No re-defining of marriage in the LORD's courts!

Post by Ted L
Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one
flesh. "(c.f. Genesis 2:24)
Abomination before God: if a man lie down with men as he lieth
with women (Leviticus 18:22), and women with women as with
men (Romans 2:26).
--
God's definitions, not ours.

That's your god. Not mine.

You have a right to worship your god, your way. But don't try to impose
your god upon others. That has gone out with the middle ages.

--Wax

Dr. House

2009-05-16 21:09:50 UTC

Post by Ted L
Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother,
and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. "(c.f. Genesis
2:24)
Abomination before God: if a man lie down with men as he lieth with women
(Leviticus 18:22), and women with women as with men (Romans 2:26).
--
God's definitions, not ours.

It is your definition that claims this is God's definition. Got
proof?

Eating shellfish is an abomination according to your source. What are
you going to do about all the shellfish eaters? Shellfish consumption
is measured by the ton. Doesn't that make it much worse that any gay
issue?

Regards,

House

dolf

2009-05-16 21:16:26 UTC

There is a logical contention between Pythagoras' Binary apparatus of
number as HETEROS-MARRIAGE mysticism and the Chinese use of the 64
elements of the Changes as an equivalent binary apparatus.

Perhaps you have a mistaken belief about Australia being a Dutch
possession, colonised by the British according to Principle and claim to
Christian Identity following sighting of the transit of Venus across the
sun as disproving the Pythagorean basis to Christian identity by marriage

- Loading Image...

Know the male {ie. SUPER-EGO} but keep to the role of the female {ie.
EGO} and be a ravine to the empire. If you are a ravine to the empire,
then the constant virtue {ie. #72 elements of the TORAH v's #64 elements
of the CHANGES} will not desert you and you will again return to being a
babe. Know the white but keep to the role of the sullied {ie. HETEROS
(marriage) as existential, exceptional and indissoluable BINARY
(CHANGES) apparatus of Number and supernal hierarchy to the SUPER-EGO}
and be a model {ie. #72 autonomic elements} to the empire {ie. #81
elements of the DAO as Commonwealth}.

- Loading Image...

Post by Ted L
Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother,
and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. "(c.f. Genesis
2:24)
Abomination before God: if a man lie down with men as he lieth with women
(Leviticus 18:22), and women with women as with men (Romans 2:26).
--
God's definitions, not ours.

It is your definition that claims this is God's definition. Got
proof?
Eating shellfish is an abomination according to your source. What are
you going to do about all the shellfish eaters? Shellfish consumption
is measured by the ton. Doesn't that make it much worse that any gay
issue?
Regards,
House

dolf

2009-05-16 22:21:04 UTC

The GRAPPLE paradigm as a Balanced Ternary Distributed System, maps to
the Chinese DAOist (#81 element, ternary number theory) and I-Ching (H64
elements as binary apparatus) to produce by extrusion, Hebrew and other
language based categories of understanding by deploying this in
conjunction with a chronological syllogism, or logical appeal: [Greek:
syllismos meaning conclusion, inference], where usually the categorical
syllogism—such as: "No servant can serve two masters: for either he will
hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and
despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and
they derided him."

The pretension-MALAKOS as onomantick basis to Pythagorean and Egyptian
marriage mysticism as BINARY apparatus and Christian identity as
ARSENOKOITE is set in contrast to the TERNARY nature of the CHINESE
perspective of this same cosmology. There is a logical mantric and manic
contention between Pythagoras' Binary apparatus of number as
HETEROS-MARRIAGE mysticism and the Chinese use of the 64 elements of the
Changes as an equivalent binary apparatus. As to God's definition of
piety-monogenes and marriage-monogamous gamogenesis, not ours:

Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
[Genesis 2:24]

Abomination before God: "If a man lie down with men as he lieth with
women" [Leviticus 18:22], "and women with women as with men." [Romans 2:26]

Involving a kind of logical argument in which one proposition as the
conclusion or Telos [#2187 = 3^7 or 'oth cycle: #2184 / #6000 =
122J3W1D] is inferred from two others [the major premise: which contains
the law of that will as 7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle] and
[the minor premise: which contains the command to behave in accordance
with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the law: x 49
= 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March] of a certain form.

THE BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY (AS 10 COMMANDMENTS) IS ASSOCIATED TO A BALANCED
TERNARY DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM
"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men;
but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men
is abomination in the sight of God.

The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man
presseth into it."

#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
Universal Law}, which contains the law of that will:

7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +

#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the
law:

x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +

#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth
as 122J3W1D) = Arch (re'shiyth as 3W1D) + c² [9(9²+1)/2]:

has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie.
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the [21st
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month."
[4Q321]] +

#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1}
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}

vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}

ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of
1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and substantiation of Christian
identity.

"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass [1 John 5:7], than one
tittle of the law to fail: "In his first audience at the Vatican since
his divorce from Diana, Princess of Wales, the Prince was expected to
receive a gift of a "luxury facsimile" of an appeal to Pope Clement VII
in 1530 CE in which English peers asked for the annulment of Henry
VIII’s (1491-1547 CE) marriage to Catherine of Aragon.

This follows after the Telegraph.co.uk Online Newspaper had in the first
week of April reported, that the words "Willyam Thomas, I pray yow pray
for me your lovyng master: Prynce Henry" are from a prayer roll once
belonging to the teenage Henry, who gave the roll to William Thomas, one
of his personal servants in his Privy Chamber, some time between 1505
and 1509 CE, when Henry was the Prince of Wales.

That we are able to determine whether the Monarch was a godly man by
measuring the chronological steeping to the Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon
as intellectual property and hypostatic metashematizo of homoousion. The
prayer roll will be shown in public for the first time at the British
Library's exhibition Henry VIII: Man and Monarch, which opens later this
month and marks the 500th anniversary of Henry's accession to the
throne. [Copyright and Courtesy Roya Nikkhah, Arts Correspondent,
Telegraph.co.uk 2009.4.4: Exciting discovery reveals Henry VIII as firm
believer in Catholicism]

Pope Benedict XVI, drawing on the analogy of an earthquake that had
several days earlier, struck the Italian Abruzzo region severely
damaging many churches, said "there is another 'ruin' that is far more
serious [to] that of people and communities! Like Francis [of Assisi (c.
1181-1226)], always start with yourselves. We are the first house that
God wants to restore.

If you are always able to renew yourselves in the spirit of the Gospel,
you will continue to assist the pastors of the Church to make more and
more beautiful the Church's face, that of the bride of Christ. The Pope,
now the same as then, expects this of you... Now go and bring to all the
peace and love of Christ the Saviour. May Mary Immaculate, 'Virgin made
Church', accompany you always. And may my Apostolic Blessing, which I
cordially impart to all of you here present, and the entire Franciscan
family, support you as well." [(c) 2009 Zenit News Agency 2009.4.20,
ZE09042008, Benedict XVI's Castel Gandolfo address to the Franciscan
Family: Attracting Christian Men and Women of All Ages]

The original appeal attributed to a hoax in news reports of 2009.4.20,
spoke of an important document in the history of the Reformation, which
is kept in the Vatican’s secret archives. But I've repeated here the
substance of the hocus-pocus {ie. hax pax max Deus adimax: material
objections by which to undertake various transformations related to
artificial or natural phenomena} amongst the hoi-polloi who may
recognize this hoity-toity and historical impunity to the Sovereign
autonomic right to regulative freewill as the ‘right to remain silent’
and ‘presumption of innocence’ under the Commonwealth amounts to Treason.

According to reports, Benedict XVI intends the gift as a good-will
gesture to assist in the healing of relations between the Vatican and
the Church of England. But some believe the guesture originates from a
parody of the Roman Catholic liturgy of the eucharist, which contains
the phrase "Hoc est enim corpus meum". This explanation goes back to
speculations by the Anglican prelate John Tillotson (1630-1694), who
wrote in 1694: "In all probability those common juggling words of hocus
pocus are nothing else but a corruption of hoc est corpus, by way of
ridiculous imitation of the priests of the Church of Rome in their trick
of Transubstantiation."

Or it may simply be imitation Latin with no meaning, made up to impress
people: "I will speak of one man... that went about in King James his
time... who called himself, The Kings Majesties most excellent Hocus
Pocus, and so was he called, because that at the playing of every Trick,
he used to say, Hocus pocus, tontus talontus, vade celeriter jubeo, a
dark composure of words, to blind the eyes of the beholders, to make his
Trick pass the more currently without discovery, because when the eye
and the ear of the beholder are both earnestly busied, the Trick is not
so easily discovered, nor the Imposture discerned." [According to
Wikipedia Sources 2009: Thomas Ady, A Candle in the Dark, 1656]

However, it will also serve as a reminder of the schism rooted in Henry
VIII’s battles with the Holy See over the binding nature of marriage: "I
have read in Times Online that, for the occasion of the forthcoming
visit of the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall, the Pope is to
gift his illustrious visitors a fascimile of the 1530 CE appeal by
English peers to Pope Clement VII asking for the annulment of Henry
VIII's marriage to Catherine of Aragon (From the Times April 20, 'The
Pope's gift...' Richard Owen, Rome) This news is completely untrue and
has no basis whatsoever in fact. I would ask you to issue an immediate
and unambiguous denial. Yours faithfully" [Federico Lombardi S J, Holy
See Press Office, Vatican City 2009.4.20]

The Prince was the first senior member of the Royal Family to marry a
divorcée since Edward VIII [who had to abdicate in 1936 to marry the
American Wallis Simpson. The Roman Catholic Church considers marriage a
legal and sacred bond "which cannot be broken using temporal laws"].
According to erroneous media reports, the Prince was expected, to be the
first to receive a gift as facsimile of the document from the Pope.
[Copyright and Courtesy Foreign Staff Reporters, Telegraph.co.uk
2009.4.20: Charles and Camilla to be reminded of Pope's view of divorce]

Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth
adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband
committeth adultery.'" [Luke 16:13-18 (KJV)]

Post by Ted L
Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother,
and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. "(c.f. Genesis
2:24)
Abomination before God: if a man lie down with men as he lieth with women
(Leviticus 18:22), and women with women as with men (Romans 2:26).
--
God's definitions, not ours.

It is your definition that claims this is God's definition. Got
proof?
Eating shellfish is an abomination according to your source. What are
you going to do about all the shellfish eaters? Shellfish consumption
is measured by the ton. Doesn't that make it much worse that any gay
issue?
Regards,
House

And if I may prattle some more--The next revision of the vCube.html will
have an expanded formIdea (9x9) for the entire year and within this
context I intend to compute each of the Dynamic Natural Associators as
Categories of the Understanding for each of the stratum of noumenon
entries which comprise the superficial plane as the Super-Ego according
to the Daoist cosmological and empirical understanding and perspective
of this:

- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/3dautomata.jpg

Know the male {ie. SUPER-EGO} but keep to the role of the female {ie.
EGO} and be a ravine to the empire. If you are a ravine to the empire,
then the constant virtue {ie. #72 elements of the TORAH v's #64 elements
of the CHANGES} will not desert you and you will again return to being a
babe. Know the white but keep to the role of the sullied {ie. HETEROS
(marriage) as existential, exceptional and indissoluable BINARY
(CHANGES) apparatus of Number and supernal hierarchy to the SUPER-EGO}
and be a model {ie. #72 autonomic elements} to the empire {ie. #81
elements of the DAO as Commonwealth}.

- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/images/enneadgrapple.gif

I once had a discussion with my oncologist (Burkitts Lymphoma) who had a
sensitivity towards Jewish Kabbalah belief--whether this architecture
could be deployed to manage treatment procedures.

If I might just add another thought here with respects to origins of
noumenclature [which is equally applicable to homeopathy from my view of
the discussion so far] regarding its mechanism of practice--that these
systems tend to have kabbalistic paradigms as their basis.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caduceus

The Caduceus is such a symbol... and its Confusion!

Post by Ted L

Bukakke started out full of arrogance and aggression

I've never seen an Irony-o-meter die laughing before...

It is hilarious, Bukakke the atheist StormTrooper has a hissy fit and
folds faster than the deckchairs on the Titanic!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAA

When someone mentions "irony", fasgnadh, it usually means that

someone else (in this case, you) has completely missed something that is
obvious to everyone else.

Post by Dr. House
In such circumstances, saying "bwaaaaahaha" merely confirms that you

didn't get it, and still don't get it.

Post by Dr. House
Here's a hint: review this thread (just the two bits above your

"bwahaha") and try to work out the (unintentional) humorous content. If
you still don't get it, then that's stiff, don't come to me, or the rest
of the group. You're clearly not up to it.
As god of the high-road and the market-place Hermes was perhaps above
all else the patron of commerce and the fat purse: as a corollary, he
was the special protector of the traveling salesman. As spokesman for
the gods, he not only brought peace on earth (occasionally even the
peace of death), but his silver-tongued eloquence could always make the
worse appear the better cause. From this latter point of view, would not
his symbol be suitable for certain Congressmen, all medical quacks, book
agents and purveyors of vacuum cleaners, rather than for the
straight-thinking, straight-speaking therapist? As conductor of the dead
to their subterranean abode, his emblem would seem more appropriate on a
hearse than on a physician's car. [ref: Wikipedia
2009:Confusion_with_the_Caduceus]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_of_Asclepius#Confusion_with_the_Caduceus

And secondly is the kabbalistic mechanistic notion that each of the
unique 729 x 2 = 1458 (male/female) appraisals and Dynamic Natural
Associators within the systems core operate as daemons or dialectic
temporal (distinct from any chronological steeping and calendaring
orientation) containers.

ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of
1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and substantiation of Christian
identity.

Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are (only)
one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present His laws
th[r]ough”, that their use is “not intrinsic to Him, but (rather) a
mechanism that He willfully chose” among an infinite number of them. As
such, nothing is other than as He wills it to [be]...

http://www.torah.org/learning/ramchal/classes/section1-18.html

As you can see, the latest version of the vCube.html document (Safari /
limited Firefox only) provides support for search parameters to the
balanced ternary distributed system which circumscribes the unity of our
semantical engine for associating and hosting religious belief and their
value systems.

http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:1,row:3,col:2

supported options include:

?date:2009.5.16 <-- displays noumenon entry for date 16 May
?time:15.24 <-- displays noumenon entry for time 3.24 pm
?zen:1,row:3,col:2 <-- noumenon entry #10 for 17 July
?nous:45 <-- noumenon entry #45
?telos:237 <-- hierarchy of understanding

That this architecture is compatible with Jewish belief of the Old
Testament, the Christian belief of the New Testament era and as a
portable language independent encyclical architecture and hermeneutic to
the Scriptures, it is superior to the portability of the Koran.

- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

dolf

2009-05-16 22:28:44 UTC

The GRAPPLE paradigm as a Balanced Ternary Distributed System, maps to
the Chinese DAOist (#81 element, ternary number theory) and I-Ching (H64
elements as binary apparatus) to produce by extrusion, Hebrew and other
language based categories of understanding by deploying this in
conjunction with a chronological syllogism, or logical appeal: [Greek:
syllismos meaning conclusion, inference], where usually the categorical
syllogism—such as: "No servant can serve two masters: for either he will
hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and
despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and
they derided him."

The pretension-MALAKOS as onomantick basis to Pythagorean and Egyptian
marriage mysticism as BINARY apparatus and Christian identity as
ARSENOKOITE is set in contrast to the TERNARY nature of the CHINESE
perspective of this same cosmology. There is a logical mantric and manic
contention between Pythagoras' Binary apparatus of number as
HETEROS-MARRIAGE mysticism and the Chinese use of the 64 elements of the
Changes as an equivalent binary apparatus. As to God's syllogistic
definition of piety-monogenes derived from marriage-monogamous
gamogenesis, not ours:

Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
[Genesis 2:24]

Abomination before God: "If a man lie down with men as he lieth with
women" [Leviticus 18:22], "and women with women as with men." [Romans 2:26]

Involving a kind of logical argument in which one proposition as the
conclusion or Telos [#2187 = 3^7 or 'oth cycle: #2184 / #6000 =
122J3W1D] is inferred from two others [the major premise: which contains
the law of that will as 7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle] and
[the minor premise: which contains the command to behave in accordance
with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the law: x 49
= 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March] of a certain form.

THE BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY (AS 10 COMMANDMENTS) IS ASSOCIATED TO A BALANCED
TERNARY DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM
"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men;
but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men
is abomination in the sight of God.

The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man
presseth into it."

#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
Universal Law}, which contains the law of that will:

7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +

#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the
law:

x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +

#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth
as 122J3W1D) = Arch (re'shiyth as 3W1D) + c² [9(9²+1)/2]:

has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie.
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the [21st
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month."
[4Q321]] +

#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1}
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}

vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}

ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of
1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and substantiation of Christian
identity.

"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass [1 John 5:7], than one
tittle of the law to fail: "In his first audience at the Vatican since
his divorce from Diana, Princess of Wales, the Prince was expected to
receive a gift of a "luxury facsimile" of an appeal to Pope Clement VII
in 1530 CE in which English peers asked for the annulment of Henry
VIII’s (1491-1547 CE) marriage to Catherine of Aragon.

This follows after the Telegraph.co.uk Online Newspaper had in the first
week of April reported, that the words "Willyam Thomas, I pray yow pray
for me your lovyng master: Prynce Henry" are from a prayer roll once
belonging to the teenage Henry, who gave the roll to William Thomas, one
of his personal servants in his Privy Chamber, some time between 1505
and 1509 CE, when Henry was the Prince of Wales.

That we are able to determine whether the Monarch was a godly man by
measuring the chronological steeping to the Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon
as intellectual property and hypostatic metashematizo of homoousion. The
prayer roll will be shown in public for the first time at the British
Library's exhibition Henry VIII: Man and Monarch, which opens later this
month and marks the 500th anniversary of Henry's accession to the
throne. [Copyright and Courtesy Roya Nikkhah, Arts Correspondent,
Telegraph.co.uk 2009.4.4: Exciting discovery reveals Henry VIII as firm
believer in Catholicism]

Pope Benedict XVI, drawing on the analogy of an earthquake that had
several days earlier, struck the Italian Abruzzo region severely
damaging many churches, said "there is another 'ruin' that is far more
serious [to] that of people and communities! Like Francis [of Assisi (c.
1181-1226)], always start with yourselves. We are the first house that
God wants to restore.

If you are always able to renew yourselves in the spirit of the Gospel,
you will continue to assist the pastors of the Church to make more and
more beautiful the Church's face, that of the bride of Christ. The Pope,
now the same as then, expects this of you... Now go and bring to all the
peace and love of Christ the Saviour. May Mary Immaculate, 'Virgin made
Church', accompany you always. And may my Apostolic Blessing, which I
cordially impart to all of you here present, and the entire Franciscan
family, support you as well." [(c) 2009 Zenit News Agency 2009.4.20,
ZE09042008, Benedict XVI's Castel Gandolfo address to the Franciscan
Family: Attracting Christian Men and Women of All Ages]

The original appeal attributed to a hoax in news reports of 2009.4.20,
spoke of an important document in the history of the Reformation, which
is kept in the Vatican’s secret archives. But I've repeated here the
substance of the hocus-pocus {ie. hax pax max Deus adimax: material
objections by which to undertake various transformations related to
artificial or natural phenomena} amongst the hoi-polloi who may
recognize this hoity-toity and historical impunity to the Sovereign
autonomic right to regulative freewill as the ‘right to remain silent’
and ‘presumption of innocence’ under the Commonwealth amounts to Treason.

According to reports, Benedict XVI intends the gift as a good-will
gesture to assist in the healing of relations between the Vatican and
the Church of England. But some believe the guesture originates from a
parody of the Roman Catholic liturgy of the eucharist, which contains
the phrase "Hoc est enim corpus meum". This explanation goes back to
speculations by the Anglican prelate John Tillotson (1630-1694), who
wrote in 1694: "In all probability those common juggling words of hocus
pocus are nothing else but a corruption of hoc est corpus, by way of
ridiculous imitation of the priests of the Church of Rome in their trick
of Transubstantiation."

Or it may simply be imitation Latin with no meaning, made up to impress
people: "I will speak of one man... that went about in King James his
time... who called himself, The Kings Majesties most excellent Hocus
Pocus, and so was he called, because that at the playing of every Trick,
he used to say, Hocus pocus, tontus talontus, vade celeriter jubeo, a
dark composure of words, to blind the eyes of the beholders, to make his
Trick pass the more currently without discovery, because when the eye
and the ear of the beholder are both earnestly busied, the Trick is not
so easily discovered, nor the Imposture discerned." [According to
Wikipedia Sources 2009: Thomas Ady, A Candle in the Dark, 1656]

However, it will also serve as a reminder of the schism rooted in Henry
VIII’s battles with the Holy See over the binding nature of marriage: "I
have read in Times Online that, for the occasion of the forthcoming
visit of the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall, the Pope is to
gift his illustrious visitors a fascimile of the 1530 CE appeal by
English peers to Pope Clement VII asking for the annulment of Henry
VIII's marriage to Catherine of Aragon (From the Times April 20, 'The
Pope's gift...' Richard Owen, Rome) This news is completely untrue and
has no basis whatsoever in fact. I would ask you to issue an immediate
and unambiguous denial. Yours faithfully" [Federico Lombardi S J, Holy
See Press Office, Vatican City 2009.4.20]

The Prince was the first senior member of the Royal Family to marry a
divorcée since Edward VIII [who had to abdicate in 1936 to marry the
American Wallis Simpson. The Roman Catholic Church considers marriage a
legal and sacred bond "which cannot be broken using temporal laws"].
According to erroneous media reports, the Prince was expected, to be the
first to receive a gift as facsimile of the document from the Pope.
[Copyright and Courtesy Foreign Staff Reporters, Telegraph.co.uk
2009.4.20: Charles and Camilla to be reminded of Pope's view of divorce]

Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth
adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband
committeth adultery.'" [Luke 16:13-18 (KJV)]

Post by Ted L
Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother,
and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. "(c.f. Genesis
2:24)
Abomination before God: if a man lie down with men as he lieth with women
(Leviticus 18:22), and women with women as with men (Romans 2:26).
--
God's definitions, not ours.

It is your definition that claims this is God's definition. Got
proof?
Eating shellfish is an abomination according to your source. What are
you going to do about all the shellfish eaters? Shellfish consumption
is measured by the ton. Doesn't that make it much worse that any gay
issue?
Regards,
House

Post by Ted L

Bukakke started out full of arrogance and aggression

I've never seen an Irony-o-meter die laughing before...

It is hilarious, Bukakke the atheist StormTrooper has a hissy fit and
folds faster than the deckchairs on the Titanic!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAA

When someone mentions "irony", fasgnadh, it usually means that

someone else (in this case, you) has completely missed something that is
obvious to everyone else.

Post by Dr. House
In such circumstances, saying "bwaaaaahaha" merely confirms that you

didn't get it, and still don't get it.

Post by Dr. House
Here's a hint: review this thread (just the two bits above your

Ted L

2009-05-17 01:28:47 UTC

Eating shellfish is an abomination according to your source. What are
you going to do about all the shellfish eaters? Shellfish consumption
is measured by the ton. Doesn't that make it much worse that any gay
issue?

"Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an
abomination unto you."
Shellfish and the like were abominations unto the eaters, not unto
God.

Sodomy is an abomination before God. (Deut 23:17-18)

And the abominable will be cast into the Lake of Fire, which is the
Second Death. (Revelation 20:8), except those who've repented before
their first appointed death.
Repent or perish (Luke 13:3,5)

dolf

2009-05-17 02:01:32 UTC

Post by Ted L
Sodomy is an abomination before God. (Deut 23:17-18)
And the abominable will be cast into the Lake of Fire, which is the
Second Death. (Revelation 20:8), except those who've repented before
their first appointed death.
Repent or perish (Luke 13:3,5)

The GRAPPLE paradigm as a Balanced Ternary Distributed System, maps to
the Chinese DAOist (#81 element, ternary number theory) and I-Ching (H64
elements as binary apparatus) to produce by extrusion, Hebrew and other
language based categories of understanding by deploying this in
conjunction with a chronological syllogism, or logical appeal: [Greek:
syllismos meaning conclusion, inference], where usually the categorical
syllogism—such as: "No servant can serve two masters: for either he will
hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and
despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and
they derided him."

The pretension-MALAKOS as onomantick basis to Pythagorean and Egyptian
marriage mysticism as BINARY apparatus and Christian identity as
ARSENOKOITE is set in contrast to the TERNARY nature of the CHINESE
perspective of this same cosmology. There is a logical mantric and manic
contention between Pythagoras' BINARY apparatus of number as
HETEROS-MARRIAGE mysticism and the Chinese use of the 64 equilibrium
elements of the Changes as functionally an equivalent BINARY apparatus.
As to God's syllogistic definition of piety-monogenes derived from
marriage-monogamous gamogenesis, not ours:

Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
[Genesis 2:24]

Abomination before God: "If a man lie down with men as he lieth with
women" [Leviticus 18:22], "and women with women as with men." [Romans 2:26]

Involving a kind of logical argument in which one proposition as the
conclusion or Telos [#2187 = 37 or 'oth cycle: #2184 / #6000 = 122J3W1D]
is inferred from two others [the major premise: which contains the law
of that will as 7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle] and [the
minor premise: which contains the command to behave in accordance with
the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the law: x 49 = 6J
or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox Wednesday 20
March] of a certain form.

"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men;
but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men
is abomination in the sight of God.

The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man
presseth into it."

THE BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY (AS 10 COMMANDMENTS) IS ASSOCIATED TO A BALANCED
TERNARY DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM

#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
Universal Law}, which contains the law of that will:

7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +

#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the
law:

x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +

#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth
as 122J3W1D) = Arch (re'shiyth as 3W1D) + c² [9(9²+1)/2]:

has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie.
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the [21st
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month."
[4Q321]] +

#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1}
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}

vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}

ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto 25
March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.

