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David Kleinecke
2019-10-19 00:28:08 UTC
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Do people in England ever have truck with one another?
b***@shaw.ca
2019-10-19 03:58:24 UTC
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Post by David Kleinecke
Do people in England ever have truck with one another?
I've noticed some of them are starting to say "truck"
rather than "lorry". But I'm sure they never had lorry
with each other, unless that's something to do with dogging.

bill
Ross
2019-10-19 04:17:44 UTC
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Post by b***@shaw.ca
Post by David Kleinecke
Do people in England ever have truck with one another?
I've noticed some of them are starting to say "truck"
rather than "lorry". But I'm sure they never had lorry
with each other, unless that's something to do with dogging.
bill
Jes' keep on lorryin'...
Sam Plusnet
2019-10-19 18:55:12 UTC
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Post by b***@shaw.ca
Post by David Kleinecke
Do people in England ever have truck with one another?
I've noticed some of them are starting to say "truck"
rather than "lorry". But I'm sure they never had lorry
with each other, unless that's something to do with dogging.
Setting the conflation of two different words to one side, my
brother-in-law was a builder and he referred to his (small) lorry as a
"truck", so yes it is sometimes used here.
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Sam Plusnet
Mack A. Damia
2019-10-19 19:37:51 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by b***@shaw.ca
Post by David Kleinecke
Do people in England ever have truck with one another?
I've noticed some of them are starting to say "truck"
rather than "lorry". But I'm sure they never had lorry
with each other, unless that's something to do with dogging.
Setting the conflation of two different words to one side, my
brother-in-law was a builder and he referred to his (small) lorry as a
"truck", so yes it is sometimes used here.
Was that a red lorry or a yellow lorry?
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
2019-10-19 20:13:53 UTC
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Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by b***@shaw.ca
Post by David Kleinecke
Do people in England ever have truck with one another?
I've noticed some of them are starting to say "truck"
rather than "lorry". But I'm sure they never had lorry
with each other, unless that's something to do with dogging.
Setting the conflation of two different words to one side, my
brother-in-law was a builder and he referred to his (small) lorry as a
"truck", so yes it is sometimes used here.
In the UK there is a Trucking magazine:
https://truckingmag.co.uk/

