[troll alert] Snit Circus of Pathological Myths Quoter, 2nd Ed.

To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only
format" is simply a myth.

The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS
Office.

That is not a myth. It is fact

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>

Another Snit myth, just like the so called Linux GUI problems
several months ago. I took a complex multi-tabbed, multi linked
Office 2003 spreadsheet from work and it opened fine in OO Calc.
Ditto with PowerPoint presentations and internal office memoranda.

If that is good enough for your office, fine... but for most
businesses it is not.

The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue. Now in its
second printing, alphabetised, here is what these 127 posters
have to say about Snit:

1- Adam Kesher: "Steve, IIRC Sandman's website has a member area
and a login. If you forget your password, you can ask it to
e-mail it to you, and a bot will send an e-mail.

*That* is the e-mail Snit got from Sandman's website, and yes
he's that fucked in the head and starved for attention that he'd
claim it to be an e-mail from Sandman himself. So, don't get
sucked into his little circus.

The e-mail, in this particular instance, did probably originate
from Sandman.net."

2- Alan Baker: "People's perceptions of you are *formed* by
behaviour and not withstanding your occasional on topic posts, I
wish you'd leave too. Please note that despite the amazing
silliness that is Edwin, I have never made the same wish of him."

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/4a7c3ebf3fc10221

3- Andrew J. Brehm: "You are not flamed because you speak the
truth, you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep
disrupting the newsgroup."

4- AZ Nomad: "The fact that you routinely change your headers to
weasel out of killfiles proves that you're an asshole."

5- Andy/news/nospam: "Why do you keep these things up, Snit? Why
not just let them go away and show how responsible a member of
CSMA you are? You could show your enemies up by being better than
then, rise above the low level you so obviously dislike.
Anything, just stop...."

6- B.B.: "Does the From: header contain the string "Snit"? If
yes, then troll. Otherwise, maybe. Dunno why I had my KF on you
set to expire, but it's fixed now."

7- BaJoRi:
Snit: "You are, of course, lying."
BaJoRi: "No, I am not. You know it, and I know it, and everyone
else who has read your idiocy knows it. I took your statement,
showed it to be wrong, then added even more, just to be a dick
and REALLY show you to be a fool. You need to judiciously snip
out pertinent points because you are an intellectually dwarfed
turd-burglar." 11 Nov 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.vacation.las-vegas/msg/647944511b74b82f

8- bobinnv: "I learned some time ago how much better this group
can be if you kill file Snit. I have never understood why more
people don't do the same.."

9- Bob S: "This has always been pretty much a free-for-all group,
but since Snit showed up, its become almost impossible to have a
decent discussion about anything.

The solution is to NOT REPLY TO SNIT. But for some reason, some
people just can't stop feeding him."

10- [b]unny: "snit makes me sad."

11- buzz off: "Snit is obviously mentally ill..."

12- Carlo Coggi: "He must believe he is surrounded by 'trolls'
... in the groups he trolls in, that is. I wondered if the
idiotrollers like snit would reply to this thread. Of course, I
didn't see his posts, only your reply".

13- chrisv (cola): "No, she called him "shit", and rightly so,
for they way he was so ignominiously birthed into a toilet at the
bus depot, and simply refused to die, despite repeated flushes.

It's now far too late to *flush* him, but we can still *plonk*
him..."

14- C Lund: "Snit is not my responsibility. Maybe it's time for
you to learn how to use your kill-filter. I am assuming, of
course, that your Usenet browser has a kill-filter."

15- cc (COLA): "Snit posts all the time. You don't have to dig up
months old articles where he brings up years old topics. Just
respond to a current message." 22 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5a712e3312ba9f8a

16- Code Orange: "Then why post it? What need is there for you to
"win" an argument? They don't like you, you don't like them. Why
must you keep this up? What results are you expecting?"

17- CozmicDebris: "I'm done with your three year old games. The
archives show my answers and your inability to process them. Keep
posting your list and proving that you are an idiot troll. I will
not address it any further- you being too stupid to realize and
accept that is not my problem".

18- Dawg Tail: "You've already apologized for having already
misread what I had previously written. What makes you think that
you're correctly understanding what I'm writting now. You've got
a history of reading into things what you wanted people to have
said instead of what they really said.

I suggest you get over this limitation of yours. It's making you
look foolish."

Dawg Tail: "PC advocates, Mac advocates, Linux advocates. Almost
all of them are making similar claims about Snit. When you have
so many diverse people who share a common perception where do you
think the problem lies? With Snit? Or almost everyone else? The
answer doesn't require an advanced degree to figure out."

19- Dave Fritzinger: "Snit, please go away. Get a life, meet a
woman, do something, but please, please, please, GO AWAY!!!!"

20- Donald L McDaniel: "Jesus, snit. You're a teacher. I thought
you knew what a metaphor was, and could recognize one when it was
presented to you. I guess I had too much confidence in you."

21- ed: "snit, you continually amaze me with how much of a liar
and loser you are. you may notice a semi-regular pattern with me
where i stop responding to your posts for stretches at a time,
then start up responding as if you were a normal person. i
suppose it's tough for the magnitude of your 'loserdom' to stick,
so it loses some of it's sharpness when i stop responding to you.
you almost always start responding back in a semi normal way, but
inevitably degenerate. it's once again that time. i can only ask
that you pass my condolences to your wife and unborn child for
having to put up with such a dishonest fool as yourself. (well,
if your wife is a loser as well, just pass those condolences to
the rug-rat to be; if not, double condolences to her). "

22- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest
and honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the
biggest liar in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove
Snit was using sock puppets and he still is. Snit can not give
up his socks puppets and shills. They are the only ones who ever
support him." 28 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229

23- Edwin: "You've got to be out of your mind, Snit. You're the
worst troll this group has ever seen. You're a liar and a forger,
and you've almost destroyed this group single-handedly. For you
to post a list of out of context arguments, and lies, and
forgeries about your enemies labled as a "peace effort" has to be
one of the craziest stunts you've pulled. It's all about your
sick need for attention, your need to be center stage at all
times. You'd publicly eat dog turd if you thought it would make
people look at you."

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/37e4a720619642a0

24- Elijah Baley: "Seriously, Snit, you need psychiatric help. Go
see a doctor."

25- Elizabot v2.0.2: "I see you were unable to respond to the
points in my post and you are back to your repetitious
regurgitation mode. How childishly typical of you, Snit."

26- fibercut: "That is the problem. In the years I have been
coming to CSMA I have seen in the past year a real hatred among
people, besides the typical Mac vs. Windows typical argument. I
feel that it is like being in a room of really young children
trying there best to best the other person. The one common thing
among all of this seems to be you. I hate to be like this, but
facts are facts. You seem to be in the middle of a great
percentage of arguments. CSMA has become less about Macs and more
about "look everybody, I think he lied". Is there no end then all
this picking at each other on such a personal level. CSMA has
always been al little adversarial but you have personally crank
it up to the point that this place is no longer fun.
Congratulations on stopping CSMA and making this place your own
personal circus."

27- Geezer:
Snit: "Steve Carroll has no sense of morality"
Geezer: "Whined the guy who cannot directly address those who
uncover his lies and deceit;)"
Snit: "and no clue about the law."
Geezer: 'Said the guy who believes his unsupported opinions are
"proof". LOL! (snip more of Snit's unsupported lies)' 01 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d0517ced5134934d

28- Geoff M. Fitton: "The Prescott Computer Guy *still* showing
how stupid he is... What a mar00n".

29- George Graves: "Jason. You have started an argument with the
Snit (AKA Michael Glasser), this should not be done. He will
drive you crazy with his twisted logic, his deep-rooted need to
be ALWAYS right at any cost. He will move goalposts, set up
strawmen, and bore you into submission with his endless
pedanticism. The only way to engage him is to hit and run. NEVER
engage him, it's a futile, empty procedure that will only anger
you and feed him. Take my advice and STAY AWAY!"

30- ***@yahoo.com: "Hitting the vodka tonight
Snit?"

31- Greycloud: "You really shouldn't lie like that. Everyone else
notices that you are not honest and you have no honor."

32- H: "Your crappy posts are still showing up in seperate
threads, are you doing this on purpose to piss people off? I dont
ever censor people cause that's just retarded but if you dont fix
it I'm gonna have to cause I dont wanna see your
name 40 times in a row. So uh, change your client or something".

33- Hadron (COLA):
Snit: "Now why not end your silliness and either just stop your
BS or actually give reasoned comments on the screen shots you
keep asking for and I keep providing?
Hadron: "err, he just did. And you snipped it all you weasel."
30 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/de49f2b7471d2e1a

34- Henry Flam: "Who gives a damn about this shit? Snit, once in
a while, I make the mistake in thinking that that you are
starting to make sense in your posts; I tend to agree with your
politics. Then you post stuff like this and it destroys any
respect that I have for you."

35- Heywood Mogroot: "*plonk*"

36- -hh: 'Perversion has utterly nothing to do with the
definition of "synonymous". It is, however, a very clear example
of how you attempt to maliciously debase against anyone who
disagrees with you. As such, I consider this to be a purposeful
attempt by you to try to libel me. This is your only warning to
consider rescinding your remark, with the reminder that you, and
you alone are responsible for that accusation, both in the
ethical as well as the full legal meaning of the word
"responsible".' 25 Feb 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/5496641a3426293a

37- High Plains Thumper: "I can understand why posters get sick
and tired of your lame ad hominem attacks, your cowardly
statements shifting the goal posts, your continuous rambling
drivel of how everyone seems to be against you. No one cares a
wooden nickel about your incessant flame wars that are self
created. You pretend to be an advocate but you manage to cause
everyone's hand to be against you." 6 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/b27ba196819ad38f

38- Homer (COLA):
HPT: "Snit in a period of 2 minutes has copied a post of mine,
posting the same following message over and over, in false
pretense as a Linux advocate."
Homer: "That kind of behaviour is not normal, to say the least.
I don't mean this as a personal insult, but I'm perfectly serious
when I say 'Snit' (Michael Glasser) is obviously mentally ill,
and needs help. I was going to suggest that someone alerts his
wife to the problem, but I have to assume she's already aware of
his condition, if she is in fact still living with him. It's
possible, I suppose, that he's already undergoing counselling
and/or on medication, but if he is then it doesn't seem to be
helping much. Maybe he just missed his 'meds' today (again, I
mean that sincerely). 26 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/e061874ea94e9ce8

39- Jamie Hart (cola): "It seems that since you are unable to
offer support for your statements, you're reduced to personal
attacks on me. Incidentally, anyone reading this post can see
that I have offered no straw men, and have only asked you to
explain how the things you state as facts can be true. I'm really
sorry that you're taking this attitude, the topic is an
interesting one and I thought you might have some insights. I've
snipped the rest, since you dislike long posts and avoid
answering any of the questions I asked by saying everything was
just repeated. "

40- Jason McNorton: "You're one of the many, many paranoid people
on usenet that should be confined most likely. You sit there and
refresh your screen endlessly. You post the same nonsense over
and over. Either you're a super troll, or you're a super mess."

41- JEDIDIAH (cola): "You're simply full of shit."

42- Jeff B.: "Yo, Snit. We're not pals. I think you're a git."

43- Jeff Hoppe: "This is a Macintosh Advocacy newsgroup. Not a
12-step recovery plan. Your medical problems or conditions won't
help me achieve a greater understanding of my Mac. In fact, it
detracts from it and those kinds of discussions have no place in
a newsgroup such as this."

44- Jesus: "Really, Snit. It's annoying. What are you
accomplishing besides being annoying? Is that your goal?"

45- Jim Lee Jr.: "Snit, read the thread's title, is Bush
mentioned in it? You (and Carroll) ought to learn to stay on
topic and not hijack threads."

46- Jim Polaski: "Why is it that nearly every thread you're
involved in seems like it turns into some tit-for-tat, dozens of
responses to OT things and garbage?"

47- Jim Richardson (cola): "And yet again, Snit runs away, rather
than actually provide evidence for his claims. Par for the course
I suppose."

48- Joey Jojo Junior Shabadoo: "and Snithead has even farther to
fall - in a few weeks he'll be out on the street after midnight,
yelling at passersby 'sucky sucky, $2...'" 23 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/57cf69f66571a5a7

49- John C. Randolph: "You're nothing but a troll yourself. What
are you bitching about?"

50- JohnOfArc (cola): "I'm not sure "troll" does it justice- more
like a black hole! But hey, if we all promise to never again even
entertain an unkind thought re Apple, will you take it back and
lock it up? Please??"

51- John Q. Public: "I have not been bothered to read Snit's
postings since I figured out who he is. I don't bother to filter
his posts, I just consider the source and skip to the next one
when I see his name."

52- John Slade: "I don't get posts from Snit. I wouldn't be
shocked that he has some kind of disorder. He made up stuff about
being a computer repairman and teacher. He's just plain loony and
best ignored. Let him deal with his disorder by medication. He's
here to do one thing, get attention from people. He says the
crazy stuff just to get a reaction.
You say you like to beat him over the head. Well that's what he's
counting on, he says stuff he knows isn't true in hopes to get a
rise out of people like you. Ignore him, you won't regret it."

John Slade: "Snit, you have a enough problems as it is without
adding drinking booze to the list. How the hell did you manage to
get out of my killfile? Oh well back into the cage you go, PLONK."

53- Josh McKee: "Snit, I assume there was some point to this
posting? Because I certainly cannot find it."