The Kabbalistic mechanistic notion presented here, is that each of the
unique 729 x 2 = 1458 (male/female) appraisals and Dynamic Natural
Associators within the systems core operate as daemons or dialectic
temporal (distinct from any chronological steeping and calendaring
orientation of them as) containers. Such origins of noumenclature which
is equally applicable to homeopathy from my view of the public Internet
discussion so far, regarding its mechanism of practice as it is for an
oncologist managing chemotherapy treatment procedures--that these
systems tend to have Kabbalistic paradigms as their semiotic basis. The
Caduceus is such a symbol, whose history of common usage, serves as a
suitable parable on confusion:

"As god of the high-road and the market-place Hermes was perhaps above
all else the patron of commerce and the fat purse: as a corollary, he
was the special protector of the traveling salesman. As spokesman for
the gods, he not only brought peace on earth (occasionally even the
peace of death), but his silver-tongued eloquence could always make the
worse appear the better cause. From this latter point of view, would not
his symbol be suitable for certain Congressmen, all medical quacks, book
agents and purveyors of vacuum cleaners, rather than for the
straight-thinking, straight-speaking therapist? As conductor of the dead
to their subterranean abode, his emblem would seem more appropriate on a
hearse than on a physician's car." [ref: Wikipedia 2009:Confusion with
the Caduceus]

Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are (only)
one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present His laws
through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but (rather) a
mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number of them. As
such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that His choice of
the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just one of an
infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have opted for. For,
not only are the laws of nature one of His "inventions", but the very
fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process, function, components,
properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that wasn’t at all mandatory!
[(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da at Tevunot -- The Knowing
Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]

"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass [1 John 5:7], than one
tittle of the law to fail: "In his first audience at the Vatican since
his divorce from Diana, Princess of Wales, the Prince was expected to
receive a gift of a "luxury facsimile" of an appeal to Pope Clement VII
in 1530 CE in which English peers asked for the annulment of Henry
VIII’s (1491-1547 CE) marriage to Catherine of Aragon.

This follows after the Telegraph.co.uk Online Newspaper had in the first
week of April reported, that the words "Willyam Thomas, I pray yow pray
for me your lovyng master: Prynce Henry" are from a prayer roll once
belonging to the teenage Henry, who gave the roll to William Thomas, one
of his personal servants in his Privy Chamber, some time between 1505
and 1509 CE, when Henry was the Prince of Wales.

That we are able to determine whether the Monarch was a godly man by
measuring the chronological steeping to the Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon
as intellectual property and hypostatic metashematizo of homoousion. The
prayer roll will be shown in public for the first time at the British
Library's exhibition Henry VIII: Man and Monarch, which opens later this
month and marks the 500th anniversary of Henry's accession to the
throne. [Copyright and Courtesy Roya Nikkhah, Arts Correspondent,
Telegraph.co.uk 2009.4.4: Exciting discovery reveals Henry VIII as firm
believer in Catholicism]

Pope Benedict XVI, drawing on the analogy of an earthquake that had
several days earlier, struck the Italian Abruzzo region severely
damaging many churches, said "there is another 'ruin' that is far more
serious [to] that of people and communities! Like Francis [of Assisi (c.
1181-1226)], always start with yourselves. We are the first house that
God wants to restore.

If you are always able to renew yourselves in the spirit of the Gospel,
you will continue to assist the pastors of the Church to make more and
more beautiful the Church's face, that of the bride of Christ. The Pope,
now the same as then, expects this of you... Now go and bring to all the
peace and love of Christ the Saviour. May Mary Immaculate, 'Virgin made
Church', accompany you always. And may my Apostolic Blessing, which I
cordially impart to all of you here present, and the entire Franciscan
family, support you as well." [(c) 2009 Zenit News Agency 2009.4.20,
ZE09042008, Benedict XVI's Castel Gandolfo address to the Franciscan
Family: Attracting Christian Men and Women of All Ages]

The original appeal attributed to a hoax in news reports of 2009.4.20,
spoke of an important document in the history of the Reformation, which
is kept in the Vatican’s secret archives. But I've repeated here the
substance of the hocus-pocus {ie. hax pax max Deus adimax: material
objections by which to undertake various transformations related to
artificial or natural phenomena} amongst the hoi-polloi who may
recognize this hoity-toity and historical impunity to the Sovereign
autonomic right to regulative freewill as the ‘right to remain silent’
and ‘presumption of innocence’ under the Commonwealth amounts to Treason.

According to reports, Benedict XVI intends the gift as a good-will
gesture to assist in the healing of relations between the Vatican and
the Church of England. But some believe the guesture originates from a
parody of the Roman Catholic liturgy of the eucharist, which contains
the phrase "Hoc est enim corpus meum". This explanation goes back to
speculations by the Anglican prelate John Tillotson (1630-1694), who
wrote in 1694: "In all probability those common juggling words of hocus
pocus are nothing else but a corruption of hoc est corpus, by way of
ridiculous imitation of the priests of the Church of Rome in their trick
of Transubstantiation."

Or it may simply be imitation Latin with no meaning, made up to impress
people: "I will speak of one man... that went about in King James his
time... who called himself, The Kings Majesties most excellent Hocus
Pocus, and so was he called, because that at the playing of every Trick,
he used to say, Hocus pocus, tontus talontus, vade celeriter jubeo, a
dark composure of words, to blind the eyes of the beholders, to make his
Trick pass the more currently without discovery, because when the eye
and the ear of the beholder are both earnestly busied, the Trick is not
so easily discovered, nor the Imposture discerned." [According to
Wikipedia Sources 2009: Thomas Ady, A Candle in the Dark, 1656]

However, it will also serve as a reminder of the schism rooted in Henry
VIII’s battles with the Holy See over the binding nature of marriage: "I
have read in Times Online that, for the occasion of the forthcoming
visit of the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall, the Pope is to
gift his illustrious visitors a fascimile of the 1530 CE appeal by
English peers to Pope Clement VII asking for the annulment of Henry
VIII's marriage to Catherine of Aragon (From the Times April 20, 'The
Pope's gift...' Richard Owen, Rome) This news is completely untrue and
has no basis whatsoever in fact. I would ask you to issue an immediate
and unambiguous denial. Yours faithfully" [Federico Lombardi S J, Holy
See Press Office, Vatican City 2009.4.20]

The Prince was the first senior member of the Royal Family to marry a
divorcée since Edward VIII [who had to abdicate in 1936 to marry the
American Wallis Simpson. The Roman Catholic Church considers marriage a
legal and sacred bond "which cannot be broken using temporal laws"].
According to erroneous media reports, the Prince was expected, to be the
first to receive a gift as facsimile of the document from the Pope.
[Copyright and Courtesy Foreign Staff Reporters, Telegraph.co.uk
2009.4.20: Charles and Camilla to be reminded of Pope's view of divorce]

Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth
adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband
committeth adultery.'" [Luke 16:13-18 (KJV)]

- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

Carl

2009-05-17 17:47:39 UTC

Your GRAPPEL is nothing more than a fraud, dolf/aaron/whatever personality
is posting this week. This post of yours, like most of your posts is
incoherant. It illustrates the mental illness that you admitted to. Please
seek psychiatric counseling before you become a danger to yourself or
others.

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/

dolf

2009-05-17 20:31:41 UTC

Got any proof of that?

Your GRAPPLE is nothing more than a fraud, dolf/aaron/whatever

personality

is posting this week. This post of yours, like most of your posts is
incoherent. It illustrates the mental illness that you admitted to.

Please

seek psychiatric counseling before you become a danger to yourself or
others.

"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men;
but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men
is abomination in the sight of God.

The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man
presseth into it."

THE BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY (AS 10 COMMANDMENTS) IS ASSOCIATED TO A BALANCED
TERNARY DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM
#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
Universal Law}, which contains the law of that will:

7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +

#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the
law:

x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +

#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth
as 122J3W1D) = Arch (re'shiyth as 3W1D) + c² [9(9²+1)/2]:

has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie.
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the [21st
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month."
[4Q321]] +

#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1}
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}

vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}

ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto 25
March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.

The Kabbalistic mechanistic notion presented here, is that each of the
unique 729 x 2 = 1458 (male/female) appraisals and Dynamic Natural
Associators within the systems core operate as daemons or dialectic
temporal (distinct from any chronological steeping and calendaring
orientation of them as) containers. Such origins of noumenclature which
is equally applicable to homeopathy from my view of the public Internet
discussion so far, regarding its mechanism of practice as it is for an
oncologist managing chemotherapy treatment procedures--that these
systems tend to have Kabbalistic paradigms as their semiotic basis. The
Caduceus is such a symbol, whose history of common usage, serves as a
suitable parable on confusion:

"As god of the high-road and the market-place Hermes was perhaps above
all else the patron of commerce and the fat purse: as a corollary, he
was the special protector of the traveling salesman. As spokesman for
the gods, he not only brought peace on earth (occasionally even the
peace of death), but his silver-tongued eloquence could always make the
worse appear the better cause. From this latter point of view, would not
his symbol be suitable for certain Congressmen, all medical quacks, book
agents and purveyors of vacuum cleaners, rather than for the
straight-thinking, straight-speaking therapist? As conductor of the dead
to their subterranean abode, his emblem would seem more appropriate on a
hearse than on a physician's car." [ref: Wikipedia 2009:Confusion with
the Caduceus]

Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are (only)
one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present His laws
through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but (rather) a
mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number of them. As
such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that His choice of
the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just one of an
infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have opted for. For,
not only are the laws of nature one of His "inventions", but the very
fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process, function, components,
properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that wasn’t at all mandatory!
[(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da at Tevunot -- The Knowing
Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]

"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass [1 John 5:7], than one
tittle of the law to fail. Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth
another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put
away from her husband committeth adultery.'" [Luke 16:13-18 (KJV)]

- dolf

Barry OGrady

2009-05-18 12:22:21 UTC

Post by dolf
Got any proof of that?

Yes. See below.

Your GRAPPLE is nothing more than a fraud, dolf/aaron/whatever

personality

is posting this week. This post of yours, like most of your posts is
incoherent. It illustrates the mental illness that you admitted to.

Please

seek psychiatric counseling before you become a danger to yourself or
others.

"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men;
but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men
is abomination in the sight of God.
The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man
presseth into it."
THE BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY (AS 10 COMMANDMENTS) IS ASSOCIATED TO A BALANCED
TERNARY DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM
#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +
#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the
x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +
#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth
has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie.
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the [21st
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month."
[4Q321]] +
#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1}
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}
vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}
ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto 25
March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.
The Kabbalistic mechanistic notion presented here, is that each of the
unique 729 x 2 = 1458 (male/female) appraisals and Dynamic Natural
Associators within the systems core operate as daemons or dialectic
temporal (distinct from any chronological steeping and calendaring
orientation of them as) containers. Such origins of noumenclature which
is equally applicable to homeopathy from my view of the public Internet
discussion so far, regarding its mechanism of practice as it is for an
oncologist managing chemotherapy treatment procedures--that these
systems tend to have Kabbalistic paradigms as their semiotic basis. The
Caduceus is such a symbol, whose history of common usage, serves as a
"As god of the high-road and the market-place Hermes was perhaps above
all else the patron of commerce and the fat purse: as a corollary, he
was the special protector of the traveling salesman. As spokesman for
the gods, he not only brought peace on earth (occasionally even the
peace of death), but his silver-tongued eloquence could always make the
worse appear the better cause. From this latter point of view, would not
his symbol be suitable for certain Congressmen, all medical quacks, book
agents and purveyors of vacuum cleaners, rather than for the
straight-thinking, straight-speaking therapist? As conductor of the dead
to their subterranean abode, his emblem would seem more appropriate on a
hearse than on a physician's car." [ref: Wikipedia 2009:Confusion with
the Caduceus]
Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, are (only)
one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present His laws
through, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but (rather) a
mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number of them. As
such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that His choice of
the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just one of an
infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have opted for. For,
not only are the laws of nature one of His "inventions", but the very
fact that thered be "nature (ie. process, function, components,
properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that wasnt at all mandatory!
[(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da at Tevunot -- The Knowing
Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]
"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass [1 John 5:7], than one
tittle of the law to fail. Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth
another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put
away from her husband committeth adultery.'" [Luke 16:13-18 (KJV)]
- dolf

Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og

The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by
an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason,
observation, and experience merits everlasting pain,
is too absurd for refutation, and can be relieved
only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and
ignorance called 'faith.'
[Robert Green Ingersoll]

dolf

2009-05-18 13:23:39 UTC

You've irrationally made that comment before--manic mantra?

Post by dolf
Got any proof of that?

Yes. See below.
The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by
an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason,
observation, and experience merits everlasting pain,
is too absurd for refutation, and can be relieved
only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and
ignorance called 'faith.' [Robert Green Ingersoll]

Barry

2009-05-18 15:24:49 UTC

Post by dolf
You've irrationally made that comment before--manic mantra?

You are repeating yourself.

Post by dolf
Got any proof of that?

dolf

2009-05-18 20:16:44 UTC

Is autism your problem--why do you see the need to afflict others with
your problem?

- dolf

Post by Barry

Post by dolf
You've irrationally made that comment before--manic mantra?

You are repeating yourself.

Post by dolf
Got any proof of that?

Barry

2009-05-19 02:01:35 UTC

Post by dolf
Is autism your problem--why do you see the need to afflict others with
your problem?

You are repeating yourself.

Post by dolf
- dol[t]

dolf

2009-05-18 20:24:00 UTC

Is autism your problem--why do you see the need to afflict others with
your infliction?

- dolf

Post by Barry

Post by dolf
You've irrationally made that comment before--manic mantra?

You are repeating yourself.

Post by dolf
Got any proof of that?

Dr. House

2009-05-17 02:06:23 UTC

Post by Ted L

"Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an
abomination unto you."
Shellfish and the like were abominations unto the eaters, not unto
God.
Sodomy is an abomination before God. (Deut 23:17-18)
And the abominable will be cast into the Lake of Fire, which is the
Second Death. (Revelation 20:8), except those who've repented before
their first appointed death.
Repent or perish (Luke 13:3,5)

Lev 18:8 The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it
is thy father's nakedness.
Violated by Reuben - Gen 35:22

Lev 18:9 The nakedness of thy sister, the daughter of thy father, or
daughter of thy mother, whether she be born at home, or born abroad,
even their nakedness thou shalt not uncover.
Violated by Amnom, son of David and Crown Prince of Israel. - 2 Sam
13:14

Lev 18:18 Neither shalt thou take a wife to her sister, to vex her, to
uncover her nakedness, beside the other in her life time.
Violated by Israel himself when he married Rachel.

All of them are abominations and even heros from the Bible have
committed abominations.

Lev 18:24-29 "Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for
in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: And
the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon
it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. Ye shall
therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any
of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any
stranger that sojourneth among you: (For all these abominations have
the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is
defiled;) That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as
it spued out the nations that were before you. For whosoever shall
commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them
shall be cut off from among their people."

The book is not consistent. What gives us the right to cherry pick?

God bless,

House

Ted L

2009-05-17 02:29:06 UTC

<SNIP> All of them are abominations and even heros from the Bible have

Post by Dr. House
committed abominations.

Heros? They all had the same sin problem you and I have.

"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life
through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23)

"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted
out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the
Lord" (Acts 3:19)

Dr. House

2009-05-17 02:45:38 UTC

Post by Ted L
<SNIP> All of them are abominations and even heros from the Bible have

Post by Dr. House
committed abominations.

Heros? They all had the same sin problem you and I have.
"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life
through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23)
"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted
out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the
Lord" (Acts 3:19)

Oh, so now an abomination is just a sin like any other sin - no more
and no less?

Well, that was easy.

God bless,

House

<Kelly>

2009-05-17 02:49:36 UTC

Post by Ted L
<SNIP> All of them are abominations and even heros from the Bible have

Post by Dr. House
committed abominations.

Heros? They all had the same sin problem you and I have.
"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life
through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23)
"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted
out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the
Lord" (Acts 3:19)

Oh, so now an abomination is just a sin like any other sin - no more
and no less?
Well, that was easy.

Ted seems to be easily confused.

2009-05-18 02:33:03 UTC

On Sat, 16 May 2009 19:49:36 -0700 (PDT), "<Kelly>"

Post by Ted L
<SNIP> All of them are abominations and even heros from the Bible have

Post by Dr. House
committed abominations.

Heros? They all had the same sin problem you and I have.
"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life
through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23)
"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted
out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the
Lord" (Acts 3:19)

Oh, so now an abomination is just a sin like any other sin - no more
and no less?
Well, that was easy.

Ted seems to be easily confused.

Oh, the iron!!!
Pot calling the kettle black.

::: Jesus is LORD :::

2009-05-17 22:10:41 UTC

Post by Ted L
<SNIP> All of them are abominations and even heros from the Bible have

Post by Dr. House
committed abominations.

Heros? They all had the same sin problem you and I have.
"All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." Romans 3:23
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life
through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23)
"Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted
out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the
Lord" (Acts 3:19)

Amen.

dolf

2009-05-17 13:32:22 UTC

Did someone say SIN?

I have recently added the meta for the categories of understanding which
don't have a temporal connection--I think of this as the mechanistic and
dertministic sin equivalent of the lint filter within a clothes dryer.

var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531:
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}

I am able to look at the dialectic container or daemon in which these occur.

#148 / #72
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:8,nous:41

#184
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:8,nous:40

#196 (#70, #30, #40, #50, #6 Our secret sin)
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:1,nous:16

#100, #6, #90 to be astir, to move; to awake (from sleep or from death),
to rise from the dead; to arouse oneself; to hasten on.

dolf

2009-05-17 13:33:43 UTC

Did someone say SIN?

I have recently added the meta for the categories of understanding which
don't have a temporal connection--I think of this as the mechanistic and
deterministic sin equivalent of the lint filter within a clothes dryer.

var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531:
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}

I am able to look at the dialectic container or daemon in which these occur.

#148 / #72
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:8,nous:41

#184
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:8,nous:40

#196 (#70, #30, #40, #50, #6 Our secret sin)
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:1,nous:16

#100, #6, #90 to be astir, to move; to awake (from sleep or from death),
to rise from the dead; to arouse oneself; to hasten on.

Carl

2009-05-17 17:47:36 UTC

Post by dolf
I have recently added the meta for the categories of understanding which
don't have a temporal connection--I think of this as the mechanistic and
deterministic sin equivalent of the lint filter within a clothes dryer.

dolf, this post of yours is incoherant. It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/

Dr. House

2009-05-17 21:46:53 UTC

On May 17, 10:47 am, "Carl" <***@nettally.com> wrote:

[...]

Post by Carl
It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

If you really think he is a danger to himself and others then you
should stop posting things that might drive him over the edge.

<Kelly>

2009-05-17 22:11:54 UTC

Post by Dr. House
[...]

Post by Carl
It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

If you really think he is a danger to himself and others then you
should stop posting things that might drive him over the edge.

You have no proof that anything is going to drive him "over the
edge". If you do, however, please feel free to post it here.

Dr. House

2009-05-17 22:47:55 UTC

Post by Dr. House
[...]

Post by Carl
It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

If you really think he is a danger to himself and others then you
should stop posting things that might drive him over the edge.

You have no proof that anything is going to drive him "over the
edge". If you do, however, please feel free to post it here.

If I had proof of the future wouldn't I be better off cheating at the
stock market? You are right in that I don't have a crystal ball or
working tarot cards, or any other way to know the future. This does
not change my advise. If you think someone is a danger then don't do
things that might drive them over the edge. Likewise, if you think at
least one of the gun's chambers might have a bullet in it - then don't
play Russia Roulette. It's wisdom in action.

However last time I posted proof of the industry standard of not being
confrontational with people who are what Carl claims he believes
someone to be - you didn't seem to like that conversation very much.

God bless,

House

Rod

2009-05-18 00:22:01 UTC

Post by Dr. House
[...]

Post by Carl
It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

If you really think he is a danger to himself and others then you
should stop posting things that might drive him over the edge.

You have no proof that anything is going to drive him "over the
edge". If you do, however, please feel free to post it here.

If I had proof of the future wouldn't I be better off cheating at the
stock market? You are right in that I don't have a crystal ball or
working tarot cards, or any other way to know the future. This does
not change my advise. If you think someone is a danger then don't do
things that might drive them over the edge. Likewise, if you think at
least one of the gun's chambers might have a bullet in it - then don't
play Russia Roulette. It's wisdom in action.
However last time I posted proof of the industry standard of not being
confrontational with people who are what Carl claims he believes
someone to be - you didn't seem to like that conversation very much.
God bless,
House

Got a clue yet ?

dolf

2009-05-18 00:54:38 UTC

We can think of the mechanistic and deterministic sinful nature against
the autonomic process of right to life in which human beings routinely
engage, as functionally equivalent to the lint filter within a clothes
dryer. And to illustrate this by drawing your attention to the
remarkable attributed correspondence which these have to the character
of the Gospel narratives, I have recently added the meta descriptors for
those Categories of Understanding which don't have a deterministic
temporal connection:

var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531:
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}

There is then an ability for us to look at each of the dialectic
containers or daemon in which this notional manifest of 'sin' occurs by
using the vCube.html document with the ?telos:422 and ?zen:7,nous:65
search options.

Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are (only)
one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present His laws
through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but (rather) a
mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number of them. As
such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that His choice of
the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just one of an
infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have opted for. For,
not only are the laws of nature one of His "inventions", but the very
fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process, function, components,
properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that wasn’t at all mandatory!
[(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da at Tevunot -- The Knowing
Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]

- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

Post by Rod
Got a clue yet ?

Post by Dr. House
[...]

Post by Carl
It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

If you really think he is a danger to himself and others then you
should stop posting things that might drive him over the edge.

You have no proof that anything is going to drive him "over the
edge". If you do, however, please feel free to post it here.

If I had proof of the future wouldn't I be better off cheating at the
stock market? You are right in that I don't have a crystal ball or
working tarot cards, or any other way to know the future. This does
not change my advise. If you think someone is a danger then don't do
things that might drive them over the edge. Likewise, if you think at
least one of the gun's chambers might have a bullet in it - then don't
play Russia Roulette. It's wisdom in action.
However last time I posted proof of the industry standard of not being
confrontational with people who are what Carl claims he believes
someone to be - you didn't seem to like that conversation very much.
God bless,
House

[...]

Post by Dr. House
It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

If you really think he is a danger to himself and others then you
should stop posting things that might drive him over the edge.

Barry OGrady

2009-05-18 12:22:22 UTC

Post by Dr. House
God bless,

Prove it.

Post by Dr. House
House

Dr. House

2009-05-18 13:02:58 UTC

Post by Dr. House
God bless,

Prove it.

Pardon? Are you asking me to prove my wish? How does one do that?
Do you mean you want me to prove my wish will come true (I doubt you
mean that) or that you want me to prove my wish is possible?

Regards,

(want me to prove this one as well?)

House

dolf

2009-05-18 13:24:58 UTC

Didn't the pope warn of presumption and vain pretension?

Post by Dr. House
God bless,

Prove it.

Pardon? Are you asking me to prove my wish? How does one do that?
Do you mean you want me to prove my wish will come true (I doubt you
mean that) or that you want me to prove my wish is possible?
Regards,
(want me to prove this one as well?)
House

<Kelly>

2009-05-18 00:35:59 UTC

Post by Dr. House
[...]

Post by Carl
It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

If you really think he is a danger to himself and others then you
should stop posting things that might drive him over the edge.

You have no proof that anything is going to drive him "over the
edge". If you do, however, please feel free to post it here.

Except Carl didn't say he thought Dolf was a danger to anyone - he
said that he would like to see Dolf get help *before* he becomes a
danger to himself or others. It might be wise for you to learn to
read in context before you accuse, House.

Post by Dr. House
However last time I posted proof of the industry standard of not being
confrontational with people who are what Carl claims he believes
someone to be - you didn't seem to like that conversation very much.

Correct. Because I happen to know that the "industry standard" you
posted, isn't an across the board "industry standard".

Dr. House

2009-05-18 00:57:23 UTC

Post by Dr. House
[...]

Post by Carl
It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

If you really think he is a danger to himself and others then you
should stop posting things that might drive him over the edge.

You have no proof that anything is going to drive him "over the
edge". If you do, however, please feel free to post it here.

The context is that Carl is a jerk. It would be nice if Carl was a
bit nice. Not going to happen is it?

So you think that Carl thinks someone will become unstable so Carl is
harassing him before doing so becomes too dangerous? Who is Carl to
presume he knows exactly where the line is?

Correct.

So you want to have it again now?

Post by <Kelly>
Because I happen to know that the "industry standard" you
posted, isn't an across the board "industry standard".

Where are unstable people treated with confrontational disrespect and
harassment? I would like to know this place.

God bless,

House

<Kelly>

2009-05-18 01:02:15 UTC

The context is that Carl is a jerk. It would be nice if Carl was a
bit nice. Not going to happen is it?

I've had an ongoing email relationship with Carl for over a year. He
is definitely not a jerk.

So you think that Carl thinks someone will become unstable so Carl is
harassing him before doing so becomes too dangerous? Who is Carl to
presume he knows exactly where the line is?

You are really taking this entire thing way out of proportion.

Where are unstable people treated with confrontational disrespect and
harassment? I would like to know this place.

The key word is "confrontational" and the answer is all the time.
"Disrespect" and "harassment" are not part of the equation in Carl's
posts. You appear to be looking at this situation from an exaggerated
and subjective viewpoint. It's not possible to reason with someone
who is in the same frame of mind as you are.

Dr. House

2009-05-18 01:11:59 UTC

The context is that Carl is a jerk. It would be nice if Carl was a
bit nice. Not going to happen is it?

I've had an ongoing email relationship with Carl for over a year. He
is definitely not a jerk.

If someone is nice to you then they cannot be not nice to anybody
else?

So you think that Carl thinks someone will become unstable so Carl is
harassing him before doing so becomes too dangerous? Who is Carl to
presume he knows exactly where the line is?

You are really taking this entire thing way out of proportion.

Nine out of ten posts from Carl say the same thing. They are all
about Carl's very negative opinion of one person.

Share with me the right proportion.

Where are unstable people treated with confrontational disrespect and
harassment? I would like to know this place.

The key word is "confrontational" and the answer is all the time.

Cite?

