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pong
2005-10-27 01:44:48 UTC
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ang aking masterpiece. basahin nyo uli ng mabuti.

ser/mam wag nyo nalang pansinin yung 2 dayuhan na yan - ipaubaya nyo
nalang sa akin. at ako din wag nyo nalang pansinin. katulad ng sinabi
ni JT - ignore nyo lang yung basura, o i-kill file nyo.

katunayan po nauunawaan ko ang inyong sinasabi. dahil lumaki ako sa
pamilya na 7 kaming akakapatid, kadalasan maingay ang pamamahay namin
kahit pag may bisita. parang narining ko uli yung nanay ko na sinasabi
"shhh kakahiya sa mga bisita". oo nga naman nakakahiya sa mga dayuhan.
pero naman kung yung bisita ay inabuso ang iyong mga kapatid at
ininsulto ang iyong mga magulang, ano naman kaya ang gagawin mo? siguro
panahon na para ilabas ang lumang itak at sunugin ang cedula, di po ba?
pagpasensyahan nyo po ang pagsulat ko nito kung hindi ko magawang purong
tagalog at kung minsan mas madali sa akin ang taglish, kaya lang baka
may madamay na bisita nga naman.

hindi siguro ninyo alam na yang 2 yan AY banyaga na nambu-bully at nag
te-terrorize ng mga tao na gusto magsalita dito. yung isa dinadaan sa
gilas niya mag inggles, at mahusay nga naman siya manginsulto sa inggles
ngunit wari ko di marunong ng tagalog o kahit anong salitang pinoy. at
dahil sa kitid ng kanyang utak, pagkawalang sopistikasyon at
pagka-ignorante at bigoted, palagay ko di din yan nakapag kolehiyo. sa
yung tuta naman niya, medyo marunong ng tagalog, pero tingin ko di
nakatapos ng mataas na paaralan yan kasi napaka krudo ng isipan at
napakabaho ng bunganga.

meron naman nagsasabi na siguro "weak" ang ego ko (paki tignan sa baba)
daw kasi di ko matanggap ang konting criticism. tanong ko naman "anong
criticism"? mabuti sana kung constructive ang sinasabi eh puro paninira,
pangaasar, pangiinsulto, pagmumura at pagpapataas ng sariling bangko ang
naririnig ko sa 2 dayuhan na yan. at isa pa, sabi ko nga "salamat sa
iyong amateur psychology" pero kung naaalala ko pa yung psych101 ko,
ibatay nalang natin sa tinatawag na "flight or fight impulse". pag ang
ego daw ng isang tao ay nasa panganib, kailangan niya mag desisyon kung
siya'y tatakbo o lalaban. pagkaintindi ko ay kadalasan kung mahina ang
ego ng tao, siya'y tatakbo, o tatahimik nalang. sa kabilang dako kung
ang ego naman ng tao ay napakalaki (inflated) wala siyang choice kundi
lumaban kasi sa kalooblooban niya alam niya na fragile ang ego niya at
nagiging sobrang depensib siya. Yung taong may kapangyarihan mamili,
usisain ang situasyon, at mag desisyon kung siya'y tatakbo o lalaban ay
yung nasa gitna - yung katamtaman lang ang ego, kung baga. Para sa
akin, pinipili kong lumaban kaysa tumakbo.

sa kalagitnaan ng bundok cordilyera meron isang makitid na daanan na
mula pa ng panahon ng mga ninuno natin ay naging main connection ng
ilocos at cagayan valley. ang lupa sa makasaysayang lugar na ito ay
diniligan ng dugo ng mga 60 ilocanos and a few tagalogs, among them a
young general from bulacan named gregorio del pilar. they spilled their
blood in that hallowed strip of ground called Tirad Pass against a
superior american force (of 500) to buy time for aguinaldo to escape.
(http://www.kernersville.us/project/wikipedia/index.php/Battle_of_Tirad_Pass)
maaaring sabihin natin na sadyang sinayang lang nila ang buhay nila kasi
sa kaduluduluhan natalo din tayo ng mga americano. siguro nga - pero
sasabihin ba natin na sinayang nila rizal, bonifacio at mabini ang mga
buhay nila kasi hanggang ngayon ang isipan natin at maka-pyudal pa rin?
oo katunayang sayang ang buhay nila kung hindi natin sila tatandaan at
igagalang ang kahulugan ng kanilang paglaban at sakripisyo, at kung
papayagan lang natin na abusuhin tayo, duraan, at tapaktapakan ng mga
nagaakalang mas magaling sila sa atin kasi banyaga sila.

oo tutoo at di mapagkaila na tayo'y may mga problema bilang
sangkatauhan. sa loob ba naman ng mahigit na 300 taon na pagaabuso sa
atin, at sa pagkawala ng ating pinakamabubuti at pinakamatatapang na
kababayan sa paglaban noong 1898 at ulit nong 1900 pag dating ng mga
amerikano, natuto tayo makibagay, magpakumbaba, mag "yes ser, yes mam"
upang mag survive. kung isipin po ninyo, bukod pa sa mga bayaning
nagbuwis ng kanilang buhay laban sa espanya, napilitang maglagay ng
mahigit 50 mil na sundalo ang mga amerikano upang isupil ang ating mga
matatapang na kababayan. minsan nakakakilabot isipin - inisip ko lang
minsan "kelan kaya ang huling panahon na nagkaroon ng pride ang mga
pinoy? maliban sa EDSA, at di siguro mabuting example yan kasi sa
manila lang naman nangyari yan, sa palagay ko the last time was when we
kicked spain out. minsan sinusubukan ko ilagay yung sarili ko sa
panahon na yon. imagine, tinalo natin ang isang world power! (kahit ano
pang sabihin nila na excuse kung paano tayo nanalo) and if you read f.
sionil jose's ("Dusk") characterization of what our people were like at
the time and how we were treated by our colonial masters - we had just
won our freedom from slavery in our own land. what a feeling it must
have been, mixed with the loss of our best and bravest men and women,
but what a feeling of pride our people must have had for that brief
moment. Kaya nga siguro hindi na sila nag isip pa ng 2 beses na labanan
nila ang mga americano pag dating nila. (katunayan din na kung nanalo
ang democratic party noong eleksyon ng 1900 sa amerika, ang plataporma
nila ay para sa hindi sakupin ang pilipinas. sabi nila na "how can a
country that won it's freedom from tyranny in all concience occupy
another country that has just won it's freedom?" kaya lang dahil sa
isang mining disaster sa east coast nanalo ang mga republicans) ano? -
kaka panalo lang namin, kakalaya pa lang namin sasakupin ulit ninyo
kami? di na oy. 50 mil na sundalong americano ang kinailangan, at sa
kaduluduluhan, maliban sa mga namundok at tuluyang nag gerilya, mahigit
200,000 (mga 16,000 ang sundalo daw, yung iba sibilyan) sa atin
inakamatapang na lalaki at babae ang namatay sa gyerang yon. kung
isipin nyo na ang populasyon ng pilipinas noong 1900 ay mga 8 million
ang (http://www.gfmer.ch/Books/bookmp/205.htm), di natin masukat o
ma-imagine man ang impact ng pagkawala ng mga yan sa ating gene pool.
sila ang marunong lumaban, sila ang hindi magpapasupil, at ang naiwan ay
ang mga katulad natin, na marunong yumuko, makibagay, lunukin ang pride
- pero oo nga naman, nag survive tayo. yon ang survival skills natin
bilang pinoy - marunong ngumiti, tumawa, pag ninanakawan na tayo ng
presidente natin anong ginagawa natin? magiisip ng erap jokes.

("Filipino soldiers were not the only ones to bear the brunt of American
brutality. Approximately 200,000 Filipino civilians were also killed in
the conflict; estimates range as high as several million. Many died from
starvation and disease caused by the war, but in many cases American
soldiers were more directly responsible. Rape, looting, and murder often
followed the capture of towns."
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/9782/atrocities.htm )

Interesting na sa mga araw na ito, may 2 pangyayar na parang nagkasabay
- una ang pagkamatay ni Rosa Parks sa Detroit, na mga 90+ yrs old na
siya, "of natural causes" sabi nga nila; at pangalawa ang pagaabot na ng
2,000 ang mga namatay na sundalong amerikano sa iraq. ang pinakitang
tapang ni rosa parks na hindi tumayo sa bus at ibigay ang kanyang upuan
sa isang puti, at ang pagkaaresto sa kanya at pagkabilanggo, ang naging
pasimula ng civil rights movement, at naginspire kay martin luther king
- isang mahinang babae na may tapang at lakas ng loob. sa iraq 2,000 na
ang namamatay dahil sa obsession ng presidente na mag revenge para sa
9-11. minsan naiisip ko ang mga pangyayari ng 9-11 dahil nagbago lahat
ng buhay natin dahil doon. naalala nyo pa ba noong unang panahon eh
pwede ka dumating sa airport kahit 30 mins bago lumipad? ngayon
kailangan siguraduhin mong walang butas ang medyas mo dahil pihado
pahuhubaran ka ng sapatos. yung mga wise nga nagtsi-tsinelas nalang
para walang gulo.

naiisip ko lang kasi kung tuusin mo, sa 4 na eroplano na na-hijack ng
mga terrorista, 3 ang umabot sa target nila, 2 sa world trade at 1 sa
pentagon. yung pang 4 nag crash sa isang field sa pennsylvania. ano ang
pinagkaiba nitong isa? simple lang. doon sa 3 walang ginawa ang mga
pasahero dahil sa takot at intimidation. yung isa, lumaban ang mga
pasahero, at oo nga nahulog din ang eroplano pero hindi nagwagi ang mga
terrorista. mula noong 9-11 pinasya ko na kung ako'y magiging pasahero
at ma hijack ang eroplano ko, unang pagkakataon ko pag di sila
nakatingin, hahampasin ko ng kahit anong makuha ko, kahit sapatos ko
lang, luluksuhin ko at lalabanan ko kahi kagatin ko lang ng pustiso ko
hehe. in other words, i would try to do something, and get the other
passengers to join in. bahala na diba kasi patay na din naman kayong
lahat at that point. in other words, as they say, "the only thing for
tyranny to triumph is for good people to do nothing", and to paraphrase,
the only thing for bullies to win is for people not to stand to them.
after all bullying is just another, more juvenile, form of terrorism, diba?

