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pariguayo
2006-09-21 19:56:15 UTC
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A Courageous Man Speaks Out - Hugo Chavez at the UN General Assembly

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by Stephen Lendman

September 21, 2006
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Hugo Chavez chooses his authors, political and social thinkers well,
and there's no one better than Noam Chomsky. In his dramatic and
courageous speech yesterday to the 61st UN General Assembly, Chavez
held up a copy of Chomsky's 2003 book Hegemony or Survival (which I've
read and quoted from before). In the book, Chomsky cites the work of
Ernst Mayr whom he describes as "one of the great figures of
contemporary biology." Mayr noted that beetles and bacteria have been
far more successful surviving than the human species is likely to be.
He also observed that "the average life expectancy of a species is
about 100,000 years" which is about how long ours has been around, and
he went on to wonder if we might use our "alloted time" to destroy
ourselves and much more with us. Chomsky then noted we certainly have
the means to do it, and should it happen, which he says is very
possible, we likely will become the only species ever to have made
itself extinct.

Hugo Chavez also could have explained what Chomsky had to say about
this possibility in his most recent book, Failed States, in which he
addresses the three issues he feels are most important - "the threat of
nuclear war, environmental disaster, and the fact that the government
of the world's only superpower is acting in ways that increase the
likelihood of (causing) these catastrophes." Chomsky goes even further
raising a fourth issue that the "American system" is in danger of
losing its "historic values (of) equality, liberty and meaningful
democracy (because of the course it's on)."

Reflecting the thinking and spirit of Noam Chomsky, Hugo Chavez
delivered an impassioned speech yesterday to the assembled delegates
who came to hear him. It's one likely to be favorably remembered many
years from now. At its end, the delegates showed their appreciation and
support by giving him a standing ovation (the longest one of all the
leaders addressing the Assembly) in contrast to the cool and polite
reception given George Bush the previous day who chose not to attend to
hear the Venezuelan leader. Too bad he didn't as he might have learned
from it if he stayed alert and paid attention. Citing the language in
Chomsky's book in his hand, Chavez said: "The hegemonistic pretentions
of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the
human species (and) We appeal to the people of the United States and
the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our
head." He went on to explain that earlier the President of the US
attended an Organization of American States meeting and proposed a
NAFTA-type trade agreement in both regions that is the "fundamental
cause of the great evils and the great tragedies currently suffered by
our people. Neoliberal capitalism, the Washington Consensus....has
generated....a high degree of misery, inequality and infinite tragedy
for all the peoples on (this) continent."

Hugo Chavez called George Bush "the devil" several times and said he
came here yesterday and "from this rostrum (talked) as if he owned the
world." He denounced the President's talk, said he's responsible for
all conflict in the Middle East, and that those opposed to these
policies are resisting his imperial model of domination. Chavez
predicted the US empire will fall, said "What we need now more than
ever....is a new international order," and that he wants to see a
reinvented UN be part of what can help achieve it. He said the UN under
its current rules "does not work" and must be changed to bring more
democracy to the organization. He called for the "foundation of a new
United Nations" and proposed four fundamental changes including the
"need to....suppress....the veto in the decisions taken by the Security
Council (because) that elitist trace is incompatible with democracy,
incompatible with the principles of equality and democracy." He also
called for expanding the Security Council to include developing nations
as permanent members and wants to strengthen the role of the Secretary
General. He stressed that today the UN body is "worthless" and needs to
be "refounded."

Hugo Chavez is dedicated to the principles and spirit of the Bolivarian
Revolution he gave the people of Venezuela and wants to spread it to
the developing world as a counter-force to the US model of global
dominance of the developed North over the less-developed South with the
US as hegemon-in-chief. He called on leaders from the developing world
to unite and resist to build a new world model based on social equity
and justice. Judging by the reception Chavez got yesterday, it looks
like he made some progress toward that goal, especially in Latin
America that's become an incubator of resistance against the unipolar
world the US is beginning to lose its grip on and in support of the
multi-polar one Hugo Chavez wants to help create.

Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at
***@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at
www.sjlendman.blogspot.com
wastecontroller
2006-09-21 21:44:35 UTC
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First of all. if he would change his underware once in a while, he would get
rid of that sulphur stink. Also, as a Catholic, he ridiculed his religion
and the religion of his fellow citizens when he made the sign of the cross.
He looked like a big fat arrogant baffoon to me!

Do the people of Argentina really feel proud of a foolish looking leader
such as Chavez? I would be humiliated to say I was an Argentinian!

"pariguayo" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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|A Courageous Man Speaks Out - Hugo Chavez at the UN General Assembly
|
|
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=LEN20060921&articleId=3298
|
| by Stephen Lendman
|
| September 21, 2006
| GlobalResearch.ca
|
| Email this article to a friend
| Print this article
|
| Hugo Chavez chooses his authors, political and social thinkers well,
| and there's no one better than Noam Chomsky. In his dramatic and
| courageous speech yesterday to the 61st UN General Assembly, Chavez
| held up a copy of Chomsky's 2003 book Hegemony or Survival (which I've
| read and quoted from before). In the book, Chomsky cites the work of
| Ernst Mayr whom he describes as "one of the great figures of
| contemporary biology." Mayr noted that beetles and bacteria have been
| far more successful surviving than the human species is likely to be.
| He also observed that "the average life expectancy of a species is
| about 100,000 years" which is about how long ours has been around, and
| he went on to wonder if we might use our "alloted time" to destroy
| ourselves and much more with us. Chomsky then noted we certainly have
| the means to do it, and should it happen, which he says is very
| possible, we likely will become the only species ever to have made
| itself extinct.
|
| Hugo Chavez also could have explained what Chomsky had to say about
| this possibility in his most recent book, Failed States, in which he
| addresses the three issues he feels are most important - "the threat of
| nuclear war, environmental disaster, and the fact that the government
| of the world's only superpower is acting in ways that increase the
| likelihood of (causing) these catastrophes." Chomsky goes even further
| raising a fourth issue that the "American system" is in danger of
| losing its "historic values (of) equality, liberty and meaningful
| democracy (because of the course it's on)."
|
| Reflecting the thinking and spirit of Noam Chomsky, Hugo Chavez
| delivered an impassioned speech yesterday to the assembled delegates
| who came to hear him. It's one likely to be favorably remembered many
| years from now. At its end, the delegates showed their appreciation and
| support by giving him a standing ovation (the longest one of all the
| leaders addressing the Assembly) in contrast to the cool and polite
| reception given George Bush the previous day who chose not to attend to
| hear the Venezuelan leader. Too bad he didn't as he might have learned
| from it if he stayed alert and paid attention. Citing the language in
| Chomsky's book in his hand, Chavez said: "The hegemonistic pretentions
| of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the
| human species (and) We appeal to the people of the United States and
| the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our
| head." He went on to explain that earlier the President of the US
| attended an Organization of American States meeting and proposed a
| NAFTA-type trade agreement in both regions that is the "fundamental
| cause of the great evils and the great tragedies currently suffered by
| our people. Neoliberal capitalism, the Washington Consensus....has
| generated....a high degree of misery, inequality and infinite tragedy
| for all the peoples on (this) continent."
|
| Hugo Chavez called George Bush "the devil" several times and said he
| came here yesterday and "from this rostrum (talked) as if he owned the
| world." He denounced the President's talk, said he's responsible for
| all conflict in the Middle East, and that those opposed to these
| policies are resisting his imperial model of domination. Chavez
| predicted the US empire will fall, said "What we need now more than
| ever....is a new international order," and that he wants to see a
| reinvented UN be part of what can help achieve it. He said the UN under
| its current rules "does not work" and must be changed to bring more
| democracy to the organization. He called for the "foundation of a new
| United Nations" and proposed four fundamental changes including the
| "need to....suppress....the veto in the decisions taken by the Security
| Council (because) that elitist trace is incompatible with democracy,
| incompatible with the principles of equality and democracy." He also
| called for expanding the Security Council to include developing nations
| as permanent members and wants to strengthen the role of the Secretary
| General. He stressed that today the UN body is "worthless" and needs to
| be "refounded."
|
| Hugo Chavez is dedicated to the principles and spirit of the Bolivarian
| Revolution he gave the people of Venezuela and wants to spread it to
| the developing world as a counter-force to the US model of global
| dominance of the developed North over the less-developed South with the
| US as hegemon-in-chief. He called on leaders from the developing world
| to unite and resist to build a new world model based on social equity
| and justice. Judging by the reception Chavez got yesterday, it looks
| like he made some progress toward that goal, especially in Latin
| America that's become an incubator of resistance against the unipolar
| world the US is beginning to lose its grip on and in support of the
| multi-polar one Hugo Chavez wants to help create.
|
| Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at
| ***@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at
| www.sjlendman.blogspot.com
|
pariguayo
2006-09-21 21:55:01 UTC
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como siempre algunos de ustedes lucen muy bien informados...

es contagiosa la estupidez de bush?

wastecontroller wrote:
> First of all. if he would change his underware once in a while, he would get
> rid of that sulphur stink. Also, as a Catholic, he ridiculed his religion
> and the religion of his fellow citizens when he made the sign of the cross.
> He looked like a big fat arrogant baffoon to me!
>
> Do the people of Argentina really feel proud of a foolish looking leader
> such as Chavez? I would be humiliated to say I was an Argentinian!
>
> "pariguayo" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:***@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> |A Courageous Man Speaks Out - Hugo Chavez at the UN General Assembly
> |
> |
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=LEN20060921&articleId=3298
> |
> | by Stephen Lendman
> |
> | September 21, 2006
> | GlobalResearch.ca
> |
> | Email this article to a friend
> | Print this article
> |
> | Hugo Chavez chooses his authors, political and social thinkers well,
> | and there's no one better than Noam Chomsky. In his dramatic and
> | courageous speech yesterday to the 61st UN General Assembly, Chavez
> | held up a copy of Chomsky's 2003 book Hegemony or Survival (which I've
> | read and quoted from before). In the book, Chomsky cites the work of
> | Ernst Mayr whom he describes as "one of the great figures of
> | contemporary biology." Mayr noted that beetles and bacteria have been
> | far more successful surviving than the human species is likely to be.
> | He also observed that "the average life expectancy of a species is
> | about 100,000 years" which is about how long ours has been around, and
> | he went on to wonder if we might use our "alloted time" to destroy
> | ourselves and much more with us. Chomsky then noted we certainly have
> | the means to do it, and should it happen, which he says is very
> | possible, we likely will become the only species ever to have made
> | itself extinct.
> |
> | Hugo Chavez also could have explained what Chomsky had to say about
> | this possibility in his most recent book, Failed States, in which he
> | addresses the three issues he feels are most important - "the threat of
> | nuclear war, environmental disaster, and the fact that the government
> | of the world's only superpower is acting in ways that increase the
> | likelihood of (causing) these catastrophes." Chomsky goes even further
> | raising a fourth issue that the "American system" is in danger of
> | losing its "historic values (of) equality, liberty and meaningful
> | democracy (because of the course it's on)."
> |
> | Reflecting the thinking and spirit of Noam Chomsky, Hugo Chavez
> | delivered an impassioned speech yesterday to the assembled delegates
> | who came to hear him. It's one likely to be favorably remembered many
> | years from now. At its end, the delegates showed their appreciation and
> | support by giving him a standing ovation (the longest one of all the
> | leaders addressing the Assembly) in contrast to the cool and polite
> | reception given George Bush the previous day who chose not to attend to
> | hear the Venezuelan leader. Too bad he didn't as he might have learned
> | from it if he stayed alert and paid attention. Citing the language in
> | Chomsky's book in his hand, Chavez said: "The hegemonistic pretentions
> | of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the
> | human species (and) We appeal to the people of the United States and
> | the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our
> | head." He went on to explain that earlier the President of the US
> | attended an Organization of American States meeting and proposed a
> | NAFTA-type trade agreement in both regions that is the "fundamental
> | cause of the great evils and the great tragedies currently suffered by
> | our people. Neoliberal capitalism, the Washington Consensus....has
> | generated....a high degree of misery, inequality and infinite tragedy
> | for all the peoples on (this) continent."
> |
> | Hugo Chavez called George Bush "the devil" several times and said he
> | came here yesterday and "from this rostrum (talked) as if he owned the
> | world." He denounced the President's talk, said he's responsible for
> | all conflict in the Middle East, and that those opposed to these
> | policies are resisting his imperial model of domination. Chavez
> | predicted the US empire will fall, said "What we need now more than
> | ever....is a new international order," and that he wants to see a
> | reinvented UN be part of what can help achieve it. He said the UN under
> | its current rules "does not work" and must be changed to bring more
> | democracy to the organization. He called for the "foundation of a new
> | United Nations" and proposed four fundamental changes including the
> | "need to....suppress....the veto in the decisions taken by the Security
> | Council (because) that elitist trace is incompatible with democracy,
> | incompatible with the principles of equality and democracy." He also
> | called for expanding the Security Council to include developing nations
> | as permanent members and wants to strengthen the role of the Secretary
> | General. He stressed that today the UN body is "worthless" and needs to
> | be "refounded."
> |
> | Hugo Chavez is dedicated to the principles and spirit of the Bolivarian
> | Revolution he gave the people of Venezuela and wants to spread it to
> | the developing world as a counter-force to the US model of global
> | dominance of the developed North over the less-developed South with the
> | US as hegemon-in-chief. He called on leaders from the developing world
> | to unite and resist to build a new world model based on social equity
> | and justice. Judging by the reception Chavez got yesterday, it looks
> | like he made some progress toward that goal, especially in Latin
> | America that's become an incubator of resistance against the unipolar
> | world the US is beginning to lose its grip on and in support of the
> | multi-polar one Hugo Chavez wants to help create.
> |
> | Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at
> | ***@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at
> | www.sjlendman.blogspot.com
> |
VivaChavez
2006-09-22 05:41:43 UTC
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Dios los cria y ellos se juntan.... :))))

Y si no me crees mira al tal Rosales... a su lado Bush parece casi
inteligente.

pariguayo wrote:
> como siempre algunos de ustedes lucen muy bien informados...
>
> es contagiosa la estupidez de bush?
Aplasta_Farsantes
2006-09-21 21:59:34 UTC
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wastecontroller wrote:
> First of all. if he would change his underware once in a while, he would get
> rid of that sulphur stink. Also, as a Catholic, he ridiculed his religion
> and the religion of his fellow citizens when he made the sign of the cross.
> He looked like a big fat arrogant baffoon to me!
>
> Do the people of Argentina really feel proud of a foolish looking leader
> such as Chavez? I would be humiliated to say I was an Argentinian!