54- K E: "I haven't read this board for awhile but I see that
even though the trolls still roam free at least the worst troll
of the lot is mostly being ignored by readers on this bb. If the
few stragglers that keep replying to him would just stop
responding to Snit at all this place could be worth coming back
to. There's a good chance he'll pack up and take his trolling to
more fertile ground."

55- KK: 'Whoa there, ad hominem man. You started off your
sentence with "Ah" like you'd just realized something profound.'
29 Oct 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.howard-stern/msg/6a89029a5b5be5f8

56- Kelsey Bjarnason (cola): "Funny how you simply don't bother
reading the posts that rip your entire thesis to bleeding gobbets
of putrid excrescence. Maybe some day you'll learn how to support
your position, instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and
humming, hoping it'll all go away."

57- Ku Karlovsky (cola): "You repeatedly chastise others for ad
hominem attacks while in the same sentence make your own ad
hominem attacks. You make silly claims and then avoid the subject
of your silliness. You're a liar and a hypocrite and you always
have been." 14 Jul 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/d1e3f9ac5c72c6ee

58- Lars Trager: "Yes, you are stupid."

59- Lefty Bigfoot: "Okay, I tried to put up with it for a long
time, but the few times you post something worth reading just
aren't worth it anymore. *plonk*"

60- Liam Slider (cola): "Maybe he's responding to the fact you've
been an annoying little fuckwit lately. You started out with the
pretense of trying to be fair, but lately all there is from you
in COLA is trashtalk about Linux and you acting every bit the troll."

61-libcrushersmith: "Snit also thinks Dan Rather still anchors
CBS News and that Gitmo terrorists are innocent! Any time Snit
is cornered, he changes the subject and will never admit he's
wrong." 28 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/fbc516717f3b7ccf

62- libsnightmare: "Excellent checkmate and end game for Snit.
He will always be running scared and welcoming to any stranger
willing to listen to his lies." 12 Mar 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.guitar.amps/msg/6d137223b0f392e7

63- Linonut (cola): "Snit is a Tholenoid."

"Indeed. Snit may be the first retraction of my general killfile
amnesty. The volume of cavilling, whining, foot-stomping,
back-tracking, goal-post shifting, and petulance generated by
that effete candy-ass beggars belief". 30 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/cc4827fd7e8ad574

64- Lloyd Parsons: "Well, I don't know if Oxford is the most
cretinous, I would think that would be reserved for Snit! ;-)"

65- Mark Kent (cola): "The problem with someone like Mr Glasser
is the same as it is with Mr Wong, even if he were to be honest
now, it would be impossible to determine where the honesty starts
and the usual dishonesty ends. In my primary school, one of the
teachers was very keen on proverbs, and I recall her going over
the "cry wolf" story. Mr Glasser could "cry wolf" over and over
now, and I would not come to help him with his sheep, because I
do not know any way of determining if he's ever telling the
truth, or indeed, if he ever has."

66- Mayor of R'lyeh: "The fact is that he's probably pulling it
to this post since its all about him and he managed to make me
think about him today. A friend of mine has a toddler. I went
over to her house and videotaped her kid doing a bunch of cute
toddler stuff then burned a DVD of it for her. While we were
watching the DVD her kid got mad. He got mad because we quit
making him the center of attention and made that kid on the tv
the center of attention. He even ran up to the tv and tried to
block our view of it. That's how Snit lives his whole life."

67- Michelle Ronn: "The real topic here is that one someone
refutes your "facts", you run away and ignore them. Refuting your
"facts" is easily done in this case. I did it, and you ignored it. "

68- Mike: "Nonsense. I never see you "advocate" anything. All I
see you doing is engage in endless semantic arguments with
everyone. You're the TholenBot of CSMA. BTW, that's *not* a
compliment!"

69- Mike Dee: "I will no longer accuse you of lying here. Instead
I can only say that you are a complete and delusional kook that
happens to inhabit CSMA for the time being. That you are unaware
of how deranged you actually behave further reinforces this
notion. Please seek professional help."

70- mmoore321: "Snit is a human car-accident and we are all
rubbernecking. We know it is bad form, but yet strangely curious.
Treat him the same way, look but just keep moving on."

71- Mojo: "Actually, these facts piss everybody off because they
are off-topic, unnecessarily confrontational, extremely boring
and clearly show that you are crying out for attention."

72- Mr. Blonde: "Lastly, I can't help but comment on the fact
that your obsession with Sandman has actually grown since you
claimed to KF him. Killfilling someone generally implies you're
ignoring that person, yet you piggyback onto virtually every
reply to him here and and check his website's validation status
more often than most people check their e-mail. These are not the
actions of a mentally balanced individual."

73- MR_ED_of_Course: "Seriously, spend half a day at any
pre-school or kindergarten and see if the kids there can't teach
you a thing or two about social behavior."

74- Muahman: "Ummm, dude you post 1000 posts a day. 999 of them
are trolls, if anyone here has issues it's not me."

75- Nashton/Nasht0n: "Oh for crying out loud, if I wasn't
convinced that snit is a total loser, and I rarely call people
losers, I certainly am now. Why bother responding to his
stupidities anyway?"

76- New Bee: "Honest and honorable? You? You've either got a wry
sense of humor, or you're completely nuts. Either way you're just
a waste of time, and you've done more than anybody to make this
group a cesspool. Then you revel in wallowing in your own filth."

77- Not Important: "I get this mental image of you and a sibling
as children in the back seat of the family car saying:
Mom, 'snits' touching me ... and you responding much as you do
now ... I'm not touching you, you're touching me! The problem is
that by now you should've grown out of that type of poke and
complain interaction with others. But, of course, you've haven't
learned how to interact with others in a more 'constructive' and
mutually beneficial manner even now."

78- OldCSMAer: "What's he been doing? Am I going to be sorry I
killfiled him?"

79- OldSage: "What drives me nuts is your unrelenting ability and
desire to argue on the head of a pin about the most trivial of
things."

80- Oxford: "If you are using MT-Newswatcher:
Select offending Author, example Snit...
Go to the Filters Menu, Choose "Kill this Author"
Click "OK"
Then Repeat with each annoying Author of your choice.
Then to see your work...
Choose the Filter Menu again,
Then "Refilter Articles"...
Bam! No more boring, pointless bickering about nothing.
Enjoy!!!!!"

81- Patrick Nihill: "I mean, honestly, who would you rather
discuss something with; Dan, or someone like Zara? Or, for that
matter, Snit, for whom the work 'troll' seems so painfully
inadequate?"

82- Pawel Wojciak: "Jesus Christ, snit... <plonk> "

83- PC Guy: "Forget it Snit, you're a waste of time. For someone
who talks about everyone else not being "honest and honorable"
you appear to be the least honest and honorable of anyone here."

84- Peter: "I've never felt the need to use the filters in
Newswatcher but I thought Id try the Kill this Author.. option
with Snit. Ten seconds later and he's gone! Amazing."

85- Peter Bjorn Perlso: "Plonked for 60 days. Now stfu and take
your argument with sandman into the private room."

86- Peter Hayes: "True, but that removes Snit completely, and
someti... err..... occasiona.... errrrr..... once in a blue moon
he has something useful to say."

87- Peter Jensen (cola): "Where has he ever said that they were
not different windowing environments? Message-ID, please.
Experience has told me not to trust you on anything without
backing evidence."

88- Peter Kohlmann (cola): "Snot is a hideous troll. Nobody is as
dishonest as that piece of unadultered garbage. There are csma
posters even more stupid than Snot. Oxford comes to mind. There
are certainly other csma posters who lie nearly as much. But no
others are so intent on trolling in whatever way possible as Snot"

89- PeterBP: "Oh will you stfu".

90- Phil Earnhardt: "You're only interested in trying to get
superficial snipes and extrapolate inappropriate conclusions."

91- Rapskat (cola): "For instance, your sig you reference a long
standing war you have going with some person from csma. It's like
you single out persons to target your attentions upon and then
continuously berate them with constant barbs and goads to
perpetuate their acrimonious responses, which in turn you respond
in kind, etc. ad infinitum. Above all things, your affinity for
Macs and your overbearing pompous nature aside, this is what
convinces me that your primary purpose for frequenting this and
other groups is to troll." 07 Sep 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/a09c6b8e3e63f42d

92- RichardK: "Just killfile him already."

93- Rick (cola): "Snit, you are a liar. And an ignorant one. You
trash people that are trying their level best to cope with a
horrendous situation. And you do it without the slightest idea of
what is going on." 06 Sep 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/fcad2955ac5cb03b

94- Rick G.: "Just to be plain here, I have no doubt that he is a
troll. I am tolerant of his nature, not blind to it. However, as
a troll, he is ... somewhat clumsy."

95- Robert F.: "Um, perhaps you misunderstand. I don't care if
you quote Mayor McCheese claiming the Earth is a flat plate
perched on the shell of a tortoise, I was merely pointing out
that you run the risk of looking ridiculous when you quote
something patently stupid. If that's your goal, you're on the
right track, and more power to you."

96- RonB (COLA): "Snit is a crank fixated on one issue, who's
thing is twisting your words so he can win an argument against a
straw man. That's enough to killfile him." 1 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.usenet.kooks/msg/ce8550d4cc5b1b42

97- Roy Culley (cola): "You appear to be in the latter category.
Starting crossposted threads for the simple purpose of hoping to
generate a flame war. If you truly want to learn more about Linux
and how it can help you and your supposed users why aren't you
requesting help from a more technical Linux newsgroup than an
advocacy group? As the old saying goes, those who can do, those
who can't teach. Your posts seem to confirm that saying IMHO."
12 Mar 2005

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/d521a80051e24d08

98- S'mee (Keith, rec.motorcycles): "Liar...forger and worthless.
You must be related to our resident racist troll, he
lies as much as you." 29 Dec 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ab08c00330c8b58d

99- Sandman: "He is by far the most killfiled person in the
-HISTORY- of csma. I've never seen someone so disliked, almost
hated, in a news group before. He has the ability to turn just
about any person against him in just a few posts. On usenet,
trolls do this daily, but the funny part with Michael is that I
actually think he DOESN'T consider himself be a troll - damn what
-EVERYONE ELSE- is calling him. Obviously they are wrong. Only
Tholen himself can match this behaviour."

100- sav: "You really need to take a rest somewhere nice.
Honestly, even the nutters who hang out down on Brighton seafront
made more sense than this. You been doing drugs or something?"
25 May 2006

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/1b251baa5c641370

101- Sean Burke: If you're dumb enough to respond to snit, you're
probably dumb enough to click on a spam attachment that promises
to remove smut from your harddrive."

102- Sermo Malifer (COLA):
Snit: "Why do so many people in COLA argue *against* me..."
Sermo Malifer: "Because you're a narcissistic troll who posts
trash just to get people talking about you." 21 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5ddf14f502e9b3f1

103- spike1: "The thought is probably to show everyone here just
how bad a troll snit is".

104- ShutterBugz: "so snit-zel has some kind of problem
expressing anger, i guess. he has to vent his frustrations in
other ways. and he thinks he's making sense: well the syntax is
there and he figures he's pretty smart. indeed, he tells us, he's
done the personality tests and the iq tests and he's okay!
aaaaahhhhh, you see he's soooooooo well adjusted."

105- Steve Carroll: "The only things we are sure about Snit is
that he has:
* a monumental reading comprehension problem.
* nym-shifted numerous times to avoid kill-files.
* built too many straw-men to count... some, the size of small
cities.
* been labeled a disingenuous liar/troll(or worse) by the vast
majority.
* used numerous sock-puppets and admitted to it.
* stolen IDs and admitted to it.
* gotten booted off by ISPs for his behavior.
* twisted more context than all csma posters combined.
* made more unsupported accusations than all csma posters combined.
* virtually no life outside of csma."

106- Steve Mackay: "Just killfile Snit, the dishonest piece of
elephant dung, and all would go away. Sure, I got caught up in
the "Snit Circus", but then the cotton candy began to sour, and
CSMA begun to smell like elephant dung."

107- Steven de Mena: "Sorry, you have now lost all credibility
with me
for your rediculous argument regarding this."

108- Steve Travis: "Oh oh... Now look what we've done. Snit has
lost all self respect and has sunk to the point of using words
like 'asses' when referring to others. Oh, how could the morally
superior snit have fallen so low.. Please take a moment out of
your busy schedule to feel embarassed for him. Or perhaps we
should set up a fund to get him more happy glue (and the
appropriate plastic bags)."

109- Stuart Krivis: "You might as well just give up and plonk him
then. A snit is a snit is a snit and always will be."

110- Tattoo Vampire: "In other words, in another attempt to
troll, you made yourself look like a fool. Again".

111- The Lost Packet (COLA): "well, he's found a seat in my
killbin, I can't be doing with him." 27 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2007526a552b3322

112- TheLetterK: "That is merely your perception, Shit. You're
the one lacking counter evidence, and your arguments basically
amount to "I'm right, nya nya nya." No matter how many examples
someone points at to demonstrate their claim, you blindly
continue to insist that they provide no evidence, or that the
evidence given is irrelevant. Worse still, you fall back on straw
men and disingenuous quote mangling to portray the argument in
your favor. You are one of the worst trolls that inhabit CSMA,
Shit. *Edwin* is more prone to fits of reason than you are. "

113-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you
see, you never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really
are. Why just the other day I had a great laugh when I saw you,
the king of liars (in this NG anyway) calling somebody else a liar."

