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Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
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George Dance
2010-12-21 18:19:34 UTC
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Betty's 14 Days of Christmas

A holiday poem a day on The Betty Blog, Dec. 17-30:

http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas

21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman

20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page

19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley

18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson

17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Will Dockery
2010-12-21 19:27:12 UTC
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Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Good old Betty..!

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George Dance
2010-12-21 22:11:41 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Good old Betty..!
Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
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ggamble
2010-12-21 22:17:55 UTC
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Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
Who the fuck asked you?
George Dance
2010-12-21 22:23:56 UTC
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Post by ggamble
Who the fuck asked you?
Hey, it's my thread, troll. Go fuck off to your own.
Cythera
2010-12-22 19:55:39 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Post by ggamble
Who the fuck asked you?
Hey, it's my thread
Well, yours and Dreckery's. Thank you both for allowing educated
people to use it.
George Dance
2010-12-22 20:07:02 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Hey, it's my thread
Thank you
for allowing educated
people to use it.
No problem. If you run into an educated person, feel free to send him
or her over.
Will Dockery
2010-12-24 03:01:22 UTC
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Post by Cythera
Earlier you stated that most of my poetry is based on that of others.
I can only go by what I've *seen* of course, but, yes, most of the
poetry you've posted here has been non-original reworks of other
people's ideas.

I don't have psychic abilities to see what isn't there like you claim
to have, Cythera, so I can only go by what I've seen.
Post by Cythera
Let's see the link.
Sure, here's the link & the actual poem:



Corning Town

I'm out walking again,
ignoring the pain.
Living like a poor boy again,
streets and sheets of rain.

In the early twilight,
dewdrops on the glass.
Her lazy hazy sway,
through Midsummer past.

She's still there,
in her underwear.
But my mem'ry and I
can't make contact again.

Where ever you've been or
what you're doing while you're there.
I just can't concern myself,
or pretend I care.

Under a jinx,
black cloud of Charlie Brown.
Sometimes I'm up,
most times I'm back down.

Deep river monkey
anyway you look at it.
Just too concerned,
to let her go.

Looking through a mirror
somewhere in Shadowville.
Pocket full of quarters,
payphone is my thrill.

Knocking the Union,
seen serpents fall.
Out in the distance,
among the croaking frogs.

Deep river monkey,
across the divide.
This is the year,
we shall be blamed.

Fair thee well my butterfly,
I'm bound for Corning Town.
Let me watch your eyes smile,
for a minute or two.

That's not me,
I'm not on YouTube no more.
Some other Touchdown Jesus,
is breaking her heart.

Bon voyage, my Bluebird Girl,
I'll hit the road a while.
Up to Russell County,
with the little red fox.

Mist in the snow,
mist in the snow.
Missed her I know,
on these shaky streets.

I'm out walking again,
ignoring the pain.
Living like a poor boy,
streets and sheets of rain.

In the early twilight,
dewdrops on the glass.
Her lazy hazy sway,
through a sweet summer past.

-Will Dockery
Will Dockery
2010-12-24 09:39:46 UTC
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"Cythera, from what I've seen, most of the poetry that you've posted
here you've based on Morpheal, Rainshadow, Hearn... me. "
Link to four of those poems total.
No, Cythera, now it's my turn to ask you a couple of questions.

How many poems have you posted here over, say, the last year? Out of
those, how many were original poems not based on poetry by Morpheal,
Rainshadow, Hearn or me?

More than four? Less than four?

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Cythera
2010-12-24 11:29:55 UTC
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Post by Cythera
"Cythera, from what I've seen, most of the poetry that you've posted
here you've based on Morpheal, Rainshadow, Hearn... me. "
Link to four of those poems total.
No, Cythera, now it's my turn to ask you a couple of questions.
You're too late.
"... I'm saying that most of your poetry is based on the poetry of
others ...."
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/e8239665548d4418?dmode=source
Post by Will Dockery
How many poems have you posted here over, say, the last year? Out of
those, how many were original poems not based on poetry by Morpheal,
Rainshadow, Hearn or me?
More than four? Less than four?
Here's a hanky to wipe the egg off your face.
Will Dockery
2010-12-24 12:55:45 UTC
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"Cythera, from what I've seen, most of the poetry that you've posted
here you've based on Morpheal, Rainshadow, Hearn... me. "
Link to four of those poems total.
No, Cythera, now it's my turn to ask you a couple of questions.
You're too late.
No, Cythera, you don't make the rules here, and so this is just
getting started.

I answered your question:

"Cythera, from what I've seen, most of the poetry that you've posted
here you've based on Morpheal, Rainshadow, Hearn... me."

Now, answer my question:

How many poems have you posted here over, say, the last year? Out of
those, how many were original poems not based on poetry by Morpheal,
Rainshadow, Hearn or me?
More than four? Less than four?

After you answer that, then you can ask me another question.

Then, I have another question for you... since you pretend to be a
mind reader you no doubt already think you know what that is, don't
you, Cythera?

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Cythera
2010-12-24 18:09:14 UTC
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Post by Cythera
"Cythera, from what I've seen, most of the poetry that you've posted
here you've based on Morpheal, Rainshadow, Hearn... me. "
Link to four of those poems total.
No, Cythera, now it's my turn to ask you a couple of questions.
You're too late.
No, Cythera, you don't make the rules here, and so this is just
getting started.
 "Cythera, from what I've seen, most of the poetry that you've posted
here you've based on Morpheal, Rainshadow, Hearn... me."
How many poems have you posted here over, say, the last year? Out of
those, how many were original poems not based on poetry by Morpheal,
Rainshadow, Hearn or me?
More than four? Less than four?
After you answer that, then you can ask me another question.
No, Drunkery. You've painted yourself into a corner. Post whatever you
want. I really don't care what a person who behaves like you have
tells people about me.
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Then, I have another question for you... since you pretend to be a
mind reader you no doubt already think you know what that is, don't
you, Cythera?
Will Dockery
2010-12-24 19:53:21 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
 "Cythera, from what I've seen, most of the poetry that you've posted
here you've based on Morpheal, Rainshadow, Hearn... me."
How many poems have you posted here over, say, the last year? Out of
those, how many were original poems not based on poetry by Morpheal,
Rainshadow, Hearn or me?
More than four? Less than four?
After you answer that, then you can ask me another question.
No,
I didn't think you would, after you understand the direction this was
going in Cythera.
Post by Cythera
Drunkery.
About this recent choice to lower your level to name-callng, Cythera,
I'll remind you of my statements on that from yesterday:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/da8efba54159d9c3
Post by Cythera
Post by Will Dockery
Should I think up some nasty names for you to respond to this new smear
tactic of yours in kind, Cythera?
Aren't you happy with the ones your online friends use?
I'm not really "happy" about any of the name calling, but the fact is
your "friends" began the trend, Cythera.

