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The Truth Told by SS Agent Clint Hill
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claviger
2018-05-17 03:07:15 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill

mainframetech
2018-05-18 00:13:28 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
Testimony of Clint Hill:

"Mr. SPECTER. What did you observe as to President Kennedy's condition on
arrival at the hospital?

Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in
the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits
of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was
completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell
if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping
wound in the right rear portion of the head."

Chris
Anthony Marsh
2018-05-19 01:25:55 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
"Mr. SPECTER. What did you observe as to President Kennedy's condition on
arrival at the hospital?
Mr. HILL. The right rear portion of his head was missing. It was lying in
the rear seat of the car. His brain was exposed. There was blood and bits
Except for the large flap of skull sticking out on the right rear above
the ear which Jackie closed up.
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of brain all over the entire rear portion of the car. Mrs. Kennedy was
completely covered with blood. There was so much blood you could not tell
if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping
wound in the right rear portion of the head."
Chris
A PSY DOC
2018-05-28 20:26:44 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
Thanks, I have heard SSA Hill describe in a similar fashion the time
stamping of his actions in relation to the shots he could hear.

I am quite sure that others have previously also heard that Hill,
nowadays, says he could hear his first shot.

That President Kennedy then suddenly, rapidly raised his arms high around
his throat/head (indeed, JFK's documented actions @ Z-224 to 230).

Then, (paraphrasing Hill) "OTHERS HAVE TOLD ME LATER that a shot was
fired WHILE I WAS STILL RUNNING TO THE LIMO."

Then, as he almost had reached the limo Hill could hear his last shot.

As seen in the films, Hill does not even start to jump off his followup
car until the equivalent of Z-295 to 305, right?

Therefore according to Hill's very own "I was there" words, there were 2
shots fired **AFTER** he was already running in the street, **AFTER**
Z-295 to 305.

This is also, of course, perfectly right in line with the "W.C." also
admitting for us, "a substantial majority of the witnesses stated that the
shots were not evenly spaced. Most witnesses recalled that the second and
third shots were bunched together" ("W.C." 'report,' pg 115)
bigdog
2018-05-29 00:34:10 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
Thanks, I have heard SSA Hill describe in a similar fashion the time
stamping of his actions in relation to the shots he could hear.
I am quite sure that others have previously also heard that Hill,
nowadays, says he could hear his first shot.
That President Kennedy then suddenly, rapidly raised his arms high around
Then, (paraphrasing Hill) "OTHERS HAVE TOLD ME LATER that a shot was
fired WHILE I WAS STILL RUNNING TO THE LIMO."
Then, as he almost had reached the limo Hill could hear his last shot.
As seen in the films, Hill does not even start to jump off his followup
car until the equivalent of Z-295 to 305, right?
Therefore according to Hill's very own "I was there" words, there were 2
shots fired **AFTER** he was already running in the street, **AFTER**
Z-295 to 305.
Hill only remembers hearing ONE shot after he started running and that was
the head shot. He is basing his guess that there was another shot on what
others told him, not his own recollection. The fact is JFK was hit by the
second shot which means the first shot didn't register in Hill's memory as
a shot. Maybe he thought it was a backfire or maybe he was so intent on
watching the people along Elm that it didn't break into his concentration.
Whatever the reason what he remembers as the first shot was almost
certainly the second. We have the statements of both SSA Bennett and JBC
to go with the observed reactions of JBC and Rosemary Willis in the
Z-film.
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This is also, of course, perfectly right in line with the "W.C." also
admitting for us, "a substantial majority of the witnesses stated that the
shots were not evenly spaced. Most witnesses recalled that the second and
third shots were bunched together" ("W.C." 'report,' pg 115)
The WC made that observation about the witnesses but did not endorse it
nor did they dispute it. They allowed for the possibility that was the
case but they also pointed out that other witnesses thought the shots were
evenly spaced and still others thought the first two were closer
together.
A PSY DOC
2018-10-29 00:29:46 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
Thanks Mr./Mrs./Ms. clav. I have heard SSA
Hill describe in a similar fashion the time
stamping of his actions in relation to the
shots that he (and many, many other witnesses)
could hear.

I am quite sure that others have previously
also heard that Hill, nowadays, claims he
could hear his first shot.