114- Tim Crowley: "I don't know - I think you might have more
compassion. Snit is sick. He needs help. This is the only way the
poor sick fool can get attention. My fucking God, he's taken to
hanging out with and supporting racist pig fuckers like MuahMuah.
It is true that no-one likes him and those that pretend they do
are just using him or don't know him - but come on- it's not his
fault. He's sick. Have some compassion, eh? All these idiot
trolls, Zara, Stew, Tommy, MuaaaahMuaaah, and Snit - they are all
so alike. I pity each and every one of them"

115- Tim Smith: "No, he didn't, and there is no reasonable way
you could actually believe he lied. You are purely trying to
troll here."

116- Timberwoof: "*Plonk!*"

117- Tom Bates: "Do you have to turn any thread you post in into
one of your Circus acts?"

118- Tommy: "In case you did not get it, I think the moral was:
Stop polluting the world with your infantile and obsessive
"writings". You give Mac advocacy a bad name. If that was your
goal you have succeeded! That also goes for all that bullshit on
your website"

119- TravelinMan: "I still can't figure out what's wrong with
Snit. Most people have him kill-filed and the few who don't
mostly restrict their responses to 'why don't you go away, no one
wants you here'. Just what would keep someone in this group with
all of that animosity? Must be some kind of severe mental illness."

120- Wally: "Because by your own admission "honor and honesty"
are nothing more than a "game" to you, as such not only do you
wish to define the rules, but no doubt you will also attempt to
alter or bend the rules when inevitably things do not go to your
liking, for this reason I doubt anyone would be foolish enough to
play your game."

121- WhoMe: "F michael IS a teacher, it's no wonder he's home
more than he's anywhere near a classroom".

122- William Poaster: "Good grief. If anyone's having a mental
breakdown it's the Prescott Computer Guy, Michael Snit Glasser.
What a f#cked up mess he is'.

123- William R. Walsh: "Now, if you'll excuse me, and accept my
sincere apologies for this, PLONK! Feel proud about that. You're
the first person to be plonked from my new computer! :-) "

124- Woofbert: "*Plonk*"

125- zara: "Look - I'm not into combing through thousands of
posts, to prove what was said or not said - I leave stuff like
that to people without lives, like Snit. But it is assuredly, in
the record. Ping Snit to do a search - you will flatter him, and
give meaning to his tawdry little life."

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/a1d4fc7120a6a538

126- Zaren Ankleweed: "And with that, Snit goes in the global
killfile. No subject, no author, no nothing. Buh-bye".

127- Znu: "I think your 'I'll go start a new thread to try to
draw more people into the debate I'm currently having with
Steve/Elizabot/etc' tactic is fairly trollish."

--
HPT

Snit

2009-04-04 15:31:43 UTC

To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only
format" is simply a myth.

The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS
Office.

That is not a myth. It is fact

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>

Check the files I used. Ray did. First he lied and claimed they were fine,
but he finally admitted they were not and even proved it by sending me his
output.

You simply cannot accept reality.

If that is good enough for your office, fine... but for most
businesses it is not.

The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue.

You are, and I am not kidding, mentally ill. For you to quote Steve
Carroll's fabricated and scavenged quotes and to think that says something
about me is literally insane. It does speak volumes about you and Carroll.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Doctor Smith

2009-04-04 16:56:54 UTC

To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only
format" is simply a myth.

The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS
Office.

That is not a myth. It is fact

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>

Check the files I used. Ray did. First he lied and claimed they were fine,
but he finally admitted they were not and even proved it by sending me his
output.
You simply cannot accept reality.

If that is good enough for your office, fine... but for most
businesses it is not.

The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue.

It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the problems.

Snit

2009-04-04 16:00:51 UTC

To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only
format" is simply a myth.

The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS
Office.

That is not a myth. It is fact

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>

Check the files I used. Ray did. First he lied and claimed they were fine,
but he finally admitted they were not and even proved it by sending me his
output.
You simply cannot accept reality.

If that is good enough for your office, fine... but for most
businesses it is not.

The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue.

It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.
I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the problems.

I do not care about his sexuality, but his taking offense at my giving
examples of OO dealing poorly with Word files is just bizarre. It would be
like me getting all bent out of shape and lashing out against someone if
they showed that Pages does not handle Word files as well as needed for many
businesses. It does not.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Doctor Smith

2009-04-04 17:02:15 UTC

To rephrase, "files must be shared in Office only
format" is simply a myth.

The myth is OpenOffice is a suitable replacement for MS
Office.

That is not a myth. It is fact

<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp/>
<http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/OfficeComp2/>

Check the files I used. Ray did. First he lied and claimed they were fine,
but he finally admitted they were not and even proved it by sending me his
output.
You simply cannot accept reality.

If that is good enough for your office, fine... but for most
businesses it is not.

The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue.

It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.
I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the problems.

Neither do I, however it seems to be a very *sore* point with him whenever
it is brought up.

Snit

2009-04-04 16:03:40 UTC

Post by Snit
You are, and I am not kidding, mentally ill. For you to quote Steve
Carroll's fabricated and scavenged quotes and to think that says something
about me is literally insane. It does speak volumes about you and Carroll.

It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.
I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the problems.

Neither do I, however it seems to be a very *sore* point with him whenever
it is brought up.

He takes offense at my proving OO deals with MS Word files poorly... seems
all of life is a "sort point" for him.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Road Glidin' Don

2009-04-04 17:31:28 UTC

Post by Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The ones
hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.

Snit

2009-04-04 17:41:11 UTC

Road Glidin' Don stated in post

Post by Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The ones
hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.

The weird thing... well, a weird thing... is that he keeps leaving the topic
of Linux / OSS (he knows he has no leg to stand on) and then insists that I
have done some irrelevant action which he can *never* quote... so he quotes
Steve Carroll's list of scavenged and fabricated quotes. I guess one good
thing about this is Steve Carroll is no doubt happy: he spend a *lot* of
work dredging up quotes all the way back to, I kid you not, 2004 (including
"quoting" his own sock puppets!) and must be pleased as punch to see other
trolls taking on the work he no longer can do now that his ISP dropped
Usenet access.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Road Glidin' Don

2009-04-05 00:36:52 UTC

Post by Snit
Road Glidin' Don stated in post

Post by Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The ones
hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.

Wow. That's sooooo important and interesting.

Doctor Smith

2009-04-05 01:46:56 UTC

Post by Snit
Road Glidin' Don stated in post

Post by Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The ones
hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.

Wow. That's sooooo important and interesting.

"Road Glidin' Don"?

LMAO!.....

Hadron

2009-04-05 03:43:19 UTC

Post by Snit
Road Glidin' Don stated in post

Post by Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The ones
hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.

Wow. That's sooooo important and interesting.

"Road Glidin' Don"?
LMAO!.....

LOL. Better watch he doesn't "bust a cap in your arse".

Here he is "gliding"

Loading Image...

--
In view of all the deadly computer viruses that have been spreading
lately, Weekend Update would like to remind you: when you link up to
another computer, you’re linking up to every computer that that
computer has ever linked up to. — Dennis Miller

Doctor Smith

2009-04-05 12:55:52 UTC

Post by Snit
Road Glidin' Don stated in post

Post by Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The ones
hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.

Wow. That's sooooo important and interesting.

"Road Glidin' Don"?
LMAO!.....

LOL. Better watch he doesn't "bust a cap in your arse".
Here he is "gliding"
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2098/1767526951_39ecd96358.jpg

Bwaaaaaaaa!

I'll bet he's been a "gliding" right on up the Hershey Highway if you get
my drift :)

Snit

2009-04-05 03:00:49 UTC

Road Glidin' Don stated in post

Post by Snit
Road Glidin' Don stated in post

Post by Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The ones
hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.

Wow. That's sooooo important and interesting.

Actually it is getting old. I wish people would talk about technology and
not do such absurd things.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Steve Carroll

2009-04-05 17:15:10 UTC

Post by Snit
Road Glidin' Don stated in post

Post by Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The ones
hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.

Wow. That's sooooo important and interesting.

Actually it is getting old. I wish people would talk about technology and
not do such absurd things.

Sure you do... and that's why out of the 30,000+ posts you have
written in csma alone only about 10 of them are "actually" dealing
with Mac advocacy. LOL!

I keep telling you, Snit... people just aren't as stupid as you need
them to be.

Chance Furlong

2009-04-05 18:44:35 UTC

In article

Sure you do, and that's why out of the 30,000+ posts you have
written in csma alone only about 10 of them are "actually" dealing
with Mac advocacy.
I keep telling you, Snit, people just aren't as stupid as you need them to be.

Steve, you should know by now that Snit begs for everyone's attention.

--
Apple über alles! Heil Steve Jobs!

Snit

2009-04-05 18:50:17 UTC

Chance Furlong stated in post

Post by Chance Furlong
In article

Steve, you should know by now that Snit begs for everyone's attention.

My preference is to have Steve Carroll and the other trolls never give me
*any* attention. Sandman and some other trolls agreed to stop begging for
my attention and for some time they did... and I loved it.

So, clearly, you are wrong.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Road Glidin' Don

2009-04-05 19:29:08 UTC

Post by Snit
Road Glidin' Don stated in post

Post by Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The ones
hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.

Wow. That's sooooo important and interesting.

Actually it is getting old. I wish people would talk about technology and
not do such absurd things.

Hold onto that useful thought next time, before you cross-post to a
motorcycle group in the hope anyone there gives a fuck. You seem to
have no idea of how childish it makes you appear.

Maybe get out from behind your computers a little more.

Snit

2009-04-05 19:33:03 UTC

Road Glidin' Don stated in post

Post by Snit
Road Glidin' Don stated in post

Post by Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The ones
hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.

Wow. That's sooooo important and interesting.

Actually it is getting old. I wish people would talk about technology and
not do such absurd things.

Hold onto that useful thought next time, before you cross-post to a
motorcycle group in the hope anyone there gives a fuck. You seem to
have no idea of how childish it makes you appear.
Maybe get out from behind your computers a little more.

I am not the one who cross posted, though I did reply to such posts.

But, yes, the issue that was being discussed is a geeky issue: about whether
desktop Linux users should or should not be given certain choices. I say
yes. Others say no. Sorry you were pushed into the middle.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Peter Köhlmann

2009-04-05 19:41:35 UTC

Road Glidin' Don wrote:

< snip >

Post by Snit
Actually it is getting old. I wish people would talk about technology
and not do such absurd things.

Hold onto that useful thought next time, before you cross-post to a
motorcycle group in the hope anyone there gives a fuck. You seem to
have no idea of how childish it makes you appear.

That was not Snot Glasser. It was flatfish (Gary Stewart) who did post as
"Doctor Smith". A usenet crank, a pathological liar (like Snit), a racist
and a software thief. Also a closet homosexual, hiding behind homophobic
rants

Post by Road Glidin' Don
Maybe get out from behind your computers a little more.

Snot Michael Glasser can't. He is trolling usenet 24/7.

He will snip everything if cornered with evidence and then insert his
bullshit, over and over again

--
It's sweet to be remembered, but it's often cheaper to be forgotten.

High Plains Thumper

2009-04-05 23:15:42 UTC

Post by Peter KÃ¶hlmann

Post by Road Glidin' Don
Maybe get out from behind your computers a little more.

Snot Michael Glasser can't. He is trolling usenet 24/7.
He will snip everything if cornered with evidence and then
insert his bullshit, over and over again

That's Snit's MO alright. Anyone who has trolled with him
knows it -- despite his lies (and his current sycophant,
Hadron's lies) it's what he always does.
But, he's also a crank. He can take any subject and turn it
back to his favorite crank subject without batting an eyelid
-- not very subtle about it either.
Someone -- "Birds fly north in the summer in the northern
hemisphere."
Snit -- "They fly north because they have a unified UI.
Whereas Linux uses "Quit" in some menus and "Exit" in
others..."

You are right, he turns the topic back to his agenda; it is all
about Snit.

That is why the CSMA Moderator started a listing of quoters, each
unique and specific on why Snit is so despised in multiple forums.

Here is the alphabetised list again, now up to 127 quoters, for
those interested:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8549a8118113c4bf

--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green

Snit

2009-04-06 02:29:15 UTC

Post by Peter KÃ¶hlmann

Post by Road Glidin' Don
Maybe get out from behind your computers a little more.

Snot Michael Glasser can't. He is trolling usenet 24/7.
He will snip everything if cornered with evidence and then
insert his bullshit, over and over again

You are right, he turns the topic back to his agenda; it is all
about Snit.

Hey, HPT, you were not even responding to me... or quotes by me. You
responded to RonB's lies.

Post by High Plains Thumper
That is why the CSMA Moderator started a listing of quoters, each
unique and specific on why Snit is so despised in multiple forums.
Here is the alphabetised list again, now up to 127 quoters, for
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8549a8118113c4bf

What about my advocacy of choice for desktop Linux users gets you so worked
up you spew BS like your above comments?

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Steve Carroll

2009-04-05 17:11:48 UTC

Post by Snit
Road Glidin' Don stated in post

Post by Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The ones
hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting the worst.

Wow. That's sooooo important and interesting.

It's also filled with lies.

High Plains Thumper

2009-04-06 04:19:26 UTC

Post by Doctor Smith
It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy
Toiletwater = George Hostler displays the classic
signs of a mentally ill person.

Losers resorting to spamming is a better indicator. The
ones hollering the loudest are always the ones hurting
the worst.

