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The Alternative Dilemma?
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Amazing Answers
2018-08-26 04:38:24 UTC
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The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.

This argument is flawed.

Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer that was used for hacking?

No.

Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
Tim
2018-08-26 06:35:06 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must have known that free will would make some people evil, yet he let it happen. Therefore your god can't be seen as benevolent.

You should learn some logic.
Yap Honghor
2018-08-26 09:36:30 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must have known that free will would make some people evil, yet he let it happen. Therefore your god can't be seen as benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
To be fair, a donkey knows nothing about logic!!!!!!!!!
aaa
2018-08-28 00:09:55 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer
that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not
to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is omnipotent,
omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must have known that free
will would make some people evil, yet he let it happen. Therefore
your god can't be seen as benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is only a
human mistake. A human mistake should not be blamed on God.
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Yap Honghor
2018-08-28 01:46:32 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer
that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not
to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is omnipotent,
omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must have known that free
will would make some people evil, yet he let it happen. Therefore
your god can't be seen as benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is only a
human mistake. A human mistake should not be blamed on God.
Since pixie is only an imagination, it is not a mistake of human.
It is part of those fools....
aaa
2018-08-28 02:37:27 UTC
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Post by Tim
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer
that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not
to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is omnipotent,
omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must have known that free
will would make some people evil, yet he let it happen. Therefore
your god can't be seen as benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is only a
human mistake. A human mistake should not be blamed on God.
Since pixie is only an imagination, it is not a mistake of human.
It is part of those fools....
God is never an imagination. The human sin is the real imagination in
the mind that replaces God.
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God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Yap Honghor
2018-08-28 09:34:25 UTC
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Post by Tim
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer
that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not
to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is omnipotent,
omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must have known that free
will would make some people evil, yet he let it happen. Therefore
your god can't be seen as benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is only a
human mistake. A human mistake should not be blamed on God.
Since pixie is only an imagination, it is not a mistake of human.
It is part of those fools....
God is never an imagination. The human sin is the real imagination in
the mind that replaces God.
How many times you need me to repeat: "THERE IS NO FUCKING PIXIE IN THIS UNIVERSE!!!!!"
aaa
2018-08-28 16:27:50 UTC
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On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 12:38:27 AM UTC-4, Amazing
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He
created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every
computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any
product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their
products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is
omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must
have known that free will would make some people evil, yet he
let it happen. Therefore your god can't be seen as
benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is
only a human mistake. A human mistake should not be blamed on
God.
Since pixie is only an imagination, it is not a mistake of
human. It is part of those fools....
God is never an imagination. The human sin is the real imagination
in the mind that replaces God.
How many times you need me to repeat: "THERE IS NO FUCKING PIXIE IN THIS UNIVERSE!!!!!"
Your imagination doesn't really exist. That has nothing to do with God.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Yap Honghor
2018-08-30 09:16:57 UTC
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On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 12:38:27 AM UTC-4, Amazing
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every
computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any
product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their
products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is
omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must
have known that free will would make some people evil, yet he
let it happen. Therefore your god can't be seen as
benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is
only a human mistake. A human mistake should not be blamed on
God.
Since pixie is only an imagination, it is not a mistake of
human. It is part of those fools....
God is never an imagination. The human sin is the real imagination
in the mind that replaces God.
How many times you need me to repeat: "THERE IS NO FUCKING PIXIE IN THIS UNIVERSE!!!!!"
Your imagination doesn't really exist. That has nothing to do with God.
My imagination doesn't exist while yours exists?
aaa
2018-08-31 13:49:24 UTC
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Post by aaa
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 12:38:27 AM UTC-4, Amazing
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every
computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any
product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their
products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is
omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must
have known that free will would make some people evil, yet he
let it happen. Therefore your god can't be seen as
benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is
only a human mistake. A human mistake should not be blamed on
God.
Since pixie is only an imagination, it is not a mistake of
human. It is part of those fools....
God is never an imagination. The human sin is the real imagination
in the mind that replaces God.
How many times you need me to repeat: "THERE IS NO FUCKING PIXIE IN THIS UNIVERSE!!!!!"
Your imagination doesn't really exist. That has nothing to do with God.
My imagination doesn't exist while yours exists?
I don't have to imagine God since I already know that God lives in my heart.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Yap Honghor
2018-09-02 02:01:54 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every
computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any
product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their
products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is
omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must
have known that free will would make some people evil, yet he
let it happen. Therefore your god can't be seen as
benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is
only a human mistake. A human mistake should not be blamed on
God.
Since pixie is only an imagination, it is not a mistake of
human. It is part of those fools....
God is never an imagination. The human sin is the real imagination
in the mind that replaces God.
How many times you need me to repeat: "THERE IS NO FUCKING PIXIE IN
THIS UNIVERSE!!!!!"
Your imagination doesn't really exist. That has nothing to do with God.
My imagination doesn't exist while yours exists?
I don't have to imagine God since I already know that God lives in my heart.
And since you have a broken head, your pixie also is broken while living in you!
Cloud Hobbit
2018-08-28 02:13:03 UTC
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According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is only a
human mistake. A human mistake should not be blamed on God.
___________________