Growing up I did not have many exposures to bullying - i went to a small
convent school, where the whole GRADE, not just class, was about 20
students. we were so few, we mostly picked on the girls until after a
while we started to find them sexy. In high school i observed many
incidents of bullying, but luckily was seldom the target. maybe it was
because i was never the smallest in class, or maybe it was because a few
people knew that i started carrying a switch blade in second year, or
maybe it was because most people knew that one of my good friends
carried a gun, or maybe i was just lucky. but i was mugged once and
robbed another time, beaten up by 4 men once... so i know a little bit
about what it is to be a victim. i also saw on a couple of rare
occations, where the bully, when he had to fight one on one without his
gang to back him up, would be throwing all sorts of karate kicks and
stuff but would end up the one crying because the other guy would simply
not back down. bullies are like that. matatapang yan pag may mga
kasama pero pag na isolate na sila, wala na, iiyak iyak na yan. o kaya
sasaksakin ka sa likod, kaya ingat ka din. ganunpaman, para sa akin ang
tanging paraan para mag deal sa mga bullies ay lumaban, kahit masaktan
ka or bugbugin ka. kasi kung di ka lalaban baka isang araw kunin mo
nalang ang baril mo at barilin mo lahat ng tao sa paligid, tulad ng
nangyari sa columbine.

kaya ser/mam, ipagpaliban nyo nalang po sa akin yang dalawang dayuhan na
yan. ignore nyo nalang po kami. paglalaruan ko lang sila. wala naman
sa akin yan basta may 5 o 10 sandali ako tuwing makalawa sagutin ang mga
mabababaw nilang insulto at mga tahol. habang nakatutok sa akin ang
atensyon nila, at least okupado siguro ang mga 2-3 oras nila sa kawalang
buhay nila sa paguusisa at paghahanap ng diksyonaryo at thesaurus upang
uanawain ang mga sinasabi ko. habang okupado sila at gulong-gulo sa
pagbabawi sa mga kataga ko eh di nababawasan naman ang pineperwisyo
nilang ibang tao. sa cost-benefit, patas na siguro kami. at saka wag ka
mag alala kasi di ko naman gagawin yan full time - minsan-minsan lang
kasi medyo entertaining kung minsan - para kang nakikipag chess sa isang
bata o nakikipagtalo sa unggoy- makakatuwa pero nakakasawa din pag
paulit-ulit lang. anyway katulad ng sinabi ko gusto ko lang ilantad ang
kabuktutan nila at ang kanilang petty tyrrany and pagka bankrupt ng
kanilang isipan at moralidad. pero syempre di ko magagawa yan habang
buhay at minsan kailangan din po ako magbakasyon. :)

ser/mam pagpasensyan po ninyo at bigyan ng paumanhin ang maaaring
nangyaring pagistorbo namin sa katahimikan ninyo. ibalato mo na sa akin
yang 2 yan at ako ang bahala sa kanila.

salamat po.
el bizcochito
2005-10-27 05:37:28 UTC
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Post by pong
ang aking masterpiece. basahin nyo uli ng mabuti.
Growing up I did not have many exposures to bullying - i went to a small
convent school, where the whole GRADE, not just class, was about 20
students.
= = =


me toooo

the moment i saw this guy nailed on the cross
i knew then my uncle means business...couldnt care less about the
girls...BYE BYE



dj K
Cheeze
2005-10-27 08:51:22 UTC
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Short reply: Very napoleonic speech. How tall are you pong?
Post by pong
ang aking masterpiece. basahin nyo uli ng mabuti.
ser/mam wag nyo nalang pansinin yung 2 dayuhan na yan - ipaubaya nyo
nalang sa akin. at ako din wag nyo nalang pansinin. katulad ng sinabi
ni JT - ignore nyo lang yung basura, o i-kill file nyo.
Nag SCF ka pa kung ibabasura mo rin lahat. Hindi ito pang-orgy na
lahat tayo nagpupurian. Bawal ang balat-sibuyas!
Post by pong
hindi siguro ninyo alam na yang 2 yan AY banyaga na nambu-bully at nag
te-terrorize ng mga tao na gusto magsalita dito. yung isa dinadaan sa
gilas niya mag inggles, at mahusay nga naman siya manginsulto sa inggles
ngunit wari ko di marunong ng tagalog o kahit anong salitang pinoy. at
dahil sa kitid ng kanyang utak, pagkawalang sopistikasyon at
pagka-ignorante at bigoted, palagay ko di din yan nakapag kolehiyo. sa
yung tuta naman niya, medyo marunong ng tagalog, pero tingin ko di
nakatapos ng mataas na paaralan yan kasi napaka krudo ng isipan at
napakabaho ng bunganga.
Sino ka para manghusga?
Post by pong
meron naman nagsasabi na siguro "weak" ang ego ko (paki tignan sa baba)
daw kasi di ko matanggap ang konting criticism. tanong ko naman "anong
criticism"? mabuti sana kung constructive ang sinasabi eh puro paninira,
pangaasar, pangiinsulto, pagmumura at pagpapataas ng sariling bangko ang
naririnig ko sa 2 dayuhan na yan. at isa pa, sabi ko nga "salamat sa
iyong amateur psychology" pero kung naaalala ko pa yung psych101 ko,
ibatay nalang natin sa tinatawag na "flight or fight impulse". pag ang
ego daw ng isang tao ay nasa panganib, kailangan niya mag desisyon kung
siya'y tatakbo o lalaban. pagkaintindi ko ay kadalasan kung mahina ang
ego ng tao, siya'y tatakbo, o tatahimik nalang. sa kabilang dako kung
ang ego naman ng tao ay napakalaki (inflated) wala siyang choice kundi
lumaban kasi sa kalooblooban niya alam niya na fragile ang ego niya at
nagiging sobrang depensib siya. Yung taong may kapangyarihan mamili,
usisain ang situasyon, at mag desisyon kung siya'y tatakbo o lalaban ay
yung nasa gitna - yung katamtaman lang ang ego, kung baga. Para sa
akin, pinipili kong lumaban kaysa tumakbo.
Mag maganda kang halimbawa sa baba pa ng obra mo. Sa columbine ba ang
tingin mo sa mga lumaban ay may "strong ego"?

