Discussion:
Please allow up to 28 days for delivery
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Sam Plusnet
2019-10-22 23:30:45 UTC
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Just that.

Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.

No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.

Why do I bring this up?

Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin (the
old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't ask) and
was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.

Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot imagine
why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
--
Sam Plusnet

p.s. Hedgehogs snore.
steveski
2019-10-22 23:36:25 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin (the
old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't ask) and
was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot imagine
why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
Probably on a slow boat from China . . .
--
Steveski
Sid Nuncius
2019-10-23 05:53:48 UTC
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Post by steveski
Post by Sam Plusnet
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin (the
old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't ask) and
was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot imagine
why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
Probably on a slow boat from China . . .
There was a young man from Bombay
Caught a slow boat to China one day;
He was tied to the tiller
By a sex-starved gorilla -
And China's a bloody long way.

Ay theng yeou. I'm here all week.
--
Sid (Make sure Matron is away when you reply)
Sam Plusnet
2019-10-23 19:00:22 UTC
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Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by steveski
Post by Sam Plusnet
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin (the
old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't ask) and
was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot imagine
why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
Probably on a slow boat from China . . .
There was a young man from Bombay
Caught a slow boat to China one day;
He was tied to the tiller
By a sex-starved gorilla -
And China's a bloody long way.
Ay theng yeou.  I'm here all week.
I remember the Tiller Girls, but the concept of tiller boys is quite new
to me.
--
Sam Plusnet
Anne B
2019-10-26 09:46:37 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by steveski
Post by Sam Plusnet
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin (the
old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't ask) and
was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot imagine
why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
Probably on a slow boat from China . . .
There was a young man from Bombay
Caught a slow boat to China one day;
He was tied to the tiller
By a sex-starved gorilla -
And China's a bloody long way.
Ay theng yeou. I'm here all week.
I remember the Tiller Girls, but the concept of tiller boys is quite new
to me.
It's all part of equality of opportunity for all.

Anne B
Mike
2019-10-23 08:46:06 UTC
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Post by steveski
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin (the
old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't ask) and
was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot imagine
why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
Probably on a slow boat from China . . .
Get you...
--
Toodle Pip
Kate B
2019-10-25 10:34:11 UTC
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Post by steveski
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin (the
old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't ask) and
was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot imagine
why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
Probably on a slow boat from China . . .
Was it forzen when it arrived?
--
Kate B
London
steveski
2019-10-25 10:37:24 UTC
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Post by Kate B
Post by steveski
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere
near the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet
Cottage are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four
or five days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for
more instant gratification.
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin
(the old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't
ask) and was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot
imagine why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
Probably on a slow boat from China . . .
Was it forzen when it arrived?
BTN!
--
Steveski
Sid Nuncius
2019-10-25 17:46:45 UTC
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Post by Kate B
Post by steveski
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere
near the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet
Cottage are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four
or five days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for
more instant gratification.
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin
(the old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't
ask) and was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot
imagine why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
Probably on a slow boat from China . . .
Was it forzen when it arrived?
BTN!
Yes, indeed.
--
Sid (Make sure Matron is away when you reply)
Mike
2019-10-25 17:55:45 UTC
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Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Kate B
Post by steveski
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere
near the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet
Cottage are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four
or five days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for
more instant gratification.
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin
(the old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't
ask) and was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot
imagine why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
Probably on a slow boat from China . . .
Was it forzen when it arrived?
BTN!
Yes, indeed.
Bird’s Eye suggested it too, too late as I hadn’t seen Steveski’s posting
first - sorry!
--
Toodle Pip
Kate B
2019-10-26 11:20:51 UTC
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Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Kate B
Post by steveski
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere
near the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet
Cottage are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four
or five days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for
more instant gratification.
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin
(the old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't
ask) and was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot
imagine why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
Probably on a slow boat from China . . .
Was it forzen when it arrived?
BTN!
Yes, indeed.
Crumbs. My very first BTN. Thank you Steveski, and Toodles as well.

I did debate whether to post it or not. But wickedness won out, as it so
often does...
--
Kate B
London
Mike
2019-10-26 11:25:07 UTC
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Post by Kate B
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Kate B
Post by steveski
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere
near the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet
Cottage are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four
or five days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for
more instant gratification.
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin
(the old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't
ask) and was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot
imagine why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
Probably on a slow boat from China . . .
Was it forzen when it arrived?
BTN!
Yes, indeed.
Crumbs. My very first BTN. Thank you Steveski, and Toodles as well.
I did debate whether to post it or not. But wickedness won out, as it so
often does...
Ooh! Wot wicked Katie did!!!
--
Toodle Pip
Mike
2019-10-25 10:54:41 UTC
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Post by Kate B
Post by steveski
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin (the
old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't ask) and
was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot imagine
why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
Probably on a slow boat from China . . .
Was it forzen when it arrived?
BTN!
--
Toodle Pip
Sid Nuncius
2019-10-23 05:57:27 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers. We don't pay for
quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I can't
think of any such occasion in the last few years).
--
Sid (Make sure Matron is away when you reply)
Penny
2019-10-23 06:51:22 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 06:57:27 +0100, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers. We don't pay for
quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I can't
think of any such occasion in the last few years).
I inadvertently accepted the offer of a free trial of Amazon Prime a while
back and was led to believe this meant next day delivery. It didn't.
Everything took 2-3 days.

I generally find stuff ordered on a 5 business days basis arrives here
before the expected date so I could see no advantage in this 'next day'
thing at all.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Vicky Ayech
2019-10-23 08:09:31 UTC
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Post by Penny
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 06:57:27 +0100, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers. We don't pay for
quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I can't
think of any such occasion in the last few years).
I inadvertently accepted the offer of a free trial of Amazon Prime a while
back and was led to believe this meant next day delivery. It didn't.
Everything took 2-3 days.
I generally find stuff ordered on a 5 business days basis arrives here
before the expected date so I could see no advantage in this 'next day'
thing at all.
We've got Amazon Prime and not only do you often get next day
delivery, but even sometimes same day, which is fun. My mop, ordered
last night is due to arrive today. We got Prime for other advantages
though and don't pay extra for fast delivery. It comes with tv
programmes etc. I waited weeks for a soap dish from China, not Amazon.
Penny
2019-10-23 16:31:18 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 09:09:31 +0100, Vicky Ayech <***@gmail.com>
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Penny
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 06:57:27 +0100, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers. We don't pay for
quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I can't
think of any such occasion in the last few years).
I inadvertently accepted the offer of a free trial of Amazon Prime a while
back and was led to believe this meant next day delivery. It didn't.
Everything took 2-3 days.
I generally find stuff ordered on a 5 business days basis arrives here
before the expected date so I could see no advantage in this 'next day'
thing at all.
We've got Amazon Prime and not only do you often get next day
delivery, but even sometimes same day, which is fun. My mop, ordered
last night is due to arrive today. We got Prime for other advantages
though and don't pay extra for fast delivery. It comes with tv
programmes etc. I waited weeks for a soap dish from China, not Amazon.
Oh, I know it is better elsewhere (and possibly depends what you are
ordering). Amazon deliver directly to d#2 in Whitstable, I suppose the have
a distribution warehouse in N Kent. D#1 gets a good service in Sheffield
too. It's living in the Welsh Marches wot slows things down I think.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Mike
2019-10-23 16:39:17 UTC
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Post by Penny
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Vicky Ayech
Post by Penny
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 06:57:27 +0100, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers. We don't pay for
quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I can't
think of any such occasion in the last few years).
I inadvertently accepted the offer of a free trial of Amazon Prime a while
back and was led to believe this meant next day delivery. It didn't.
Everything took 2-3 days.
I generally find stuff ordered on a 5 business days basis arrives here
before the expected date so I could see no advantage in this 'next day'
thing at all.
We've got Amazon Prime and not only do you often get next day
delivery, but even sometimes same day, which is fun. My mop, ordered
last night is due to arrive today. We got Prime for other advantages
though and don't pay extra for fast delivery. It comes with tv
programmes etc. I waited weeks for a soap dish from China, not Amazon.
Oh, I know it is better elsewhere (and possibly depends what you are
ordering). Amazon deliver directly to d#2 in Whitstable, I suppose the have
a distribution warehouse in N Kent. D#1 gets a good service in Sheffield
too. It's living in the Welsh Marches wot slows things down I think.
You mean Delliveries take a llittle longer in parts of Wellsh Walles?
--
Toodle Pip
Sam Plusnet
2019-10-23 19:03:09 UTC
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It's living in the Welsh Marches wot slows things down I think.
Post by Mike
You mean Delliveries take a llittle longer in parts of Wellsh Walles?
It's the marching bit. It's bound to take longer that way.
--
Sam Plusnet
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-10-23 17:19:39 UTC
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In message <***@4ax.com>, Penny
<***@labyrinth.freeuk.com> writes:
[]
Post by Penny
Oh, I know it is better elsewhere (and possibly depends what you are
ordering). Amazon deliver directly to d#2 in Whitstable, I suppose the have
a distribution warehouse in N Kent. D#1 gets a good service in Sheffield
too. It's living in the Welsh Marches wot slows things down I think.
Have you found _any_ delivery company manages that area well?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"My dear doctor, they're all true." "Including the lies?"
"_Especially_ the lies." - Deep Space Nine
Penny
2019-10-23 21:19:43 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:19:39 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Penny
Oh, I know it is better elsewhere (and possibly depends what you are
ordering). Amazon deliver directly to d#2 in Whitstable, I suppose the have
a distribution warehouse in N Kent. D#1 gets a good service in Sheffield
too. It's living in the Welsh Marches wot slows things down I think.
Have you found _any_ delivery company manages that area well?
Yes, most of them do, all I'm saying is 'next day delivery' fails to
deliver.
Royal Mail are very good, I often get 2 day deliveries from them when I've
selected 5 business days.
Most of the couriers do well (unless they don't know the area).

