Discussion:
Why Her and Not Me?
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Mack A. Damia
2019-12-16 00:12:34 UTC
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I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.

She began playing piano at the age of two, followed by violin at
three. At four she was composing and improvising on the piano, and by
five, had begun writing down her compositions. These first written
notations were unclear, but by six, she could write clear
compositions.

At age six she composed her first piano sonata. At age seven, she
completed a short opera The Sweeper of Dreams. Aged nine, she wrote a
concerto for violin and orchestra. At the age of ten she wrote her
first full-length opera, Cinderella, which had its European premiere
in Vienna in 2016 under the patronage of conductor Zubin Mehta. The
U.S. premiere a year later at Opera San Jose was released on DVD by
Sony Classical. At the age of twelve, Deutscher premiered her first
piano concerto. She gave her debut at Carnegie Hall in December 2019.

Absolutely remarkable and destined for immortality. A Mozart for our
times. I envy her enormous talent.

Watch what she does extemporaneously with *four* random notes at age
twelve:


RH Draney
2019-12-16 07:12:52 UTC
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Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
She began playing piano at the age of two, followed by violin at
three. At four she was composing and improvising on the piano, and by
five, had begun writing down her compositions. These first written
notations were unclear, but by six, she could write clear
compositions.
I'm most impressed that she developed her own notation from scratch....r
Peter T. Daniels
2019-12-16 13:02:07 UTC
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Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
She began playing piano at the age of two, followed by violin at
three. At four she was composing and improvising on the piano, and by
five, had begun writing down her compositions. These first written
notations were unclear, but by six, she could write clear
compositions.
I'm most impressed that she developed her own notation from scratch....r
The problem is that promoting her rather pedestrian accomplishments
for gain has derailed her father from a brilliant career as linguist
and Assyriologist.

She's no Mozart.
Jenny Telia
2020-01-17 11:44:50 UTC
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Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by RH Draney
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
She began playing piano at the age of two, followed by violin at
three. At four she was composing and improvising on the piano, and by
five, had begun writing down her compositions. These first written
notations were unclear, but by six, she could write clear
compositions.
I'm most impressed that she developed her own notation from scratch....r
The problem is that promoting her rather pedestrian accomplishments
for gain has derailed her father from a brilliant career as linguist
and Assyriologist.
She's no Mozart.
<miaou!> Neither is anyone else. Go to your room, and stop bitching.
</bitch>
Phil Hobbs
2019-12-16 10:03:41 UTC
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Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
She began playing piano at the age of two, followed by violin at
three. At four she was composing and improvising on the piano, and by
five, had begun writing down her compositions. These first written
notations were unclear, but by six, she could write clear
compositions.
At age six she composed her first piano sonata. At age seven, she
completed a short opera The Sweeper of Dreams. Aged nine, she wrote a
concerto for violin and orchestra. At the age of ten she wrote her
first full-length opera, Cinderella, which had its European premiere
in Vienna in 2016 under the patronage of conductor Zubin Mehta. The
U.S. premiere a year later at Opera San Jose was released on DVD by
Sony Classical. At the age of twelve, Deutscher premiered her first
piano concerto. She gave her debut at Carnegie Hall in December 2019.
Absolutely remarkable and destined for immortality. A Mozart for our
times. I envy her enormous talent.
Watch what she does extemporaneously with *four* random notes at age
http://youtu.be/Nz0OAcYknyw
Impressive.

Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2019-12-16 10:35:19 UTC
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Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
--
athel
RH Draney
2019-12-16 18:02:04 UTC
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Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
Peter Young
2019-12-16 18:24:44 UTC
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Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.

Peter.
--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Hg)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Peter Young
2019-12-16 19:34:18 UTC
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Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.

Peter.
--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Hg)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Peter Young
2019-12-16 21:10:31 UTC
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Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.
Staving off the scaling back of the thread, I see.
I'm not sure I like the tone of that, but your point is duly noted. I
think you've scored.

Peter.
--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Hg)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Ken Blake
2019-12-16 21:29:22 UTC
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Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.
Staving off the scaling back of the thread, I see.
I'm not sure I like the tone of that, but your point is duly noted. I
think you've scored.
Gee, that's a major point you've made.
--
Ken
Katy Jennison
2019-12-16 22:13:21 UTC
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Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.
Staving off the scaling back of the thread, I see.
I'm not sure I like the tone of that, but your point is duly noted. I
think you've scored.
Oh, I don't aim to beat you. In fact, I'll accompany yotoin the bar --
and no half measures!
--
Katy Jennison
Katy Jennison
2019-12-16 22:22:17 UTC
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Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.
Staving off the scaling back of the thread, I see.
I'm not sure I like the tone of that, but your point is duly noted. I
think you've scored.
Oh, I don't aim to beat you.  In fact, I'll accompany yotoin the bar --
and no half measures!
(Dunno what went wrong there. Should have read 'you to'. Must be the
prospect of a bar getting to me.)
--
Katy Jennison
Kerr-Mudd,John
2019-12-17 10:31:00 UTC
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 22:22:17 GMT, Katy Jennison
Post by Katy Jennison
Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ 
 ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.
Staving off the scaling back of the thread, I see.
I'm not sure I like the tone of that, but your point is duly noted.
I think you've scored.
Oh, I don't aim to beat you.  In fact, I'll accompany yotoin the bar
-- and no half measures!
(Dunno what went wrong there. Should have read 'you to'. Must be the
prospect of a bar getting to me.)
Something with a hoppy notes?
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Peter Young
2019-12-16 21:10:56 UTC
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 20:42:38 +0000, Katy Jennison
Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.
Staving off the scaling back of the thread, I see.
He is in big treble now.
I am abased.

Peter.
--
Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Hg)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Mack A. Damia
2019-12-16 22:28:27 UTC
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Post by Peter Young
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 20:42:38 +0000, Katy Jennison
Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ ? ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.
Staving off the scaling back of the thread, I see.
He is in big treble now.
I am abased.
With that comment you deserve a kick in the bass.
John Varela
2019-12-17 21:47:56 UTC
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 22:28:27 UTC, Mack A. Damia
Post by Mack A. Damia
Post by Peter Young
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 20:42:38 +0000, Katy Jennison
Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ ? ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.
Staving off the scaling back of the thread, I see.
He is in big treble now.
I am abased.
With that comment you deserve a kick in the bass.
Hautbois, I'd like to see that.
--
John Varela
occam
2020-01-17 11:51:58 UTC
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Post by John Varela
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 22:28:27 UTC, Mack A. Damia
Post by Mack A. Damia
Post by Peter Young
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 20:42:38 +0000, Katy Jennison
Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ ? ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.
Staving off the scaling back of the thread, I see.
He is in big treble now.
I am abased.
With that comment you deserve a kick in the bass.
Hautbois, I'd like to see that.
I am now wondering if this run of puns was orchestrated or just
improvised, and whether has it reached its crescendo yet?
Sam Plusnet
2019-12-18 00:10:12 UTC
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Post by Peter Young
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 20:42:38 +0000, Katy Jennison
Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.
Staving off the scaling back of the thread, I see.
He is in big treble now.
I am abased.
Well well! As I live and breve.
--
Sam Plusnet
Ken Blake
2019-12-16 21:30:40 UTC
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Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.
Staving off the scaling back of the thread, I see.
What a thing to say about A minor.
--
Ken
Peter T. Daniels
2019-12-16 22:37:12 UTC
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Post by Peter Young
Post by Peter Young
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Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
That's rather a sharp comment.
That's caught me in a cleft stick.
Has she got you quavering? or are you just being crotchety?
s***@gmail.com
2019-12-16 22:58:33 UTC
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Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether she
wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
Timbre! And another one bites the dust!