Kung gusto mo ng halimbawa ng strong ego, puwede kong ihalimbawa si
Tansong Isda. Matinding kalaban din yan ni Rose, at hindi talaga
umuurong yan. Pero kung sumagot siya, hindi siya nag-aaksaya ng
salita. At dahil dyan, bagamat hindi lahat dito ay sang-ayon sa
pananaw niya, naniniwala ako na lahat ay inirerespeto sya.
Post by pong
sa kalagitnaan ng bundok cordilyera meron isang makitid na daanan na
mula pa ng panahon ng mga ninuno natin ay naging main connection ng
ilocos at cagayan valley. ang lupa sa makasaysayang lugar na ito ay
diniligan ng dugo ng mga 60 ilocanos and a few tagalogs, among them a
young general from bulacan named gregorio del pilar. they spilled their
blood in that hallowed strip of ground called Tirad Pass against a
superior american force (of 500) to buy time for aguinaldo to escape.
(http://www.kernersville.us/project/wikipedia/index.php/Battle_of_Tirad_Pass)
maaaring sabihin natin na sadyang sinayang lang nila ang buhay nila kasi
sa kaduluduluhan natalo din tayo ng mga americano. siguro nga - pero
sasabihin ba natin na sinayang nila rizal, bonifacio at mabini ang mga
buhay nila kasi hanggang ngayon ang isipan natin at maka-pyudal pa rin?
oo katunayang sayang ang buhay nila kung hindi natin sila tatandaan at
igagalang ang kahulugan ng kanilang paglaban at sakripisyo, at kung
papayagan lang natin na abusuhin tayo, duraan, at tapaktapakan ng mga
nagaakalang mas magaling sila sa atin kasi banyaga sila.
Kaya dapat tayo ang manapak at mang-abuso.
Post by pong
oo tutoo at di mapagkaila na tayo'y may mga problema bilang
sangkatauhan. sa loob ba naman ng mahigit na 300 taon na pagaabuso sa
atin, at sa pagkawala ng ating pinakamabubuti at pinakamatatapang na
kababayan sa paglaban noong 1898 at ulit nong 1900 pag dating ng mga
amerikano, natuto tayo makibagay, magpakumbaba, mag "yes ser, yes mam"
upang mag survive. kung isipin po ninyo, bukod pa sa mga bayaning
nagbuwis ng kanilang buhay laban sa espanya, napilitang maglagay ng
mahigit 50 mil na sundalo ang mga amerikano upang isupil ang ating mga
matatapang na kababayan. minsan nakakakilabot isipin - inisip ko lang
minsan "kelan kaya ang huling panahon na nagkaroon ng pride ang mga
pinoy? maliban sa EDSA, at di siguro mabuting example yan kasi sa
manila lang naman nangyari yan, sa palagay ko the last time was when we
kicked spain out. minsan sinusubukan ko ilagay yung sarili ko sa
panahon na yon. imagine, tinalo natin ang isang world power!
reality check: tinalo sila ng kano.
Post by pong
(kahit ano
pang sabihin nila na excuse kung paano tayo nanalo) and if you read f.
sionil jose's ("Dusk") characterization of what our people were like at
the time and how we were treated by our colonial masters - we had just
won our freedom from slavery in our own land. ...
Interesting na sa mga araw na ito, may 2 pangyayar na parang nagkasabay
- una ang pagkamatay ni Rosa Parks sa Detroit, na mga 90+ yrs old na
siya, "of natural causes" sabi nga nila; at pangalawa ang pagaabot na ng
2,000 ang mga namatay na sundalong amerikano sa iraq. ang pinakitang
tapang ni rosa parks na hindi tumayo sa bus at ibigay ang kanyang upuan
sa isang puti, at ang pagkaaresto sa kanya at pagkabilanggo, ang naging
pasimula ng civil rights movement, at naginspire kay martin luther king
- isang mahinang babae na may tapang at lakas ng loob. sa iraq 2,000 na
ang namamatay dahil sa obsession ng presidente na mag revenge para sa
9-11. minsan naiisip ko ang mga pangyayari ng 9-11 dahil nagbago lahat
ng buhay natin dahil doon.
Nabasa kasi ni Bush tung speech mo. Kaya alam mo naman, hindi siya
dapat magpatalo.
Post by pong
naiisip ko lang kasi kung tuusin mo, sa 4 na eroplano na na-hijack ng
mga terrorista, 3 ang umabot sa target nila, 2 sa world trade at 1 sa
pentagon. yung pang 4 nag crash sa isang field sa pennsylvania. ano ang
pinagkaiba nitong isa? simple lang. doon sa 3 walang ginawa ang mga
pasahero dahil sa takot at intimidation. yung isa, lumaban ang mga
pasahero, at oo nga nahulog din ang eroplano pero hindi nagwagi ang mga
terrorista. mula noong 9-11 pinasya ko na kung ako'y magiging pasahero
at ma hijack ang eroplano ko, unang pagkakataon ko pag di sila
nakatingin, hahampasin ko ng kahit anong makuha ko, kahit sapatos ko
lang, luluksuhin ko at lalabanan ko kahi kagatin ko lang ng pustiso ko
hehe. in other words, i would try to do something, and get the other
passengers to join in. bahala na diba kasi patay na din naman kayong
lahat at that point. in other words, as they say, "the only thing for
tyranny to triumph is for good people to do nothing", and to paraphrase,
the only thing for bullies to win is for people not to stand to them.
after all bullying is just another, more juvenile, form of terrorism, diba?
At dahil patay na rin naman tayong lahat at this point, flame war na
lang.
Post by pong
Growing up I did not have many exposures to bullying - i went to a small
convent school, where the whole GRADE, not just class, was about 20
students. we were so few, we mostly picked on the girls until after a
while we started to find them sexy. In high school i observed many
incidents of bullying, but luckily was seldom the target. maybe it was
because i was never the smallest in class, or maybe it was because a few
people knew that i started carrying a switch blade in second year, or
maybe it was because most people knew that one of my good friends
carried a gun, or maybe i was just lucky.
So now we know who the bully is.
Post by pong
but i was mugged once and
robbed another time, beaten up by 4 men once... so i know a little bit
about what it is to be a victim. i also saw on a couple of rare
occations, where the bully, when he had to fight one on one without his
gang to back him up, would be throwing all sorts of karate kicks and
stuff but would end up the one crying because the other guy would simply
not back down. bullies are like that. matatapang yan pag may mga
kasama pero pag na isolate na sila, wala na, iiyak iyak na yan. o kaya
sasaksakin ka sa likod, kaya ingat ka din. ganunpaman, para sa akin ang
tanging paraan para mag deal sa mga bullies ay lumaban, kahit masaktan
ka or bugbugin ka. kasi kung di ka lalaban baka isang araw kunin mo
nalang ang baril mo at barilin mo lahat ng tao sa paligid, tulad ng
nangyari sa columbine.
Pare, ito seryosong usapan. mahilig ka bang magbasa? Kung maari paki
basa ang Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader. Merong
thema don na angkop sa pinag-uusapan mo. At kung nabasa mo na siya,
ano ang pananaw mo sa dragon?

Oh, and like I said, napoleonic. It is not enough for you to fight.
You have to be a noble hero defender of the oppressed. That would
probably work for those who didn't know how this all started. But
you're fighting for your right to spam. And to protect a bruised ego.

Nobody is a tyrannical dictator here. Pa-victim ka naman masyado.
gma
2005-10-27 13:34:27 UTC
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so whats your stand on rose extreme diatribes?
Dirty-Sick-Pig
2005-10-28 01:34:40 UTC
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Post by gma
so whats your stand on rose extreme diatribes?
What's your stand on Kurakot's extreme diatribes?

What is your stand on YOUR OWN extreme diatribes?

Tingnan nga natin ang takbo ng utak mo.
Cheeze
2005-10-28 02:19:54 UTC
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Post by gma
so whats your stand on rose extreme diatribes?
I agreed with her before on capitalism issues. Disagreed with her
extreme hate for muslims (though having read on islam, I kinda
understand where she's coming from). But mostly I believe she makes
contributions that are worth reading.
Dirty-Sick-Pig
2005-10-28 04:07:47 UTC
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Post by Cheeze
Post by gma
so whats your stand on rose extreme diatribes?
I agreed with her before on capitalism issues. Disagreed with her
extreme hate for muslims (though having read on islam, I kinda
understand where she's coming from). But mostly I believe she makes
contributions that are worth reading.
Du yu rid her posts as "Sylvia Knoerr?"

Freddie Pig Jackson
Sylvia Knörr
2005-10-31 23:15:12 UTC
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Post by Dirty-Sick-Pig
Post by Cheeze
Post by gma
so whats your stand on rose extreme diatribes?
I agreed with her before on capitalism issues. Disagreed with her
extreme hate for muslims (though having read on islam, I kinda
understand where she's coming from). But mostly I believe she makes
contributions that are worth reading.
Du yu rid her posts as "Sylvia Knoerr?"
Freddie Pig Jackson
<sigh>

This Schweinehund has no respect for good names. :-(

Anonymus Piggy
Curious Freakazoid
2005-10-27 17:02:06 UTC
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I thought newsgroups were supposed to be forums for sharing "news".

May cliques na rin pala dito.
r calderon
2005-10-28 02:57:02 UTC
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more like rightwing/ or the pro business minimalized govt clique .
Cheeze
2005-10-28 03:00:10 UTC
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Post by r calderon
more like rightwing/ or the pro business minimalized govt clique .
Hey that's why you're here. To present the other side.

Point is, if you're pro poor - you are ultimately promoting and
encouraging poverty.
Dirty-Sick-pig
2005-10-28 03:15:59 UTC
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im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal or anti
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in govt
too in theory.
Cheeze
2005-10-28 03:20:11 UTC
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Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal or anti
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in govt
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
Patricia javier
2005-10-28 03:21:48 UTC
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pong im ping
Dirty-Sick-Pig
2005-10-28 05:09:35 UTC
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Post by Patricia javier
pong im ping
end aym yur worst naytmeyr, pig ,m
--
"You mock patriotism, honor, duty, and country and then wonder why there
are traitors among us."
pong
2005-10-28 16:47:22 UTC
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wow saan komiks mo napulot yan? tiktik o liwayway? lol!
Post by Dirty-Sick-Pig
Post by Patricia javier
pong im ping
end aym yur worst naytmeyr, pig ,m
--
"You mock patriotism, honor, duty, and country and then wonder why there
are traitors among us."
Dirty-Sick-Pig
2005-10-28 05:08:18 UTC
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Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal or anti
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in govt
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
They're bossom buddies. I mean, cock buddies.

(I hate it when cloners mispell my monica-er.)

Lewinskee Pig
pong
2005-10-28 16:46:23 UTC
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uuuyyy selos naman siya. hehe
Post by Dirty-Sick-Pig
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal or anti
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in govt
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
They're bossom buddies. I mean, cock buddies.
(I hate it when cloners mispell my monica-er.)
Lewinskee Pig
pong
2005-10-28 16:48:16 UTC
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Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal or anti
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in govt
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
Cheeze
2005-11-03 06:13:53 UTC
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Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal or anti
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in govt
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to who
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
pong
2005-11-03 17:54:01 UTC
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Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal or anti
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in govt
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to who
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any of your
friends.
Cheeze
2005-11-04 01:31:45 UTC
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Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal or
anti
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to who
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any of your
friends.
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
pong
2005-11-04 02:21:59 UTC
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Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal
or
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
anti
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to who
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any of your
friends.
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
opo senyor
Cheeze
2005-11-04 02:21:32 UTC
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Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt
is
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal
or
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
anti
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace
in
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to who
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any of
your
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
friends.
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.

