One of those bike fettling jobs you wish you had never started.

[Pete Fisher]

If it's not broke then don't fix it right?

The day started well with the arrival of a Talon 42t rear sprocket for
the YZ250. That was soon deployed, though it needed another couple of
links taking out of the chain. If it should prove too high, I can always
go down one or two on the front sprocket.

Next on the agenda was the binding front brake. So I adopted my usual
strategy of getting the caliper off, removing the (new) pads and working
the pistons out, cleaning them up then smearing with a bit of rubber
grease and then pushing them right back in - followed by several cycles
of pump out a few mm and push back in.

They were a bit sticky at first, but after a few iterations they were
both moving in and out nice and evenly. Put the caliper back on, spin
wheel, apply brake - nothing. Much, pumping of the lever failed to
produce any pressure at all. I've been meaning to change the fluid since
I put the new disc and pads on, so this now seemed essential.

At least the two horrible little cross-head screws holding the master
cylinder reservoir cap on came out easily (unlike the lad's YZ85 - but
that's another story). Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink. Poped on my
one-man brake bleeding kit and cracked open the bleed nipple on the
caliper and tried to pump the old fluid out. A feeble dribble of ancient
fluid resulted rather than an impressive squirt. I suspect some shite in
the fluid has got pushed back up in to the hole in the reservoir. A
master cylinder rebuild wasn't supposed to be on the agenda. I'll give
it a go with the existing seals (which don't look too bad) and nice new
fluid and I've ordered a new piston and seal kit, but it's looking like
I won't get to Loton on it on Sunday. Which is a tad annoying, because I
was able to ride it OK at Hartland even with a slightly binding brake.

[Andy Bonwick]

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:28:35 +0100, Pete Fisher

Post by Pete Fisher
If it's not broke then don't fix it right?

snip>

Why don't you rob the master cylinder off a different bike and change
it back when the new parts have arrived and you've rebuilt the
original one?

I've got a ZX10R master cylinder and brake lever assembly you can
borrow but you'll need to blag a reservoir from elsewhere because I
don't have a spare one.

[Pete Fisher]

Post by Andy Bonwick
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:28:35 +0100, Pete Fisher

Post by Pete Fisher
If it's not broke then don't fix it right?

snip>
Why don't you rob the master cylinder off a different bike and change
it back when the new parts have arrived and you've rebuilt the
original one?

Thought of that, and I even have a spare one that might have done the
trick, but the brake line outlet is at totally the wrong angle for the
YZ line and the banjo thread also seems different. I doubt any of the
Morini/Gilera ones would be suitable either, though at least the Morini
ones also have built in reservoirs which would help. There's always the
option of dragging the Forgotten Error out and notifying a change of
machine.

Post by Andy Bonwick
I've got a ZX10R master cylinder and brake lever assembly you can
borrow but you'll need to blag a reservoir from elsewhere because I
don't have a spare one.

Thanks for the offer, but if I'm really desperate I may rob the one off
the lad's YZ85. It's very similar, but a bit smaller, which shouldn't be
an issue for a hill climb. But to fit that I'll have to get the cap off,
and the one screw has been terminally maimed by the previous owner.
Still I suppose I could drill the head off and use one of mine.

[Wicked Uncle Nigel]

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Andy Bonwick

Post by Andy Bonwick
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:28:35 +0100, Pete Fisher

Post by Pete Fisher
If it's not broke then don't fix it right?

snip>
Why don't you rob the master cylinder off a different bike and change
it back when the new parts have arrived and you've rebuilt the
original one?
I've got a ZX10R master cylinder and brake lever assembly you can
borrow but you'll need to blag a reservoir from elsewhere because I
don't have a spare one.

*Waves*

Got an R1 one kicking around somewhere. Who knows? If I'd ever got
around to fitting it to the VMax I might not be able to tell when it's
going to rain...

[Pete Fisher]

Post by Wicked Uncle Nigel
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Andy Bonwick

Post by Andy Bonwick
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:28:35 +0100, Pete Fisher

Post by Pete Fisher
If it's not broke then don't fix it right?

snip>
Why don't you rob the master cylinder off a different bike and change
it back when the new parts have arrived and you've rebuilt the
original one?
I've got a ZX10R master cylinder and brake lever assembly you can
borrow but you'll need to blag a reservoir from elsewhere because I
don't have a spare one.

*Waves*
Got an R1 one kicking around somewhere. Who knows? If I'd ever got
around to fitting it to the VMax I might not be able to tell when it's
going to rain...