But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
That might get you off the hook for being deliberately stupid.
aaa
2018-08-28 03:38:26 UTC
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According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is only a
human mistake. A human mistake should not be blamed on God.
___________________
But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
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That might get you off the hook for being deliberately stupid.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Cloud Hobbit
2018-08-28 19:44:36 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.

Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?

That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.

As long as God is claimed to be omniscient then EVERYTHING happens the way it does because God knew it would and that makes it his responsibility.

FUCK you're stupid.
Or a liar.
Smiler
2018-08-29 01:58:16 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.
As long as God is claimed to be omniscient then EVERYTHING happens the
way it does because God knew it would and that makes it his
responsibility.
FUCK you're stupid.
Or a liar.
The two aren't mutually exclusive.
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All gods are tailored to order. They're made
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aaa
2018-08-29 02:10:53 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun
backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the proper usage
of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Post by aaa
As long as God is claimed to be omniscient then EVERYTHING happens
the way it does because God knew it would and that makes it his
responsibility.
FUCK you're stupid. Or a liar.
Not true. Your logic is the real stupid logic. A good university
professor often knows which student is going to fail in his class.
According to you, that professor should take the blame for knowingly
allowing his student to fail. Is that what you are telling me?
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Smiler
2018-08-30 01:44:38 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the proper usage
of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
As long as God is claimed to be omniscient then EVERYTHING happens the
way it does because God knew it would and that makes it his
responsibility.
FUCK you're stupid. Or a liar.
Not true. Your logic is the real stupid logic. A good university
professor often knows which student is going to fail in his class.
According to you, that professor should take the blame for knowingly
allowing his student to fail. Is that what you are telling me?
Professors are not omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent beings.
But if too many of his students fail, he's not doing his job correctly and should
take the blame.
--
Smiler, The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made
to exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

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aaa
2018-08-30 18:33:23 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the proper usage
of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the evidence
of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only be written under
the personal direction of God himself.
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
As long as God is claimed to be omniscient then EVERYTHING happens the
way it does because God knew it would and that makes it his
responsibility.
FUCK you're stupid. Or a liar.
Not true. Your logic is the real stupid logic. A good university
professor often knows which student is going to fail in his class.
According to you, that professor should take the blame for knowingly
allowing his student to fail. Is that what you are telling me?
Professors are not omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent beings.
But if too many of his students fail, he's not doing his job correctly and should
take the blame.
God has guaranteed that none of his students would fail in his class.
It's called predestination.
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Cloud Hobbit
2018-08-30 19:41:22 UTC
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The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the evidence
of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only be written under
the personal direction of God himself.
______________

Because he was to lazy to write his own bible and clear up the hundreds of contradictions.

He could have willed one into existence and made it understandable to everyone but no, supposedly he used "divine inspiration" which apparently involved a shitty chanel of communication and the messages were somewhat garbled. That's why so much of it is crap.

Your imaginary God as portrayed in the bible is a petulant psychopath who kills people for things that happened hundred of years prior to his actions of murder and nonconcondemnation of child rape and sexual slavery.

No way does an eyes wide open, objective look at the bible show it to be anything holy, just a lot crazy shit by a crazy bastard who had not yet learned that slavery, murder, and child sex abuse were bad things he should have spoken of and condemned.

