Post by MkPost by truman burbankgli americani non sono dei porci. gli americani sono la patria della
prima rivoluzione, della carta dei diritti, dei padri fondatori, della
lotta per i diritti civili delle minoranze, di malcom x, di martin
luther king, dei kennedy, gli usa sono una terra stupenda, che ognuno
dovrebbe vedere almeno una volta nella vita.
ehm. sui kennedy dovresti aggiornarti, truman.
ok. quando vuoi parliamo di kennedy così vediamo chi si deve
aggiornare
Post by MkPost by truman burbankbene, un illustre professore di fisica è stato sospeso solo per aver
dichiarato il proprio punto di vista in merito ai fattacci dell'11
settembre.
falso.
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,645199800,00.html
falso? ecco il credulone che se la beve
Post by Mkpiu' che altro quel furbino d'un Jones ha postato i propri studi
(ahahahah) sul sito dell'universita' senza farli passare dall'iter
richiesto, cioe' essere 'peer reviewed'.
l'universita' teme, cioe', di essere sputtanata da un cretino di tali
proporzioni.
certo certo. e tu ti sei bevuto anche questa.... complimenti
cosa ti aspettavi? che dicessero che lo cacciavano perché era
alternativo?
Post by MkPost by truman burbankE POI QUALCUNO SI STUPISCE ANCORA PERCHE' SCIENZIATI, PROFESSORI,
TECNICI E ILLUSTRI STUDIOSI NON APPOGGIANO TEORIE ALTERNATIVE? (PARLO
IN GENERALE, NON SOLO IN RIFERIMENTO ALL'11 SETTEMBRE).
Del perché avete avuto l'ennesima dimostrazione!!!!!!!
"When Jones began to share his demolition theory publicly last fall, he
politely declined to speculate about who set the charges other than to
say terrorist groups couldn't have been the source."
insomma, tira la pietra ma nasconde la mano.
ce ne sono quanti ne vuoi di professori che tirano la PIETRA e non
nascondono la MANO
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Post by Mkcome tutti i complottisti di 'sto newsgroup insomma. e sai perche'?
perche' se accusasse direttamente ci sarebbe un processo.
chi cerca la verità non può accusare direttamente. perché cerca
appunto la verità. se la teoria ufficiale fa acqua da tutte le parti,
le persone scupolose come jones hanno il diritto-dovere di parlarne.
accusare direttamente sta a chi conduce le indagini, sempre che delle
indagini vengano fatte.
Post by Mkprocesso occorrerebbero prove.
le prove che ha Jones che vanno bene per i polli come te, non per un
tribunale.
il pollo che crede alla versione ufficiale sei tu. quello che crede ai
tribunali ufficiali sei tu. ma capisco che così dormi sonno più
tranquilli. buona notte. ecco le prove che già ti sono state gettate
in faccia da tempo
ehehe
oh, ma com'è che voi altri non fate altro che collezionare figuracce
da bar
dello sport? mi chiedo, ma un pochino di buon gusto non vi solletica
mai le
meningi?
vi sono state poste delle domande da mesi, da anni:
a scelta puoi spiegarci perché il wtc7 è venuto giù:
http://xoomer.alice.it/911_subito/wtc7_crollato.htm
o perché le
torri sono crollate:
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html
http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/911/index.php?filename=911/gr...
http://physics911.ca/video/2001/wtc2_collapse_abc2.avi
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http://xoomer.alice.it/911_subito/musulmani_fisica.htm
?http://xoomer.alice.it/911_subito/Immy11settembre/opinione_progettist...
o ci puoi spiegare dove è finito il boeing;
http://mouv4x8.club.fr/11Sept01/A0028_Pentagon_Inside_A.html
http://mouv4x8.club.fr/11Sept01/A0045_Pentagon_Inside_A.html
ci
puoi spiegare cosa ha provocato il buco al terzo anello del ?pentagono:
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http://luogocomune.net/site/modules/911/index.php?filename=911/segret...
http://physics911.ca/gallery2/v/Pentagon/jackwhite/jw_white_pentamiss...
oppure perché ci sono state tutte quelle falle nella difesa:
http://luogocomune.net/site/modules/911/index.php?filename=911/difesa...