/dps
Kerr-Mudd,John
2019-12-17 10:31:56 UTC
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Post by Peter Young
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Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just
featuring th
is
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ 
 ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether
she wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
Timbre! And another one bites the dust!
Let's play some soothing music before we get too beastly; anyone for tea?
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Katy Jennison
2019-12-17 14:01:59 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just
featuring th
is
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether
she wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
Timbre! And another one bites the dust!
Let's play some soothing music before we get too beastly; anyone for tea?
Yes please, preferably at one of those places with a piano.
--
Katy Jennison
Mack A. Damia
2019-12-17 16:35:55 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
Post by s***@gmail.com
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just
featuring th
is
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ … ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether
she wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
Timbre! And another one bites the dust!
Let's play some soothing music before we get too beastly; anyone for tea?
Yes please, preferably at one of those places with a piano.
Listen to Chopin's "Tristesse" to soothe thy savage breast:


Kerr-Mudd,John
2019-12-17 17:25:42 UTC
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Post by Peter Young
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I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just
featuring th
is
Post by Peter Young
Post by RH Draney
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
[ 
 ]
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
She's the composer, so she'd be the one who should decide whether
she wants to sound natural or accidental....r
I think that may fall flat.
Timbre! And another one bites the dust!
Let's play some soothing music before we get too beastly; anyone for tea?
Yes please, preferably at one of those places with a piano.
http://youtu.be/8yjnLmv1hHU
What's the backing group for?
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Quinn C
2019-12-17 22:49:20 UTC
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Post by Mack A. Damia
http://youtu.be/8yjnLmv1hHU
I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.

Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g.

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Mack A. Damia
2019-12-17 23:50:11 UTC
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On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 17:49:20 -0500, Quinn C
Post by Quinn C
Post by Mack A. Damia
http://youtu.be/8yjnLmv1hHU
I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I posted Lang Lang's for affect. Sadness has passion. Sadness gets
interpersonally transformed into anger, too, so there is the rage.

Many good versions. I like this one as well:



I played the piece on a cheap record player a lot when I was a child.
A family friends gave me dozens of 78s. I never know it meant,
"sadness". I thought it was very serene and passionate.
b***@shaw.ca
2019-12-18 00:28:59 UTC
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Post by Quinn C
Post by Mack A. Damia
http://youtu.be/8yjnLmv1hHU
I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I have been told that Lang Lang specializes in loud, crashing
piano playing. A friend who goes to a lot of recitals and has seen him
several times calls him Bang Bang.

bill
Mack A. Damia
2019-12-18 00:38:39 UTC
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Post by Quinn C
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http://youtu.be/8yjnLmv1hHU
I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I have been told that Lang Lang specializes in loud, crashing
piano playing. A friend who goes to a lot of recitals and has seen him
several times calls him Bang Bang.
I have never read anything about his "loudness" and "crashing". Are
you confusing him with another?

In April 2009, when Time Magazine included Lang in its list of the 100
most influential people, Herbie Hancock described his playing as "so
sensitive and so deeply human", commenting: "You hear him play, and he
never ceases to touch your heart."
Snidely
2020-01-14 08:25:50 UTC
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http://youtu.be/8yjnLmv1hHU
I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I have been told that Lang Lang specializes in loud, crashing
piano playing. A friend who goes to a lot of recitals and has seen him
several times calls him Bang Bang.
I have never read anything about his "loudness" and "crashing". Are
you confusing him with another?
In April 2009, when Time Magazine included Lang in its list of the 100
most influential people, Herbie Hancock described his playing as "so
sensitive and so deeply human", commenting: "You hear him play, and he
never ceases to touch your heart."
Other people have called him "Bang-Bang" as well. He has a lot of
not-fans. He's just back from an extended stand-down due to hand
injury.

One thing I have heard in his favor is that when he's at a festival or
event where other high-rated pianists are also present, he seeks out
mentoring, especially from the previous generation.

Many people prefer Yuja Wang, and not just because of her wardrobe.
And there are other young pianists who look to have staying power.


/dps
--
"I am not given to exaggeration, and when I say a thing I mean it"
_Roughing It_, Mark Twain
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I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I have been told that Lang Lang specializes in loud, crashing
piano playing. A friend who goes to a lot of recitals and has seen him
several times calls him Bang Bang.
I have never read anything about his "loudness" and "crashing". Are
you confusing him with another?
In April 2009, when Time Magazine included Lang in its list of the 100
most influential people, Herbie Hancock described his playing as "so
sensitive and so deeply human", commenting: "You hear him play, and he
never ceases to touch your heart."
Other people have called him "Bang-Bang" as well. He has a lot of
not-fans. He's just back from an extended stand-down due to hand
injury.
Don't come on with that bullshit, M8E. Supply references. Otherwise
you are merely playing pissing games.
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I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I have been told that Lang Lang specializes in loud, crashing
piano playing. A friend who goes to a lot of recitals and has seen him
several times calls him Bang Bang.
I have never read anything about his "loudness" and "crashing". Are
you confusing him with another?
In April 2009, when Time Magazine included Lang in its list of the 100
most influential people, Herbie Hancock described his playing as "so
sensitive and so deeply human", commenting: "You hear him play, and he
never ceases to touch your heart."
Other people have called him "Bang-Bang" as well. He has a lot of
not-fans. He's just back from an extended stand-down due to hand
injury.
Don't come on with that bullshit, M8E. Supply references. Otherwise
you are merely playing pissing games.
My bladder is fine.

This is from TONG, although some names may be recognizable.
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It must have been his lack of flamboyance.
The real question, though, is "is he a pianist?"
I'd have thought so, why not?
He's started playing some of the sonata stuff lately, without the
bombast. It's ok, but he's no Brendel, though
My friend who goes to a lot of piano recitals and has seen Lang Lang a
couple of times is critical of his technique, says he just bangs the
keyboard as hard as he can.
That's why he's aka Bang-Bang. But, as I suggested he seems to be
getting a little more finesse nowadays
One KUSC host has promised to never play a Lang Lang recording
(I don't think any of the others have refused to,
but they also slip in Karl Jenkins from time to time).
I don't think said host has said "Bang Bang" on the air,
but I doubt he'd hesitate to agree.

As for the stand-down, it affected the calendar of
The Philharmonic Society of Orange County,
for a local reference,
and also at least one festival (I forget which one,
but it was relatively short notice).
Hand injury was mentioned in the announcements
as the reason for the cancellations.