C'mon say it again. :-)
pong
2005-11-04 18:01:51 UTC
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Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt
is
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal
or
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
anti
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace
in
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to who
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any of
your
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
friends.
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
no i will let you have the last word
Cheeze
2005-11-05 01:55:04 UTC
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Post by Curious Freakazoid
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the
clique
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
is
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal
or
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
anti
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and
balace
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
in
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce
yourself to
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to
who
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any
of
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
your
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
friends.
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from
others.
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
no i will let you have the last word
Thanks! :-)
Love you too pong.
Sylvia Knörr
2005-11-05 02:05:56 UTC
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Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
no i will let you have the last word
Thanks! :-)
Love you too pong.
You guys are funny. :-))

Time For A Group Hug? Piggy
Cheeze
2005-11-05 03:17:00 UTC
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Post by Cheeze
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize
that
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim
handicapped
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
no i will let you have the last word
Thanks! :-)
Love you too pong.
You guys are funny. :-))
Time For A Group Hug? Piggy
We prefer ordinariness challenged. :-)
Sylvia Knörr
2005-11-06 01:34:04 UTC
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Post by Cheeze
Post by Sylvia Knörr
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
no i will let you have the last word
Thanks! :-)
Love you too pong.
You guys are funny. :-))
Time For A Group Hug? Piggy
We prefer ordinariness challenged. :-)
Does this include cross dressing? ;-)

Voyeuristic Piggy
pong
2005-11-07 01:52:04 UTC
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Post by Cheeze
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize
that
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim
handicapped
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
no i will let you have the last word
Thanks! :-)
Love you too pong.
You guys are funny. :-))
Time For A Group Hug? Piggy
mabahong babae lol!
Sylvia Knörr
2005-11-11 02:40:46 UTC
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Post by pong
Post by Sylvia Knörr
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize
that sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim
handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
no i will let you have the last word
Thanks! :-)
Love you too pong.
You guys are funny. :-))
Time For A Group Hug? Piggy
mabahong babae lol!
oops...:-))
pong
2005-11-11 17:54:10 UTC
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once again that was not my post - that came from the little pussy, KSP.
Post by Sylvia Knörr
Post by pong
Post by Sylvia Knörr
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize
that sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim
handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
no i will let you have the last word
Thanks! :-)
Love you too pong.
You guys are funny. :-))
Time For A Group Hug? Piggy
mabahong babae lol!
oops...:-))
Sylvia Knörr
2005-11-15 01:04:01 UTC
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Post by pong
Post by Sylvia Knörr
Post by pong
Post by Sylvia Knörr
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize
that sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim
handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
no i will let you have the last word
Thanks! :-)
Love you too pong.
You guys are funny. :-))
Time For A Group Hug? Piggy
mabahong babae lol!
oops...:-))
once again that was not my post - that came from the little pussy, KSP.
You mean DSP? What's the "K" standing for?

"K"ompuse Piggy
pong
2005-11-16 00:35:40 UTC
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Post by Sylvia Knörr
Post by pong
Post by Sylvia Knörr
Post by pong
Post by Sylvia Knörr
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize
that sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim
handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from
others.
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
no i will let you have the last word
Thanks! :-)
Love you too pong.
You guys are funny. :-))
Time For A Group Hug? Piggy
mabahong babae lol!
oops...:-))
once again that was not my post - that came from the little pussy, KSP.
You mean DSP? What's the "K" standing for?
"K"ompuse Piggy
"K"= kulang, "S"=sa, "P"=pansin
translation: someone who did not get enough attention as a child and now
will do anything to get people's attention
Sylvia Knörr
2005-11-21 02:05:29 UTC
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Post by pong
Post by Sylvia Knörr
Post by pong
Post by Sylvia Knörr
Post by pong
Post by Sylvia Knörr
You guys are funny. :-))
Time For A Group Hug? Piggy
mabahong babae lol!
oops...:-))
once again that was not my post - that came from the little pussy, KSP.
You mean DSP? What's the "K" standing for?
"K"= kulang, "S"=sa, "P"=pansin
translation: someone who did not get enough attention as a child and now
will do anything to get people's attention
Tagalog has a term for neglected children? Cool! :-)
BTW - I think it's okay to seek attention, it's a natural human urge. We are
social animals and we get sick if we get no attention at all. What other
reason do we have to post on usenet? :-))

Unnoticed Public Piggy

pong
2005-11-07 01:51:24 UTC
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Post by Curious Freakazoid
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Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
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Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the
clique
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
is
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal
or
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
anti
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and
balace
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
in
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce
yourself to
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to
who
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any
of
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
your
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
friends.
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from
others.
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
no i will let you have the last word
and the next and the next lol!
pong
2005-11-07 01:50:32 UTC
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Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt
is
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal
or
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
anti
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace
in
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to who
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any of
your
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
friends.
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
opo senyor lol!
Cheeze
2005-11-07 03:00:12 UTC
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Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt
is
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal
or
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
anti
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
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worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace
in
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Post by pong
govt
Post by Cheeze
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Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to who
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any of
your
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
friends.
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
opo senyor lol!
And again... :-)
pong
2005-11-07 17:59:07 UTC
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ano ako naman ang uutuin ng isang mababaw na katulad mo?
mangarap ka pa senor
lol
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im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt
is
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal
or
Post by Cheeze
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anti
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace
in
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to who
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any of
your
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
friends.
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
opo senyor lol!
And again... :-)
Cheeze
2005-11-07 23:46:18 UTC
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Uno mas, por favor! :-)
Post by pong
ano ako naman ang uutuin ng isang mababaw na katulad mo?
mangarap ka pa senor
lol
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im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt
is
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal
or
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anti
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace
in
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself
to
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
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Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to
who
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any
of
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
your
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
friends.
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from
others.
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
opo senyor lol!
And again... :-)
pong
2005-11-08 00:36:30 UTC
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ngek! hehe
Post by Cheeze
Uno mas, por favor! :-)
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ano ako naman ang uutuin ng isang mababaw na katulad mo?
mangarap ka pa senor
lol
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Post by Cheeze
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im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt
is
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal
or
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
anti
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace
in
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself
to
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
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Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to
who
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any
of
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
your
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
friends.
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from
others.
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
:-)
opo senyor
Yup, you have to have the last word right.
C'mon say it again. :-)
opo senyor lol!
And again... :-)
Cheeze
2005-11-08 06:02:12 UTC
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ngek! hehe
Uuuuy, that's it! We're only doing this for fun!
:-)
pong
2005-11-08 18:04:21 UTC
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aha! nakahalata din sa wakas. tinagalog - iningglis - di pa rin ma gets.
paynali!
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Post by pong
ngek! hehe
Uuuuy, that's it! We're only doing this for fun!
:-)
Cheeze
2005-11-09 02:52:36 UTC
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Post by pong
aha! nakahalata din sa wakas. tinagalog - iningglis - di pa rin ma gets.
paynali!
What you thought I wasn't having fun? Why'd you think you didn't get
killfiled? :-)

Te amo mucho pong! :-D
pong
2005-11-09 17:23:42 UTC
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aha! nakahalata din sa wakas. tinagalog - iningglis - di pa rin ma gets.
paynali!
What you thought I wasn't having fun? Why'd you think you didn't get
killfiled? :-)
Te amo mucho pong! :-D
senor, suggestion ko sa iyo, wag mo na ako pag abalahan ng panahon at hindi
ako mabuting subject para diyan sa research paper mo. at kung may crush ka
man sa akin, eh sa iba mo nalang ibigay ang iyong atensyon. kung single
woman ka sana with nice legs and of child bearing age, eh baka mainteres pa
ako - kaso judgemental ka nga at *palagay ko* (ie in my opinion)
fault-finder kaya wag nalang kaya.

napapangisi ako kasi naalala ko yung sinabi ni jean-claude van damme sa
"Hard Target" na parang nararapat sabihin dito - (in his Dutch accent) "Why
don you take your beeg steek and your boypren and find a bus to catch?"
Cheeze
2005-11-10 02:41:58 UTC
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aha! nakahalata din sa wakas. tinagalog - iningglis - di pa rin ma
gets.
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Post by pong
paynali!
What you thought I wasn't having fun? Why'd you think you didn't get
killfiled? :-)
Te amo mucho pong! :-D
senor, suggestion ko sa iyo, wag mo na ako pag abalahan ng panahon at hindi
ako mabuting subject para diyan sa research paper mo. at kung may crush ka
man sa akin, eh sa iba mo nalang ibigay ang iyong atensyon. kung single
woman ka sana with nice legs and of child bearing age, eh baka mainteres pa
ako - kaso judgemental ka nga at *palagay ko* (ie in my opinion)
fault-finder kaya wag nalang kaya.
napapangisi ako kasi naalala ko yung sinabi ni jean-claude van damme sa
"Hard Target" na parang nararapat sabihin dito - (in his Dutch accent) "Why
don you take your beeg steek and your boypren and find a bus to catch?"
Okay! Sure manure! Whatever you say!
Gawsh. I was just trying to cure you of your unfathomable obsession
with the dutch.
LeeBat
2005-11-10 10:17:14 UTC
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Gawsh. I was just trying to cure you of your unfathomable obsession
with the dutch.
What is unfathomable about wanting to stick your finger into a dyke?