UPS have proved themselves useless - driving fast past the house, far too
quickly to read the house names and then reporting I 'was out', without
leaving a card. But I seem to recall that was a relief driver - the item
eventually arrived, too late to be useful since I'd made other arrangements
and the driver who then took it away again did apologise.

Oh, and then there is Tesco online (not the grocery delivery) who will
insist on addressing stuff in Welsh. I don't know anyone who calls
Welshpool 'Y Trallwng' but the lads who delivered my freezer phoned from
Shrewsbury to ask where it was, which was quite amusing as they couldn't
pronounce it (neither can I, with any confidence).
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Mike
2019-10-24 07:32:56 UTC
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Post by Penny
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:19:39 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Penny
Oh, I know it is better elsewhere (and possibly depends what you are
ordering). Amazon deliver directly to d#2 in Whitstable, I suppose the have
a distribution warehouse in N Kent. D#1 gets a good service in Sheffield
too. It's living in the Welsh Marches wot slows things down I think.
Have you found _any_ delivery company manages that area well?
Yes, most of them do, all I'm saying is 'next day delivery' fails to
deliver.
Royal Mail are very good, I often get 2 day deliveries from them when I've
selected 5 business days.
Most of the couriers do well (unless they don't know the area).
UPS have proved themselves useless - driving fast past the house, far too
quickly to read the house names and then reporting I 'was out', without
leaving a card. But I seem to recall that was a relief driver - the item
eventually arrived, too late to be useful since I'd made other arrangements
and the driver who then took it away again did apologise.
Oh, and then there is Tesco online (not the grocery delivery) who will
insist on addressing stuff in Welsh. I don't know anyone who calls
Welshpool 'Y Trallwng' but the lads who delivered my freezer phoned from
Shrewsbury to ask where it was, which was quite amusing as they couldn't
pronounce it (neither can I, with any confidence).
‘S easy it’s ‘Y Trallwng’, HTH, HAND
--
Toodle Pip
Jenny M Benson
2019-10-23 09:27:09 UTC
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Post by Penny
I inadvertently accepted the offer of a free trial of Amazon Prime a while
back and was led to believe this meant next day delivery. It didn't.
Everything took 2-3 days.
I have Amazon Prime. Not everything I buy is eligible for Prime, but I
think what is does arrive next day if I order in time. I ordered
something a few minutes ago, but perhaps I have now put a jinx on it and
it will NOT arrive to-morrow.
--
Jenny M Benson
http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/
Serena Blanchflower
2019-10-23 08:41:19 UTC
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You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers.  We don't pay for
quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I can't
think of any such occasion in the last few years).
The thing which persuaded me to get Amazon Prime wasn't that I always,
or even generally, needed next day delivery but a lot of the stuff I buy
from them is a long way short of the £20[1] required to qualify for free
delivery otherwise. I could generally wait the 4-5 days for delivery but
not the extra week or two until I had enough in my basket to qualify.

For me, given that popping out to the shops to get something I've run
short of isn't an option, it's well worth it.


[1]is it still £20 or have they changed it?
--
Best wishes, Serena
You Must Learn from the Mistakes of Others. You Will Never Live Long
Enough to Make Them All Yourself (Various)
Sid Nuncius
2019-10-23 09:13:33 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers.  We don't pay
for quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I
can't think of any such occasion in the last few years).
The thing which persuaded me to get Amazon Prime wasn't that I always,
or even generally, needed next day delivery but a lot of the stuff I buy
from them is a long way short of the £20[1] required to qualify for free
delivery otherwise. I could generally wait the 4-5 days for delivery but
not the extra week or two until I had enough in my basket to qualify.
For me, given that popping out to the shops to get something I've run
short of isn't an option, it's well worth it.
[1]is it still £20 or have they changed it?
Yes, that's the thing which might tempt me to subscribe to Prime, but
I've managed to work around it so far. I can get to the shops, though,
(albeit in a limited way) so thy need is far greater than mine and I can
certainly see the point.

And yes, it's still £20.
--
Sid (Make sure Matron is away when you reply)
Mike
2019-10-23 09:34:17 UTC
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Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Serena Blanchflower
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers.  We don't pay
for quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I
can't think of any such occasion in the last few years).
The thing which persuaded me to get Amazon Prime wasn't that I always,
or even generally, needed next day delivery but a lot of the stuff I buy
from them is a long way short of the £20[1] required to qualify for free
delivery otherwise. I could generally wait the 4-5 days for delivery but
not the extra week or two until I had enough in my basket to qualify.
For me, given that popping out to the shops to get something I've run
short of isn't an option, it's well worth it.
[1]is it still £20 or have they changed it?
Yes, that's the thing which might tempt me to subscribe to Prime, but
I've managed to work around it so far. I can get to the shops, though,
(albeit in a limited way) so thy need is far greater than mine and I can
certainly see the point.
And yes, it's still £20.
We are primed and find that shopping via Amazon is often much easier than
getting two buses each way to find that the superstores don’t have stock
and would much prefer you went home, didn’t bother them but orfered the
goods on-line and pay for delivery too!
--
Toodle Pip
Vicky Ayech
2019-10-23 10:25:06 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 10:13:33 +0100, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Serena Blanchflower
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers.  We don't pay
for quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I
can't think of any such occasion in the last few years).
The thing which persuaded me to get Amazon Prime wasn't that I always,
or even generally, needed next day delivery but a lot of the stuff I buy
from them is a long way short of the £20[1] required to qualify for free
delivery otherwise. I could generally wait the 4-5 days for delivery but
not the extra week or two until I had enough in my basket to qualify.
For me, given that popping out to the shops to get something I've run
short of isn't an option, it's well worth it.
[1]is it still £20 or have they changed it?
Yes, that's the thing which might tempt me to subscribe to Prime, but
I've managed to work around it so far. I can get to the shops, though,
(albeit in a limited way) so thy need is far greater than mine and I can
certainly see the point.
And yes, it's still £20.
No the delivery is free with Prime, no need to have over twenty
pounds. The mop was 13.95

I often have ones that are just 2 or 3 pounds. Not found a pound sign
on nice new black on yellow keyboard. Unfortunately is US one.
Lots of books are under 20 and there are good offers with Prime.
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-10-23 11:43:00 UTC
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In message <***@4ax.com>, Vicky Ayech
<***@gmail.com> writes:
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Post by Vicky Ayech
I often have ones that are just 2 or 3 pounds. Not found a pound sign
on nice new black on yellow keyboard. Unfortunately is US one.
Lots of books are under 20 and there are good offers with Prime.
If this is plugged into a Windows PC, just tell the PC that it's a UK
keyboard, and you'll get pound on shift-3 as usual, whatever it says on
the keytops; the mapping of the keys is entirely in software.
Unfortunately, other keys (usually @"'#~, and possibly others) will not
be what the keytops say either. If you select the US layout, so the keys
generate what's marked on them, you won't get a pound at all, as US
users don't use them. [To further confuse matters, some US people call #
the pound sign.]