/dps

/dps
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http://youtu.be/8yjnLmv1hHU
I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I have been told that Lang Lang specializes in loud, crashing
piano playing. A friend who goes to a lot of recitals and has seen him
several times calls him Bang Bang.
I have never read anything about his "loudness" and "crashing". Are
you confusing him with another?
In April 2009, when Time Magazine included Lang in its list of the 100
most influential people, Herbie Hancock described his playing as "so
sensitive and so deeply human", commenting: "You hear him play, and he
never ceases to touch your heart."
Other people have called him "Bang-Bang" as well. He has a lot of
not-fans. He's just back from an extended stand-down due to hand
injury.
Don't come on with that bullshit, M8E. Supply references. Otherwise
you are merely playing pissing games.
My bladder is fine.
This is from TONG, although some names may be recognizable.
Post by Mack A. Damia
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Post by Quinn C
It must have been his lack of flamboyance.
The real question, though, is "is he a pianist?"
I'd have thought so, why not?
He's started playing some of the sonata stuff lately, without the
bombast. It's ok, but he's no Brendel, though
My friend who goes to a lot of piano recitals and has seen Lang Lang a
couple of times is critical of his technique, says he just bangs the
keyboard as hard as he can.
That's why he's aka Bang-Bang. But, as I suggested he seems to be
getting a little more finesse nowadays
One KUSC host has promised to never play a Lang Lang recording
(I don't think any of the others have refused to,
but they also slip in Karl Jenkins from time to time).
I don't think said host has said "Bang Bang" on the air,
but I doubt he'd hesitate to agree.
As for the stand-down, it affected the calendar of
The Philharmonic Society of Orange County,
for a local reference,
and also at least one festival (I forget which one,
but it was relatively short notice).
Hand injury was mentioned in the announcements
as the reason for the cancellations.
It is all nonsense. Lang Lang can play something soft and tender as
well as he can pound the keys as in 'forte'.

It is matters of following the leader and jealousy. One critic is in
a bad mood, writes an unflattering review, and all the wannabe follow
suit.

You only have to listen to him to know the truth. Do you even play
the piano? Don't be pretentious.
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http://youtu.be/8yjnLmv1hHU
I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I have been told that Lang Lang specializes in loud, crashing
piano playing. A friend who goes to a lot of recitals and has seen him
several times calls him Bang Bang.
I have never read anything about his "loudness" and "crashing". Are
you confusing him with another?
In April 2009, when Time Magazine included Lang in its list of the 100
most influential people, Herbie Hancock described his playing as "so
sensitive and so deeply human", commenting: "You hear him play, and he
never ceases to touch your heart."
Other people have called him "Bang-Bang" as well. He has a lot of
not-fans. He's just back from an extended stand-down due to hand
injury.
Don't come on with that bullshit, M8E. Supply references. Otherwise
you are merely playing pissing games.
My bladder is fine.
This is from TONG, although some names may be recognizable.
[and quotes a line of a previous post by BT]
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It must have been his lack of flamboyance.
The real question, though, is "is he a pianist?"
I'd have thought so, why not?
He's started playing some of the sonata stuff lately, without the
bombast. It's ok, but he's no Brendel, though
My friend who goes to a lot of piano recitals and has seen Lang Lang a
couple of times is critical of his technique, says he just bangs the
keyboard as hard as he can.
That's why he's aka Bang-Bang. But, as I suggested he seems to be
getting a little more finesse nowadays
One KUSC host has promised to never play a Lang Lang recording
(I don't think any of the others have refused to,
but they also slip in Karl Jenkins from time to time).
I don't think said host has said "Bang Bang" on the air,
but I doubt he'd hesitate to agree.
As for the stand-down, it affected the calendar of
The Philharmonic Society of Orange County,
for a local reference,
and also at least one festival (I forget which one,
but it was relatively short notice).
Hand injury was mentioned in the announcements
as the reason for the cancellations.
It is all nonsense. Lang Lang can play something soft and tender as
well as he can pound the keys as in 'forte'.
It is matters of following the leader and jealousy. One critic is in
a bad mood, writes an unflattering review, and all the wannabe follow
suit.
You only have to listen to him to know the truth. Do you even play
the piano? Don't be pretentious.
You assume facts not in evidence. Don't be presumptuous.

The tack-away from my post should be that:
There Are People Who Refer to Lang Lang As Bang Bang
And Feel That Nickname Is Appropriate.

(My opinion is unstated, although I was snarky in asking the "real" question.)

/dps
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I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I have been told that Lang Lang specializes in loud, crashing
piano playing. A friend who goes to a lot of recitals and has seen him
several times calls him Bang Bang.
I have never read anything about his "loudness" and "crashing". Are
you confusing him with another?
In April 2009, when Time Magazine included Lang in its list of the 100
most influential people, Herbie Hancock described his playing as "so
sensitive and so deeply human", commenting: "You hear him play, and he
never ceases to touch your heart."
Other people have called him "Bang-Bang" as well. He has a lot of
not-fans. He's just back from an extended stand-down due to hand
injury.
Don't come on with that bullshit, M8E. Supply references. Otherwise
you are merely playing pissing games.
My bladder is fine.
This is from TONG, although some names may be recognizable.
[and quotes a line of a previous post by BT]
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It must have been his lack of flamboyance.
The real question, though, is "is he a pianist?"
I'd have thought so, why not?
He's started playing some of the sonata stuff lately, without the
bombast. It's ok, but he's no Brendel, though
My friend who goes to a lot of piano recitals and has seen Lang Lang a
couple of times is critical of his technique, says he just bangs the
keyboard as hard as he can.
That's why he's aka Bang-Bang. But, as I suggested he seems to be
getting a little more finesse nowadays
One KUSC host has promised to never play a Lang Lang recording
(I don't think any of the others have refused to,
but they also slip in Karl Jenkins from time to time).
I don't think said host has said "Bang Bang" on the air,
but I doubt he'd hesitate to agree.
As for the stand-down, it affected the calendar of
The Philharmonic Society of Orange County,
for a local reference,
and also at least one festival (I forget which one,
but it was relatively short notice).
Hand injury was mentioned in the announcements
as the reason for the cancellations.
It is all nonsense. Lang Lang can play something soft and tender as
well as he can pound the keys as in 'forte'.
It is matters of following the leader and jealousy. One critic is in
a bad mood, writes an unflattering review, and all the wannabe follow
suit.
You only have to listen to him to know the truth. Do you even play
the piano? Don't be pretentious.
You assume facts not in evidence. Don't be presumptuous.
There Are People Who Refer to Lang Lang As Bang Bang
And Feel That Nickname Is Appropriate.
It is a nickname invented by one jealous turd, and the other farts
just followed his/her lead.
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(My opinion is unstated, although I was snarky in asking the "real" question.)
Don't be pretentious. You are not qualified to denigrate genius.
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I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I have been told that Lang Lang specializes in loud, crashing
piano playing. A friend who goes to a lot of recitals and has seen him
several times calls him Bang Bang.
I have never read anything about his "loudness" and "crashing". Are
you confusing him with another?
In April 2009, when Time Magazine included Lang in its list of the 100
most influential people, Herbie Hancock described his playing as "so
sensitive and so deeply human", commenting: "You hear him play, and he
never ceases to touch your heart."
Other people have called him "Bang-Bang" as well. He has a lot of
not-fans. He's just back from an extended stand-down due to hand
injury.
Don't come on with that bullshit, M8E. Supply references. Otherwise
you are merely playing pissing games.
My bladder is fine.
This is from TONG, although some names may be recognizable.
[and quotes a line of a previous post by BT]
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It must have been his lack of flamboyance.
The real question, though, is "is he a pianist?"
I'd have thought so, why not?
He's started playing some of the sonata stuff lately, without the
bombast. It's ok, but he's no Brendel, though
My friend who goes to a lot of piano recitals and has seen Lang Lang a
couple of times is critical of his technique, says he just bangs the
keyboard as hard as he can.
That's why he's aka Bang-Bang. But, as I suggested he seems to be
getting a little more finesse nowadays
One KUSC host has promised to never play a Lang Lang recording
(I don't think any of the others have refused to,
but they also slip in Karl Jenkins from time to time).
I don't think said host has said "Bang Bang" on the air,
but I doubt he'd hesitate to agree.
As for the stand-down, it affected the calendar of
The Philharmonic Society of Orange County,
for a local reference,
and also at least one festival (I forget which one,
but it was relatively short notice).
Hand injury was mentioned in the announcements
as the reason for the cancellations.
It is all nonsense. Lang Lang can play something soft and tender as
well as he can pound the keys as in 'forte'.
It is matters of following the leader and jealousy. One critic is in
a bad mood, writes an unflattering review, and all the wannabe follow
suit.
You only have to listen to him to know the truth. Do you even play
the piano? Don't be pretentious.
You assume facts not in evidence. Don't be presumptuous.
There Are People Who Refer to Lang Lang As Bang Bang
And Feel That Nickname Is Appropriate.
It is a nickname invented by one jealous turd, and the other farts
just followed his/her lead.
Unsupported.
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(My opinion is unstated, although I was snarky in asking the "real" question.)
Don't be pretentious. You are not qualified to denigrate genius.
You, sir, need some help with reading comprehension.