The weird thing... well, a weird thing... is that he keeps
leaving the topic of Linux / OSS (he knows he has no leg
to stand on) and then insists that I have done some
irrelevant action which he can *never* quote... so he
quotes Steve Carroll's list of scavenged and fabricated
quotes. I guess one good thing about this is Steve
Carroll is no doubt happy: he spend a *lot* of work
dredging up quotes all the way back to, I kid you not,
2004 (including "quoting" his own sock puppets!) and must
be pleased as punch to see other trolls taking on the work
he no longer can do now that his ISP dropped Usenet
access.

Wow. That's sooooo important and interesting.

It's also filled with lies.

It's 2 loser trolls, perpetual cagers. Afraid to leave their
keyboards to do something useful, worthwhile, smell the roses,
feel the wind through the hair, ride 'til the sun goes down.

Perhaps if they rode motorcycles, they would calm down. But then
I am being optimistic.

--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green

High Plains Thumper

2009-04-04 17:33:42 UTC

Post by High Plains Thumper
The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue. Now in
its second printing, alphabetised, here is what these 127
posters have to say about Snit: [...]

For the curious, see the following link for snipped info:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8549a8118113c4bf

Post by Snit
You are, and I am not kidding, mentally ill. For you to
quote Steve Carroll's fabricated and scavenged quotes and to
think that says something about me is literally insane. It
does speak volumes about you and Carroll.

It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy
Toiletwater = George Hostler displays the classic signs of a
mentally ill person.
I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
problems.

2 lying, worthless trolls. I just have this to say, I consider
this as personal libel, worthy of seeking legal action to include
requesting log in information from Motzarella.org and
Individual.net by legal counsel.

If such are receiving monetary or material incentive from
business to post such trash, those businesses incur the greater
legal liability.

These type posts have no place in Linux advocacy, MacIntosh
advocacy, nor recreational motorcycle riding, all a part of the
Usenet Big 8.

--
HPT

Snit

2009-04-04 17:53:15 UTC

High Plains Thumper stated in post gr85lo$9ba$***@news.albasani.net on 4/4/09
10:33 AM:

...

Post by Doctor Smith
I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
problems.

I am glad you see publicly posted accusations in such a light. Here are
some of the messages where you have posted outrageous accusations against
me:

gr7tjo$r3e$***@news.albasani.net
gr6c6o$l1p$***@news.albasani.net
gr22gm$h1f$***@news.albasani.net
49d43a6e$0$3340$***@read.cnntp.org
2a73d02b-86ae-4afa-a521-***@z15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com
49c6ff23$0$3338$***@read.cnntp.org
gp1dfi$6k8$***@news.albasani.net

And on and on and on... time after time again you openly lie about me,
publicly accuse me of dishonest without *ever* offering a single example,
insist the fact I noted a quote I provided was accurate somehow proves I
used socks, and on and on.

Now you are whining because someone figured out your sexuality and posted it
before you were ready to "come out", or perhaps even made up something about
you that you find offensive. Poor you! I do not condone such behavior, but
what an amazing hypocrite you are to whine about it.

If you really do try to take this to court, which - face it - you have no
intention of doing, I will happy provide the court with as many posts of
yours as I can where you directly target me and then another stack where you
target Doctor Smith with your public comments. Let me be very, very clear:
I will not make up a single claim about you nor exaggerate any fact, I shall
simply print up your own words where you clearly do as I say above.

Good luck with your case!

Post by High Plains Thumper
If such are receiving monetary or material incentive from
business to post such trash, those businesses incur the greater
legal liability.

What?

Post by High Plains Thumper
These type posts have no place in Linux advocacy, MacIntosh
advocacy, nor recreational motorcycle riding, all a part of the
Usenet Big 8.

So why do you think it is fine to lie about me... recently merely because I
pointed out a weakness of OpenOffice.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Doctor Smith

2009-04-04 18:55:09 UTC

Post by High Plains Thumper
The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue. Now in
its second printing, alphabetised, here is what these 127
posters have to say about Snit: [...]

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8549a8118113c4bf

Post by Snit
You are, and I am not kidding, mentally ill. For you to
quote Steve Carroll's fabricated and scavenged quotes and to
think that says something about me is literally insane. It
does speak volumes about you and Carroll.

It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy
Toiletwater = George Hostler displays the classic signs of a
mentally ill person.
I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
problems.

Poor baby....
Wawawawawawawawawawawawawawa I want my baba...

Post by High Plains Thumper
If such are receiving monetary or material incentive from
business to post such trash, those businesses incur the greater
legal liability.

Don't you know?
We are all employed by Microsoft.
I though you knew that?

BWaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Post by High Plains Thumper
These type posts have no place in Linux advocacy, MacIntosh
advocacy, nor recreational motorcycle riding, all a part of the
Usenet Big 8.

*YOU* have no place in an advocacy group High Plains Thumper because you
rarely advocate.

What you do is libel other people via your colatrolls blog spam and then
when they give you a little of your own medicine you go crying like a baby
who want's his mother's tit.

If you can't take the heat Wendy, then get out of the kitchen and go clean
the living room or something.

Geeeeezzzz what a child.

Snit

2009-04-04 18:56:49 UTC

Post by High Plains Thumper
The Snit Circus of Pathological Myths continue. Now in
its second printing, alphabetised, here is what these 127
posters have to say about Snit: [...]

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8549a8118113c4bf

Post by Snit
You are, and I am not kidding, mentally ill. For you to
quote Steve Carroll's fabricated and scavenged quotes and to
think that says something about me is literally insane. It
does speak volumes about you and Carroll.

It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy
Toiletwater = George Hostler displays the classic signs of a
mentally ill person.
I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
problems.

Poor baby....
Wawawawawawawawawawawawawawa I want my baba...

Post by High Plains Thumper
If such are receiving monetary or material incentive from
business to post such trash, those businesses incur the greater
legal liability.

Don't you know?
We are all employed by Microsoft.
I though you knew that?
BWaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Post by High Plains Thumper
These type posts have no place in Linux advocacy, MacIntosh
advocacy, nor recreational motorcycle riding, all a part of the
Usenet Big 8.

*YOU* have no place in an advocacy group High Plains Thumper because you
rarely advocate.
What you do is libel other people via your colatrolls blog spam and then
when they give you a little of your own medicine you go crying like a baby
who want's his mother's tit.
If you can't take the heat Wendy, then get out of the kitchen and go clean
the living room or something.
Geeeeezzzz what a child.

I just posted a number of his recent message IDs where he libeled me and
even targeted my professional life in reprehensible ways. The fact is he
has no desire to take you to court, but if for some reason he pushes his own
back against the wall hard enough where he feels he needs to do so, I will
be happy to find those documents and provide direct links to Google or other
archives to prove a lack of tampering.

In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult. I do not
think comments should be targeted in such a way, for what it is worth, but
given his easily proved behavior, that continues even today, I have *no*
sympathy for him. He is a hypocrite whining because he got a very, very
small taste of what he dishes out.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Wally

2009-04-05 00:07:07 UTC

Post by Snit
In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult.

Those are the only two alternatives possible Snit? ... How amazingly
ignorant of you Snit! really!

Post by Snit
I do not think comments should be targeted in such a way,

How would you have targeted such speculation Snit? ... Do tell!

Snit aligning himself with a person that link's mental illness with latent
homosexuality ... Good grief, do they still have the 'Ducking stool' in
Prescott too?

"It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.

I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
problems."-Doctor Smith

Could this be a sign that Snit accepts that his own latent homosexuality may
be a factor regarding the mental problems that he has claimed that he has
had to endure?

Or is this no more than a classic example of Snit's hypocrisy and or of the
ever present slipping of reality from Snit's fragile grasp?

Tim Adams

2009-04-05 02:02:39 UTC

Post by Snit
In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult.

Those are the only two alternatives possible Snit? ... How amazingly
ignorant of you Snit! really!

Post by Snit
I do not think comments should be targeted in such a way,

How would you have targeted such speculation Snit? ... Do tell!
Snit aligning himself with a person that link's mental illness with latent
homosexuality ... Good grief, do they still have the 'Ducking stool' in
Prescott too?
"It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.
I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
problems."-Doctor Smith
Could this be a sign that Snit accepts that his own latent homosexuality may
be a factor regarding the mental problems that he has claimed that he has
had to endure?
Or is this no more than a classic example of Snit's hypocrisy and or of the
ever present slipping of reality from Snit's fragile grasp?

michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted links to some of High
Plains Thumper's posts that michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael
glasser apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T libel.

You might also note that once again, without fail, michael glasser tries to
start up his shit circus.

--
regarding Snit "You are not flamed because you speak the truth,
you are flamed because you are a hideous troll and keep disrupting
the newsgroup." Andrew J. Brehm

RonB

2009-04-05 02:07:04 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted links to some of High
Plains Thumper's posts that michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael
glasser apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T libel.
You might also note that once again, without fail, michael glasser tries to
start up his shit circus.

That's what trolls do.

--
RonB
"There's a story there...somewhere"

Snit

2009-04-05 03:30:25 UTC

That's what trolls do.

Tim Adams is a troll so he lies.

You are a troll so you pretend to agree.

Neither of you, of course, are willing to discuss *topics*, all you are
willing to do is lash out against people and hope to change the topic to
them defending themselves.

You, RonB, refuse to talk about Linux... you humiliated yourself when you
made clearly and obviously false claims about CentOS.

But that is better than Tim Adams: he humiliated himself by not just saying
that incest, to him, is *identical* to sex, but when I suggested he had
worded something poorly he *insisted* he meant what he said - he really
insists he is a pervert.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Wally

2009-04-05 08:23:00 UTC

That's what trolls do.

Tim Adams is a troll so he lies.
You are a troll so you pretend to agree.
Neither of you, of course, are willing to discuss *topics*, all you are
willing to do is lash out against people .....

"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit

Irony and hypocrisy ... The two things that Snit can be relied upon to do
automatically!

High Plains Thumper

2009-04-05 11:02:55 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
libel.

Here is a classic Snit statement:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2048009d216216b5

Snit: "Now you are whining because someone figured out your
sexuality and posted it before you were ready to "come out", or
perhaps even made up something about you that you find offensive.
Poor you! I do not condone such behavior, but what an amazing
hypocrite you are to whine about it."

Snit supports Doctor Smith (Gary M. Stewart AKA Flatfish) in his
libel by libelling me.

Continuation of the Snit Kangaroo Court:

Snit: "If you really do try to take this to court, which - face
it - you have no intention of doing, I will happy provide the
court with as many posts of yours as I can where you directly
target me and then another stack where you target Doctor Smith
with your public comments. Let me be very, very clear: I will
not make up a single claim about you nor exaggerate any fact, I
shall simply print up your own words where you clearly do as I
say above. Good luck with your case!"

Tim, you are correct, expression of the truth is not libel, but
Snit has little understanding of what the truth is.

Post by Tim Adams
You might also note that once again, without fail,
michael glasser tries to start up his shit circus.

That's what trolls do.

Tim Adams is a troll so he lies. You are a troll so you
pretend to agree. Neither of you, of course, are willing to
discuss *topics*, all you are willing to do is lash out
against people .....

Following statement made 4-1/2 years ago still rings true:

113-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you
see, you never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really
are. Why just the other day I had a great laugh when I saw you,
the king of liars (in this NG anyway) calling somebody else a
liar." 13 Nov 2004

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c7f9407179ff2a

Post by Wally
"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is
embarrassed you outted him or he is not gay and takes the
claim as an insult."-Snit

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3b6afa8eacc65cf0

Post by Wally
Irony and hypocrisy ... The two things that Snit can be relied
upon to do automatically!

He is an out and out liar, plain and simple. I find this quote
most apt:

22- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest
and honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the
biggest liar in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove
Snit was using sock puppets and he still is. Snit can not give
up his socks puppets and shills. They are the only ones who ever
support him." 28 Jan 2009

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229

His supporting Doctor Smith (Gary M. Stewart AKA Flatfish) with
his libelous statements makes him an ironic hypocrite.

But here is a case of illiteracy, William Poaster and I are 2
different people:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ed9124f54bbf3959

Subject: Re: OO deals poorly with Word files: HPT flips out. Why?
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:19:30 -0700
Message-ID: <C5FCD6A2.27720%***@gallopinginsanity.com>

Snit: "I would not be surprised to find HPT and Poaster are the
same person... they do share some 'tells'."

He accuses me of changing the subject in:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/458e1e0b1a1916f9

Snit: "I just noticed you changed the subject line [...]
Seriously, what is wrong with you?"

Snit changed the subject to: "OO deals poorly with Word files:
HPT flips out. Why?"

So, it is not okay for me to do it, but it is perfectly good for
him to do it. That is called, "hypocrisy".

--
HPT
127 observer quotes on the Snit Circus of Pathological Lies:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8549a8118113c4bf

John

2009-04-05 11:08:56 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
libel.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/2048009d216216b5
Snit: "Now you are whining because someone figured out your
sexuality and posted it before you were ready to "come out", or
perhaps even made up something about you that you find offensive.
Poor you! I do not condone such behavior, but what an amazing
hypocrite you are to whine about it."
Snit supports Doctor Smith (Gary M. Stewart AKA Flatfish) in his
libel by libelling me.
Snit: "If you really do try to take this to court, which - face
it - you have no intention of doing, I will happy provide the
court with as many posts of yours as I can where you directly
target me and then another stack where you target Doctor Smith
with your public comments. Let me be very, very clear: I will
not make up a single claim about you nor exaggerate any fact, I
shall simply print up your own words where you clearly do as I
say above. Good luck with your case!"
Tim, you are correct, expression of the truth is not libel, but
Snit has little understanding of what the truth is.