My eyes are open and there is nothing that Christianity has to offer that I want or need.
aaa
2018-08-30 19:59:08 UTC
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The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the evidence
of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only be written under
the personal direction of God himself.
______________
Because he was to lazy to write his own bible and clear up the hundreds of contradictions.
He could have willed one into existence and made it understandable to everyone but no, supposedly he used "divine inspiration" which apparently involved a shitty chanel of communication and the messages were somewhat garbled. That's why so much of it is crap.
Your imaginary God as portrayed in the bible is a petulant psychopath who kills people for things that happened hundred of years prior to his actions of murder and nonconcondemnation of child rape and sexual slavery.
No way does an eyes wide open, objective look at the bible show it to be anything holy, just a lot crazy shit by a crazy bastard who had not yet learned that slavery, murder, and child sex abuse were bad things he should have spoken of and condemned.
My eyes are open and there is nothing that Christianity has to offer that I want or need.
Your intellectual eyes are open, but your philosophical eyes are wide shut.
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Mitchell Holman
2018-08-31 01:54:58 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the proper
usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the evidence
of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only be written
under the personal direction of God himself.
Then explain why the Bible contradicts
itself. Over and over................
aaa
2018-08-31 13:51:06 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the proper
usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the evidence
of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only be written
under the personal direction of God himself.
Then explain why the Bible contradicts
itself. Over and over................
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Mitchell Holman
2018-08-31 18:23:01 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the proper
usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the evidence
of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only be written
under the personal direction of God himself.
Then explain why the Bible contradicts
itself. Over and over................
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
How did Judas die?
aaa
2018-09-01 01:18:01 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns
are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the proper
usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the evidence
of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only be written
under the personal direction of God himself.
Then explain why the Bible contradicts
itself. Over and over................
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
How did Judas die?
I don't know. Why don't you read the Bible yourself?
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God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Mitchell Holman
2018-09-01 12:27:37 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that
guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the
proper usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the
evidence of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only be
written under the personal direction of God himself.
Then explain why the Bible contradicts
itself. Over and over................
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
How did Judas die?
I don't know. Why don't you read the Bible yourself?
a. In Matthew 27:5 Judas hangs himself.

b. In Acts 1:18 Judas throws himself off a cliff.


Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Kevrob
2018-09-01 12:44:40 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that
guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the
proper usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the
evidence of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only be
written under the personal direction of God himself.
Then explain why the Bible contradicts
itself. Over and over................
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
How did Judas die?
I don't know. Why don't you read the Bible yourself?
a. In Matthew 27:5 Judas hangs himself.
b. In Acts 1:18 Judas throws himself off a cliff.
Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Judas obviously did one thing, then the other. Don't ask me in what order.

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Smiler
2018-09-02 03:27:56 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean
God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun
backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that
guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the
proper usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the
evidence of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only
be written under the personal direction of God himself.
Then explain why the Bible contradicts
itself. Over and over................
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions
are only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
How did Judas die?
I don't know. Why don't you read the Bible yourself?
a. In Matthew 27:5 Judas hangs himself.
b. In Acts 1:18 Judas throws himself off a cliff.
Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Judas obviously did one thing, then the other. Don't ask me in what order.
He could have thrown himself off of a cliff with a rope around his neck, but
neither verse mentions that possibility.
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Greywolf
2018-09-01 14:39:22 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that
guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the
proper usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the
evidence of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only be
written under the personal direction of God himself.
Then explain why the Bible contradicts
itself. Over and over................
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
How did Judas die?
I don't know. Why don't you read the Bible yourself?
a. In Matthew 27:5 Judas hangs himself.
b. In Acts 1:18 Judas throws himself off a cliff.
Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
________

Oh, you're going to love *this* one.

Christian apologists argue that there's no contradiction whatsoever. They insist both Mathew and Luke report the same incident--that Judas hung himself--but that Luke (the "physician") is describing what happened to Judas' body after it hung in the hot sun and left to decompose.

The apologists maintain that it was at this point that the rope, or the tree branch broke and Judas' bloated, decomposed body burst asunder upon hitting the ground.

Quite imaginative the liars are, aren't they?

The problem with that lie is Luke makes no mention whatsoever of a hanging. We're to think God caused such an unusual, oddball, bizarre death to emphasize how grave Judas' "crime" was. And so God's "punishment" for it.

But if Luke believed Judas died by hanging, he would have at least mentioned the hanging and *then* report what happened to the body days after the hanging.

Luke's fiction is used to claim Judas' death in his account fulfills the OT "prophecy" of Psalms 69:25. Which, of course, is no "prophecy" at all. But you know how the gospel writers see OT prophecy being "fulfilled" by Jesus. I'm surprised they haven't used OT passages as "prophesying" Jesus' farting spells.