(The same probably applies to Macs too these days.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Look out for #1. Don't step in #2 either.
Vicky Ayech
2019-10-23 12:41:48 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 12:43:00 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Vicky Ayech
I often have ones that are just 2 or 3 pounds. Not found a pound sign
on nice new black on yellow keyboard. Unfortunately is US one.
Lots of books are under 20 and there are good offers with Prime.
If this is plugged into a Windows PC, just tell the PC that it's a UK
keyboard, and you'll get pound on shift-3 as usual, whatever it says on
the keytops; the mapping of the keys is entirely in software.
be what the keytops say either. If you select the US layout, so the keys
generate what's marked on them, you won't get a pound at all, as US
users don't use them. [To further confuse matters, some US people call #
the pound sign.]
(The same probably applies to Macs too these days.)
Thank you jpg. It is quite easy to swop US and English and it
actually changes back when the computer reboots. We did find the
English keyboard had the £ :)
Serena Blanchflower
2019-10-23 12:05:33 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
No the delivery is free with Prime, no need to have over twenty
pounds. The mop was 13.95
Yes, I know. That's why I have Prime as otherwise, it's £20 for free,
super-saver delivery.
Post by Vicky Ayech
I often have ones that are just 2 or 3 pounds. Not found a pound sign
on nice new black on yellow keyboard. Unfortunately is US one.
Lots of books are under 20 and there are good offers with Prime.
My order are, quite often, for things which cost less that about £5,
which is why it might be a longish wait to build up a £20 basket, if I
didn't have prime.
--
Best wishes, Serena
Never say "OOPS!" always say "Ah, Interesting!"
Vicky Ayech
2019-10-23 09:59:26 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 09:41:19 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers.  We don't pay for
quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I can't
think of any such occasion in the last few years).
The thing which persuaded me to get Amazon Prime wasn't that I always,
or even generally, needed next day delivery but a lot of the stuff I buy
from them is a long way short of the £20[1] required to qualify for free
delivery otherwise. I could generally wait the 4-5 days for delivery but
not the extra week or two until I had enough in my basket to qualify.
For me, given that popping out to the shops to get something I've run
short of isn't an option, it's well worth it.
[1]is it still £20 or have they changed it?
The mop arrived around 10.1.m , ordered around 10 pm last night.
Mike
2019-10-23 10:10:18 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 09:41:19 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers.  We don't pay for
quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I can't
think of any such occasion in the last few years).
The thing which persuaded me to get Amazon Prime wasn't that I always,
or even generally, needed next day delivery but a lot of the stuff I buy
from them is a long way short of the £20[1] required to qualify for free
delivery otherwise. I could generally wait the 4-5 days for delivery but
not the extra week or two until I had enough in my basket to qualify.
For me, given that popping out to the shops to get something I've run
short of isn't an option, it's well worth it.
[1]is it still £20 or have they changed it?
The mop arrived around 10.1.m , ordered around 10 pm last night.
Our Spanish neighbour asked if we could order a folding grabber for picking
things up from floor etc. She wanted it today as the recipient returns to
Spain with it tomorrow. Prime tells me it on the delivery van...
--
Toodle Pip
Sam Plusnet
2019-10-23 19:16:45 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 09:41:19 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers.  We don't pay for
quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I can't
think of any such occasion in the last few years).
The thing which persuaded me to get Amazon Prime wasn't that I always,
or even generally, needed next day delivery but a lot of the stuff I buy
from them is a long way short of the £20[1] required to qualify for free
delivery otherwise. I could generally wait the 4-5 days for delivery but
not the extra week or two until I had enough in my basket to qualify.
For me, given that popping out to the shops to get something I've run
short of isn't an option, it's well worth it.
[1]is it still £20 or have they changed it?
The mop arrived around 10.1.m , ordered around 10 pm last night.
Our Spanish neighbour asked if we could order a folding grabber for picking
things up from floor etc. She wanted it today as the recipient returns to
Spain with it tomorrow. Prime tells me it on the delivery van...
Is that the situation where you can follow the van as it wanders from
delivery to delivery? I have only seen that a couple of times, but it
was very entertaining.
--
Sam Plusnet
Mike
2019-10-23 21:08:17 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 09:41:19 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers.  We don't pay for
quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I can't
think of any such occasion in the last few years).
The thing which persuaded me to get Amazon Prime wasn't that I always,
or even generally, needed next day delivery but a lot of the stuff I buy
from them is a long way short of the £20[1] required to qualify for free
delivery otherwise. I could generally wait the 4-5 days for delivery but
not the extra week or two until I had enough in my basket to qualify.
For me, given that popping out to the shops to get something I've run
short of isn't an option, it's well worth it.
[1]is it still £20 or have they changed it?
The mop arrived around 10.1.m , ordered around 10 pm last night.
Our Spanish neighbour asked if we could order a folding grabber for picking
things up from floor etc. She wanted it today as the recipient returns to
Spain with it tomorrow. Prime tells me it on the delivery van...
Is that the situation where you can follow the van as it wanders from
delivery to delivery? I have only seen that a couple of times, but it
was very entertaining.
Didn’t get that facility this time but frequently I do watch progress.
--
Toodle Pip
Chris McMillan
2019-10-24 13:50:20 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 09:41:19 +0100, Serena Blanchflower
Post by Serena Blanchflower
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers.  We don't pay for
quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I can't
think of any such occasion in the last few years).
The thing which persuaded me to get Amazon Prime wasn't that I always,
or even generally, needed next day delivery but a lot of the stuff I buy
from them is a long way short of the £20[1] required to qualify for free
delivery otherwise. I could generally wait the 4-5 days for delivery but
not the extra week or two until I had enough in my basket to qualify.
For me, given that popping out to the shops to get something I've run
short of isn't an option, it's well worth it.
[1]is it still £20 or have they changed it?
The mop arrived around 10.1.m , ordered around 10 pm last night.
Our Spanish neighbour asked if we could order a folding grabber for picking
things up from floor etc. She wanted it today as the recipient returns to
Spain with it tomorrow. Prime tells me it on the delivery van...
Is that the situation where you can follow the van as it wanders from
delivery to delivery? I have only seen that a couple of times, but it
was very entertaining.
It can be, yes. Like a game of snakes and ladders!

One very excited Spanish trio! We handed it over last night.

Sincerely Chris
Sam Plusnet
2019-10-24 21:18:47 UTC
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Post by Chris McMillan
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Mike
Our Spanish neighbour asked if we could order a folding grabber for picking
things up from floor etc. She wanted it today as the recipient returns to
Spain with it tomorrow. Prime tells me it on the delivery van...
Is that the situation where you can follow the van as it wanders from
delivery to delivery? I have only seen that a couple of times, but it
was very entertaining.
It can be, yes. Like a game of snakes and ladders!
It supplies almost as much entertainment to pensioners as a laser
pointer does to a cat.
--
Sam Plusnet
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-10-25 00:55:17 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Chris McMillan
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Mike
Our Spanish neighbour asked if we could order a folding grabber for picking
things up from floor etc. She wanted it today as the recipient returns to
Spain with it tomorrow. Prime tells me it on the delivery van...
Is that the situation where you can follow the van as it wanders from
delivery to delivery? I have only seen that a couple of times, but it
was very entertaining.
It can be, yes. Like a game of snakes and ladders!
It supplies almost as much entertainment to pensioners as a laser
pointer does to a cat.
Have you come across cat bowling?

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want.
CALVIN AND HOBBES, according to a @qikipedia tweet 2019-9-9.
Serena Blanchflower
2019-10-25 08:23:41 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Have you come across cat bowling?
http://youtu.be/aFztjgfDWDA
Oh, wonderful!
--
Best wishes, Serena
"I meant," said Ipslore bitterly, "what is there in this world that
truly makes living worth while?" Death thought about it. "Cats," he
said eventually, "Cats are nice." (Terry Pratchett)
Jenny M Benson
2019-10-25 12:53:54 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Have you come across cat bowling?
http://youtu.be/aFztjgfDWDA
Oh, wonderful!
Yes, indeed! And the video that came up next automagically was *very*
interesting because it showed the situation of an existing-cat-household
taking on a new kitten and the behaviour of both felines was *exactly*
what I witnessed recently when Pardon came to join Sorry.
--
Jenny M Benson
http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-10-25 20:52:14 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Have you come across cat bowling?
http://youtu.be/aFztjgfDWDA
Oh, wonderful!
Glad you liked it. The first time I saw it, it only being such a short
(28") clip, I didn't realise how much setup was involved - the mat, and
of course the target.