"Disrespect" and "harassment" are not part of the equation in Carl's
posts.

Did you read them?

You appear to be looking at this situation from an exaggerated
and subjective viewpoint. It's not possible to reason with someone
who is in the same frame of mind as you are.

That is a cop out. You can reason with me any time you wish to try.
That you choose to not try doesn't say anything about me.

So tell me what good fruit has come from these hundreds of posts from
Carl calling someone insane?

God bless,

House

<Kelly>

2009-05-18 01:17:01 UTC

Post by Dr. House
If someone is nice to you then they cannot be not nice to anybody
else?

Did I say anything about him being "nice" to me? You are, once again,
reading into what is not even there and drawing conclusions based on
assumption.

Not very wise.

Post by <Kelly>
You are really taking this entire thing way out of proportion.

Nine out of ten posts from Carl say the same thing. They are all
about Carl's very negative opinion of one person.

Yeah...and? You have proven on a regular basis how you read into
what's said and make assumptions about the rest. Have you even
considered that what you see maybe ain't exactly what you think it is?

<snipped remainder unread and unanswered until House decides to look
at the Carl/Dolf issue with more objectivity>

Dr. House

2009-05-18 02:11:54 UTC

Post by Dr. House
If someone is nice to you then they cannot be not nice to anybody
else?

Did I say anything about him being "nice" to me? You are, once again,
reading into what is not even there and drawing conclusions based on
assumption.

You implied it.
"I've had an ongoing email relationship with Carl for over a year. He
is definitely not a jerk."

How does your email relationship make Carl not a jerk? I can point to
Carl being a jerk anywhere you like. The evidence of that is
everywhere.

Not very wise.

You are not giving me anything to work with. You are not saying
anything beyond your conclusion. I'm asking you about your position.
I'm not getting anything back.

Post by <Kelly>
You are really taking this entire thing way out of proportion.

Nine out of ten posts from Carl say the same thing. They are all
about Carl's very negative opinion of one person.

Yeah...and? You have proven on a regular basis how you read into
what's said and make assumptions about the rest.

Uh where? You mean the place where I ask you to define and support
your position?

Have you even
considered that what you see maybe ain't exactly what you think it is?

I give you opportunities to show that left and right but you are not
interested. Don't blame me if you refuse to try.

How am I suppose to look at what you don't write? Talk if you want to
talk. Don't talk if you do not want to talk. Don't blame me if you
didn't present an argument or even an explanation.

Meanwhile Carl will continue to harass someone with the same negative
spam.

God bless,

House

dolf

2009-05-18 04:18:40 UTC

I've just said goodbye to my street-kid and left him with the
perspective of the contempt with which I hold towards Australians of the
Irish, Scottish and British ancestry over their disrespect to dialog of
Dutch cultural achievement within their view of achievements in
autonomic rights, withstanding forces of nature and the seas.

We can think of the mechanistic and deterministic sinful nature against
the autonomic process of right to life in which human beings routinely
engage, as functionally equivalent to the lint filter within a clothes
dryer. And to illustrate this by drawing your attention to the
remarkable attributed correspondence which these have to the character
of the Gospel narratives, I have recently added the meta descriptors for
those Categories of Understanding which don't have a deterministic
temporal connection:

var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531:
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}

There is then an ability for us to look at each of the dialectic
containers or daemon in which this notional manifest of 'sin' occurs by
using the vCube.html document with the ?telos:422 and ?zen:7,nous:65
search options.

There is a Natural and Common Law precedent for regarding these
META_NONTEMPORAL {} deterministic Categories of Understanding as
operating within an economic capacity as function under the Sovereign
State, is an equivalency to our earlier discussion of meta descriptor
[#174 / #209 - Good or #174 / #142 - Bad] inclination and moral
dichotomy associated with the allotment of Crown Land title--deeds [#209
- #8 #200 #1 = To ease the bowels; excrements, dung] under the colonies
as nomarchy in 1852 and the liabilities of Section IX [#142 - #40, #6,
#90, #1, #5 = Out-goings, descents or lineages; privies or sewers] in
the Letters Patent of 1900 to the Australian Commonwealth of 1901, it
may well be a case of the Lieutenant Governor exercising the natural,
regulative and metempirical principles of good governance as ‘certain
powers, functions, and authorities’ declared to be vested within ‘the
office of Governor General and Commander in chief over Our said
Commonwealth of Australia’.

As teleological circumscribing the Letters Patent associated to a
‘private’ status of a carriageway adjoining the North Melbourne exchange
the acrostic ethical overlay for the ‘OTH CYCLE, and of a 27 September
2001 ***@zen: 4, row: 5, col: 7, nous: 63 [Super: #317 / #26 -
Ambiguous Reversals/ Virtue of Gravity; I-Ching: H3 - Initial
Difficulties; Tetra: 3 - Mired, Ego: #232 / #63 - Origins in Reversal/
Consider Beginnings; I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap; Tetra: 62 - Doubt]
requirement for the attendance of the ambulance service at St Andrews
Street, North Melbourne—due to breaches of building security and
trans-substantive adverse reactions to Telstra’s construction in August
1999.

The Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon, is after all, a transexperiental and
transpersonal object onto which time stamped phenomenon is referred, as
to the basis or cause of its sense content. And as a heuristic {ie. a
method of solving problems inand for one which no algorithm is
considered to exist and which therefore depends on inductive reasoning
from past experience of similar problems} attributed to a chronological
(24 hr day / topical year / Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c²
[9(9²+1)/2)]) hermeneutical overlay as behavioral 'a priori', it may be
considered in and of itself a jurisprudent determination as to the
integrity of statements and whether, as the measure of their categorical
nature, are compliant with the natural, regulative free-will and
metempirical principles of our legislation as jurisprudent framework and
accordingly our human, religious and Australian Constitutional rights.

"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass [1 John 5:7], than one
tittle of the law to fail

- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

Post by Dr. House
If someone is nice to you then they cannot be not nice to anybody
else?

Did I say anything about him being "nice" to me? You are, once again,
reading into what is not even there and drawing conclusions based on
assumption.

You implied it.
"I've had an ongoing email relationship with Carl for over a year. He
is definitely not a jerk."
How does your email relationship make Carl not a jerk? I can point to
Carl being a jerk anywhere you like. The evidence of that is
everywhere.

Post by <Kelly>
Not very wise.

You are not giving me anything to work with. You are not saying
anything beyond your conclusion. I'm asking you about your position.
I'm not getting anything back.

Post by <Kelly>
You are really taking this entire thing way out of proportion.

Nine out of ten posts from Carl say the same thing. They are all
about Carl's very negative opinion of one person.

Yeah...and? You have proven on a regular basis how you read into
what's said and make assumptions about the rest.

Uh where? You mean the place where I ask you to define and support
your position?

Post by <Kelly>
Have you even
considered that what you see maybe ain't exactly what you think it is?

I give you opportunities to show that left and right but you are not
interested. Don't blame me if you refuse to try.

Post by <Kelly>
<snipped remainder unread and unanswered until House decides to look
at the Carl/Dolf issue with more objectivity>

How am I suppose to look at what you don't write? Talk if you want to
talk. Don't talk if you do not want to talk. Don't blame me if you
didn't present an argument or even an explanation.
Meanwhile Carl will continue to harass someone with the same negative
spam.
God bless,
House

dolf

2009-05-18 01:24:25 UTC

How is it an Internet persona <Kelly> <***@rocketmail.com> who
claims to be a lesbian female has had this clandestine email
relationship with Carl McCluskey for the past year?

We can think of the mechanistic and deterministic sinful nature against
the autonomic process of right to life in which human beings routinely
engage, as functionally equivalent to the lint filter within a clothes
dryer. And to illustrate this by drawing your attention to the
remarkable attributed correspondence which these have to the character
of the Gospel narratives, I have recently added the meta descriptors for
those Categories of Understanding which don't have a deterministic
temporal connection:

var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531:
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}

There is then an ability for us to look at each of the dialectic
containers or daemon in which this notional manifest of 'sin' occurs by
using the vCube.html document with the ?telos:422 and ?zen:7,nous:65
search options.

Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are (only)
one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present His laws
through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but (rather) a
mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number of them. As
such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that His choice of
the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just one of an
infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have opted for. For,
not only are the laws of nature one of His "inventions", but the very
fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process, function, components,
properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that wasn’t at all mandatory!
[(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da at Tevunot -- The Knowing
Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]

- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

Post by Dr. House
The context is that Carl is a jerk. It would be nice if Carl was a
bit nice. Not going to happen is it?

I've had an ongoing email relationship with Carl for over a year. He
is definitely not a jerk.

Post by Dr. House
So you think that Carl thinks someone will become unstable so Carl is
harassing him before doing so becomes too dangerous? Who is Carl to
presume he knows exactly where the line is?

You are really taking this entire thing way out of proportion.

Post by Dr. House
Where are unstable people treated with confrontational disrespect and
harassment? I would like to know this place.

dolf

2009-05-18 01:14:19 UTC

Don't expect then to have any regard for Americans.

We can think of the mechanistic and deterministic sinful nature against
the autonomic process of right to life in which human beings routinely
engage, as functionally equivalent to the lint filter within a clothes
dryer. And to illustrate this by drawing your attention to the
remarkable attributed correspondence which these have to the character
of the Gospel narratives, I have recently added the meta descriptors for
those Categories of Understanding which don't have a deterministic
temporal connection:

var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531:
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}

There is then an ability for us to look at each of the dialectic
containers or daemon in which this notional manifest of 'sin' occurs by
using the vCube.html document with the ?telos:422 and ?zen:7,nous:65
search options.

Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are (only)
one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present His laws
through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but (rather) a
mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number of them. As
such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that His choice of
the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just one of an
infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have opted for. For,
not only are the laws of nature one of His "inventions", but the very
fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process, function, components,
properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that wasn’t at all mandatory!
[(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da at Tevunot -- The Knowing
Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]

- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

Post by Dr. House
[...]

Post by Carl
It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

If you really think he is a danger to himself and others then you
should stop posting things that might drive him over the edge.

You have no proof that anything is going to drive him "over the
edge". If you do, however, please feel free to post it here.

The context is that Carl is a jerk. It would be nice if Carl was a
bit nice. Not going to happen is it?
So you think that Carl thinks someone will become unstable so Carl is
harassing him before doing so becomes too dangerous? Who is Carl to
presume he knows exactly where the line is?

Correct.

So you want to have it again now?

Post by <Kelly>
Because I happen to know that the "industry standard" you
posted, isn't an across the board "industry standard".

Where are unstable people treated with confrontational disrespect and
harassment? I would like to know this place.
God bless,
House

Post by <Kelly>
[...]

Post by Dr. House
It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

If you really think he is a danger to himself and others then you
should stop posting things that might drive him over the edge.

You have no proof that anything is going to drive him "over the
edge". If you do, however, please feel free to post it here.

dolf

2009-05-18 00:57:38 UTC

Post by Dr. House
[...]

Post by Carl
It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

If you really think he is a danger to himself and others then you
should stop posting things that might drive him over the edge.

You have no proof that anything is going to drive him "over the
edge". If you do, however, please feel free to post it here.

dolf

2009-05-18 00:53:09 UTC

Post by Dr. House
[...]

Post by Carl
It illustrates the mental illness
that you admitted to. Please seek psychiatric counseling before you become a
danger to yourself or others.

If you really think he is a danger to himself and others then you
should stop posting things that might drive him over the edge.

<Kelly>

2009-05-17 02:11:34 UTC

Post by Ted L
"Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an
abomination unto you."
Shellfish and the like were abominations unto the eaters, not unto
God.

Yes, God placed that food prohibition for health reasons. Ever
wondered why?

Post by Ted L
Sodomy is an abomination before God. (Deut 23:17-18)

Hmmm...there's nothing in Deuteronomy 23:17-18 about "sodomy" , Ted
(and nothing in the above, either - just talk of fish and clams). Did
you actually read what it says or did you just skim it? Here - I'll
even post both verses for you so you can see for yourself...

" None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute, nor
shall any of the sons of Israel be a cult prostitute. You shall not
bring the hire of a harlot or the wages of a dog into the house of the
LORD your God for any votive offering, for both of these are an
abomination to the LORD your God." ( Deuteronomy 23:17-18 )

Wanna try again, Ted?

Post by Ted L
And the abominable will be cast into the Lake of Fire, which is the
Second Death. (Revelation 20:8),

Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted. Here, let me
post the verse for you to actually read this time (along with the
corresponding verse 7 which actually gives context...

"When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from
his prison,
and will come out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners
of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together for the war; the
number of them is like the sand of the seashore." ( Revelation 20:8 )

Wow - not only is there nothing in there about "sodomy", but there's
also nothing about what you claimed it said - Lake of Fire, Second
Death, anyone who is suppoed to be "abominable" (but there could be
Yetis there, I suppose ;-)

Wanna try again, Ted?

Post by Ted L
except those who've repented before
their first appointed death.
Repent or perish (Luke 13:3,5)

Hmmm...well, there's nothing in Luke about "sodomy", either. What's
more, Jesus never uttered one recorded word about "sodomy", Ted. But,
just like the previous, I will post the verse you didn't so you can
see that you're kinda confused about what the verses you provided
actually say...

"I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all likewise perish.
Or do you suppose that those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell
and killed them were {worse} culprits than all the men who live in
Jerusalem? I tell you, no, but unless you repent, you will all
likewise perish." ( Luke 13:3-5 )

Good verses, but nothing about "sodomy" or "the abominable" (or even
Yetis). Having a bad reading comprehension day, Ted?

And do you wanna try again?

Rod

2009-05-17 02:25:16 UTC

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Randy ®

2009-05-17 13:09:11 UTC

On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:16 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Which is simply _more_ documented proof she's as conscience
seared a brazen liar as she can possibly be. No one who
claims God endorses homosexuality can possibly be someone who
believes in Christ for salvation, or anything other than a
satanically energized moron.

--
Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
______________________________________________
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www.facebook.com/people/Randy-Faithguard/1088671914
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<Kelly>

2009-05-17 14:16:34 UTC

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:16 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Excuse me? Who is the liar here, Randy Young? Not me - I already
produced the correct version of that verse in Deuteronomy. You
know...the version that is correctly aligned with the actual Hebrew
translation? Here, allow me to post it again:

"None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute, nor
shall any of the sons of Israel be a cult prostitute. You shall not
bring the hire of a harlot or the wages of a dog into the house of
the
LORD your God for any votive offering, for both of these are an
abomination to the LORD your God." ( Deuteronomy 23:17-18 NASB )

You see, Randy - if you knew anything about proper exegesis, you would
understand that because the Hebrew word used by God here is
"qadesh" (male Temple prositute). The same form of the word Hebrew
qadesh is also used in Genesis 38:21-22, I Kings 14:24, I Kings 15:12,
II Kings 23:7, Job 36:14, and Hosea 4:14. In none of these instances
where qadesh is used is there a reference to the improperly translated
"Sodomites" but to the properly translated "cult temple prostitute".

I'm curious - do you always use Bible translations willy-nilly and
pick-and-choose until you find the version that suits your hatred and
fears? Or do you just wrongly divide and misrepresent the Word of
Truth for fun?

Rod

2009-05-17 15:11:25 UTC

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:16 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Excuse me? Who is the liar here, Randy Young? Not me - I already
produced the correct version of that verse in Deuteronomy. You
know...the version that is correctly aligned with the actual Hebrew
"None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute, nor
shall any of the sons of Israel be a cult prostitute. You shall not
bring the hire of a harlot or the wages of a dog into the house of the
LORD your God for any votive offering, for both of these are an
abomination to the LORD your God." ( Deuteronomy 23:17-18 NASB )
You see, Randy - if you knew anything about proper exegesis, you would
understand that because the Hebrew word used by God here is
"qadesh" (male Temple prositute). The same form of the word Hebrew
qadesh is also used in Genesis 38:21-22, I Kings 14:24, I Kings 15:12,
II Kings 23:7, Job 36:14, and Hosea 4:14. In none of these instances
where qadesh is used is there a reference to the improperly translated
"Sodomites" but to the properly translated "cult temple prostitute".
I'm curious - do you always use Bible translations willy-nilly and
pick-and-choose until you find the version that suits your hatred and
fears? Or do you just wrongly divide and misrepresent the Word of
Truth for fun?

You convenientl;y left out the PROPER exegesis that the Jewish
lexicon definition is "a sodomite, pr,consecrated temple prostitute
to astarte or venus, and prostituting himself in her honour.

Can you read, LIAR Seibecke ? A lie by omission is STILL a LIE....

Rod

2009-05-17 20:46:24 UTC

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:16 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Excuse me?

No.

Who is the liar here, Randy Young?

You are.

ASV:

Deu 23:17 There shall be no prostitute of the daughters of Israel,
neither shall there be a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a harlot, or the wages of a
dog, into the house of Jehovah thy God for any vow: for even both these
are an abomination unto Jehovah thy God.

BBE:

Deu 23:17 No daughter of Israel is to let herself be used as a loose
woman for a strange god, and no son of Israel is to give himself to a man.

Deu 23:18 Do not take into the house of the Lord your God, as an
offering for an oath, the price of a loose woman or the money given to
one used for sex purposes in the worship of the gods: for these two
things are disgusting to the Lord your God.

ESV:

Deu 23:17 "None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute,
and none of the sons of Israel shall be a cult prostitute.

Deu 23:18 You shall not bring the fee of a prostitute or the wages of a
dog into the house of the LORD your God in payment for any vow, for both
of these are an abomination to the LORD your God.

KJV:

Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a
sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a
dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these
are abomination unto the LORD thy God.

NJKV:

Deu 23:17 There shalbe no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a
Sodomite of the sonnes of Israel.

Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a
dogge into the house of the Lord thy God for any vow: for euen both
these are abomination vnto the Lord thy God.

Looks like you have been overruled, faggot.

dolf

2009-05-17 21:01:32 UTC

"Looks like you have been overruled, faggot." [Rod
<***@yahoo.com>]

Did someone say SIN?

I have recently added the meta descriptors for the categories of
understanding which don't have a temporal connection--I think of this as
the mechanistic and deterministic sin equivalent of the lint filter
within a clothes dryer.

var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531:
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}

I am able to look at the dialectic container or daemon in which these
occur by using the ?telos:num option

- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html??telos:422

#148 / #72
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:8,nous:41

#184
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:8,nous:40

#196 (#70, #30, #40, #50, #6 Our secret sin)
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:1,nous:16

#100, #6, #90 to be astir, to move; to awake (from sleep or from death),
to rise from the dead; to arouse oneself; to hasten on.

#422 #10, #300, #2, #70, #30 n. The People Returns / #530 - #30, #80,
#10, #4, #6, #400 n. Torches
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:7,nous:65

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:16 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Excuse me?

No.
Who is the liar here, Randy Young?
You are.
Deu 23:17 There shall be no prostitute of the daughters of Israel,
neither shall there be a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a harlot, or the wages of a
dog, into the house of Jehovah thy God for any vow: for even both these
are an abomination unto Jehovah thy God.
Deu 23:17 No daughter of Israel is to let herself be used as a loose
woman for a strange god, and no son of Israel is to give himself to a man.
Deu 23:18 Do not take into the house of the Lord your God, as an
offering for an oath, the price of a loose woman or the money given to
one used for sex purposes in the worship of the gods: for these two
things are disgusting to the Lord your God.
Deu 23:17 "None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute,
and none of the sons of Israel shall be a cult prostitute.
Deu 23:18 You shall not bring the fee of a prostitute or the wages of a
dog into the house of the LORD your God in payment for any vow, for both
of these are an abomination to the LORD your God.
Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a
sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a
dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these
are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Deu 23:17 There shalbe no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a
Sodomite of the sonnes of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a
dogge into the house of the Lord thy God for any vow: for euen both
these are abomination vnto the Lord thy God.
Looks like you have been overruled, faggot.

The Church couches by such proposition, a continuing reliance upon
symbolic theology and philosophy of religion derived from Pythagorean
onomantick hymeneal (HETEROS: MARRIAGE) mysticism as a regime of Roman
Imperial religious/political governance. Which as blasphemy, is a
dynamic contention of opposites expressed between the Roman Imperial
religious/political hymeneal conception of the hyponomos (under law;
subject to law), as its natural and common law association to the
chronological hyponomic character of the hypostatis (eg: 12 x 6J = 72J +
3(3²+1)/2 = 457 BCE + 70 weeks = 33 CE as hypothetical) and the
personality of Jesus (YHVS) Christ--refusing to acknowledge the First
Cause as a Personality.

In this regard Richard Dawkins concedes a notion of God as Zeitgeist:
"In any society there exists a somewhat mysterious consensus, which
changes over the decades, and for which it is not pretentious to use the
German loan-word Zeitgeist {ie. the animating or defining spirit or mood
of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of
the time}." As the experience of a dominant cultural climate that
defines, particularly in Hegelian thinking, an era in the dialectical
progression of a people or the world at large. Hegel's (1770-1831) main
contribution to the formulation of the concept of Volksgeist ('Spirit of
the Nation') is the attribution of a historical character to the
concept. Examples of similar foundational concepts within the Australian
cultural lexicon are 'Qantas Spirit of Australia' and ANZAC. [ref:
Absolute Astronomy.com]

But does Richard Dawkins pretentions upon the German word 'geist' as
spooks, extend to poltergeist projections as well?

I don't get the impression that Dawkins directly rejects the general
concept of 'faith,' but, more importantly, discusses the differences
between scientific/rational thinking (which is dynamic and allows for
revision with the progression of time bringing us closer to the truth)
and the unhealthy, destructive and irrational religious thinking (which
is static, governed by interpretation of the bible, and contains
predetermined truths). Dawkins use of the theory of evolution in that
discussion was not to address the general issue of 'faith', but to
demonstrate the progressive nature in the scientific method. [Science
Blog entry: 2006.11.11 Misunderstanding Dawkins]

Next he'll be claiming that this static within interstitial space {ie.
has a Casimir effect described by quantum field theory} as the product
of mysterious psychokinetic phenomena to unconscious projections due to
psychic conflict, thereby constitutes speech--An electric hair dryer is
such an invention.

Pope Benedict XVI responding to such a disturbing notion at his
University of Jordan address on 9 May 2009 during his détente with the
Muslim world, said that faith and reason support each other. Religion
purifies reason of the temptation to presumption: "And as believers in
the one God we know that human reason is itself God’s gift and that it
soars to its highest plane when suffused with the light of God’s truth.
In fact, when human reason humbly allows itself to be purified by faith,
it is far from weakened; rather, it is strengthened to resist
presumption (was he thinking of Christopher Hitchens?) and to reach
beyond its own limitations."

Nevertheless, Dawkins on page 301 in his book 'The God Delusion'
published in 2006, draws upon this analogy as the progression of ideas,
in relating it to female suffrage. Which he observes, is now universal
in the world's democracies and is conceptually different from what the
common law state did. But this reform, as he suggests is in fact
astonishingly recent. Here are some dates at which women were granted
the vote:

1893 - New Zealand
1902 - Australia
1906 - Finland
1913 - Norway
1920 - United States
1928 - Britain
1945 - France
1946 - Belgium
1971 - Switzerland
2006 - Kuwait

This spread of dates through the twentieth century, Dawkins considers is
a gauge of the shifting Zeitgeist rather than evidence of the modern
regulatory and administrative state engaging within a trans-substantive
justification with respect to any former nationalistic anachronism such
as the white Australia policy.

In this way, human reason is emboldened to pursue its noble purpose of
serving mankind, giving expression to our deepest common aspirations and
extending, rather than manipulating or confining, public debate. Thus,
genuine adherence to religion – far from narrowing our minds – widens
the horizon of human understanding. It protects civil society from the
excesses of the unbridled ego which tend to absolutize the finite and
eclipse the infinite; (a dig at Richard Dawkins perhaps?) it ensures
that freedom is exercised hand in hand with truth, and it adorns culture
with insights concerning all that is true, good and beautiful.

It was a remarkable performance -- to explain the deepest notions of
Christian theology to a potentially hostile audience and leave without a
murmur of criticism. It seems clear that the Pope is seeking outcomes
from this dialogue with Muslim leaders -- more respect for Christianity,
more religious tolerance, more common action against secularism, more
common action in support of human dignity. How long it will take for the
message to sink in is a different matter. [Vatican Speech 2009.5.9,
Copyright 2009 - Libreria Editrice Vaticana, added emphasis from Michael
Cook 14 May 2009, MercatorNet.com]

Similarly the use of the Hebrew genealogy [Matthew 1:17; Luke 3:23-38]
is an attributed hypostatic metashematizo [2 Corinthians 11:14-15] to
define the character of the consecrated elements to the host [John
6:46-59] and compass or organic influence (ie. Zeitgeist) of the Godhead
as Elohiym, is derived from the biblical text of [1 Corinthians
12:20-26] which, in referring to the human body infers the genitalia by
the phrase:

"our unpresentable-ASCHEMON parts have greater modesty-EUSCHEMOSUNE"

Words with similar definitions obtained from the Perseus Digital
Library, Tufts University are:

Latin 1: conformatio 2: defingo 3: Megara (great houses such as Corinth;
respected Greek city-state) 4: conformo 5: figuratio
Greek 1: schêmatismos 2: schêmatopoieô 3: aposchêmatizô 4: morphôma 5:
metaschêmatizô

With respects to the former schismatic presumptions as the geo-centric
Pythagorean and Julian perspective of the cosmology which had pervaded
since Greek astronomer and geographer Ptolemy (120 CE), I recently asked
Australians how they thought Captain James Cook mapped the east coast of
the continent and whether he made use of any recent technological
innovations, or as dependency upon a geo-centric and otherwise central
point of inexactitude in deference to the Dutch and their Intellectual
Property.

It was James Cook who had ambition not only to go farther than any man
had been before: (ie. The Dolphin voyage of 1766 CE was compromised by
the ship's nails being exchanged for sexual favors amongst the
Polynesian Islanders), but as far as it was possible for a man to
go--seized possession of Terra Australis on 20 April 1770 CE. A little
known aspect of Cook's voyage was his use of the first really accurate
chronometer that could be transported by sea. As a result of this
innovation he was able to accurately record longitude as well as
latitude. Latitude could be determined accurately using a sextant, but
accurate longitude had to wait for John Harrison to invent the
chronometer as the innovation that allowed Cook to depict Australia
cartographically and without reference to other maps.