/dps
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I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I have been told that Lang Lang specializes in loud, crashing
piano playing. A friend who goes to a lot of recitals and has seen him
several times calls him Bang Bang.
I have never read anything about his "loudness" and "crashing". Are
you confusing him with another?
In April 2009, when Time Magazine included Lang in its list of the 100
most influential people, Herbie Hancock described his playing as "so
sensitive and so deeply human", commenting: "You hear him play, and he
never ceases to touch your heart."
Other people have called him "Bang-Bang" as well. He has a lot of
not-fans. He's just back from an extended stand-down due to hand
injury.
Don't come on with that bullshit, M8E. Supply references. Otherwise
you are merely playing pissing games.
My bladder is fine.
This is from TONG, although some names may be recognizable.
[and quotes a line of a previous post by BT]
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It must have been his lack of flamboyance.
The real question, though, is "is he a pianist?"
I'd have thought so, why not?
He's started playing some of the sonata stuff lately, without the
bombast. It's ok, but he's no Brendel, though
My friend who goes to a lot of piano recitals and has seen Lang Lang a
couple of times is critical of his technique, says he just bangs the
keyboard as hard as he can.
That's why he's aka Bang-Bang. But, as I suggested he seems to be
getting a little more finesse nowadays
One KUSC host has promised to never play a Lang Lang recording
(I don't think any of the others have refused to,
but they also slip in Karl Jenkins from time to time).
I don't think said host has said "Bang Bang" on the air,
but I doubt he'd hesitate to agree.
As for the stand-down, it affected the calendar of
The Philharmonic Society of Orange County,
for a local reference,
and also at least one festival (I forget which one,
but it was relatively short notice).
Hand injury was mentioned in the announcements
as the reason for the cancellations.
It is all nonsense. Lang Lang can play something soft and tender as
well as he can pound the keys as in 'forte'.
It is matters of following the leader and jealousy. One critic is in
a bad mood, writes an unflattering review, and all the wannabe follow
suit.
You only have to listen to him to know the truth. Do you even play
the piano? Don't be pretentious.
You assume facts not in evidence. Don't be presumptuous.
There Are People Who Refer to Lang Lang As Bang Bang
And Feel That Nickname Is Appropriate.
It is a nickname invented by one jealous turd, and the other farts
just followed his/her lead.
Unsupported.
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(My opinion is unstated, although I was snarky in asking the "real" question.)
Don't be pretentious. You are not qualified to denigrate genius.
You, sir, need some help with reading comprehension.
You, madam, need some help in understanding others' motives including
your own.
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I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I have been told that Lang Lang specializes in loud, crashing
piano playing. A friend who goes to a lot of recitals and has seen him
several times calls him Bang Bang.
I have never read anything about his "loudness" and "crashing". Are
you confusing him with another?
In April 2009, when Time Magazine included Lang in its list of the 100
most influential people, Herbie Hancock described his playing as "so
sensitive and so deeply human", commenting: "You hear him play, and he
never ceases to touch your heart."
Other people have called him "Bang-Bang" as well. He has a lot of
not-fans. He's just back from an extended stand-down due to hand
injury.
Don't come on with that bullshit, M8E. Supply references. Otherwise
you are merely playing pissing games.
My bladder is fine.
This is from TONG, although some names may be recognizable.
[and quotes a line of a previous post by BT]
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It must have been his lack of flamboyance.
The real question, though, is "is he a pianist?"
I'd have thought so, why not?
He's started playing some of the sonata stuff lately, without the
bombast. It's ok, but he's no Brendel, though
My friend who goes to a lot of piano recitals and has seen Lang Lang a
couple of times is critical of his technique, says he just bangs the
keyboard as hard as he can.
That's why he's aka Bang-Bang. But, as I suggested he seems to be
getting a little more finesse nowadays
One KUSC host has promised to never play a Lang Lang recording
(I don't think any of the others have refused to,
but they also slip in Karl Jenkins from time to time).
I don't think said host has said "Bang Bang" on the air,
but I doubt he'd hesitate to agree.
As for the stand-down, it affected the calendar of
The Philharmonic Society of Orange County,
for a local reference,
and also at least one festival (I forget which one,
but it was relatively short notice).
Hand injury was mentioned in the announcements
as the reason for the cancellations.
It is all nonsense. Lang Lang can play something soft and tender as
well as he can pound the keys as in 'forte'.
It is matters of following the leader and jealousy. One critic is in
a bad mood, writes an unflattering review, and all the wannabe follow
suit.
You only have to listen to him to know the truth. Do you even play
the piano? Don't be pretentious.
You assume facts not in evidence. Don't be presumptuous.
There Are People Who Refer to Lang Lang As Bang Bang
And Feel That Nickname Is Appropriate.
It is a nickname invented by one jealous turd, and the other farts
just followed his/her lead.
Unsupported.
Post by Mack A. Damia
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(My opinion is unstated, although I was snarky in asking the "real" question.)
Don't be pretentious. You are not qualified to denigrate genius.
You, sir, need some help with reading comprehension.
You, madam, need some help in understanding others' motives including
your own.
My motivation in entering this part of the thread to was to show that
the nickname "Bang Bang" was not just the usage of an isolated individual.

Your motivation in being so vituperative when someone disagrees with your opinion?
I'm having a harder time reading that.

And these critics don't sound like they were just chorusing a popular meme:
<URL:https://slippedisc.com/2015/12/lang-lang-gets-hammered-in-london/>
(December 4, 2015)

[I will defer to our Brits for an evaluation of the individual reviewers in that list.]

Clearly some people think that Lang Lang has improved since his stand-down
(and marriage).