There are lots of them now - if you put cat bowling into YouTube's
search box, you'll find them.
***with second choices taken into account***
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

An Englishman, even if he is alone, forms an orderly queue of one.
(George Mikes in "How to be an Alien".)
Vicky Ayech
2019-10-25 21:00:18 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:52:14 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Have you come across cat bowling?
http://youtu.be/aFztjgfDWDA
Oh, wonderful!
Glad you liked it. The first time I saw it, it only being such a short
(28") clip, I didn't realise how much setup was involved - the mat, and
of course the target.
There are lots of them now - if you put cat bowling into YouTube's
search box, you'll find them.
***with second choices taken into account***
B loved it too. He thinks it would be a success as an olympic event.
Penny
2019-10-26 07:46:45 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:52:14 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
There are lots of them now - if you put cat bowling into YouTube's
search box, you'll find them.
***with second choices taken into account***
Oh dear, I think your sig is suffering Brexit Fatigue (like me).
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Mike
2019-10-26 10:33:18 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:52:14 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
There are lots of them now - if you put cat bowling into YouTube's
search box, you'll find them.
***with second choices taken into account***
Oh dear, I think your sig is suffering Brexit Fatigue (like me).
Brexit Fatigue? No problem, I just tune in to Radio Brexit (formally known
as Radio Four) every two or three months for an update - and if nothing has
happened, leave it for a few more months before tuning in again; you see, I
like to keep up to date - just in case something should happen one day.
--
Toodle Pip
Nick Odell
2019-10-26 13:14:51 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:52:14 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
There are lots of them now - if you put cat bowling into YouTube's
search box, you'll find them.
***with second choices taken into account***
Oh dear, I think your sig is suffering Brexit Fatigue (like me).
Brexit Fatigue? No problem, I just tune in to Radio Brexit (formally known
as Radio Four) every two or three months for an update - and if nothing has
happened, leave it for a few more months before tuning in again; you see, I
like to keep up to date - just in case something should happen one day.
I could be wrong but I think that it was somewhere near the
end of Any Questions last night[1] that somebody told a couple of
Brexit jokes that tickled me.

"The year is 2165 and the British Prime Minister is making his annual
vist to Brussels to ask for an extension. Nobody is quite sure why but
it is such an ancient ceremony that nobody wants to end it either."


and a verbal description of a cartoon

Two old ladies sitting together and knitting. One says to the other "I
hope that they finally give us a second referendum: I wasn't old
enough to vote in the first one."


Made oi larf.

Nick
[1]And I'm sure someone will tell me...
Vicky Ayech
2019-10-26 17:28:23 UTC
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On Sat, 26 Oct 2019 14:14:51 +0100, Nick Odell
Post by Nick Odell
Post by Mike
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:52:14 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
There are lots of them now - if you put cat bowling into YouTube's
search box, you'll find them.
***with second choices taken into account***
Oh dear, I think your sig is suffering Brexit Fatigue (like me).
Brexit Fatigue? No problem, I just tune in to Radio Brexit (formally known
as Radio Four) every two or three months for an update - and if nothing has
happened, leave it for a few more months before tuning in again; you see, I
like to keep up to date - just in case something should happen one day.
I could be wrong but I think that it was somewhere near the
end of Any Questions last night[1] that somebody told a couple of
Brexit jokes that tickled me.
"The year is 2165 and the British Prime Minister is making his annual
vist to Brussels to ask for an extension. Nobody is quite sure why but
it is such an ancient ceremony that nobody wants to end it either."
and a verbal description of a cartoon
Two old ladies sitting together and knitting. One says to the other "I
hope that they finally give us a second referendum: I wasn't old
enough to vote in the first one."
Made oi larf.
Nick
[1]And I'm sure someone will tell me...
Was it here I saw the one where 27 countries form a new European
Union, transfering everything exactly the same as the old, and leave
the UK to brexit with itself, if it ever manages that ?
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-10-26 22:49:05 UTC
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In message <***@4ax.com>, Vicky Ayech
<***@gmail.com> writes:
[]
Post by Vicky Ayech
Was it here I saw the one where 27 countries form a new European
Union, transfering everything exactly the same as the old, and leave
the UK to brexit with itself, if it ever manages that ?
(-:

Whatever one's views on Brexit, this graphic
Loading Image...
(bit.ly/36b7sQ0) is very interesting: it shows which countries are in
and out of the: European Union*; Euro Zone; European Economic Area*;
European Free Trade Association; Customs Union*; and Schengen Area. (The
UK is in the three I've asterisked.)

17 countries are in all of them but EFTA (which is a separate group of
four). 19 in the Euro Zone, 26 in Schengen, and various other groupings:
I think it's a very interesting graphic. It also shows the relative
sizes of the economies (from 2015): the big four are Germany, UK,
France, and Italy, with Spain and Neth next.

Enjoy. (As I say, whatever your views on Brexit.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Who came first? Adam or Eve?" "Adam of course; men always do."
Victoria Wood (via Peter Hesketh)
Vicky Ayech
2019-10-25 08:52:44 UTC
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On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 01:55:17 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Chris McMillan
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Mike
Our Spanish neighbour asked if we could order a folding grabber for picking
things up from floor etc. She wanted it today as the recipient returns to
Spain with it tomorrow. Prime tells me it on the delivery van...
Is that the situation where you can follow the van as it wanders from
delivery to delivery? I have only seen that a couple of times, but it
was very entertaining.
It can be, yes. Like a game of snakes and ladders!
It supplies almost as much entertainment to pensioners as a laser
pointer does to a cat.
Have you come across cat bowling?
http://youtu.be/aFztjgfDWDA
Thank you. I shared that in another place as it is good.
Mike
2019-10-25 07:41:35 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Chris McMillan
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Mike
Our Spanish neighbour asked if we could order a folding grabber for picking
things up from floor etc. She wanted it today as the recipient returns to
Spain with it tomorrow. Prime tells me it on the delivery van...
Is that the situation where you can follow the van as it wanders from
delivery to delivery? I have only seen that a couple of times, but it
was very entertaining.
It can be, yes. Like a game of snakes and ladders!
It supplies almost as much entertainment to pensioners as a laser
pointer does to a cat.
Our cats loved to chase the caret on the Acorn ‘puter screens.
--
Toodle Pip
Sam Plusnet
2019-10-23 19:08:34 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere
near the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet
Cottage are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four
or five days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for
more instant gratification.
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers.  We don't pay for
quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I can't
think of any such occasion in the last few years).
I ordered something (from Amazon) last night and, when I placed the
order, the delivery forecast said 28th Oct.

When I received a conformation emule it said Nov 8th to Nov 16th.

Whilst that doesn't create a problem, it is irritating. However past
experience is that the actual delivery will be closer to the original
forecast than the latter version.
--
Sam Plusnet
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-10-23 23:57:51 UTC
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In message <uuCdnZg_xd-***@brightview.co.uk>, Sam
Plusnet <***@home.com> writes:
[]
Post by Sam Plusnet
I ordered something (from Amazon) last night and, when I placed the
order, the delivery forecast said 28th Oct.
I use the "note to seller" facility. I believe "time is of the essence"
is a magic phrase in some circumstances. Though I'm not usually _too_
bothered about urgent delivery, I often insert "any ambiguity in the
listing [I usually buy from ebay] is to be resolved to the buyer's
rather than the seller's benefit", if I notice any inconsistency in it.
Post by Sam Plusnet
When I received a conformation emule it said Nov 8th to Nov 16th.
Whilst that doesn't create a problem, it is irritating. However past
experience is that the actual delivery will be closer to the original
forecast than the latter version.
I have heard that they're beginning to deliberately delay, because
no-one was paying for Prime (or similar schemes), because things were in
general arriving a lot sooner than predicted anyway. I have no idea
whether there's any truth.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Remembrance of things past is not necessarily the remembrance of things as
they were. - Marcel Proust
Penny
2019-10-24 09:14:58 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 00:57:51 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
I use the "note to seller" facility. I believe "time is of the essence"
is a magic phrase in some circumstances. Though I'm not usually _too_
bothered about urgent delivery, I often insert "any ambiguity in the
listing [I usually buy from ebay] is to be resolved to the buyer's
rather than the seller's benefit", if I notice any inconsistency in it.
Interesting.
I recently spotted such an inconsistency and sent the seller a question
about it. He replied to say the headline quantity was correct and edited
the details later the same day.
I placed my order.
I never got a 'despatched' notification and the expected day of delivery
came and went - I had been a little concerned because he wasn't using Royal
Mail.
I sent him a message and left it another week. There was no response and
many other buyers had left negative feedback to say the goods had not
arrived. The seller's 'shop' was empty so I started the process to get a
refund. No idea what happened but I prefer to think some personal problem
had arisen making it impossible for him to send out orders.
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
I have heard that they're beginning to deliberately delay, because
no-one was paying for Prime (or similar schemes), because things were in
general arriving a lot sooner than predicted anyway. I have no idea
whether there's any truth.
I have had more problems with stuff arriving too soon. If I order something
while away from home I would rather it arrived on the stated date than
earlier when I know I won't be there. Although there are plenty of dry
places things could be left if I don't come to the door, I have had parcels
left on the doorstep (no one rang the bell) where I can't actually see them
until I go out and no card put through the letter box. If the weather is
bad I'm quite likely to stay indoors and don't like finding soggy parcels
after a day or two out in the rain.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Steve Hague
2019-10-24 10:41:06 UTC
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Post by Penny
I have had more problems with stuff arriving too soon. If I order something
while away from home I would rather it arrived on the stated date than
earlier when I know I won't be there. Although there are plenty of dry
places things could be left if I don't come to the door, I have had parcels
left on the doorstep (no one rang the bell) where I can't actually see them
until I go out and no card put through the letter box. If the weather is
bad I'm quite likely to stay indoors and don't like finding soggy parcels
after a day or two out in the rain.
A couple of years ago we had quite a few things we were expecting to
arrive via Royal Mail fail to turn up. Some of the things were quite
valuable. Enquiries were to say the least unenlightening, but a month or
so after, a couple of the less valuable items were put through our door
soaking wet in a plastic bag. Shortly afterwards we saw on the local
news that a postman had been sacked and was going to be prosecuted for
dumping most of his postbag in a nearby stream and going home early.
Steve
Penny
2019-10-24 11:46:20 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 11:41:06 +0100, Steve Hague <***@gmail.com>
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Steve Hague
A couple of years ago we had quite a few things we were expecting to
arrive via Royal Mail fail to turn up. Some of the things were quite
valuable. Enquiries were to say the least unenlightening, but a month or
so after, a couple of the less valuable items were put through our door
soaking wet in a plastic bag. Shortly afterwards we saw on the local
news that a postman had been sacked and was going to be prosecuted for
dumping most of his postbag in a nearby stream and going home early.
Ah yes, we had a rogue postman story a while back. I received a bunch of
mail, all in the same envelope, with an apologetic note from the local
postmaster which told a similar story, although in that case I think he'd
just taken them home.