First of all President Chavez is not catholic, he has described himself
as evangelical christian, he is not from Argentina and that alone makes
you a dumb asshole.
wastecontroller
2006-09-22 03:43:49 UTC
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"Aplasta_Farsantes" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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|
| wastecontroller wrote:
| > First of all. if he would change his underware once in a while, he would
get
| > rid of that sulphur stink. Also, as a Catholic, he ridiculed his
religion
| > and the religion of his fellow citizens when he made the sign of the
cross.
| > He looked like a big fat arrogant baffoon to me!
| >
| > Do the people of Argentina really feel proud of a foolish looking
leader
| > such as Chavez? I would be humiliated to say I was an Argentinian!
|
| First of all President Chavez is not catholic, he has described himself
| as evangelical christian, he is not from Argentina and that alone makes
| you a dumb asshole.
|
So, that makes him more of a creep for using a symbol that he doesn't even
believe in.Secondly, since a non-believer uses another religion's symbol he
is more of a bafoon than I thought.
Also, he probably was born and baptized a catholic and describes himself as
a evangelical christian. So that would make you a braindead zombie...like
the arrogant baffoon Chavez.
Boy, did he make himself look like an arsehole....and he represents
argentina...Poor argentinians..makes them look like morons.
TORREBLANCA®
2006-09-22 05:18:12 UTC
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wastecontroller ha escrito:

> "Aplasta_Farsantes" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:***@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> |
> | wastecontroller wrote:
> | > First of all. if he would change his underware once in a while, he would
> get
> | > rid of that sulphur stink. Also, as a Catholic, he ridiculed his
> religion
> | > and the religion of his fellow citizens when he made the sign of the
> cross.
> | > He looked like a big fat arrogant baffoon to me!
> | >
> | > Do the people of Argentina really feel proud of a foolish looking
> leader
> | > such as Chavez? I would be humiliated to say I was an Argentinian!
> |
> | First of all President Chavez is not catholic, he has described himself
> | as evangelical christian, he is not from Argentina and that alone makes
> | you a dumb asshole.
> |
> So, that makes him more of a creep for using a symbol that he doesn't even
> believe in.Secondly, since a non-believer uses another religion's symbol he
> is more of a bafoon than I thought.
> Also, he probably was born and baptized a catholic and describes himself as
> a evangelical christian. So that would make you a braindead zombie...like
> the arrogant baffoon Chavez.
> Boy, did he make himself look like an arsehole....and he represents
> argentina...Poor argentinians..makes them look like morons.

mierda, la plasta farsante, cada vez que ud abre la boca es para meter
la pata. que buena respuesta le acaban de dar. comase OTRO mojon.... y
bien grande !!!!!
wastecontroller
2006-09-22 14:14:36 UTC
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"TORREBLANCA®" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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|
| wastecontroller ha escrito:
|
| > "Aplasta_Farsantes" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:***@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
| > |
| > | wastecontroller wrote:
| > | > First of all. if he would change his underware once in a while, he
would
| > get
| > | > rid of that sulphur stink. Also, as a Catholic, he ridiculed his
| > religion
| > | > and the religion of his fellow citizens when he made the sign of the
| > cross.
| > | > He looked like a big fat arrogant baffoon to me!
| > | >
| > | > Do the people of Argentina really feel proud of a foolish looking
| > leader
| > | > such as Chavez? I would be humiliated to say I was an Argentinian!
| > |
| > | First of all President Chavez is not catholic, he has described
himself
| > | as evangelical christian, he is not from Argentina and that alone
makes
| > | you a dumb asshole.
| > |
| > So, that makes him more of a creep for using a symbol that he doesn't
even
| > believe in.Secondly, since a non-believer uses another religion's
symbol he
| > is more of a bafoon than I thought.
| > Also, he probably was born and baptized a catholic and describes himself
as
| > a evangelical christian. So that would make you a braindead
zombie...like
| > the arrogant baffoon Chavez.
| > Boy, did he make himself look like an arsehole....and he represents
| > argentina...Poor argentinians..makes them look like morons.
|
| mierda, la plasta farsante, cada vez que ud abre la boca es para meter
| la pata. que buena respuesta le acaban de dar. comase OTRO mojon.... y
| bien grande !!!!!
|
Let's face it. the guy is an embarassement! Everyone sees what an
uneducated fool he is. If he could get the 'mierda' off of his ass, he
wouldn't smell so much sulphur.

What an ass hole...He is an embarrasment to every Venezuelan...
pariguayo
2006-09-22 15:07:01 UTC
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bush es una vergüenza y un asco...


wastecontroller wrote:
> "TORREBLANCA®" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:***@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> |
> | wastecontroller ha escrito:
> |
> | > "Aplasta_Farsantes" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> | > news:***@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> | > |
> | > | wastecontroller wrote:
> | > | > First of all. if he would change his underware once in a while, he
> would
> | > get
> | > | > rid of that sulphur stink. Also, as a Catholic, he ridiculed his
> | > religion
> | > | > and the religion of his fellow citizens when he made the sign of the
> | > cross.
> | > | > He looked like a big fat arrogant baffoon to me!
> | > | >
> | > | > Do the people of Argentina really feel proud of a foolish looking
> | > leader
> | > | > such as Chavez? I would be humiliated to say I was an Argentinian!
> | > |
> | > | First of all President Chavez is not catholic, he has described
> himself
> | > | as evangelical christian, he is not from Argentina and that alone
> makes
> | > | you a dumb asshole.
> | > |
> | > So, that makes him more of a creep for using a symbol that he doesn't
> even
> | > believe in.Secondly, since a non-believer uses another religion's
> symbol he
> | > is more of a bafoon than I thought.
> | > Also, he probably was born and baptized a catholic and describes himself
> as
> | > a evangelical christian. So that would make you a braindead
> zombie...like
> | > the arrogant baffoon Chavez.
> | > Boy, did he make himself look like an arsehole....and he represents
> | > argentina...Poor argentinians..makes them look like morons.
> |
> | mierda, la plasta farsante, cada vez que ud abre la boca es para meter
> | la pata. que buena respuesta le acaban de dar. comase OTRO mojon.... y
> | bien grande !!!!!
> |
> Let's face it. the guy is an embarassement! Everyone sees what an
> uneducated fool he is. If he could get the 'mierda' off of his ass, he
> wouldn't smell so much sulphur.
>
> What an ass hole...He is an embarrasment to every Venezuelan...
krp
2006-09-22 19:55:09 UTC
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"pariguayo" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>bush es una vergüenza y un asco...

But less that Hugo or Raul.
krp
2006-09-22 19:54:22 UTC
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> | > | > First of all. if he would change his underware once in a while, he
> would get
> | > | > rid of that sulphur stink. Also, as a Catholic, he ridiculed his
> religion
> | > | > and the religion of his fellow citizens when he made the sign of
> the cross.
> | > | > He looked like a big fat arrogant baffoon to me!

> | > | > Do the people of Argentina really feel proud of a foolish
> looking leader
> | > | > such as Chavez? I would be humiliated to say I was an Argentinian!

> | > | First of all President Chavez is not catholic, he has described
> himself
> | > | as evangelical christian, he is not from Argentina and that alone
> makes
> | > | you a dumb asshole.

> | > So, that makes him more of a creep for using a symbol that he doesn't
> even
> | > believe in.Secondly, since a non-believer uses another religion's
> symbol he
> | > is more of a bafoon than I thought.

> | > Also, he probably was born and baptized a catholic and describes
> himself as
> | > a evangelical christian. So that would make you a braindead
> zombie...like
> | > the arrogant baffoon Chavez.

> | > Boy, did he make himself look like an arsehole....and he represents
> | > argentina...Poor argentinians..makes them look like morons.

> | mierda, la plasta farsante, cada vez que ud abre la boca es para meter
> | la pata. que buena respuesta le acaban de dar. comase OTRO mojon.... y
> | bien grande !!!!!

> Let's face it. the guy is an embarassement! Everyone sees what an
> uneducated fool he is. If he could get the 'mierda' off of his ass, he
> wouldn't smell so much sulphur.

> What an ass hole...He is an embarrasment to every Venezuelan...



Ever see him wear his SASH? With all his medals. He was a paratrooper
you know. He got a medal for ALL of his jumps, including the special one the
one time the airplane was actually in the air when he jumped. He has 70 for
all the times he jumped off bar stools in Caracas saloons. He has a medal of
valor for the time he jumped off that hooker in the bordello.

You shouldn't pick on poor Hugo - pick on the IDIOTS who have voted for
him. Billions of dollars a month in revenue from the oil sales, and what you
Venezuela's poor see? A few dirt poor Cuban doctors! WOW! HUGO makes enough
off oil sales to feed ALL the people of Venezuela 4 inch thick steaks for
every meal, do they see it? Not to mention enough money to have built
EVERYONE in Venezuela a 12 bedroom model home.. Do they have it? Oh a few
crappy APARTMENTS.. WOW! The people of Venezuela are being RAPED the same
way the Cuban people have been raped with false promises.
wastecontroller
2006-09-24 22:10:46 UTC
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Hugo seems to smell sulphur everywhere he goes..
Hugo wound't dare say that about the muslims..Imagine how insane those
lunatic muslims would get if someone mention that madmud smells like
sulphur.Hugo should eat a few less banannnas and wash his ass better if he
has a smell of sulphur following him around.


" krp" <***@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ObXQg.75$***@trnddc03...
|
| "wastecontroller" <***@kontrol.cOm> wrote in message
| news:JcSQg.4936$***@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net...
|
|
| > | > | > First of all. if he would change his underware once in a while,
he
| > would get
| > | > | > rid of that sulphur stink. Also, as a Catholic, he ridiculed his
| > religion
| > | > | > and the religion of his fellow citizens when he made the sign of
| > the cross.
| > | > | > He looked like a big fat arrogant baffoon to me!
|
| > | > | > Do the people of Argentina really feel proud of a foolish
| > looking leader
| > | > | > such as Chavez? I would be humiliated to say I was an
Argentinian!
|
| > | > | First of all President Chavez is not catholic, he has described
| > himself
| > | > | as evangelical christian, he is not from Argentina and that alone
| > makes
| > | > | you a dumb asshole.
|
| > | > So, that makes him more of a creep for using a symbol that he
doesn't
| > even
| > | > believe in.Secondly, since a non-believer uses another religion's
| > symbol he
| > | > is more of a bafoon than I thought.
|
| > | > Also, he probably was born and baptized a catholic and describes
| > himself as
| > | > a evangelical christian. So that would make you a braindead
| > zombie...like
| > | > the arrogant baffoon Chavez.
|
| > | > Boy, did he make himself look like an arsehole....and he represents
| > | > argentina...Poor argentinians..makes them look like morons.
|
| > | mierda, la plasta farsante, cada vez que ud abre la boca es para meter
| > | la pata. que buena respuesta le acaban de dar. comase OTRO mojon.... y
| > | bien grande !!!!!
|
| > Let's face it. the guy is an embarassement! Everyone sees what an
| > uneducated fool he is. If he could get the 'mierda' off of his ass, he
| > wouldn't smell so much sulphur.
|
| > What an ass hole...He is an embarrasment to every Venezuelan...
|
|
|
| Ever see him wear his SASH? With all his medals. He was a paratrooper
| you know. He got a medal for ALL of his jumps, including the special one
the
| one time the airplane was actually in the air when he jumped. He has 70
for
| all the times he jumped off bar stools in Caracas saloons. He has a medal
of
| valor for the time he jumped off that hooker in the bordello.
|
| You shouldn't pick on poor Hugo - pick on the IDIOTS who have voted for
| him. Billions of dollars a month in revenue from the oil sales, and what
you
| Venezuela's poor see? A few dirt poor Cuban doctors! WOW! HUGO makes
enough
| off oil sales to feed ALL the people of Venezuela 4 inch thick steaks for
| every meal, do they see it? Not to mention enough money to have built
| EVERYONE in Venezuela a 12 bedroom model home.. Do they have it? Oh a few
| crappy APARTMENTS.. WOW! The people of Venezuela are being RAPED the same
| way the Cuban people have been raped with false promises.
|
|
|
VivaChavez
2006-09-22 16:26:55 UTC
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Sin comentarios... :))))


wastecontroller wrote:

> So, that makes him more of a creep for using a symbol that he doesn't even
> believe in.Secondly, since a non-believer uses another religion's symbol he
> is more of a bafoon than I thought.
> Also, he probably was born and baptized a catholic and describes himself as
> a evangelical christian. So that would make you a braindead zombie...like
> the arrogant baffoon Chavez.
> Boy, did he make himself look like an arsehole....and he represents
> argentina...Poor argentinians..makes them look like morons.
Aplasta_Farsantes
2006-09-22 17:39:19 UTC
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wastecontroller wrote:

> ....and he represents
> argentina...Poor argentinians..makes them look like morons.