and a Truck&Driver magazine:
https://www.truckanddriver.co.uk/
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Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
phil
2019-10-19 20:48:41 UTC
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Post by Peter Duncanson [BrE]
Post by Sam Plusnet
Post by b***@shaw.ca
Post by David Kleinecke
Do people in England ever have truck with one another?
I've noticed some of them are starting to say "truck"
rather than "lorry". But I'm sure they never had lorry
with each other, unless that's something to do with dogging.
Setting the conflation of two different words to one side, my
brother-in-law was a builder and he referred to his (small) lorry as a
"truck", so yes it is sometimes used here.
https://truckingmag.co.uk/
https://www.truckanddriver.co.uk/
Though I notice (and this may be primarily a northern UK usage) that
Brit truck/lorry drivers often seem to refer to their vehicles as 'the
wagon'.
John Dunlop
2019-10-20 07:08:41 UTC
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Post by phil
Though I notice (and this may be primarily a northern UK usage) that
Brit truck/lorry drivers often seem to refer to their vehicles as 'the
wagon'.
I wonder if any non-Brits use, or are aware of, "juggernaut" in the
sense of "heavy/articulated lorry".
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John
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2019-10-20 07:17:38 UTC
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Post by John Dunlop
Post by phil
Though I notice (and this may be primarily a northern UK usage) that
Brit truck/lorry drivers often seem to refer to their vehicles as 'the
wagon'.
I wonder if any non-Brits use, or are aware of, "juggernaut" in the
sense of "heavy/articulated lorry".
The word was introduced (or adopted from India), if memory serves, for
the huge lorries that, according to the people who have become
Brexiteers, the French and Germans wanted to impose on idyllic English
villages. Nonsense, of course, but what else do you expect from the
people who have become Brexiteers?
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athel
Katy Jennison
2019-10-20 09:06:23 UTC
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Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by John Dunlop
Post by phil
Though I notice (and this may be primarily a northern UK usage) that
Brit truck/lorry drivers often seem to refer to their vehicles as 'the
wagon'.
I wonder if any non-Brits use, or are aware of, "juggernaut" in the
sense of "heavy/articulated lorry".
The word was introduced (or adopted from India), if memory serves, for
the huge lorries that, according to the people who have become
Brexiteers, the French and Germans wanted to impose on idyllic English
villages. Nonsense, of course, but what else do you expect from the
people who have become Brexiteers?
What, you mean that the devilish sat-navs which send these things down
the sort of minor roads where they get stuck and have to be hauled
backwards by someone's tractor for half a mile aren't really programmed
by wicked Brussels bureaucrats?
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Katy Jennison
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2019-10-20 10:00:19 UTC
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Post by Katy Jennison
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by John Dunlop
Post by phil
Though I notice (and this may be primarily a northern UK usage) that
Brit truck/lorry drivers often seem to refer to their vehicles as 'the
wagon'.
I wonder if any non-Brits use, or are aware of, "juggernaut" in the
sense of "heavy/articulated lorry".
The word was introduced (or adopted from India), if memory serves, for
the huge lorries that, according to the people who have become
Brexiteers, the French and Germans wanted to impose on idyllic English
villages. Nonsense, of course, but what else do you expect from the
people who have become Brexiteers?
What, you mean that the devilish sat-navs which send these things down
the sort of minor roads where they get stuck and have to be hauled
backwards by someone's tractor for half a mile aren't really programmed
by wicked Brussels bureaucrats?
I lost a lot of my faith in my GPS when I used it in England for the
first time. I know perfectly well how to get to Bath on the A36,
following down the hill to the London Road and then turning right.
However, before I got to bottom of the hill the GPS told me to turn
right onto a smallish road. Thinking there might be roadworks (though
this was more than ten years ago, and I'm sure if it was sophisticated
enough to know about roadworks) further along I obeyed, after several
more turns I was back on the A36, a bit higher than where I'd started
the detour. After that I decided to trust my knowledge of Bath.
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athel
Peter Moylan
2019-10-20 10:11:06 UTC
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Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by Katy Jennison
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by John Dunlop
Post by phil
Though I notice (and this may be primarily a northern UK
usage) that Brit truck/lorry drivers often seem to refer to
their vehicles as 'the wagon'.
I wonder if any non-Brits use, or are aware of, "juggernaut" in
the sense of "heavy/articulated lorry".
The word was introduced (or adopted from India), if memory
serves, for the huge lorries that, according to the people who
have become Brexiteers, the French and Germans wanted to impose
on idyllic English villages. Nonsense, of course, but what else
do you expect from the people who have become Brexiteers?
What, you mean that the devilish sat-navs which send these things
down the sort of minor roads where they get stuck and have to be
hauled backwards by someone's tractor for half a mile aren't really
programmed by wicked Brussels bureaucrats?
I lost a lot of my faith in my GPS when I used it in England for the
first time. I know perfectly well how to get to Bath on the A36,
following down the hill to the London Road and then turning right.
However, before I got to bottom of the hill the GPS told me to turn
right onto a smallish road. Thinking there might be roadworks (though
this was more than ten years ago, and I'm sure if it was
sophisticated enough to know about roadworks) further along I obeyed,
after several more turns I was back on the A36, a bit higher than
where I'd started the detour. After that I decided to trust my
knowledge of Bath.
One of mine, a Garmin several years ago, took me on a "short cut"
through fire trails. After a while I developed a genuine fear of
breaking an axle somewhere among the rocks and the puddles of unknown
depth, but it was the sort of track where a U-turn would have been
physically impossible, and I didn't like the idea of driving in reverse
for several kilometres on a rough bush track, so I pushed ahead. The
detour added an hour to my travel time.