Post by Tim Adams
You might also note that once again, without fail,
michael glasser tries to start up his shit circus.

That's what trolls do.

Tim Adams is a troll so he lies. You are a troll so you
pretend to agree. Neither of you, of course, are willing to
discuss *topics*, all you are willing to do is lash out
against people .....

113-Tim Adams: "I'd kill file you but then I'd miss the fun. you
see, you never cease to amaze me at just how stupid you really
are. Why just the other day I had a great laugh when I saw you,
the king of liars (in this NG anyway) calling somebody else a
liar." 13 Nov 2004
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/40c7f9407179ff2a

Post by Wally
"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is
embarrassed you outted him or he is not gay and takes the
claim as an insult."-Snit

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3b6afa8eacc65cf0

Post by Wally
Irony and hypocrisy ... The two things that Snit can be relied
upon to do automatically!

He is an out and out liar, plain and simple. I find this quote
22- Edward Stanfield: "Snit thinks the rules that apply to honest
and honorable people apply to him. That is absurd. He is the
biggest liar in Usenet history. Mackay posted the email to prove
Snit was using sock puppets and he still is. Snit can not give
up his socks puppets and shills. They are the only ones who ever
support him." 28 Jan 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/5b52494d96d12229
His supporting Doctor Smith (Gary M. Stewart AKA Flatfish) with
his libelous statements makes him an ironic hypocrite.
But here is a case of illiteracy, William Poaster and I are 2
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/ed9124f54bbf3959
Subject: Re: OO deals poorly with Word files: HPT flips out. Why?
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:19:30 -0700
Snit: "I would not be surprised to find HPT and Poaster are the
same person... they do share some 'tells'."
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/458e1e0b1a1916f9
Snit: "I just noticed you changed the subject line [...]
Seriously, what is wrong with you?"
HPT flips out. Why?"
So, it is not okay for me to do it, but it is perfectly good for
him to do it. That is called, "hypocrisy".
--
HPT
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/8549a8118113c4bf

Is that you Steve? You sound crazier than ever!!

Snit

2009-04-05 14:16:43 UTC

...

Post by John
Is that you Steve? You sound crazier than ever!!

HPT spread his debate with me in COLA to other forums... it started when he
was offended that I noted desktop Linux users would benefit from having
*more* choices, specifically choices that allowed them to have a consistent
and well thought out UI across their whole system. I gave examples of the
choice to select Save dialogs and Print dialogs, color selectors and text
services, common menu items and common hot keys... things of that nature.

I made it clear that this should not be forced on a user: there was some
concern, for example, that people might want different dictionaries in
different programs. I advocated for not a single reduction in choice or
freedom.

HPT and other Linux "advocates" do not want this. They do not understand
why a consistent and well designed UI is better - even though I have pointed
them to studies and expert opinion and industry standards bodies that all
support this. I have even pointed them to multiple OSS project's
documentation and key player commentary which support it - projects such as
KDE, Gnome, Firefox, OpenOffice, and Ubuntu. Very big projects. Very well
respected projects.

But while HPT and others have used "choice" as a mantra, they do not really
believe in it. They do not want choices that clearly would benefit users...
they want the Linux desktop to *not* be consistent... they want it to be a
mish mash of poorly followed and competing standards.

But they cannot defend why. They cannot defend the value of this. They
cannot say why *others* should not have the choice to have what they do not
understand.

So they lash out. They lie. They quote Steve Carroll's list of scavenged
and forged quotes - the quotes he has been digging up and making up since
2004 when he blames me for his girlfriend dumping him and when he freaked
out over my noting well supported and defended facts about George W. Bush.

So, no, HPT is not Steve Carroll: but he is cut from the same cloth (though,
presumably, five years from now he will not still be crying over the
"wrongs" he thinks he has suffered now - that is uniquely Carroll).

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Steve Carroll

2009-04-05 17:24:39 UTC

Post by Snit
...

Is that you Steve? You sound crazier than ever!!

HPT spread his debate with me in COLA to other forums... it started when he
was offended that I noted desktop Linux users would benefit from having
*more* choices, specifically choices that allowed them to have a consistent
and well thought out UI across their whole system. I gave examples of the
choice to select Save dialogs and Print dialogs, color selectors and text
services, common menu items and common hot keys... things of that nature.
I made it clear that this should not be forced on a user: there was some
concern, for example, that people might want different dictionaries in
different programs. I advocated for not a single reduction in choice or
freedom.
HPT and other Linux "advocates" do not want this. They do not understand
why a consistent and well designed UI is better - even though I have pointed
them to studies and expert opinion and industry standards bodies that all
support this. I have even pointed them to multiple OSS project's
documentation and key player commentary which support it - projects such as
KDE, Gnome, Firefox, OpenOffice, and Ubuntu. Very big projects. Very well
respected projects.
But while HPT and others have used "choice" as a mantra, they do not really
believe in it. They do not want choices that clearly would benefit users...
they want the Linux desktop to *not* be consistent... they want it to be a
mish mash of poorly followed and competing standards.
But they cannot defend why. They cannot defend the value of this. They
cannot say why *others* should not have the choice to have what they do not
understand.
So they lash out. They lie. They quote Steve Carroll's list of scavenged
and forged quotes - the quotes he has been digging up and making up since
2004 when he blames me for his girlfriend dumping him and when he freaked
out over my noting well supported and defended facts about George W. Bush.
So, no, HPT is not Steve Carroll: but he is cut from the same cloth (though,
presumably, five years from now he will not still be crying over the
"wrongs" he thinks he has suffered now - that is uniquely Carroll).

Whined the hypocritical liar named Snit about the "wrongs" he thinks
he has suffered now;)

Irony and hypocrisy... Wally called it perfectly. LOL!

High Plains Thumper

2009-04-05 23:31:40 UTC

Post by John
Is that you Steve? You sound crazier than ever!!

No, it was a another Snit lie. He doctored up his own GUI
evidence and presented it as truth, which I could not duplicate
in Linux. I commented on it and the worthless little tramp of a
troll starts his twisted whining about how wrong I am.

Post by Snit
there was some concern, for example, that people might want
different dictionaries in different programs. I advocated
for not a single reduction in choice or freedom.

No, a continuation of Snit lies. One thing is for sure, he is no
advocate, neither of Macs, nor Linux, nor any forum he happens upon.

Post by Snit
HPT and other Linux "advocates" do not want this. They do
not understand why a consistent and well designed UI is
better - even though I have pointed them to studies and
expert opinion and industry standards bodies that all
support this. I have even pointed them to multiple OSS
project's documentation and key player commentary which
support it - projects such as KDE, Gnome, Firefox,
OpenOffice, and Ubuntu. Very big projects. Very well
respected projects.

The stupid, ignorant perp continues his myths. He is provoking
enought to cause one to put together evidence of his trolling and
forward it to the Dean of Yavapai College, to show what an
outstanding member of academia he is.

Post by Snit
But while HPT and others have used "choice" as a mantra,
they do not really believe in it. They do not want choices
that clearly would benefit users... they want the Linux
desktop to *not* be consistent... they want it to be a mish
mash of poorly followed and competing standards.

Whine, whine, cry, cry.

Post by Snit
But they cannot defend why. They cannot defend the value of
this. They cannot say why *others* should not have the
choice to have what they do not understand.

Bull.

Post by Snit
So they lash out. They lie. They quote Steve Carroll's
list of scavenged and forged quotes - the quotes he has been
digging up and making up since 2004 when he blames me for
his girlfriend dumping him and when he freaked out over my
noting well supported and defended facts about George W.
Bush.

Lie. Here we go again, what does so called alledged comments
about Steve Carroll's girlfriend or George Bush have to do with
Linux or Mac Advocacy?

Post by Snit
So, no, HPT is not Steve Carroll: but he is cut from the
same cloth (though, presumably, five years from now he will
not still be crying over the "wrongs" he thinks he has
suffered now - that is uniquely Carroll).

There's no crying, we have the same goal. Stop trashing the
computer advocacy groups of his senseless drivel.

Post by Steve Carroll
Whined the hypocritical liar named Snit about the "wrongs" he
thinks he has suffered now;)
Irony and hypocrisy... Wally called it perfectly. LOL!

Yes, Wally indeed did. I am surprised that Snit's socks
Thundercleets or Rhino Plastee have not responded yet, LOL!

--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green

Steve Carroll

2009-04-05 23:37:43 UTC

On Apr 5, 5:31 pm, High Plains Thumper

Is that you Steve? You sound crazier than ever!!

Post by Snit
there was some concern, for example, that people might want
different dictionaries in different programs. I advocated
for not a single reduction in choice or freedom.

No, a continuation of Snit lies. One thing is for sure, he is no
advocate, neither of Macs, nor Linux, nor any forum he happens upon.

I can remember when Snit used to talk about his 'students' and how he
would point out to them what 'fools' he thought the people in csma
were. Amazingly (I'm sure the Dean would be amazed) he even claimed to
have spent time showing his students posts from csma so they could see
for themselves. It's a sure bet that Snit showed them only what he
wanted them to see and that was accompanied by his usual editorial
(you've seen plenty of those by now;).

Whine, whine, cry, cry.

Post by Snit
But they cannot defend why. They cannot defend the value of
this. They cannot say why *others* should not have the
choice to have what they do not understand.

Bull.

Lie. Here we go again, what does so called alledged comments
about Steve Carroll's girlfriend or George Bush have to do with
Linux or Mac Advocacy?

There's no crying, we have the same goal. Stop trashing the
computer advocacy groups of his senseless drivel.

Post by Steve Carroll
Whined the hypocritical liar named Snit about the "wrongs" he
thinks he has suffered now;)
Irony and hypocrisy... Wally called it perfectly. LOL!

Yes, Wally indeed did. I am surprised that Snit's socks
Thundercleets or Rhino Plastee have not responded yet, LOL!
--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green

High Plains Thumper

2009-04-06 00:16:26 UTC

Post by Snit
HPT spread his debate with me in COLA to other forums...
it started when he was offended that I noted desktop
Linux users would benefit from having *more* choices,
specifically choices that allowed them to have a
consistent and well thought out UI across their whole
system. I gave examples of the choice to select Save
dialogs and Print dialogs, color selectors and text
services, common menu items and common hot keys...
things of that nature.

No, it was a another Snit lie. He doctored up his own GUI
evidence and presented it as truth, which I could not
duplicate in Linux. I commented on it and the worthless
little tramp of a troll starts his twisted whining about how
wrong I am.

Post by Snit
I made it clear that this should not be forced on a
user: there was some concern, for example, that people
might want different dictionaries in different programs.
I advocated for not a single reduction in choice or
freedom.

No, a continuation of Snit lies. One thing is for sure, he
is no advocate, neither of Macs, nor Linux, nor any forum he
happens upon.

Post by Snit
HPT and other Linux "advocates" do not want this. They
do not understand why a consistent and well designed UI
is better - even though I have pointed them to studies
and expert opinion and industry standards bodies that
all support this. I have even pointed them to multiple
OSS project's documentation and key player commentary
which support it - projects such as KDE, Gnome, Firefox,
OpenOffice, and Ubuntu. Very big projects. Very well
respected projects.

The stupid, ignorant perp continues his myths. He is
provoking enought to cause one to put together evidence of
his trolling and forward it to the Dean of Yavapai College,
to show what an outstanding member of academia he is.

I can remember when Snit used to talk about his 'students' and
how he would point out to them what 'fools' he thought the
people in csma were. Amazingly (I'm sure the Dean would be
amazed) he even claimed to have spent time showing his
students posts from csma so they could see for themselves.
It's a sure bet that Snit showed them only what he wanted them
to see and that was accompanied by his usual editorial (you've
seen plenty of those by now;).

If he really did that, I could imagine the students one-by-one
going back home, doing a web search on Michael Glasser, having a
deep belly laugh about their teacher. As William Poaster said:

28- Geoff M. Fitton (COLA): "The Prescott Computer Guy *still*
showing how stupid he is... What a mar00n". 30 Aug 2008

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f9401b4b57c59865

--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green

Steve Carroll

2009-04-06 00:22:32 UTC

On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, High Plains Thumper

No, it was a another Snit lie. He doctored up his own GUI
evidence and presented it as truth, which I could not
duplicate in Linux. I commented on it and the worthless
little tramp of a troll starts his twisted whining about how
wrong I am.

No, a continuation of Snit lies. One thing is for sure, he
is no advocate, neither of Macs, nor Linux, nor any forum he
happens upon.

Post by Snit
HPT and other Linux "advocates" do not want this. They
do not understand why a consistent and well designed UI
is better - even though I have pointed them to studies
and expert opinion and industry standards bodies that
all support this. I have even pointed them to multiple
OSS project's documentation and key player commentary
which support it - projects such as KDE, Gnome, Firefox,
OpenOffice, and Ubuntu. Very big projects. Very well
respected projects.

The stupid, ignorant perp continues his myths. He is
provoking enought to cause one to put together evidence of
his trolling and forward it to the Dean of Yavapai College,
to show what an outstanding member of academia he is.

I can remember when Snit used to talk about his 'students' and
how he would point out to them what 'fools' he thought the
people in csma were. Amazingly (I'm sure the Dean would be
amazed) he even claimed to have spent time showing his
students posts from csma so they could see for themselves.
It's a sure bet that Snit showed them only what he wanted them
to see and that was accompanied by his usual editorial (you've
seen plenty of those by now;).