Sir, you are a dumb ass... ji ji ji... este es mas bruto que la Ramera
Merengue.
Pichurra
2006-09-22 21:48:05 UTC
Permalink
On 9/21/06 11:43 PM, in article
nZIQg.4911$***@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net, "wastecontroller"
<***@kontrol.cOm> wrote:

>
> "Aplasta_Farsantes" <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:***@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> |
> | wastecontroller wrote:
> | > First of all. if he would change his underware once in a while, he would
> get
> | > rid of that sulphur stink. Also, as a Catholic, he ridiculed his
> religion
> | > and the religion of his fellow citizens when he made the sign of the
> cross.
> | > He looked like a big fat arrogant baffoon to me!
> | >
> | > Do the people of Argentina really feel proud of a foolish looking
> leader
> | > such as Chavez? I would be humiliated to say I was an Argentinian!
> |
> | First of all President Chavez is not catholic, he has described himself
> | as evangelical christian, he is not from Argentina and that alone makes
> | you a dumb asshole.
> |
> So, that makes him more of a creep for using a symbol that he doesn't even
> believe in.Secondly, since a non-believer uses another religion's symbol he
> is more of a bafoon than I thought.
> Also, he probably was born and baptized a catholic and describes himself as
> a evangelical christian. So that would make you a braindead zombie...like
> the arrogant baffoon Chavez.
> Boy, did he make himself look like an arsehole....and he represents
> argentina...Poor argentinians..makes them look like morons.
>
>
>
He does not represents argentinians, he only represents Fidel Castro!
VivaChavez
2006-09-22 22:33:23 UTC
Permalink
Viva Chavez!!
Viva La Unión Latinoamericana !!!
Viva lel nuevo Presidente de la las Naciones No Alineadas: Don Fidel
Castro!!
wastecontroller
2006-09-23 02:19:32 UTC
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The worse people in your countries are your own leaders.The vast majority of
your people live in poverty...And instaed of working to change this you so
as to leave a better life for future generations...you look to outside
forces such as the US to blame..
Get off your ass and go and work to better the future for your
children.Chavez will only lead you into the same shit as Castro.

"VivaChavez" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:***@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

Viva Chavez!!
Viva La Unión Latinoamericana !!!
Viva lel nuevo Presidente de la las Naciones No Alineadas: Don Fidel
Castro!!
krp
2006-09-23 14:09:47 UTC
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"wastecontroller" <***@kontrol.cOm> wrote in message
news:lQ0Rg.5000$***@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net...
>
> The worse people in your countries are your own leaders.The vast majority
> of
> your people live in poverty...And instaed of working to change this you so
> as to leave a better life for future generations...you look to outside
> forces such as the US to blame..
> Get off your ass and go and work to better the future for your
> children.Chavez will only lead you into the same shit as Castro.

Well here is something for the people in Venezuela to chew on. With
literally BILLIONS of dollars of profit from oil sales, where is it? Do the
poor people of Venezuela live in 500 bedroom homes? Have new Mercedes to
dive to the countryside for their years long vacations? Remember "THE
REVOLUTION GIVES YOU EVERYTHING!" VIVA LA REVOLUTION! How are your steaks
that you are eating every meal? The new Brooks Brothers $9,000 suits you are
wearing? The $900 a pair Bruno Mali shoes? The new 80 inch wide screen TV's
you have?

No - people of Venezuela you don't have any of those things. But you are
getting a SHITLOAD of new MiG fighters and bombers!! JUST what you need!
Hey, here's an idea, let's START A WAR and blame it on the GRINGOS! The
IMPERLISTAS! THE YANKEES............ That is certain to make your life the
best ever!!
VivaChavez
2006-09-23 16:19:38 UTC
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Krp,

Then what are you gringos doing in the Middle East and why are you
arming Colombia to the teeth? And why is your CIA intervening in the
affairs of foreign countries?

If you don't want to get blamed for what your government is doing to
other countries...ask them to stay home.
wastecontroller
2006-09-23 17:15:27 UTC
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The reason is that 'you Greenholes' are smuggling drugs into the US.
There are crys for the US to intervene in Sudan where muslims are murdering
the entire christian population. There were crys for the US to intervene in
Rwanda...And if they start slaughtering the people of Venezuela you'll be
the first to ask the US to intervene.
Why is Venezuela going with Iran to medle in the problem of Iranian
nuclear weapons.
Do you really think it would be good for the world if Iran9extreme lunatical
muslims to have nuclear weapons.
Is it not better for Iran to use it's wealth to better it's future for its
children? becaus eif Iran gets a few weapons and uses them, the US will
(WILL) launch fifty nukes with 50 warheads at them and wipe them from planet
earth.
The moral is...Don't attack the US... they won't bother you.



"VivaChavez" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:***@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Krp,
|
| Then what are you gringos doing in the Middle East and why are you
| arming Colombia to the teeth? And why is your CIA intervening in the
| affairs of foreign countries?
|
| If you don't want to get blamed for what your government is doing to
| other countries...ask them to stay home.
|
VivaChavez
2006-09-24 02:10:12 UTC
Permalink
Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis
and Butthead?
A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
krp
2006-09-24 12:31:56 UTC
Permalink
"VivaChavez" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:***@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

> Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis and
> Butthead?
> A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...

Have you noticed that your Hero worship of a man who has had to INVENT
"battle ribbons" for his SASH to mind fukk his people into thinking he is
some battle hardened war hero? Like awarding HIMSELF all kinds of ribbons as
a paratrooper for all his jumps. Including the ONE special one for the ONE
TIME the plane actually left the ground! No - I'd say the Butthead award
goes to the imbecile who is impressed by such transparent bullshit and
idolizes it.
Terri
2006-09-24 14:38:51 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, " krp" <***@verizon.net> wrote:
>"VivaChavez" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:***@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis and
>> Butthead?
>> A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
>
> Have you noticed that your Hero worship of a man who has had to INVENT
>"battle ribbons" for his SASH to mind fukk his people into thinking he is

LOL--

And how does this differ from you having to *invent* college degrees to
dupe people into using your consulting services?
www.aboutkenpangborn.com/k_pangborn.pdf

Terri


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krp
2006-09-24 21:08:02 UTC
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TERRI KARCHER MADISON MOORE'S ASSISTANT STALKER
"Terri" <Anonymous-***@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
news:***@anonymous...

>>> Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis and
>>> Butthead?
>>> A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
>>
>> Have you noticed that your Hero worship of a man who has had to INVENT
>>"battle ribbons" for his SASH to mind fukk his people into thinking he is
>
> LOL--
>
> And how does this differ from you having to *invent* college degrees to
> dupe people into using your consulting services?

Terri you are a PATHETIC LIAR
t***@cotse.net
2006-09-25 03:21:42 UTC
Permalink
krp wrote:
KENNETH R. PANGBORN INSANE STALKER
> "Terri" <Anonymous-***@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
> news:***@anonymous...
>
> >>> Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis and
> >>> Butthead?
> >>> A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
> >>
> >> Have you noticed that your Hero worship of a man who has had to INVENT
> >>"battle ribbons" for his SASH to mind fukk his people into thinking he is
> >
> > LOL--
> >
> > And how does this differ from you having to *invent* college degrees to
> > dupe people into using your consulting services?
>
Terri you are a PATHETIC LIAR

No, not really Kenny. You see, Megan told us that you had fake
degrees but she couldn't remember the name of the place where you got
it. Then she sent an email explaining what she *thought* was the name
of the diploma mill and we searched the web using names that sounded
like what she suggested until we ran across your CV. You are an
uneducated, lying, fraud, Kenny.

KENNETH R. PANGBORN of the A-Team or KRP CONSULTING has fucked
over
so many people, pissed off so many dads, burned so many bridges that it
is only a matter of time before this recent discovery gets its just
reward. The wheels of justice are already in motion. "Fraud" is a bad,
bad work. Pangborn is already bankrupt, the cause of failed marriage
after failed marriage, and even his daughter (so HE claims, although
she denies that he is her father) has written about how he abused her
on her blog. http://www.xanga.com/DealMeIn (She has made sure that he
doesn't have access to her telephone number or address. )

The link directly below is to Kennth R. Pangborn's curriculum vitae
that he posted on a Texas Lawyers organization group because he hoped
some fool would hire him as an expert witness. Note that he list
Shaftesbury University in London as the school that granted both his
undergraduate and graduate "degrees". This school is a sham. The
students do not attend classes. No lessons are sent out through the
mail. To get a degree, you pay a fee and they mail your fake diploma
to you.

http://www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/bios/k_pangborn.pdf#search=%22ken...

Look up Shaftesbury University in Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaftesbury_University
See where Kenny's so called "degrees" came from? Shaftesbury
University.

Shaftesbury University is part of the "University Degree Program
(UDP), an unaccredited consortium of diploma mills run by Jason and
Caroline Abraham (alias: Yaakov and Chaya Rochel). In 2004, The Houston
Chronicle noted UDP is the "granddaddy" of diploma mill operations and
started operating in the mid-1990s.[1]] In fact, "after an
investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, its owners turned over
$100,000 in profits and promised to stay out of the degree-selling
business." [2] However, "the e-mailing hasn't stopped. The call centers
haven't closed. And the money hasn't stopped flowing. If anything, the
business has grown."

The Chronicle revealed one of the two owners is "a mother of four who
has a Ph.D. in mathematics and lives in Brooklyn, NY." The paper
explained day-to-day operations, which "sold more than 30,000 degrees
and may have earned $50-million or perhaps in excess of $100-million"
with its "call centers in Israel and Romania."[3]"

Under that information is a list of schools that falls into this
category. Scroll down to Shaftesbury and clink the link that is
beside the name of the school and that will take you to the following
Pittsburgh Tribune review article.

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/connellsville/s_328132....

[Note the line in the article that says, "he obtained his degree from
Shaftesbury University, in the United Kingdom, in 1986. However, the
state's investigation revealed that, not only did Shal's university
diploma contain two misspellings, but the institution is not
recognized, or accredited, in the United Kingdom or the U.S.

And while the school claims to be accredited by the European Committee
for Home and Online Education, that institution also is not recognized
in the United Kingdom or the U.S. "]

Children's counselor charged with fraud

Subscribe
By Marsha Forys
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, April 26, 2005

A Connellsville man is accused of working as a children's mental health
counselor to state medical assistance recipients for almost three years
without having the proper qualifications.

Leon Edward Shal Jr., 60, of 420 S. Eighth St., faces charges of
complicity, welfare fraud, theft by deception and insurance fraud,
filed by the state Attorney General's Office after a yearlong
investigation.

Shal was a member of the therapeutic support staff at Connellsville
Psychological and Counseling Services, 41 S. Pittsburgh St., from April
2000 to February 2003, according to court documents.

During that time, he allegedly counseled numerous young patients -- all
of whom were clients of the state Department of Public Welfare, Medical
Assistance Program, and he billed the state for his services through
Richard W. Pritts, his employer, and Value Behavioral Health of
Pennsylvania Inc., a health maintenance organization contracted by
Fayette County.

The type of services allegedly offered by Shal required that the
provider have an education that includes, at minimum, a bachelor's
degree. Shal allegedly told his employer he obtained his degree from
Shaftesbury University, in the United Kingdom, in 1986.