In the Essex village where I lived in my teens, the postman, nick-named
Nipper because he liked to nip in the pubs on his round, would put all the
remaining mail back in the post box if he got too tired (and emotional?)
during his round. At least that way it did arrive eventually.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
krw
2019-10-24 11:56:52 UTC
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Post by Steve Hague
A couple of years ago we had quite a few things we were expecting to
arrive via Royal Mail fail to turn up.
I subscribe to a variety of magazines and I have noticed that one issue
a year fails to arrive. Historically it has seemed to be the December
issue but I am missing the November issue (which for some reason is
published in early October).

Does anyone know why magazines often seem to have the wrong cover date?
A number of Bauer magazines show four week dates and observe these
pretty accurately - presumably because they do not have a "month" on the
cover.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Serena Blanchflower
2019-10-24 12:10:52 UTC
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Post by krw
Does anyone know why magazines often seem to have the wrong cover date?
A number of Bauer magazines show four week dates and observe these
pretty accurately - presumably because they do not have a "month" on the
cover.
Many years ago, when the world was young, magazines were published
during the month which was printed on the cover. Publishers realised
that there was an advantage in publishing their magazine a few days
earlier than the magazine(s) they were competing with and so started
publishing earlier and earlier in the month. When they couldn't move
any earlier in the month, it moved to the end of the previous month.
Now, as you say, most of them seem to come out early in the month before
their official date :(
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Every man is a damn fool for at least five minutes every day; wisdom
consists in not exceeding the limit. (Elbert Hubbard)
carolet
2019-10-24 14:47:44 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
Does anyone know why magazines often seem to have the wrong cover
date? A number of Bauer magazines show four week dates and observe
these pretty accurately - presumably because they do not have a
"month" on the cover.
Many years ago, when the world was young, magazines were published
during the month which was printed on the cover.  Publishers realised
that there was an advantage in publishing their magazine a few days
earlier than the magazine(s) they were competing with and so started
publishing earlier and earlier in the month.  When they couldn't move
any earlier in the month, it moved to the end of the previous month.
Now, as you say, most of them seem to come out early in the month before
their official date :(
I'm sure I heard something a while back about a magazine (I can't
remember which one) that intended to rectify this situation by having a
Christmas issue in between the December and January issues. Thereafter
each issue would show the month in which it was issued.
--
CaroleT
Mike
2019-10-24 14:50:55 UTC
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Post by carolet
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by krw
Does anyone know why magazines often seem to have the wrong cover
date? A number of Bauer magazines show four week dates and observe
these pretty accurately - presumably because they do not have a
"month" on the cover.
Many years ago, when the world was young, magazines were published
during the month which was printed on the cover.  Publishers realised
that there was an advantage in publishing their magazine a few days
earlier than the magazine(s) they were competing with and so started
publishing earlier and earlier in the month.  When they couldn't move
any earlier in the month, it moved to the end of the previous month.
Now, as you say, most of them seem to come out early in the month before
their official date :(
I'm sure I heard something a while back about a magazine (I can't
remember which one) that intended to rectify this situation by having a
Christmas issue in between the December and January issues. Thereafter
each issue would show the month in which it was issued.
Possibly proposed by Julian?
--
Toodle Pip
Chris J Dixon
2019-10-24 12:49:26 UTC
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Post by krw
I subscribe to a variety of magazines and I have noticed that one issue
a year fails to arrive. Historically it has seemed to be the December
issue but I am missing the November issue (which for some reason is
published in early October).
Does anyone know why magazines often seem to have the wrong cover date?
A number of Bauer magazines show four week dates and observe these
pretty accurately - presumably because they do not have a "month" on the
cover.
The most recent issue of PC Pro is marked "December", and I
expect the "January" one to land on my doormat within the next 10
days.

I guess the way it has happened is that competing periodicals see
a marketing advantage in getting their product into the shops
before the opposition. Naturally, they will be driven to
retaliate. Over the years the date creeps backwards to reach the
position we are now in.

Chris
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'48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
***@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1
Plant amazing Acers.
krw
2019-10-24 13:06:57 UTC
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Post by Chris J Dixon
Over the years the date creeps backwards to reach the
position we are now in.
Railway Magazine had a Christmas issue a few years ago and is now
published around the first day of the month for which it is named
realising that the cover date does not convey any particular advantage.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Sam Plusnet
2019-10-24 21:26:18 UTC
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Post by Chris J Dixon
Post by krw
I subscribe to a variety of magazines and I have noticed that one issue
a year fails to arrive. Historically it has seemed to be the December
issue but I am missing the November issue (which for some reason is
published in early October).
Does anyone know why magazines often seem to have the wrong cover date?
A number of Bauer magazines show four week dates and observe these
pretty accurately - presumably because they do not have a "month" on the
cover.
The most recent issue of PC Pro is marked "December", and I
expect the "January" one to land on my doormat within the next 10
days.
I guess the way it has happened is that competing periodicals see
a marketing advantage in getting their product into the shops
before the opposition. Naturally, they will be driven to
retaliate. Over the years the date creeps backwards to reach the
position we are now in.
Plus also, as well. Magazines prefer people to subscribe rather than
buy the odd issue at the newsagent, so they started mailing copies to
subscribers well before the magazine 'hit the news stands'.

My magazine consumption is all on-line of late.
--
Sam Plusnet
Penny
2019-10-24 13:19:48 UTC
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On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 12:56:52 +0100, krw <***@whitnet.uk> scrawled in the
dust...
Post by krw
Does anyone know why magazines often seem to have the wrong cover date?
A number of Bauer magazines show four week dates and observe these
pretty accurately - presumably because they do not have a "month" on the
cover.
As mentioned recently, I was the work-experience person who applied the
wrong _year_ to the January edition of the magazine I was working on :(
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Anne B
2019-10-26 09:55:30 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere
near the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet
Cottage are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait
four or five days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay
for more instant gratification.
You will find two fellow eccentrics at Nuncius Towers. We don't pay
for quick delivery either (except in the odd case of real need, but I
can't think of any such occasion in the last few years).
I ordered something (from Amazon) last night and, when I placed the
order, the delivery forecast said 28th Oct.
When I received a conformation emule it said Nov 8th to Nov 16th.
Whilst that doesn't create a problem, it is irritating. However past
experience is that the actual delivery will be closer to the original
forecast than the latter version.
The first time I used Amazon, I ordered, in September, a book to give as
a Christmas present.

Every two weeks from then on, I got an e-mail delaying the delivery for
another two weeks .....

..... until the following April (just after the intended recipient's
birthday), when they finally admitted that they had never had a copy and
that they would not be able to fulfil the order.

That was therefore the last time I will ever attempt to use Amazon.

Anne B
J. P. Gilliver (John)
2019-10-26 10:38:28 UTC
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In message <qp156j$u23$***@dont-email.me>, Anne B
<***@btinternet.com> writes:
[]
Post by Anne B
The first time I used Amazon, I ordered, in September, a book to give
as a Christmas present.
Every two weeks from then on, I got an e-mail delaying the delivery for
another two weeks .....
..... until the following April (just after the intended recipient's
birthday), when they finally admitted that they had never had a copy
and that they would not be able to fulfil the order.
That was therefore the last time I will ever attempt to use Amazon.
Anne B
Was it Amazon, or just somebody selling through Amazon?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

What has happened since 1979, I suspect, is that the spotting of mistakes has
become entirely associated with mean-spiritedness, snobbishness and
judgementalism. But...can be...funny and interesting.
Lynn Truss, RT 2015/2/21-27
Anne B
2019-10-27 23:28:01 UTC
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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Anne B
The first time I used Amazon, I ordered, in September, a book to give
as a Christmas present.
Every two weeks from then on, I got an e-mail delaying the delivery
for another two weeks .....
..... until the following April (just after the intended recipient's
birthday), when they finally admitted that they had never had a copy
and that they would not be able to fulfil the order.
That was therefore the last time I will ever attempt to use Amazon.
Anne B
Was it Amazon, or just somebody selling through Amazon?
Amazon itself.