<URL:https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/lang-lang-puts-poetry-above-pageantry-at-mso-mid-season-gala-20190705-p524f8.html>
(July 4, 2019)

(<URL:https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/classical-music/pianist-lang-lang-once-dubbed-bang-bang-for-his-flashy-technique-brings-exquisite-refinement-to-seattle-symphony-concert/>
(Oct 10, 2019)

And I was the one who reported that Lang Lang sought out mentors whenever he had the chance.

Clearly Lang Lang has star power. Would I rate him as a genius?
That depends on how I think he rates against such other pianists as
Yundi, Yuja Wang, Shai Wosner,
Valentina Lisitsa, Angela Hewitt, Helene Grimaud, Olga Kern,
(that's approximately Lang Lang's generation)
Simpone Dinnerstein, Jonathon Bliss, Stephen Hough, Marc-Andre Hamelin,
Lief Ove Andsnes, Jon Kimura Parker, Orli Shaham, Kieth Jarrett,
Adras Schiff, Evgeny Kissin, Garrick Ohlsson, Jean-Yves Thibaudet,
Mitsuko Uchida, Wu Han, Maurizio Polini, Murray Perahia, Joshua Rifkin,
Christoph Eschenbach, Gerhard Oppitz, Leon Fleisher,
Martha Argerich, Daniel Barenboim, Andre Previn,
Claudio Arrau, Alicia de Larrocha, Glenn Gould, Emil Gilels.

And yes, some of those names go with people I've heard in person
in live concerts. I suspect that between the members of AUE
(that is, RRs and other frequent posters)
just about all of those have been heard in person by at least one of us.

I hope your anger management program is successful.

/dps
RH Draney
2020-01-17 09:11:59 UTC
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Clearly Lang Lang has star power. Would I rate him as a genius?
That depends on how I think he rates against such other pianists as
Yundi, Yuja Wang, Shai Wosner,
Valentina Lisitsa, Angela Hewitt, Helene Grimaud, Olga Kern,
(that's approximately Lang Lang's generation)
Simpone Dinnerstein, Jonathon Bliss, Stephen Hough, Marc-Andre Hamelin,
Lief Ove Andsnes, Jon Kimura Parker, Orli Shaham, Kieth Jarrett,
Adras Schiff, Evgeny Kissin, Garrick Ohlsson, Jean-Yves Thibaudet,
Mitsuko Uchida, Wu Han, Maurizio Polini, Murray Perahia, Joshua Rifkin,
Christoph Eschenbach, Gerhard Oppitz, Leon Fleisher,
Martha Argerich, Daniel Barenboim, Andre Previn,
Claudio Arrau, Alicia de Larrocha, Glenn Gould, Emil Gilels.
You left out Van Cliburn!...r
Peter T. Daniels
2020-01-17 15:52:32 UTC
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Clearly Lang Lang has star power. Would I rate him as a genius?
That depends on how I think he rates against such other pianists as
Yundi, Yuja Wang, Shai Wosner,
Valentina Lisitsa, Angela Hewitt, Helene Grimaud, Olga Kern,
(that's approximately Lang Lang's generation)
Simpone Dinnerstein, Jonathon Bliss, Stephen Hough, Marc-Andre Hamelin,
Lief Ove Andsnes, Jon Kimura Parker, Orli Shaham, Kieth Jarrett,
Adras Schiff, Evgeny Kissin, Garrick Ohlsson, Jean-Yves Thibaudet,
Mitsuko Uchida, Wu Han, Maurizio Polini, Murray Perahia, Joshua Rifkin,
Christoph Eschenbach, Gerhard Oppitz, Leon Fleisher,
Martha Argerich, Daniel Barenboim, Andre Previn,
Claudio Arrau, Alicia de Larrocha, Glenn Gould, Emil Gilels.
You left out Van Cliburn!...r
I think he was listing ones with some claim to high status. Also Ax.
(Who would bring my total to 6.) And Feltsman (7), but only because
he brought his Bach sensibility to, of all things, the Emperor Concerto.
s***@gmail.com
2020-01-17 22:10:06 UTC
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Clearly Lang Lang has star power. Would I rate him as a genius?
That depends on how I think he rates against such other pianists as
Yundi, Yuja Wang, Shai Wosner,
Valentina Lisitsa, Angela Hewitt, Helene Grimaud, Olga Kern,
(that's approximately Lang Lang's generation)
Simpone Dinnerstein, Jonathon Bliss, Stephen Hough, Marc-Andre Hamelin,
Lief Ove Andsnes, Jon Kimura Parker, Orli Shaham, Kieth Jarrett,
Adras Schiff, Evgeny Kissin, Garrick Ohlsson, Jean-Yves Thibaudet,
Mitsuko Uchida, Wu Han, Maurizio Polini, Murray Perahia, Joshua Rifkin,
Christoph Eschenbach, Gerhard Oppitz, Leon Fleisher,
Martha Argerich, Daniel Barenboim, Andre Previn,
Claudio Arrau, Alicia de Larrocha, Glenn Gould, Emil Gilels.
You left out Van Cliburn!...r
Maybe I'll add Joyce Yang, who is a Van Cliburn silver medalist.
(Olga Kern was a co-gold, Jon Nakmatsu was gold, Andre-Michel Schub was gold,
as were Christina Ortiz , Radu Lupu, and Steven De Groote.
Barry Douglas was a bronze medalist.)

/dps
Mack A. Damia
2020-01-17 10:46:35 UTC
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http://youtu.be/8yjnLmv1hHU
I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
Lang Lang put a good bit of rage into the "sadness", so I don't know if
that's the best soother. I prefer myself a more traditional
interpretation, e.g. http://youtu.be/8ltXHzqEVpk
I have been told that Lang Lang specializes in loud, crashing
piano playing. A friend who goes to a lot of recitals and has seen him
several times calls him Bang Bang.
I have never read anything about his "loudness" and "crashing". Are
you confusing him with another?
In April 2009, when Time Magazine included Lang in its list of the 100
most influential people, Herbie Hancock described his playing as "so
sensitive and so deeply human", commenting: "You hear him play, and he
never ceases to touch your heart."
Other people have called him "Bang-Bang" as well. He has a lot of
not-fans. He's just back from an extended stand-down due to hand
injury.
Don't come on with that bullshit, M8E. Supply references. Otherwise
you are merely playing pissing games.
My bladder is fine.
This is from TONG, although some names may be recognizable.
[and quotes a line of a previous post by BT]
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It must have been his lack of flamboyance.
The real question, though, is "is he a pianist?"
I'd have thought so, why not?
He's started playing some of the sonata stuff lately, without the
bombast. It's ok, but he's no Brendel, though
My friend who goes to a lot of piano recitals and has seen Lang Lang a
couple of times is critical of his technique, says he just bangs the
keyboard as hard as he can.
That's why he's aka Bang-Bang. But, as I suggested he seems to be
getting a little more finesse nowadays
One KUSC host has promised to never play a Lang Lang recording
(I don't think any of the others have refused to,
but they also slip in Karl Jenkins from time to time).
I don't think said host has said "Bang Bang" on the air,
but I doubt he'd hesitate to agree.
As for the stand-down, it affected the calendar of
The Philharmonic Society of Orange County,
for a local reference,
and also at least one festival (I forget which one,
but it was relatively short notice).
Hand injury was mentioned in the announcements
as the reason for the cancellations.
It is all nonsense. Lang Lang can play something soft and tender as
well as he can pound the keys as in 'forte'.
It is matters of following the leader and jealousy. One critic is in
a bad mood, writes an unflattering review, and all the wannabe follow
suit.
You only have to listen to him to know the truth. Do you even play
the piano? Don't be pretentious.
You assume facts not in evidence. Don't be presumptuous.
There Are People Who Refer to Lang Lang As Bang Bang
And Feel That Nickname Is Appropriate.
It is a nickname invented by one jealous turd, and the other farts
just followed his/her lead.
Unsupported.
Post by Mack A. Damia
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(My opinion is unstated, although I was snarky in asking the "real" question.)
Don't be pretentious. You are not qualified to denigrate genius.
You, sir, need some help with reading comprehension.
You, madam, need some help in understanding others' motives including
your own.
My motivation in entering this part of the thread to was to show that
the nickname "Bang Bang" was not just the usage of an isolated individual.
Bullshit.