?http://xoomer.alice.it/911_subito/voli_non_furono.htm
ci puoi
dire dove sono finiti i video del pentagono:
http://luogocomune.net/site/modules/911/index.php?filename=911/blacko...
ci potresti spiegare come mai i terroristi dell'11 settembre sono
?ancora
vivi:
http://xoomer.alice.it/911_subito/dirottatori_vivi.htm
oppure
perché alcune vittime sono resuscitate:
http://xoomer.alice.it/911_subito/barbara_olson.htm
mai un dubbio, mai un: "si, forse qualche punto è oscuro". no,
integralismo
della peggior specie. poi ogni tanto salta fuori il
volpone di turno che
cerca di smontare le tesi complottiste.
1) prima leonardo serni che urla (a
bassa voce) che lui ha
dimostrato che i buchi al primo e al secondo anello
del pentagono ci
sono:
http://groups.google.com/group/it.discussioni.misteri/tree/browse_frm...
http://groups.google.com/group/it.discussioni.misteri/tree/browse_frm...
gli viene dimostrato inequivocabilmente che ha preso una cantonata:
http://mouv4x8.club.fr/11Sept01/A0031_Top_view_Pentagon_010914-F-8006...
http://mouv4x8.club.fr/11Sept01/A0025_Pentagon_rings_with_hole.html
E CHE IL SECONDO ANELLO HA TRE FILE DI FINESTRE E NON 4 COME IL TERZO E
CHE
DUNQUE LA SUA TEORIA VA A FINIRE NEL CESSO. ma lui niente, non
chiede scusa,
non ammette che si è sbagliato, no.....
2) poi giunge questo mitico MK che a genialità mi pare daniele orlandi
(visto
mai) che se ne esce con la minchiata dell'articolo della
o'brien che sarebbe
falso:
http://groups.google.com/group/it.discussioni.misteri/tree/browse_frm...
ohibò, gli viene dimostrato che è vero:
http://groups.google.com/group/it.discussioni.misteri/tree/browse_frm...
http://groups.google.com/group/it.discussioni.misteri/tree/browse_frm...
ma lui insiste nell'alzare la cresta e fare lo splendido. a questo
punto mi
chiedo, c'è un personaggio serio che sia capace di
rispondere ai quesiti
sopra citati senza cadere nella partigianeria
più bieca?
3) non contento arriva il signor raffaele castagno che pretende di
insegnare al prossimo le verità sull'11 settembre. un piccolo
problema: dichiara che a colpire le torri sono stati dei BOEING 747.
Post by MkIl WTC era progettato per resistere all'impatto di un 707. Un 707 è
più leggero, ed ha meno massa, di un 747. Inoltre, il WTC NON fu
progettato per resistere all'incendio successivo all'impatto. Anzi, si
possono trovare facilmente dichiarazioni dei progettisti che già al
tempo andavano dicendo che potevano reggere l'impatto, ma non certo
resistere al successivo incendio.
http://groups.google.com/group/it.discussioni.misteri/tree/browse_frm/thread/6b3da4470a7c4407/3680092c2fac4bf2?rnum=71&hl=it&_done=%2Fgroup%2Fit.discussioni.misteri%2Fbrowse_frm%2Fthread%2F6b3da4470a7c4407%3Fscoring%3Dd%26hl%3Dit%26&scoring=d#doc_3680092c2fac4bf2
gli viene detto che ha affermato una cosa inesatta:
74 truman burbank
ma lui non contento, invece di ammettere che si è sbagliato, continua
ad attaccare:
76 raffaele.castagno
a quel punto gli viene inequivocabilmente dimostrato che ha detto una
puttanata:
79 truman burbank
SCUSA CASTAGNO, VEDIAMO DI RICAPITOLARE. L'11 SETTEMBRE SI SONO
SCHIANTATI 757 E 767. E I TEST FATTI DAI PROGETTISTI DEL WTC SONO STATI
REALIZZATI SU UN 707. QUESTI 3 SONO GLI AEREI DI CUI SI PARLA QUANDO SI
E' AL CORRENTE DEI FATTI.
TU, CHE INVECE NON SEI AL CORRENTE DEI FATTI, PARLI DEI 747 CHE MAI SI
SONO SCHIANTATI L'11 SETTEMBRE DA NESSUNA PARTE. ORA COMPRENDO CHE TU
SIA ALLA FRUTTA MA NON TI RENDI CONTO DELLA FIGURA DI MERDA CHE STAI
FACENDO?