LoloBat
conpuse again ......
Cheeze
2005-11-11 01:39:41 UTC
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Post by Cheeze
Gawsh. I was just trying to cure you of your unfathomable obsession
with the dutch.
What is unfathomable about wanting to stick your finger into a dyke?
LoloBat
conpuse again ......
I was going to follow up with a joke from the Austin Powers movie, but
that one just takes the cake. :-)
pong
2005-11-07 01:49:53 UTC
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im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal or
anti
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in
govt
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to who
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
Thank you for calling me thick - and not interested in meeting any of your
friends.
You would be thankful for being thick. Yes why didn't I realize that
sooner. The point of your posts is that you are a victim handicapped
by thickness, and you use that reasoning to demand respect from others.
:-)
i doant unerstand lol!
pong
2005-11-07 01:48:49 UTC
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im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal or anti
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in govt
too in theory.
Heck I'm all for you being here. And please introduce yourself to
Pong. :-)
aba nagsipsipan lol!
If you weren't so thick you'd realize that I'm introducing you to who
will probably be your best fan here. Pong, meet the resident
pig-hater, Renowl.
sipsipbuto lol!
Dirty-Sick-Pig
2005-10-28 05:05:59 UTC
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im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal or anti
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in govt
too in theory.
Kill Halliburton and its Kellog, Burns & Roe subsidiary!

Prepare for over EIGHT THOUSAND suddenly unemployed Pinoy OCWs!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahawr! GUNGGONG! ULOL!
pong
2005-10-28 20:44:46 UTC
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ok lang mr yabang puppy, kung nangaapi lang sila at tulad mo nangiinsulto ng
mga pinoy at mababaw din, eh di mabuti pa. bow-wow? sige now lie down and
play dead good doggie.
Post by Dirty-Sick-Pig
Post by Dirty-Sick-pig
im anti sweatshop anti corpocracy. more member of the clique
whose aim is to be the checker and balacer of business
interest.business is good but somebody has to make sure govt is
there to stop em if business becomes too abusive, garapal or anti
worker. nothing wrong with that . there is check and balace in govt
too in theory.
Kill Halliburton and its Kellog, Burns & Roe subsidiary!
Prepare for over EIGHT THOUSAND suddenly unemployed Pinoy OCWs!
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahawr! GUNGGONG! ULOL!
pong
2005-10-28 17:31:33 UTC
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Post by Curious Freakazoid
I thought newsgroups were supposed to be forums for sharing "news".
May cliques na rin pala dito.
oo nga - sadly na diskobre ko din yan. kala mo newsgroup pero actually
parang forum o kaya irc channel na may exclusive group. kunyari
pinaguusapan news pero pag meron silang hindi nagustuhan, gagawin nilang
personal.

feeling ko parang grade 6 ulit ako na pumasok sa bagong eskwela - may mga
mabubuti pero tahimik lang sila, at may mga bully - pag napansin nila na
medyo may laman ang utak mo at baka may sasabihin ka na iba sa pagiisip
nila, pag dating sa recess tatakutin ka, iintimidate, pagtutulungan,
mumurahin, iinsultuhin, gagamitan ng lahat ng klaseng peer-pressure para mag
conform ka sa kanila. at di ka titigilan hanggang tumahimik ka o kaya
umalis nalang. para sa akin, at akin lang ito - hindi ako magpapa-bully.
pong
2005-10-28 00:27:39 UTC
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Short reply: Very napoleonic speech. How tall are you pong?
tsong, di nalang ako sasagot diyan sa mga comment mo at obyusli gusto mo
lang gawing personal ito. kanina ka pa pilit ng pilit na gawin tungkol sa
akin ito eh, sori ka nalang -di ako kakagat diyan. unang una hindi ko naman
pinost ito para sa iyo kundi para kay piggy-back-ride (paki tignan mo yung
original post). ni re-post lang ng mababaw mong kaibigan si KSP, nilagay
yung pangalan ko, dinagdagan ng "ang aking masterpiece. basahin nyo uli ng
mabuti.", at tinanggal ang attachment sa baba, in a juvenile attempt to
focus attention on me nga and, typically, you fell for it. kung gusto mo
i-defend yang tuta natin at magpapauto ka sa isang uto-uto, ok lang sige
tumahol ka na din kung gusto mo.
Post by Cheeze
you are all making fools of yourselves, especially to the foreigners
who read and subscribe to this group.
you call each other names -- but you are all pigs. binababoy nyo ang
pagka-Pilipino nyo!
if you have nothing nice to say in this forum, DONT SAY ANYTHING!
that goes for you --
Dirty Sick Pig -- why do you continue to dig your own grave? when will
you stop convincing everyone that you're smart?
Rose Melinis -- are you really a Filipina? and to think you use your
real name??
pong -- you go all high and mighty by saying that name-calling is for
the losers, but you do it yourself.
YOU ARE ALL LOSERS and you don't deserve to be called Filipinos.
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ser/mam wag nyo nalang pansinin yung 2 dayuhan na yan - ipaubaya nyo nalang
sa akin. at ako din wag nyo nalang pansinin. katulad ng sinabi ni JT -
ignore nyo lang yung basura, o i-kill file nyo.

katunayan po nauunawaan ko ang inyong sinasabi. dahil lumaki ako sa pamilya
na 7 kaming makakapatid, kadalasan maingay ang pamamahay namin kahit pag may
bisita. parang narining ko uli yung nanay ko na sinasabi "shhh kakahiya sa
mga bisita". oo nga naman nakakahiya sa mga dayuhan. pero naman kung yung
bisita ay inabuso ang iyong mga kapatid at ininsulto ang iyong mga magulang,
ano naman kaya ang gagawin mo? siguro panahon na para ilabas ang lumang
itak at sunugin ang cedula, di po ba? pagpasensyahan nyo po ang pagsulat ko
nito kung hindi ko magawang purong tagalog at kung minsan mas madali sa akin
ang taglish, kaya lang baka may madamay na bisita nga naman.

hindi siguro ninyo alam na yang 2 yan AY banyaga na nambu-bully at nag
te-terrorize ng mga tao na gusto magsalita dito. yung isa dinadaan sa gilas
niya mag inggles, at mahusay nga naman siya manginsulto sa inggles ngunit
wari ko di marunong ng tagalog o kahit anong salitang pinoy. at dahil sa
kitid ng kanyang utak, pagkawalang sopistikasyon at pagka-ignorante at
bigoted, palagay ko di din yan nakapag kolehiyo. sa yung tuta naman niya,
medyo marunong ng tagalog, pero tingin ko di nakatapos ng mataas na paaralan
yan kasi napaka krudo ng isipan at napakabaho ng bunganga.

meron naman nagsasabi na siguro "weak" ang ego ko (paki tignan sa baba) daw
kasi di ko matanggap ang konting criticism. tanong ko naman "anong
criticism"? mabuti sana kung constructive ang sinasabi eh puro paninira,
pangaasar, pangiinsulto, pagmumura at pagpapataas ng sariling bangko ang
naririnig ko sa 2 dayuhan na yan. at isa pa, sabi ko nga "salamat sa iyong
amateur psychology" pero kung naaalala ko pa yung psych101 ko, ibatay nalang
natin sa tinatawag na "flight or fight impulse". pag ang ego daw ng isang
tao ay nasa panganib, kailangan niya mag desisyon kung siya'y tatakbo o
lalaban. pagkaintindi ko ay kadalasan kung mahina ang ego ng tao, siya'y
tatakbo, o tatahimik nalang. sa kabilang dako kung ang ego naman ng tao ay
napakalaki (inflated) wala siyang choice kundi lumaban kasi sa kalooblooban
niya alam niya na fragile ang ego niya at nagiging sobrang depensib siya.
Yung taong may kapangyarihan mamili, usisain ang situasyon, at mag desisyon
kung siya'y tatakbo o lalaban ay yung nasa gitna - yung katamtaman lang ang
ego, kung baga. Para sa akin, pinipili kong lumaban kaysa tumakbo.

sa kalagitnaan ng bundok cordilyera meron isang makitid na daanan na mula pa
ng panahon ng mga ninuno natin ay naging main connection ng ilocos at
cagayan valley. ang lupa sa makasaysayang lugar na ito ay diniligan ng dugo
ng mga 60 ilocanos and a few tagalogs, among them a young general from
bulacan named gregorio del pilar. they spilled their blood in that hallowed
strip of ground called Tirad Pass against a superior american force (of 500)
to buy time for aguinaldo to escape.
(http://www.kernersville.us/project/wikipedia/index.php/Battle_of_Tirad_Pass
) maaaring sabihin natin na sadyang sinayang lang nila ang buhay nila kasi
sa kaduluduluhan natalo din tayo ng mga americano. siguro nga - pero
sasabihin ba natin na sinayang nila rizal, bonifacio at mabini ang mga buhay
nila kasi hanggang ngayon ang isipan natin at maka-pyudal pa rin? oo
katunayang sayang ang buhay nila kung hindi natin sila tatandaan at
igagalang ang kahulugan ng kanilang paglaban at sakripisyo, at kung
papayagan lang natin na abusuhin tayo, duraan, at tapaktapakan ng mga
nagaakalang mas magaling sila sa atin kasi banyaga sila.