You've probably forgotten when they called you similar names when you
weren't on their side of the fence. Here's one that's surfaced, which
even includes a rare poem by Barbara's Cat... written to you!

http://www.n-n-a.com/recreational/post-552668.html
Post by Cythera
I really don't care
That's fine, then, Cythera... and since you "don't care", I expect you
won't be continuing to post the smears & misrepresentations about me
that you have been lately, either? Either way, just understand that if
you post them, I'll simply come later and correct them, and also note
that you're spreading them.
Post by Cythera
Post by Will Dockery
Then, I have another question for you... since you pretend to be a
mind reader you no doubt already think you know what that is, don't
you, Cythera?
Hmmm... maybe you did, after all.

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Will Dockery
2011-01-01 11:07:17 UTC
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<snip>
Post by Will Dockery
Don't forget Mr. Lafcadio Hearn's contribution... who used the same idea as
you and Rain Shadow over 100 years ago.
archived.
Well, that fact was archived here a year ago, Cythera:

http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/1386312/fuji-san_george_dance/10

Lafcadio Hearn had the idea that Fuji looked like a straw hat in
1898.

"They supplied me with a pilgrim-staff, heavy blue tabi (that is to
say, cleft-stockings, to used with sandals), a straw hat shaped like
Fuji, and the rest of a pilgrim's outfit;--telling me to be ready to
start with them at four o'clock in the morning."

http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/lh/fuji.html

"...'Nuff said." -Rik Roots

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Will Dockery
2010-12-31 22:14:38 UTC
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Cythera said:

<snip for focus>
So, when you borrow poery from Morpheal, Rainshadow et al, yousometimes
think up your own title for it, Cythera?
Post by Cythera
then say I stole
"Borrow" is a nicer word, don't you think, Cythera? That's what Michael Cook
called it when he did what you did.
Post by Cythera
the poem from rain_shadow
http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/lh/fuji.html

Don't forget Mr. Lafcadio Hearn's contribution... who used the same idea as
you and Rain Shadow over 100 years ago.

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Cythera
2010-12-31 22:21:21 UTC
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<snip>
Post by Will Dockery
Don't forget Mr. Lafcadio Hearn's contribution... who used the same idea as
you and Rain Shadow over 100 years ago.
She wrote about Mt. Fuji, eh?
Piss off, dockery.
Cythera
2011-01-01 05:08:04 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Don't forget Mr. Lafcadio Hearn's contribution... who used the same idea as
you and Rain Shadow over 100 years ago.
archived.
Will Dockery
2010-12-22 16:22:34 UTC
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Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
Who the fuck asked you?
Wow, you seem more bitter and angry than ever this morning, Gary...
regretting the 'Nam again?

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Cythera
2010-12-22 18:05:58 UTC
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Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
Who the fuck asked you?
Wow, you seem more bitter and angry than ever this morning, Gary...
regretting the 'Nam again?
He wrote that yesterday afternoon when you were blacked out.
Peter J Ross
2010-12-22 19:40:39 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 08:22:34 -0800 (PST),
Post by Will Dockery
more bitter and angry than ever this morning
Will Dockery
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PJR :-)
Cythera
2010-12-22 18:02:50 UTC
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Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Good old Betty..!
Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
Betty has a stolen hat.
Peter J Ross
2010-12-22 19:52:33 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:02:50 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Good old Betty..!
Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
Betty has a stolen hat.
now Batty has two hats
neither of them stolen
a red hat that is good
and a stripy hat that's new
but let it not be said
that the red hat is old
or the stripy hat is bad
both are good and in fashion

his striped hat is blue
for Dunce's misery and green
for Dunce's envy and bile
not even I hear Batty speak
but perhaps he says
fuck off Dunce and die
--
PJR :-)
Cythera
2010-12-23 03:32:41 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:02:50 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Good old Betty..!
Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
Betty has a stolen hat.
now Batty has two hats
neither of them stolen
a red hat that is good
and a stripy hat that's new
but let it not be said
that the red hat is old
or the stripy hat is bad
both are good and in fashion
his striped hat is blue
for Dunce's misery and green
for Dunce's envy and bile
not even I hear Batty speak
but perhaps he says
fuck off Dunce and die
--
PJR :-)
lafcadio had a white hat
george told us
[I'd put one on Mt. Fuji
to keep the mountain cool]
george read "hat" in lafcadio
he told us
he stuck one on my poem
what a tool
"it's in the archives"
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 10:57:18 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
<snip for focus>
Post by Cythera
lafcadio had a white hat
Lafcadio Hearn, interestingly, also had a "Cythera" connection.. he
was born there!

http://www.jstor.org/pss/2920285

Lafcadio Hearn's mother was from "one of the best families from the
island of Cerigo: the antique Cythera, just south of ancient Sparta in
the Mediteranean Sea..."

And from:

http://tinyurl.com/Hearn-Cythera

"Cythera, the birthplace not only of Aphrodite but of Lafcadio Hearn,
both hovering on the water as insubstantially as puffs of pale blue
smoke..."

References linkig Hearn to Cythera are multiple, in fact:

http://tinyurl.com/2c3qlz5

Interesting coincience, eh?

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ggamble
2010-12-23 17:13:11 UTC
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Lafcadio Hearn's mother was from "one of the best families from the
island of Cerigo: the antique Cythera, just south of ancient Sparta in
the Mediteranean Sea..."
Whatever would you do without Google, you ignorant fool?
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 17:39:41 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Lafcadio Hearn's mother was from "one of the best families from the
island of Cerigo: the antique Cythera, just south of ancient Sparta in
the Mediteranean Sea..."
Whatever would you do without Google
So you're trying to claim you don't use Google, gg?
Post by ggamble
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
<snip for focus>
Post by Will Dockery
lafcadio had a white hat
Lafcadio Hearn, interestingly, also had a "Cythera" connection.. he
was born there!
http://www.jstor.org/pss/2920285
Lafcadio Hearn's mother was from "one of the best families from the
island of Cerigo: the antique Cythera, just south of ancient Sparta in
the Mediteranean Sea..."
http://tinyurl.com/Hearn-Cythera
"Cythera, the birthplace not only of Aphrodite but of Lafcadio Hearn,
both hovering on the water as insubstantially as puffs of pale blue
smoke..."
http://tinyurl.com/2c3qlz5
Interesting coincience, eh?
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ggamble
2010-12-23 17:48:25 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Lafcadio Hearn's mother was from "one of the best families from the
Post by Will Dockery
island of Cerigo: the antique Cythera, just south of ancient Sparta in
the Mediteranean Sea..."
Whatever would you do without Google
So you're trying to claim you don't use Google, gg?
So, you're trying to claim that you know how to read?
So, you're trying to claim you know something about Greece?
So, you're trying to claim that Kythera is called Cerigo by anyone except
the Italians?
So, you're trying to claim that ancient Sparta is in the Mediterranean?

no wait, you're only quoting your sole source of information.