Wasn't the planet Venus also used as the principle mode in determining
longitude? Observations made by appointment of the Royal Society at King
George's Island in the South Sea by Mr Charles Green, formerly assistant
at the Royal Observatory at Greenwich, and Lieutenant James Cook of His
Majesty's ship the Endeavour are recorded in the 1771 CE Philosophical
Transactions of the Royal Society, Vol. 61, p 41.

I simply make the observation that the planetary deities within the
Torah are also concerned with a computational and semiotic statement
about the cosmology having a pious and genealogical relationship with
the Hebrews, between the seven-day cycle and the Equinox cycles as
providing a relationship ('sanctification') and relativity to the
infinite as eternity. This worldview is also able to accommodate the
recent suggested finding of a 35,000 year old anthropological image of
the planet Venus located in German caves.

The other point I make in relation to this is the requirement for a
geo-centric paradigm of mind and governance, is that the planetary
metaschema known from Pythagoras (580-500 BCE) to Ptolemy (120 CE) to
1582 CE Gregorian calendar reforms was the 28 year x 365.25 cycle
computation made by the former Julian calendar. My view of the cosmology
given by NASA's Reference Publication on Fifty Year Canon of Solar
Eclipses: 1986 to 2035 by Fred Espenak, is that the Australian
geocentric--and I use this with great latitude within the field of: 4
degrees and inexactitude of longitude: 12 degrees--as proximity of solar
eclipses go, might equally be said to qualify for the purpose of
determination of a central orientation for its geo-centric technological
based paradigm of mind and governance.

Solar Eclipse [Julian 2452612.814] @ Latitude: 39 28.2S, Longitude: 59
33.6E on 4 December 2002 + 28 years,
Solar Eclipse [Julian 2462830.786] @ Latitude: 43 36.9S, Longitude: 71
18.5E on 25 November 2030

- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

Rod

2009-05-17 21:23:55 UTC

And you got the syntax wrong AGAIN as well ! I'll correct it for you
ONE LAST TIME, Dolf !

function Dolf() {

Post by dolf
var arrayMETA_NONTEMPORAL (100) {
[ 72: {} ],
[ 148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {}],
[ 205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:]
[ 267: {}],
[ 305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {} ]
[ 501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531: ]
[ 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {} ]

}

Please stop spamming Dolf...

dolf

2009-05-18 00:50:57 UTC

Rod <***@yahoo.com> engages in irrational defacement as
psych-sexual defaecation!

We can think of the mechanistic and deterministic sinful nature against
the autonomic process of right to life in which human beings routinely
engage, as functionally equivalent to the lint filter within a clothes
dryer. And to illustrate this by drawing your attention to the
remarkable attributed correspondence which these have to the character
of the Gospel narratives, I have recently added the meta descriptors for
those Categories of Understanding which don't have a deterministic
temporal connection:

var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531:
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}

There is then an ability for us to look at each of the dialectic
containers or daemon in which this notional manifest of 'sin' occurs by
using the vCube.html document with the ?telos:422 and ?zen:7,nous:65
search options.

Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are (only)
one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present His laws
through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but (rather) a
mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number of them. As
such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that His choice of
the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just one of an
infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have opted for. For,
not only are the laws of nature one of His "inventions", but the very
fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process, function, components,
properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that wasn’t at all mandatory!
[(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da at Tevunot -- The Knowing
Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]

- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

And you got the syntax wrong AGAIN as well ! I'll correct it for you
ONE LAST TIME, Dolf !
function Dolf() {

Post by dolf
var arrayMETA_NONTEMPORAL (100) {
[ 72: {} ],
[ 148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {}],
[ 205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {},
258:] [ 267: {}],
[ 305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {} ]
[ 501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531: ]
[ 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {} ]

}
Please stop spamming Dolf...

dolf

2009-05-17 21:10:10 UTC

"Looks like you have been overruled, faggot." [Rod
<***@yahoo.com>]

Did someone say SIN?

I have recently added the meta descriptors for the categories of
understanding which don't have a temporal connection--I think of this as
the mechanistic and deterministic sin equivalent of the lint filter
within a clothes dryer.

var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531:
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}

I am able to look at the dialectic container or daemon in which these
occur by using the ?telos:num option

- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?telos:422

#148 / #72
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:8,nous:41

#184
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:8,nous:40

#196 (#70, #30, #40, #50, #6 Our secret sin)
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:1,nous:16

#100, #6, #90 to be astir, to move; to awake (from sleep or from death),
to rise from the dead; to arouse oneself; to hasten on.

#422 #10, #300, #2, #70, #30 n. The People Returns / #530 - #30, #80,
#10, #4, #6, #400 n. Torches
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:7,nous:65

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:16 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Excuse me?

dolf

2009-05-17 21:30:49 UTC

Is it sin to go to a German Bakery and walk past the Sydney Synagogue
and say to the hired security guard working on the Sabbath day as you
walk past:

"I will never enter into there?"

#1, #6, #30, #400: Wrongness; folly; godlessness
#2, #40, #90, #6, #200, #2, #6, #1: To enter into the siege, to become
invested or blockaded
#40, #7, #200, #100: A sprinkler or basin (for sacrificial use); a wine bowl

Nous: #75
Time: 03:40 hrs
Date: 2009.05.16
Torah: #70 #200 #10 %81 = #37
Dao: Destructiveness of Envy/ Harmed Through Greed
Tetra: #72 - Hardness
I-Ching: H52 - Inaction

Latin: Dexter {Revealing God} Alt: Yeyayel {Three-fold Power of God} {
1. HELPS REDISCOVER HIDDEN TREASURES
2. NIGHT-TIME VISIONS
3. DIFFICULT SOLUTIONS
4. Tepiseuth
}
Josiah {The Lord burns; the fire of the Lord}

- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:1,nous:75

- dolf

Post by dolf
"Looks like you have been overruled, faggot." [Rod
Did someone say SIN?
I have recently added the meta descriptors for the categories of
understanding which don't have a temporal connection--I think of this as
the mechanistic and deterministic sin equivalent of the lint filter
within a clothes dryer.
var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}
I am able to look at the dialectic container or daemon in which these
occur by using the ?telos:num option
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?telos:422
#148 / #72
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:8,nous:41
#184
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:8,nous:40
#196 (#70, #30, #40, #50, #6 Our secret sin)
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:1,nous:16
#100, #6, #90 to be astir, to move; to awake (from sleep or from death),
to rise from the dead; to arouse oneself; to hasten on.
#422 #10, #300, #2, #70, #30 n. The People Returns / #530 - #30, #80,
#10, #4, #6, #400 n. Torches
- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:7,nous:65

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:16 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Excuse me?

No.
Who is the liar here, Randy Young?
You are.
Deu 23:17 There shall be no prostitute of the daughters of Israel,
neither shall there be a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a harlot, or the wages of
a dog, into the house of Jehovah thy God for any vow: for even both
these are an abomination unto Jehovah thy God.
Deu 23:17 No daughter of Israel is to let herself be used as a loose
woman for a strange god, and no son of Israel is to give himself to a man.
Deu 23:18 Do not take into the house of the Lord your God, as an
offering for an oath, the price of a loose woman or the money given to
one used for sex purposes in the worship of the gods: for these two
things are disgusting to the Lord your God.
Deu 23:17 "None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult
prostitute, and none of the sons of Israel shall be a cult prostitute.
Deu 23:18 You shall not bring the fee of a prostitute or the wages of
a dog into the house of the LORD your God in payment for any vow, for
both of these are an abomination to the LORD your God.
Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a
sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a
dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both
these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Deu 23:17 There shalbe no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a
Sodomite of the sonnes of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a
dogge into the house of the Lord thy God for any vow: for euen both
these are abomination vnto the Lord thy God.
Looks like you have been overruled, faggot.

The Church couches by such proposition, a continuing reliance upon
symbolic theology and philosophy of religion derived from Pythagorean
onomantick hymeneal (HETEROS: MARRIAGE) mysticism as a regime of Roman
Imperial religious/political governance. Which as blasphemy, is a
dynamic contention of opposites expressed between the Roman Imperial
religious/political hymeneal conception of the hyponomos (under law;
subject to law), as its natural and common law association to the
chronological hyponomic character of the hypostatis (eg: 12 x 6J = 72J +
3(3²+1)/2 = 457 BCE + 70 weeks = 33 CE as hypothetical) and the
personality of Jesus (YHVS) Christ--refusing to acknowledge the First
Cause as a Personality.
"In any society there exists a somewhat mysterious consensus, which
changes over the decades, and for which it is not pretentious to use the
German loan-word Zeitgeist {ie. the animating or defining spirit or mood
of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of
the time}." As the experience of a dominant cultural climate that
defines, particularly in Hegelian thinking, an era in the dialectical
progression of a people or the world at large. Hegel's (1770-1831) main
contribution to the formulation of the concept of Volksgeist ('Spirit of
the Nation') is the attribution of a historical character to the
concept. Examples of similar foundational concepts within the Australian
Absolute Astronomy.com]
But does Richard Dawkins pretentions upon the German word 'geist' as
spooks, extend to poltergeist projections as well?
I don't get the impression that Dawkins directly rejects the general
concept of 'faith,' but, more importantly, discusses the differences
between scientific/rational thinking (which is dynamic and allows for
revision with the progression of time bringing us closer to the truth)
and the unhealthy, destructive and irrational religious thinking (which
is static, governed by interpretation of the bible, and contains
predetermined truths). Dawkins use of the theory of evolution in that
discussion was not to address the general issue of 'faith', but to
demonstrate the progressive nature in the scientific method. [Science
Blog entry: 2006.11.11 Misunderstanding Dawkins]
Next he'll be claiming that this static within interstitial space {ie.
has a Casimir effect described by quantum field theory} as the product
of mysterious psychokinetic phenomena to unconscious projections due to
psychic conflict, thereby constitutes speech--An electric hair dryer is
such an invention.
Pope Benedict XVI responding to such a disturbing notion at his
University of Jordan address on 9 May 2009 during his détente with the
Muslim world, said that faith and reason support each other. Religion
purifies reason of the temptation to presumption: "And as believers in
the one God we know that human reason is itself God’s gift and that it
soars to its highest plane when suffused with the light of God’s truth.
In fact, when human reason humbly allows itself to be purified by faith,
it is far from weakened; rather, it is strengthened to resist
presumption (was he thinking of Christopher Hitchens?) and to reach
beyond its own limitations."
Nevertheless, Dawkins on page 301 in his book 'The God Delusion'
published in 2006, draws upon this analogy as the progression of ideas,
in relating it to female suffrage. Which he observes, is now universal
in the world's democracies and is conceptually different from what the
common law state did. But this reform, as he suggests is in fact
astonishingly recent. Here are some dates at which women were granted
1893 - New Zealand
1902 - Australia
1906 - Finland
1913 - Norway
1920 - United States
1928 - Britain
1945 - France
1946 - Belgium
1971 - Switzerland
2006 - Kuwait
This spread of dates through the twentieth century, Dawkins considers is
a gauge of the shifting Zeitgeist rather than evidence of the modern
regulatory and administrative state engaging within a trans-substantive
justification with respect to any former nationalistic anachronism such
as the white Australia policy.
In this way, human reason is emboldened to pursue its noble purpose of
serving mankind, giving expression to our deepest common aspirations and
extending, rather than manipulating or confining, public debate. Thus,
genuine adherence to religion – far from narrowing our minds – widens
the horizon of human understanding. It protects civil society from the
excesses of the unbridled ego which tend to absolutize the finite and
eclipse the infinite; (a dig at Richard Dawkins perhaps?) it ensures
that freedom is exercised hand in hand with truth, and it adorns culture
with insights concerning all that is true, good and beautiful.
It was a remarkable performance -- to explain the deepest notions of
Christian theology to a potentially hostile audience and leave without a
murmur of criticism. It seems clear that the Pope is seeking outcomes
from this dialogue with Muslim leaders -- more respect for Christianity,
more religious tolerance, more common action against secularism, more
common action in support of human dignity. How long it will take for the
message to sink in is a different matter. [Vatican Speech 2009.5.9,
Copyright 2009 - Libreria Editrice Vaticana, added emphasis from Michael
Cook 14 May 2009, MercatorNet.com]
Similarly the use of the Hebrew genealogy [Matthew 1:17; Luke 3:23-38]
is an attributed hypostatic metashematizo [2 Corinthians 11:14-15] to
define the character of the consecrated elements to the host [John
6:46-59] and compass or organic influence (ie. Zeitgeist) of the Godhead
as Elohiym, is derived from the biblical text of [1 Corinthians
12:20-26] which, in referring to the human body infers the genitalia by
"our unpresentable-ASCHEMON parts have greater modesty-EUSCHEMOSUNE"
Words with similar definitions obtained from the Perseus Digital
Latin 1: conformatio 2: defingo 3: Megara (great houses such as Corinth;
respected Greek city-state) 4: conformo 5: figuratio
metaschêmatizô
With respects to the former schismatic presumptions as the geo-centric
Pythagorean and Julian perspective of the cosmology which had pervaded
since Greek astronomer and geographer Ptolemy (120 CE), I recently asked
Australians how they thought Captain James Cook mapped the east coast of
the continent and whether he made use of any recent technological
innovations, or as dependency upon a geo-centric and otherwise central
point of inexactitude in deference to the Dutch and their Intellectual
Property.
It was James Cook who had ambition not only to go farther than any man
had been before: (ie. The Dolphin voyage of 1766 CE was compromised by
the ship's nails being exchanged for sexual favors amongst the
Polynesian Islanders), but as far as it was possible for a man to
go--seized possession of Terra Australis on 20 April 1770 CE. A little
known aspect of Cook's voyage was his use of the first really accurate
chronometer that could be transported by sea. As a result of this
innovation he was able to accurately record longitude as well as
latitude. Latitude could be determined accurately using a sextant, but
accurate longitude had to wait for John Harrison to invent the
chronometer as the innovation that allowed Cook to depict Australia
cartographically and without reference to other maps.
Wasn't the planet Venus also used as the principle mode in determining
longitude? Observations made by appointment of the Royal Society at King
George's Island in the South Sea by Mr Charles Green, formerly assistant
at the Royal Observatory at Greenwich, and Lieutenant James Cook of His
Majesty's ship the Endeavour are recorded in the 1771 CE Philosophical
Transactions of the Royal Society, Vol. 61, p 41.
I simply make the observation that the planetary deities within the
Torah are also concerned with a computational and semiotic statement
about the cosmology having a pious and genealogical relationship with
the Hebrews, between the seven-day cycle and the Equinox cycles as
providing a relationship ('sanctification') and relativity to the
infinite as eternity. This worldview is also able to accommodate the
recent suggested finding of a 35,000 year old anthropological image of
the planet Venus located in German caves.
The other point I make in relation to this is the requirement for a
geo-centric paradigm of mind and governance, is that the planetary
metaschema known from Pythagoras (580-500 BCE) to Ptolemy (120 CE) to
1582 CE Gregorian calendar reforms was the 28 year x 365.25 cycle
computation made by the former Julian calendar. My view of the cosmology
given by NASA's Reference Publication on Fifty Year Canon of Solar
Eclipses: 1986 to 2035 by Fred Espenak, is that the Australian
geocentric--and I use this with great latitude within the field of: 4
degrees and inexactitude of longitude: 12 degrees--as proximity of solar
eclipses go, might equally be said to qualify for the purpose of
determination of a central orientation for its geo-centric technological
based paradigm of mind and governance.
33.6E on 4 December 2002 + 28 years,
18.5E on 25 November 2030
- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

dolf

2009-05-17 22:33:31 UTC

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:16 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Excuse me?

No.
Who is the liar here, Randy Young?
You are.
Deu 23:17 There shall be no prostitute of the daughters of Israel,
neither shall there be a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a harlot, or the wages of
a dog, into the house of Jehovah thy God for any vow: for even both
these are an abomination unto Jehovah thy God.
Deu 23:17 No daughter of Israel is to let herself be used as a loose
woman for a strange god, and no son of Israel is to give himself to a man.
Deu 23:18 Do not take into the house of the Lord your God, as an
offering for an oath, the price of a loose woman or the money given to
one used for sex purposes in the worship of the gods: for these two
things are disgusting to the Lord your God.
Deu 23:17 "None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult
prostitute, and none of the sons of Israel shall be a cult prostitute.
Deu 23:18 You shall not bring the fee of a prostitute or the wages of
a dog into the house of the LORD your God in payment for any vow, for
both of these are an abomination to the LORD your God.
Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a
sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a
dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both
these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Deu 23:17 There shalbe no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a
Sodomite of the sonnes of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a
dogge into the house of the Lord thy God for any vow: for euen both
these are abomination vnto the Lord thy God.
Looks like you have been overruled, faggot.

The Church couches by such proposition, a continuing reliance upon
symbolic theology and philosophy of religion derived from Pythagorean
onomantick hymeneal (HETEROS: MARRIAGE) mysticism as a regime of Roman
Imperial religious/political governance. Which as blasphemy, is a
dynamic contention of opposites expressed between the Roman Imperial
religious/political hymeneal conception of the hyponomos (under law;
subject to law), as its natural and common law association to the
chronological hyponomic character of the hypostatis (eg: 12 x 6J = 72J +
3(3²+1)/2 = 457 BCE + 70 weeks = 33 CE as hypothetical) and the
personality of Jesus (YHVS) Christ--refusing to acknowledge the First
Cause as a Personality.
"In any society there exists a somewhat mysterious consensus, which
changes over the decades, and for which it is not pretentious to use the
German loan-word Zeitgeist {ie. the animating or defining spirit or mood
of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of
the time}." As the experience of a dominant cultural climate that
defines, particularly in Hegelian thinking, an era in the dialectical
progression of a people or the world at large. Hegel's (1770-1831) main
contribution to the formulation of the concept of Volksgeist ('Spirit of
the Nation') is the attribution of a historical character to the
concept. Examples of similar foundational concepts within the Australian
Absolute Astronomy.com]
But does Richard Dawkins pretentions upon the German word 'geist' as
spooks, extend to poltergeist projections as well?
I don't get the impression that Dawkins directly rejects the general
concept of 'faith,' but, more importantly, discusses the differences
between scientific/rational thinking (which is dynamic and allows for
revision with the progression of time bringing us closer to the truth)
and the unhealthy, destructive and irrational religious thinking (which
is static, governed by interpretation of the bible, and contains
predetermined truths). Dawkins use of the theory of evolution in that
discussion was not to address the general issue of 'faith', but to
demonstrate the progressive nature in the scientific method. [Science
Blog entry: 2006.11.11 Misunderstanding Dawkins]
Next he'll be claiming that this static within interstitial space {ie.
has a Casimir effect described by quantum field theory} as the product
of mysterious psychokinetic phenomena to unconscious projections due to
psychic conflict, thereby constitutes speech--An electric hair dryer is
such an invention.
Pope Benedict XVI responding to such a disturbing notion at his
University of Jordan address on 9 May 2009 during his détente with the
Muslim world, said that faith and reason support each other. Religion
purifies reason of the temptation to presumption: "And as believers in
the one God we know that human reason is itself God’s gift and that it
soars to its highest plane when suffused with the light of God’s truth.
In fact, when human reason humbly allows itself to be purified by faith,
it is far from weakened; rather, it is strengthened to resist
presumption (was he thinking of Christopher Hitchens?) and to reach
beyond its own limitations."
Nevertheless, Dawkins on page 301 in his book 'The God Delusion'
published in 2006, draws upon this analogy as the progression of ideas,
in relating it to female suffrage. Which he observes, is now universal
in the world's democracies and is conceptually different from what the
common law state did. But this reform, as he suggests is in fact
astonishingly recent. Here are some dates at which women were granted
1893 - New Zealand
1902 - Australia
1906 - Finland
1913 - Norway
1920 - United States
1928 - Britain
1945 - France
1946 - Belgium
1971 - Switzerland
2006 - Kuwait
This spread of dates through the twentieth century, Dawkins considers is
a gauge of the shifting Zeitgeist rather than evidence of the modern
regulatory and administrative state engaging within a trans-substantive
justification with respect to any former nationalistic anachronism such
as the white Australia policy.
In this way, human reason is emboldened to pursue its noble purpose of
serving mankind, giving expression to our deepest common aspirations and
extending, rather than manipulating or confining, public debate. Thus,
genuine adherence to religion – far from narrowing our minds – widens
the horizon of human understanding. It protects civil society from the
excesses of the unbridled ego which tend to absolutize the finite and
eclipse the infinite; (a dig at Richard Dawkins perhaps?) it ensures
that freedom is exercised hand in hand with truth, and it adorns culture
with insights concerning all that is true, good and beautiful.
It was a remarkable performance -- to explain the deepest notions of
Christian theology to a potentially hostile audience and leave without a
murmur of criticism. It seems clear that the Pope is seeking outcomes
from this dialogue with Muslim leaders -- more respect for Christianity,
more religious tolerance, more common action against secularism, more
common action in support of human dignity. How long it will take for the
message to sink in is a different matter. [Vatican Speech 2009.5.9,
Copyright 2009 - Libreria Editrice Vaticana, added emphasis from Michael
Cook 14 May 2009, MercatorNet.com]
Similarly the use of the Hebrew genealogy [Matthew 1:17; Luke 3:23-38]
is an attributed hypostatic metashematizo [2 Corinthians 11:14-15] to
define the character of the consecrated elements to the host [John
6:46-59] and compass or organic influence (ie. Zeitgeist) of the Godhead
as Elohiym, is derived from the biblical text of [1 Corinthians
12:20-26] which, in referring to the human body infers the genitalia by
"our unpresentable-ASCHEMON parts have greater modesty-EUSCHEMOSUNE"
Words with similar definitions obtained from the Perseus Digital
Latin 1: conformatio 2: defingo 3: Megara (great houses such as Corinth;
respected Greek city-state) 4: conformo 5: figuratio
metaschêmatizô
With respects to the former schismatic presumptions as the geo-centric
Pythagorean and Julian perspective of the cosmology which had pervaded
since Greek astronomer and geographer Ptolemy (120 CE), I recently asked
Australians how they thought Captain James Cook mapped the east coast of
the continent and whether he made use of any recent technological
innovations, or as dependency upon a geo-centric and otherwise central
point of inexactitude in deference to the Dutch and their Intellectual
Property.
It was James Cook who had ambition not only to go farther than any man
had been before: (ie. The Dolphin voyage of 1766 CE was compromised by
the ship's nails being exchanged for sexual favors amongst the
Polynesian Islanders), but as far as it was possible for a man to
go--seized possession of Terra Australis on 20 April 1770 CE. A little
known aspect of Cook's voyage was his use of the first really accurate
chronometer that could be transported by sea. As a result of this
innovation he was able to accurately record longitude as well as
latitude. Latitude could be determined accurately using a sextant, but
accurate longitude had to wait for John Harrison to invent the
chronometer as the innovation that allowed Cook to depict Australia
cartographically and without reference to other maps.
Wasn't the planet Venus also used as the principle mode in determining
longitude? Observations made by appointment of the Royal Society at King
George's Island in the South Sea by Mr Charles Green, formerly assistant
at the Royal Observatory at Greenwich, and Lieutenant James Cook of His
Majesty's ship the Endeavour are recorded in the 1771 CE Philosophical
Transactions of the Royal Society, Vol. 61, p 41.
I simply make the observation that the planetary deities within the
Torah are also concerned with a computational and semiotic statement
about the cosmology having a pious and genealogical relationship with
the Hebrews, between the seven-day cycle and the Equinox cycles as
providing a relationship ('sanctification') and relativity to the
infinite as eternity. This worldview is also able to accommodate the
recent suggested finding of a 35,000 year old anthropological image of
the planet Venus located in German caves.
The other point I make in relation to this is the requirement for a
geo-centric paradigm of mind and governance, is that the planetary
metaschema known from Pythagoras (580-500 BCE) to Ptolemy (120 CE) to
1582 CE Gregorian calendar reforms was the 28 year x 365.25 cycle
computation made by the former Julian calendar. My view of the cosmology
given by NASA's Reference Publication on Fifty Year Canon of Solar
Eclipses: 1986 to 2035 by Fred Espenak, is that the Australian
geocentric--and I use this with great latitude within the field of: 4
degrees and inexactitude of longitude: 12 degrees--as proximity of solar
eclipses go, might equally be said to qualify for the purpose of
determination of a central orientation for its geo-centric technological
based paradigm of mind and governance.
33.6E on 4 December 2002 + 28 years,
18.5E on 25 November 2030
- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

dolf

2009-05-18 00:36:07 UTC

A missing Irish man has more autonomic rights to personality and
existence within Australia!

Is it sin to go to a German Bakery and walk past the Sydney Synagogue
and say to the hired security guard working on the Sabbath day as you
walk past:

"I will never enter into there?"

#1, #6, #30, #400: Wrongness; folly; godlessness
#2, #40, #90, #6, #200, #2, #6, #1: To enter into the siege, to become
invested or blockaded
#40, #7, #200, #100: A sprinkler or basin (for sacrificial use); a wine bowl

Nous: #75
Time: 03:40 hrs
Date: 2009.05.16
Torah: #70 #200 #10 %81 = #37
Dao: Destructiveness of Envy/ Harmed Through Greed
Tetra: #72 - Hardness
I-Ching: H52 - Inaction

Latin: Dexter {Revealing God} Alt: Yeyayel {Three-fold Power of God} {
1. HELPS REDISCOVER HIDDEN TREASURES
2. NIGHT-TIME VISIONS
3. DIFFICULT SOLUTIONS
4. Tepiseuth
}
Josiah {The Lord burns; the fire of the Lord}

- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:1,nous:75

We can think of the mechanistic and deterministic sinful nature against
the autonomic process of right to life in which human beings routinely
engage, as functionally equivalent of the lint filter within a clothes
dryer. And to illustrate this by correspondence to the character of the
Gospel narratives, I have recently added the meta descriptors for those
Categories of Understanding which don't have a temporal connection:

var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531:
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}

There is then an ability for us to look at each of the dialectic
containers or daemon in which this notional manifest of 'sin' occurs by
using the vCube.html document with the ?telos:422 and ?zen:7,nous:65
search options.

Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are (only)
one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present His laws
through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but (rather) a
mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number of them. As
such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that His choice of
the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just one of an
infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have opted for. For,
not only are the laws of nature one of His "inventions", but the very
fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process, function, components,
properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that wasn’t at all mandatory!
[(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da at Tevunot -- The Knowing
Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]

The GRAPPLE paradigm as a Balanced Ternary Distributed System, maps to
the Chinese DAOist (#81 element, ternary number theory) and I-Ching (H64
elements as binary apparatus) to produce by extrusion, Hebrew and other
language based categories of understanding by deploying this in
conjunction with a chronological syllogism, or logical appeal: [Greek:
syllismos meaning conclusion, inference], where usually the categorical
syllogism—such as: "No servant can serve two masters: for either he will
hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and
despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and
they derided him."

The pretension-MALAKOS as onomantick basis to Pythagorean and Egyptian
marriage mysticism as BINARY apparatus and Christian identity as
ARSENOKOITE is set in contrast to the TERNARY nature of the CHINESE
perspective of this same cosmology. There is a logical mantric and manic
contention between Pythagoras' BINARY apparatus of number as
HETEROS-MARRIAGE mysticism and the Chinese use of the 64 equilibrium
elements of the Changes as functionally an equivalent BINARY apparatus.
As to God's syllogistic definition of piety-monogenes derived from
marriage-monogamous gamogenesis, not ours:

Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
[Genesis 2:24]

Abomination before God: "If a man lie down with men as he lieth with
women" [Leviticus 18:22], "and women with women as with men." [Romans 2:26]

Involving a kind of logical argument in which one proposition as the
conclusion or Telos [#2187 = 3^7 or 'oth cycle: #2184 / #6000 =
122J3W1D] is inferred from two others [the major premise: which contains
the law of that will as 7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle] and
[the minor premise: which contains the command to behave in accordance
with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the law: x 49
= 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March] of a certain form.

"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men;
but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men
is abomination in the sight of God.

The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man
presseth into it."

THE BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY (AS 10 COMMANDMENTS) IS ASSOCIATED TO A BALANCED
TERNARY DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM
#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
Universal Law}, which contains the law of that will:

7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +

#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the
law:

x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +

#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth
as 122J3W1D) = Arch (re'shiyth as 3W1D) + c² [9(9²+1)/2]:

has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie.
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the [21st
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month."
[4Q321]] +

#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1}
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}

vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}

ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto 25
March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.

- dolf

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:16 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Excuse me?

No.
Who is the liar here, Randy Young?
You are.
Deu 23:17 There shall be no prostitute of the daughters of Israel,
neither shall there be a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a harlot, or the wages of
a dog, into the house of Jehovah thy God for any vow: for even both
these are an abomination unto Jehovah thy God.
Deu 23:17 No daughter of Israel is to let herself be used as a loose
woman for a strange god, and no son of Israel is to give himself to a man.
Deu 23:18 Do not take into the house of the Lord your God, as an
offering for an oath, the price of a loose woman or the money given to
one used for sex purposes in the worship of the gods: for these two
things are disgusting to the Lord your God.
Deu 23:17 "None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult
prostitute, and none of the sons of Israel shall be a cult prostitute.
Deu 23:18 You shall not bring the fee of a prostitute or the wages of
a dog into the house of the LORD your God in payment for any vow, for
both of these are an abomination to the LORD your God.
Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a
sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a
dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both
these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Deu 23:17 There shalbe no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a
Sodomite of the sonnes of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a
dogge into the house of the Lord thy God for any vow: for euen both
these are abomination vnto the Lord thy God.
Looks like you have been overruled, faggot.

The Church couches by such proposition, a continuing reliance upon
symbolic theology and philosophy of religion derived from Pythagorean
onomantick hymeneal (HETEROS: MARRIAGE) mysticism as a regime of Roman
Imperial religious/political governance. Which as blasphemy, is a
dynamic contention of opposites expressed between the Roman Imperial
religious/political hymeneal conception of the hyponomos (under law;
subject to law), as its natural and common law association to the
chronological hyponomic character of the hypostatis (eg: 12 x 6J = 72J +
3(3²+1)/2 = 457 BCE + 70 weeks = 33 CE as hypothetical) and the
personality of Jesus (YHVS) Christ--refusing to acknowledge the First
Cause as a Personality.
"In any society there exists a somewhat mysterious consensus, which
changes over the decades, and for which it is not pretentious to use the
German loan-word Zeitgeist {ie. the animating or defining spirit or mood
of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of
the time}." As the experience of a dominant cultural climate that
defines, particularly in Hegelian thinking, an era in the dialectical
progression of a people or the world at large. Hegel's (1770-1831) main
contribution to the formulation of the concept of Volksgeist ('Spirit of
the Nation') is the attribution of a historical character to the
concept. Examples of similar foundational concepts within the Australian
Absolute Astronomy.com]
But does Richard Dawkins pretentions upon the German word 'geist' as
spooks, extend to poltergeist projections as well?
I don't get the impression that Dawkins directly rejects the general
concept of 'faith,' but, more importantly, discusses the differences
between scientific/rational thinking (which is dynamic and allows for
revision with the progression of time bringing us closer to the truth)
and the unhealthy, destructive and irrational religious thinking (which
is static, governed by interpretation of the bible, and contains
predetermined truths). Dawkins use of the theory of evolution in that
discussion was not to address the general issue of 'faith', but to
demonstrate the progressive nature in the scientific method. [Science
Blog entry: 2006.11.11 Misunderstanding Dawkins]
Next he'll be claiming that this static within interstitial space {ie.
has a Casimir effect described by quantum field theory} as the product
of mysterious psychokinetic phenomena to unconscious projections due to
psychic conflict, thereby constitutes speech--An electric hair dryer is
such an invention.
Pope Benedict XVI responding to such a disturbing notion at his
University of Jordan address on 9 May 2009 during his détente with the
Muslim world, said that faith and reason support each other. Religion
purifies reason of the temptation to presumption: "And as believers in
the one God we know that human reason is itself God’s gift and that it
soars to its highest plane when suffused with the light of God’s truth.
In fact, when human reason humbly allows itself to be purified by faith,
it is far from weakened; rather, it is strengthened to resist
presumption (was he thinking of Christopher Hitchens?) and to reach
beyond its own limitations."
Nevertheless, Dawkins on page 301 in his book 'The God Delusion'
published in 2006, draws upon this analogy as the progression of ideas,
in relating it to female suffrage. Which he observes, is now universal
in the world's democracies and is conceptually different from what the
common law state did. But this reform, as he suggests is in fact
astonishingly recent. Here are some dates at which women were granted
1893 - New Zealand
1902 - Australia
1906 - Finland
1913 - Norway
1920 - United States
1928 - Britain
1945 - France
1946 - Belgium
1971 - Switzerland
2006 - Kuwait
This spread of dates through the twentieth century, Dawkins considers is
a gauge of the shifting Zeitgeist rather than evidence of the modern
regulatory and administrative state engaging within a trans-substantive
justification with respect to any former nationalistic anachronism such
as the white Australia policy.
In this way, human reason is emboldened to pursue its noble purpose of
serving mankind, giving expression to our deepest common aspirations and
extending, rather than manipulating or confining, public debate. Thus,
genuine adherence to religion – far from narrowing our minds – widens
the horizon of human understanding. It protects civil society from the
excesses of the unbridled ego which tend to absolutize the finite and
eclipse the infinite; (a dig at Richard Dawkins perhaps?) it ensures
that freedom is exercised hand in hand with truth, and it adorns culture
with insights concerning all that is true, good and beautiful.
It was a remarkable performance -- to explain the deepest notions of
Christian theology to a potentially hostile audience and leave without a
murmur of criticism. It seems clear that the Pope is seeking outcomes
from this dialogue with Muslim leaders -- more respect for Christianity,
more religious tolerance, more common action against secularism, more
common action in support of human dignity. How long it will take for the
message to sink in is a different matter. [Vatican Speech 2009.5.9,
Copyright 2009 - Libreria Editrice Vaticana, added emphasis from Michael
Cook 14 May 2009, MercatorNet.com]
Similarly the use of the Hebrew genealogy [Matthew 1:17; Luke 3:23-38]
is an attributed hypostatic metashematizo [2 Corinthians 11:14-15] to
define the character of the consecrated elements to the host [John
6:46-59] and compass or organic influence (ie. Zeitgeist) of the Godhead
as Elohiym, is derived from the biblical text of [1 Corinthians
12:20-26] which, in referring to the human body infers the genitalia by
"our unpresentable-ASCHEMON parts have greater modesty-EUSCHEMOSUNE"
Words with similar definitions obtained from the Perseus Digital
Latin 1: conformatio 2: defingo 3: Megara (great houses such as Corinth;
respected Greek city-state) 4: conformo 5: figuratio
metaschêmatizô
With respects to the former schismatic presumptions as the geo-centric
Pythagorean and Julian perspective of the cosmology which had pervaded
since Greek astronomer and geographer Ptolemy (120 CE), I recently asked
Australians how they thought Captain James Cook mapped the east coast of
the continent and whether he made use of any recent technological
innovations, or as dependency upon a geo-centric and otherwise central
point of inexactitude in deference to the Dutch and their Intellectual
Property.
It was James Cook who had ambition not only to go farther than any man
had been before: (ie. The Dolphin voyage of 1766 CE was compromised by
the ship's nails being exchanged for sexual favors amongst the
Polynesian Islanders), but as far as it was possible for a man to
go--seized possession of Terra Australis on 20 April 1770 CE. A little
known aspect of Cook's voyage was his use of the first really accurate
chronometer that could be transported by sea. As a result of this
innovation he was able to accurately record longitude as well as
latitude. Latitude could be determined accurately using a sextant, but
accurate longitude had to wait for John Harrison to invent the
chronometer as the innovation that allowed Cook to depict Australia
cartographically and without reference to other maps.
Wasn't the planet Venus also used as the principle mode in determining
longitude? Observations made by appointment of the Royal Society at King
George's Island in the South Sea by Mr Charles Green, formerly assistant
at the Royal Observatory at Greenwich, and Lieutenant James Cook of His
Majesty's ship the Endeavour are recorded in the 1771 CE Philosophical
Transactions of the Royal Society, Vol. 61, p 41.
I simply make the observation that the planetary deities within the
Torah are also concerned with a computational and semiotic statement
about the cosmology having a pious and genealogical relationship with
the Hebrews, between the seven-day cycle and the Equinox cycles as
providing a relationship ('sanctification') and relativity to the
infinite as eternity. This worldview is also able to accommodate the
recent suggested finding of a 35,000 year old anthropological image of
the planet Venus located in German caves.
The other point I make in relation to this is the requirement for a
geo-centric paradigm of mind and governance, is that the planetary
metaschema known from Pythagoras (580-500 BCE) to Ptolemy (120 CE) to
1582 CE Gregorian calendar reforms was the 28 year x 365.25 cycle
computation made by the former Julian calendar. My view of the cosmology
given by NASA's Reference Publication on Fifty Year Canon of Solar
Eclipses: 1986 to 2035 by Fred Espenak, is that the Australian
geocentric--and I use this with great latitude within the field of: 4
degrees and inexactitude of longitude: 12 degrees--as proximity of solar
eclipses go, might equally be said to qualify for the purpose of
determination of a central orientation for its geo-centric technological
based paradigm of mind and governance.
33.6E on 4 December 2002 + 28 years,
18.5E on 25 November 2030
- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

dolf

2009-05-18 02:11:15 UTC

If I might point out the Natural and Common Law precedent for regarding
these META_NONTEMPORAL {} non-temporal categories of understanding
operate as an economic function under the Sovereign State is an
equivalency to our earlier discussion of meta descriptor [#174 / #209 -
Good or #174 / #142 - Bad] inclination and moral dichotomy associated
with the allotment of Crown Land title--deeds [#209 - #8 #200 #1 = To
ease the bowels; excrements, dung] under the colonies as nomarchy in
1852 and the liabilities of Section 9 [#142 - #40, #6, #90, #1, #5 =
Out-goings, descents or lineages; privies or sewers] in the Letters
Patent of 1900 to the Australian Commonwealth of 1901, it may well be a
case of the Lieutenant Governor exercising the natural, regulative and
metempirical principles of good governance as ‘certain powers,
functions, and authorities’ declared to be vested within ‘the office of
Governor General and Commander in chief over Our said Commonwealth of
Australia’

As teleological circumscribing the Letters Patent associated to a
‘private’ status of a carriageway adjoining the North Melbourne exchange
the acrostic ethical overlay for the ‘OTH CYCLE, and of a 27 September
2001 [SUPER: #317 / #26 - Ambiguous Reversals/ Virtue of Gravity;
I-Ching: H3 - Initial Difficulties; Tetra: #3 - Mired / EGO: #232 / #63
- Origins in Reversal/ Consider Beginnings; I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap;
Tetra: #62 - Doubt] requirement for the attendance of the ambulance
service at St Andrews Street, North Melbourne—due to breaches of
building security and trans-substantive adverse reactions to Telstra’s
construction in August 1999.

The Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon, is after all, a transexperiental and
transpersonal object onto which time stamped phenomenon is referred, as
to the basis or cause of its sense content. And as a heuristic {ie. a
method of solving problems inand for one which no algorithm is
considered to exist and which therefore depends on inductive reasoning
from past experience of similar problems} attributed to a chronological
(24 hr day / topical year / Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c²
[9(9²+1)/2)]) hermeneutical overlay as behavioral 'a priori', it may be
considered in and of itself a jurisprudent determination as to the
integrity of statements and whether, as the measure of their categorical
nature, are compliant with the natural, regulative free-will and
metempirical principles of our legislation as jurisprudent framework and
accordingly our human, religious and Australian Constitutional rights.

Is it sin to go to a German Bakery and walk past the Sydney Synagogue
and say to the hired security guard working on the Sabbath day as you
walk past:

"I will never enter into there?"

#1, #6, #30, #400: Wrongness; folly; godlessness
#2, #40, #90, #6, #200, #2, #6, #1: To enter into the siege, to become
invested or blockaded
#40, #7, #200, #100: A sprinkler or basin (for sacrificial use); a wine bowl

Nous: #75
Time: 03:40 hrs
Date: 2009.05.16
Torah: #70 #200 #10 %81 = #37
Dao: Destructiveness of Envy/ Harmed Through Greed
Tetra: #72 - Hardness
I-Ching: H52 - Inaction

Latin: Dexter {Revealing God} Alt: Yeyayel {Three-fold Power of God} {
1. HELPS REDISCOVER HIDDEN TREASURES
2. NIGHT-TIME VISIONS
3. DIFFICULT SOLUTIONS
4. Tepiseuth
}
Josiah {The Lord burns; the fire of the Lord}

- http://www.grapple.id.au/vCube.html?zen:1,nous:75

We can think of the mechanistic and deterministic sinful nature against
the autonomic process of right to life in which human beings routinely
engage, as functionally equivalent of the lint filter within a clothes
dryer. And to illustrate this by correspondence to the character of the
Gospel narratives, I have recently added the meta descriptors for those
Categories of Understanding which don't have a temporal connection:

var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {}, 422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531:
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}

There is then an ability for us to look at each of the dialectic
containers or daemon in which this notional manifest of 'sin' occurs by
using the vCube.html document with the ?telos:422 and ?zen:7,nous:65
search options.

Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are (only)
one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present His laws
through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but (rather) a
mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number of them. As
such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that His choice of
the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just one of an
infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have opted for. For,
not only are the laws of nature one of His "inventions", but the very
fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process, function, components,
properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that wasn’t at all mandatory!
[(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da at Tevunot -- The Knowing
Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]

The GRAPPLE paradigm as a Balanced Ternary Distributed System, maps to
the Chinese DAOist (#81 element, ternary number theory) and I-Ching (H64
elements as binary apparatus) to produce by extrusion, Hebrew and other
language based categories of understanding by deploying this in
conjunction with a chronological syllogism, or logical appeal: [Greek:
syllismos meaning conclusion, inference], where usually the categorical
syllogism—such as: "No servant can serve two masters: for either he will
hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and
despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

And the Pharisees also, who were covetous, heard all these things: and
they derided him."

The pretension-MALAKOS as onomantick basis to Pythagorean and Egyptian
marriage mysticism as BINARY apparatus and Christian identity as
ARSENOKOITE is set in contrast to the TERNARY nature of the CHINESE
perspective of this same cosmology. There is a logical mantric and manic
contention between Pythagoras' BINARY apparatus of number as
HETEROS-MARRIAGE mysticism and the Chinese use of the 64 equilibrium
elements of the Changes as functionally an equivalent BINARY apparatus.
As to God's syllogistic definition of piety-monogenes derived from
marriage-monogamous gamogenesis, not ours:

Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
[Genesis 2:24]

Abomination before God: "If a man lie down with men as he lieth with
women" [Leviticus 18:22], "and women with women as with men." [Romans 2:26]

Involving a kind of logical argument in which one proposition as the
conclusion or Telos [#2187 = 3^7 or 'oth cycle: #2184 / #6000 =
122J3W1D] is inferred from two others [the major premise: which contains
the law of that will as 7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle] and
[the minor premise: which contains the command to behave in accordance
with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the law: x 49
= 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March] of a certain form.

"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men;
but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men
is abomination in the sight of God.

The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man
presseth into it."

THE BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY (AS 10 COMMANDMENTS) IS ASSOCIATED TO A BALANCED
TERNARY DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM
#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
Universal Law}, which contains the law of that will:

7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +

#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the
law:

x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +

#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth
as 122J3W1D) = Arch (re'shiyth as 3W1D) + c² [9(9²+1)/2]:

has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie.
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the [21st
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month."
[4Q321]] +

#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1}
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}

vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}

ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto 25
March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.

- dolf

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:16 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Excuse me?

No.
Who is the liar here, Randy Young?
You are.
Deu 23:17 There shall be no prostitute of the daughters of Israel,
neither shall there be a sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a harlot, or the wages of
a dog, into the house of Jehovah thy God for any vow: for even both
these are an abomination unto Jehovah thy God.
Deu 23:17 No daughter of Israel is to let herself be used as a loose
woman for a strange god, and no son of Israel is to give himself to a man.
Deu 23:18 Do not take into the house of the Lord your God, as an
offering for an oath, the price of a loose woman or the money given to
one used for sex purposes in the worship of the gods: for these two
things are disgusting to the Lord your God.
Deu 23:17 "None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult
prostitute, and none of the sons of Israel shall be a cult prostitute.
Deu 23:18 You shall not bring the fee of a prostitute or the wages of
a dog into the house of the LORD your God in payment for any vow, for
both of these are an abomination to the LORD your God.
Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a
sodomite of the sons of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a
dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both
these are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Deu 23:17 There shalbe no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a
Sodomite of the sonnes of Israel.
Deu 23:18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a
dogge into the house of the Lord thy God for any vow: for euen both
these are abomination vnto the Lord thy God.
Looks like you have been overruled, faggot.

The Church couches by such proposition, a continuing reliance upon
symbolic theology and philosophy of religion derived from Pythagorean
onomantick hymeneal (HETEROS: MARRIAGE) mysticism as a regime of Roman
Imperial religious/political governance. Which as blasphemy, is a
dynamic contention of opposites expressed between the Roman Imperial
religious/political hymeneal conception of the hyponomos (under law;
subject to law), as its natural and common law association to the
chronological hyponomic character of the hypostatis (eg: 12 x 6J = 72J +
3(3²+1)/2 = 457 BCE + 70 weeks = 33 CE as hypothetical) and the
personality of Jesus (YHVS) Christ--refusing to acknowledge the First
Cause as a Personality.
"In any society there exists a somewhat mysterious consensus, which
changes over the decades, and for which it is not pretentious to use the
German loan-word Zeitgeist {ie. the animating or defining spirit or mood
of a particular period of history as shown by the ideas and beliefs of
the time}." As the experience of a dominant cultural climate that
defines, particularly in Hegelian thinking, an era in the dialectical
progression of a people or the world at large. Hegel's (1770-1831) main
contribution to the formulation of the concept of Volksgeist ('Spirit of
the Nation') is the attribution of a historical character to the
concept. Examples of similar foundational concepts within the Australian
Absolute Astronomy.com]
But does Richard Dawkins pretentions upon the German word 'geist' as
spooks, extend to poltergeist projections as well?
I don't get the impression that Dawkins directly rejects the general
concept of 'faith,' but, more importantly, discusses the differences
between scientific/rational thinking (which is dynamic and allows for
revision with the progression of time bringing us closer to the truth)
and the unhealthy, destructive and irrational religious thinking (which
is static, governed by interpretation of the bible, and contains
predetermined truths). Dawkins use of the theory of evolution in that
discussion was not to address the general issue of 'faith', but to
demonstrate the progressive nature in the scientific method. [Science
Blog entry: 2006.11.11 Misunderstanding Dawkins]
Next he'll be claiming that this static within interstitial space {ie.
has a Casimir effect described by quantum field theory} as the product
of mysterious psychokinetic phenomena to unconscious projections due to
psychic conflict, thereby constitutes speech--An electric hair dryer is
such an invention.
Pope Benedict XVI responding to such a disturbing notion at his
University of Jordan address on 9 May 2009 during his détente with the
Muslim world, said that faith and reason support each other. Religion
purifies reason of the temptation to presumption: "And as believers in
the one God we know that human reason is itself God’s gift and that it
soars to its highest plane when suffused with the light of God’s truth.
In fact, when human reason humbly allows itself to be purified by faith,
it is far from weakened; rather, it is strengthened to resist
presumption (was he thinking of Christopher Hitchens?) and to reach
beyond its own limitations."
Nevertheless, Dawkins on page 301 in his book 'The God Delusion'
published in 2006, draws upon this analogy as the progression of ideas,
in relating it to female suffrage. Which he observes, is now universal
in the world's democracies and is conceptually different from what the
common law state did. But this reform, as he suggests is in fact
astonishingly recent. Here are some dates at which women were granted
1893 - New Zealand
1902 - Australia
1906 - Finland
1913 - Norway
1920 - United States
1928 - Britain
1945 - France
1946 - Belgium
1971 - Switzerland
2006 - Kuwait
This spread of dates through the twentieth century, Dawkins considers is
a gauge of the shifting Zeitgeist rather than evidence of the modern
regulatory and administrative state engaging within a trans-substantive
justification with respect to any former nationalistic anachronism such
as the white Australia policy.
In this way, human reason is emboldened to pursue its noble purpose of
serving mankind, giving expression to our deepest common aspirations and
extending, rather than manipulating or confining, public debate. Thus,
genuine adherence to religion – far from narrowing our minds – widens
the horizon of human understanding. It protects civil society from the
excesses of the unbridled ego which tend to absolutize the finite and
eclipse the infinite; (a dig at Richard Dawkins perhaps?) it ensures
that freedom is exercised hand in hand with truth, and it adorns culture
with insights concerning all that is true, good and beautiful.
It was a remarkable performance -- to explain the deepest notions of
Christian theology to a potentially hostile audience and leave without a
murmur of criticism. It seems clear that the Pope is seeking outcomes
from this dialogue with Muslim leaders -- more respect for Christianity,
more religious tolerance, more common action against secularism, more
common action in support of human dignity. How long it will take for the
message to sink in is a different matter. [Vatican Speech 2009.5.9,
Copyright 2009 - Libreria Editrice Vaticana, added emphasis from Michael
Cook 14 May 2009, MercatorNet.com]
Similarly the use of the Hebrew genealogy [Matthew 1:17; Luke 3:23-38]
is an attributed hypostatic metashematizo [2 Corinthians 11:14-15] to
define the character of the consecrated elements to the host [John
6:46-59] and compass or organic influence (ie. Zeitgeist) of the Godhead
as Elohiym, is derived from the biblical text of [1 Corinthians
12:20-26] which, in referring to the human body infers the genitalia by
"our unpresentable-ASCHEMON parts have greater modesty-EUSCHEMOSUNE"
Words with similar definitions obtained from the Perseus Digital
Latin 1: conformatio 2: defingo 3: Megara (great houses such as Corinth;
respected Greek city-state) 4: conformo 5: figuratio
metaschêmatizô
With respects to the former schismatic presumptions as the geo-centric
Pythagorean and Julian perspective of the cosmology which had pervaded
since Greek astronomer and geographer Ptolemy (120 CE), I recently asked
Australians how they thought Captain James Cook mapped the east coast of
the continent and whether he made use of any recent technological
innovations, or as dependency upon a geo-centric and otherwise central
point of inexactitude in deference to the Dutch and their Intellectual
Property.
It was James Cook who had ambition not only to go farther than any man
had been before: (ie. The Dolphin voyage of 1766 CE was compromised by
the ship's nails being exchanged for sexual favors amongst the
Polynesian Islanders), but as far as it was possible for a man to
go--seized possession of Terra Australis on 20 April 1770 CE. A little
known aspect of Cook's voyage was his use of the first really accurate
chronometer that could be transported by sea. As a result of this
innovation he was able to accurately record longitude as well as
latitude. Latitude could be determined accurately using a sextant, but
accurate longitude had to wait for John Harrison to invent the
chronometer as the innovation that allowed Cook to depict Australia
cartographically and without reference to other maps.
Wasn't the planet Venus also used as the principle mode in determining
longitude? Observations made by appointment of the Royal Society at King
George's Island in the South Sea by Mr Charles Green, formerly assistant
at the Royal Observatory at Greenwich, and Lieutenant James Cook of His
Majesty's ship the Endeavour are recorded in the 1771 CE Philosophical
Transactions of the Royal Society, Vol. 61, p 41.
I simply make the observation that the planetary deities within the
Torah are also concerned with a computational and semiotic statement
about the cosmology having a pious and genealogical relationship with
the Hebrews, between the seven-day cycle and the Equinox cycles as
providing a relationship ('sanctification') and relativity to the
infinite as eternity. This worldview is also able to accommodate the
recent suggested finding of a 35,000 year old anthropological image of
the planet Venus located in German caves.
The other point I make in relation to this is the requirement for a
geo-centric paradigm of mind and governance, is that the planetary
metaschema known from Pythagoras (580-500 BCE) to Ptolemy (120 CE) to
1582 CE Gregorian calendar reforms was the 28 year x 365.25 cycle
computation made by the former Julian calendar. My view of the cosmology
given by NASA's Reference Publication on Fifty Year Canon of Solar
Eclipses: 1986 to 2035 by Fred Espenak, is that the Australian
geocentric--and I use this with great latitude within the field of: 4
degrees and inexactitude of longitude: 12 degrees--as proximity of solar
eclipses go, might equally be said to qualify for the purpose of
determination of a central orientation for its geo-centric technological
based paradigm of mind and governance.
33.6E on 4 December 2002 + 28 years,
18.5E on 25 November 2030
- dolf
- http://www.grapple.id.au/Chronicles/automata.html

Barry OGrady

2009-05-18 13:40:56 UTC

On Mon, 18 May 2009 02:11:15 GMT, dolf <***@hotmail.com> wrote:

<rubbish>

You don't deserve rights.
Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og

The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by
an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason,
observation, and experience merits everlasting pain,
is too absurd for refutation, and can be relieved
only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and
ignorance called 'faith.'
[Robert Green Ingersoll]

dolf

2009-05-18 20:19:15 UTC

Is autism your problem--why do you see the need to afflict others with
your problem?