Very kind but wouldn't a cylinder designed for hyper retarding four pot
calipers rather overwhelm one smallish two pot MX job?

Anyway, I have a brake. Luckily I had recently acquired a complete spare
system (cylinder, line and caliper) off Ebay for the lad's[1] YZ85
because his had various issues, and had already swapped it. So I drilled
the head off the chewed up cap retaining screw, and pinched the master
cylinder off his original system.

I've only ever worked on SO Brembo or Grimeca systems before. I think I
prefer them to this Nissin or whatever. It took an age to get a system
full of fluid and the prospect of bleeding it. I see a Mityvac in my
future.

But it works. Annoyingly, there is still more drag then I would like,
though not binding as badly as it was. So I'll be ordering a caliper
seals kit for hopefully a full fix - perhaps I'll get to play with my
compressor. 350 Morinis were often fitted with the smaller bore 250
master cylinder, so I am hoping to get away with this one for a while.
In any case you only have to use the brakes in four places at Loton.

As to ink. When I first started at Grammar School we still had desks
with inkwells, and out first forays in to italic handwriting were with
scratchy old dip pens. Once to a reasonable standard arrangements were
made for us to purchase the school approved chunky Osmiroid fountain
pen. I kept it for years and used to sign work letters and statutory
notices with it until I lost it. These days I prefer a good fine roller
ball pen if to hand, though most of the time a Bic clone is pressed in
to service.

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

[Wicked Uncle Nigel]

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

I doubt that.

But then, biros were Strengsten Verboten at my junior school.

[Ace]

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 22:59:09 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel

Post by Wicked Uncle Nigel
Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, The Older

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

I doubt that.
But then, biros were Strengsten Verboten at my junior school.

Oddly, perhaps, they were actually issued to us at junior school, but
banned at grammar school, where fountain pens were de rigeur. There
was an ongoing battle throughout my time there against felt-tip pens,
whose results were all but indistiguishable from 'proper' pens. And
when roller balls came out they swept the field.

[Pip Luscher]

Post by Ace
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 22:59:09 +0100, Wicked Uncle Nigel

Post by Wicked Uncle Nigel
But then, biros were Strengsten Verboten at my junior school.

Oddly, perhaps, they were actually issued to us at junior school, but
banned at grammar school, where fountain pens were de rigeur. There
was an ongoing battle throughout my time there against felt-tip pens,
whose results were all but indistiguishable from 'proper' pens. And
when roller balls came out they swept the field.

Dyson ones were they?

[malc]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Nah! The average age of this NG must be in the 40s. It's still available
too.

[Dr Ivan D. Reid]

Post by malc
Nah! The average age of this NG must be in the 40s.

Thanks for downgrading me a decade or so...

[malc]

Post by Dr Ivan D. Reid

Post by malc
Nah! The average age of this NG must be in the 40s.

Thanks for downgrading me a decade or so...

I said average, you're one of the people that keeps it so high. And Auvache
of course.

[Scraggy]

Post by malc

Post by Dr Ivan D. Reid

Post by malc
Nah! The average age of this NG must be in the 40s.

Thanks for downgrading me a decade or so...

I said average, you're one of the people that keeps it so high. And
Auvache of course.

Quite so.

[geoff]

Post by malc

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Nah! The average age of this NG must be in the 40s. It's still available
too.

Yeah, surprised there isn't a creche

[s***@gonemail.com]

Post by geoff

Post by malc
Nah! The average age of this NG must be in the 40s. It's still available
too.

Yeah, surprised there isn't a creche

For the grandchildren?

[geoff]

Post by s***@gonemail.com

Post by geoff

Post by malc
Nah! The average age of this NG must be in the 40s. It's still available
too.

Yeah, surprised there isn't a creche

For the grandchildren?

Them too

[mark]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

/raises hand..
Still have a bottle....

[steve auvache]

Post by mark

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

/raises hand..
Still have a bottle....

AOL and a Parker it gets occasionally used in.

[mark]

Post by steve auvache
AOL and a Parker it gets occasionally used in.

Mine was for drawing plans on film for ozalid copying on diazo paper...
Used rotring pens mostly but sometimes you couldn't beat the effect of
ruling pen sometimes :)
Fek; things have changed....

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by steve auvache

Post by mark

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

/raises hand..
Still have a bottle....

AOL and a Parker it gets occasionally used in.

I use a proper fountain pen every day, for just about everything.

As with WUN, ball-points were banned at school for all handwriting work
and I never lost the habit of using a 'proper' pen. Plus somehow, a
really good pen makes writing more of a pleasure, in the same that any
quality tool makes a job better.