You're not fooling anyone.
m@tt
2010-12-23 17:58:05 UTC
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snip duck shit

look at you: playing right into the hands
of the duck; because you think you're so
fuckin smart.

Yet, here you are...playing.

Go, doggy...fetch the duck bone; shoot at
the duck little duck fucker.

You get what you came for...nothing.

enjoy!
George Dance
2010-12-23 19:07:50 UTC
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Post by ggamble
Post by Will Dockery
Lafcadio Hearn's mother was from "one of the best families from the
island of Cerigo: the antique Cythera, just south of ancient Sparta in
the Mediteranean Sea..."
Whatever would you do without Google
So you're trying to claim you don't use Google, gg?
Not for any of that, anyway. He's pretending that he knew all of it
already.
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Post by ggamble
http://www.jstor.org/pss/2920285
Lafcadio Hearn's mother was from "one of the best families from the
island of Cerigo: the antique Cythera, just south of ancient Sparta in
the Mediteranean Sea..."
http://tinyurl.com/Hearn-Cythera
"Cythera, the birthplace not only of Aphrodite but of Lafcadio Hearn,
both hovering on the water as insubstantially as puffs of pale blue
smoke..."
http://tinyurl.com/2c3qlz5
Interesting coincience, eh?
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ggamble
2010-12-23 19:20:09 UTC
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So you're trying to claim you don't use Google, gg?
Not for any of that, anyway. He's pretending that he knew all of it
already.
Am I really pretending?

I've been all over the Mani, have you?
ggamble
2010-12-23 20:18:19 UTC
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Am I really pretending?
crickets
not ggamble
2010-12-23 20:24:41 UTC
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crickets
One can only wish.

What part of Fuck Off did you not understand?
ggamble
2010-12-23 20:33:45 UTC
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Post by ggamble
crickets
One can only wish.
What part of Fuck Off did you not understand?
Oh, you're all socked up!

Does that make you happy?
Does it make you feel empowered?
Does it make you feel in control of the situation?
not ggamble
2010-12-23 20:44:04 UTC
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Oh, you're all socked up!
So are you, troll.
ggamble
2010-12-23 20:49:39 UTC
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Oh, you're all socked up!
So are you, troll.
So you say.

Do you sometimes get frustrated when the fanciful things you type don't
immediately become reality?

I don't.
not ggamble
2010-12-23 20:23:40 UTC
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I've been all over the Mani,
Mounfield?
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have you?
ggamble
2010-12-23 20:39:54 UTC
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Post by ggamble
I've been all over the Mani,
Mounfield?
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have you?
Since (according to you) I have an IQ in double digits, I had to look up
your cryptic reply only to discover it's another george dance gay lame!

Awesome.

I guess that's what really smart people like george like to do: infer that
other people in the ng are gay.

I say *like to do*, but that would infer that such activity makes george
happy, and we all know that's not the case.
Apparently, he does it because he thinks it demonstrates how intelligent he
is.

Oh, if only we were all as intelligent as george!
ggamble
2010-12-23 20:47:55 UTC
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Oh, if only we were all as intelligent as george!
if we were, perhaps we could write deep, insightful poetry.


crickets
and then
deeper crickets
when one stands up
and spreads his wings
and looks like a cross
so we don't forget
Armistice Day
which doesn't come when spring
is here and I am with Maureen.
not ggamble
2010-12-23 22:31:31 UTC
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deep, insightful poetry.
crickets
and then
deeper crickets
when one stands up
and spreads his wings
and looks like a cross
so we don't forget
Armistice Day
which doesn't come when spring
is here and I am with Maureen.
That's at least as deep and insightful as anything else you've written
here in the past 4 years.
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 22:51:11 UTC
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Post by ggamble
deep, insightful poetry.
crickets
and then
deeper crickets
when one stands up
and spreads his wings
and looks like a cross
so we don't forget
Armistice Day
which doesn't come when spring
is here and I am with Maureen.
That's at least as deep and insightful as anything else you've written
here in the past 4 years.
"Regrets for Pete the Cricket" by Gary Gamble...

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ggamble
2010-12-23 23:20:42 UTC
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the Cricket
drunk again, eh?
ggamble
2010-12-23 23:19:50 UTC
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deep and insightful
I don't think you're qualified to comment on such things.
George Dance
2011-01-01 23:09:08 UTC
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I've been all over theMani,
Mounfield?
have you?
I had to look up
your cryptic reply
And with that you gave yourself away, forger. ggary ggamble never has
to look anything up. He'll tell you that only illiterates and morons
ever look anything up -- just ask him.

Now fuck off, forger.
ggamble
2011-01-01 23:53:02 UTC
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Post by George Dance
ggary ggamble never has
to look anything up. He'll tell you that only illiterates and morons
ever look anything up -- just ask him.
Another new year, another new lie from mensageorge.

see george
see george lie
lie george lie

May mensageorge learn how to read in the new year.

read mensageorge read
c&c
2011-01-02 00:20:09 UTC
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Post by ggamble
Another new year, another new lie from mensageorge.
see george
see george lie
lie george lie
May mensageorge learn how to read in the new year.
read mensageorge read
If George is to learn to read with greater comprehension, I'd give
greater consideration to what I put in front of him to make the
process of learning more worth his while, if I were you. The
fundamental role of the teacher is to motivate learning. You've shown
that you can elicit response in kind. You've got monkey see monkey do
down pat. Learn a new trick this year. Be a better teacher. Write
something interesting. Make George want to be a better person. Or
not. I understand you can only do what you can do. I'm sorry, I
really don't mean to expect too much from you. It's just a bad habit
I have.
Will Dockery
2011-01-02 00:47:10 UTC
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Post by ggamble
Post by George Dance
ggary ggamble never has
to look anything up. He'll tell you that only illiterates and morons
ever look anything up -- just ask him.
Another new year, another new lie from mensageorge.
see george
see george
All you seem to "see" is George, Gary... do you dream of you two
getting a room, or something?

--
Music & poetry by Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
ggamble
2011-01-02 06:33:27 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
All you seem to "see" is George, Gary... do you dream of you two
getting a room, or something?
That's one of the most original gay lames ever.
Congratulations.
c&c
2011-01-02 10:42:18 UTC
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Post by ggamble
Post by Will Dockery
All you seem to "see" is George, Gary... do you dream of you two
getting a room, or something?
That's one of the most original gay lames ever.
Congratulations.
What exactly makes that a gay lame? Be specific. I dream of getting
a room with you, gg. I dream of getting a room with George too, and a
few other people here besides. Does that make me gay, lame,
promiscuous? I dream of having congress with you both; call it
intercourse or interpersonal relations if you like, I don't care.
Fucking either of you never entered my mind. I think you're
interesting people, and that five minutes on the phone, like Shaun and
I shared yesterday, would be time well spent, but of course I've got
plenty of other ways to fill my time, so please don't feel obliged to
waste any of yours on me.