oo tutoo at di mapagkaila na tayo'y may mga problema bilang sangkatauhan.
sa loob ba naman ng mahigit na 300 taon na pagaabuso sa atin, at sa
pagkawala ng ating pinakamabubuti at pinakamatatapang na kababayan sa
paglaban noong 1898 at ulit nong 1900 pag dating ng mga amerikano, natuto
tayo makibagay, magpakumbaba, mag "yes ser, yes mam" upang mag survive.
kung isipin po ninyo, bukod pa sa mga bayaning nagbuwis ng kanilang buhay
laban sa espanya, napilitang maglagay ng mahigit 50 mil na sundalo ang mga
amerikano upang isupil ang ating mga matatapang na kababayan. minsan
nakakakilabot isipin - inisip ko lang minsan "kelan kaya ang huling panahon
na nagkaroon ng pride ang mga pinoy? maliban sa EDSA, at di siguro mabuting
example yan kasi sa manila lang naman nangyari yan, sa palagay ko the last
time was when we kicked spain out. minsan sinusubukan ko ilagay yung sarili
ko sa panahon na yon. imagine, tinalo natin ang isang world power! (kahit
ano pang sabihin nila na excuse kung paano tayo nanalo) and if you read f.
sionil jose's ("Dusk") characterization of what our people were like at the
time and how we were treated by our colonial masters - we had just won our
freedom from slavery in our own land. what a feeling it must have been,
mixed with the loss of our best and bravest men and women, but what a
feeling of pride our people must have had for that brief moment. Kaya nga
siguro hindi na sila nag isip pa ng 2 beses na labanan nila ang mga
americano pag dating nila. (katunayan din na kung nanalo ang democratic
party noong eleksyon ng 1900 sa amerika, ang plataporma nila ay para sa
hindi sakupin ang pilipinas. sabi nila na "how can a country that won it's
freedom from tyranny in all concience occupy another country that has just
won it's freedom?" kaya lang dahil sa isang mining disaster sa east coast
nanalo ang mga republicans) ano? - kaka panalo lang namin, kakalaya pa lang
namin sasakupin ulit ninyo kami? di na oy. 50 mil na sundalong americano
ang kinailangan, at sa kaduluduluhan, maliban sa mga namundok at tuluyang
nag gerilya, mahigit 200,000 (mga 16,000 ang sundalo daw, yung iba sibilyan)
sa atin pinakamatapang na lalaki at babae ang namatay sa gyerang yon. kung
isipin nyo na ang populasyon ng pilipinas noong 1900 ay mga 8 million
lang(http://www.gfmer.ch/Books/bookmp/205.htm), di natin masukat o
ma-imagine man ang impact ng pagkawala ng mga yan sa ating gene pool. sila
ang marunong lumaban, sila ang hindi magpapasupil, at ang naiwan ay ang mga
katulad natin, na marunong yumuko, makibagay, lunukin ang pride - pero oo
nga naman, nag survive tayo. yon ang survival skills natin bilang pinoy -
marunong ngumiti, tumawa, pag ninanakawan na tayo ng presidente natin anong
ginagawa natin? magiisip ng erap jokes.

("Filipino soldiers were not the only ones to bear the brunt of American
brutality. Approximately 200,000 Filipino civilians were also killed in the
conflict; estimates range as high as several million. Many died from
starvation and disease caused by the war, but in many cases American
soldiers were more directly responsible. Rape, looting, and murder often
followed the capture of towns."
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Crete/9782/atrocities.htm )

Interesting na sa mga araw na ito, may 2 pangyayar na parang nagkasabay -
una ang pagkamatay ni Rosa Parks sa Detroit, na mga 90+ yrs old na siya, "of
natural causes" sabi nga nila; at pangalawa ang pagaabot na ng 2,000 ang mga
namatay na sundalong amerikano sa iraq. ang pinakitang tapang ni rosa parks
na hindi tumayo sa bus at ibigay ang kanyang upuan sa isang puti, at ang
pagkaaresto sa kanya at pagkabilanggo, ang naging pasimula ng civil rights
movement, at naginspire kay martin luther king - isang mahinang babae na may
tapang at lakas ng loob. sa iraq 2,000 na ang namamatay dahil sa obsession
ng presidente na mag revenge para sa 9-11. minsan naiisip ko ang mga
pangyayari ng 9-11 dahil nagbago lahat ng buhay natin dahil doon. naalala
nyo pa ba noong unang panahon eh pwede ka dumating sa airport kahit 30mins
bago lumipad? ngayon kailangan siguraduhin mong walang butas ang medyas mo
dahil pihado pahuhubaran ka ng sapatos. yung mga wise nga nagtsi-tsinelas
nalang para walang gulo.

naiisip ko lang kasi kung tuusin mo, sa 4 na eroplano na na-hijack ng mga
terrorista, 3 ang umabot sa target nila, 2 sa world trade at 1 sa pentagon.
yung pang 4 nag crash sa isang field sa pennsylvania. ano ang pinagkaiba
nitong isa? simple lang. doon sa 3 walang ginawa ang mga pasahero dahil sa
takot at intimidation. yung isa, lumaban ang mga pasahero, at oo nga
nahulog din ang eroplano pero hindi nagwagi ang mga terrorista. mula noong
9-11 pinasya ko na kung ako'y magiging pasahero at ma hijack ang eroplano
ko, unang pagkakataon ko pag di sila nakatingin, hahampasin ko ng kahit
anong makuha ko, kahit sapatos ko lang, luluksuhin ko at lalabanan ko kahi
kagatin ko lang ng pustiso ko hehe. in other words, i would try to do
something, and get the other passengers to join in. bahala na diba kasi
patay na din naman kayong lahat at that point. in other words, as they say,
"the only thing for tyranny to triumph is for good people to do nothing",
and to paraphrase, the only thing for bullies to win is for people not to
stand to them. after all bullying is just another, more juvenile, form of
terrorism, diba?

Growing up I did not have many exposures to bullying - i went to a small
convent school, where the whole GRADE, not just class, was about 20
students. we were so few, we mostly picked on the girls until after a while
we started to find them sexy. In high school i observed many incidents of
bullying, but luckily was seldom the target. maybe it was because i was
never the smallest in class, or maybe it was because a few people knew that
i started carrying a switch blade in second year, or maybe it was because
most people knew that one of my good friends carried a gun, or maybe i was
just lucky. but i was mugged once and robbed another time, beaten up by 4
men once... so i know a little bit about what it is to be a victim. i also
saw on a couple of rare occations, where the bully, when he had to fight one
on one without his gang to back him up, would be throwing all sorts of
karate kicks and stuff but would end up the one crying because the other guy
would simply not back down. bullies are like that. matatapang yan pag may
mga kasama pero pag na isolate na sila, wala na, iiyak iyak na yan. o kaya
sasaksakin ka sa likod, kaya ingat ka din. ganunpaman, para sa akin ang
tanging paraan para mag deal sa mga bullies ay lumaban, kahit masaktan ka or
bugbugin ka. kasi kung di ka lalaban baka isang araw kunin mo nalang ang
baril mo at barilin mo lahat ng tao sa paligid, tulad ng nangyari sa
columbine.

kaya ser/mam, ipagpaliban nyo nalang po sa akin yang dalawang dayuhan na
yan. ignore nyo nalang po kami. paglalaruan ko lang sila. wala naman sa
akin yan basta may 5 o 10 sandali ako tuwing makalawa sagutin ang mga
mabababaw nilang insulto at mga tahol. habang nakatutok sa akin ang atensyon
nila, at least okupado siguro ang mga 2-3 oras nila sa kawalang buhay nila
sa paguusisa at paghahanap ng diksyonaryo at thesaurus upang uanawain ang
mga sinasabi ko. habang okupado sila at gulong-gulo sa pagbabawi sa mga
kataga ko eh di nababawasan naman ang pineperwisyo nilang ibang tao. sa
cost-benefit, patas na siguro kami. at saka wag ka mag alala kasi di ko
naman gagawin yan full time - minsan-minsan lang kasi medyo entertaining
kung minsan - para kang nakikipag chess sa isang bata o nakikipagtalo sa
unggoy- makakatuwa pero nakakasawa din pag paulit-ulit lang. anyway katulad
ng sinabi ko gusto ko lang ilantad ang kabuktutan nila at ang kanilang petty
tyrrany and pagka bankrupt ng kanilang isipan at moralidad. pero syempre di
ko magagawa yan habang buhay at minsan kailangan din po ako magbakasyon. :)

ser/mam pagpasensyan po ninyo at bigyan ng paumanhin ang maaaring nangyaring
pagistorbo namin sa katahimikan ninyo. ibalato mo na sa akin yang 2 yan at
ako ang bahala sa kanila.

salamat po.