I've got a Cross Titanium, which I bought about 10 years ago, plus maybe
half a dozen parkers of varying ages and styles.

I like fountan pens, me.

[Catman]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by steve auvache

Post by mark

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

/raises hand..
Still have a bottle....

AOL and a Parker it gets occasionally used in.

I use a proper fountain pen every day, for just about everything.
As with WUN, ball-points were banned at school for all handwriting work
and I never lost the habit of using a 'proper' pen. Plus somehow, a
really good pen makes writing more of a pleasure, in the same that any
quality tool makes a job better.
I've got a Cross Titanium, which I bought about 10 years ago, plus maybe
half a dozen parkers of varying ages and styles.
I like fountan pens, me.

I do to. Much of what I had to write needed to go through duplciates, so
I bought a rollerball. I'm thinking it's about time for a matching
fountain pen, though.

[Champ]

Post by The Older Gentleman
I use a proper fountain pen every day, for just about everything.

And refuse to use ATMs.

Come and join the 21st century, sometime, why don't you?

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by Champ

Post by The Older Gentleman
I use a proper fountain pen every day, for just about everything.

And refuse to use ATMs.
Come and join the 21st century, sometime, why don't you?

<sniff>

You do not see the innate beauty of flowing cursive script on a nicely
printed cheque, do you?

[prawn]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Champ

Post by The Older Gentleman
I use a proper fountain pen every day, for just about everything.

And refuse to use ATMs.
Come and join the 21st century, sometime, why don't you?

<sniff>
You do not see the innate beauty of flowing cursive script on a nicely
printed cheque, do you?

Err... you're going to have to buy a tin foil hat after 2018, granddad
;-)

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8414341.stm>

[Champ]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Champ

Post by The Older Gentleman
I use a proper fountain pen every day, for just about everything.

And refuse to use ATMs.
Come and join the 21st century, sometime, why don't you?

<sniff>
You do not see the innate beauty of flowing cursive script on a nicely
printed cheque, do you?

When receiving one, perhaps.

When writing one - what's the point?

Anyway, I see Prawn has alerted you to their demise.

[DR]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Champ

Post by The Older Gentleman
I use a proper fountain pen every day, for just about everything.

And refuse to use ATMs.
Come and join the 21st century, sometime, why don't you?

<sniff>
You do not see the innate beauty of flowing cursive script on a nicely
printed cheque, do you?

Send me a few and I'll let you know.

[sweller]

Post by The Older Gentleman
You do not see the innate beauty of flowing cursive script on a nicely
printed cheque, do you?

No because it means going to the post office/bank to pay the fucker in.

[sweller]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by steve auvache
AOL and a Parker it gets occasionally used in.

I use a proper fountain pen every day, for just about everything.

So do I and I'm an oik in these matters. My writing looks like a spastic
spider on rohypnol.

Post by The Older Gentleman
As with WUN, ball-points were banned at school for all handwriting work
and I never lost the habit of using a 'proper' pen.

It was the same at my school and I'm younger than the pair of you.

[Eiron]

Post by mark

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

/raises hand..
Still have a bottle....

An ink used by children and common people, I believe.
I buy Waterman Encre Havane from a little shop in Burlington Arcade.

[Dan L]

Post by mark

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to
understand this allusion.

/raises hand..
Still have a bottle....

Quink always smelt a bid odd.
I preferred Stephens Ink [1]

[1] Fnarr

[Colin Irvine]

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 22:58:05 +0100, The Older Gentleman squeezed out

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

# They called the bastard Steph...

Bugger.

[wessie]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's right
cunt if you are left handed.

[Donnie]

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to
understand this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's
right cunt if you are left handed.

Bollox, only if you are one of those lefties that writes like they are
hiding their answers in an exam situation [1]

[1] or writing like a spaz

[turby]

Post by Donnie

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to
understand this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's
right cunt if you are left handed.

Bollox, only if you are one of those lefties that writes like they are
hiding their answers in an exam situation [1]

I went to Israel on a lark, had all my money stolen the 1st day and
figured I'd be there a while earning it back, so I enrolled in an
Ulpan to learn Hebrew. Holy crap, what a revelation! Being written
right-to-left, it was amazing how easy it is to write for a left-
hander. Words, no, _ideas_ leapt onto the page, instead of being
shoved, kicking and screaming. It's pretty hard to curse an entire
culture for writing the wrong way, so I'll just curse my genetic code
that made me left-handed.

Post by Donnie
[1] or writing like a spaz

Up yours.