NEL CASO NON TE NE RENDESSI CONTO ECCO QUI:
BOEING 707, quello su cui sono stati fatti i test del wtc
DATI TECNICI:
Costruttore: The Boeing Company, Seattle, USA Classe: aereo
commerciale a lungo raggio per 133-219 passeggeri Equipaggio: due
piloti, un motorista, un navigatore e quattro-sette assistenti di volo
Motori: quattro turboventole Pratt & Whitney JT3D-3 da 8.165 kg di
spinta con inversori
CARATTERISTICHE:
Apertura alare: 44,42 m Lunghezza: 46,61 m Altezza : 12,93 m Diametro
della fusoliera: 3,76 m Superficie alare: 283,35 mq Peso a vuoto:
64.725 kg Peso massimo al decollo: 151.320 kg Massimo carico pagante:
43.603 kg Capacità dei serbatoi: 90.146 litri Velocità massima a
30.000 ft: 1.010 km/h Velocità di crociera a 25.000 ft: 965 km/h
Tangenza operativa: 39.000 ft Velocità di salita: 2.000 ft/min
Lunghezza di decollo con ostacolo di 15 metri: 3.560 m Lunghezza di
atterraggio su ostacolo di 15 metri: 2.720 m Autonomia con massimo
carico pagante: 6.317 km Autonomia con serbatoi pieni e 133 passeggeri:
8.700 km Consumo di carburante a velocità di crociera: 9.600 L/h
http://www.duegieditrice.it/tuttoaerei/schede-aerei-civili.asp?Link=BOEING-707
BOEING 767, quelli andati contro il wtc:
DATI TECNICI:
Costruttore: Boeing Commercial Airplane Company, Seattle, USA Classe:
aereo commerciale a lungo raggio per 210-327 passeggeri Equipaggio: due
piloti e sei-nove assistenti di volo Motori: due turboventole General
Electric CF6-80C2B2 da 23.815 kg di spinta, tutte con inversori, in
alternativa Pratt & Whitney PW4060 da 22.680 kg di spinta o Rolls Royce
RB211-524G/H da 27.488 kg di spinta.
CARATTERISTICHE:
Apertura alare: 47,57 m Lunghezza: 54,94 m Altezza: 15,85 m Diametro
della fusoliera: 4,72 m. Superficie alare: 283,35 mq Peso a vuoto:
90.500 kg Peso massimo al decollo: 186.900 kg Peso massimo
all’atterraggio: 145.150 kg Massimo carico pagante: 44.500 Kg
Capacità dei serbatoi: 91.370 litri Velocità massima a 30.000 ft: 925
km/h Velocità di crociera a 39.000 ft: 852 km/h Tangenza operativa:
43.000 ft Velocità di salita: 2.300 ft/min Lunghezza di decollo con
ostacolo di 15 metri: 3.300 m Lunghezza di atterraggio su ostacolo di
15 metri: 2.000 m Autonomia con massimo carico pagante: 9.200 km
Autonomia con serbatoi pieni e 218 passeggeri: 11.390 km Consumo di
carburante a velocità di crociera: 5.400 L/h
http://www.duegieditrice.it/tuttoaerei/schede-aerei-civili.asp?Link=BOEING-767
BEOING 757, quello scomparso nel buco di 5 metri al pentagono
DATI TECNICI:
Costruttore: Boeing Commercial Airplane Company, Seattle, USA Classe:
aereo commerciale a medio-lungo raggio per 200-235 passeggeri
Equipaggio: due piloti e cinque-sette assistenti di volo Motori: due
turboventole Rolls-Royce RB211-535C da 16.965 kg di spinta oppure
RB211-E535E4 da 18.190 kg di spinta. In alternativa Pratt & Whitney
PW2037 da 17.350 kg di spinta oppure PW2040 da 18.901 kg di spinta,
tutti dotati di inversori
CARATTERISTICHE:
Apertura alare: 38,05 m Lunghezza: 47,32 m Altezza: 13,56 m Diametro
della fusoliera: 3,53 m Superficie alare: 185,25 mq Peso a vuoto:
58.040 kg Peso massimo al decollo: 113.398 kg Peso massimo
all’atterraggio: 95.250 kg Massimo carico pagante: 26.300 kg
Capacità dei serbatoi: 42.680 litri Velocità massima a 30.000 ft: 935
km/h Velocità di crociera a 39.000 ft: 850 km/h Tangenza operativa:
42.500 ft Velocità di salita: 2.500 ft/min Lunghezza di decollo con
ostacolo di 15 metri: 2.600 m Lunghezza di atterraggio su ostacolo di
15 metri: 1.700 m Autonomia con massimo carico pagante: 6.318 km
Autonomia con serbatoi pieni e 200 passeggeri: 7.900 km Consumo di
carburante a velocità di crociera: 4.600 L/h
http://www.duegieditrice.it/tuttoaerei/schede-aerei-civili.asp?Link=BOEING-757
BOEING 747, quello che RAFFAELE CASTAGNO si è inventato ma che con
l'11 settembre non ha nulla a che fare
DATI TECNICI:
Costruttore: Boeing Commercial Airplane Company, Seattle, USA
Classe: aereo commerciale a lungo raggio per 416-568 passeggeri
Equipaggio: due piloti e dodici-diciotto assistenti di volo Motori:
quattro turboventole Pratt & Whitney PW4056 da 25.750 kg di spinta
oppure General Electric CF6-80C2B4 da 26.263 kg di spinta o Rolls-Royce
RB211-524G da 26.310 kg di spinta, tutte con inversori.
CARATTERISTICHE:
Apertura alare: 64,44 m Lunghezza: 70,66 m Altezza: 19,41 m Diametro
della fusoliera: 6,50 m Superficie alare: 524,88 mq Peso a vuoto:
181.000 kg Peso massimo al decollo:396.890 kg Peso massimo
all’atterraggio: 285.765 kg Massimo carico pagante: 66.500 kg
Capacità dei serbatoi: 216.850 litri Velocità massima a: 30.000 ft:
976 km/h Velocità di crociera a 35.000 ft: 939 km/h Tangenza
operativa: 45.000 ft Velocità di salita: 2.300 ft/min Lunghezza di
decollo con ostacolo di 15 metri: 3.400 m Lunghezza di atterraggio su
ostacolo di 15 metri: 2.200 m Autonomia massima con i soli piloti a
bordo: 15.569 km Autonomia con serbatoi pieni e 416 passeggeri: 13.490
km Consumo di carburante a velocità di crociera: 13.500 L/h
http://www.duegieditrice.it/tuttoaerei/schede-aerei-civili.asp?Link=BOEING-747-300-400
ADESSO QUALCHE COMPARAZIONE (dati approssimati):
apertura alare:
707: 44m
767: 47m
747: 64m
lunghezza:
707: 46m
767: 54m
747: 70m
altezza:
707: 13m
767: 16m
747: 20m
peso a vuoto:
707: 64.000 kg
767: 90.000 kg
747: 181.000kg
peso al decollo:
707: 151.000 kg
767: 186.000 kg
747: 396.000kg
capacità serbaoi:
707: 90.000 litri
767: 91.000 litri
747: 216.000 litri
ADESSO FESSO CHE NON SEI ALTRO, DOPO AVER DETTO CHE DENTRO IL WTC CI
SONO ENTRATI DEI 747, INVECE CHE DEI 767, TI SARAI ANCHE ACCORTO CHE
TRA UN 767 E UN 747 C'E' UNA BELLA DIFFERENZA. E CHE IL 707, A META'
DEGLI ANNI 70 IL PIU' GRANDE AEREO ESISTENTE E' DECISAMENTE
PARAGONABILE A UN 767 CHE NULLA C'ENTRA, INVECE, CON UN 747.
ordunque fenomeno da baraccone, con questa minchiata entri di dirittto
insieme a serni e mk tra coloro che hanno cercato di invalidare la
teoria del complotto e che si sono presi una martellata sui denti e
un
calcio in culo.
ASPETTIAMO ANSIOSI CHE SI PRESENTINO DELLE PERSONE PIU' SERIE A
DIMOSTRARCI CHE L'11 SETTEMBRE NON SIA PIENO DI OMBRE.
ehehe
truman