If he really did that, I could imagine the students one-by-one
going back home, doing a web search on Michael Glasser, having a
28- Geoff M. Fitton (COLA): "The Prescott Computer Guy *still*
showing how stupid he is... What a mar00n". 30 Aug 2008
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f9401b4b57c...

This brings to mind a funny story about the RateMyProfessor site I
pointed to regarding Snit recently. Right on cue, literally just after
I pointed to it, Snit had 3 ratings all of a sudden (whereas he hadn't
had one before or since):

http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1163496

It's quite obvious he's still talking with *some* of his "students"
about csma;)

Steve de Mena

2009-04-06 00:52:03 UTC

On Apr 5, 6:16 pm, High Plains Thumper

No, it was a another Snit lie. He doctored up his own GUI
evidence and presented it as truth, which I could not
duplicate in Linux. I commented on it and the worthless
little tramp of a troll starts his twisted whining about how
wrong I am.

No, a continuation of Snit lies. One thing is for sure, he
is no advocate, neither of Macs, nor Linux, nor any forum he
happens upon.

Post by Snit
HPT and other Linux "advocates" do not want this. They
do not understand why a consistent and well designed UI
is better - even though I have pointed them to studies
and expert opinion and industry standards bodies that
all support this. I have even pointed them to multiple
OSS project's documentation and key player commentary
which support it - projects such as KDE, Gnome, Firefox,
OpenOffice, and Ubuntu. Very big projects. Very well
respected projects.

The stupid, ignorant perp continues his myths. He is
provoking enought to cause one to put together evidence of
his trolling and forward it to the Dean of Yavapai College,
to show what an outstanding member of academia he is.

I can remember when Snit used to talk about his 'students' and
how he would point out to them what 'fools' he thought the
people in csma were. Amazingly (I'm sure the Dean would be
amazed) he even claimed to have spent time showing his
students posts from csma so they could see for themselves.
It's a sure bet that Snit showed them only what he wanted them
to see and that was accompanied by his usual editorial (you've
seen plenty of those by now;).

This brings to mind a funny story about the RateMyProfessor site I
pointed to regarding Snit recently. Right on cue, literally just after
I pointed to it, Snit had 3 ratings all of a sudden (whereas he hadn't
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1163496
It's quite obvious he's still talking with *some* of his "students"
about csma;)

Sorry, it's not a funny story. It has nothing to do with Macs.

Steve

Snit

2009-04-06 02:12:20 UTC

Post by Steve de Mena

Post by High Plains Thumper
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/f9401b4b57c...

This brings to mind a funny story about the RateMyProfessor site I
pointed to regarding Snit recently. Right on cue, literally just after
I pointed to it, Snit had 3 ratings all of a sudden (whereas he hadn't
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=1163496
It's quite obvious he's still talking with *some* of his "students"
about csma;)

Sorry, it's not a funny story. It has nothing to do with Macs.
Steve

Carroll has been spewing such BS ever since 2004 when he blamed me for his
girlfriend dumping him. Seriously. He needs to get over it and move on.

Oh, and what does Steve find odd about students posting to RateMyProfessor
shortly after a semester ends?

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Snit

2009-04-06 02:27:55 UTC

Post by John
Is that you Steve? You sound crazier than ever!!

No, it was a another Snit lie. He doctored up his own GUI
evidence

Ok, once and for all try to back your libelous statements up.

But you will not. You whine and threaten to sue others when they talk about
your sexuality, but here you are openly libeling me. How dare you! What a
hypocrite you are.

Post by High Plains Thumper
and presented it as truth, which I could not duplicate
in Linux.

What you claim to be able to duplicate is irrelevant. You just committed
libel. You whine and whine and whine... but then you turn around and commit
libel.

Post by High Plains Thumper
I commented on it and the worthless little tramp of a
troll starts his twisted whining about how wrong I am.

And here you are name calling... after you commit libel!

Post by Snit
there was some concern, for example, that people might want
different dictionaries in different programs. I advocated
for not a single reduction in choice or freedom.

No, a continuation of Snit lies. One thing is for sure, he is no
advocate, neither of Macs, nor Linux, nor any forum he happens upon.

More lies from you. How dare you.

Now *that* is just repulsive of you. You are against me views of choice for
Linux users so you want to mail deans of colleges!

What the heck is wrong with you?

Whine, whine, cry, cry.

You are the one committing libel and threatening to send your lies to
college deans.

All because you do not want desktop Linux users to have *choice*.

You are beyond despicable.

Post by Snit
But they cannot defend why. They cannot defend the value of
this. They cannot say why *others* should not have the
choice to have what they do not understand.

Bull.

So do you now agree with me that desktop users should have the choices I
have been talking about?

Lie. Here we go again, what does so called alledged comments
about Steve Carroll's girlfriend or George Bush have to do with
Linux or Mac Advocacy?

You, not I, are the one who repeatedly quotes Steve Carroll's hate-induced
and lie-filled BS. But you whine when I call you on it.

Go cry to someone else who cares.

There's no crying, we have the same goal. Stop trashing the
computer advocacy groups of his senseless drivel.

Gee: wanting users to have *choice* is such an awful thing... to you the
mere mentioning of the idea is "trashing" the group.

Post by Steve Carroll
Whined the hypocritical liar named Snit about the "wrongs" he
thinks he has suffered now;)
Irony and hypocrisy... Wally called it perfectly. LOL!

Yes, Wally indeed did. I am surprised that Snit's socks
Thundercleets or Rhino Plastee have not responded yet, LOL!

More of your libel. If I were you I would be threatening a law suit.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Snit

2009-04-06 02:32:46 UTC

Post by John
Is that you Steve? You sound crazier than ever!!

No, it was a another Snit lie. He doctored up his own GUI
evidence

Post by High Plains Thumper
and presented it as truth, which I could not duplicate
in Linux.

What you claim to be able to duplicate is irrelevant. You just committed
libel. You whine and whine and whine... but then you turn around and commit
libel.

Post by High Plains Thumper
I commented on it and the worthless little tramp of a
troll starts his twisted whining about how wrong I am.

And here you are name calling... after you commit libel!

Post by Snit
there was some concern, for example, that people might want
different dictionaries in different programs. I advocated
for not a single reduction in choice or freedom.

No, a continuation of Snit lies. One thing is for sure, he is no
advocate, neither of Macs, nor Linux, nor any forum he happens upon.

More lies from you. How dare you.

Now *that* is just repulsive of you. You are against me views of choice for
Linux users so you want to mail deans of colleges!

What the heck is wrong with you?

Whine, whine, cry, cry.

You are the one committing libel and threatening to send your lies to
college deans.

All because you do not want desktop Linux users to have *choice*.

You are beyond despicable.

Post by Snit
But they cannot defend why. They cannot defend the value of
this. They cannot say why *others* should not have the
choice to have what they do not understand.

Bull.

So do you now agree with me that desktop users should have the choices I
have been talking about?

Lie. Here we go again, what does so called alledged comments
about Steve Carroll's girlfriend or George Bush have to do with
Linux or Mac Advocacy?

You, not I, are the one who repeatedly quotes Steve Carroll's hate-induced
and lie-filled BS. But you whine when I call you on it.

Go cry to someone else who cares.

There's no crying, we have the same goal. Stop trashing the
computer advocacy groups of his senseless drivel.

Gee: wanting users to have *choice* is such an awful thing... to you the
mere mentioning of the idea is "trashing" the group.

Post by Steve Carroll
Whined the hypocritical liar named Snit about the "wrongs" he
thinks he has suffered now;)
Irony and hypocrisy... Wally called it perfectly. LOL!

Yes, Wally indeed did. I am surprised that Snit's socks
Thundercleets or Rhino Plastee have not responded yet, LOL!

More of your libel. If I were you I would be threatening a law suit.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Hadron

2009-04-06 12:01:16 UTC

Post by John
Is that you Steve? You sound crazier than ever!!

No, it was a another Snit lie. He doctored up his own GUI
evidence

Ok, once and for all try to back your libelous statements up.
But you will not. You whine and threaten to sue others when they talk about
your sexuality, but here you are openly libeling me. How dare you! What a
hypocrite you are.

Post by High Plains Thumper
and presented it as truth, which I could not duplicate
in Linux.

What you claim to be able to duplicate is irrelevant. You just committed
libel. You whine and whine and whine... but then you turn around and commit
libel.

High Plains Hypocrite also claimed he could not reproduce the
clipboard/X issues with Firefox/Iceweasel. He's a liar.

Peter Köhlmann

2009-04-06 12:29:40 UTC

Post by Snit
High Plains Thumper stated in post

Post by John
Is that you Steve? You sound crazier than ever!!

No, it was a another Snit lie. He doctored up his own GUI
evidence

Ok, once and for all try to back your libelous statements up.
But you will not. You whine and threaten to sue others when they talk about
your sexuality, but here you are openly libeling me. How dare you!
What a hypocrite you are.

Post by High Plains Thumper
and presented it as truth, which I could not duplicate
in Linux.

What you claim to be able to duplicate is irrelevant. You just committed
libel. You whine and whine and whine... but then you turn around and
commit libel.

High Plains Hypocrite also claimed he could not reproduce the
clipboard/X issues with Firefox/Iceweasel. He's a liar.

Did you notice that Snot Michael Glasser labeled HPT with "libel" because
HPT thinks that Glasser forges his "evidence" (he does) and that he could
not reproduce Glassers "resuluts" on his system (fat chance. Michael
Glasser simply forges his "UI evidence" and puts them on his website).
Large amounts of trial and error will usually result in a UI distantly
similar to the "results" Glasser gets.

So how can that twit Michael Glasser say that not having the "same
results" he "gets" (forges) is "libel"?

What he effectivly says is: What you claim to be able to duplicate is
irrelevant. And when you don't have the same results I do with my forged
evidence and say so, you are commiting libel"
Idiocy and dishonesty on a new level, reached by Michael Glasser

In short: The liar is Michael Glasser. And no amount of support from you
will change that fact, "true linux advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs
user", "swapfile expert", "X specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server
admin", "defragger professional", "newsreader magician", "hardware maven",
"time coordinator", "email sage", "tripwire wizard", "Pulseaudio rockstar"
and "OSS culling committee chairman" Hadron Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka
Richard, aka Damian O'Leary, aka Steve Townsend, aka Ubuntu King

--
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

Sermo Malifer

2009-04-06 13:36:09 UTC

Post by Snit
High Plains Thumper stated in post

Post by John
Is that you Steve? You sound crazier than ever!!

No, it was a another Snit lie. He doctored up his own GUI evidence

Ok, once and for all try to back your libelous statements up.
But you will not. You whine and threaten to sue others when they talk
about your sexuality, but here you are openly libeling me. How dare
you! What a hypocrite you are.

and presented it as truth, which I could not duplicate in Linux.

What you claim to be able to duplicate is irrelevant. You just
committed libel. You whine and whine and whine... but then you turn
around and commit libel.

High Plains Hypocrite also claimed he could not reproduce the
clipboard/X issues with Firefox/Iceweasel. He's a liar.

When High Plains Thumper can't duplicate the faults claimed by Snit, it
means HPT is the liar? Snit couldn't be the liar? The only reason you
think the spamming troll Snit is right is because it suits your anti-
Linux agenda for him to be correct, and he's attacking one of your
enemies to boot.

Doctor Smith

2009-04-05 13:28:19 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
libel.

Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which makes your
apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles, High Plains Thumper.

So are you gay or not?

Tell the truth now because you are not the only one who knows how to use a
search engine.......

Wally

2009-04-05 13:30:01 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
libel.

Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which makes your
apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles, High Plains Thumper.

Your undeniable confusion as to whether you wish to refer to "latent
homosexuality" or "apparent homosexuality" is saying far more about you than
it is about anyone else!

You really ought to give the book of third grade insults back to Snit as it
is clearly way too deep for you!

Doctor Smith

2009-04-05 13:38:57 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
libel.

Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which makes your
apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles, High Plains Thumper.

Your undeniable confusion as to whether you wish to refer to "latent
homosexuality" or "apparent homosexuality" is saying far more about you than
it is about anyone else!
You really ought to give the book of third grade insults back to Snit as it
is clearly way too deep for you!

It's "apparently latent".

(That should confuse the hell of you)

You seem to be an expert on the matter.
Are you gay as well?

Wally

2009-04-05 14:05:07 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
libel.

Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which makes your
apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles, High Plains Thumper.

Your undeniable confusion as to whether you wish to refer to "latent
homosexuality" or "apparent homosexuality" is saying far more about you than
it is about anyone else!
You really ought to give the book of third grade insults back to Snit as it
is clearly way too deep for you!

It's "apparently latent".
(That should confuse the hell of you)

There is nothing confusing about changing the subject matter!

"apparently latent" as opposed to "latent homosexuality" or "apparent
homosexuality"!

Now just give Snit his books back!

Post by Doctor Smith
You seem to be an expert on the matter.

That would depend on who you are comparing me with! If it's yourself then I
can see why you would have that opinion!

Post by Doctor Smith
Are you gay as well?

And that matters ...why?

Snit

2009-04-05 14:24:41 UTC

Wally stated in post C5EE4ABF.12B8C%***@wally.world.net on 3/23/09 4:30
PM:
...