That President Kennedy then suddenly,
rapidly raised his arms high around his
throat/head (indeed, JFK's documented
actions @ Z-224 to 230).

Then, (paraphrasing Hill) "OTHERS HAVE TOLD
ME LATER that a shot was fired WHILE I WAS
STILL RUNNING TO THE LIMO."

Then, as he almost had reached the limo Hill
could hear his last shot.

As seen in the films, Hill does not even
start to jump off his followup car until
the equivalent of Z-295 to 305, right?

Therefore according to Hill's very own, "I
was there" words, there were 2 shots fired
distinctly **AFTER** he was already running
in the street, **AFTER** Z-295 to 305.

This is also, of course, perfectly right in
synch and right in line with the "W. C." also
admitting for us that, "a substantial majority
of the witnesses stated that the shots were not
evenly spaced. Most witnesses recalled that
the second and third shots were bunched together"

("W. C." 'report,' page 115)
Anthony Marsh
2018-10-30 14:56:00 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
Thanks Mr./Mrs./Ms. clav. I have heard SSA
Hill describe in a similar fashion the time
stamping of his actions in relation to the
shots that he (and many, many other witnesses)
could hear.
I am quite sure that others have previously
also heard that Hill, nowadays, claims he
could hear his first shot.
That President Kennedy then suddenly,
rapidly raised his arms high around his
throat/head (indeed, JFK's documented
Then, (paraphrasing Hill) "OTHERS HAVE TOLD
ME LATER that a shot was fired WHILE I WAS
STILL RUNNING TO THE LIMO."
Then, as he almost had reached the limo Hill
could hear his last shot.
As seen in the films, Hill does not even
start to jump off his followup car until
the equivalent of Z-295 to 305, right?
Therefore according to Hill's very own, "I
was there" words, there were 2 shots fired
distinctly **AFTER** he was already running
in the street, **AFTER** Z-295 to 305.
This is also, of course, perfectly right in
synch and right in line with the "W. C." also
admitting for us that, "a substantial majority
of the witnesses stated that the shots were not
evenly spaced. Most witnesses recalled that
the second and third shots were bunched together"
("W. C." 'report,' page 115)
No, it is more inline with the 4 shot interpretation.
2 quick shots and he starts running. While he is running he hears two
more shots at the end.
claviger
2018-10-31 01:26:36 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
Thanks Mr./Mrs./Ms. clav. I have heard SSA
Hill describe in a similar fashion the time
stamping of his actions in relation to the
shots that he (and many, many other witnesses)
could hear.
I am quite sure that others have previously
also heard that Hill, nowadays, claims he
could hear his first shot.
That President Kennedy then suddenly,
rapidly raised his arms high around his
throat/head (indeed, JFK's documented
Then, (paraphrasing Hill) "OTHERS HAVE TOLD
ME LATER that a shot was fired WHILE I WAS
STILL RUNNING TO THE LIMO."
Then, as he almost had reached the limo Hill
could hear his last shot.
As seen in the films, Hill does not even
start to jump off his followup car until
the equivalent of Z-295 to 305, right?
Therefore according to Hill's very own, "I
was there" words, there were 2 shots fired
distinctly **AFTER** he was already running
in the street, **AFTER** Z-295 to 305.
This is also, of course, perfectly right in
synch and right in line with the "W. C." also
admitting for us that, "a substantial majority
of the witnesses stated that the shots were not
evenly spaced. Most witnesses recalled that
the second and third shots were bunched together"
("W. C." 'report,' page 115)
No, it is more inline with the 4 shot interpretation.
2 quick shots and he starts running. While he is
running he hears two more shots at the end.
A 4 shot interpretation would would be more indication
of the Mortal Error Theory.
Anthony Marsh
2018-11-01 21:58:30 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
Thanks Mr./Mrs./Ms. clav. I have heard SSA
Hill describe in a similar fashion the time
stamping of his actions in relation to the
shots that he (and many, many other witnesses)
could hear.
I am quite sure that others have previously
also heard that Hill, nowadays, claims he
could hear his first shot.
That President Kennedy then suddenly,
rapidly raised his arms high around his
throat/head (indeed, JFK's documented
Then, (paraphrasing Hill) "OTHERS HAVE TOLD
ME LATER that a shot was fired WHILE I WAS
STILL RUNNING TO THE LIMO."
Then, as he almost had reached the limo Hill
could hear his last shot.
As seen in the films, Hill does not even
start to jump off his followup car until
the equivalent of Z-295 to 305, right?
Therefore according to Hill's very own, "I
was there" words, there were 2 shots fired
distinctly **AFTER** he was already running
in the street, **AFTER** Z-295 to 305.
This is also, of course, perfectly right in
synch and right in line with the "W. C." also
admitting for us that, "a substantial majority
of the witnesses stated that the shots were not
evenly spaced. Most witnesses recalled that
the second and third shots were bunched together"
("W. C." 'report,' page 115)
No, it is more inline with the 4 shot interpretation.
2 quick shots and he starts running. While he is
running he hears two more shots at the end.
A 4 shot interpretation would would be more indication
of the Mortal Error Theory.
Silly. The 4 shot pattern comes from the acoustical evidence, not
Menninger. No one in the SS car heard a shot from inside the SS car.
End of silly theory.
claviger
2018-11-08 15:44:00 UTC
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No, it is more inline with the 4 shot interpretation.
2 quick shots and he starts running. While he is
running he hears two more shots at the end.
A 4 shot interpretation would would be more indication
of the Mortal Error Theory.
The reason being it explains the band-bang sound so many
witnesses mention. The other explanation is bang-echo off
the curved Pergola.
Anthony Marsh
2018-11-09 14:02:06 UTC
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No, it is more inline with the 4 shot interpretation.
2 quick shots and he starts running. While he is
running he hears two more shots at the end.
A 4 shot interpretation would would be more indication
of the Mortal Error Theory.
The reason being it explains the band-bang sound so many
witnesses mention. The other explanation is bang-echo off
the curved Pergola.
Please list all these million os witnessese you are talking about.
If the echo chamber effect were the cause people would have reporrt 6
shots. The 3 from the sniper's nest and 3 would be echoes from those 3
shots. Your math is a little bit off.
claviger
2018-11-12 23:59:50 UTC
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No, it is more inline with the 4 shot interpretation.
2 quick shots and he starts running. While he is
running he hears two more shots at the end.
A 4 shot interpretation would would be more indication
of the Mortal Error Theory.
The reason being it explains the bang-bang sound so many
witnesses mention. The other explanation is bang-echo off
the curved Pergola.
Please list all these million os witnessese you are talking about.
Several witnesses heard the last 2 shots close together.
Is this news to you?!!!
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If the echo chamber effect were the cause people would have
reporrt 6 shots.
Not necessarily. The Limousine was a moving target. The first two
shots happened in front of the TSBD. The last shot happened in
front of the Pergola.
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The 3 from the sniper's nest and 3 would be echoes from those 3
shots. Your math is a little bit off.
Read above.