However, the state's investigation revealed that, not only did Shal's
university diploma contain two misspellings, but the institution is not
recognized, or accredited, in the United Kingdom or the U.S.

And while the school claims to be accredited by the European Committee
for Home and Online Education, that institution also is not recognized
in the United Kingdom or the U.S.

The state further claims that Shal, when counseling medical assistance
patients, was required by state law to do so one-on-one, yet billing
information obtained by investigators showed that he had on numerous
occasions billed the state for treating two or more patients at the
same time, according to court documents.

The state's investigation allegedly found that Value Behavioral Health
had paid Connellsville Counseling and Psychological Services almost
$150,000 for therapy services allegedly rendered by Shal during the
three years he worked at the clinic.

Shal was arraigned before Magisterial District Judge Ronald Haggerty
Sr., of Connellsville, and remains free on $20,000 unsecured bond. A
preliminary hearing has been set for June 2 before Haggerty.

Marsha Forys can be reached at ***@tribweb.com or 724-626-3582.
krp
2006-09-25 10:48:53 UTC
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DAVID MOORE CHICAGO'S INSANE INTERNET STALKER
<***@cotse.net> wrote in message
news:***@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
>
> No, not really Kenny. You see, Megan told us>

Davey Megan told you NOTHING!!!! NOTHING!! You are merely hallucinating
again.
t***@cotse.net
2006-09-25 15:19:53 UTC
Permalink
krp wrote:
KENNETH R. PANGBORN, PALM HARBOR'S INSANE INTERNET STALKER
> <***@cotse.net> wrote in message
> news:***@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > No, not really Kenny. You see, Megan told us>
>
Davey Megan told you NOTHING!!!! NOTHING!! You are merely
hallucinating again.

Another pathetic lie from the self-proclaimed "child psychologist,"
"legal exdpert," "author," and "trail consultant." By any name, he's
unworthy of belief on any subject, especially fatherhood. Megan won't
have contact with him yet he continues to harrass her mother who finds
it easier to tell Kenny what he wants to hear so she can rid herself of
the smelly turd.

Kenneth R. Pangborn, the fraud who is written about on a number of web
sites, including http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com, purchased a
completely fake college "degree" from a diploma mill and using those
fake credentials repeatedly tries to extort moneyfrom innocent people.
He is already bankrupt, the cause of failed marriage after failed
marriage, and even his daughter hates and avoids him.
The link directly below is to Kennth R. Pangborn's curriculum vitae
that he posted on a Texas Lawyers organization group because he hoped
some fool would hire him as an expert witness. Notice that he put
Shaftesbury University in London as the school that granted both his
undergraduate and graduate "degrees". This school is a sham. The
students do not attend classes. No lessons are sent out through the
mail. To get a degree, you pay a fee and they mail it to you.

http://www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/bios/k_pangborn.pdf#search=%22ken...

Look up Shaftesbury University in Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaftesbury_University
See where Kenny's so called "degrees" came from? Shaftesbury
University.

Shaftesbury University is part of the "University Degree Program
(UDP), an unaccredited consortium of diploma mills run by Jason and
Caroline Abraham (alias: Yaakov and Chaya Rochel). In 2004, The Houston
Chronicle noted UDP is the "granddaddy" of diploma mill operations and
started operating in the mid-1990s.[1]] In fact, "after an
investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, its owners turned over
$100,000 in profits and promised to stay out of the degree-selling
business." [2] However, "the e-mailing hasn't stopped. The call centers
haven't closed. And the money hasn't stopped flowing. If anything, the
business has grown."

The Chronicle revealed one of the two owners is "a mother of four who
has a Ph.D. in mathematics and lives in Brooklyn, NY." The paper
explained day-to-day operations, which "sold more than 30,000 degrees
and may have earned $50-million or perhaps in excess of $100-million"
with its "call centers in Israel and Romania."[3]"

Under that information is a list of schools that falls into this
category. Scroll down to Shaftesbury and clink the link that is
beside the name of the school and that will take you to the following
Pittsburgh Tribune review article.

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/connellsville/s_328132....

[Note the line in the article that says, "he obtained his degree from
Shaftesbury University, in the United Kingdom, in 1986. However, the
tate's investigation revealed that, not only did Shal's university
diploma contain two misspellings, but the institution is not
recognized, or accredited, in the United Kingdom or the U.S.

And while the school claims to be accredited by the European Committee
for Home and Online Education, that institution also is not recognized
in the United Kingdom or the U.S. "]

Children's counselor charged with fraud
By Marsha Forys
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, April 26, 2005

A Connellsville man is accused of working as a children's mental health
counselor to state medical assistance recipients for almost three years
without having the proper qualifications.

Leon Edward Shal Jr., 60, of 420 S. Eighth St., faces charges of
complicity, welfare fraud, theft by deception and insurance fraud,
filed by the state Attorney General's Office after a yearlong
investigation.

Shal was a member of the therapeutic support staff at Connellsville
Psychological and Counseling Services, 41 S. Pittsburgh St., from April
2000 to February 2003, according to court documents.

During that time, he allegedly counseled numerous young patients -- all
of whom were clients of the state Department of Public Welfare, Medical
Assistance Program, and he billed the state for his services through
Richard W. Pritts, his employer, and Value Behavioral Health of
Pennsylvania Inc., a health maintenance organization contracted by
Fayette County.

The type of services allegedly offered by Shal required that the
provider have an education that includes, at minimum, a bachelor's
degree. Shal allegedly told his employer he obtained his degree from
Shaftesbury University, in the United Kingdom, in 1986.

However, the state's investigation revealed that, not only did Shal's
university diploma contain two misspellings, but the institution is not
recognized, or accredited, in the United Kingdom or the U.S.

And while the school claims to be accredited by the European Committee
for Home and Online Education, that institution also is not recognized
in the United Kingdom or the U.S.

The state further claims that Shal, when counseling medical assistance
patients, was required by state law to do so one-on-one, yet billing
information obtained by investigators showed that he had on numerous
occasions billed the state for treating two or more patients at the
same time, according to court documents.

The state's investigation allegedly found that Value Behavioral Health
had paid Connellsville Counseling and Psychological Services almost
$150,000 for therapy services allegedly rendered by Shal during the
three years he worked at the clinic.

Shal was arraigned before Magisterial District Judge Ronald Haggerty
Sr., of Connellsville, and remains free on $20,000 unsecured bond. A
preliminary hearing has been set for June 2 before Haggerty.

Marsha Forys can be reached at ***@tribweb.com or 724-626-3582.
krp
2006-09-25 19:22:08 UTC
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DAVID MOORE PATHETIC LIAR
***@yahoo.comtip@cotse.net> wrote in message
news:***@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> >
>> > No, not really Kenny. You see, Megan told us>
>>
> Davey Megan told you NOTHING!!!! NOTHING!! You are merely
> hallucinating again.
>
> Another pathetic lie

The pathetic LIE is yours Moore. You invent this shit wholesale. At
least I scared you bad enough to make you stop the false police reports. You
are such a pathetic little pussy Davey.
torresD
2006-09-25 19:43:15 UTC
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4046564743329239954
Terri
2006-09-25 15:02:14 UTC
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, " krp" <***@verizon.net> wrote:
>TERRI KARCHER MADISON MOORE'S ASSISTANT STALKER
>"Terri" <Anonymous-***@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
>news:***@anonymous...
>
>>>> Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis and
>>>> Butthead?
>>>> A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
>>>
>>> Have you noticed that your Hero worship of a man who has had to INVENT
>>>"battle ribbons" for his SASH to mind fukk his people into thinking he is
>>
>> LOL--
>>
>> And how does this differ from you having to *invent* college degrees to
>> dupe people into using your consulting services?
>
>Terri you are a PATHETIC LIAR

I'm not the one who falsely claimed to have a photograph, then ran away
like a sissy when told to "put up or shut up!" So where's the pic of David
Moore and I together, bitch?

T


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krp
2006-09-25 19:51:26 UTC
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TERRI KARCHER ASSISTANT STALKER
"Terri" <Anonymous-***@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
news:***@anonymous...

>>Terri you are a PATHETIC LIAR
>
> I'm not the one who falsely claimed to have a photograph, then ran away
> like a sissy when told to "put up or shut up!" So where's the pic of
> David
> Moore and I together, bitch?

It's safely in a directory on my computer where it will stay. And I didn't
say it was of you and Davey together I said it was one you SENT your
boyfriend Moore.
Terri
2006-09-25 22:22:48 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006, " krp" <***@verizon.net> wrote:
>TERRI KARCHER ASSISTANT STALKER
>"Terri" <Anonymous-***@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
>news:***@anonymous...
>
>>>Terri you are a PATHETIC LIAR
>>
>> I'm not the one who falsely claimed to have a photograph, then ran away
>> like a sissy when told to "put up or shut up!" So where's the pic of
>> David
>> Moore and I together, bitch?
>
>It's safely in a directory on my computer where it will stay. And I didn't
>say it was of you and Davey together I said it was one you SENT your
>boyfriend Moore.

Ah, backpedaling now, are we, coward? Unsurprising.

Here's your verbatim quote:

-------
Yeah Terri I do accuse you of being involved with Moore AND have the PHOTO
to prove it there "LEGS!"
-------

You followed this up with many more boasts of having a photo of the two of
us together. Now that it's become apparent that you have no such photo,
you are of course trying to weasel your way out of being exposed as a liar.

Oh, and dumbass--*if* he were my "boyfriend" and *if* I sent a photo to
him, how would *you* have it? OOPS, didn't think that little lie through
very well, did you, dickless wonder?

Terri


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Terri
2006-09-24 14:53:53 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, " krp" <***@verizon.net> wrote:
>"VivaChavez" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:***@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis and
>> Butthead?
>> A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
>
> Have you noticed that your Hero worship of a man who has had to INVENT
>"battle ribbons" for his SASH to mind fukk his people into thinking he is

PS--where's that photo of David Moore and I together, bitch? Still too
much of a dumb fuck to figure out how to upload it?

Terri


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Terri
2006-09-24 15:00:32 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, " krp" <***@verizon.net> wrote:
>"VivaChavez" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:***@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis and
>> Butthead?
>> A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
>
> Have you noticed that your Hero worship of a man who has had to INVENT
>"battle ribbons" for his SASH to mind fukk his people into thinking he is

PS--where's that photo of David Moore and I together, bitch? Still too
much of a dumb fuck to figure out how to upload it?

Terri


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krp
2006-09-24 21:10:35 UTC
Permalink
TERRI MADISON KARCHER DAVID MOORE'S BAG LADY ASSISTANT STALKER
"Terri" <Anonymous-***@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
news:***@anonymous...
>>> Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis and
>>> Butthead?
>>> A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
>>
>> Have you noticed that your Hero worship of a man who has had to INVENT
>>"battle ribbons" for his SASH to mind fukk his people into thinking he is
>
> PS--where's that photo of David Moore and I together, bitch? Still too
> much of a dumb fuck to figure out how to upload it?

Please tell me again Terri your CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE
connections to Cuba? Those many DEEP DEEP DEEP ties you think you have to
the island? You know, just your REALLY REALLY important ties.
t***@cotse.net
2006-09-25 03:18:58 UTC
Permalink
krp wrote:
KENNETH R. PANGBORN BAG LADY AND STALKER
> "Terri" <Anonymous-***@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
> news:***@anonymous...
> >>> Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis and
> >>> Butthead?
> >>> A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
> >>
> >> Have you noticed that your Hero worship of a man who has had to INVENT
> >>"battle ribbons" for his SASH to mind fukk his people into thinking he is
> >
> > PS--where's that photo of David Moore and I together, bitch? Still too
> > much of a dumb fuck to figure out how to upload it?
>
> Please tell me again Terri your CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE
> connections to Cuba? Those many DEEP DEEP DEEP ties you think you have to
> the island? You know, just your REALLY REALLY important ties.

No close ties required, retarded whiner.
KENNETH R. PANGBORN of the A-Team or KRP CONSULTING has fucked over
so many people, pissed off so many dads, burned so many bridges that it
is only a matter of time before this recent discovery gets its just
reward. The wheels of justice are already in motion. "Fraud" is a bad,
bad work. Pangborn is already bankrupt, the cause of failed marriage
after failed marriage, and even his daughter (so HE claims, although
she denies that he is her father) has written about how he abused her
on her blog. http://www.xanga.com/DealMeIn (She has made sure that he
doesn't have access to her telephone number or address. )

The link directly below is to Kennth R. Pangborn's curriculum vitae
that he posted on a Texas Lawyers organization group because he hoped
some fool would hire him as an expert witness. Note that he list
Shaftesbury University in London as the school that granted both his
undergraduate and graduate "degrees". This school is a sham. The
students do not attend classes. No lessons are sent out through the
mail. To get a degree, you pay a fee and they mail your fake diploma
to you.

http://www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/bios/k_pangborn.pdf#search=%22ken...