- dolf

Post by Barry OGrady
<rubbish>
You don't deserve rights.
Barry
=====
Home page
http://members.iinet.net.au/~barry.og
The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by
an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason,
observation, and experience merits everlasting pain,
is too absurd for refutation, and can be relieved
only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and
ignorance called 'faith.'
[Robert Green Ingersoll]

Barry

2009-05-19 02:03:47 UTC

Post by dolf
Is autism your problem--why do you see the need to afflict others with
your problem?

You are repeating yourself.

Post by dolf
- dol[t]

dolf

2009-05-18 20:22:38 UTC

Is autism your problem--why do you see the need to afflict others with
your problem?

- dolf

Post by Barry OGrady
<rubbish>
You don't deserve rights.
The notion that faith in Christ is to be rewarded by
an eternity of bliss, while a dependence upon reason,
observation, and experience merits everlasting pain,
is too absurd for refutation, and can be relieved
only by that unhappy mixture of insanity and
ignorance called 'faith.'
[Robert Green Ingersoll]

Barry

2009-05-19 02:04:26 UTC

Post by dolf
Is autism your problem--why do you see the need to afflict others with
your problem?

You are repeating yourself.

Post by dolf
- dol[t]

walksalone

2009-05-18 11:31:57 UTC

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:16 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Excuse me?

No.
Who is the liar here, Randy Young?
You are.

Snip, no she isn't. You are due to ignorance, or using the xian myth to
justify your hatred of homosexuals. Either way, history & not the
contious revision of scripture, xian scripture to be exact, which has a
history of beiong revised to pander to currenrt social tastes & lack of
willingness to learn the damn thing for themselves.

Only one source which demonstrates beyond reasonable doubt, that xianity
condoned & accepted homosexual marriages.

BTW, get used to seeing this in response to blind hatred that is only
justified from the pulpit.

http://www.drizzle.com/~slmndr/salamandir/pubs/irishtimes/opt3.htm

Tuesday, August 11, 1998
When marriage between
gays was by rite
RITE AND REASON: A Kiev art museum contains a curious icon from St
Catherine's monastery on Mount Sinai. It shows two robed Christian
saints. Between them is a traditional Roman pronubus (best man)
overseeing what in a standard Roman icon would be the wedding of a
husband and wife. In the icon, Christ is the pronubus. Only one thing is
unusual. The "husband and wife" are in fact two men.

Is the icon suggesting that a homosexual "marriage" is one sanctified by
Christ? The very idea initially seems shocking. The full answer comes
from other sources about the two men featured, St Serge and St Bacchus,
two Roman soldiers who became Christian martyrs.

While the pairing of saints, particularly in the early Church, was not
unusual, the association of these two men was regarded as particularly
close. Severus of Antioch in the sixth century explained that "we should
not separate in speech [Serge and Bacchus] who were joined in life". More
bluntly, in the definitive 10th century Greek account of their lives, St
Serge is openly described as the "sweet companion and lover" of St
Bacchus.

In other words, it confirms what the earlier icon implies, that they were
a homosexual couple. Unusually their orientation and relationship was
openly accepted by early Christian writers. Furthermore, in an image that
to some modern Christian eyes might border on blasphemy, the icon has
Christ himself as their pronubus, their best man overseeing their
"marriage".

The very idea of a Christian homosexual marriage seems incredible. Yet
after a 12-year search of Catholic and Orthodox church archives Yale
history professor John Boswell has discovered that a type of Christian
homosexual "marriage" did exist as late as the 18th century.

Contrary to myth, Christianity's concept of marriage has not been set in
stone since the days of Christ, but has evolved both as a concept and as
a ritual. Prof Boswell discovered that in addition to heterosexual
marriage ceremonies in ancient church liturgical documents (and clearly
separate from other types of non-marital blessings such as blessings of
adopted children or land) were ceremonies called, among other titles, the
"Office of Same Sex Union" (10th and 11th century Greek) or the "Order
for Uniting Two Men" (11th and 12th century).

These ceremonies had all the contemporary symbols of a marriage: a
community gathered in church, a blessing of the couple before the altar,
their right hands joined as at heterosexual marriages, the participation
of a priest, the taking of the Eucharist, a wedding banquet aftet
afterwards. All of which are shown in contemporary drawings of the same
sex union of Byzantine Emperor Basil I (867-886) and his companion John.
Such homosexual unions also took place in Ireland in the late 12th/early
13th century, as the chronicler Gerald of Wales (Geraldus Cambrensis) has
recorded.

Boswell's book, The Marriage of Likeness: Same Sex Unions in Pre- Modern
Europe, lists in detail some same sex union ceremonies found in ancient
church liturgical documents. One Greek 13th century "Order for
Solemnisation of Same Sex Union" having invoked St Serge and St Bacchus,
called on God to "vouchsafe unto these thy servants [N and N] grace to
love one another and to abide unhated and not a cause of scandal all the
days of their lives, with the help of the Holy Mother of God and all thy
saints." The ceremony concludes: "And they shall kiss the Holy Gospel and
each other, and it shall be concluded."

Another 14th century Serbian Slavonic "Office of Same Sex Union", uniting
two men or two women, had the couple having their right hands laid on the
Gospel while having a cross placed in their left hands. Having kissed the
Gospel, the couple were then required to kiss each other, after which the
priest, having raised up the Eucharist, would give them both communion.

Boswell found records of same-sex unions in such diverse archives as
those in the Vatican, in St Petersburg, in Paris, Istanbul, and in Sinai,
covering a period from the 8th to the 18th centuries. Nor is he the
first to make such a discovery. The Dominican Jacques Goar (1601-1653)
includes such ceremonies in a printed collection of Greek prayer books.

While homosexuality was technically illegal from late Roman times, it was
only from about the 14th century that anti-homosexual feelings swept
western Europe. Yet same sex union ceremonies continued to take place.

At St John Lateran in Rome (traditionally the Pope's parish Church) in
1578 as many as 13 couples were "married" at Mass with the apparent co-
operation of the local clergy, "taking Communion together, using the same
nuptial Scripture, after which they slept and ate together", according to
a contemporary report.

Another woman-to-woman union is recorded in Dalmatia in the 18th century.
Many questionable historical claims about the church have been made by
some recent writers in this newspaper.

Boswell's academic study however is so well researched and sourced as to
pose fundamental questions for both modern church leaders and
heterosexual Christians about their attitude towards homosexuality.

FOR the Church to ignore the evidence in its own archives would be a
cowardly cop-out. That evidence shows convincingly that what the modern
church claims has been its constant unchanging attitude towards
homosexuality is in fact nothing of the sort.

It proves that for much of the last two millennia, in parish churches and
cathedrals throughout Christendom from Ireland to Istanbul and in the
heart of Rome itself, homosexual relationships were accepted as valid
expressions of a God-given ability to love and commit to another person,
a love that could be celebrated, honoured and blessed both in the name
of, and through the Eucharist in the presence of Jesus Christ.

Jim Duffy is a writer and historian. The Marriage of Likeness: Same Sex
Unions in Pre-Modern Europe by John Boswell is published by Harper
Collins.

Post by <Kelly>
Looks like you have been overruled, faggot.

Looks like your lack of knowledge about your myth, & its historical
foundations, have made a public liar out of you. But that is not
unusual for xains, after all, bluster works from the pulpit. But not in
real life where others know so very much more about the odious evolution
of xianity.

walksalone who would be embarassed to display such depths of ignorance.
Nor is he required to.

"Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a
Christian, presumably giving the
meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we
should take all means to
prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast
ignorance in a Christian and
laugh
it to scorn." -- Augustine, The Literal Meaning of Genesis

2009-05-18 02:36:34 UTC

On Sun, 17 May 2009 07:16:34 -0700 (PDT), "<Kelly>"

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 21:25:16 -0500,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Excuse me? Who is the liar here, Randy Young? Not me - I already
produced the correct version of that verse in Deuteronomy. You
know...the version that is correctly aligned with the actual Hebrew
"None of the daughters of Israel shall be a cult prostitute, nor
shall any of the sons of Israel be a cult prostitute. You shall not
bring the hire of a harlot or the wages of a dog into the house of the
LORD your God for any votive offering, for both of these are an
abomination to the LORD your God." ( Deuteronomy 23:17-18 NASB )

6945. qadesh, kaw-dashe'; from H6942; a (quasi) sacred person, i.e.
(techn.) a (male) devotee (by prostitution) to licentious
idolatry:--sodomite, unclean.

You lose again.

Post by <Kelly>
You see, Randy - if you knew anything about proper exegesis, you would
understand that because the Hebrew word used by God here is
"qadesh" (male Temple prositute). The same form of the word Hebrew
qadesh is also used in Genesis 38:21-22, I Kings 14:24, I Kings 15:12,
II Kings 23:7, Job 36:14, and Hosea 4:14. In none of these instances
where qadesh is used is there a reference to the improperly translated
"Sodomites" but to the properly translated "cult temple prostitute".
I'm curious - do you always use Bible translations willy-nilly and
pick-and-choose until you find the version that suits your hatred and
fears? Or do you just wrongly divide and misrepresent the Word of
Truth for fun?

2009-05-18 02:34:52 UTC

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

Rod

2009-05-18 03:55:59 UTC

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

In her case I don't see confusion being the problem. I think she
is pure evil and lying deliberately. I don't recall where Christ
said in scripture that the infirm should be tortured and held up
to ridicule.

Perhaps I take the world to seriously, but our country is being
torn apart by power struggles between the far right and the insane
left, and here we are in between watching her spread more trash.

What sickens me most is her defiant attitude and lying tongue..

Dr. House

2009-05-18 04:08:29 UTC

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

In her case I don't see confusion being the problem. I think she
is pure evil and lying deliberately.

Well, if you think something then it _must_ be true. =)
See below

I don't recall where Christ
said in scripture that the infirm should be tortured and held up
to ridicule.

I don't recall that either. What scripture have you been reading?

Perhaps I take the world to seriously, but our country is being
torn apart by power struggles between the far right and the insane
left, and here we are in between watching her spread more trash.

How does that work again? She is evil for having an opinion? Yet it
seems you are not moderate.

What sickens me most is her defiant attitude and lying tongue..

A lying tongue that is based on your opinion?

Randy ®

2009-05-18 12:56:53 UTC

On Sun, 17 May 2009 21:08:29 -0700 (PDT),
In newsgroup "alt.bible",
Article

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

In her case I don't see confusion being the problem. I think she
is pure evil and lying deliberately.

Well, if you think something then it _must_ be true. =)
See below

I don't recall where Christ
said in scripture that the infirm should be tortured and held up
to ridicule.

I don't recall that either. What scripture have you been reading?

Perhaps I take the world to seriously, but our country is being
torn apart by power struggles between the far right and the insane
left, and here we are in between watching her spread more trash.

How does that work again? She is evil for having an opinion? Yet it
seems you are not moderate.

What sickens me most is her defiant attitude and lying tongue..

A lying tongue that is based on your opinion?

Sick off moron. She's trying to justify what the Bible
plainly says is an abomination. If you can't draw yourself to
admit that, then quit feigning to believe what the Bible says.

--
Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
______________________________________________
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www.facebook.com/people/Randy-Faithguard/1088671914
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Dr. House

2009-05-18 13:17:43 UTC

Post by Randy Â®
On Sun, 17 May 2009 21:08:29 -0700 (PDT),
In newsgroup "alt.bible",
Article

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

In her case I don't see confusion being the problem. I think she
is pure evil and lying deliberately.

Well, if you think something then it _must_ be true. =)
See below

I don't recall where Christ
said in scripture that the infirm should be tortured and held up
to ridicule.

I don't recall that either. What scripture have you been reading?

Perhaps I take the world to seriously, but our country is being
torn apart by power struggles between the far right and the insane
left, and here we are in between watching her spread more trash.

How does that work again? She is evil for having an opinion? Yet it
seems you are not moderate.

What sickens me most is her defiant attitude and lying tongue..

A lying tongue that is based on your opinion?

Sick off moron.

Ah, the sign of strength.

Post by Randy Â®
She's trying to justify what the Bible
plainly says is an abomination.

Abraham lived in abomination. It bothered God so much that God never
said a word about it to Abraham and instead promised to genocide all
the people in Cannan so that Abraham could have that land for his own
children. Jacob lived in abomination from the time he took his
favorite wife. It bothered God so much that he didn't say a word
about it to Jacob and passed the promise on to him and his family.

Post by Randy Â®
If you can't draw yourself to
admit that,

Kindly quit misrepresenting me. Thank you very much. At no point
have I said or implied that the bible doesn't call gay an
abomination. If you would like to know where I stand on an issue then
ask. If you don't ask that then don't blame me.

Post by Randy Â®
. . . then quit feigning to believe what the Bible says.

If you want to know all you have to do is ask. The likely reason the
heros from Genesis were living abominations is that the authors of
Genesis, Leviticus and Deuteronomy didn't compare notes. The legend
of Abraham and Jacob along with the details were probably established
first and then the list of abominations were figured out later.

God bless,

House

<Kelly>

2009-05-18 13:30:05 UTC

Post by Randy Â®
On Sun, 17 May 2009 21:08:29 -0700 (PDT),
In newsgroup "alt.bible",
Article

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

In her case I don't see confusion being the problem. I think she
is pure evil and lying deliberately.

Well, if you think something then it _must_ be true. =)
See below

I don't recall where Christ
said in scripture that the infirm should be tortured and held up
to ridicule.

I don't recall that either. What scripture have you been reading?

Perhaps I take the world to seriously, but our country is being
torn apart by power struggles between the far right and the insane
left, and here we are in between watching her spread more trash.

How does that work again? She is evil for having an opinion? Yet it
seems you are not moderate.

What sickens me most is her defiant attitude and lying tongue..

A lying tongue that is based on your opinion?

Sick off moron.

Well...I think we all know what "sick" is a substitute for. Way to
go, Randy. How well has *that* evangelism method been working for
you?

Post by Randy Â®
She's trying to justify what the Bible
plainly says is an abomination.

But which Bible, Randy? The NASB has been recognized by theologians
as the translation most correct and true to the orignal languages for
decades - far and above the "popular" NIV and the poorly translated
KJV. I guess you just choose your Bible verses from the version that
suits your hatred and prejudices best, hmmm...?

Post by Randy Â®
Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
glory (Eph. 2:8-9).

You don't believe any of the above and you certainly don't care if
anyone else believes it, either. If you did, you wouldn't be the
hater you very obviously are.

Rod

2009-05-19 02:29:03 UTC

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

In her case I don't see confusion being the problem. I think she
is pure evil and lying deliberately.

Well, if you think something then it _must_ be true. =)
See below

Post by Rod
I don't recall where Christ
said in scripture that the infirm should be tortured and held up
to ridicule.

I don't recall that either. What scripture have you been reading?

Post by Rod
Perhaps I take the world to seriously, but our country is being
torn apart by power struggles between the far right and the insane
left, and here we are in between watching her spread more trash.

How does that work again? She is evil for having an opinion?

Did I say that ? No, you assumed it. It might be a good idea from now
on to stop assuming things and realize that you don't know shit !

Yet it

Post by Dr. House
seems you are not moderate.

Post by Rod
What sickens me most is her defiant attitude and lying tongue..

A lying tongue that is based on your opinion?

Dr. House

2009-05-19 02:41:44 UTC

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

In her case I don't see confusion being the problem. I think she
is pure evil and lying deliberately.

Well, if you think something then it _must_ be true. =)
See below

I don't recall where Christ
said in scripture that the infirm should be tortured and held up
to ridicule.

I don't recall that either. What scripture have you been reading?

Perhaps I take the world to seriously, but our country is being
torn apart by power struggles between the far right and the insane
left, and here we are in between watching her spread more trash.

How does that work again? She is evil for having an opinion?

Did I say that ? No, you assumed it. It might be a good idea from now
on to stop assuming things and realize that you don't know shit !

Okay there is this curved line with a dot under it. It starts off
turning to the right. Then it makes a sharp turn to the left. And it
looks exactly like this -> ?

When you see one of those it means you are being asked a question.
That is your opportunity to say yes, no, maybe so, or anything else
you wish to add or correct. It does _not_ mean someone has assumed
something about you. It means they want information from you.

Try to keep that in mind.

Now you did make a nonsensical rant about politics and a poster here -
well you were all over the place. If you don't know how to
communicate you can ask. If you do it nicely people might give you
tips.

God bless,

House

Rod

2009-05-19 02:46:02 UTC

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

In her case I don't see confusion being the problem. I think she
is pure evil and lying deliberately.

Well, if you think something then it _must_ be true. =)
See below

Post by Rod
I don't recall where Christ
said in scripture that the infirm should be tortured and held up
to ridicule.

I don't recall that either. What scripture have you been reading?

How does that work again? She is evil for having an opinion?

Did I say that ? No, you assumed it. It might be a good idea from now
on to stop assuming things and realize that you don't know shit !

And when you see my middle finger flying in the breeze that means
your question, which is derived of assumptions you've made is of
little to absolutely ZERO importance to me.

I hope this helps..

dolf

2009-05-18 05:18:36 UTC

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

In her case I don't see confusion being the problem. I think she
is pure evil and lying deliberately. I don't recall where Christ
said in scripture that the infirm should be tortured and held up
to ridicule.
Perhaps I take the world to seriously, but our country is being
torn apart by power struggles between the far right and the insane
left, and here we are in between watching her spread more trash.
What sickens me most is her defiant attitude and lying tongue..

Post by Rod
If someone is nice to you then they cannot be not nice to anybody
else?

Did I say anything about him being "nice" to me? You are, once again,
reading into what is not even there and drawing conclusions based on
assumption.

You implied it.
"I've had an ongoing email relationship with Carl for over a year. He
is definitely not a jerk."
How does your email relationship make Carl not a jerk? I can point to
Carl being a jerk anywhere you like. The evidence of that is
everywhere.

Post by CB
Not very wise.

You are not giving me anything to work with. You are not saying
anything beyond your conclusion. I'm asking you about your position.
I'm not getting anything back.

Post by <Kelly>
You are really taking this entire thing way out of proportion.

Nine out of ten posts from Carl say the same thing. They are all
about Carl's very negative opinion of one person.

Yeah...and? You have proven on a regular basis how you read into
what's said and make assumptions about the rest.

Uh where? You mean the place where I ask you to define and support
your position?

Post by CB
Have you even
considered that what you see maybe ain't exactly what you think it is?

I give you opportunities to show that left and right but you are not
interested. Don't blame me if you refuse to try.

Post by CB
<snipped remainder unread and unanswered until House decides to look
at the Carl/Dolf issue with more objectivity>

How am I suppose to look at what you don't write? Talk if you want to
talk. Don't talk if you do not want to talk. Don't blame me if you
didn't present an argument or even an explanation.
Meanwhile Carl will continue to harass someone with the same negative
spam.
God bless,
House

Barry OGrady

2009-05-18 13:42:55 UTC

Post by dolf
That she's claimed to be a Lesbian having a year-long email exchange
with Carl McCluskey who vehemently denies being a Baptist.

Westboro Baptist Church awaits you. godhatesfags.com .

Post by dolf
- dol[t]

walksalone

2009-05-18 11:35:49 UTC

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

snip

& you, what are you dioing to help heal the coluntry. Where is that
famous missing xian love for others? Absent like in most cases.

BTW, the facts are on her side, not yours. But your demonstrsated blind
hatered blinds you to the obvious.

Post by Rod
What sickens me most is her defiant attitude and lying tongue..

Which means we should overlook yours. I don't think so.

One more time about gays & their acceptance by the churches of xianity.

http://www.drizzle.com/~slmndr/salamandir/pubs/irishtimes/opt3.htm

Tuesday, August 11, 1998
When marriage between
gays was by rite
RITE AND REASON: A Kiev art museum contains a curious icon from St
Catherine's monastery on Mount Sinai. It shows two robed Christian
saints. Between them is a traditional Roman pronubus (best man)
overseeing what in a standard Roman icon would be the wedding of a
husband and wife. In the icon, Christ is the pronubus. Only one thing is
unusual. The "husband and wife" are in fact two men.

Is the icon suggesting that a homosexual "marriage" is one sanctified by
Christ? The very idea initially seems shocking. The full answer comes
from other sources about the two men featured, St Serge and St Bacchus,
two Roman soldiers who became Christian martyrs.

While the pairing of saints, particularly in the early Church, was not
unusual, the association of these two men was regarded as particularly
close. Severus of Antioch in the sixth century explained that "we should
not separate in speech [Serge and Bacchus] who were joined in life". More
bluntly, in the definitive 10th century Greek account of their lives, St
Serge is openly described as the "sweet companion and lover" of St
Bacchus.

In other words, it confirms what the earlier icon implies, that they were
a homosexual couple. Unusually their orientation and relationship was
openly accepted by early Christian writers. Furthermore, in an image that
to some modern Christian eyes might border on blasphemy, the icon has
Christ himself as their pronubus, their best man overseeing their
"marriage".

The very idea of a Christian homosexual marriage seems incredible. Yet
after a 12-year search of Catholic and Orthodox church archives Yale
history professor John Boswell has discovered that a type of Christian
homosexual "marriage" did exist as late as the 18th century.

Contrary to myth, Christianity's concept of marriage has not been set in
stone since the days of Christ, but has evolved both as a concept and as
a ritual. Prof Boswell discovered that in addition to heterosexual
marriage ceremonies in ancient church liturgical documents (and clearly
separate from other types of non-marital blessings such as blessings of
adopted children or land) were ceremonies called, among other titles, the
"Office of Same Sex Union" (10th and 11th century Greek) or the "Order
for Uniting Two Men" (11th and 12th century).

These ceremonies had all the contemporary symbols of a marriage: a
community gathered in church, a blessing of the couple before the altar,
their right hands joined as at heterosexual marriages, the participation
of a priest, the taking of the Eucharist, a wedding banquet aftet
afterwards. All of which are shown in contemporary drawings of the same
sex union of Byzantine Emperor Basil I (867-886) and his companion John.
Such homosexual unions also took place in Ireland in the late 12th/early
13th century, as the chronicler Gerald of Wales (Geraldus Cambrensis) has
recorded.

Boswell's book, The Marriage of Likeness: Same Sex Unions in Pre- Modern
Europe, lists in detail some same sex union ceremonies found in ancient
church liturgical documents. One Greek 13th century "Order for
Solemnisation of Same Sex Union" having invoked St Serge and St Bacchus,
called on God to "vouchsafe unto these thy servants [N and N] grace to
love one another and to abide unhated and not a cause of scandal all the
days of their lives, with the help of the Holy Mother of God and all thy
saints." The ceremony concludes: "And they shall kiss the Holy Gospel and
each other, and it shall be concluded."

Another 14th century Serbian Slavonic "Office of Same Sex Union", uniting
two men or two women, had the couple having their right hands laid on the
Gospel while having a cross placed in their left hands. Having kissed the
Gospel, the couple were then required to kiss each other, after which the
priest, having raised up the Eucharist, would give them both communion.

Boswell found records of same-sex unions in such diverse archives as
those in the Vatican, in St Petersburg, in Paris, Istanbul, and in Sinai,
covering a period from the 8th to the 18th centuries. Nor is he the
first to make such a discovery. The Dominican Jacques Goar (1601-1653)
includes such ceremonies in a printed collection of Greek prayer books.

While homosexuality was technically illegal from late Roman times, it was
only from about the 14th century that anti-homosexual feelings swept
western Europe. Yet same sex union ceremonies continued to take place.

At St John Lateran in Rome (traditionally the Pope's parish Church) in
1578 as many as 13 couples were "married" at Mass with the apparent co-
operation of the local clergy, "taking Communion together, using the same
nuptial Scripture, after which they slept and ate together", according to
a contemporary report.

Another woman-to-woman union is recorded in Dalmatia in the 18th century.
Many questionable historical claims about the church have been made by
some recent writers in this newspaper.

Boswell's academic study however is so well researched and sourced as to
pose fundamental questions for both modern church leaders and
heterosexual Christians about their attitude towards homosexuality.

FOR the Church to ignore the evidence in its own archives would be a
cowardly cop-out. That evidence shows convincingly that what the modern
church claims has been its constant unchanging attitude towards
homosexuality is in fact nothing of the sort.

It proves that for much of the last two millennia, in parish churches and
cathedrals throughout Christendom from Ireland to Istanbul and in the
heart of Rome itself, homosexual relationships were accepted as valid
expressions of a God-given ability to love and commit to another person,
a love that could be celebrated, honoured and blessed both in the name
of, and through the Eucharist in the presence of Jesus Christ.