Anne B
Vicky Ayech
2019-10-28 06:56:41 UTC
Permalink
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 23:28:01 +0000, Anne B
Post by Anne B
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Anne B
The first time I used Amazon, I ordered, in September, a book to give
as a Christmas present.
Every two weeks from then on, I got an e-mail delaying the delivery
for another two weeks .....
..... until the following April (just after the intended recipient's
birthday), when they finally admitted that they had never had a copy
and that they would not be able to fulfil the order.
That was therefore the last time I will ever attempt to use Amazon.
Anne B
Was it Amazon, or just somebody selling through Amazon?
Amazon itself.
Anne B
That is very bad luck. We use them a lot and they seem very good. If
there is a problem they usually give a month's free Prime to
compensate.
Sam Plusnet
2019-10-28 19:29:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Vicky Ayech
That is very bad luck. We use them a lot and they seem very good. If
there is a problem they usually give a month's free Prime to
compensate.
They keep on offering me one months free Prime for no reason at all.
--
Sam Plusnet
Chris J Dixon
2019-10-28 21:17:20 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
They keep on offering me one months free Prime for no reason at all.
Every time I place an order, the button to move forward is
insignificant, but the Prime one is big and bright. One
accidental click and you are straight in.

By contrast, canceling immediately requires lots of confirmatory
clicks to say that you are _really sure_ you don't want it.

Also, there is a box the ticking which supposedly remembers your
shipping preferences. It never does.

Chris
--
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'48/33 M B+ G++ A L(-) I S-- CH0(--)(p) Ar- T+ H0 ?Q
***@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1
Plant amazing Acers.
Penny
2019-10-28 21:20:12 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 21:17:20 +0000, Chris J Dixon <***@cdixon.me.uk>
scrawled in the dust...
Post by Chris J Dixon
Also, there is a box the ticking which supposedly remembers your
shipping preferences. It never does.
How else would you get your box-ticking exercise?
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Fenny
2019-10-28 22:06:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Chris J Dixon
Also, there is a box the ticking which supposedly remembers your
shipping preferences. It never does.
I have my shipping preferences set to the Amazon locker in town, as
it's just across the square from my regular lunchtime Waitrose free
coffee. But marketplace sellers won't ship to the lockers or other
pickup points, they want to ship to my home address and their couriers
fail to read the instructions about delivering to the back door.

I may have to change my "home" address to the office and let the
caretakers deal with the delivery idiots.
--
Fenny
Vicky Ayech
2019-10-29 09:58:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Chris J Dixon
Post by Sam Plusnet
They keep on offering me one months free Prime for no reason at all.
Every time I place an order, the button to move forward is
insignificant, but the Prime one is big and bright. One
accidental click and you are straight in.
By contrast, canceling immediately requires lots of confirmatory
clicks to say that you are _really sure_ you don't want it.
Yes they are devious when yo check out. I've had things go wrong
there.
Post by Chris J Dixon
Also, there is a box the ticking which supposedly remembers your
shipping preferences. It never does.
Chris
It remembers mine.
Anne B
2019-10-28 22:20:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 23:28:01 +0000, Anne B
Post by Anne B
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Anne B
The first time I used Amazon, I ordered, in September, a book to give
as a Christmas present.
Every two weeks from then on, I got an e-mail delaying the delivery
for another two weeks .....
..... until the following April (just after the intended recipient's
birthday), when they finally admitted that they had never had a copy
and that they would not be able to fulfil the order.
That was therefore the last time I will ever attempt to use Amazon.
Anne B
Was it Amazon, or just somebody selling through Amazon?
Amazon itself.
Anne B
That is very bad luck. We use them a lot and they seem very good. If
there is a problem they usually give a month's free Prime to
compensate.
No, it wasn't bad luck. It was plain common-or-garden downright
dishonesty. If they had said at the outset that they didn't have the
book and were trying to source it, that would have been fine. But they
didn't. They kept me dangling for six months before they 'fessed up.

Anne B
Vicky Ayech
2019-10-29 10:01:46 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 22:20:39 +0000, Anne B
Post by Anne B
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 23:28:01 +0000, Anne B
Post by Anne B
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Anne B
The first time I used Amazon, I ordered, in September, a book to give
as a Christmas present.
Every two weeks from then on, I got an e-mail delaying the delivery
for another two weeks .....
..... until the following April (just after the intended recipient's
birthday), when they finally admitted that they had never had a copy
and that they would not be able to fulfil the order.
That was therefore the last time I will ever attempt to use Amazon.
Anne B
Was it Amazon, or just somebody selling through Amazon?
Amazon itself.
Anne B
That is very bad luck. We use them a lot and they seem very good. If
there is a problem they usually give a month's free Prime to
compensate.
No, it wasn't bad luck. It was plain common-or-garden downright
dishonesty. If they had said at the outset that they didn't have the
book and were trying to source it, that would have been fine. But they
didn't. They kept me dangling for six months before they 'fessed up.
Anne B
If they didn't have it it was not sold by them but via them in market
place. It can be hard to tell which. They are very good at stock
control and they call at once ifyou ask online if there is a problem.
Anne B
2019-10-29 18:47:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Mon, 28 Oct 2019 22:20:39 +0000, Anne B
Post by Anne B
Post by Vicky Ayech
On Sun, 27 Oct 2019 23:28:01 +0000, Anne B
Post by Anne B
Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)
[]
Post by Anne B
The first time I used Amazon, I ordered, in September, a book to give
as a Christmas present.
Every two weeks from then on, I got an e-mail delaying the delivery
for another two weeks .....
..... until the following April (just after the intended recipient's
birthday), when they finally admitted that they had never had a copy
and that they would not be able to fulfil the order.
That was therefore the last time I will ever attempt to use Amazon.
Anne B
Was it Amazon, or just somebody selling through Amazon?
Amazon itself.
Anne B
That is very bad luck. We use them a lot and they seem very good. If
there is a problem they usually give a month's free Prime to
compensate.
No, it wasn't bad luck. It was plain common-or-garden downright
dishonesty. If they had said at the outset that they didn't have the
book and were trying to source it, that would have been fine. But they
didn't. They kept me dangling for six months before they 'fessed up.
Anne B
If they didn't have it it was not sold by them but via them in market
place. It can be hard to tell which. They are very good at stock
control and they call at once ifyou ask online if there is a problem.
This was before they invented 'marketplace'. It was Amazon itself, when
it was quite a new phenomenon.

Anne B

Mike
2019-10-23 08:45:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin (the
old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't ask) and
was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot imagine
why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
I recall that when I was working in a DIY shop in Yeovil in the sixties, we
ordered some rather obscure item and received a postcard (!) from the
company a few days later informing us that delivery would be ‘52 weeks’ -
we forgot all about the item but, sure enough, a year later it was
delivered!
--
Toodle Pip
Penny
2019-10-23 16:37:41 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 08:45:19 GMT, Mike <***@ntlworld.com> scrawled
in the dust...
Post by Mike
I recall that when I was working in a DIY shop in Yeovil in the sixties, we
ordered some rather obscure item and received a postcard (!) from the
company a few days later informing us that delivery would be ‘52 weeks’ -
we forgot all about the item but, sure enough, a year later it was
delivered!
That reminds me of our old Land Rover which had no heater (and manual
windscreen wipers).
The husgod ordered a heater to be fitted by the village garage (who always
had cash-flow problems). About 2 months later they phoned him to say they
had a photograph of it...
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Mike
2019-10-23 16:40:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Mike
I recall that when I was working in a DIY shop in Yeovil in the sixties, we
ordered some rather obscure item and received a postcard (!) from the
company a few days later informing us that delivery would be ‘52 weeks’ -
we forgot all about the item but, sure enough, a year later it was
delivered!
That reminds me of our old Land Rover which had no heater (and manual
windscreen wipers).
The husgod ordered a heater to be fitted by the village garage (who always
had cash-flow problems). About 2 months later they phoned him to say they
had a photograph of it...
Hot halides?
--
Toodle Pip
krw
2019-10-23 22:25:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Penny
in the dust...
Post by Mike
I recall that when I was working in a DIY shop in Yeovil in the sixties, we
ordered some rather obscure item and received a postcard (!) from the
company a few days later informing us that delivery would be ‘52 weeks’ -
we forgot all about the item but, sure enough, a year later it was
delivered!
That reminds me of our old Land Rover which had no heater (and manual
windscreen wipers).
The husgod ordered a heater to be fitted by the village garage (who always
had cash-flow problems). About 2 months later they phoned him to say they
had a photograph of it...
On a completely different tack my parents were lent a Mini one winter as
the owner was away (Armed Forces I think) and they wanted the vehicle
kept working. It was cold and so I turned the heater and rotated the
control to the maximum. The car did not get warm ever. After a few
weeks of this I found out that if the heater was turned on that gave
maximum heat and the heat element reduced the more the control was
rotated! Standard piece of BL product design I suppose.
--
Kosmo Richard W
www.travelswmw.whitnet.uk
https://tinyurl.com/KRWpics
Flop
2019-10-23 08:54:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin (the
old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't ask) and
was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot imagine
why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
I am getting some idea about delivery times...