Well *that* comment does explain a lot Snit...... "I do not see any
*logical* reason to disallow incest."-Snit ......You see incest as a "whole
set"? What 'parts' go to make up that "whole set" Snit? You really are a sad
case Snit!

Remember how lost you have shown you are with the concept of even very simple
I gave a clear example as to when a subset with 0 elements
would not actually be empty as you claimed that it would!
But zero items does not necessarily translate to being empty
as you have said it would!
your delusion is that something that owes its very existence
to the fact that it contains information can in fact be
...empty!
whether it is written {} or {0} has no significance wrt what
the answer actually is
it makes no difference if you write {} and I write {0}
because the meaning is exactly the same ...0 elements!
Now research why a "subset" cannot be "empty"
And, of course, when I note something that does *not* apply to a set of
behavior you erroneous claim that applied to all subsets. Given your lack of
ability to comprehend simple concepts, when I note I see no *logical* reason
to disallow, for example, two siblings in their 80s from having a mutually
agreeable relationship that most people would find abhorrent, you illogically
jump to the conclusion that I believe there is no reason to disallow other
abhorrent behavior. It is simply another sign of your complete inability to
understand logic a standard grade school child would understand.
And then you claim that incest and sex are, to you, "synonymous" (a claim
only a pervert would make) and you support Tim Adams when he calls them
"identical."
You have pushed yourself into such a deep, dark corner you cannot even decide
if you think bestiality is or is not synonymous with sex... when any
non-pervert would know they are very, very different concepts and thus
clearly not synonymous.

Why are you changing the subject Snit?

The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them. I have noted,
and proved via quotes, that you are completely lost on the topic of sets and
subsets, even with simple concepts that a grade school student would
understand.

You repeatedly make the same mistakes over and over... as I described,
above, and you snipped and ran from - showing you know I am right or,
perhaps, you are just so far over your head you know you have no reasoned
explanation.

And you are so frustrated and confused you cannot even figure out if you
think *bestiality* is synonymous with sex! That is utterly repulsive. You
are a pervert who has claimed that incest, to you, is synonymous with sex.
And you support your perverted buddy Tim Adams who says the two are
"identical." When your perverse claims are noted, you try to turn things
around and talk about how, based on your complete lack of understanding of
the most simple of concepts, you think I am as perverted as you are.

Utterly reprehensible on your part. But worse than that: when you really
get frustrated you lash out against my personal life and my professional
life and the people I interact with in such capacities - making up stories
to try to turn the attention away from yourself and your perverse claims.

You have now admitted that you believe incest to be a "whole set" why are you
so reluctant to explain what you think the 'parts' are that go toward making
up this "whole set"?

Why do you label it an "admission" that one can make, for example, a Venn
diagram with "incest" as a set and subsets within it? Once again: you are
proving how utterly lost you are in any conversation that deals with even
*simple* set concepts.

It seems that we are getting close to the point where you will find it
necessary to start another thread to try and divert attention away from the
hole that you have dug for yourself Snit! (Or in this case perhaps 'whole'
that you have dug for yourself is more appropriate?)
<waffle snipped>

Oh, I would have loved to see your waffle... please paste it back in!

Oh... you will just panic and snip the above. Face it: it is so far over
your head you do not even understand it!

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Snit

2009-04-05 14:53:58 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
libel.

Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which makes your
apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles, High Plains Thumper.

Your undeniable confusion as to whether you wish to refer to "latent
homosexuality" or "apparent homosexuality" is saying far more about you than
it is about anyone else!
You really ought to give the book of third grade insults back to Snit as it
is clearly way too deep for you!

It's "apparently latent".
(That should confuse the hell of you)
You seem to be an expert on the matter.
Are you gay as well?

Again: Wally's sexuality is of no interest... it is not a topic that should
even be discussed. But Wally clearly has a lot of problems with his views
dealing with sexuality and sex: he has made it clear that incest, to him, is
*synonymous* with sex. I kid you not:

"I have *always* maintained that incest is synonymous with sex"
- Wally

"I on the other hand have maintained that incest and sex are
synonymous!" - Wally

"Incest, for most people, IS synonymous with sex" - Wally

And his pervert friend, Tim Adams, jumped in to defend him:

"Yet incest IS synonymous with sex." - Tim Adams

"Incest is synonymous with sex because the definitions
clearly prove it." - Tim Adams

"incest IS synonymous with sex, yet you argue against that
FACT." - Tim Adams

Tim Adams even said the two were, and I quote, "identical", and Wally has
defended the use of that word to describe incest and sex.

Wally even showed, recently, that he could not figure out if he thought
bestiality was in the same "grouping" for him... while any non-pervert can
tell you that bestiality is *not* synonymous with sex, Wally has yet to
decide it it is or is not.

Wally and Tim Adams, in retaliation for my noting this, have dredged up
quotes they take out of context. For example: I once noted that there is no
logical reason to 80 year old siblings could not engage in a relationship
you, I, and most would find reprehensible and vulgar. They cannot procreate
and neither, presumably, is in a position of authority over the other: they
are two free adults making choices.

Tim and Wally pulled comments from my views out of context and tried to make
it seem like I agreed with them about there being no difference between sex
and incest - they pretended I agreed with them about the synonymy of the
two. I do not.

Now: in case I have taken anything out of context, if Wally or Tim Adams are
willing to say that the do *not* believe that incest and sex are
synonymous... or identical... then I would be ecstatic. I would love for
them to say they merely misspoke or that their words were taken out of
context - but time and time again both have insisted they meant what they
said and that they have been quoted accurately.

The one exception to that is Tim Adams who, contrary to logic and
rationality, talked about how he thinks incest is *identical* to sex, but
only when "presented" in that order. Whatever that means. If A = B, then B
= A. The order is 100% irrelevant. He is not willing to say that incest is
not, to him, *identical* to sex. That is just repulsive.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Snit

2009-04-05 18:07:51 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
libel.

Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which makes your
apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles, High Plains Thumper.

Your undeniable confusion as to whether you wish to refer to "latent
homosexuality" or "apparent homosexuality" is saying far more about you than
it is about anyone else!
You really ought to give the book of third grade insults back to Snit as it
is clearly way too deep for you!

It's "apparently latent".
(That should confuse the hell of you)
You seem to be an expert on the matter.
Are you gay as well?

Wally and other trolls will continue to lie about this whole thing.

High Plains Thumper showed clear and obvious anger over a comment about is
sexuality... he was so offended that he threatened to take you to court over
it.

I noted I did not approve of talking about his sexuality: the trolls have
lied and claimed I backed your actions (I did note I have no sympathy for
HPT and pointed out several posts where he has been lying about me... if he
wants my sympathy he can stop lying about me!)

I noted that his clear and obvious anger of the comments come because he
either is gay and you otted him when he did not wish to be outted, or
because he is not gay and took it as an insult. The trolls lied and claimed
that I am saying someone *should* be offended for being called gay and even
to claim that it somehow shows some sign of bigotry from *me*.

What the heck? Noting that someone clearly *was* offended by someone saying
he is gay is now a form of bigotry? No! Saying someone should *not* target
others with comments about their sexuality, gay or straight, is now a form
of support for such actions? No!

And then when I point out HPT's libel, there the trolls are, claiming that
his derogatory lies, posted to a public forum, are not libel... Tim Adams
even labeled the lies as "truth". What? Lies are not, according to Tim
Adams, truth? No! That is idiotic.

What the heck: are these concepts so hard? Where did Adams and Wally and
Carroll get lost? Why are they *never* able to understand what they read?
Are they completely incapable of being honest?

Carroll freaked out in 2004 when he blamed me for his girlfriend leaving
him. He is insane. But why do Wally and Adams support his BS? What is
wrong with them?

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Steve Carroll

2009-04-05 18:24:17 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
libel.

Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which makes your
apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles, High Plains Thumper.

Your undeniable confusion as to whether you wish to refer to "latent
homosexuality" or "apparent homosexuality" is saying far more about you than
it is about anyone else!
You really ought to give the book of third grade insults back to Snit as it
is clearly way too deep for you!

It's "apparently latent".
(That should confuse the hell of you)
You seem to be an expert on the matter.
Are you gay as well?

suggested that he should feel "embarrassed" about being "outted"? Yes,
you did... as shown in this quote:"

"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is
embarrassed you outted him or..." - Snit

Now I'll make a suggestion to you:
Stop trying to pretend you aren't bigoted towards gays, Snit... people
just aren't as stupid as you need them to be.

Snit

2009-04-05 18:25:28 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
libel.

Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which makes your
apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles, High Plains Thumper.

Your undeniable confusion as to whether you wish to refer to "latent
homosexuality" or "apparent homosexuality" is saying far more about you than
it is about anyone else!
You really ought to give the book of third grade insults back to Snit as it
is clearly way too deep for you!

It's "apparently latent".
(That should confuse the hell of you)
You seem to be an expert on the matter.
Are you gay as well?

Wally and other trolls will continue to lie about this whole thing.
High Plains Thumper showed clear and obvious anger over a comment about is
sexuality... he was so offended that he threatened to take you to court over
it.
I noted I did not approve of talking about his sexuality: the trolls have
lied and claimed I backed your actions (I did note I have no sympathy for
HPT and pointed out several posts where he has been lying about me... if he
wants my sympathy he can stop lying about me!)
I noted that his clear and obvious anger of the comments come because he
either is gay and you otted him when he did not wish to be outted, or
because he is not gay and took it as an insult. The trolls lied and claimed
that I am saying someone *should* be offended for being called gay and even
to claim that it somehow shows some sign of bigotry from *me*.
What the heck? Noting that someone clearly *was* offended by someone saying
he is gay is now a form of bigotry? No! Saying someone should *not* target
others with comments about their sexuality, gay or straight, is now a form
of support for such actions? No!
And then when I point out HPT's libel, there the trolls are, claiming that
his derogatory lies, posted to a public forum, are not libel... Tim Adams
even labeled the lies as "truth". What? Lies are not, according to Tim
Adams, truth? No! That is idiotic.

LOL! Make that: Lies are NOW, according to Tim Adams, truth.

Sigh... trolls will have a party based on *that* typo. Oh well. Not like
they even try to be honest.

Post by Snit
What the heck: are these concepts so hard? Where did Adams and Wally and
Carroll get lost? Why are they *never* able to understand what they read?
Are they completely incapable of being honest?
Carroll freaked out in 2004 when he blamed me for his girlfriend leaving
him. He is insane. But why do Wally and Adams support his BS? What is
wrong with them?

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Snit

2009-04-05 14:24:22 UTC

Wally stated in post C5EE4ABF.12B8C%***@wally.world.net on 3/23/09 4:30
PM:
...

Why are you changing the subject Snit?

You have now admitted that you believe incest to be a "whole set" why are you
so reluctant to explain what you think the 'parts' are that go toward making
up this "whole set"?

Oh, I would have loved to see your waffle... please paste it back in!

Oh... you will just panic and snip the above. Face it: it is so far over
your head you do not even understand it!

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Snit

2009-04-05 14:23:57 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
libel.

Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which makes your
apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles, High Plains Thumper.
So are you gay or not?
Tell the truth now because you are not the only one who knows how to use a
search engine.......

I noted:

* I disagree with you making an issue of his sexuality

* He either is or is not gay... it does not matter which

And he and Wally freaked out.

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High Plains Thumper

2009-04-05 23:41:31 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he
posted links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts
that michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor
michael glasser apparently doesn't understand that
the truth ISN'T libel.

Apparently you seem to enjoy collecting USENET posts, which
makes your apparent homosexuality the least of your troubles,
High Plains Thumper.

Doctor Smith, liar with flawed assessment, trash talker of the
Usenet.

Here are concise, brief summaries of this nymshifting, worthless,
troll:

http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2007/01/flatfish-troll.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/01/moshe-goldfarb-troll.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/11/sandeep-kumar.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2008/12/gary-m-stewart.html
http://colatrolls.blogspot.com/2009/02/doctor-smith.html

Post by Doctor Smith
So are you gay or not?

No, I am not, and I do not appreciate this personal libel.

Post by Doctor Smith
Tell the truth now because you are not the only one who knows
how to use a search engine.......

Planted by Gary M. Stewart AKA flatfish, Moshe Goldfarb, Sandeep
Kumar, and Doctor Smith himself. See the above links.

Posting about Linux advocacy does not make one a homosexual.
Rather, it is evidence of:

http://www.webservertalk.com/message1474739.html

[quote]
Subject: 3.4 The nasty Troll

If anyone does anything which will interfere with the troll's
ability to cause mayhem, they can become very nasty, posting from
obviously incorrect variations of the name etc. insults, call
them netcops, netnannies, homosexuals. [...]

Subject: 4.5 Personal attacks on individuals and groups.

Selected individuals are subjected to quite vicious personal
attacks throughout usenet. Examples are: "XXXXs animals!" "is a
cannibal" "is a hermaphrodite!" "is a molester of boys" "in
panties gets XXXXed up the arse" "is a Nazi!" "is a cocksucking
queer" "is a hermaphrodite just like Maryanne Kehoe" "molests
boys on American Airlines" "Sexually harassed by" "is an anthrax
pervert" "AT GAY PARTY" "sucks his father's cock" "is a pervert"
"hated wherever he goes!" "White Racist" "Usenet spammer!"
"Usenet k00k!" "I hope you die SOON".

As will be seen several of these are libelous, and thus illegal.