Look up Shaftesbury University in Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaftesbury_University
See where Kenny's so called "degrees" came from? Shaftesbury
University.

Shaftesbury University is part of the "University Degree Program
(UDP), an unaccredited consortium of diploma mills run by Jason and
Caroline Abraham (alias: Yaakov and Chaya Rochel). In 2004, The Houston
Chronicle noted UDP is the "granddaddy" of diploma mill operations and
started operating in the mid-1990s.[1]] In fact, "after an
investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, its owners turned over
$100,000 in profits and promised to stay out of the degree-selling
business." [2] However, "the e-mailing hasn't stopped. The call centers
haven't closed. And the money hasn't stopped flowing. If anything, the
business has grown."

The Chronicle revealed one of the two owners is "a mother of four who
has a Ph.D. in mathematics and lives in Brooklyn, NY." The paper
explained day-to-day operations, which "sold more than 30,000 degrees
and may have earned $50-million or perhaps in excess of $100-million"
with its "call centers in Israel and Romania."[3]"

Under that information is a list of schools that falls into this
category. Scroll down to Shaftesbury and clink the link that is
beside the name of the school and that will take you to the following
Pittsburgh Tribune review article.

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/connellsville/s_328132....

[Note the line in the article that says, "he obtained his degree from
Shaftesbury University, in the United Kingdom, in 1986. However, the
state's investigation revealed that, not only did Shal's university
diploma contain two misspellings, but the institution is not
recognized, or accredited, in the United Kingdom or the U.S.

And while the school claims to be accredited by the European Committee
for Home and Online Education, that institution also is not recognized
in the United Kingdom or the U.S. "]

Children's counselor charged with fraud

Subscribe
By Marsha Forys
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, April 26, 2005

A Connellsville man is accused of working as a children's mental health
counselor to state medical assistance recipients for almost three years
without having the proper qualifications.

Leon Edward Shal Jr., 60, of 420 S. Eighth St., faces charges of
complicity, welfare fraud, theft by deception and insurance fraud,
filed by the state Attorney General's Office after a yearlong
investigation.

Shal was a member of the therapeutic support staff at Connellsville
Psychological and Counseling Services, 41 S. Pittsburgh St., from April
2000 to February 2003, according to court documents.

During that time, he allegedly counseled numerous young patients -- all
of whom were clients of the state Department of Public Welfare, Medical
Assistance Program, and he billed the state for his services through
Richard W. Pritts, his employer, and Value Behavioral Health of
Pennsylvania Inc., a health maintenance organization contracted by
Fayette County.

The type of services allegedly offered by Shal required that the
provider have an education that includes, at minimum, a bachelor's
degree. Shal allegedly told his employer he obtained his degree from
Shaftesbury University, in the United Kingdom, in 1986.

However, the state's investigation revealed that, not only did Shal's
university diploma contain two misspellings, but the institution is not
recognized, or accredited, in the United Kingdom or the U.S.

And while the school claims to be accredited by the European Committee
for Home and Online Education, that institution also is not recognized
in the United Kingdom or the U.S.

The state further claims that Shal, when counseling medical assistance
patients, was required by state law to do so one-on-one, yet billing
information obtained by investigators showed that he had on numerous
occasions billed the state for treating two or more patients at the
same time, according to court documents.

The state's investigation allegedly found that Value Behavioral Health
had paid Connellsville Counseling and Psychological Services almost
$150,000 for therapy services allegedly rendered by Shal during the
three years he worked at the clinic.

Shal was arraigned before Magisterial District Judge Ronald Haggerty
Sr., of Connellsville, and remains free on $20,000 unsecured bond. A
preliminary hearing has been set for June 2 before Haggerty.

Marsha Forys can be reached at ***@tribweb.com or 724-626-3582.
krp
2006-09-25 10:29:17 UTC
Permalink
DAVID MOORE INFAMOUS INTERNET PSYCHO STALKER
<***@cotse.net> wrote in message
news:***@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

>> Please tell me again Terri your CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE
>> connections to Cuba? Those many DEEP DEEP DEEP ties you think you have
>> to
>> the island? You know, just your REALLY REALLY important ties.
>
> No close ties required, retarded whiner.

> KENNETH R. PANGBORN of the A-Team or KRP CONSULTING has fucked over
> so many people, pissed off so many dads, burned so many bridges that it
> is only a matter of time before this recent discovery gets its just
> reward. The wheels of justice are already in motion.

Yes the wheels ARE in motion Davey but they are headed YOUR way! Glad
to see you admit that your ONLY reason for infesting those newsgroups is to
STALK me!
t***@cotse.net
2006-09-25 15:26:35 UTC
Permalink
krp wrote:
KENNETH PANGBORN INFAMOUS INTERNET PSYCHO STALKER
> <***@cotse.net> wrote in message
> news:***@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> Please tell me again Terri your CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE
> >> connections to Cuba? Those many DEEP DEEP DEEP ties you think you have
> >> to
> >> the island? You know, just your REALLY REALLY important ties.
> >
> > No close ties required, retarded whiner.
>
> > KENNETH R. PANGBORN of the A-Team or KRP CONSULTING has fucked over
> > so many people, pissed off so many dads, burned so many bridges that it
> > is only a matter of time before this recent discovery gets its just
> > reward. The wheels of justice are already in motion.
>
Yes the wheels ARE in motion Davey but they are headed YOUR way!
Glad to see you admit that your ONLY reason for infesting those
newsgroups is to STALK me!

No such admission was made, Dr. Fraud. To explain the obvious,
there aren't any restrictions on who can post where on usenet.
Kenneth R. Pangborn, the fraud who is written about on a number of
web sites, including http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com, purchased a
completely fake college "degree" from a diploma mill and using those
fake credentials repeatedly tries to extort moneyfrom innocent people.
He is already bankrupt, the cause of failed marriage after failed
marriage, and even his daughter hates and avoids him.
The link directly below is to Kennth R. Pangborn's curriculum vitae
that he posted on a Texas Lawyers organization group because he hoped
some fool would hire him as an expert witness. Notice that he put
Shaftesbury University in London as the school that granted both his
undergraduate and graduate "degrees". This school is a sham. The
students do not attend classes. No lessons are sent out through the
mail. To get a degree, you pay a fee and they mail it to you.

http://www.tcdla.com/secure/experts/bios/k_pangborn.pdf#search=%22ken...

Look up Shaftesbury University in Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaftesbury_University
See where Kenny's so called "degrees" came from? Shaftesbury
University.

Shaftesbury University is part of the "University Degree Program
(UDP), an unaccredited consortium of diploma mills run by Jason and
Caroline Abraham (alias: Yaakov and Chaya Rochel). In 2004, The Houston
Chronicle noted UDP is the "granddaddy" of diploma mill operations and
started operating in the mid-1990s.[1]] In fact, "after an
investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, its owners turned over
$100,000 in profits and promised to stay out of the degree-selling
business." [2] However, "the e-mailing hasn't stopped. The call centers
haven't closed. And the money hasn't stopped flowing. If anything, the
business has grown."

The Chronicle revealed one of the two owners is "a mother of four who
has a Ph.D. in mathematics and lives in Brooklyn, NY." The paper
explained day-to-day operations, which "sold more than 30,000 degrees
and may have earned $50-million or perhaps in excess of $100-million"
with its "call centers in Israel and Romania."[3]"

Under that information is a list of schools that falls into this
category. Scroll down to Shaftesbury and clink the link that is
beside the name of the school and that will take you to the following
Pittsburgh Tribune review article.

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/dailycourier/news/connellsville/s_328132....

[Note the line in the article that says, "he obtained his degree from
Shaftesbury University, in the United Kingdom, in 1986. However, the
tate's investigation revealed that, not only did Shal's university
diploma contain two misspellings, but the institution is not
recognized, or accredited, in the United Kingdom or the U.S.

And while the school claims to be accredited by the European Committee
for Home and Online Education, that institution also is not recognized
in the United Kingdom or the U.S. "]

Children's counselor charged with fraud
By Marsha Forys
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, April 26, 2005

A Connellsville man is accused of working as a children's mental health
counselor to state medical assistance recipients for almost three years
without having the proper qualifications.

Leon Edward Shal Jr., 60, of 420 S. Eighth St., faces charges of
complicity, welfare fraud, theft by deception and insurance fraud,
filed by the state Attorney General's Office after a yearlong
investigation.

Shal was a member of the therapeutic support staff at Connellsville
Psychological and Counseling Services, 41 S. Pittsburgh St., from April
2000 to February 2003, according to court documents.

During that time, he allegedly counseled numerous young patients -- all
of whom were clients of the state Department of Public Welfare, Medical
Assistance Program, and he billed the state for his services through
Richard W. Pritts, his employer, and Value Behavioral Health of
Pennsylvania Inc., a health maintenance organization contracted by
Fayette County.

The type of services allegedly offered by Shal required that the
provider have an education that includes, at minimum, a bachelor's
degree. Shal allegedly told his employer he obtained his degree from
Shaftesbury University, in the United Kingdom, in 1986.

However, the state's investigation revealed that, not only did Shal's
university diploma contain two misspellings, but the institution is not
recognized, or accredited, in the United Kingdom or the U.S.

And while the school claims to be accredited by the European Committee
for Home and Online Education, that institution also is not recognized
in the United Kingdom or the U.S.

The state further claims that Shal, when counseling medical assistance
patients, was required by state law to do so one-on-one, yet billing
information obtained by investigators showed that he had on numerous
occasions billed the state for treating two or more patients at the
same time, according to court documents.

The state's investigation allegedly found that Value Behavioral Health
had paid Connellsville Counseling and Psychological Services almost
$150,000 for therapy services allegedly rendered by Shal during the
three years he worked at the clinic.

Shal was arraigned before Magisterial District Judge Ronald Haggerty
Sr., of Connellsville, and remains free on $20,000 unsecured bond. A
preliminary hearing has been set for June 2 before Haggerty.

Marsha Forys can be reached at ***@tribweb.com or 724-626-3582.
krp
2006-09-25 19:20:11 UTC
Permalink
DAVID MOORE INSANE LITTLE GIRLYMAN
<***@yahoo.com<***@cotse.net> wrote in message
news:***@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

>> >> Please tell me again Terri your CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE
>> >> connections to Cuba? Those many DEEP DEEP DEEP ties you think you
>> >> have
>> >> to
>> >> the island? You know, just your REALLY REALLY important ties.
>> >
>> > No close ties required, retarded whiner.
>>
>> > KENNETH R. PANGBORN of the A-Team or KRP CONSULTING has fucked over
>> > so many people, pissed off so many dads, burned so many bridges that it
>> > is only a matter of time before this recent discovery gets its just
>> > reward. The wheels of justice are already in motion.
>>
> Yes the wheels ARE in motion Davey but they are headed YOUR way!
> Glad to see you admit that your ONLY reason for infesting those
> newsgroups is to STALK me!
>
> No such admission was made, Dr. Fraud. To explain the obvious,
> there aren't any restrictions on who can post where on usenet.

Sure you admitted it Davey. You BRAG about it. In fact stalking ME is
your ONLY reason for living.
Terri
2006-09-25 16:26:40 UTC
Permalink
On 24 Sep 2006, ***@cotse.net wrote:
> krp wrote:
>KENNETH R. PANGBORN BAG LADY AND STALKER
>> "Terri" <Anonymous-***@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
>> news:***@anonymous...
>> >>> Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis and
>> >>> Butthead?
>> >>> A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
>> >>
>> >> Have you noticed that your Hero worship of a man who has had to INVENT
>> >>"battle ribbons" for his SASH to mind fukk his people into thinking he is
>> >
>> > PS--where's that photo of David Moore and I together, bitch? Still too
>> > much of a dumb fuck to figure out how to upload it?
>>
>> Please tell me again Terri your CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE
>> connections to Cuba? Those many DEEP DEEP DEEP ties you think you have to
>> the island? You know, just your REALLY REALLY important ties.
>
> No close ties required, retarded whiner.

Funny--if I'm "cowardly" then why is he the one who runs like a sissy
whenever he's challenged?

Anyone seen that pic of me with David Moore?

T



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Terri
2006-09-24 16:19:09 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, " krp" <***@verizon.net> wrote:
>"VivaChavez" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:***@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis and
>> Butthead?
>> A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
>
> Have you noticed that your Hero worship of a man who has had to INVENT
>"battle ribbons" for his SASH to mind fukk his people into thinking he is

LOL--

And how does this differ from you having to *invent* college degrees to
dupe people into using your consulting services?
www.aboutkenpangborn.com/k_pangborn.pdf

Terri


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Terri
2006-09-24 17:05:29 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006, " krp" <***@verizon.net> wrote:
>"VivaChavez" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:***@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>
>> Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis and
>> Butthead?
>> A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
>
> Have you noticed that your Hero worship of a man who has had to INVENT
>"battle ribbons" for his SASH to mind fukk his people into thinking he is

LOL--

And how does this differ from you having to *invent* college degrees to
dupe people into using your consulting services?
www.aboutkenpangborn.com/k_pangborn.pdf

Terri



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wastecontroller
2006-09-24 22:13:47 UTC
Permalink
Chavez really sounded smart!
I never wacthed Beavis and Butthead butt from what I hear it sounds like the
Venezuelan version od 'Chavez and Castro'.