If we're going to fuck around here, we're going to do it right if I
have anything to do with it. Sometimes I do quickies, and sometimes I
can go all night. Either way, satisfaction is always guaranteed or my
name ain't [insert some ho you know].
Will Dockery
2011-01-02 17:51:21 UTC
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Post by ggamble
Post by Will Dockery
All you seem to "see" is George, Gary... do you dream of you two
getting a room, or something?
That's one of the most original gay
No, it was a comment on your obviously growing obsession with George,
Gary.

--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
George Dance
2011-01-02 07:00:21 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by ggamble
Another new year, another new lie from mensageorge.
see george
see george
All you seem to "see" is George, Gary... do you dream of you two
getting a room, or something?
What? ~True Poet~ Gary Gamble having sex with one of the *stupid
people*? Maybe if he got to snuff the *stupid person* at the end --
otherwise, I should think not!

I'm sure that, like PJ, he just likes to close his eyes and 'see' me
(or you, or Tom, or Max, or maybe Vera or Dorrie for variety) lying
dead or dying in a ditch. Maybe he'll even think a little poem about
it while his right hand pumps out the beat.
Post by Will Dockery
--
Music & poetry by Will Dockery:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
c&c
2011-01-02 10:20:03 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by ggamble
Another new year, another new lie from mensageorge.
see george
see george
All you seem to "see" is George, Gary... do you dream of you two
getting a room, or something?
What? ~True Poet~ Gary Gamble having sex with one of the *stupid
people*? Maybe if he got to snuff the *stupid person* at the end --
otherwise, I should think not!
Sexual congress confuses both teacher and student as to their
respective roles, but most people are smart enough to know when
they've been fucked.
Post by George Dance
I'm sure that, like PJ, he just likes to close his eyes and 'see' me
(or you, or Tom, or Max, or maybe Vera or Dorrie for variety) lying
dead or dying in a ditch. Maybe he'll even think a little poem about
it while his right hand pumps out the beat.
That reads like an odd masturbatory fantasy, but whatever works for
you is fine by me.
ggamble
2011-01-02 17:42:05 UTC
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Post by George Dance
What? ~True Poet~ Gary Gamble having sex with one of the *stupid
people*? Maybe if he got to snuff the *stupid person* at the end --
otherwise, I should think not!
I'm sure that, like PJ, he just likes to close his eyes and 'see' me
(or you, or Tom, or Max, or maybe Vera or Dorrie for variety) lying
dead or dying in a ditch. Maybe he'll even think a little poem about
it while his right hand pumps out the beat.
You're getting increasingly creepy, mensageorge.
George Dance
2011-01-02 18:05:26 UTC
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Post by ggamble
Post by George Dance
What? ~True Poet~ Gary Gamble having sex with one of the *stupid
people*? Maybe if he got to snuff the *stupid person* at the end --
otherwise, I should think not!
I'm sure that, like PJ, he just likes to close his eyes and 'see' me
(or you, or Tom, or Max, or maybe Vera or Dorrie for variety) lying
dead or dying in a ditch. Maybe he'll even think a little poem about
it while his right hand pumps out the beat.
"wouldn't it be a great Christmas treat for every decent human being
who participates in
Usenet if both [Dance] and [Dockery] were dead now?” Peter J Ross
<***@pjr.gotdns.org>

https://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/55cdfeaa8c58942c
Post by ggamble
increasingly creepy
Oh, I'd say you guys are just as creepy as ever.
Will Dockery
2011-01-02 18:13:10 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Post by ggamble
Post by George Dance
What? ~True Poet~ Gary Gamble having sex with one of the *stupid
people*? Maybe if he got to snuff the *stupid person* at the end --
otherwise, I should think not!
I'm sure that, like PJ, he just likes to close his eyes and 'see' me
(or you, or Tom, or Max, or maybe Vera or Dorrie for variety) lying
dead or dying in a ditch. Maybe he'll even think a little poem about
it while his right hand pumps out the beat.
"wouldn't it be a great Christmas treat for every decent human being
who participates in
Usenet if both [Dance] and [Dockery] were dead now?” Peter J Ross
Ah, more Death-Fantasies... how charming.
Post by George Dance
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/55cdfeaa...
Post by ggamble
increasingly creepy
Oh, I'd say you guys are just as creepy as ever.
"Indeed." -Marg/Pandora

--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
ggamble
2011-01-02 18:30:11 UTC
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Post by George Dance
"wouldn't it be a great Christmas treat for every decent human being
who participates in
Usenet if both [Dance] and [Dockery] were dead now?” Peter J Ross
dance's dictum still lives

I could make you responsible for everything chuckles or (insert kook name
here) has ever typed, but that would just be ridiculous.

But, you don't mind appearing ridiculous, apparently, no.

Will Dockery
2010-12-23 22:08:31 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by ggamble
Post by Will Dockery
Lafcadio Hearn's mother was from "one of the best families from the
island of Cerigo: the antique Cythera, just south of ancient Sparta in
the Mediteranean Sea..."
Whatever would you do without Google
So you're trying to claim you don't use Google, gg?
Not for any of that, anyway. He's pretending that he knew all of it already.
Well, gg may want to pretend to know it all, but hose types always
stumble evntually, such as..

Wonder if Cythera will pretend she *didn't* know what a connection she
has to Lafcadio Hearn, naming herself afer his mother's home and his
birthplace, not to mention what led me to learning about him in the
first place, her obvious borrowing of his ideas:

http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/1386312/fuji-san_george_dance/3

"Lafcadio Hearn had the idea that Fuji looked like a straw hat in
1898...":

"They supplied me with a pilgrim-staff, heavy blue tabi (that is to
say, cleft-stockings, to used with sandals), a straw hat shaped like
Fuji, and the rest of a pilgrim's outfit;--telling me to be ready to
start with them at four o'clock in the morning."

http://www.ibiblio.org/eldritch/lh/fuji.html
Post by Will Dockery
Post by ggamble
http://www.jstor.org/pss/2920285
Lafcadio Hearn's mother was from "one of the best families from the
island of Cerigo: the antique Cythera, just south of ancient Sparta in
the Mediteranean Sea..."
http://tinyurl.com/Hearn-Cythera
"Cythera, the birthplace not only of Aphrodite but of Lafcadio Hearn,
both hovering on the water as insubstantially as puffs of pale blue
smoke..."
http://tinyurl.com/2c3qlz5
Interesting coincience, eh?
--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery & friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
ggamble
2010-12-23 23:18:42 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
not to mention what led me to learning about him in the
first place
What would you do without google?
Cythera
2010-12-23 23:21:46 UTC
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<snip>
Post by Will Dockery
Wonder if Cythera will pretend she *didn't* know what a connection she
has to Lafcadio Hearn, naming herself afer his mother's home and his
birthplace, not to mention what led me to learning about him in the
first place,
Name two of those ideas and show, don't tell, that I have ever read
anything by Hearn.
We know your online friend George has:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/2e9237dbb737d6ba?dmode=source
He had to babble it out in an effort to prove *I'd* read that quote.
<snip>
Barbara's Cat
2010-12-24 04:01:01 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Well, gg may want to pretend to know it all, but hose types always
stumble evntually, such as..
Dockery + mouth + foot = Goober