As soon as I got home I dumped that device and bought a more reputable
brand.
--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Janet
2019-10-20 11:54:38 UTC
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In article <***@mid.individual.net>, ***@imm.cnrs.fr
says...
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by John Dunlop
Post by phil
Though I notice (and this may be primarily a northern UK usage) that
Brit truck/lorry drivers often seem to refer to their vehicles as 'the
wagon'.
I wonder if any non-Brits use, or are aware of, "juggernaut" in the
sense of "heavy/articulated lorry".
The word was introduced (or adopted from India), if memory serves, for
the huge lorries that, according to the people who have become
Brexiteers, the French and Germans wanted to impose on idyllic English
villages. Nonsense, of course, but what else do you expect from the
people who have become Brexiteers?
Nothing to do with Brexit, everything to do with reliance on Satnav

https://tinyurl.com/y62tvlrh

Janet
Athel Cornish-Bowden
2019-10-20 12:57:18 UTC
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Post by Janet
says...
Post by Athel Cornish-Bowden
Post by John Dunlop
Post by phil
Though I notice (and this may be primarily a northern UK usage) that
Brit truck/lorry drivers often seem to refer to their vehicles as 'the
wagon'.
I wonder if any non-Brits use, or are aware of, "juggernaut" in the
sense of "heavy/articulated lorry".
The word was introduced (or adopted from India), if memory serves, for
the huge lorries that, according to the people who have become
Brexiteers, the French and Germans wanted to impose on idyllic English
villages. Nonsense, of course, but what else do you expect from the
people who have become Brexiteers?
Nothing to do with Brexit, everything to do with reliance on Satnav
https://tinyurl.com/y62tvlrh
Well yes. That's basically what Katy and I have already said. In any
case, I didn't mentioned Brexit, I mentioned the people who have become
Brexiteers.
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athel
Anders D. Nygaard
2019-10-20 11:39:14 UTC
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Post by John Dunlop
Post by phil
Though I notice (and this may be primarily a northern UK usage) that
Brit truck/lorry drivers often seem to refer to their vehicles as 'the
wagon'.
I wonder if any non-Brits use, or are aware of, "juggernaut" in the
sense of "heavy/articulated lorry".
It's used to refer to Trump.
No, not that one; the current world champion.

<URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judd_Trump>, however,
appears to disagree - I must turn up my hearing aid.

/Anders, Denmark.
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
2019-10-20 12:46:30 UTC
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On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 13:39:14 +0200, "Anders D. Nygaard"
Post by Anders D. Nygaard
Post by John Dunlop
Post by phil
Though I notice (and this may be primarily a northern UK usage) that
Brit truck/lorry drivers often seem to refer to their vehicles as 'the
wagon'.
I wonder if any non-Brits use, or are aware of, "juggernaut" in the
sense of "heavy/articulated lorry".
It's used to refer to Trump.
No, not that one; the current world champion.
<URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judd_Trump>, however,
appears to disagree - I must turn up my hearing aid.
/Anders, Denmark.
His nickname is a play on "Judd" and "juggernaut": "Juddernaut".

There is a list of snooker player's nicknames here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_snooker_player_nicknames
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Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Ross
2019-10-19 04:26:10 UTC
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Post by David Kleinecke
Do people in England ever have truck with one another?
Used to, anyway:

a1807 J. Skinner Amusem. Leisure Hours (1809) 96 Ye and I have had
a trock This forty year.
1866 Notes & Queries 3rd Ser. 9 400/1 [In Suffolk] A man who has left
off courting a girl, says that he has ‘no more truck along o'har’.
1899 R. Whiteing No. 5 John St. xxvi. 259 Fust time in 'er life..she's
ever 'ad any truck with any of them sort.
1929 H. S. Walpole Hans Frost iii. iii. 333 I don't want to have any truck with the world at all.
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
2019-10-19 10:16:56 UTC
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On Fri, 18 Oct 2019 17:28:08 -0700 (PDT), David Kleinecke
Post by David Kleinecke
Do people in England ever have truck with one another?
That sort of truck and truck = lorry are different words with different
origins even though the spelling and pronunciation are the same.
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Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Mark Brader
2019-10-19 10:23:24 UTC
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David Kleinecke
Post by Peter Duncanson [BrE]
Post by David Kleinecke
Do people in England ever have truck with one another?
That sort of truck and truck = lorry are different words with different
origins even though the spelling and pronunciation are the same.
ObQuinion: http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-hav3.htm
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Steve Hayes
2019-10-31 03:55:59 UTC
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Post by David Kleinecke
Do people in England ever have truck with one another?
The wholesale firm of W.G. Brown & Co (Durban)used to announce, as
recently as the 1960s, that part of their business was "kaffir truck".
--
Steve Hayes http://khanya.wordpress.com
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