"VivaChavez" <***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:***@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| Have you noticed that Wastecontroller and Krp sound justlike Beavis
| and Butthead?
| A sure sign of the demise of the Great North American Empire...
|
Pichurra
2006-09-24 00:22:58 UTC
Permalink
On 9/23/06 10:09 AM, in article LebRg.2455$***@trnddc07, "krp"
<***@verizon.net> wrote:


>
> No - people of Venezuela you don't have any of those things. But you are
> getting a SHITLOAD of new MiG fighters and bombers!! JUST what you need!
> Hey, here's an idea, let's START A WAR and blame it on the GRINGOS! The
> IMPERLISTAS! THE YANKEES............ That is certain to make your life the
> best ever!!
>
Well, that's what Chavez wants but nobody takes him seriously enough to
start a war with him!
krp
2006-09-24 00:34:11 UTC
Permalink
"Pichurra" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:C13B4821.6B6D%***@hotmail.com...

>> No - people of Venezuela you don't have any of those things. But you are
>> getting a SHITLOAD of new MiG fighters and bombers!! JUST what you need!
>> Hey, here's an idea, let's START A WAR and blame it on the GRINGOS! The
>> IMPERLISTAS! THE YANKEES............ That is certain to make your life
>> the
>> best ever!!

> Well, that's what Chavez wants but nobody takes him seriously enough to
> start a war with him!

The problem is that the people of Venezuela will pick up the tab for a
leader suffering from megalomania. Somebody needs to show them the photos of
Lebanon and tell them that Venezuela will be 1 million times worse. Hoooogo
beats his chest like he were an alpha male silverback. The goof really
thinks he can defend against the American Air Force. I'm sorry but I have
never been real impressed with the various "Presidentes" of Latin banana
republics with their sashes and all the MEDALS they award themselves to
skull fukk their people and make like a big WAR HERO. What wars? The battle
of the Latrine?? Like I said he awarded himself a medal for all his
parachute jumps. The ONE where the plane was off the ground is the FANCY
one! He's a bag of bullshit - but he'd not be the first loudmouthed asshole
to take his people into a war. A clue would be to look at photos of Berlin,
Germany in 1946.

The real point here is that the PEOPLE in Venezuela are getting NOTHING
from all that oil money that is supposed to be theirs! While that is going
on they are missing what is happening. The free press is being strangled.
HOOOOOOGO gets to appoint all Judges in the Country. ALL of them are his
lackeys. HE gets to name ALL the officers in the Army. The people of
Venezuela aren't being told that KEY positions are being filled by CUBAN
agents. Ask yourselves WHY can't Hugo get any body guards from among the
Venezuelan people? Remember when a bunch of them DEFECTED to the U.S. the
previous time he was at the U.N.? Now we are seeing a Venezuelan equivalent
of the Committee for the Defense of the Revolution being imposed on the
country.
Pichurra
2006-09-24 02:48:03 UTC
Permalink
He was a bad soldier and I assure you that none of those medals he shows
were earn nor giving while he was active...If he finds out that the US
Marines are in their way to Venezuela, he'll hide and flee the country, he
did it before (twice already) and he'll do it again...he surrounds himself
with Cubans because he knows well that the venezuelans will not die to
preserve his life, NONE!


On 9/23/06 8:34 PM, in article 7okRg.859$***@trnddc01, "krp"
<***@verizon.net> wrote:

> "Pichurra" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:C13B4821.6B6D%***@hotmail.com...
>
>>> No - people of Venezuela you don't have any of those things. But you are
>>> getting a SHITLOAD of new MiG fighters and bombers!! JUST what you need!
>>> Hey, here's an idea, let's START A WAR and blame it on the GRINGOS! The
>>> IMPERLISTAS! THE YANKEES............ That is certain to make your life
>>> the
>>> best ever!!
>
>> Well, that's what Chavez wants but nobody takes him seriously enough to
>> start a war with him!
>
> The problem is that the people of Venezuela will pick up the tab for a
> leader suffering from megalomania. Somebody needs to show them the photos of
> Lebanon and tell them that Venezuela will be 1 million times worse. Hoooogo
> beats his chest like he were an alpha male silverback. The goof really
> thinks he can defend against the American Air Force. I'm sorry but I have
> never been real impressed with the various "Presidentes" of Latin banana
> republics with their sashes and all the MEDALS they award themselves to
> skull fukk their people and make like a big WAR HERO. What wars? The battle
> of the Latrine?? Like I said he awarded himself a medal for all his
> parachute jumps. The ONE where the plane was off the ground is the FANCY
> one! He's a bag of bullshit - but he'd not be the first loudmouthed asshole
> to take his people into a war. A clue would be to look at photos of Berlin,
> Germany in 1946.
>
> The real point here is that the PEOPLE in Venezuela are getting NOTHING
> from all that oil money that is supposed to be theirs! While that is going
> on they are missing what is happening. The free press is being strangled.
> HOOOOOOGO gets to appoint all Judges in the Country. ALL of them are his
> lackeys. HE gets to name ALL the officers in the Army. The people of
> Venezuela aren't being told that KEY positions are being filled by CUBAN
> agents. Ask yourselves WHY can't Hugo get any body guards from among the
> Venezuelan people? Remember when a bunch of them DEFECTED to the U.S. the
> previous time he was at the U.N.? Now we are seeing a Venezuelan equivalent
> of the Committee for the Defense of the Revolution being imposed on the
> country.
>
>
>
>
krp
2006-09-24 12:37:07 UTC
Permalink
"Pichurra" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:C13B6A22.6BBB%***@hotmail.com...

> He was a bad soldier and I assure you that none of those medals he shows
> were earn nor giving while he was active...If he finds out that the US
> Marines are in their way to Venezuela, he'll hide and flee the country, he
> did it before (twice already) and he'll do it again...he surrounds himself
> with Cubans because he knows well that the venezuelans will not die to
> preserve his life, NONE!

The simple FACT is that his medals were awarded by himself to himself.
He reminds me of Manual Noriega. All Hooooogo needs is a machete to bang on
the table. I'm sorry for being so much of a Gringo - but this Banana
Republic DICTATOR thing of the fancy sash with all sorts of "battle ribbons"
is just too much the frigging comic opera for me. Too much like a Charlie
Chaplain comedy. The only problem is that he gets too much AID from the U.S.
State Department, hereinafter called the Department of Morons, and the CIA,
hereinafter known as the Central Idiots Association. Between the TWO they
give birth to WHACKJOBS like cousin HOOOOOOOOOOOGO! Chavez proves that
incest is also a problem in Latin America. He must have had his training in
Arkansas!
Henry
2006-09-29 00:49:31 UTC
Permalink
krp wrote:

> Well here is something for the people in Venezuela to chew on. With
> literally BILLIONS of dollars of profit from oil sales, where is it?

Health care, education, water systems, roads, many
thousands of Cuban trained doctors, schools, etc. Do
try to keep up.


--

http://911research.wtc7.net
http://www.st911.org



Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html


"You're doin' a heckuva job, Brownie!" - bu$h, a few days
before his FEMA chief, Micheal Brown was forced to resign
because of his gross incompetence.

"The tools that enable Cuba to save lives and preserve
human dignity during hurricanes are socialist values
and organization." - Dr. W.T. Whitney Jr

Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm

http://www.commondreams.org/
http://www.truthout.org/
http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/
http://thirdworldtraveler.com/
http://counterpunch.org/
http://responsiblewealth.org/

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
Aplasta_Farsantes
2006-09-25 23:16:25 UTC
Permalink
wastecontroller wrote:

> The worse people in your countries are your own leaders.

Yes, yes, this is true... We start with Condie Rice, Dick Cheney, boss
W Bush and the entire Bush crime family. Of course we have more leaders
but "nuff" for now...

> The vast majority of
> your people live in poverty...

That is a reality in the inner cities of USA and since the Bush crime
family arrived at the white house, poverty is growing and the middle
class is on the endangered list.

> And instaed of working to change this you so
> as to leave a better life for future generations...you look to outside
> forces

Yes this is also true, instead of leaving a better life for future
generations of americans the business leaders of the USA look to
outside forces like China, Malasya, Mexico and take the manufacturing
jobs there... Jobs that once were held by people in the US.

> such as the US to blame..

It's not right to blame the US, we must blame the leaders of the US.


> Get off your ass and go and work to better the future for your
> children.

That's right, these no good bums from Walmart, Ford, Nike, Reebok and
many many more should get to work in the US and not hire children in
poor countries to do adult work for 50 cents a day.
Henry
2006-09-29 00:47:37 UTC
Permalink
wastecontroller wrote:

> First of all. if he would change his underware once in a while, he would get
> rid of that sulphur stink. Also, as a Catholic, he ridiculed his religion
> and the religion of his fellow citizens when he made the sign of the cross.
> He looked like a big fat arrogant baffoon to me!
>
> Do the people of Argentina really feel proud of a foolish looking leader
> such as Chavez? I would be humiliated to say I was an Argentinian!

You should be even more humiliated for not even knowing
in which country Chavez has been elected President. When
you're ignorant about a certain subject, you should just
sit back and listen for a while.


--


http://911research.wtc7.net
http://www.st911.org



Here's what happens to steel framed buildings exposed
to raging infernos for hours on end.

http://davesweb.cnchost.com/nwsltr69c.html

On 9-11-01, WTC7, a 47 story steel framed building, which
had only small, random fires, dropped in perfect symmetry
at near free fall speed as in a perfectly executed controlled
demolition.

http://911research.wtc7.net/talks/wtc/videos.html


"You're doin' a heckuva job, Brownie!" - bu$h, a few days
before his FEMA chief, Micheal Brown was forced to resign
because of his gross incompetence.

"The tools that enable Cuba to save lives and preserve
human dignity during hurricanes are socialist values
and organization." - Dr. W.T. Whitney Jr

Ever wonder who benefits from the 300 MILLION
U.S. taxpayer dollars spent each DAY in Iraq?
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0223-08.htm
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?list=type&type=21

"They are waging a campaign of murder and destruction. And
there is no limit to the innocent lives they are willing to
take... men with blind hatred and armed with lethal weapons
who are capable of any atrocity... they respect no laws of
warfare or morality."
-bu$h describing his own illegal invasion of Iraq.
http://www.robert-fisk.com/iraqwarvictims_mar2003.htm


"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things
that matter." -- Martin Luther King Jr.

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President,
or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is
not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable
to the American public."
-- Theodore Roosevelt (1918)