Math never lies.
--
Cm~

"I win."
- Goober Dockery
getting nowhere,
gaining nothing,
again.
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 18:25:22 UTC
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Post by ggamble
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
Lafcadio Hearn's mother was from "one of the best families from the
Post by Will Dockery
island of Cerigo: the antique Cythera, just south of ancient Sparta in
the Mediteranean Sea..."
Whatever would you do without Google
So you're trying to claim you don't use Google, gg?
So, you're trying to claim
Post by Will Dockery
lafcadio had a white hat
Lafcadio Hearn, interestingly, also had a "Cythera" connection.. he
was born there!
http://www.jstor.org/pss/2920285
Lafcadio Hearn's mother was from "one of the best families from the
island of Cerigo: the antique Cythera, just south of ancient Sparta in
the Mediteranean Sea..."
http://tinyurl.com/Hearn-Cythera
"Cythera, the birthplace not only of Aphrodite but of Lafcadio Hearn,
both hovering on the water as insubstantially as puffs of pale blue
smoke..."
http://tinyurl.com/2c3qlz5
Interesting coincience, eh?
--
Music & poetry by Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
ggamble
2010-12-23 18:47:48 UTC
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On 23-Dec-2010, "Will Dockery" <***@gmail.com> wrote:


So, you're trying to claim that you know how to read?
So, you're trying to claim you know something about Greece?
So, you're trying to claim that Kythera is called Cerigo by anyone except
the Italians?
So, you're trying to claim that ancient Sparta is in the Mediterranean?
Awesome.
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 23:35:53 UTC
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Cythera said
Post by Cythera
<snip>
Post by Will Dockery
Wonder if Cythera will pretend she *didn't* know what a connection she
has to Lafcadio Hearn, naming herself afer his mother's home and his
birthplace, not to mention what led me to learning about him in the
first place,
Name two of those ideas and show, don't tell
And the you will be doing likewise for once in your silly tenure on Usenet,
Cythera?

Remember, I'm not a mind reader like you so often claim to be.
Post by Cythera
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
<snip for focus>
Post by Will Dockery
lafcadio had a white hat
Lafcadio Hearn, interestingly, also had a "Cythera" connection.. he
was born there!
http://www.jstor.org/pss/2920285
Lafcadio Hearn's mother was from "one of the best families from the
island of Cerigo: the antique Cythera, just south of ancient Sparta in
the Mediteranean Sea..."
http://tinyurl.com/Hearn-Cythera
"Cythera, the birthplace not only of Aphrodite but of Lafcadio Hearn,
both hovering on the water as insubstantially as puffs of pale blue
smoke..."
http://tinyurl.com/2c3qlz5
Interesting coincience, eh?
--
?"Christmas comes only once a year
why can't anybody shed just one tear
for things that don't happen all through the night?" -Lou Reed
http://www.youtube.com/user/WDockery
Cythera
2010-12-24 00:49:50 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Cythera said
Post by Cythera
<snip>
Post by Will Dockery
Wonder if Cythera will pretend she *didn't* know what a connection she
has to Lafcadio Hearn, naming herself afer his mother's home and his
birthplace, not to mention what led me to learning about him in the
first place,
Name two of those ideas and show, don't tell
And the you will be doing likewise for once in your silly tenure on Usenet,
Cythera?
In other words, you will not back up your claim that I've borrowed
multiple ideas from Lafcadio Hearn.
And no, you won't show I've read him.
Post by Will Dockery
Remember, I'm not a mind reader
Earlier you stated that most of my poetry is based on that of others.
Names and titles, please.
Remember to show, not tell, that your list comprises most of my
poetry.
<snip>
Will Dockery
2010-12-31 23:09:39 UTC
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Post by Cythera
<snip>
Post by Will Dockery
Don't forget Mr. Lafcadio Hearn's contribution... who used the same idea
as
you and Rain Shadow over 100 years ago.
Athough you probably deleted it from Google Groups, Cythera, the thread
where you borrowed and rewrote Rain Shadow's poem is still in other Usenet
archives:

http://www.freak-search.com/en/thread/1386046/are_there_women_poets_here/12

In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:40:59 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
obpoem: ( verbal watercolor )
after so much rain
snow capped desert mountains
and first daffodils
On Jan 26, 8:540am, Cythera <***@my-deja.com> wrote:

The sounds are dull.
The images are dull.
The meaning is absent.

It implies that the snow is the result of the rain.
"snow capped" doesn't even make the attempt to be original.

so much snow
fuji-yama
white-sugar hat

Which is when you mixed some ofRain Shadow's ides with the much earier ones
of Lafcadio Hearn:

http://www.nntpnews.info/f185/fuji-san-george-dance-14302332/index5.html
Post by Cythera
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
Lafcadio Hearn had the idea that Fuji looked like a straw hat in
1898.
"They supplied me with a pilgrim-staff, heavy blue tabi (that is to
say, cleft-stockings, to used with sandals), a straw hat shaped
like
Fuji, and the rest of a pilgrim's outfit;--telling me to be ready
to
start with them at four o'clock in the morning."
Piss off, dockery.
You first, Cythera.