[Donnie]

Post by turby

Post by Donnie

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to
understand this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's
right cunt if you are left handed.

Bollox, only if you are one of those lefties that writes like they
are hiding their answers in an exam situation [1]

I went to Israel on a lark, had all my money stolen the 1st day and
figured I'd be there a while earning it back, so I enrolled in an
Ulpan to learn Hebrew. Holy crap, what a revelation! Being written
right-to-left, it was amazing how easy it is to write for a left-
hander. Words, no, ideas leapt onto the page, instead of being
shoved, kicking and screaming. It's pretty hard to curse an entire
culture for writing the wrong way, so I'll just curse my genetic code
that made me left-handed.

Post by Donnie
[1] or writing like a spaz

Up yours.

heh heh

[Dan L]

Post by Donnie

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to
understand this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's
right cunt if you are left handed.

Bollox, only if you are one of those lefties that writes like they are
hiding their answers in an exam situation [1]
[1] or writing like a spaz

Didn't they give you one with a left handed nib?
My mate at school was a left-hander, his fountain pen had a nib with a
slight bend in it because of his inability to use a normal pen like a
normal person does.

[wessie]

Post by Dan L

Post by Donnie

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to
understand this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's
right cunt if you are left handed.

Bollox, only if you are one of those lefties that writes like they are
hiding their answers in an exam situation [1]
[1] or writing like a spaz

Didn't they give you one with a left handed nib?
My mate at school was a left-hander, his fountain pen had a nib with a
slight bend in it because of his inability to use a normal pen like a
normal person does.

No problem writing. It was the smudging thing that Bonwick mentions above.
All overcome by buying a nice Waterman pen rather than the cheapo cartridge
thing my mum got from Woolies. It had a nice plunger arrangement for
refilling rather than a rubber bladder. I think that a much better
regulated ink-flow was part of the secret. My original pen put too much ink
on the page leading to much smudging.

[steve auvache]

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's right
cunt if you are left handed.

"Oo don't you hold the pen oddly." I have heard it a million times but
it is the only way I can write without smudging and with the letters all
leaning the right way.[1]


[1] I was beaten for being left handed when at school because I couldn't
make the letters slope the right way. A visit from my Mum, a free and
frank exchange of views with teacher and some changes in the way I held
the pen solved that one.

[wessie]

Post by steve auvache

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's right
cunt if you are left handed.

"Oo don't you hold the pen oddly." I have heard it a million times but
it is the only way I can write without smudging and with the letters all
leaning the right way.[1]
[1] I was beaten for being left handed when at school because I couldn't
make the letters slope the right way. A visit from my Mum, a free and
frank exchange of views with teacher and some changes in the way I held
the pen solved that one.

My handwriting was appalling in the 1st & 2nd year. Then, the purchase of a
slender Waterman pen made a difference. I could hold it at a more
comfortable angle and began to write more neatly.

[steve auvache]

Post by wessie
My handwriting was appalling in the 1st & 2nd year. Then, the purchase of a
slender Waterman pen made a difference. I could hold it at a more
comfortable angle and began to write more neatly.

A ladies Parker was the solution for my rather small but perfectly
formed hands. That and the invention of the fibre tip.

[Pip Luscher]

On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 00:16:20 +0100, steve auvache

Post by steve auvache
"Oo don't you hold the pen oddly." I have heard it a million times

So you're one of thos weirdies that kind of hooks their hand round the
pen? I did wonder why on earth people did that because on the face of
it, you're more likely to smudge previous writing.

Post by steve auvache
but
it is the only way I can write without smudging and with the letters all
leaning the right way.

Oh, so it doesn't smudge.

[steve auvache]

Post by Pip Luscher
On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 00:16:20 +0100, steve auvache

Post by steve auvache
"Oo don't you hold the pen oddly." I have heard it a million times

So you're one of thos weirdies that kind of hooks their hand round the
pen?

Weirdo? Moi? Ho yuss.

Post by Pip Luscher
I did wonder why on earth people did that because on the face of
it, you're more likely to smudge previous writing.

Post by steve auvache
but
it is the only way I can write without smudging and with the letters all
leaning the right way.

Oh, so it doesn't smudge.

Yes, you need to keep your hand a line or three above what you have just
written to allow time for the ink to dry as you work your way down the
page. Also to actually see what you have just written, a problem that
right handers simply do not have.

[sweller]

Post by Pip Luscher

Post by steve auvache
"Oo don't you hold the pen oddly." I have heard it a million times

So you're one of thos weirdies that kind of hooks their hand round the
pen? I did wonder why on earth people did that because on the face of
it, you're more likely to smudge previous writing.