Jim Duffy is a writer and historian. The Marriage of Likeness: Same Sex
Unions in Pre-Modern Europe by John Boswell is published by Harper
Collins.

Dr. House

2009-05-18 13:32:51 UTC

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters
of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

snip

Perhaps I take the world to seriously, but our country is being
torn apart by power struggles between the far right and the insane
left, and here we are in between watching her spread more trash.

& you, what are you dioing to help heal the coluntry. Where is that
famous missing xian love for others? Absent like in most cases.
BTW, the facts are on her side, not yours. But your demonstrsated blind
hatered blinds you to the obvious.

What sickens me most is her defiant attitude and lying tongue..

Which means we should overlook yours. I don't think so.
One more time about gays & their acceptance by the churches of xianity.
http://www.drizzle.com/~slmndr/salamandir/pubs/irishtimes/opt3.htm
Tuesday, August 11, 1998
When marriage between
gays was by rite
RITE AND REASON: A Kiev art museum contains a curious icon from St
Catherine's monastery on Mount Sinai. It shows two robed Christian
saints. Between them is a traditional Roman pronubus (best man)
overseeing what in a standard Roman icon would be the wedding of a
husband and wife. In the icon, Christ is the pronubus. Only one thing is
unusual. The "husband and wife" are in fact two men.
Is the icon suggesting that a homosexual "marriage" is one sanctified by
Christ? The very idea initially seems shocking. The full answer comes
from other sources about the two men featured, St Serge and St Bacchus,
two Roman soldiers who became Christian martyrs.
While the pairing of saints, particularly in the early Church, was not
unusual, the association of these two men was regarded as particularly
close. Severus of Antioch in the sixth century explained that "we should
not separate in speech [Serge and Bacchus] who were joined in life". More
bluntly, in the definitive 10th century Greek account of their lives, St
Serge is openly described as the "sweet companion and lover" of St
Bacchus.
In other words, it confirms what the earlier icon implies, that they were
a homosexual couple. Unusually their orientation and relationship was
openly accepted by early Christian writers. Furthermore, in an image that
to some modern Christian eyes might border on blasphemy, the icon has
Christ himself as their pronubus, their best man overseeing their
"marriage".
The very idea of a Christian homosexual marriage seems incredible. Yet
after a 12-year search of Catholic and Orthodox church archives Yale
history professor John Boswell has discovered that a type of Christian
homosexual "marriage" did exist as late as the 18th century.
Contrary to myth, Christianity's concept of marriage has not been set in
stone since the days of Christ, but has evolved both as a concept and as
a ritual. Prof Boswell discovered that in addition to heterosexual
marriage ceremonies in ancient church liturgical documents (and clearly
separate from other types of non-marital blessings such as blessings of
adopted children or land) were ceremonies called, among other titles, the
"Office of Same Sex Union" (10th and 11th century Greek) or the "Order
for Uniting Two Men" (11th and 12th century).
These ceremonies had all the contemporary symbols of a marriage: a
community gathered in church, a blessing of the couple before the altar,
their right hands joined as at heterosexual marriages, the participation
of a priest, the taking of the Eucharist, a wedding banquet aftet
afterwards. All of which are shown in contemporary drawings of the same
sex union of Byzantine Emperor Basil I (867-886) and his companion John.
Such homosexual unions also took place in Ireland in the late 12th/early
13th century, as the chronicler Gerald of Wales (Geraldus Cambrensis) has
recorded.
Boswell's book, The Marriage of Likeness: Same Sex Unions in Pre- Modern
Europe, lists in detail some same sex union ceremonies found in ancient
church liturgical documents. One Greek 13th century "Order for
Solemnisation of Same Sex Union" having invoked St Serge and St Bacchus,
called on God to "vouchsafe unto these thy servants [N and N] grace to
love one another and to abide unhated and not a cause of scandal all the
days of their lives, with the help of the Holy Mother of God and all thy
saints." The ceremony concludes: "And they shall kiss the Holy Gospel and
each other, and it shall be concluded."
Another 14th century Serbian Slavonic "Office of Same Sex Union", uniting
two men or two women, had the couple having their right hands laid on the
Gospel while having a cross placed in their left hands. Having kissed the
Gospel, the couple were then required to kiss each other, after which the
priest, having raised up the Eucharist, would give them both communion.
Boswell found records of same-sex unions in such diverse archives as
those in the Vatican, in St Petersburg, in Paris, Istanbul, and in Sinai,
covering a period from the 8th to the 18th centuries. Nor is he the
first to make such a discovery. The Dominican Jacques Goar (1601-1653)
includes such ceremonies in a printed collection of Greek prayer books.
While homosexuality was technically illegal from late Roman times, it was
only from about the 14th century that anti-homosexual feelings swept
western Europe. Yet same sex union ceremonies continued to take place.
At St John Lateran in Rome (traditionally the Pope's parish Church) in
1578 as many as 13 couples were "married" at Mass with the apparent co-
operation of the local clergy, "taking Communion together, using the same
nuptial Scripture, after which they slept and ate together", according to
a contemporary report.
Another woman-to-woman union is recorded in Dalmatia in the 18th century.
Many questionable historical claims about the church have been made by
some recent writers in this newspaper.
Boswell's academic study however is so well researched and sourced as to
pose fundamental questions for both modern church leaders and
heterosexual Christians about their attitude towards homosexuality.
FOR the Church to ignore the evidence in its own archives would be a
cowardly cop-out. That evidence shows convincingly that what the modern
church claims has been its constant unchanging attitude towards
homosexuality is in fact nothing of the sort.
It proves that for much of the last two millennia, in parish churches and
cathedrals throughout Christendom from Ireland to Istanbul and in the
heart of Rome itself, homosexual relationships were accepted as valid
expressions of a God-given ability to love and commit to another person,
a love that could be celebrated, honoured and blessed both in the name
of, and through the Eucharist in the presence of Jesus Christ.
Jim Duffy is a writer and historian. The Marriage of Likeness: Same Sex
Unions in Pre-Modern Europe by John Boswell is published by Harper
Collins.

I didn't know about this. Thanks for sharing it.

walksalone

2009-05-18 15:21:33 UTC

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daugh

ters

of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

Don't confuse her with facts. :)

snip

Perhaps I take the world to seriously, but our country is being
torn apart by power struggles between the far right and the insa

left, and here we are in between watching her spread more trash.

& you, what are you dioing to help heal the coluntry. Where is that
famous missing xian love for others? Absent like in most cases.
BTW, the facts are on her side, not yours. But your demonstrsated
blin

hatered blinds you to the obvious.

What sickens me most is her defiant attitude and lying tongue..

Which means we should overlook yours. I don't think so.
One more time about gays & their acceptance by the churches of xianity.
http://www.drizzle.com/~slmndr/salamandir/pubs/irishtimes/opt3.htm

snip

Post by Dr. House
I didn't know about this. Thanks for sharing it.

Nada, after all the usenet was concieved a means of sharing information,
& opinions.

walksalone who has found the study of mythology has led to some strange
places. Most of them do not agree with whichever myth is making a odd
claim, as in this case.

The door of a bigoted mind opens outwards so that the only result of the
pressure of facts upon it is to close it more snugly. -Ogden Nash, author
(1902-1971)

Randy ®

2009-05-17 04:02:17 UTC

On Sat, 16 May 2009 17:26:00 GMT,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Post by Ted L
Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother,
and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. "(c.f. Genesis
2:24)
Abomination before God: if a man lie down with men as he lieth with women
(Leviticus 18:22), and women with women as with men (Romans 2:26).

Correct.

--
Have you heard Christ died for our sins, and God raised Him
from the dead? Did you know God saves you from hell and
gives you eternal life through faith in this finished work alone,
not your merits (Jn. 3:16; 1 Cor. 15:1-3; Eph. 2:8-10; 2 Thess.
1:8-9)? This is so man cannot boast, and God alone gets the
glory (Eph. 2:8-9).
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Jani

2009-05-17 14:03:42 UTC

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 17:26:00 GMT,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Post by Ted L
Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother,
and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. "(c.f. Genesis
2:24)
Abomination before God: if a man lie down with men as he lieth with women
(Leviticus 18:22), and women with women as with men (Romans 2:26).

Correct.

But no-one would ever know unless they were watching the people concerned.
How much time do you spend observing these 'abominations', Randy? Do you do
it IRL? Creeping up and peering through your neighbours' bedroom windows? Or
do you just make good use of those websites which save you the trouble of
even moving out of your chair?

Jani

<Kelly>

2009-05-17 14:30:45 UTC

Post by Jani
But no-one would ever know unless they were watching the people concerned.
How much time do you spend observing these 'abominations', Randy? Do you do
it IRL? Creeping up and peering through your neighbours' bedroom windows? Or
do you just make good use of those websites which save you the trouble of
even moving out of your chair?

Ooooh...*that* was harsh! ;-)

LOL!

2009-05-18 02:39:30 UTC

On Sun, 17 May 2009 07:30:45 -0700 (PDT), "<Kelly>"

Ooooh...*that* was harsh! ;-)

It was idiotic.
Nice try.

Post by <Kelly>
LOL!

Dr. House

2009-05-18 04:13:48 UTC

Post by CB
On Sun, 17 May 2009 07:30:45 -0700 (PDT), "<Kelly>"

Ooooh...*that* was harsh! ;-)

It was idiotic.
Nice try.

Not so idiotic:

Why do the intolerant make such a big deal over homosexuality when
everyone lives in sin - all the time?

God bless,

House

Rod

2009-05-18 20:48:59 UTC

Post by CB
On Sun, 17 May 2009 07:30:45 -0700 (PDT), "<Kelly>"

Ooooh...*that* was harsh! ;-)

It was idiotic.
Nice try.

Why do the intolerant make such a big deal over homosexuality when
everyone lives in sin - all the time?

I don't...

dolf

2009-05-18 21:00:56 UTC

Heterosexuals promulgating the missionary position?

Have I said anything about that ? See, you mind runs in the gutter,
eh Dolf ?

Is Internet religious abuse any more palatable to acts of pedophilia for
you?

What hate ?

The systematic detestment shown towards a group of people, in this
case those who are attracted to members of their own gender.

Religion has nothing to do with disgust for
homosexuals or pedophiles.

The pretension-MALAKOS as onomantick basis to Pythagorean and Egyptian
marriage mysticism as BINARY apparatus and Christian identity as
ARSENOKOITE is set in contrast to the TERNARY nature of the CHINESE
perspective of this same cosmology. There is a logical mantric and manic
contention between Pythagoras' BINARY apparatus of number as
HETEROS-MARRIAGE mysticism and the Chinese use of the 64 equilibrium
elements of the Changes as functionally an equivalent BINARY apparatus.
As to God's syllogistic definition of piety-monogenes derived from
marriage-monogamous gamogenesis, not ours:

Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
[Genesis 2:24]

Abomination before God: "If a man lie down with men as he lieth with
women" [Leviticus 18:22], "and women with women as with men." [Romans 2:26]

Involving a kind of logical argument in which one proposition as the
conclusion or Telos [#2187 = 37 or 'oth cycle: #2184 / #6000 = 122J3W1D]
is inferred from two others [the major premise: which contains the law
of that will as 7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle] and [the
minor premise: which contains the command to behave in accordance with
the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the law: x 49 = 6J
or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox Wednesday 20
March] of a certain form.

"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men;
but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men
is abomination in the sight of God.

The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man
presseth into it."

THE BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY (AS 10 COMMANDMENTS) IS ASSOCIATED TO A BALANCED
TERNARY DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM
#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
Universal Law}, which contains the law of that will:

7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +

#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the
law:

x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +

#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth
as 122J3W1D) = Arch (re'shiyth as 3W1D) + c² [9(9²+1)/2]:

has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie.
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the [21st
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month."
[4Q321]] +

#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1}
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}

vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}

ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto 25
March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.
The Kabbalistic mechanistic notion presented here, is that each of the
unique 729 x 2 = 1458 (male/female) appraisals and Dynamic Natural
Associators within the systems core operate as daemons or dialectic
temporal (distinct from any chronological steeping and calendaring
orientation of them as) containers. Such origins of noumenclature which
is equally applicable to homeopathy from my view of the public Internet
discussion so far, regarding its mechanism of practice as it is for an
oncologist managing chemotherapy treatment procedures--that these
systems tend to have Kabbalistic paradigms as their semiotic basis. The
Caduceus is such a symbol, whose history of common usage, serves as a
suitable parable on confusion over what constitutes sin:

"As god of the high-road and the market-place Hermes was perhaps above
all else the patron of commerce and the fat purse: as a corollary, he
was the special protector of the traveling salesman. As spokesman for
the gods, he not only brought peace on earth (occasionally even the
peace of death), but his silver-tongued eloquence could always make the
worse appear the better cause. From this latter point of view, would not
his symbol be suitable for certain Congressmen, all medical quacks, book
agents and purveyors of vacuum cleaners, rather than for the
straight-thinking, straight-speaking therapist? As conductor of the dead
to their subterranean abode, his emblem would seem more appropriate on a
hearse than on a physician's car." [ref: Wikipedia 2009:Confusion with
the Caduceus]

Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are (only)
one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present His laws
through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but (rather) a
mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number of them. As
such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that His choice of
the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just one of an
infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have opted for. For,
not only are the laws of nature one of His "inventions", but the very
fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process, function, components,
properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that wasn’t at all mandatory!
[(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da at Tevunot -- The Knowing
Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]

We can think of the mechanistic and deterministic sinful nature against
the autonomic process of right to life in which human beings routinely
engage, as functionally equivalent to the lint filter within a clothes
dryer. And to illustrate this by drawing your attention to the
remarkable attributed correspondence which these have to the character
of the Gospel narratives, I have recently added the meta descriptors for
those Categories of Understanding which don't have a temporal connection:

var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {}, 258:
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {},
422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {}, 531:
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}

There is then an ability for us to look at each of the dialectic
containers or daemon in which this notional manifest of 'sin' occurs by
using the vCube.html document with the ?telos:422 and ?zen:7,nous:65
search options.

Considering then, the Natural and Common Law precedent for regarding
these META_NONTEMPORAL {} deterministic Categories of Understanding as
operating within an economic capacity as function {ie. The emergence and
articulation of a temporal, knowledge management paradigm as pivotal
upon the events of: 11 September 2001 + 'OTH Cycle (#2184 days) + #500 =
16 January 2009} under the Sovereign State, is an equivalency to our
earlier discussion of meta descriptor [#174 / #209 - Good or #174 / #142
- Bad] inclination and moral dichotomy associated with the allotment of
Crown Land title--deeds [#209 - #8 #200 #1 = To ease the bowels;
excrements, dung] under the colonies as nomarchy in 1852 and the
liabilities of Section IX [#142 - #40, #6, #90, #1, #5 = Out-goings,
descents or lineages; privies or sewers] in the Letters Patent of 1900
to the Australian Commonwealth of 1901, it may well be a case of the
Lieutenant Governor exercising the natural, regulative and metempirical
principles of good governance as ‘certain powers, functions, and
authorities’ declared to be vested within ‘the office of Governor
General and Commander in chief over Our said Commonwealth of Australia’.

As teleological circumscribing the Letters Patent associated to a
‘private’ status of a carriageway adjoining the North Melbourne exchange
the acrostic ethical overlay for the ‘OTH CYCLE, and of a 27 September
2001 ***@zen: 4, row: 5, col: 7, nous: 63 [Super: #317 / #26 -
Ambiguous Reversals/ Virtue of Gravity; I-Ching: H3 - Initial
Difficulties; Tetra: 3 - Mired, Ego: #232 / #63 - Origins in Reversal/
Consider Beginnings; I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap; Tetra: 62 - Doubt]
requirement for the attendance of the ambulance service at St Andrews
Street, North Melbourne—due to breaches of building security and
trans-substantive adverse reactions to Telstra’s construction in August
1999.

The Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon, is after all, a transexperiental and
transpersonal object onto which time stamped phenomenon is referred, as
to the basis or cause of its sense content. And as a heuristic {ie. a
method of solving problems for one which no algorithm is considered to
exist and which therefore depends on inductive reasoning from past
experience of similar problems} attributed to a chronological (24 hr day
/ topical year / Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2)])
hermeneutical overlay as behavioral 'a priori', it may be considered in
and of itself a jurisprudent determination as to the integrity of
statements and whether, as the measure of their categorical nature, are
compliant with the natural, regulative free-will and metempirical
principles of our legislation as jurisprudent framework and accordingly
our human, religious and Australian Constitutional rights.

"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass [1 John 5:7], than one
tittle of the law to fail Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth
another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put
away from her husband committeth adultery.'" [Luke 16:13-18 (KJV)]

II Chronicles 19:1,2

You shouldn't need a bible to make you understand that
anal sex is WRONG, just as any perversion is wrong. Fags
fight for it because it is normal for them, and they desire
acceptance. Child molesters are fighting for acceptance as well,
but none are normal.
On Sun, 17 May 2009 07:30:45 -0700 (PDT), "<Kelly>"

Ooooh...*that* was harsh! ;-)

It was idiotic.
Nice try.

Why do the intolerant make such a big deal over homosexuality when
everyone lives in sin - all the time?

I don't...

Rod

2009-05-18 21:16:07 UTC

Heterosexuals promulgating the missionary position?

Have I said anything about that ? See, you mind runs in the gutter,
eh Dolf ?

Is Internet religious abuse any more palatable to acts of pedophilia for
you?

Living in the gutter again, Dolf ?

What hate ?

The systematic detestment shown towards a group of people, in this
case those who are attracted to members of their own gender.

Religion has nothing to do with disgust for
homosexuals or pedophiles.

The pretension-MALAKOS as onomantick basis to Pythagorean and Egyptian
marriage mysticism as BINARY apparatus and Christian identity as
ARSENOKOITE is set in contrast to the TERNARY nature of the CHINESE
perspective of this same cosmology. There is a logical mantric and manic
contention between Pythagoras' BINARY apparatus of number as
HETEROS-MARRIAGE mysticism and the Chinese use of the 64 equilibrium
elements of the Changes as functionally an equivalent BINARY apparatus.
As to God's syllogistic definition of piety-monogenes derived from
Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
[Genesis 2:24]
Abomination before God: "If a man lie down with men as he lieth with
women" [Leviticus 18:22], "and women with women as with men." [Romans 2:26]
Involving a kind of logical argument in which one proposition as the
conclusion or Telos [#2187 = 37 or 'oth cycle: #2184 / #6000 = 122J3W1D]
is inferred from two others [the major premise: which contains the law
of that will as 7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle] and [the
minor premise: which contains the command to behave in accordance with
the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the law: x 49 = 6J
or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox Wednesday 20
March] of a certain form.
"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before men;
but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed among men
is abomination in the sight of God.
The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man
presseth into it."
THE BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY (AS 10 COMMANDMENTS) IS ASSOCIATED TO A BALANCED
TERNARY DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM
#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated to
the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +
#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under the
x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +
#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos ('achariyth
has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on {ie.
20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th solar
month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1 Tishri
5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the [21st
priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes steadfast} on
the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th solar month."
[4Q321]] +
#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature = Formula
of Progression of individual phenomena: #1 = {0: 1} + #2 = {0: -1, 1: 1}
+ #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0, 2: 1}}
vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}
ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of Number
(Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) - phoenix: 206
BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto 25
March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.
The Kabbalistic mechanistic notion presented here, is that each of the
unique 729 x 2 = 1458 (male/female) appraisals and Dynamic Natural
Associators within the systems core operate as daemons or dialectic
temporal (distinct from any chronological steeping and calendaring
orientation of them as) containers. Such origins of noumenclature which
is equally applicable to homeopathy from my view of the public Internet
discussion so far, regarding its mechanism of practice as it is for an
oncologist managing chemotherapy treatment procedures--that these
systems tend to have Kabbalistic paradigms as their semiotic basis. The
Caduceus is such a symbol, whose history of common usage, serves as a
"As god of the high-road and the market-place Hermes was perhaps above
all else the patron of commerce and the fat purse: as a corollary, he
was the special protector of the traveling salesman. As spokesman for
the gods, he not only brought peace on earth (occasionally even the
peace of death), but his silver-tongued eloquence could always make the
worse appear the better cause. From this latter point of view, would not
his symbol be suitable for certain Congressmen, all medical quacks, book
agents and purveyors of vacuum cleaners, rather than for the
straight-thinking, straight-speaking therapist? As conductor of the dead
to their subterranean abode, his emblem would seem more appropriate on a
hearse than on a physician's car." [ref: Wikipedia 2009:Confusion with
the Caduceus]
Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are (only)
one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present His laws
through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but (rather) a
mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number of them. As
such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that His choice of
the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just one of an
infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have opted for. For,
not only are the laws of nature one of His "inventions", but the very
fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process, function, components,
properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that wasn’t at all mandatory!
[(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da at Tevunot -- The Knowing
Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]
We can think of the mechanistic and deterministic sinful nature against
the autonomic process of right to life in which human beings routinely
engage, as functionally equivalent to the lint filter within a clothes
dryer. And to illustrate this by drawing your attention to the
remarkable attributed correspondence which these have to the character
of the Gospel narratives, I have recently added the meta descriptors for
var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
{}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {},
422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
{}, 534: {}, 535: {}, 536: {}, 547: {}, 569: {}, 574: {}, 583: {}, 584: {}
}
There is then an ability for us to look at each of the dialectic
containers or daemon in which this notional manifest of 'sin' occurs by
using the vCube.html document with the ?telos:422 and ?zen:7,nous:65
search options.
Considering then, the Natural and Common Law precedent for regarding
these META_NONTEMPORAL {} deterministic Categories of Understanding as
operating within an economic capacity as function {ie. The emergence and
articulation of a temporal, knowledge management paradigm as pivotal
upon the events of: 11 September 2001 + 'OTH Cycle (#2184 days) + #500 =
16 January 2009} under the Sovereign State, is an equivalency to our
earlier discussion of meta descriptor [#174 / #209 - Good or #174 / #142
- Bad] inclination and moral dichotomy associated with the allotment of
Crown Land title--deeds [#209 - #8 #200 #1 = To ease the bowels;
excrements, dung] under the colonies as nomarchy in 1852 and the
liabilities of Section IX [#142 - #40, #6, #90, #1, #5 = Out-goings,
descents or lineages; privies or sewers] in the Letters Patent of 1900
to the Australian Commonwealth of 1901, it may well be a case of the
Lieutenant Governor exercising the natural, regulative and metempirical
principles of good governance as ‘certain powers, functions, and
authorities’ declared to be vested within ‘the office of Governor
General and Commander in chief over Our said Commonwealth of Australia’.
As teleological circumscribing the Letters Patent associated to a
‘private’ status of a carriageway adjoining the North Melbourne exchange
the acrostic ethical overlay for the ‘OTH CYCLE, and of a 27 September
Ambiguous Reversals/ Virtue of Gravity; I-Ching: H3 - Initial
Difficulties; Tetra: 3 - Mired, Ego: #232 / #63 - Origins in Reversal/
Consider Beginnings; I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap; Tetra: 62 - Doubt]
requirement for the attendance of the ambulance service at St Andrews
Street, North Melbourne—due to breaches of building security and
trans-substantive adverse reactions to Telstra’s construction in August
1999.
The Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon, is after all, a transexperiental and
transpersonal object onto which time stamped phenomenon is referred, as
to the basis or cause of its sense content. And as a heuristic {ie. a
method of solving problems for one which no algorithm is considered to
exist and which therefore depends on inductive reasoning from past
experience of similar problems} attributed to a chronological (24 hr day
/ topical year / Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2)])
hermeneutical overlay as behavioral 'a priori', it may be considered in
and of itself a jurisprudent determination as to the integrity of
statements and whether, as the measure of their categorical nature, are
compliant with the natural, regulative free-will and metempirical
principles of our legislation as jurisprudent framework and accordingly
our human, religious and Australian Constitutional rights.
"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass [1 John 5:7], than one
tittle of the law to fail Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth
another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put
away from her husband committeth adultery.'" [Luke 16:13-18 (KJV)]

II Chronicles 19:1,2

Ooooh...*that* was harsh! ;-)

It was idiotic.
Nice try.

Why do the intolerant make such a big deal over homosexuality when
everyone lives in sin - all the time?

I don't...

dolf

2009-05-18 23:05:57 UTC

Heterosexuals promulgating the missionary position?

Have I said anything about that ? See, you mind runs in the gutter,
eh Dolf ?

Is Internet religious abuse any more palatable to acts of pedophilia
for you?

Living in the gutter again, Dolf ?

What hate ?

The systematic detestment shown towards a group of people, in this
case those who are attracted to members of their own gender.

Religion has nothing to do with disgust for
homosexuals or pedophiles.