--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
Cythera
2011-01-01 01:38:35 UTC
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Post by Cythera
<snip>
Post by Will Dockery
Don't forget Mr. Lafcadio Hearn's contribution... who used the same idea
as you and Rain Shadow over 100 years ago.
Repeat: She wrote about Mt. Fuji, dockery?
*crickets*
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/a3cbcee0b90491bc
<snip>
Peter J Ross
2010-12-23 16:36:02 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:32:41 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:02:50 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Good old Betty..!
Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
Betty has a stolen hat.
now Batty has two hats
neither of them stolen
a red hat that is good
and a stripy hat that's new
but let it not be said
that the red hat is old
or the stripy hat is bad
both are good and in fashion
his striped hat is blue
for Dunce's misery and green
for Dunce's envy and bile
not even I hear Batty speak
but perhaps he says
fuck off Dunce and die
--
PJR :-)
lafcadio had a white hat
george told us
[I'd put one on Mt. Fuji
to keep the mountain cool]
george read "hat" in lafcadio
he told us
he stuck one on my poem
what a tool
"it's in the archives"
I think yours is funnier than mine.
--
PJR :-)
Cythera
2010-12-31 10:29:29 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:32:41 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:02:50 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Good old Betty..!
Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
Betty has a stolen hat.
now Batty has two hats
neither of them stolen
a red hat that is good
and a stripy hat that's new
but let it not be said
that the red hat is old
or the stripy hat is bad
both are good and in fashion
his striped hat is blue
for Dunce's misery and green
for Dunce's envy and bile
not even I hear Batty speak
but perhaps he says
fuck off Dunce and die
--
PJR :-)
lafcadio had a white hat
george told us
[I'd put one on Mt. Fuji
to keep the mountain cool]
george read "hat" in lafcadio
he told us
he stuck one on my poem
what a tool
"it's in the archives"
I think yours is funnier than mine.
--
PJR :-)
georgie has a list
surrogate fist
it hurts his head
just georgie's head
c&c
2010-12-31 11:02:54 UTC
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Post by Cythera
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:32:41 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:02:50 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Good old Betty..!
Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
Betty has a stolen hat.
now Batty has two hats
neither of them stolen
a red hat that is good
and a stripy hat that's new
but let it not be said
that the red hat is old
or the stripy hat is bad
both are good and in fashion
his striped hat is blue
for Dunce's misery and green
for Dunce's envy and bile
not even I hear Batty speak
but perhaps he says
fuck off Dunce and die
--
PJR :-)
lafcadio had a white hat
george told us
[I'd put one on Mt. Fuji
to keep the mountain cool]
george read "hat" in lafcadio
he told us
he stuck one on my poem
what a tool
"it's in the archives"
I think yours is funnier than mine.
--
PJR :-)
georgie has a list
surrogate fist
it hurts his head
just georgie's head- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
think instead
fist to head
statuesque

art and tinker
rodin thinker
arabesque
m@tt
2010-12-31 11:07:53 UTC
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Post by c&c
Post by Cythera
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:32:41 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:02:50 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Good old Betty..!
Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
Betty has a stolen hat.
now Batty has two hats
neither of them stolen
a red hat that is good
and a stripy hat that's new
but let it not be said
that the red hat is old
or the stripy hat is bad
both are good and in fashion
his striped hat is blue
for Dunce's misery and green
for Dunce's envy and bile
not even I hear Batty speak
but perhaps he says
fuck off Dunce and die
--
PJR :-)
lafcadio had a white hat
george told us
[I'd put one on Mt. Fuji
to keep the mountain cool]
george read "hat" in lafcadio
he told us
he stuck one on my poem
what a tool
"it's in the archives"
I think yours is funnier than mine.
--
PJR :-)
georgie has a list
surrogate fist
it hurts his head
just georgie's head- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
think instead
fist to head
statuesque
art and tinker
rodin thinker
arabesque
albuquerque
why so quirky
fist in ass
free at last.

left a stinker
made me thinker
ass was grass
(puff)
free at last.
c&c
2010-12-31 13:05:28 UTC
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Post by ***@tt
Post by c&c
Post by Cythera
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 19:32:41 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 22 Dec 2010 10:02:50 -0800 (PST),
Post by Cythera
Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Good old Betty..!
Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
Betty has a stolen hat.
now Batty has two hats
neither of them stolen
a red hat that is good
and a stripy hat that's new
but let it not be said
that the red hat is old
or the stripy hat is bad
both are good and in fashion
his striped hat is blue
for Dunce's misery and green
for Dunce's envy and bile
not even I hear Batty speak
but perhaps he says
fuck off Dunce and die
--
PJR :-)
lafcadio had a white hat
george told us
[I'd put one on Mt. Fuji
to keep the mountain cool]
george read "hat" in lafcadio
he told us
he stuck one on my poem
what a tool
"it's in the archives"
I think yours is funnier than mine.
--
PJR :-)
georgie has a list
surrogate fist
it hurts his head
just georgie's head- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
think instead
fist to head
statuesque
art and tinker
rodin thinker
arabesque
albuquerque
why so quirky
fist in ass
free at last.
left a stinker
made me thinker
ass was grass
(puff)
free at last.- Hide quoted text -
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"(puff)(puff)?" Pass.
To run on grass
suggests to me a
sensimilla.

Since I sense a scent, I see a
sentence sent, and bent to be a
written word's intent, a mea
culpa sculpted scent - Who, me? Duh.
ggamble
2010-12-31 17:43:00 UTC
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Post by Cythera
georgie has a list
surrogate fist
it hurts his head
just georgie's head
HOLY FUCK, SHE DIDN'T GIVE CREDIT TO THE CREATOR OF THE ORIGINAL POEM!

Cue months of crocodile tears from pizza delivery people with internet
connections.

Chime in here, mensageorge.
Cythera
2010-12-31 19:18:21 UTC
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Post by ggamble
Post by Cythera
georgie has a list
surrogate fist
it hurts his head
just georgie's head
HOLY FUCK, SHE DIDN'T GIVE CREDIT TO THE CREATOR OF THE ORIGINAL POEM!
It's based on a poem by Peter J. Ross.
Post by ggamble
Cue months of crocodile tears from pizza delivery people with internet
connections.
Chime in here, mensageorge.
ggamble
2010-12-31 19:26:54 UTC
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Too late, they'll pretend they never saw the subsequent attribution.

Happy New Year.
Cythera
2010-12-31 21:23:02 UTC
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Post by ggamble
Too late, they'll pretend they never saw the subsequent attribution.
Happy New Year.
Maybe dreckery can give the poem a precious title like he did here:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.arts.poems/msg/72bfafc12a5c3ee5?hl=en
and here:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/a19454e3fd236d93?hl=enHbfafc12a5c3ee5
then sign my name to it, thusly:
https://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/0fac8a3fed666eac?hl=en&
and george can do one of his investigations, like this one:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/7aa7391729a9a4a8?
then say I stole the poem from rain_shadow, and stick it on his
'blog.'
Happy New Year.
George Dance
2010-12-31 18:25:42 UTC
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Post by Cythera
georgie has a list
Oh, indeed:

Betty's 14 Days of Christmas + 1

A holiday poem a day for your reading pleasure
on The Betty Blog, Dec. 17-31 :

http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/


31 - The Darkling Thrush - Thomas Hardy
Post by Cythera
30 - Old Christmas - Mary Howitt
29 - Minstrels - William Wordsworth
28 - Mistletoe - Walter de la Mare
Post by George Dance
27 - The Oxen - Thomas Hardy
Post by George Dance
26 - Christmas Bells - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Post by George Dance
25 - When Mary the Mother kissed the Child - Charles G.D. Roberts
Post by George Dance
24 - O Holy Night - Placide Cappeau / J.S. Dwight
Post by George Dance
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
George Dance
2010-12-31 18:28:47 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
misery and
envy and bile
fuck off Dunce and die
Have a Happy New Year, PJ-troll.