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Post by Cheeze
Pong, I'll have you know that spam is never appreciated here, and nor
are your comments against those who flame spammers. You are obviously
one of those people with a weak ego easily affected by criticism.
I advise that you remember to be more considerate of people here.
Pong, sinong nagsabi sa yo na ayaw ka namin dito. Meron ka mga pinost
noon na interesante. Pero pare, kung ngayon eh pahihirapan mo pa kami
na buksan ang email namin ang messages dito at ang nababasa lang namin
eh "opo senor", parang bitin.
Kaya dito sa usenet, kung mang-aasar ka naman, dapat medyo creative,
para masaya tayong lahat.
----
"Kahit pagong ka pala, hindi ka slow."
- o diba witty!
Opo senor.
Alam mo tsong, nakabanat ka na - kaya makontento ka na diyan. Kung ayaw
mo
Post by Cheeze
ng bitin eh di wag mong basahin, o i-kill file mo kaya, buti pa.
Gumamit ka na ng personal na atake - di ako kumagat - kung gusto mong
pagtanggol ko ang ego ko para lalo mo lang ako insultuhin, sori nalang
kasi
Post by Cheeze
di ako papayag na gawin mong tungkol sa akin itong paksang ito. Kontento
ako
Post by Cheeze
sa kalagayan ng ego ko. The person who will vehemently defend his manhood
is often someone who is insecure about it... I'm not going to be trapped
into defending my ego just because someone takes a cheap shot at it. The
less I say the more apparent it will be that you are one who prefers to
judge people on form rather than content, and that burden is yours. Kung
di
Post by Cheeze
ako sumagot eh di yung insulto mo ay tatalbog lang sa iyo dahil sa
kababawan
Post by Cheeze
ng sinabi mo.
Nasabi ko na ang gusto kong sabihin, which is, in plain terms, asar ako sa
2
Post by Cheeze
petty tyrants na yan. I won't digress from that message just because you
took a cheap shot at me.
Kahit padaplis o mintis ang suntok mo, nakasuntok ka na. Makontento ka na
diyan By Stallone's Law I would have every right to kill all your
deputies,
Post by Cheeze
blow up your town and burn your Sherriff's station to the ground, but I
prefer to let you wallow. You drew first blood.
Pong that was no cheap shot. A cheap shot is meant only to insult you.
I believe that you do have a weak ego. You say you don't, of course.
Granted. But that doesn't stop me from observing what I see. My
purpose is not to make you defend yourself, but to let you know that I
think you have an inability to take criticism. Handle that information
the way you wish.

And I meant what I say when I said you are welcome here. Now with my
last post, I was hoping that you cheer up a little. Don't take flames
too seriously. They're too common here in usenet (just lurk in other
newsgroups too, you'll see what I mean) to actually be of any value
(positive or negative) at all. At most, its just poking fun at each
other and ourselves.

But seriously, don't flame the spamguardians. Spammers are open game.
Spam is very irritating when it fills up your mailbox. My big mistake
here is posting without a spamguard on my email address. So please.
Stop defending your ego (cause contrary to what you claim, you have
done nothing but) and start taking other people into consideration.
DSP's flame tactics and JT's pakikiusap has seemed to have no effect on
you. I'm hoping an amateur psychoanalysis might. If not then you will
simply remain problematic to me. Deal with that information, however
way you wish. SCF is an unmoderated group.

--------
opo senor
thanks for showing your astute amateur psychonalaytic skills. I'm sure we
are all the better for it.

regardless of what your learned opinion is about my ego or others, i have
said what i need to say and i refuse to make this about me. this is about
what i consider a tyranny of ideas where only a few are allowed to speak,
regardless of how shallow their comments are, and most are forced to silence
by bullying and terrorism.

"Katunayang malinaw na wala naman silang pagmamalasakit sa mga Pinoy, kahit
anong gawin nilang magpanggap na Pinoy sila. At para sa akin tungkulin ko
ang ibunyag at ilantad ang kababawan nila tuwing may pagkakataon ako."

my role, as i said, is to expose this petty tyranny and bankruptcy of
thought whenever i have the chance, and if it happens to be in this
newsgroup, so be it. frankly it is becoming rather tiresome, after all i do
have a life in the real world - and can seem pretty futile considering that
these petty tyrants have been bullying and terrorizing people here for the
last 10 years. But then again, Marcos was dictator for more than 20 before
we kicked him out.
Cheeze
2005-10-28 02:28:04 UTC
Permalink
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Short reply: Very napoleonic speech. How tall are you pong?
tsong, di nalang ako sasagot diyan sa mga comment mo at obyusli gusto mo
lang gawing personal ito. kanina ka pa pilit ng pilit na gawin tungkol sa
akin ito eh, sori ka nalang -di ako kakagat diyan.
Tsong! Ang pinopost ko ay tungkol nga sa iyo. Kung ayaw mong sagutin,
baka kasi ayaw mong tignan ang sarili mo sa salamin. You are the pot
calling the kettle black. Do you deny it?
Post by pong
unang una hindi ko naman
pinost ito para sa iyo kundi para kay piggy-back-ride (paki tignan mo yung
original post). ni re-post lang ng mababaw mong kaibigan si KSP, nilagay
yung pangalan ko, dinagdagan ng "ang aking masterpiece. basahin nyo uli ng
mabuti.",
Eh bakit mo pinost sa usenet? Kung personal yan kay piggy-back email
mo sa kanya!
Post by pong
at tinanggal ang attachment sa baba, in a juvenile attempt to
focus attention on me nga and, typically, you fell for it. kung gusto mo
i-defend yang tuta natin at magpapauto ka sa isang uto-uto, ok lang sige
tumahol ka na din kung gusto mo.
Ikaw lang ang tumatahol dito. Salita ka ng salita na wala ka namang
sinasabi. Pag binasa mong mabuti ang mga archives, maraming debate
talaga dito. Naiiba ka lang dahil walang dina-dagdag na impormasyon na
may halaga sa ibang tao. Lahat ng post mo rito ay tungkol sa iyo! Na
hindi ka sumuko non kay marcos! Na nung highschool ka eh ganto ka!
Etc. Pagkatapos kung hinaharap naman sa iyo ang mga baho ng ugali mo
ayaw mong sagutin?

Galing mo tsong!
<snipped>

No need to repost everything. Just enough is needed para ma trace sa
thread ang pinaguusapan.
pong
2005-11-01 00:50:25 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Post by Cheeze
Short reply: Very napoleonic speech. How tall are you pong?
tsong, di nalang ako sasagot diyan sa mga comment mo at obyusli gusto mo
lang gawing personal ito. kanina ka pa pilit ng pilit na gawin tungkol sa
akin ito eh, sori ka nalang -di ako kakagat diyan.
Tsong! Ang pinopost ko ay tungkol nga sa iyo. Kung ayaw mong sagutin,
baka kasi ayaw mong tignan ang sarili mo sa salamin. You are the pot
calling the kettle black. Do you deny it?
wow ang kulit - ang pinost mo senor ay isang direct insult sa akin na gusto
mong gawin kong personal ang usapan - ibig sabihin you called me a name and
asked how tall i was and you want me to become all defensive so you can
manipulate the discussion. eh sinabi ko na sa iyo ilang beses, hindi ako
kakagat diyan. tama na sagutin ko muna yung idol mo si mr tuta. pero kung
pilitin mo ako piliting i-corner. sige senor, to your best.
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
unang una hindi ko naman
pinost ito para sa iyo kundi para kay piggy-back-ride (paki tignan mo yung
original post). ni re-post lang ng mababaw mong kaibigan si KSP, nilagay
yung pangalan ko, dinagdagan ng "ang aking masterpiece. basahin nyo uli ng
mabuti.",
Eh bakit mo pinost sa usenet? Kung personal yan kay piggy-back email
mo sa kanya!
pinost ko para sa kanya at para sa lahat ng iba na binu-bully ninyo para
makita nila na di sila dapat matakot sa inyo.
Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
at tinanggal ang attachment sa baba, in a juvenile attempt to
focus attention on me nga and, typically, you fell for it. kung gusto mo
i-defend yang tuta natin at magpapauto ka sa isang uto-uto, ok lang sige
tumahol ka na din kung gusto mo.
Ikaw lang ang tumatahol dito. Salita ka ng salita na wala ka namang
sinasabi. Pag binasa mong mabuti ang mga archives, maraming debate
talaga dito. Naiiba ka lang dahil walang dina-dagdag na impormasyon na
may halaga sa ibang tao. Lahat ng post mo rito ay tungkol sa iyo! Na
hindi ka sumuko non kay marcos! Na nung highschool ka eh ganto ka!
Etc. Pagkatapos kung hinaharap naman sa iyo ang mga baho ng ugali mo
ayaw mong sagutin?
ha? eh kung ayaw mong madinig tungkol sa buhay ko at sa mga values ko eh di
wag mong basahin senor - o ikill-file mo nga ako katulad ng sinabi ko sa
umpisa pa lang. bunabasa mo, tapos iinsultuhin mo ako, tapos aangal ka
naman pala kung bakit ko sinulat hehehe
Post by Cheeze
Galing mo tsong!
syempre - hindi naman sa nagmamagaling - lahat naman ng post ninyo ni tuta
(na sagot sa mga post ko) ay paninira tungkol sa akin - syempre ang mga
sagot ko ay para ipaliwanag kung bakit hindi ako aatras sa pambu-bully
ninyo. ina-attack ninyo ako- eh syempre ginawa na ninyo tungkol sa akin
ito - ngayon umaangal ka kung bakit naging tungkol sa akin ito? hehehe
galing mo senor!
Post by Cheeze
<snipped>
No need to repost everything. Just enough is needed para ma trace sa
thread ang pinaguusapan.
hindi enough yon senor - tinanggal niya (at tinanggal mo din) yung mga
pinaka relevant parts - yung nga ina-attack ninyo ako, at ako naman ay
sumasagot sa mga personal attack ninyo. madaling sumagot at palabasin kayo
pa ang mga binibiktima dito pag kinuha mo out of context yung discussion,
tulad ng ginagawa ninyo pag inaalis ninyo yung mga parte na kitang kita ang
kabuktutan ninyo.