Groups such as the regular posters are attacked similarly.
[/quote]

--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green

Snit

2009-04-06 02:20:59 UTC

High Plains Thumper stated in post 49d941ad$0$3336$***@read.cnntp.org
on 4/5/09 4:41 PM:

...

Post by Doctor Smith
So are you gay or not?

No, I am not, and I do not appreciate this personal libel.

Do you agree with Steve Carroll and Wally that the mere noting of your
offense at such comments on your sexuality somehow makes a person a bigot?
...

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[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Wally

2009-04-06 12:08:16 UTC

Post by Snit
...

Post by Doctor Smith
So are you gay or not?

No, I am not, and I do not appreciate this personal libel.

Do you agree with Steve Carroll and Wally that the mere noting of your
offense at such comments on your sexuality somehow makes a person a bigot?
...

Where has HPT claimed to have taken offense Snit?

"I just have this to say, I consider this as personal libel, worthy of
seeking legal action to include requesting log in information from
Motzarella.org and Individual.net by legal counsel."-HPT

"No, I am not, and I do not appreciate this personal libel."-HPT

The bigotry evident in your comments Snit are as a result of you 'assuming'
that offense was taken by HPT, he has only stated that he considered it a
personal libel! just, I guess the same reaction he would have to *any* lies
told about him!

*You* are the one that has suggested that being called gay should result in
offense being taken or embarrassment being felt Snit!

Snit

2009-04-05 14:06:08 UTC

Post by Tim Adams
michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted
links to some of High Plains Thumper's posts that
michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael glasser
apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T
libel.

Post by Tim Adams
You might also note that once again, without fail,
michael glasser tries to start up his shit circus.

That's what trolls do.

Tim Adams is a troll so he lies. You are a troll so you
pretend to agree. Neither of you, of course, are willing to
discuss *topics*, all you are willing to do is lash out
against people .....

Post by Wally
"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is
embarrassed you outted him or he is not gay and takes the
claim as an insult."-Snit

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/3b6afa8eacc65cf0

Post by Wally
Irony and hypocrisy ... The two things that Snit can be relied
upon to do automatically!

I get it: You do not see the difference between changing a non-offensive
subject line to a dishonest accusation against another poster and then the
target of your BS changing the subject line back to being honest.

The fact is, HPT, you cannot defend your anti-choice views, so you lash out
and spew lies.

Why not rise to the level of discussing *Linux* and OSS... you know, the
topics you dishonestly pretend to want to discuss and then whine incessantly
when others speak off topic.

I have spoken in depth about my views: they are well supported, well thought
out, heavily backed by industry experts both in and out of the OSS world,
and are completely unimpeachable. You do not like my idea of offering
*more* choice to users: so you lash out and whine and cry and make up
stories, you quote Steve Carroll's forged and scavenged quotes he has been
collecting since 2004 when he blamed me for his girlfriend leaving him, and
you do everything you can to *avoid* any technical topic.

I challenge you to rise above your petty hurt feelings and move forward
talking about technology and technological issues.

If you can.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Snit

2009-04-05 13:57:48 UTC

Wally stated in post C5EE4ABF.12B8C%***@wally.world.net on 3/23/09 4:30
PM:
...

Why are you changing the subject Snit?

You have now admitted that you believe incest to be a "whole set" why are you
so reluctant to explain what you think the 'parts' are that go toward making
up this "whole set"?

Oh, I would have loved to see your waffle... please paste it back in!

Oh... you will just panic and snip the above. Face it: it is so far over
your head you do not even understand it!

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Steve Carroll

2009-04-05 17:17:30 UTC

That's what trolls do.

Tim Adams is a troll so he lies.
You are a troll so you pretend to agree.
Neither of you, of course, are willing to discuss *topics*,

Said the hypocritical liar who continually brings up my name (and the
names of others) when he wants to change the topic from "technology"
to trolling.

Snit

2009-04-05 02:57:10 UTC

Tim Adams stated in post

Post by Tim Adams

Post by Snit
In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult.

Those are the only two alternatives possible Snit? ... How amazingly
ignorant of you Snit! really!

Post by Snit
I do not think comments should be targeted in such a way,

How would you have targeted such speculation Snit? ... Do tell!
Snit aligning himself with a person that link's mental illness with latent
homosexuality ... Good grief, do they still have the 'Ducking stool' in
Prescott too?
"It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy Toiletwater = George
Hostler displays the classic signs of a mentally ill person.
I suspect it is his latent homosexuality that is causing the
problems."-Doctor Smith
Could this be a sign that Snit accepts that his own latent homosexuality may
be a factor regarding the mental problems that he has claimed that he has
had to endure?
Or is this no more than a classic example of Snit's hypocrisy and or of the
ever present slipping of reality from Snit's fragile grasp?

michael glasser even went so far as to claim he posted links to some of High
Plains Thumper's posts that michael glasser thinks libeled him. Poor michael
glasser apparently doesn't understand that the truth ISN'T libel.
You might also note that once again, without fail, michael glasser tries to
start up his shit circus.

Please stop lying about me. Seriously: the only reason you do so is you
know I have pointed out how perverted your claims that incest and sex are,
to you, *identical*. Your word.

You are a sick, sick man.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Snit

2009-04-05 02:58:42 UTC

Wally stated in post C5EE4ABF.12B8C%***@wally.world.net on 3/23/09 4:30
PM:
...

Why are you changing the subject Snit?

You have now admitted that you believe incest to be a "whole set" why are you
so reluctant to explain what you think the 'parts' are that go toward making
up this "whole set"?

Oh, I would have loved to see your waffle... please paste it back in!

Oh... you will just panic and snip the above. Face it: it is so far over
your head you do not even understand it!

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Wally

2009-04-05 08:16:12 UTC

Why are you changing the subject Snit?

The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them.

Such as ...

"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit

They are *your* baseless accusations Snit!

Why don't you ever give your foot a chance to heal before you take yet
another shot at it Snit? LOL

Hadron

2009-04-05 13:20:59 UTC

Why are you changing the subject Snit?

The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them.

Such as ...
"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit
They are *your* baseless accusations Snit!

They are not accusations, they are summaries. And they are
comprehensive. Its one or the other.

Post by Wally
Why don't you ever give your foot a chance to heal before you take yet
another shot at it Snit? LOL

Wally

2009-04-05 13:34:01 UTC

Why are you changing the subject Snit?

The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them.

Such as ...
"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit
They are *your* baseless accusations Snit!

They are not accusations, they are summaries. And they are
comprehensive. Its one or the other.

"In the end he is being a hypocrite"-Snit

A baseless accusation!

Post by Wally
Why don't you ever give your foot a chance to heal before you take yet
another shot at it Snit? LOL

Snit

2009-04-05 14:24:33 UTC

Wally stated in post C5EE4ABF.12B8C%***@wally.world.net on 3/23/09 4:30
PM:
...

Why are you changing the subject Snit?

You have now admitted that you believe incest to be a "whole set" why are you
so reluctant to explain what you think the 'parts' are that go toward making
up this "whole set"?

Oh, I would have loved to see your waffle... please paste it back in!

Oh... you will just panic and snip the above. Face it: it is so far over
your head you do not even understand it!

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Snit

2009-04-05 14:22:55 UTC

Why are you changing the subject Snit?

The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them.

Such as ...
"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit
They are *your* baseless accusations Snit!

They are not accusations, they are summaries. And they are
comprehensive. Its one or the other.

Gee, I noted he either is or is not something. Maybe Wally is offended I
left out the possibility he was partly something? Whatever?

I do not care about anyone's sexuality on Usenet... I think it was wrong to
comment on HPT's sexuality... but, based on HPT's actions I feel *no*
sympathy for him. And his reaction to the comments were completely
hypocritical: he pretended he did not want to see such BS spewed in Usenet,
but I was able to *easily* point out where he spews lies and accusations and
insults on a regular basis, such as when he adopted Wally's idiotic claim
that since I noted a quote I provided was accurate this somehow supports
their lies of my using sock puppets. Their "logic" is completely lacking...
both Wally and HPT just lash out because they know they have backed
themselves into corners.

They could, of course, just move on: unlike an animal backed into a corner
who has no easy out, they could just drop their focus on their pains - if
they must, leave for a while and lick their wounds in peace. Then come back
to COLA and CSMA as useful members of the groups, speaking about topics
other than their own pain and their need to lash out. That, really, is what
they talk about now: how they are humiliated and in pain and how they want
to blame others. I know I would let their pasts go if they would just move
on and let it go themselves. I suspect most others would to. Yes, there
might be the occasional comment or reference, but that is just something
they will have to learn to deal with.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Steve Carroll

2009-04-05 17:32:25 UTC

Post by Wally
"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit

(snip)

Post by Snit
Gee, I noted he either is or is not something.

The bigoted, hypocritical liar named Snit was busted suggesting that
another poster should feel "embarrassed" for being "outted" and he's
seen whining about it here. Is anyone surprised? Anyone at all? Didn't
think so...

Wally

2009-04-06 00:19:44 UTC

Why are you changing the subject Snit?

The topic is your baseless accusations and why you make them.

Such as ...
"In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is embarrassed you
outted him or he is not gay and takes the claim as an insult."-Snit
They are *your* baseless accusations Snit!

They are not accusations, they are summaries. And they are
comprehensive. Its one or the other.

Gee, I noted he either is or is not something.

How exactly are you noting 'that he either is or is not' when you said ...

"In the end he is being a hypocrite:"-Snit

*That* is clearly one baseless accusation Snit!

And no of course I do not expect you to answer for your lies Snit, you never
do!

Your reply to me ... apart from the fact that it was a cut'n'paste job from
a totally unrelated matter contained at least two baseless accusations!

Neither of which were contained in what you you state that you "noted"
above!

I am used to you not understanding what it is that you write Snit, it is
disappointing when another person follows suit!

Snit

2009-04-06 02:01:17 UTC

Wally stated in post C5EE4ABF.12B8C%***@wally.world.net on 3/23/09 4:30
PM:
...

Why are you changing the subject Snit?

You have now admitted that you believe incest to be a "whole set" why are you
so reluctant to explain what you think the 'parts' are that go toward making
up this "whole set"?

Oh, I would have loved to see your waffle... please paste it back in!

Oh... you will just panic and snip the above. Face it: it is so far over
your head you do not even understand it!

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Snit

2009-04-05 13:57:32 UTC

Wally stated in post C5EE4ABF.12B8C%***@wally.world.net on 3/23/09 4:30
PM:
...

Why are you changing the subject Snit?

You have now admitted that you believe incest to be a "whole set" why are you
so reluctant to explain what you think the 'parts' are that go toward making
up this "whole set"?

Oh, I would have loved to see your waffle... please paste it back in!

Oh... you will just panic and snip the above. Face it: it is so far over
your head you do not even understand it!

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

High Plains Thumper

2009-04-05 05:18:56 UTC

Post by Snit
In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is
embarrassed you outted him or he is not gay and takes the
claim as an insult.

Those are the only two alternatives possible Snit? ... How
amazingly ignorant of you Snit! really!

Post by Snit
I do not think comments should be targeted in such a way,

How would you have targeted such speculation Snit? ... Do
tell!
Snit aligning himself with a person that link's mental illness
with latent homosexuality ... Good grief, do they still have
the 'Ducking stool' in Prescott too?
"It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy
Toiletwater = George Hostler displays the classic signs of a
mentally ill person. I suspect it is his latent homosexuality
that is causing the problems."-Doctor Smith
Could this be a sign that Snit accepts that his own latent
homosexuality may be a factor regarding the mental problems
that he has claimed that he has had to endure?

Good point! Snit with his constant whines certainly sounds like
a closet sister.

Post by Wally
Or is this no more than a classic example of Snit's hypocrisy
and or of the ever present slipping of reality from Snit's
fragile grasp?

Of course it is! He's dug himself in deep, too deep to retract
himself.

--
HPT
Quando omni flunkus moritati
(If all else fails, play dead)
- "Red" Green

Snit

2009-04-05 13:51:18 UTC

Post by Snit
In the end he is being a hypocrite: either he is gay and is
embarrassed you outted him or he is not gay and takes the
claim as an insult.

Those are the only two alternatives possible Snit? ... How
amazingly ignorant of you Snit! really!

Post by Snit
I do not think comments should be targeted in such a way,

How would you have targeted such speculation Snit? ... Do
tell!
Snit aligning himself with a person that link's mental illness
with latent homosexuality ... Good grief, do they still have
the 'Ducking stool' in Prescott too?
"It's long been known that High Plains Thumper = Wendy
Toiletwater = George Hostler displays the classic signs of a
mentally ill person. I suspect it is his latent homosexuality
that is causing the problems."-Doctor Smith
Could this be a sign that Snit accepts that his own latent
homosexuality may be a factor regarding the mental problems
that he has claimed that he has had to endure?

Good point! Snit with his constant whines certainly sounds like
a closet sister.

Post by Wally
Or is this no more than a classic example of Snit's hypocrisy
and or of the ever present slipping of reality from Snit's
fragile grasp?

Of course it is! He's dug himself in deep, too deep to retract
himself.

I noted that I *disagreed* with someone being insulted as they were... and
you and Wally insist that means I agreed.

Please, would the two of you stop lying and at least *try* to stick to some
topic other than personal attacks designed to keep others on the defensive
so you can avoid talking about relevant issues?

Please?

I simply cannot imagine the humiliation you two must be under to feel the
need to act as you do.

--
[INSERT .SIG HERE]

Wally

2009-04-05 14:19:43 UTC