Ordered off of eBay.

Ready for courier collection same day.

Courier collected parcel *5* days later.

24hours from collection depot to delivery depot.

*10* days in delivery depot waiting to be sent out.

Contacted them to ask when delivery would be made.

They would not tell me because of Data Protection!!

Sender gave up and shipped a replacement.

Replacement arrived in 4days.
No sign of original.

No explanation.
--
Flop

Truly the Good Lord gave us computers that we might learn patience
Sid Nuncius
2019-10-23 09:20:21 UTC
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Post by Flop
I am getting some idea about delivery times...
Ordered off of eBay.
Ready for courier collection same day.
Courier collected parcel *5* days later.
24hours from collection depot to delivery depot.
*10* days in delivery depot waiting to be sent out.
Contacted them to ask when delivery would be made.
They would not tell me because of Data Protection!!
Sender gave up and shipped a replacement.
Replacement arrived in 4days.
No sign of original.
No explanation.
A chat group about an aspect of Amazon regularly chronicles the
inadequacies (to put it mildly) of Hermes. So much gets "lost" (i.e.
nicked) that no-one expects The Spanish...er...nugger. Sorry. I meant,
no-one expects items dispatched via Hermes actually to arrive. It's a
cause for celebration if they do.

This morning someone suggested a recruitment slogan: "Were you one of
those children who knocked on people's doors and then ran away, just for
the fun of it? You could be a Hermes driver."
--
Sid (Make sure Matron is away when you reply)
Jenny M Benson
2019-10-23 09:37:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Flop
I am getting some idea about delivery times...
Ordered off of eBay.
Ready for courier collection same day.
Courier collected parcel *5* days later.
24hours from collection depot to delivery depot.
*10* days in delivery depot waiting to be sent out.
Contacted them to ask when delivery would be made.
They would not tell me because of Data Protection!!
Sender gave up and shipped a replacement.
Replacement arrived in 4days.
No sign of original.
No explanation.
A chat group about an aspect of Amazon regularly chronicles the
inadequacies (to put it mildly) of Hermes.  So much gets "lost" (i.e.
nicked) that no-one expects The Spanish...er...nugger.  Sorry.  I meant,
no-one expects items dispatched via Hermes actually to arrive.  It's a
cause for celebration if they do.
This morning someone suggested a recruitment slogan:  "Were you one of
those children who knocked on people's doors and then ran away, just for
the fun of it?  You could be a Hermes driver."
I was just about to reply to Flop's post with "Was it Hermes by any chance?"

I put a knitting machine and ribbing attachment on eBay and opted for
the eBay-organized delivery option and was dismayed when it turned out
that meant Hermes as I had experienced their ineptitude before. Sure
enough, complaints from my buyer that items were never delivered which
escalated to a formal investigation by eBay. Hermes claimed they'd
"left the items in the garden because they were heavy." Apparently the
driver was not even required to knock on the door and say he'd dumped
them. Yes, they were heavy, but I - a feeble female OAP had managed to
carry them from home to car, car to drop-off point. I would have
thought one of the qualifications for being a courier is being able to
carry heavy stuff.

(eBay found in my favour.)
--
Jenny M Benson
http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/
Chris McMillan
2019-10-23 10:41:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Flop
I am getting some idea about delivery times...
Ordered off of eBay.
Ready for courier collection same day.
Courier collected parcel *5* days later.
24hours from collection depot to delivery depot.
*10* days in delivery depot waiting to be sent out.
Contacted them to ask when delivery would be made.
They would not tell me because of Data Protection!!
Sender gave up and shipped a replacement.
Replacement arrived in 4days.
No sign of original.
No explanation.
A chat group about an aspect of Amazon regularly chronicles the
inadequacies (to put it mildly) of Hermes.  So much gets "lost" (i.e.
nicked) that no-one expects The Spanish...er...nugger.  Sorry.  I meant,
no-one expects items dispatched via Hermes actually to arrive.  It's a
cause for celebration if they do.
This morning someone suggested a recruitment slogan:  "Were you one of
those children who knocked on people's doors and then ran away, just for
the fun of it?  You could be a Hermes driver."
I was just about to reply to Flop's post with "Was it Hermes by any chance?"
I put a knitting machine and ribbing attachment on eBay and opted for
the eBay-organized delivery option and was dismayed when it turned out
that meant Hermes as I had experienced their ineptitude before. Sure
enough, complaints from my buyer that items were never delivered which
escalated to a formal investigation by eBay. Hermes claimed they'd
"left the items in the garden because they were heavy." Apparently the
driver was not even required to knock on the door and say he'd dumped
them. Yes, they were heavy, but I - a feeble female OAP had managed to
carry them from home to car, car to drop-off point. I would have
thought one of the qualifications for being a courier is being able to
carry heavy stuff.
(eBay found in my favour.)
Hermes: we’ve seen how some Hermes drivers deal with their packages.
Nothing surprises us.

Currently waiting for a parcel ordered last night, arrived in depot at 6am.
It must be here no later than first thing preferably tonight to go in a
suitcase to Spain in the morning. The things we do to gratify elderly
people’s wants! Vicenta’s niece here for three days saw her grabber on
their arrival Tues, we tracked down a collapsible sort yesterday morning.
We hope to hand over tonight when we meet the guests!

Sincerely Chris
Penny
2019-10-23 16:49:03 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 10:41:53 GMT, Chris McMillan
Post by Chris McMillan
Post by Jenny M Benson
Post by Sid Nuncius
A chat group about an aspect of Amazon regularly chronicles the
inadequacies (to put it mildly) of Hermes.
--8<--
Post by Chris McMillan
Post by Jenny M Benson
I was just about to reply to Flop's post with "Was it Hermes by any chance?"
I put a knitting machine and ribbing attachment on eBay and opted for
the eBay-organized delivery option and was dismayed when it turned out
that meant Hermes as I had experienced their ineptitude before.
--8<--
Post by Chris McMillan
Hermes: we’ve seen how some Hermes drivers deal with their packages.
Nothing surprises us.
In defence of Hermes (what!?) it very much depends upon your local driver.
Ours is wonderful and chatty and generally a good egg (he's also related
to one of my neighbours so can readily find my house).

However, when he is on holiday, whichever colleague deps on his drops is
utterly useless, makes no attempt to find slightly obscure addresses (there
are loads around here) and lies about it on the tracking :(

I had good experiences with them in Kent too.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
Vicky Ayech
2019-10-23 10:26:52 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 10:20:21 +0100, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Flop
I am getting some idea about delivery times...
Ordered off of eBay.
Ready for courier collection same day.
Courier collected parcel *5* days later.
24hours from collection depot to delivery depot.
*10* days in delivery depot waiting to be sent out.
Contacted them to ask when delivery would be made.
They would not tell me because of Data Protection!!
Sender gave up and shipped a replacement.
Replacement arrived in 4days.
No sign of original.
No explanation.
A chat group about an aspect of Amazon regularly chronicles the
inadequacies (to put it mildly) of Hermes. So much gets "lost" (i.e.
nicked) that no-one expects The Spanish...er...nugger. Sorry. I meant,
no-one expects items dispatched via Hermes actually to arrive. It's a
cause for celebration if they do.
This morning someone suggested a recruitment slogan: "Were you one of
those children who knocked on people's doors and then ran away, just for
the fun of it? You could be a Hermes driver."
The mop camne via the PO
BrritSki
2019-10-23 11:24:41 UTC
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Post by Vicky Ayech
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 10:20:21 +0100, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
Post by Flop
I am getting some idea about delivery times...
Ordered off of eBay.
Ready for courier collection same day.
Courier collected parcel *5* days later.
24hours from collection depot to delivery depot.
*10* days in delivery depot waiting to be sent out.
Contacted them to ask when delivery would be made.
They would not tell me because of Data Protection!!
Sender gave up and shipped a replacement.
Replacement arrived in 4days.
No sign of original.
No explanation.
A chat group about an aspect of Amazon regularly chronicles the
inadequacies (to put it mildly) of Hermes. So much gets "lost" (i.e.
nicked) that no-one expects The Spanish...er...nugger. Sorry. I meant,
no-one expects items dispatched via Hermes actually to arrive. It's a
cause for celebration if they do.
This morning someone suggested a recruitment slogan: "Were you one of
those children who knocked on people's doors and then ran away, just for
the fun of it? You could be a Hermes driver."
The mop camne via the PO
So now you need to get some Flash(MOP)MOB to perform.
Serena Blanchflower
2019-10-23 12:01:56 UTC
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Post by Sid Nuncius
A chat group about an aspect of Amazon regularly chronicles the
inadequacies (to put it mildly) of Hermes.  So much gets "lost" (i.e.
nicked) that no-one expects The Spanish...er...nugger.  Sorry.  I meant,
no-one expects items dispatched via Hermes actually to arrive.  It's a
cause for celebration if they do.
This morning someone suggested a recruitment slogan:  "Were you one of
those children who knocked on people's doors and then ran away, just for
the fun of it?  You could be a Hermes driver."
Yes, that is very much their reputation but I think it does very much
depend on local staff. I seem to be lucky, that the normal Hermes
driver is excellent and I've never had a problem with them.