You replied to an almost four week old thread, and your contentious
post reeked of pretension. Why would you do that?

It was a cascade of puns up to a point, and then I posted Lang-Lang
playing Chopin for Katy, and Bill mentioned that a friend called him
"Bang-Bang". One sour-grapes critic called him that, and then the
lesser-mortals picked up on it. Such as you. You picked up on it and
your paleomammalian cortex kicked in. You are a reptile.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Your motivation in being so vituperative when someone disagrees with your opinion?
I'm having a harder time reading that.
With you, yes.
Post by s***@gmail.com
<URL:https://slippedisc.com/2015/12/lang-lang-gets-hammered-in-london/>
(December 4, 2015)
[I will defer to our Brits for an evaluation of the individual reviewers in that list.]
Clearly some people think that Lang Lang has improved since his stand-down
(and marriage).
<URL:https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/lang-lang-puts-poetry-above-pageantry-at-mso-mid-season-gala-20190705-p524f8.html>
(July 4, 2019)
(<URL:https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/classical-music/pianist-lang-lang-once-dubbed-bang-bang-for-his-flashy-technique-brings-exquisite-refinement-to-seattle-symphony-concert/>
(Oct 10, 2019)
And I was the one who reported that Lang Lang sought out mentors whenever he had the chance.
Clearly Lang Lang has star power. Would I rate him as a genius?
That depends on how I think he rates against such other pianists as
Yundi, Yuja Wang, Shai Wosner,
Valentina Lisitsa, Angela Hewitt, Helene Grimaud, Olga Kern,
(that's approximately Lang Lang's generation)
Simpone Dinnerstein, Jonathon Bliss, Stephen Hough, Marc-Andre Hamelin,
Lief Ove Andsnes, Jon Kimura Parker, Orli Shaham, Kieth Jarrett,
Adras Schiff, Evgeny Kissin, Garrick Ohlsson, Jean-Yves Thibaudet,
Mitsuko Uchida, Wu Han, Maurizio Polini, Murray Perahia, Joshua Rifkin,
Christoph Eschenbach, Gerhard Oppitz, Leon Fleisher,
Martha Argerich, Daniel Barenboim, Andre Previn,
Claudio Arrau, Alicia de Larrocha, Glenn Gould, Emil Gilels.
And yes, some of those names go with people I've heard in person
in live concerts. I suspect that between the members of AUE
(that is, RRs and other frequent posters)
just about all of those have been heard in person by at least one of us.
I hope your anger management program is successful.
You are a spiteful person, and you never disappoint. I have been
posting here for many years now, and I have observed your rancor many
times.

The proof of this is the irrelevant research you have gone to in your
vindictiveness (above). You are merely a pretentious and a contentious
prick. A little man.
Peter T. Daniels
2020-01-17 15:55:38 UTC
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Bullshit.
You replied to an almost four week old thread, and your contentious
post reeked of pretension. Why would you do that?
It was a cascade of puns up to a point, and then I posted Lang-Lang
playing Chopin for Katy, and Bill mentioned that a friend called him
"Bang-Bang". One sour-grapes critic called him that, and then the
lesser-mortals picked up on it. Such as you. You picked up on it and
your paleomammalian cortex kicked in. You are a reptile.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Your motivation in being so vituperative when someone disagrees with your opinion?
I'm having a harder time reading that.
With you, yes.
Post by s***@gmail.com
<URL:https://slippedisc.com/2015/12/lang-lang-gets-hammered-in-london/>
(December 4, 2015)
[I will defer to our Brits for an evaluation of the individual reviewers in that list.]
Clearly some people think that Lang Lang has improved since his stand-down
(and marriage).
<URL:https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/lang-lang-puts-poetry-above-pageantry-at-mso-mid-season-gala-20190705-p524f8.html>
(July 4, 2019)
(<URL:https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/classical-music/pianist-lang-lang-once-dubbed-bang-bang-for-his-flashy-technique-brings-exquisite-refinement-to-seattle-symphony-concert/>
(Oct 10, 2019)
And I was the one who reported that Lang Lang sought out mentors whenever he had the chance.
Clearly Lang Lang has star power. Would I rate him as a genius?
That depends on how I think he rates against such other pianists as
Yundi, Yuja Wang, Shai Wosner,
Valentina Lisitsa, Angela Hewitt, Helene Grimaud, Olga Kern,
(that's approximately Lang Lang's generation)
Simpone Dinnerstein, Jonathon Bliss, Stephen Hough, Marc-Andre Hamelin,
Lief Ove Andsnes, Jon Kimura Parker, Orli Shaham, Kieth Jarrett,
Adras Schiff, Evgeny Kissin, Garrick Ohlsson, Jean-Yves Thibaudet,
Mitsuko Uchida, Wu Han, Maurizio Polini, Murray Perahia, Joshua Rifkin,
Christoph Eschenbach, Gerhard Oppitz, Leon Fleisher,
Martha Argerich, Daniel Barenboim, Andre Previn,
Claudio Arrau, Alicia de Larrocha, Glenn Gould, Emil Gilels.
And yes, some of those names go with people I've heard in person
in live concerts. I suspect that between the members of AUE
(that is, RRs and other frequent posters)
just about all of those have been heard in person by at least one of us.
I hope your anger management program is successful.
You are a spiteful person, and you never disappoint. I have been
posting here for many years now, and I have observed your rancor many
times.
The proof of this is the irrelevant research you have gone to in your
vindictiveness (above). You are merely a pretentious and a contentious
prick. A little man.
This is the mode that I have had occasion to refer to as "Which is it,
off the meds or on the sauce?"