Betty's 14 Days of Christmas + 1

A holiday poem a day for your reading pleasure
on The Betty Blog, Dec. 17-31 :

http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/


31 - The Darkling Thrush - Thomas Hardy
Post by Peter J Ross
30 - Old Christmas - Mary Howitt
29 - Minstrels - William Wordsworth
28 - Mistletoe - Walter de la Mare
Post by George Dance
27 - The Oxen - Thomas Hardy
Post by George Dance
26 - Christmas Bells - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Post by George Dance
25 - When Mary the Mother kissed the Child - Charles G.D. Roberts
Post by George Dance
24 - O Holy Night - Placide Cappeau / J.S. Dwight
Post by George Dance
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Will Dockery
2010-12-24 01:11:25 UTC
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Earlier you stated that most of my poetry is based on that of others.
Most of it that I've seen, yes.

For example your poems "Fawn Greyhound" & "Cornhole Town" based on mine:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/ed9016d31de6b7c2

Will Dockery's "Fawn Greyhound" (parody by Cythera)
Post by Cythera
Fawn greyhound ---
your magic oven
Kenner Easy Bake
The shimmering minutes
til cookies are ready
making your acquaintance
under the shade tree
Coming to your smile
greeted at the door
welcomed with my green shoes in your mouth.
Fawn greyhound ---
sweet golden cookies
some with blue sprinkles
fresh from the oven
swim in your darkened food bowl.
Fawn greyhound ---
greeted at the door
there by your door-flap
Glad-eyed lady
of the lowland
wild running child.
Fawn greyhound
to lie repeatedly in your smile
sweet glow of your presence
did you like your biscuits?
Based on a poem by Will Dockery
HTH & HAN holiday, Cyhera!
--
Red Lipped Stranger / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars
http://youtu.be/qBhcN1WK144
ggamble
2010-12-24 01:46:29 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Cythera
Earlier you stated that most of my poetry is based on that of others.
Most of it that I've seen, yes.
apparently, no.
Cythera
2010-12-24 02:01:56 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Cythera
Earlier you stated that most of my poetry is based on that of others.
Most of it that I've seen, yes.
You said most of it.
Let the backpedaling continue:
<snip>
Let's see the link.
Cythera
2010-12-24 02:10:03 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Cythera
Earlier you stated that most of my poetry is based on that of others.
Most of it that I've seen, yes.
And more: you stated that most of my poetry is based on that of
others.
Post by Will Dockery
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/ed9016d31...
Will Dockery's "Fawn Greyhound" (parody by Cythera)
So you've read *most* of my poetry, and it's one poem, which is based
on "Fawn Greyhound"?

<snip>
Will Dockery
2010-12-24 04:21:40 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/ed9016d31...
Will Dockery's "Fawn Greyhound" (parody by Cythera)
So you've read *most* of my poetry, and it's one poem, which is based on "Fawn Greyhound"?
That's an example. Do you deny the years you've similarly rewritten
Morpheal?

Will Dockery's "Fawn Greyhound" (parody by Cythera)
Post by Will Dockery
Fawn greyhound ---
your magic oven
Kenner Easy Bake
The shimmering minutes
til cookies are ready
making your acquaintance
under the shade tree
Coming to your smile
greeted at the door
welcomed with my green shoes in your mouth.
Fawn greyhound ---
sweet golden cookies
some with blue sprinkles
fresh from the oven
swim in your darkened food bowl.
Fawn greyhound ---
greeted at the door
there by your door-flap
Glad-eyed lady
of the lowland
wild running child.
Fawn greyhound
to lie repeatedly in your smile
sweet glow of your presence
did you like your biscuits?
Based on a poem by Will Dockery
HTH & HAN holiday, Cythera!
--
Red Lipped Stranger / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars
http://youtu.be/qBhcN1WK144
Cythera
2010-12-24 05:45:21 UTC
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<snip>
"Cornhole Town"
Second time: let's see your link.
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/ed9016d31...
Will Dockery's "Fawn Greyhound" (parody by Cythera)
So you've read *most* of my poetry, and it's one poem, which is based on "Fawn Greyhound"?
That's an example.
That's all you've got?
Post by Will Dockery
Do you deny the years you've similarly rewritten Morpheal?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/a311e5e70888fcca?dmode=source
"Cythera, from what I've seen, most of the poetry that you've posted
here you've based on Morpheal, Rainshadow, Hearn... me. "
Link to four of those poems total.
Any configuration you like.
Anything that you yourself copy/paste(d) doesn't apply.
Last chance for you to save face, dockery.
<snip>
Will Dockery
2010-12-24 13:32:00 UTC
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Post by Cythera
Post by George Dance
Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
And since most of those listed ggamble don't even write poetry any more...
Try to
Hasn't written a poem in years, alleged to have written some recent
haiku.
No poetry on these newsgroups for at least a year.
No new poetry on these newsgroups in years.
Again, no poetry on these newsgroups in over a year.
PJR is one f the few prolific poets on Gamble's list, having posted
two or three poems over the last year.
Never posted a poem on these newsgroups.
Once prolific, Karla hasn't posted a poem on the newsgroups formonts.
At least four poems posted on the newsgroups over the last year.
One or two poems posted over the last year, nothing posted for months,
though.
No poetry posted on the newsgroups for over a year.
Post by Cythera
It's in the archives.
Yes, it is certainly is.
HTH & HAN holiday, Cythera.

--
Red Lipped Stranger / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars
http://youtu.be/qBhcN1WK144
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 03:54:23 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Good old Betty..!
Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
And since most of those listed ggamble don't even write poetry any
more...

--
Black Crow's Brother / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://youtu.be/WxO1RAYTIFA
Post by George Dance
--
Post by Will Dockery
Red Lipped Stranger / Will Dockery & The Shadowville http://youtu.be/qBhcN1WK144
Cythera
2010-12-23 09:55:31 UTC
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<snip>
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Hey, when it comes to "notable poets" and/or "notable poems", I'd pick
one of Betty's lists over one of ggamble's any day. 8)
And since most of those listed ggamble don't even write poetry any
more...
Try to have your mumbles make sense.

<snip>
George Dance
2010-12-22 15:20:33 UTC
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Betty's 14 Days of Christmas

A holiday poem a day on The Betty Blog, Dec. 17-30:

http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas

22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
George Dance
2010-12-23 16:38:00 UTC
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Betty's 14 Days of Christmas

A holiday poem a day on The Betty Blog, Dec. 17-30:

http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas

23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Will Dockery
2010-12-25 23:53:36 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick> 22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Great series...