1***@mail.com
2018-11-02 13:55:05 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
That criminal should die in prison. Lock him up!
claviger
2018-11-03 16:20:01 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
That criminal should die in prison. Lock him up!
LHO died on his way to prison.
1***@mail.com
2018-11-03 23:51:28 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
That criminal should die in prison. Lock him up!
LHO died on his way to prison.
Too bad Clint Hill didn't shot by Earl Rose. But, that was before Trump
armed all the doctors. He's done that already, hasn't he?
claviger
2018-11-04 23:12:58 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
That criminal should die in prison. Lock him up!
LHO died on his way to prison.
Too bad Clint Hill didn't shot by Earl Rose.
Does this mean Clint Hill should have shot past Earl Rose
or Dr Rose should have shot Clint Hill with a pistol?
I don't understand either statement.


But, that was before Trump
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armed all the doctors. He's done that already, hasn't he?
1***@mail.com
2018-11-05 17:29:00 UTC
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JFK Assassination: The Truth Told by Secret Service Agent Clint Hill
http://youtu.be/vzYwCmDDSLA
That criminal should die in prison. Lock him up!
LHO died on his way to prison.
Too bad Clint Hill didn't shot by Earl Rose.
Does this mean Clint Hill should have shot past Earl Rose
or Dr Rose should have shot Clint Hill with a pistol?
I don't understand either statement.
But, that was before Trump
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armed all the doctors. He's done that already, hasn't he?
Earl Rose should have mowed down all of the SS when they were stealing the
president's body. But, instead, like Pocahontas of the Senate, he just
wagged his finger for a show.
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