Mr. Whiplash is one of the most even-tempered and entertaining posters
in this Group. Mr. Damia has his spells.
Mack A. Damia
2020-01-17 16:02:35 UTC
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[stuff]
Post by Mack A. Damia
Bullshit.
You replied to an almost four week old thread, and your contentious
post reeked of pretension. Why would you do that?
It was a cascade of puns up to a point, and then I posted Lang-Lang
playing Chopin for Katy, and Bill mentioned that a friend called him
"Bang-Bang". One sour-grapes critic called him that, and then the
lesser-mortals picked up on it. Such as you. You picked up on it and
your paleomammalian cortex kicked in. You are a reptile.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Your motivation in being so vituperative when someone disagrees with your opinion?
I'm having a harder time reading that.
With you, yes.
Post by s***@gmail.com
<URL:https://slippedisc.com/2015/12/lang-lang-gets-hammered-in-london/>
(December 4, 2015)
[I will defer to our Brits for an evaluation of the individual reviewers in that list.]
Clearly some people think that Lang Lang has improved since his stand-down
(and marriage).
<URL:https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/lang-lang-puts-poetry-above-pageantry-at-mso-mid-season-gala-20190705-p524f8.html>
(July 4, 2019)
(<URL:https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/classical-music/pianist-lang-lang-once-dubbed-bang-bang-for-his-flashy-technique-brings-exquisite-refinement-to-seattle-symphony-concert/>
(Oct 10, 2019)
And I was the one who reported that Lang Lang sought out mentors whenever he had the chance.
Clearly Lang Lang has star power. Would I rate him as a genius?
That depends on how I think he rates against such other pianists as
Yundi, Yuja Wang, Shai Wosner,
Valentina Lisitsa, Angela Hewitt, Helene Grimaud, Olga Kern,
(that's approximately Lang Lang's generation)
Simpone Dinnerstein, Jonathon Bliss, Stephen Hough, Marc-Andre Hamelin,
Lief Ove Andsnes, Jon Kimura Parker, Orli Shaham, Kieth Jarrett,
Adras Schiff, Evgeny Kissin, Garrick Ohlsson, Jean-Yves Thibaudet,
Mitsuko Uchida, Wu Han, Maurizio Polini, Murray Perahia, Joshua Rifkin,
Christoph Eschenbach, Gerhard Oppitz, Leon Fleisher,
Martha Argerich, Daniel Barenboim, Andre Previn,
Claudio Arrau, Alicia de Larrocha, Glenn Gould, Emil Gilels.
And yes, some of those names go with people I've heard in person
in live concerts. I suspect that between the members of AUE
(that is, RRs and other frequent posters)
just about all of those have been heard in person by at least one of us.
I hope your anger management program is successful.
You are a spiteful person, and you never disappoint. I have been
posting here for many years now, and I have observed your rancor many
times.
The proof of this is the irrelevant research you have gone to in your
vindictiveness (above). You are merely a pretentious and a contentious
prick. A little man.
This is the mode that I have had occasion to refer to as "Which is it,
off the meds or on the sauce?"
Mr. Whiplash is one of the most even-tempered and entertaining posters
in this Group. Mr. Damia has his spells.
Fuck off, Daniels. This is none of your business. Go back to your
brawl with Tony. You are losing, so you have to try to win somewhere
else. God, you're a pathetic worm.
Mack A. Damia
2020-01-17 16:04:41 UTC
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Post by Peter T. Daniels
[stuff]
Post by Mack A. Damia
Bullshit.
You replied to an almost four week old thread, and your contentious
post reeked of pretension. Why would you do that?
It was a cascade of puns up to a point, and then I posted Lang-Lang
playing Chopin for Katy, and Bill mentioned that a friend called him
"Bang-Bang". One sour-grapes critic called him that, and then the
lesser-mortals picked up on it. Such as you. You picked up on it and
your paleomammalian cortex kicked in. You are a reptile.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Your motivation in being so vituperative when someone disagrees with your opinion?
I'm having a harder time reading that.
With you, yes.
Post by s***@gmail.com
<URL:https://slippedisc.com/2015/12/lang-lang-gets-hammered-in-london/>
(December 4, 2015)
[I will defer to our Brits for an evaluation of the individual reviewers in that list.]
Clearly some people think that Lang Lang has improved since his stand-down
(and marriage).
<URL:https://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/lang-lang-puts-poetry-above-pageantry-at-mso-mid-season-gala-20190705-p524f8.html>
(July 4, 2019)
(<URL:https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/classical-music/pianist-lang-lang-once-dubbed-bang-bang-for-his-flashy-technique-brings-exquisite-refinement-to-seattle-symphony-concert/>
(Oct 10, 2019)
And I was the one who reported that Lang Lang sought out mentors whenever he had the chance.
Clearly Lang Lang has star power. Would I rate him as a genius?
That depends on how I think he rates against such other pianists as
Yundi, Yuja Wang, Shai Wosner,
Valentina Lisitsa, Angela Hewitt, Helene Grimaud, Olga Kern,
(that's approximately Lang Lang's generation)
Simpone Dinnerstein, Jonathon Bliss, Stephen Hough, Marc-Andre Hamelin,
Lief Ove Andsnes, Jon Kimura Parker, Orli Shaham, Kieth Jarrett,
Adras Schiff, Evgeny Kissin, Garrick Ohlsson, Jean-Yves Thibaudet,
Mitsuko Uchida, Wu Han, Maurizio Polini, Murray Perahia, Joshua Rifkin,
Christoph Eschenbach, Gerhard Oppitz, Leon Fleisher,
Martha Argerich, Daniel Barenboim, Andre Previn,
Claudio Arrau, Alicia de Larrocha, Glenn Gould, Emil Gilels.
And yes, some of those names go with people I've heard in person
in live concerts. I suspect that between the members of AUE
(that is, RRs and other frequent posters)
just about all of those have been heard in person by at least one of us.
I hope your anger management program is successful.
You are a spiteful person, and you never disappoint. I have been
posting here for many years now, and I have observed your rancor many
times.
The proof of this is the irrelevant research you have gone to in your
vindictiveness (above). You are merely a pretentious and a contentious
prick. A little man.
This is the mode that I have had occasion to refer to as "Which is it,
off the meds or on the sauce?"
Mr. Whiplash is one of the most even-tempered and entertaining posters
in this Group.
We are certain that you put yourself in that category, too, don't you?

We are laughing in your face.
Kerr-Mudd,John
2020-01-17 20:56:09 UTC
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On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 15:43:23 -0800 (PST),
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 00:25:50 -0800, Snidely
On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 16:28:59 -0800 (PST),
On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 at 2:49:24 PM UTC-8,
Post by Mack A. Damia
Listen to Chopin's "Tristesse" to soothe thy savage
[] FFS, after all that's been said about snipping.
Post by Mack A. Damia
You are a spiteful person, and you never disappoint. I have been
posting here for many years now, and I have observed your rancor many
times.
The proof of this is the irrelevant research you have gone to in your
vindictiveness (above). You are merely a pretentious and a contentious
prick. A little man.
Bin time.
--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Mack A. Damia
2020-01-18 00:32:27 UTC
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Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
Post by Mack A. Damia
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 15:43:23 -0800 (PST),
On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 00:25:50 -0800, Snidely
On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 16:28:59 -0800 (PST),
On Tuesday, December 17, 2019 at 2:49:24 PM UTC-8,
Post by Mack A. Damia
Listen to Chopin's "Tristesse" to soothe thy savage
[] FFS, after all that's been said about snipping.
Post by Mack A. Damia
You are a spiteful person, and you never disappoint. I have been
posting here for many years now, and I have observed your rancor many
times.
The proof of this is the irrelevant research you have gone to in your
vindictiveness (above). You are merely a pretentious and a contentious
prick. A little man.
Bin time.
Just the "usual pricks". Notice that as soon as I get into a flame
with somebody, Daniels and the Mudd-toy appear and support my
adversary. Always. A researcher might think, "that's suspicious".