Don't let bu$h do to the United States what his very close
friend and top campaign contributor, Ken Lay, did to Enron...
VivaChavez
2006-09-25 08:23:07 UTC
Permalink
pariguayo wrote:
> A Courageous Man Speaks Out - Hugo Chavez at the UN General Assembly
>
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=LEN20060921&articleId=3298
>
> by Stephen Lendman
>
> September 21, 2006
> GlobalResearch.ca
>
> Email this article to a friend
> Print this article
>
> Hugo Chavez chooses his authors, political and social thinkers well,
> and there's no one better than Noam Chomsky. In his dramatic and
> courageous speech yesterday to the 61st UN General Assembly, Chavez
> held up a copy of Chomsky's 2003 book Hegemony or Survival (which I've
> read and quoted from before). In the book, Chomsky cites the work of
> Ernst Mayr whom he describes as "one of the great figures of
> contemporary biology." Mayr noted that beetles and bacteria have been
> far more successful surviving than the human species is likely to be.
> He also observed that "the average life expectancy of a species is
> about 100,000 years" which is about how long ours has been around, and
> he went on to wonder if we might use our "alloted time" to destroy
> ourselves and much more with us. Chomsky then noted we certainly have
> the means to do it, and should it happen, which he says is very
> possible, we likely will become the only species ever to have made
> itself extinct.
>
> Hugo Chavez also could have explained what Chomsky had to say about
> this possibility in his most recent book, Failed States, in which he
> addresses the three issues he feels are most important - "the threat of
> nuclear war, environmental disaster, and the fact that the government
> of the world's only superpower is acting in ways that increase the
> likelihood of (causing) these catastrophes." Chomsky goes even further
> raising a fourth issue that the "American system" is in danger of
> losing its "historic values (of) equality, liberty and meaningful
> democracy (because of the course it's on)."
>
> Reflecting the thinking and spirit of Noam Chomsky, Hugo Chavez
> delivered an impassioned speech yesterday to the assembled delegates
> who came to hear him. It's one likely to be favorably remembered many
> years from now. At its end, the delegates showed their appreciation and
> support by giving him a standing ovation (the longest one of all the
> leaders addressing the Assembly) in contrast to the cool and polite
> reception given George Bush the previous day who chose not to attend to
> hear the Venezuelan leader. Too bad he didn't as he might have learned
> from it if he stayed alert and paid attention. Citing the language in
> Chomsky's book in his hand, Chavez said: "The hegemonistic pretentions
> of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the
> human species (and) We appeal to the people of the United States and
> the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our
> head." He went on to explain that earlier the President of the US
> attended an Organization of American States meeting and proposed a
> NAFTA-type trade agreement in both regions that is the "fundamental
> cause of the great evils and the great tragedies currently suffered by
> our people. Neoliberal capitalism, the Washington Consensus....has
> generated....a high degree of misery, inequality and infinite tragedy
> for all the peoples on (this) continent."
>
> Hugo Chavez called George Bush "the devil" several times and said he
> came here yesterday and "from this rostrum (talked) as if he owned the
> world." He denounced the President's talk, said he's responsible for
> all conflict in the Middle East, and that those opposed to these
> policies are resisting his imperial model of domination. Chavez
> predicted the US empire will fall, said "What we need now more than
> ever....is a new international order," and that he wants to see a
> reinvented UN be part of what can help achieve it. He said the UN under
> its current rules "does not work" and must be changed to bring more
> democracy to the organization. He called for the "foundation of a new
> United Nations" and proposed four fundamental changes including the
> "need to....suppress....the veto in the decisions taken by the Security
> Council (because) that elitist trace is incompatible with democracy,
> incompatible with the principles of equality and democracy." He also
> called for expanding the Security Council to include developing nations
> as permanent members and wants to strengthen the role of the Secretary
> General. He stressed that today the UN body is "worthless" and needs to
> be "refounded."
>
> Hugo Chavez is dedicated to the principles and spirit of the Bolivarian
> Revolution he gave the people of Venezuela and wants to spread it to
> the developing world as a counter-force to the US model of global
> dominance of the developed North over the less-developed South with the
> US as hegemon-in-chief. He called on leaders from the developing world
> to unite and resist to build a new world model based on social equity
> and justice. Judging by the reception Chavez got yesterday, it looks
> like he made some progress toward that goal, especially in Latin
> America that's become an incubator of resistance against the unipolar
> world the US is beginning to lose its grip on and in support of the
> multi-polar one Hugo Chavez wants to help create.
>
> Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at
> ***@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at
> www.sjlendman.blogspot.com
VivaChavez
2006-09-25 14:12:47 UTC
Permalink
VivaChavez wrote:
> pariguayo wrote:
> > A Courageous Man Speaks Out - Hugo Chavez at the UN General Assembly
> >
> > http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=LEN20060921&articleId=3298
> >
> > by Stephen Lendman
> >
> > September 21, 2006
> > GlobalResearch.ca
> >
> > Email this article to a friend
> > Print this article
> >
> > Hugo Chavez chooses his authors, political and social thinkers well,
> > and there's no one better than Noam Chomsky. In his dramatic and
> > courageous speech yesterday to the 61st UN General Assembly, Chavez
> > held up a copy of Chomsky's 2003 book Hegemony or Survival (which I've
> > read and quoted from before). In the book, Chomsky cites the work of
> > Ernst Mayr whom he describes as "one of the great figures of
> > contemporary biology." Mayr noted that beetles and bacteria have been
> > far more successful surviving than the human species is likely to be.
> > He also observed that "the average life expectancy of a species is
> > about 100,000 years" which is about how long ours has been around, and
> > he went on to wonder if we might use our "alloted time" to destroy
> > ourselves and much more with us. Chomsky then noted we certainly have
> > the means to do it, and should it happen, which he says is very
> > possible, we likely will become the only species ever to have made
> > itself extinct.
> >
> > Hugo Chavez also could have explained what Chomsky had to say about
> > this possibility in his most recent book, Failed States, in which he
> > addresses the three issues he feels are most important - "the threat of
> > nuclear war, environmental disaster, and the fact that the government
> > of the world's only superpower is acting in ways that increase the
> > likelihood of (causing) these catastrophes." Chomsky goes even further
> > raising a fourth issue that the "American system" is in danger of
> > losing its "historic values (of) equality, liberty and meaningful
> > democracy (because of the course it's on)."
> >
> > Reflecting the thinking and spirit of Noam Chomsky, Hugo Chavez
> > delivered an impassioned speech yesterday to the assembled delegates
> > who came to hear him. It's one likely to be favorably remembered many
> > years from now. At its end, the delegates showed their appreciation and
> > support by giving him a standing ovation (the longest one of all the
> > leaders addressing the Assembly) in contrast to the cool and polite
> > reception given George Bush the previous day who chose not to attend to
> > hear the Venezuelan leader. Too bad he didn't as he might have learned
> > from it if he stayed alert and paid attention. Citing the language in
> > Chomsky's book in his hand, Chavez said: "The hegemonistic pretentions
> > of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the
> > human species (and) We appeal to the people of the United States and
> > the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our
> > head." He went on to explain that earlier the President of the US
> > attended an Organization of American States meeting and proposed a
> > NAFTA-type trade agreement in both regions that is the "fundamental
> > cause of the great evils and the great tragedies currently suffered by
> > our people. Neoliberal capitalism, the Washington Consensus....has
> > generated....a high degree of misery, inequality and infinite tragedy
> > for all the peoples on (this) continent."
> >
> > Hugo Chavez called George Bush "the devil" several times and said he
> > came here yesterday and "from this rostrum (talked) as if he owned the
> > world." He denounced the President's talk, said he's responsible for
> > all conflict in the Middle East, and that those opposed to these
> > policies are resisting his imperial model of domination. Chavez
> > predicted the US empire will fall, said "What we need now more than
> > ever....is a new international order," and that he wants to see a
> > reinvented UN be part of what can help achieve it. He said the UN under
> > its current rules "does not work" and must be changed to bring more
> > democracy to the organization. He called for the "foundation of a new
> > United Nations" and proposed four fundamental changes including the
> > "need to....suppress....the veto in the decisions taken by the Security
> > Council (because) that elitist trace is incompatible with democracy,
> > incompatible with the principles of equality and democracy." He also
> > called for expanding the Security Council to include developing nations
> > as permanent members and wants to strengthen the role of the Secretary
> > General. He stressed that today the UN body is "worthless" and needs to
> > be "refounded."
> >
> > Hugo Chavez is dedicated to the principles and spirit of the Bolivarian
> > Revolution he gave the people of Venezuela and wants to spread it to
> > the developing world as a counter-force to the US model of global
> > dominance of the developed North over the less-developed South with the
> > US as hegemon-in-chief. He called on leaders from the developing world
> > to unite and resist to build a new world model based on social equity
> > and justice. Judging by the reception Chavez got yesterday, it looks
> > like he made some progress toward that goal, especially in Latin
> > America that's become an incubator of resistance against the unipolar
> > world the US is beginning to lose its grip on and in support of the
> > multi-polar one Hugo Chavez wants to help create.
> >
> > Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at
> > ***@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at
> > www.sjlendman.blogspot.com
VivaChavez
2006-09-25 18:37:34 UTC
Permalink
VivaChavez wrote:
> VivaChavez wrote:
> > pariguayo wrote:
> > > A Courageous Man Speaks Out - Hugo Chavez at the UN General Assembly
> > >
> > > http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=LEN20060921&articleId=3298
> > >
> > > by Stephen Lendman
> > >
> > > September 21, 2006
> > > GlobalResearch.ca
> > >
> > > Email this article to a friend
> > > Print this article
> > >
> > > Hugo Chavez chooses his authors, political and social thinkers well,
> > > and there's no one better than Noam Chomsky. In his dramatic and
> > > courageous speech yesterday to the 61st UN General Assembly, Chavez
> > > held up a copy of Chomsky's 2003 book Hegemony or Survival (which I've
> > > read and quoted from before). In the book, Chomsky cites the work of
> > > Ernst Mayr whom he describes as "one of the great figures of
> > > contemporary biology." Mayr noted that beetles and bacteria have been
> > > far more successful surviving than the human species is likely to be.
> > > He also observed that "the average life expectancy of a species is
> > > about 100,000 years" which is about how long ours has been around, and
> > > he went on to wonder if we might use our "alloted time" to destroy
> > > ourselves and much more with us. Chomsky then noted we certainly have
> > > the means to do it, and should it happen, which he says is very
> > > possible, we likely will become the only species ever to have made
> > > itself extinct.
> > >
> > > Hugo Chavez also could have explained what Chomsky had to say about
> > > this possibility in his most recent book, Failed States, in which he
> > > addresses the three issues he feels are most important - "the threat of
> > > nuclear war, environmental disaster, and the fact that the government
> > > of the world's only superpower is acting in ways that increase the
> > > likelihood of (causing) these catastrophes." Chomsky goes even further
> > > raising a fourth issue that the "American system" is in danger of
> > > losing its "historic values (of) equality, liberty and meaningful
> > > democracy (because of the course it's on)."
> > >
> > > Reflecting the thinking and spirit of Noam Chomsky, Hugo Chavez
> > > delivered an impassioned speech yesterday to the assembled delegates
> > > who came to hear him. It's one likely to be favorably remembered many
> > > years from now. At its end, the delegates showed their appreciation and
> > > support by giving him a standing ovation (the longest one of all the
> > > leaders addressing the Assembly) in contrast to the cool and polite
> > > reception given George Bush the previous day who chose not to attend to
> > > hear the Venezuelan leader. Too bad he didn't as he might have learned
> > > from it if he stayed alert and paid attention. Citing the language in
> > > Chomsky's book in his hand, Chavez said: "The hegemonistic pretentions
> > > of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the
> > > human species (and) We appeal to the people of the United States and
> > > the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our
> > > head." He went on to explain that earlier the President of the US
> > > attended an Organization of American States meeting and proposed a
> > > NAFTA-type trade agreement in both regions that is the "fundamental
> > > cause of the great evils and the great tragedies currently suffered by
> > > our people. Neoliberal capitalism, the Washington Consensus....has
> > > generated....a high degree of misery, inequality and infinite tragedy
> > > for all the peoples on (this) continent."
> > >
> > > Hugo Chavez called George Bush "the devil" several times and said he
> > > came here yesterday and "from this rostrum (talked) as if he owned the
> > > world." He denounced the President's talk, said he's responsible for
> > > all conflict in the Middle East, and that those opposed to these
> > > policies are resisting his imperial model of domination. Chavez
> > > predicted the US empire will fall, said "What we need now more than
> > > ever....is a new international order," and that he wants to see a
> > > reinvented UN be part of what can help achieve it. He said the UN under
> > > its current rules "does not work" and must be changed to bring more
> > > democracy to the organization. He called for the "foundation of a new
> > > United Nations" and proposed four fundamental changes including the
> > > "need to....suppress....the veto in the decisions taken by the Security
> > > Council (because) that elitist trace is incompatible with democracy,
> > > incompatible with the principles of equality and democracy." He also
> > > called for expanding the Security Council to include developing nations
> > > as permanent members and wants to strengthen the role of the Secretary
> > > General. He stressed that today the UN body is "worthless" and needs to
> > > be "refounded."
> > >
> > > Hugo Chavez is dedicated to the principles and spirit of the Bolivarian
> > > Revolution he gave the people of Venezuela and wants to spread it to
> > > the developing world as a counter-force to the US model of global
> > > dominance of the developed North over the less-developed South with the
> > > US as hegemon-in-chief. He called on leaders from the developing world
> > > to unite and resist to build a new world model based on social equity
> > > and justice. Judging by the reception Chavez got yesterday, it looks
> > > like he made some progress toward that goal, especially in Latin
> > > America that's become an incubator of resistance against the unipolar
> > > world the US is beginning to lose its grip on and in support of the
> > > multi-polar one Hugo Chavez wants to help create.
> > >
> > > Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at