--
Red Lipped Stranger / Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars
http://youtu.be/qBhcN1WK144
George Dance
2010-12-26 17:11:37 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas

26 - Christmas Bells - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
25 - When Mary the Mother kissed the Child - Charles G.D. Roberts
24 - O Holy Night - Placide Cappeau / J.S. Dwight
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Great series...
Thanks, Will. I enjoy reading and finding these poems, and I think
others will enjoy them, too. That's the whole point here; to get poems
to readers. It's a good day to remind everyone that TBB is not just
shutting down Christmas the day after, but that we'll be running
Christmas poems till the 30th (followed by two New Year's poems).

I updated Betty's list, above, so that it's current as of this
morning, as this will be the only post I'll send to aapc about the
series today.
Post by Will Dockery
--
Red Lipped Stranger / Will Dockery & The Shadowville http://youtu.be/qBhcN1WK144
Will Dockery
2010-12-26 23:10:48 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
 http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
26 - Christmas Bells - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
25 - When Mary the Mother kissed the Child - Charles G.D. Roberts
24 - O Holy Night - Placide Cappeau / J.S. Dwight
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Great series...
Thanks, Will. I enjoy reading and finding these poems, and I think
others will enjoy them, too. That's the whole point here; to get poems
to readers. It's a good day to remind everyone that TBB is not just
shutting down Christmas the day after, but that we'll be running
Christmas poems till the 30th (followed by two New Year's poems).
I updated Betty's list, above, so that it's current as of this
morning, as this will be the only post I'll send to aapc about the series today.
Yes, the bittersweet holiday standards... at his Christmas party at
Woolfolk Mansion last night, flautist Geno played for us one of the
tapes of the performances we did last year with other local singer-
songwriters of X-mas standards, at an old folks home, the Rivercenter
For Performing Arts, Idle-Hour Park, and on, including my cover of
"Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas". I didn't know any tapes
existed of those shows, but maybe next year we can release some of
that, or at least mine as a single, cover art something like this:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=7446924&l=6586d6e695&id=620409362

Anyway, proably it won't happen because of copyrights and so on, as I
asume "Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas" isn't a public domain
tune. Perhaps someday I'll write my own holiday tune...
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 17:12:37 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Again, nice collection, man... I need to get the link out to my more
"General Audience" friends...

--
Music & poetry by Will Dockery & Friends:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
George Dance
2010-12-23 21:36:38 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Again, nice collection, man... I need to get the link out to my more
"General Audience" friends...
Thanks. I'd appreciate that; as always I'd like to get as many readers
as I can. And I think I've got some really good works in the hopper
for Christmas Eve and Day, and Boxing Day, I'd like readers to catch
those.

Tell you what: I know you're on Betty's announcement list on facebook.
I'll send out a general announcement from there within the hour, and
message you there that I've done so. If you can "Share" that message
with your (probably hundreds of) friends over there, that would be
most excellent.
Post by Will Dockery
--
Music & poetry by Will Dockery & Friends:http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
ggamble
2010-12-23 21:53:14 UTC
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You should try it sometime.
not ggamble
2010-12-23 22:17:30 UTC
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Post by ggamble
You should try it sometime.
Changing the subject header? All righty, then ...
Will Dockery
2010-12-23 23:00:32 UTC
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Post by George Dance
Post by Will Dockery
Post by George Dance
Betty's 14 Days of Christmas
http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
Again, nice collection, man... I need to get the link out to my more
"General Audience" friends...
Thanks. I'd appreciate that; as always I'd like to get as many readers
as I can. And I think I've got some really good works in the hopper
for Christmas Eve and Day, and Boxing Day, I'd like readers to catch
those.
Tell you what: I know you're on Betty's announcement list on facebook.
I'll send out a general announcement from there within the hour, and
message you there that I've done so. If you can "Share" that message
with your (probably hundreds of) friends over there, that would be
most excellent.
Great, going over there to have a look, now...

--
Music & poetry of Will Dockery & friends:
http://www.reverbnation.com/willdockery
Post by George Dance
--
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery
George Dance
2010-12-24 16:31:12 UTC
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Betty's 14 Days of Christmas

A holiday poem a day for your reading pleasure
from The Betty Blog, Dec. 17-30:

http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas

24 - O Holy Night - Placide Cappeau / J.S. Dwight
Post by George Dance
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
George Dance
2010-12-25 17:55:03 UTC
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Betty's 14 Days of Christmas

A holiday poem a day for your reading pleasure
on The Betty Blog, Dec. 17-30:

http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas

25 - When Mary the Mother kissed the Child - Charles G.D. Roberts
Post by George Dance
24 - O Holy Night - Placide Cappeau / J.S. Dwight
Post by George Dance
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
George Dance
2010-12-27 15:58:08 UTC
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Betty's 14 Days of Christmas

A holiday poem a day for your reading pleasure
on The Betty Blog, Dec. 17-30:

http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas

27 - The Oxen - Thomas Hardy
Post by George Dance
26 - Christmas Bells - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Post by George Dance
25 - When Mary the Mother kissed the Child - Charles G.D. Roberts
Post by George Dance
24 - O Holy Night - Placide Cappeau / J.S. Dwight
Post by George Dance
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
George Dance
2010-12-29 14:42:04 UTC
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Betty's 14 Days of Christmas

A holiday poem a day for your reading pleasure
on The Betty Blog, Dec. 17-30:

http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas

Minstrels - William Wordsworth
28 - Mistletoe - Walter de la Mare
Post by George Dance
27 - The Oxen - Thomas Hardy
Post by George Dance
26 - Christmas Bells - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Post by George Dance
25 - When Mary the Mother kissed the Child - Charles G.D. Roberts
Post by George Dance
24 - O Holy Night - Placide Cappeau / J.S. Dwight
Post by George Dance
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
George Dance
2010-12-30 18:14:15 UTC
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Betty's 14 Days of Christmas

A holiday poem a day for your reading pleasure
on The Betty Blog, Dec. 17-30:

http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/search/label/Christmas

Old Christmas - Mary Howitt
Post by George Dance
Minstrels - William Wordsworth
28 - Mistletoe - Walter de la Mare
Post by George Dance
27 - The Oxen - Thomas Hardy
Post by George Dance
26 - Christmas Bells - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow
Post by George Dance
25 - When Mary the Mother kissed the Child - Charles G.D. Roberts
Post by George Dance
24 - O Holy Night - Placide Cappeau / J.S. Dwight
Post by George Dance
23 - Ceremonies for Christmas - Robert Herrick
Post by George Dance
22 - Christmas Cheer - Thomas Tusser
Post by George Dance
21 - A Christmas Greeting - Walt Whitman
20 - Santa's Letter - Bernice Ann Page
19 - Now thrice welcome Christmas - William Winstanley
18 - It is the day that he was born - Alfred Tennyson
17 - The Burning Babe - Robert Southwell
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