for your enlightenment, eto pa ang copya ng sagot ko sa iyo sa ibaba - at
baka makatulong sa iyo makaintindi kung bakit ako hindi aatras sa mga
attempt ninyo na i-terrorize ako. Insultuhin ninyo ako, murahin ang nanay
ko, mag post kayo ng mga peke na post at ilagay ang pangalan ko, sige lang -
wala sa akin yan. kayo naman ang napapagod at nagmumukhang tanga.
----------------

sa tingin ko hindi sila pinoy - wala silang pagmamalasakit sa pinoy at
walang pagmamahal sa inang bayan. at hindi mas mababa. maaaring napaka
genius nila, successful, magaling magsalita at manlait, mahusay magmura,
pero sa tingin ko failure sila as human beings. sa tingin ko mga bully lang
sila at mga petty tyrants.

chaka nga pala, bat ba tanong ka ng tanong at comment ka ng comment? sinabi
ko na hindi ako kakagat diyan sa mga atake mong personal. alin ba doon ang
hindi mo naintindihan? sa ingles "aye weel nut byte". gets? kung gusto mo
mag comment sa mga opinion ko, ok lang sige mag comment ka. kung gusto mong
mag practice ng iyong amateur pseudo-psychological skills eh maghanap ka
nalang ng ibang guinea pig. kung psych titser ka man, ayoko maging
estudyante mo.

obyusli ikaw ang tipong tao na mahilig mag kategorya at ilagay sa maliliit
na kahon ang mga nakikilala niya. judgemental ika nga. kung ako man ay
magaaral ng psychology eh di doon nalang ako sa eskwela magaaral - hindi sa
usenet. hanap ka nalang ng ibang subject senor - yung 2 petty tyrant kaya
pag aralan mo - classic yan mga yan - pwedeng may pinoy background sila pero
halatang ikinahihiya nila kaya sobrang depensib sila (lalo na si tuta pag na
question ang i.q. niya lol) at ang lakas mag put down ng kapwa pinoy.
mabuti pa si miss tatoo at hindi namimili, at least lahat ng tao hate niya -
intsik, pinoy, muslim, itim, dilaw, pula, kahit puti. o kaya pagaralan mo
sarili mo - usisain mo kung bakit ka parang obsessed sa akin - habol ka ng
habol, kahit yung post ay hindi para sa iyo, pinagaaralan mo, hinihimay mo,
comment ka ng comment ng ad hominem. senor, sori nalang hindi mo ako kilala
at hindi mo ako makikilala batay lang sa mga posting ko dito. wala kang
nalalaman sa pinanggalingan ko, sa pamilya't mga magulang, sa pinagdaanan
kong hirap and saya, sa mga trauma at kaluwalhatian na nadanasan ko - kahit
sinong propesyonal ng psychologist hindi hahatulan ang cliente niya batay
lang sa mga iilang sinulat niya sa usenet - they would take many sessions of
in-depth study and tests before making a diagnosis. ikaw parang may
listahan ka na ng mga psychoses at pag may nabasa ka, pipili ka nalang
doon - "ah weak ego siguro", "ah napoleonic complex" - eh ano ba talaga,
weak ego o napoleonic? o baka napoleonic pero weak ego at the same time
hehehe.

senor, suggestion ko sa iyo, wag mo na ako pag abalahan ng panahon at hindi
ako mabuting subject para diyan sa research paper mo. at kung obsessed ka
man sa akin, eh sa iba mo nalang ibigay ang iyong atensyon. kung single
woman ka sana with nice legs and of child bearing age, eh baka mainteres pa
ako - kaso judgemental ka nga at *palagay ko* (ie in my opinion)
fault-finder kaya wag nalang kaya.

napapangisi ako kasi naalala ko yung sinabi ni jean-claude van damme sa
"Hard Target" na parang nararapat sabihin dito - (in his Dutch accent) "Why
don you take your beeg steek and your boypren and find a bus to catch?"

---------------
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Post by Cheeze
Post by pong
Pong, I'll have you know that spam is never appreciated here, and nor
are your comments against those who flame spammers. You are obviously
one of those people with a weak ego easily affected by criticism.
I advise that you remember to be more considerate of people here.
Pong, sinong nagsabi sa yo na ayaw ka namin dito. Meron ka mga pinost
noon na interesante. Pero pare, kung ngayon eh pahihirapan mo pa kami
na buksan ang email namin ang messages dito at ang nababasa lang namin
eh "opo senor", parang bitin.
Kaya dito sa usenet, kung mang-aasar ka naman, dapat medyo creative,
para masaya tayong lahat.
----
"Kahit pagong ka pala, hindi ka slow."
- o diba witty!
Opo senor.
Alam mo tsong, nakabanat ka na - kaya makontento ka na diyan. Kung ayaw
mo
Post by Cheeze
ng bitin eh di wag mong basahin, o i-kill file mo kaya, buti pa.
Gumamit ka na ng personal na atake - di ako kumagat - kung gusto mong
pagtanggol ko ang ego ko para lalo mo lang ako insultuhin, sori nalang
kasi
Post by Cheeze
di ako papayag na gawin mong tungkol sa akin itong paksang ito. Kontento
ako
Post by Cheeze
sa kalagayan ng ego ko. The person who will vehemently defend his manhood
is often someone who is insecure about it... I'm not going to be trapped
into defending my ego just because someone takes a cheap shot at it. The
less I say the more apparent it will be that you are one who prefers to
judge people on form rather than content, and that burden is yours. Kung
di
Post by Cheeze
ako sumagot eh di yung insulto mo ay tatalbog lang sa iyo dahil sa
kababawan
Post by Cheeze
ng sinabi mo.
Nasabi ko na ang gusto kong sabihin, which is, in plain terms, asar ako sa
2
Post by Cheeze
petty tyrants na yan. I won't digress from that message just because you
took a cheap shot at me.
Kahit padaplis o mintis ang suntok mo, nakasuntok ka na. Makontento ka na
diyan By Stallone's Law I would have every right to kill all your
deputies,
Post by Cheeze
blow up your town and burn your Sherriff's station to the ground, but I
prefer to let you wallow. You drew first blood.
Pong that was no cheap shot. A cheap shot is meant only to insult you.
I believe that you do have a weak ego. You say you don't, of course.
Granted. But that doesn't stop me from observing what I see. My
purpose is not to make you defend yourself, but to let you know that I
think you have an inability to take criticism. Handle that information
the way you wish.

And I meant what I say when I said you are welcome here. Now with my
last post, I was hoping that you cheer up a little. Don't take flames
too seriously. They're too common here in usenet (just lurk in other
newsgroups too, you'll see what I mean) to actually be of any value
(positive or negative) at all. At most, its just poking fun at each
other and ourselves.

But seriously, don't flame the spamguardians. Spammers are open game.
Spam is very irritating when it fills up your mailbox. My big mistake
here is posting without a spamguard on my email address. So please.
Stop defending your ego (cause contrary to what you claim, you have
done nothing but) and start taking other people into consideration.
DSP's flame tactics and JT's pakikiusap has seemed to have no effect on
you. I'm hoping an amateur psychoanalysis might. If not then you will
simply remain problematic to me. Deal with that information, however
way you wish. SCF is an unmoderated group.

--------
opo senor
thanks for showing your astute amateur psychonalaytic skills. I'm sure we
are all the better for it.

regardless of what your learned opinion is about my ego or others, i have
said what i need to say and i refuse to make this about me. this is about
what i consider a tyranny of ideas where only a few are allowed to speak,
regardless of how shallow their comments are, and most are forced to silence
by bullying and terrorism.

"Katunayang malinaw na wala naman silang pagmamalasakit sa mga Pinoy, kahit
anong gawin nilang magpanggap na Pinoy sila. At para sa akin tungkulin ko
ang ibunyag at ilantad ang kababawan nila tuwing may pagkakataon ako."

my role, as i said, is to expose this petty tyranny and bankruptcy of
thought whenever i have the chance, and if it happens to be in this
newsgroup, so be it. frankly it is becoming rather tiresome, after all i do
have a life in the real world - and can seem pretty futile considering that
these petty tyrants have been bullying and terrorizing people here for the
last 10 years. But then again, Marcos was dictator for more than 20 before
we kicked him out.
pong
2005-10-27 17:28:32 UTC
Permalink
hehe sabi na nga ba i will make you jump through hoops mr tuta - utouto
talaga. now for my next trick i will make you beg tapos mamaya tuturuan
kita mag play dead. now sit! good little tuta.
pong
2005-10-27 17:34:05 UTC
Permalink
uuuyy binasa mo talaga lahat ng sinulat ko ha? hehe aminin mo na may crush
ka sa akin mr tuta - pero sori diyan ka nalang sa amo mo at di ko type mga
aso na malaking ulo wala namang laman.
naintindihan mo naman lahat ng sinabi ko diyan? wow amazing - meron na bang
"tagalog-english dictionary for dummies"? lol!
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