There are a lot more of us than you think - and I manage it without
smudging.

[Mungo "Two Sheds" Toadfoot]

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's right
cunt if you are left handed.

*Waves left hand*

I never found it a problem to write like the right-handed wierdos though,
even with a nink pen.

Si

[Andy Bonwick]

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 23:08:05 +0000 (UTC), wessie

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's right
cunt if you are left handed.

Ha, so you ended up with smudged writing and your left hand covered in
ink?

It's no wonder the headmistress at my old primary school used to hit
me on the head whenever I wrote with my left hand, I thought she was
being a bitch but she was actually trying to save me from further
misery.

[Catman]

Post by Andy Bonwick
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 23:08:05 +0000 (UTC), wessie

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's right
cunt if you are left handed.

Ha, so you ended up with smudged writing and your left hand covered in
ink?
It's no wonder the headmistress at my old primary school used to hit
me on the head whenever I wrote with my left hand, I thought she was
being a bitch but she was actually trying to save me from further
misery.

Oddly, my father manages to be left handed, use a fountain pen and
neither smudge, nor cover his hand in ink.

[sweller]

Post by Andy Bonwick
It's no wonder the headmistress at my old primary school used to hit
me on the head whenever I wrote with my left hand, I thought she was
being a bitch but she was actually trying to save me from further
misery.

I was made to write right handed too - I've ended up a bit fucked up in
the handed department. I eat the "wrong way round", use tools in a
whatever hand is nearest way and can do most things competently
ambidextrously.

...but (legible) writing is now right handed only.

[geoff]

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's right
cunt if you are left handed.

Same here - I feel your pain bro'

not kack handed though

[Snowleopard]

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 23:08:05 +0000 (UTC), wessie

Post by wessie

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Rubbish. I was forced to use a fountain pen at public school. It's right
cunt if you are left handed.

They tried to make me use one but I kept breaking the nibs so they
stopped. Left handed fountain pens were ridiculous.

[DR]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Even I know that one.

[Fr Jack]

Post by DR

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Even I know that one.

Me too... and it also tastes awful!

[petrolcan]

In article <1jgal30.18o6avmg60qb4N%***@yahoo.co.uk>, The
Older Gentleman says...

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

Nope, and I'm *much* younger than you.

[Andy Bonwick]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

I doubt it.

[sweller]

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

I still used ink at school (and do now) - and Jess did too (cartridges
though) and she's only recently left.

I notice Quink no longer claims it cleans the pen as it writes.

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by sweller

Post by The Older Gentleman

Post by Pete Fisher
Oh, fuck, the fluid was like Quink.

I have a horrible feeling that I'm one of the few people to understand
this allusion.

I still used ink at school (and do now) - and Jess did too (cartridges
though) and she's only recently left.
I notice Quink no longer claims it cleans the pen as it writes.

Thanks to the magic ingredient, Solv-X. Yes, I recall that slogan, too.
You used to be able to get it in red, blue, black and even green.

I think just red and blue these days.

<Googles>

Being discontinued for the US, it seems, as well as Quink Red. I suppose
nobody uses it for colouring in the maps any more. Shame.

Still available in cartrdges, it seems, but no real gentleman uses a
cartridge pen anyway.

[sweller]

Post by The Older Gentleman
think just red and blue these days.

I use Blue Black - readily available in Smiths.

[The Older Gentleman]

Post by sweller

Post by The Older Gentleman
think just red and blue these days.

I use Blue Black - readily available in Smiths.

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that one.

[Pip Luscher]

On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:28:35 +0100, Pete Fisher

Post by Pete Fisher
If it's not broke then don't fix it right?

Tell me about it.

I've just spent half a morning wrestling with two seized screws to get
the alloy console telltale lamp cover off my V11 Sport. The problem
was that half the paint had flaked off, so, in a fit of
over-enthusiasm, I decided to take it off and make a reasonable job of
repainting it rather than just slapping paint on in situ.

Three stainless screws retain it - how hard can it be? Well, very as
it happens, because two of the screws were rather more fondly attached
to the brass bushes they screw into than the bushes were to the
tell-tale lamp cluster plastic.

In order to get at the bushes I had to remove the clocks. One bolt
sheared off the moment I tried turning it. It's just a threaded
pillar, so fixable with some extra work.

Unfortunately, when removing the speedo, I forgot to remove the trip
reset knob, didn't I?

So that's another 'fixable with a bit of extra work' job.

Gah. Hamfisted cunts 'R' us.