> > > ***@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at
> > > www.sjlendman.blogspot.com
VivaChavez
2006-09-25 15:39:44 UTC
Permalink
VivaChavez wrote:
> pariguayo wrote:
> > A Courageous Man Speaks Out - Hugo Chavez at the UN General Assembly
> >
> > http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=LEN20060921&articleId=3298
> >
> > by Stephen Lendman
> >
> > September 21, 2006
> > GlobalResearch.ca
> >
> > Email this article to a friend
> > Print this article
> >
> > Hugo Chavez chooses his authors, political and social thinkers well,
> > and there's no one better than Noam Chomsky. In his dramatic and
> > courageous speech yesterday to the 61st UN General Assembly, Chavez
> > held up a copy of Chomsky's 2003 book Hegemony or Survival (which I've
> > read and quoted from before). In the book, Chomsky cites the work of
> > Ernst Mayr whom he describes as "one of the great figures of
> > contemporary biology." Mayr noted that beetles and bacteria have been
> > far more successful surviving than the human species is likely to be.
> > He also observed that "the average life expectancy of a species is
> > about 100,000 years" which is about how long ours has been around, and
> > he went on to wonder if we might use our "alloted time" to destroy
> > ourselves and much more with us. Chomsky then noted we certainly have
> > the means to do it, and should it happen, which he says is very
> > possible, we likely will become the only species ever to have made
> > itself extinct.
> >
> > Hugo Chavez also could have explained what Chomsky had to say about
> > this possibility in his most recent book, Failed States, in which he
> > addresses the three issues he feels are most important - "the threat of
> > nuclear war, environmental disaster, and the fact that the government
> > of the world's only superpower is acting in ways that increase the
> > likelihood of (causing) these catastrophes." Chomsky goes even further
> > raising a fourth issue that the "American system" is in danger of
> > losing its "historic values (of) equality, liberty and meaningful
> > democracy (because of the course it's on)."
> >
> > Reflecting the thinking and spirit of Noam Chomsky, Hugo Chavez
> > delivered an impassioned speech yesterday to the assembled delegates
> > who came to hear him. It's one likely to be favorably remembered many
> > years from now. At its end, the delegates showed their appreciation and
> > support by giving him a standing ovation (the longest one of all the
> > leaders addressing the Assembly) in contrast to the cool and polite
> > reception given George Bush the previous day who chose not to attend to
> > hear the Venezuelan leader. Too bad he didn't as he might have learned
> > from it if he stayed alert and paid attention. Citing the language in
> > Chomsky's book in his hand, Chavez said: "The hegemonistic pretentions
> > of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the
> > human species (and) We appeal to the people of the United States and
> > the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our
> > head." He went on to explain that earlier the President of the US
> > attended an Organization of American States meeting and proposed a
> > NAFTA-type trade agreement in both regions that is the "fundamental
> > cause of the great evils and the great tragedies currently suffered by
> > our people. Neoliberal capitalism, the Washington Consensus....has
> > generated....a high degree of misery, inequality and infinite tragedy
> > for all the peoples on (this) continent."
> >
> > Hugo Chavez called George Bush "the devil" several times and said he
> > came here yesterday and "from this rostrum (talked) as if he owned the
> > world." He denounced the President's talk, said he's responsible for
> > all conflict in the Middle East, and that those opposed to these
> > policies are resisting his imperial model of domination. Chavez
> > predicted the US empire will fall, said "What we need now more than
> > ever....is a new international order," and that he wants to see a
> > reinvented UN be part of what can help achieve it. He said the UN under
> > its current rules "does not work" and must be changed to bring more
> > democracy to the organization. He called for the "foundation of a new
> > United Nations" and proposed four fundamental changes including the
> > "need to....suppress....the veto in the decisions taken by the Security
> > Council (because) that elitist trace is incompatible with democracy,
> > incompatible with the principles of equality and democracy." He also
> > called for expanding the Security Council to include developing nations
> > as permanent members and wants to strengthen the role of the Secretary
> > General. He stressed that today the UN body is "worthless" and needs to
> > be "refounded."
> >
> > Hugo Chavez is dedicated to the principles and spirit of the Bolivarian
> > Revolution he gave the people of Venezuela and wants to spread it to
> > the developing world as a counter-force to the US model of global
> > dominance of the developed North over the less-developed South with the
> > US as hegemon-in-chief. He called on leaders from the developing world
> > to unite and resist to build a new world model based on social equity
> > and justice. Judging by the reception Chavez got yesterday, it looks
> > like he made some progress toward that goal, especially in Latin
> > America that's become an incubator of resistance against the unipolar
> > world the US is beginning to lose its grip on and in support of the
> > multi-polar one Hugo Chavez wants to help create.
> >
> > Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at
> > ***@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at
> > www.sjlendman.blogspot.com
VivaChavez
2006-09-25 20:23:14 UTC
Permalink
pariguayo wrote:
> A Courageous Man Speaks Out - Hugo Chavez at the UN General Assembly
>
> http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=LEN20060921&articleId=3298
>
> by Stephen Lendman
>
> September 21, 2006
> GlobalResearch.ca
>
> Email this article to a friend
> Print this article
>
> Hugo Chavez chooses his authors, political and social thinkers well,
> and there's no one better than Noam Chomsky. In his dramatic and
> courageous speech yesterday to the 61st UN General Assembly, Chavez
> held up a copy of Chomsky's 2003 book Hegemony or Survival (which I've
> read and quoted from before). In the book, Chomsky cites the work of
> Ernst Mayr whom he describes as "one of the great figures of
> contemporary biology." Mayr noted that beetles and bacteria have been
> far more successful surviving than the human species is likely to be.
> He also observed that "the average life expectancy of a species is
> about 100,000 years" which is about how long ours has been around, and
> he went on to wonder if we might use our "alloted time" to destroy
> ourselves and much more with us. Chomsky then noted we certainly have
> the means to do it, and should it happen, which he says is very
> possible, we likely will become the only species ever to have made
> itself extinct.
>
> Hugo Chavez also could have explained what Chomsky had to say about
> this possibility in his most recent book, Failed States, in which he
> addresses the three issues he feels are most important - "the threat of
> nuclear war, environmental disaster, and the fact that the government
> of the world's only superpower is acting in ways that increase the
> likelihood of (causing) these catastrophes." Chomsky goes even further
> raising a fourth issue that the "American system" is in danger of
> losing its "historic values (of) equality, liberty and meaningful
> democracy (because of the course it's on)."
>
> Reflecting the thinking and spirit of Noam Chomsky, Hugo Chavez
> delivered an impassioned speech yesterday to the assembled delegates
> who came to hear him. It's one likely to be favorably remembered many
> years from now. At its end, the delegates showed their appreciation and
> support by giving him a standing ovation (the longest one of all the
> leaders addressing the Assembly) in contrast to the cool and polite
> reception given George Bush the previous day who chose not to attend to
> hear the Venezuelan leader. Too bad he didn't as he might have learned
> from it if he stayed alert and paid attention. Citing the language in
> Chomsky's book in his hand, Chavez said: "The hegemonistic pretentions
> of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the
> human species (and) We appeal to the people of the United States and
> the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our
> head." He went on to explain that earlier the President of the US
> attended an Organization of American States meeting and proposed a
> NAFTA-type trade agreement in both regions that is the "fundamental
> cause of the great evils and the great tragedies currently suffered by
> our people. Neoliberal capitalism, the Washington Consensus....has
> generated....a high degree of misery, inequality and infinite tragedy
> for all the peoples on (this) continent."
>
> Hugo Chavez called George Bush "the devil" several times and said he
> came here yesterday and "from this rostrum (talked) as if he owned the
> world." He denounced the President's talk, said he's responsible for
> all conflict in the Middle East, and that those opposed to these
> policies are resisting his imperial model of domination. Chavez
> predicted the US empire will fall, said "What we need now more than
> ever....is a new international order," and that he wants to see a
> reinvented UN be part of what can help achieve it. He said the UN under
> its current rules "does not work" and must be changed to bring more
> democracy to the organization. He called for the "foundation of a new
> United Nations" and proposed four fundamental changes including the
> "need to....suppress....the veto in the decisions taken by the Security
> Council (because) that elitist trace is incompatible with democracy,
> incompatible with the principles of equality and democracy." He also
> called for expanding the Security Council to include developing nations
> as permanent members and wants to strengthen the role of the Secretary
> General. He stressed that today the UN body is "worthless" and needs to
> be "refounded."
>
> Hugo Chavez is dedicated to the principles and spirit of the Bolivarian
> Revolution he gave the people of Venezuela and wants to spread it to
> the developing world as a counter-force to the US model of global
> dominance of the developed North over the less-developed South with the
> US as hegemon-in-chief. He called on leaders from the developing world
> to unite and resist to build a new world model based on social equity
> and justice. Judging by the reception Chavez got yesterday, it looks
> like he made some progress toward that goal, especially in Latin
> America that's become an incubator of resistance against the unipolar
> world the US is beginning to lose its grip on and in support of the
> multi-polar one Hugo Chavez wants to help create.
>
> Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at
> ***@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at
> www.sjlendman.blogspot.com
VivaChavez
2006-09-25 22:26:42 UTC
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VivaChavez wrote:
> pariguayo wrote:
> > A Courageous Man Speaks Out - Hugo Chavez at the UN General Assembly
> >
> > http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=LEN20060921&articleId=3298
> >
> > by Stephen Lendman
> >
> > September 21, 2006
> > GlobalResearch.ca
> >
> > Email this article to a friend
> > Print this article
> >
> > Hugo Chavez chooses his authors, political and social thinkers well,
> > and there's no one better than Noam Chomsky. In his dramatic and
> > courageous speech yesterday to the 61st UN General Assembly, Chavez
> > held up a copy of Chomsky's 2003 book Hegemony or Survival (which I've
> > read and quoted from before). In the book, Chomsky cites the work of
> > Ernst Mayr whom he describes as "one of the great figures of
> > contemporary biology." Mayr noted that beetles and bacteria have been
> > far more successful surviving than the human species is likely to be.
> > He also observed that "the average life expectancy of a species is
> > about 100,000 years" which is about how long ours has been around, and
> > he went on to wonder if we might use our "alloted time" to destroy
> > ourselves and much more with us. Chomsky then noted we certainly have
> > the means to do it, and should it happen, which he says is very
> > possible, we likely will become the only species ever to have made
> > itself extinct.
> >
> > Hugo Chavez also could have explained what Chomsky had to say about
> > this possibility in his most recent book, Failed States, in which he
> > addresses the three issues he feels are most important - "the threat of
> > nuclear war, environmental disaster, and the fact that the government
> > of the world's only superpower is acting in ways that increase the
> > likelihood of (causing) these catastrophes." Chomsky goes even further
> > raising a fourth issue that the "American system" is in danger of
> > losing its "historic values (of) equality, liberty and meaningful
> > democracy (because of the course it's on)."
> >
> > Reflecting the thinking and spirit of Noam Chomsky, Hugo Chavez
> > delivered an impassioned speech yesterday to the assembled delegates
> > who came to hear him. It's one likely to be favorably remembered many
> > years from now. At its end, the delegates showed their appreciation and
> > support by giving him a standing ovation (the longest one of all the
> > leaders addressing the Assembly) in contrast to the cool and polite
> > reception given George Bush the previous day who chose not to attend to
> > hear the Venezuelan leader. Too bad he didn't as he might have learned
> > from it if he stayed alert and paid attention. Citing the language in
> > Chomsky's book in his hand, Chavez said: "The hegemonistic pretentions
> > of the American empire are placing at risk the very existence of the
> > human species (and) We appeal to the people of the United States and
> > the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our
> > head." He went on to explain that earlier the President of the US
> > attended an Organization of American States meeting and proposed a
> > NAFTA-type trade agreement in both regions that is the "fundamental
> > cause of the great evils and the great tragedies currently suffered by
> > our people. Neoliberal capitalism, the Washington Consensus....has
> > generated....a high degree of misery, inequality and infinite tragedy
> > for all the peoples on (this) continent."
> >
> > Hugo Chavez called George Bush "the devil" several times and said he
> > came here yesterday and "from this rostrum (talked) as if he owned the
> > world." He denounced the President's talk, said he's responsible for
> > all conflict in the Middle East, and that those opposed to these
> > policies are resisting his imperial model of domination. Chavez
> > predicted the US empire will fall, said "What we need now more than
> > ever....is a new international order," and that he wants to see a
> > reinvented UN be part of what can help achieve it. He said the UN under
> > its current rules "does not work" and must be changed to bring more
> > democracy to the organization. He called for the "foundation of a new
> > United Nations" and proposed four fundamental changes including the
> > "need to....suppress....the veto in the decisions taken by the Security
> > Council (because) that elitist trace is incompatible with democracy,
> > incompatible with the principles of equality and democracy." He also
> > called for expanding the Security Council to include developing nations
> > as permanent members and wants to strengthen the role of the Secretary
> > General. He stressed that today the UN body is "worthless" and needs to
> > be "refounded."
> >
> > Hugo Chavez is dedicated to the principles and spirit of the Bolivarian
> > Revolution he gave the people of Venezuela and wants to spread it to
> > the developing world as a counter-force to the US model of global
> > dominance of the developed North over the less-developed South with the
> > US as hegemon-in-chief. He called on leaders from the developing world
> > to unite and resist to build a new world model based on social equity
> > and justice. Judging by the reception Chavez got yesterday, it looks
> > like he made some progress toward that goal, especially in Latin
> > America that's become an incubator of resistance against the unipolar
> > world the US is beginning to lose its grip on and in support of the
> > multi-polar one Hugo Chavez wants to help create.
> >
> > Stephen Lendman lives in Chicago and can be reached at
> > ***@sbcglobal.net. Also visit his blog site at
> > www.sjlendman.blogspot.com
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