Not only that, but Mudd-toy always ends his posts by indicating the
killfile. Always.

Freaks.
Peter T. Daniels
2020-01-18 15:13:46 UTC
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Post by Mack A. Damia
Just the "usual pricks". Notice that as soon as I get into a flame
with somebody, Daniels and the Mudd-toy appear and support my
adversary. Always. A researcher might think, "that's suspicious".
Not only that, but Mudd-toy always ends his posts by indicating the
killfile. Always.
Freaks.
I offered no opinion whatsoever about whatever you and whoever were
fighting about. I pointed out that once in a while you exhibit weird
and uncharacteristic behavior, which I charitably attribute to
chemical influence and not a personality disorder.
Mack A. Damia
2020-01-18 16:41:36 UTC
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On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 07:13:46 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Mack A. Damia
Just the "usual pricks". Notice that as soon as I get into a flame
with somebody, Daniels and the Mudd-toy appear and support my
adversary. Always. A researcher might think, "that's suspicious".
Not only that, but Mudd-toy always ends his posts by indicating the
killfile. Always.
Freaks.
I offered no opinion whatsoever about whatever you and whoever were
fighting about. I pointed out that once in a while you exhibit weird
and uncharacteristic behavior, which I charitably attribute to
chemical influence and not a personality disorder.
Liar.

You are a god-damned freak, Daniels. Nobody intereferes with your
childish spats with Tony, so why do you feel a need to butt into my
disputes with others? And it is a constant thing.

I know Katy is mentoring you. She needs to do a better job.

Peter T. Daniels
2020-01-17 15:50:20 UTC
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Clearly Lang Lang has star power. Would I rate him as a genius?
That depends on how I think he rates against such other pianists as
Yundi, Yuja Wang, Shai Wosner,
Valentina Lisitsa, Angela Hewitt, Helene Grimaud, Olga Kern,
(that's approximately Lang Lang's generation)
He's older than I thought.
Post by s***@gmail.com
Simpone Dinnerstein, Jonathon Bliss, Stephen Hough, Marc-Andre Hamelin,
Lief Ove Andsnes, Jon Kimura Parker, Orli Shaham, Kieth Jarrett,
Adras Schiff, Evgeny Kissin, Garrick Ohlsson, Jean-Yves Thibaudet,
Mitsuko Uchida, Wu Han, Maurizio Polini, Murray Perahia, Joshua Rifkin,
Christoph Eschenbach, Gerhard Oppitz, Leon Fleisher,
Martha Argerich, Daniel Barenboim, Andre Previn,
Claudio Arrau, Alicia de Larrocha, Glenn Gould, Emil Gilels.
And yes, some of those names go with people I've heard in person
in live concerts. I suspect that between the members of AUE
(that is, RRs and other frequent posters)
just about all of those have been heard in person by at least one of us.
Put me down for five of them (plus at least one as conductor rather
than pianist). If duo-piano recitals count, you _may_ be able to add
a sixth (I'm not sure).
Post by s***@gmail.com
I hope your anger management program is successful.
Jerry Friedman
2019-12-18 16:08:47 UTC
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Post by Quinn C
Post by Mack A. Damia
http://youtu.be/8yjnLmv1hHU
I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
...

I'm not sure it was called "Tristesse" before (*wikips*) one Tino
Rossi adapted it into a popular song of that name in 1939. It's
been given lots of other lyrics too.
--
Jerry Friedman
Mack A. Damia
2019-12-18 16:18:11 UTC
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 08:08:47 -0800 (PST), Jerry Friedman
Post by Jerry Friedman
Post by Quinn C
Post by Mack A. Damia
http://youtu.be/8yjnLmv1hHU
I only clicked on it because I didn't remember which piece someone had
tacked the title "Tristesse" onto.
...
I'm not sure it was called "Tristesse" before (*wikips*) one Tino
Rossi adapted it into a popular song of that name in 1939. It's
been given lots of other lyrics too.
The origin is elusive, but apparently, the name was assigned to the
piece by "contemporary critics" when Chopin composed it.
Kerr-Mudd,John
2019-12-16 21:03:52 UTC
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 10:35:19 GMT, Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
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Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if you want to sound natural.
pshurely it's a they.
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Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
Horace LaBadie
2019-12-16 13:15:02 UTC
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Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
She began playing piano at the age of two, followed by violin at
three. At four she was composing and improvising on the piano, and by
five, had begun writing down her compositions. These first written
notations were unclear, but by six, she could write clear
compositions.
At age six she composed her first piano sonata. At age seven, she
completed a short opera The Sweeper of Dreams. Aged nine, she wrote a
concerto for violin and orchestra. At the age of ten she wrote her
first full-length opera, Cinderella, which had its European premiere
in Vienna in 2016 under the patronage of conductor Zubin Mehta. The
U.S. premiere a year later at Opera San Jose was released on DVD by
Sony Classical. At the age of twelve, Deutscher premiered her first
piano concerto. She gave her debut at Carnegie Hall in December 2019.
Absolutely remarkable and destined for immortality. A Mozart for our
times. I envy her enormous talent.
Watch what she does extemporaneously with *four* random notes at age
http://youtu.be/Nz0OAcYknyw
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Why she and not Steve Allen, who used to do the four-note trick with
audience members who would routinely select the four most widely
separated notes on the piano keyboard?
Mack A. Damia
2019-12-16 18:41:00 UTC
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 08:15:02 -0500, Horace LaBadie
Post by Horace LaBadie
Post by Phil Hobbs
Post by Mack A. Damia
I don't mean this in a nasty way, but NBC News was just featuring this
fourteen year old musical genius, Alma Deutscher.
She began playing piano at the age of two, followed by violin at
three. At four she was composing and improvising on the piano, and by
five, had begun writing down her compositions. These first written
notations were unclear, but by six, she could write clear
compositions.
At age six she composed her first piano sonata. At age seven, she
completed a short opera The Sweeper of Dreams. Aged nine, she wrote a
concerto for violin and orchestra. At the age of ten she wrote her
first full-length opera, Cinderella, which had its European premiere
in Vienna in 2016 under the patronage of conductor Zubin Mehta. The
U.S. premiere a year later at Opera San Jose was released on DVD by
Sony Classical. At the age of twelve, Deutscher premiered her first
piano concerto. She gave her debut at Carnegie Hall in December 2019.
Absolutely remarkable and destined for immortality. A Mozart for our
times. I envy her enormous talent.
Watch what she does extemporaneously with *four* random notes at age
http://youtu.be/Nz0OAcYknyw
Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
Why she and not Steve Allen, who used to do the four-note trick with
audience members who would routinely select the four most widely
separated notes on the piano keyboard?
At twelve years old?

Steve Allen was a musical genius, no doubt - and an entertainment
genius, too, but there is not record of his brilliance when he was a
child.
Janet
2019-12-17 15:08:56 UTC
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Post by Phil Hobbs
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
"Why they and not us", surely.

Janet
Tak To
2019-12-17 17:05:07 UTC
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Post by Phil Hobbs
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Impressive.
Of course, for AUE folks, it should be "Why she and not I?" ;)
Not if the elided question is "Why God flavors her and not
me?"
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Tak
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