I did greatly embarrass one Amazon deliver driver, earlier this summer.
I think I'd been watching for him to arrive, having been notified that
he was nearby but, at any rate, I saw him approach the front door and I
was near enough to open it, just as he reached it. Trouble was, rather
than him having my parcel in his hand, he had a "Sorry you were out"
card instead! He'd assumed that the lack of a car in the drive meant I
wasn't at home and he'd given it to a neighbour instead (I assume he had
also been delivering to my neighbour).

He then had to do the walk of shame, back to my neighbour (who had been
watching this unfold, with great interest) to retrieve my parcel. He
must have been new to the route, as most of them have worked out that
I'm pretty much always at home but may answer the bedroom window, rather
than the door...
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Best wishes, Serena
Q. What do pixies and elves do after school?
A. Gnomework
Mike
2019-10-23 13:54:34 UTC
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Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Sid Nuncius
A chat group about an aspect of Amazon regularly chronicles the
inadequacies (to put it mildly) of Hermes.  So much gets "lost" (i.e.
nicked) that no-one expects The Spanish...er...nugger.  Sorry.  I meant,
no-one expects items dispatched via Hermes actually to arrive.  It's a
cause for celebration if they do.
This morning someone suggested a recruitment slogan:  "Were you one of
those children who knocked on people's doors and then ran away, just for
the fun of it?  You could be a Hermes driver."
Yes, that is very much their reputation but I think it does very much
depend on local staff. I seem to be lucky, that the normal Hermes
driver is excellent and I've never had a problem with them.
I did greatly embarrass one Amazon deliver driver, earlier this summer.
I think I'd been watching for him to arrive, having been notified that
he was nearby but, at any rate, I saw him approach the front door and I
was near enough to open it, just as he reached it. Trouble was, rather
than him having my parcel in his hand, he had a "Sorry you were out"
card instead! He'd assumed that the lack of a car in the drive meant I
wasn't at home and he'd given it to a neighbour instead (I assume he had
also been delivering to my neighbour).
He then had to do the walk of shame, back to my neighbour (who had been
watching this unfold, with great interest) to retrieve my parcel. He
must have been new to the route, as most of them have worked out that
I'm pretty much always at home but may answer the bedroom window, rather
than the door...
Do you let down your long locks?
--
Toodle Pip
Serena Blanchflower
2019-10-23 14:54:12 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Serena Blanchflower
Post by Sid Nuncius
A chat group about an aspect of Amazon regularly chronicles the
inadequacies (to put it mildly) of Hermes.  So much gets "lost" (i.e.
nicked) that no-one expects The Spanish...er...nugger.  Sorry.  I meant,
no-one expects items dispatched via Hermes actually to arrive.  It's a
cause for celebration if they do.
This morning someone suggested a recruitment slogan:  "Were you one of
those children who knocked on people's doors and then ran away, just for
the fun of it?  You could be a Hermes driver."
Yes, that is very much their reputation but I think it does very much
depend on local staff. I seem to be lucky, that the normal Hermes
driver is excellent and I've never had a problem with them.
I did greatly embarrass one Amazon deliver driver, earlier this summer.
I think I'd been watching for him to arrive, having been notified that
he was nearby but, at any rate, I saw him approach the front door and I
was near enough to open it, just as he reached it. Trouble was, rather
than him having my parcel in his hand, he had a "Sorry you were out"
card instead! He'd assumed that the lack of a car in the drive meant I
wasn't at home and he'd given it to a neighbour instead (I assume he had
also been delivering to my neighbour).
He then had to do the walk of shame, back to my neighbour (who had been
watching this unfold, with great interest) to retrieve my parcel. He
must have been new to the route, as most of them have worked out that
I'm pretty much always at home but may answer the bedroom window, rather
than the door...
Do you let down your long locks?
Sadly no, I don't have the right hair for that. I just let them know
that it'll take me a couple of minutes or so to reach the door. If they
don't need a signature they are likely to just leave the parcel and go
(sometimes checking first that I'm happy with that) or, failing that,
they're stuck on the doorstep till I can get down there.
--
Best wishes, Serena
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Fenny
2019-10-23 22:28:56 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 10:20:21 +0100, Sid Nuncius
Post by Sid Nuncius
A chat group about an aspect of Amazon regularly chronicles the
inadequacies (to put it mildly) of Hermes. So much gets "lost" (i.e.
nicked) that no-one expects The Spanish...er...nugger. Sorry. I meant,
no-one expects items dispatched via Hermes actually to arrive. It's a
cause for celebration if they do.
This morning someone suggested a recruitment slogan: "Were you one of
those children who knocked on people's doors and then ran away, just for
the fun of it? You could be a Hermes driver."
Not just Amazon parcels. I ordered some knitting wool - 4 separate
colours. My parcel arrived at the local Co-op [1] and I went and
picked it up on Saturday evening. On Sunday morning I went to open
the package and found that it had already been opened. There was a
pack of 1 colour of wool, but nothing else.

I've contacted the company. They said to wait until today in case
there were multiple parcels dispatched, then to let them know whether
I want a refund or a replacement.

Normally if they dispatch multiple parcels, it's noted in the email
confirming dispatch and also on the dispatch notes.

So I'll be emailing tomorrow to ask for replacements.

[1] Local pick up point at the top of the road. Easier than trying to
get them to deliver the parcels to the back of the house, rather than
leaving them on the front door step, in full view of the passing
school kids. And as I don't use the front door [2] and often arrive
home well after it's gone dark, I tend not to go looking for parcels
on the other side of the house.

[2] The front door *does* open, but only after moving several things
to make space to open it.
--
Fenny
Sam Plusnet
2019-10-24 21:29:23 UTC
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Post by Fenny
[1] Local pick up point at the top of the road. Easier than trying to
get them to deliver the parcels to the back of the house, rather than
leaving them on the front door step, in full view of the passing
school kids. And as I don't use the front door [2] and often arrive
home well after it's gone dark, I tend not to go looking for parcels
on the other side of the house.
I wonder how these (often quite small) shops manage to find room to hold
a big pile of parcels - a well as their own stock.
--
Sam Plusnet
Penny
2019-10-23 16:42:40 UTC
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On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 09:54:45 +0100, Flop <***@flop.knot.me.uk> scrawled in
the dust...
Post by Flop
Post by Sam Plusnet
Just that.
Back in the dawn of creation, any of those small adverts towards the
back of any newspaper or magazine would have that phrase somewhere near
the end of the text.
No-one today would find that acceptable, and we here at PlusNet Cottage
are thought eccentric because we're quite content to wait four or five
days for delivery (when it's free), and decline to pay for more instant
gratification.
Why do I bring this up?
Because Wofe ordered a replacement mesh cover for our recycling bin (the
old one was sacrificed in a hedgehog-related incident - don't ask) and
was told it would arrive in 8 weeks.
Other than the fact that a local authority is involved, I cannot imagine
why the supply of a standard item should take that long.
I am getting some idea about delivery times...
Ordered off of eBay.
Ready for courier collection same day.
Courier collected parcel *5* days later.
24hours from collection depot to delivery depot.
*10* days in delivery depot waiting to be sent out.
Contacted them to ask when delivery would be made.
They would not tell me because of Data Protection!!
Sender gave up and shipped a replacement.
Replacement arrived in 4days.
No sign of original.
No explanation.
Sounds like the ebay item I ordered from Ireland.
Tracking details showed it arrived in Chester (not that far from me) the
following day.
Then it trundled down to Princess Royal in That London and hung around
there for a couple of days before setting off to a W Midlands distribution
depot.
Left there, 'out for delivery'.
Returned to depot.
'Out for delivery' again and finally arrived here.
--
Penny
Annoyed by The Archers since 1959
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