The pretension-MALAKOS as onomantick basis to Pythagorean and Egyptian
marriage mysticism as BINARY apparatus and Christian identity as
ARSENOKOITE is set in contrast to the TERNARY nature of the CHINESE
perspective of this same cosmology. There is a logical mantric and
manic contention between Pythagoras' BINARY apparatus of number as
HETEROS-MARRIAGE mysticism and the Chinese use of the 64 equilibrium
elements of the Changes as functionally an equivalent BINARY
apparatus. As to God's syllogistic definition of piety-monogenes
Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
[Genesis 2:24]
Abomination before God: "If a man lie down with men as he lieth with
women" [Leviticus 18:22], "and women with women as with men." [Romans 2:26]
Involving a kind of logical argument in which one proposition as the
conclusion or Telos [#2187 = 37 or 'oth cycle: #2184 / #6000 =
122J3W1D] is inferred from two others [the major premise: which
contains the law of that will as 7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth
cycle] and [the minor premise: which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under
the law: x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal
Equinox Wednesday 20 March] of a certain form.
"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before
men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed
among men is abomination in the sight of God.
The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man
presseth into it."
THE BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY (AS 10 COMMANDMENTS) IS ASSOCIATED TO A
BALANCED TERNARY DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM
#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated
to the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +
#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under
x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +
#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos
has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on
{ie. 20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th
solar month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1
Tishri 5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the
[21st priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes
steadfast} on the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th
solar month." [4Q321]] +
#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature =
-1, 1: 1} + #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0,
2: 1}}
vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}
ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of
Number (Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) -
phoenix: 206 BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto
25 March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.
The Kabbalistic mechanistic notion presented here, is that each of the
unique 729 x 2 = 1458 (male/female) appraisals and Dynamic Natural
Associators within the systems core operate as daemons or dialectic
temporal (distinct from any chronological steeping and calendaring
orientation of them as) containers. Such origins of noumenclature
which is equally applicable to homeopathy from my view of the public
Internet discussion so far, regarding its mechanism of practice as it
is for an oncologist managing chemotherapy treatment procedures--that
these systems tend to have Kabbalistic paradigms as their semiotic
basis. The Caduceus is such a symbol, whose history of common usage,
"As god of the high-road and the market-place Hermes was perhaps above
all else the patron of commerce and the fat purse: as a corollary, he
was the special protector of the traveling salesman. As spokesman for
the gods, he not only brought peace on earth (occasionally even the
peace of death), but his silver-tongued eloquence could always make
the worse appear the better cause. From this latter point of view,
would not his symbol be suitable for certain Congressmen, all medical
quacks, book agents and purveyors of vacuum cleaners, rather than for
the straight-thinking, straight-speaking therapist? As conductor of
the dead to their subterranean abode, his emblem would seem more
appropriate on a hearse than on a physician's car." [ref: Wikipedia
2009:Confusion with the Caduceus]
Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are
(only) one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present
His laws through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but
(rather) a mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number
of them. As such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that
His choice of the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just
one of an infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have
opted for. For, not only are the laws of nature one of His
"inventions", but the very fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process,
function, components, properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that
wasn’t at all mandatory! [(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da
at Tevunot -- The Knowing Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]
We can think of the mechanistic and deterministic sinful nature
against the autonomic process of right to life in which human beings
routinely engage, as functionally equivalent to the lint filter within
a clothes dryer. And to illustrate this by drawing your attention to
the remarkable attributed correspondence which these have to the
character of the Gospel narratives, I have recently added the meta
descriptors for those Categories of Understanding which don't have a
var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {},
258: {}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {},
422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {},
{}, 584: {}
}
There is then an ability for us to look at each of the dialectic
containers or daemon in which this notional manifest of 'sin' occurs
by using the vCube.html document with the ?telos:422 and
?zen:7,nous:65 search options.
Considering then, the Natural and Common Law precedent for regarding
these META_NONTEMPORAL {} deterministic Categories of Understanding as
operating within an economic capacity as function {ie. The emergence
and articulation of a temporal, knowledge management paradigm as
pivotal upon the events of: 11 September 2001 + 'OTH Cycle (#2184
days) + #500 = 16 January 2009} under the Sovereign State, is an
equivalency to our earlier discussion of meta descriptor [#174 / #209
- Good or #174 / #142 - Bad] inclination and moral dichotomy
associated with the allotment of Crown Land title--deeds [#209 - #8
#200 #1 = To ease the bowels; excrements, dung] under the colonies as
nomarchy in 1852 and the liabilities of Section IX [#142 - #40, #6,
#90, #1, #5 = Out-goings, descents or lineages; privies or sewers] in
the Letters Patent of 1900 to the Australian Commonwealth of 1901, it
may well be a case of the Lieutenant Governor exercising the natural,
regulative and metempirical principles of good governance as ‘certain
powers, functions, and authorities’ declared to be vested within ‘the
office of Governor General and Commander in chief over Our said
Commonwealth of Australia’.
As teleological circumscribing the Letters Patent associated to a
‘private’ status of a carriageway adjoining the North Melbourne
exchange the acrostic ethical overlay for the ‘OTH CYCLE, and of a 27
/ #26 - Ambiguous Reversals/ Virtue of Gravity; I-Ching: H3 - Initial
Difficulties; Tetra: 3 - Mired, Ego: #232 / #63 - Origins in Reversal/
Consider Beginnings; I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap; Tetra: 62 - Doubt]
requirement for the attendance of the ambulance service at St Andrews
Street, North Melbourne—due to breaches of building security and
trans-substantive adverse reactions to Telstra’s construction in
August 1999.
The Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon, is after all, a transexperiental and
transpersonal object onto which time stamped phenomenon is referred,
as to the basis or cause of its sense content. And as a heuristic {ie.
a method of solving problems for one which no algorithm is considered
to exist and which therefore depends on inductive reasoning from past
experience of similar problems} attributed to a chronological (24 hr
day / topical year / Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2)])
hermeneutical overlay as behavioral 'a priori', it may be considered
in and of itself a jurisprudent determination as to the integrity of
statements and whether, as the measure of their categorical nature,
are compliant with the natural, regulative free-will and metempirical
principles of our legislation as jurisprudent framework and
accordingly our human, religious and Australian Constitutional rights.
"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass [1 John 5:7], than one
tittle of the law to fail Whosoever putteth away his wife, and
marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that
is put away from her husband committeth adultery.'" [Luke 16:13-18 (KJV)]

II Chronicles 19:1,2

Ooooh...*that* was harsh! ;-)

It was idiotic.
Nice try.

Why do the intolerant make such a big deal over homosexuality when
everyone lives in sin - all the time?

I don't...

Rod

2009-05-19 02:41:44 UTC

Post by dolf
I have 12 years remaining of an employment contract with respects to
inclusion of a marriage clause and an AIDS exclusion clause upon
cessation or change of employment which the Insurer AXA Group Insurance
has heretofore been unaccountable and brutal (depriving me of my housing
investment and dwindling my superannuation entitlement through sales tax
on property transactions) in their conduct with respect to the
administration of this contract undertaken with an American company.
That such conduct and yours amounts to religious values based
persecution under the Commonwealth for which I intend to take all
necessary action within a court of law to have such defamatory conduct
by as yours against my character, personality and reputation curtailed.
- dolf

OMG, you're stupid enough to try and sue me ? BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Go ahead, throw your money away, you disease ridden AIDS faggot !

dolf

2009-05-18 23:10:23 UTC

I have 12 years remaining of an employment contract with respects to
inclusion of a marriage clause and an AIDS exclusion clause upon
cessation or change of employment which the Insurer AXA Group Insurance
has heretofore been unaccountable and brutal (depriving me of my housing
investment and dwindling my superannuation entitlement through sales tax
on property transactions) in their conduct with respect to the
administration of this contract undertaken with an American company.

That such conduct and yours amounts to religious values based
persecution under the Commonwealth for which I intend to take all
necessary action within a court of law to have such defamatory conduct
as yours against my character, personality and reputation curtailed.

You are going to know what it is like to have no forgiveness for your
sin and being an animal--deprived of soul.

- dolf

Heterosexuals promulgating the missionary position?

Have I said anything about that ? See, you mind runs in the gutter,
eh Dolf ?

Is Internet religious abuse any more palatable to acts of pedophilia
for you?

Living in the gutter again, Dolf ?

What hate ?

The systematic detestment shown towards a group of people, in this
case those who are attracted to members of their own gender.

Religion has nothing to do with disgust for
homosexuals or pedophiles.

The pretension-MALAKOS as onomantick basis to Pythagorean and Egyptian
marriage mysticism as BINARY apparatus and Christian identity as
ARSENOKOITE is set in contrast to the TERNARY nature of the CHINESE
perspective of this same cosmology. There is a logical mantric and
manic contention between Pythagoras' BINARY apparatus of number as
HETEROS-MARRIAGE mysticism and the Chinese use of the 64 equilibrium
elements of the Changes as functionally an equivalent BINARY
apparatus. As to God's syllogistic definition of piety-monogenes
Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
[Genesis 2:24]
Abomination before God: "If a man lie down with men as he lieth with
women" [Leviticus 18:22], "and women with women as with men." [Romans 2:26]
Involving a kind of logical argument in which one proposition as the
conclusion or Telos [#2187 = 37 or 'oth cycle: #2184 / #6000 =
122J3W1D] is inferred from two others [the major premise: which
contains the law of that will as 7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth
cycle] and [the minor premise: which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under
the law: x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal
Equinox Wednesday 20 March] of a certain form.
"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before
men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed
among men is abomination in the sight of God.
The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man
presseth into it."
THE BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY (AS 10 COMMANDMENTS) IS ASSOCIATED TO A
BALANCED TERNARY DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM
#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated
to the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +
#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under
x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +
#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos
has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on
{ie. 20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th
solar month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1
Tishri 5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the
[21st priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes
steadfast} on the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th
solar month." [4Q321]] +
#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature =
-1, 1: 1} + #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0,
2: 1}}
vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}
ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of
Number (Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) -
phoenix: 206 BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto
25 March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.
The Kabbalistic mechanistic notion presented here, is that each of the
unique 729 x 2 = 1458 (male/female) appraisals and Dynamic Natural
Associators within the systems core operate as daemons or dialectic
temporal (distinct from any chronological steeping and calendaring
orientation of them as) containers. Such origins of noumenclature
which is equally applicable to homeopathy from my view of the public
Internet discussion so far, regarding its mechanism of practice as it
is for an oncologist managing chemotherapy treatment procedures--that
these systems tend to have Kabbalistic paradigms as their semiotic
basis. The Caduceus is such a symbol, whose history of common usage,
"As god of the high-road and the market-place Hermes was perhaps above
all else the patron of commerce and the fat purse: as a corollary, he
was the special protector of the traveling salesman. As spokesman for
the gods, he not only brought peace on earth (occasionally even the
peace of death), but his silver-tongued eloquence could always make
the worse appear the better cause. From this latter point of view,
would not his symbol be suitable for certain Congressmen, all medical
quacks, book agents and purveyors of vacuum cleaners, rather than for
the straight-thinking, straight-speaking therapist? As conductor of
the dead to their subterranean abode, his emblem would seem more
appropriate on a hearse than on a physician's car." [ref: Wikipedia
2009:Confusion with the Caduceus]
Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are
(only) one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present
His laws through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but
(rather) a mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number
of them. As such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that
His choice of the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just
one of an infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have
opted for. For, not only are the laws of nature one of His
"inventions", but the very fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process,
function, components, properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that
wasn’t at all mandatory! [(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da
at Tevunot -- The Knowing Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]
We can think of the mechanistic and deterministic sinful nature
against the autonomic process of right to life in which human beings
routinely engage, as functionally equivalent to the lint filter within
a clothes dryer. And to illustrate this by drawing your attention to
the remarkable attributed correspondence which these have to the
character of the Gospel narratives, I have recently added the meta
descriptors for those Categories of Understanding which don't have a
var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {},
258: {}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {},
422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {},
{}, 584: {}
}
There is then an ability for us to look at each of the dialectic
containers or daemon in which this notional manifest of 'sin' occurs
by using the vCube.html document with the ?telos:422 and
?zen:7,nous:65 search options.
Considering then, the Natural and Common Law precedent for regarding
these META_NONTEMPORAL {} deterministic Categories of Understanding as
operating within an economic capacity as function {ie. The emergence
and articulation of a temporal, knowledge management paradigm as
pivotal upon the events of: 11 September 2001 + 'OTH Cycle (#2184
days) + #500 = 16 January 2009} under the Sovereign State, is an
equivalency to our earlier discussion of meta descriptor [#174 / #209
- Good or #174 / #142 - Bad] inclination and moral dichotomy
associated with the allotment of Crown Land title--deeds [#209 - #8
#200 #1 = To ease the bowels; excrements, dung] under the colonies as
nomarchy in 1852 and the liabilities of Section IX [#142 - #40, #6,
#90, #1, #5 = Out-goings, descents or lineages; privies or sewers] in
the Letters Patent of 1900 to the Australian Commonwealth of 1901, it
may well be a case of the Lieutenant Governor exercising the natural,
regulative and metempirical principles of good governance as ‘certain
powers, functions, and authorities’ declared to be vested within ‘the
office of Governor General and Commander in chief over Our said
Commonwealth of Australia’.
As teleological circumscribing the Letters Patent associated to a
‘private’ status of a carriageway adjoining the North Melbourne
exchange the acrostic ethical overlay for the ‘OTH CYCLE, and of a 27
/ #26 - Ambiguous Reversals/ Virtue of Gravity; I-Ching: H3 - Initial
Difficulties; Tetra: 3 - Mired, Ego: #232 / #63 - Origins in Reversal/
Consider Beginnings; I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap; Tetra: 62 - Doubt]
requirement for the attendance of the ambulance service at St Andrews
Street, North Melbourne—due to breaches of building security and
trans-substantive adverse reactions to Telstra’s construction in
August 1999.
The Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon, is after all, a transexperiental and
transpersonal object onto which time stamped phenomenon is referred,
as to the basis or cause of its sense content. And as a heuristic {ie.
a method of solving problems for one which no algorithm is considered
to exist and which therefore depends on inductive reasoning from past
experience of similar problems} attributed to a chronological (24 hr
day / topical year / Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2)])
hermeneutical overlay as behavioral 'a priori', it may be considered
in and of itself a jurisprudent determination as to the integrity of
statements and whether, as the measure of their categorical nature,
are compliant with the natural, regulative free-will and metempirical
principles of our legislation as jurisprudent framework and
accordingly our human, religious and Australian Constitutional rights.
"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass [1 John 5:7], than one
tittle of the law to fail Whosoever putteth away his wife, and
marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that
is put away from her husband committeth adultery.'" [Luke 16:13-18 (KJV)]

II Chronicles 19:1,2

Ooooh...*that* was harsh! ;-)

It was idiotic.
Nice try.

Why do the intolerant make such a big deal over homosexuality when
everyone lives in sin - all the time?

I don't...

dolf

2009-05-18 23:23:20 UTC

Heterosexuals promulgating the missionary position?

Have I said anything about that ? See, you mind runs in the gutter,
eh Dolf ?

Is Internet religious abuse any more palatable to acts of pedophilia
for you?

Living in the gutter again, Dolf ?

What hate ?

The systematic detestment shown towards a group of people, in this
case those who are attracted to members of their own gender.

Religion has nothing to do with disgust for
homosexuals or pedophiles.

The pretension-MALAKOS as onomantick basis to Pythagorean and Egyptian
marriage mysticism as BINARY apparatus and Christian identity as
ARSENOKOITE is set in contrast to the TERNARY nature of the CHINESE
perspective of this same cosmology. There is a logical mantric and
manic contention between Pythagoras' BINARY apparatus of number as
HETEROS-MARRIAGE mysticism and the Chinese use of the 64 equilibrium
elements of the Changes as functionally an equivalent BINARY
apparatus. As to God's syllogistic definition of piety-monogenes
Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his
mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."
[Genesis 2:24]
Abomination before God: "If a man lie down with men as he lieth with
women" [Leviticus 18:22], "and women with women as with men." [Romans 2:26]
Involving a kind of logical argument in which one proposition as the
conclusion or Telos [#2187 = 37 or 'oth cycle: #2184 / #6000 =
122J3W1D] is inferred from two others [the major premise: which
contains the law of that will as 7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth
cycle] and [the minor premise: which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under
the law: x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal
Equinox Wednesday 20 March] of a certain form.
"And he said unto them, Ye are they which justify yourselves before
men; but God knoweth your hearts: for that which is highly esteemed
among men is abomination in the sight of God.
The law and the prophets were until John {the grace or mercy of the
Lord}: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man
presseth into it."
THE BIBLICAL COSMOLOGY (AS 10 COMMANDMENTS) IS ASSOCIATED TO A
BALANCED TERNARY DISTRIBUTED SYSTEM
#1 = [the major premise {YANG/FATHER/HEAVEN/MALE/FORM - Formula of
7 x 24 x 13 = 2184 days of the 'oth cycle = 6D or 6 x 364 associated
to the 'constant sequence of sun and moon' as 354 x 3 + 30 day
intercalation = 1092 days x 2 = 2184 days] +
#2 = [the minor premise {YIN/MOTHER/EARTH/FEMALE/MATTER - Formula of
Humanity - HEAD OF STATE}, which contains the command to behave in
accordance with the law, that is, the principle of subsumption under
x 49 = 6J or 294 x 364 days or 365.2425 x 293 years - Vernal Equinox
Wednesday 20 March 1996 / 21 March = 1 Nisan 5756; and] +
#3 = [the conclusion {ZHUN/SON/SEA/ENUMERATE/OFFSPRING - Formula of
Autonomy}, which contains the verdict (sentence), that is laid down as
right in the case at hand: ... 6,000 topical years as Telos
has #369 with Septet #41 {ie. #81 - #27 - #9 - #3 - #1} centric on
{ie. 20 March 1996 + (5*364) + 182 = 12 Sept 2001 as 1st day of 7th
solar month = #0 - Zero point} 13-17 September 2001 / 18 September = 1
Tishri 5762. ref: "On [Sunday 16 September as] the 1st day of the
[21st priestly] course of Jachin {he that strengthens and makes
steadfast} on the 29th day of lunar month, on the 5th day of the 7th
solar month." [4Q321]] +
#4 = 'OTH Chronological Elements = #10 as {Totality of Nature =
-1, 1: 1} + #3 = {0: 0, 1: 1} + #4 = {0: 1, 1: 1} = #10 = {0: 1, 1: 0,
2: 1}}
vCube Balanced Ternary System distribution: #1 = {0: 1}; #41 = {0: -1,
1: -1, 2: -1, 3: -1, 4: 1}; #81 = (0: 0, 1: 0, 2:0, 3:0, 4:1}
ONE: 1, 2, 3
TWO: 0, 3, 6
THREE: 0, 9, 18
FOUR: 0, 27, 54 = Chinese Tetragramation (Yang, Yin, Zhun) of
Number (Imperial Governance of male - dragon, female (consort) -
phoenix: 206 BCE to 220 CE published 2 BCE); cf: [Deuteronomy 4:1-20]
FIVE: 0, 81, 369 = 9(9²+1)/2 - Organisation of the Myriad of things
SIX: 0, 243, 729 = Appraisals within vCube (9 x 9 x 9)
SEVEN: 0, 729, 2187 = 17 March (Saint Patrick's Day and ipso facto
25 March) + 2 x 'OTH CYCLE of 1092 (6 x 364 = 6D) days as Genesis and
substantiation of Christian identity.
The Kabbalistic mechanistic notion presented here, is that each of the
unique 729 x 2 = 1458 (male/female) appraisals and Dynamic Natural
Associators within the systems core operate as daemons or dialectic
temporal (distinct from any chronological steeping and calendaring
orientation of them as) containers. Such origins of noumenclature
which is equally applicable to homeopathy from my view of the public
Internet discussion so far, regarding its mechanism of practice as it
is for an oncologist managing chemotherapy treatment procedures--that
these systems tend to have Kabbalistic paradigms as their semiotic
basis. The Caduceus is such a symbol, whose history of common usage,
"As god of the high-road and the market-place Hermes was perhaps above
all else the patron of commerce and the fat purse: as a corollary, he
was the special protector of the traveling salesman. As spokesman for
the gods, he not only brought peace on earth (occasionally even the
peace of death), but his silver-tongued eloquence could always make
the worse appear the better cause. From this latter point of view,
would not his symbol be suitable for certain Congressmen, all medical
quacks, book agents and purveyors of vacuum cleaners, rather than for
the straight-thinking, straight-speaking therapist? As conductor of
the dead to their subterranean abode, his emblem would seem more
appropriate on a hearse than on a physician's car." [ref: Wikipedia
2009:Confusion with the Caduceus]
Rabbi Jaakov Feldman (Project Genesis) comments that even the Kabbalah
sephirot -- the very building blocks of all cosmic reality, “are
(only) one of the mechanisms that the Supreme Will wanted to present
His laws through”, that their use is "not intrinsic to Him, but
(rather) a mechanism that He willfully chose" among an infinite number
of them. As such, nothing is other than as He wills it to be and that
His choice of the makeup of the cosmos was also on purpose and is just
one of an infinite number of possible cosmic makeups He might have
opted for. For, not only are the laws of nature one of His
"inventions", but the very fact that there’d be "nature” (ie. process,
function, components, properties, etc.) at all is an idea of His that
wasn’t at all mandatory! [(c) 2009 Rabbi Jaakov Feldman, Ramchal: Da
at Tevunot -- The Knowing Heart Section 1, Chapter 18]
We can think of the mechanistic and deterministic sinful nature
against the autonomic process of right to life in which human beings
routinely engage, as functionally equivalent to the lint filter within
a clothes dryer. And to illustrate this by drawing your attention to
the remarkable attributed correspondence which these have to the
character of the Gospel narratives, I have recently added the meta
descriptors for those Categories of Understanding which don't have a
var META_NONTEMPORAL = {
72: {},
148: {}, 184: {}, 196: {},
205: {}, 208: {}, 209: {}, 212: {}, 221: {}, 225: {}, 227: {},
258: {}, 267: {},
305: {}, 344: {},
422: {}, 442: {}, 463: {}, 464: {}, 487: {},
501: {}, 508: {}, 510: {}, 515: {}, 519: {}, 525: {}, 530: {},
{}, 584: {}
}
There is then an ability for us to look at each of the dialectic
containers or daemon in which this notional manifest of 'sin' occurs
by using the vCube.html document with the ?telos:422 and
?zen:7,nous:65 search options.
Considering then, the Natural and Common Law precedent for regarding
these META_NONTEMPORAL {} deterministic Categories of Understanding as
operating within an economic capacity as function {ie. The emergence
and articulation of a temporal, knowledge management paradigm as
pivotal upon the events of: 11 September 2001 + 'OTH Cycle (#2184
days) + #500 = 16 January 2009} under the Sovereign State, is an
equivalency to our earlier discussion of meta descriptor [#174 / #209
- Good or #174 / #142 - Bad] inclination and moral dichotomy
associated with the allotment of Crown Land title--deeds [#209 - #8
#200 #1 = To ease the bowels; excrements, dung] under the colonies as
nomarchy in 1852 and the liabilities of Section IX [#142 - #40, #6,
#90, #1, #5 = Out-goings, descents or lineages; privies or sewers] in
the Letters Patent of 1900 to the Australian Commonwealth of 1901, it
may well be a case of the Lieutenant Governor exercising the natural,
regulative and metempirical principles of good governance as ‘certain
powers, functions, and authorities’ declared to be vested within ‘the
office of Governor General and Commander in chief over Our said
Commonwealth of Australia’.
As teleological circumscribing the Letters Patent associated to a
‘private’ status of a carriageway adjoining the North Melbourne
exchange the acrostic ethical overlay for the ‘OTH CYCLE, and of a 27
/ #26 - Ambiguous Reversals/ Virtue of Gravity; I-Ching: H3 - Initial
Difficulties; Tetra: 3 - Mired, Ego: #232 / #63 - Origins in Reversal/
Consider Beginnings; I-Ching: H51 - Thunderclap; Tetra: 62 - Doubt]
requirement for the attendance of the ambulance service at St Andrews
Street, North Melbourne—due to breaches of building security and
trans-substantive adverse reactions to Telstra’s construction in
August 1999.
The Grapple Homoiotic Noumenon, is after all, a transexperiental and
transpersonal object onto which time stamped phenomenon is referred,
as to the basis or cause of its sense content. And as a heuristic {ie.
a method of solving problems for one which no algorithm is considered
to exist and which therefore depends on inductive reasoning from past
experience of similar problems} attributed to a chronological (24 hr
day / topical year / Telos [122J3W1D] = Arch [3W1D] + c² [9(9²+1)/2)])
hermeneutical overlay as behavioral 'a priori', it may be considered
in and of itself a jurisprudent determination as to the integrity of
statements and whether, as the measure of their categorical nature,
are compliant with the natural, regulative free-will and metempirical
principles of our legislation as jurisprudent framework and
accordingly our human, religious and Australian Constitutional rights.
"And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass [1 John 5:7], than one
tittle of the law to fail Whosoever putteth away his wife, and
marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that
is put away from her husband committeth adultery.'" [Luke 16:13-18 (KJV)]

II Chronicles 19:1,2

Ooooh...*that* was harsh! ;-)

It was idiotic.
Nice try.

Why do the intolerant make such a big deal over homosexuality when
everyone lives in sin - all the time?

I don't...

Barry

2009-05-19 01:58:09 UTC

"dolf" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:c0kQl.11997$***@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Does your abuse make you feel better?

You need to give up hating everybody.

www.godhatesfags.com

2009-05-18 02:38:52 UTC

Post by Jani

Post by Randy Â®
On Sat, 16 May 2009 17:26:00 GMT,
In newsgroup "alt.bible",

Post by Ted L
Marriage before God: "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother,
and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. "(c.f. Genesis
2:24)
Abomination before God: if a man lie down with men as he lieth with women
(Leviticus 18:22), and women with women as with men (Romans 2:26).

Correct.

What's the price of tea in China?
If someone commits a sin that is not seen by other men, is it still a
sin?
You're an idiot.

Post by Jani
Jani

Dr. House

2009-05-18 04:21:01 UTC

On May 17, 7:38 pm, CB <***@hotmail.com> wrote:

[..]

Post by CB
What's the price of tea in China?
If someone commits a sin that is not seen by other men, is it still a
sin?
You're an idiot.

If it offends God so much why do gays even exist? Did God lack the
power to control what He created? If God doesn't like what He made
why does He blame the thing that was made?

Meanwhile sleeping with your sister, having two sisters as wives at
the same time, along with a host of other "sins" are abominations but
living in these sins didn't stop Abraham or Israel from being blessed
by God/being saved by faith - if you believe the Bible.

God bless,

House

dolf

2009-05-18 05:27:59 UTC

That she's claimed to be a Lesbian having a year-long email exchange
with Carl McCluskey who vehemently denies being a Baptist.

I expect as much from those claiming Orthodoxy, if the news reports of
the conduct by Russian Orthodoxy is anything to go by.

Your discourse here is a performance--nearly as good as that of Irish
Roman Catholic Cardinal Pell's capacity for public apology towards
impuning the rights of Protestant and Jewish Religious belief and values
being viable and healthy alternative as lifestyle choice!

- dolf

Post by <Kelly>
Hmmm...nothing in that verse about sodomy, either Ted.

Can you read ?? Deu 23:17 There shall be no whore of the

daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.