What is lost in all this by Christian apologists is the fact that Judas was created *precisely* to do what he did. He was "wired" by the God Jesus Himself to betray Him while God Jesus played the role of "Jesus of Nazareth."

So to punish Judas in such a way for doing *exactly* what he was created to do is *beyond* evil.

And what does the God Jesus have to say after creating Judas to do what he did?

"Woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born."

Hey Jesus! You created Him for the express purpose of betraying you, you moron.

So eternal suffering for poor Judas for something he had absolutely no control over. But I'm sure the God Jesus will cause Judas to suffer for all of eternity in a very, very, God-like "loving" way. He's so full of "love," you know.

One final note: Jesus never really "died." He couldn't have *possibly* died due to the fact that during the entire time of His supposed "death," the God in Jesus didn't die. So the "entity" known as Jesus of Nazareth never died due to being fully God the entire time.

Jesus was ONE entity, not two. And He wasn't "possessed" by deity. He WAS deity. And Gods don't "die."

Anyone interested can read: https://theatheistobserver.com/2018/06/04/did-jesus-really-die-on-the-cross/

The fiction was created to fulfill the "prophecy" of
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2018-09-01 17:48:37 UTC
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Jesus was ONE entity, not two. And He wasn't "possessed" by deity. He
WAS deity.
If there are still any atheists here who sincerely wants evidence that God
is, then they need to talk to Greywolf. Because although he is an atheist,
and is very skeptical, he knows. He has enough evidence to convince him.

He knows, so talk to him.
Kevrob
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Jesus was ONE entity, not two. And He wasn't "possessed" by deity. He
WAS deity.
If there are still any atheists here who sincerely wants evidence that God
is, then they need to talk to Greywolf. Because although he is an atheist,
and is very skeptical, he knows. He has enough evidence to convince him.
He knows, so talk to him.
Better the `wolf then you.

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Greywolf
2018-09-02 05:25:54 UTC
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Jesus was ONE entity, not two. And He wasn't "possessed" by deity. He
WAS deity.
If there are still any atheists here who sincerely wants evidence that God
is, then they need to talk to Greywolf. Because although he is an atheist,
and is very skeptical, he knows. He has enough evidence to convince him.
He knows, so talk to him.
___________

What a lying sack of shit you are. Is this how low you've sunk? You cannot promote the adoration of an Evil God any longer. So you stoop to this kind of nonsense.

Yes, I have enough evidence to believe that the God Jesus in whom *you* believe is as Evil as sin. I've provided you with irrefutable evidence of it.

But I'm not the one who believes in the existence of "God." *You* are! So don't try inferring *I'm* a God believer. That's as ridiculous as it gets.

Why even try to infer it, Andrew? Things have gotten *that* desperate for you?
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2018-09-01 16:35:56 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that
guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the
proper usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the
evidence of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only be
written under the personal direction of God himself.
Then explain why the Bible contradicts
itself. Over and over................
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
How did Judas die?
I don't know. Why don't you read the Bible yourself?
a. In Matthew 27:5 Judas hangs himself.
b. In Acts 1:18 Judas throws himself off a cliff.
Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of the
Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there would be no
need of God.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Mitchell Holman
2018-09-01 17:20:26 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that
guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the
proper usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the
evidence of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only be
written under the personal direction of God himself.
Then explain why the Bible contradicts
itself. Over and over................
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
How did Judas die?
I don't know. Why don't you read the Bible yourself?
a. In Matthew 27:5 Judas hangs himself.
b. In Acts 1:18 Judas throws himself off a cliff.
Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of the
Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there would be no
need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
aaa
2018-09-01 23:51:42 UTC
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But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the
blame.
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Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean
God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun
backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that
guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the
proper usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Your evidence that your supposed god wrote anything is what?
Beliefs, opinions and 'holy' books are NOT evidence.
The truth of the Bible can only be the work of God. It is the
evidence of God, and it is the evidence that the Bible can only
be
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written under the personal direction of God himself.
Then explain why the Bible contradicts
itself. Over and over................
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions
are
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only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
How did Judas die?
I don't know. Why don't you read the Bible yourself?
a. In Matthew 27:5 Judas hangs himself.
b. In Acts 1:18 Judas throws himself off a cliff.
Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of the
Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there would be no
need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's spiritual
truth is essential to all of us.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Mitchell Holman
2018-09-02 01:56:38 UTC
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Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of the
Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there would be no
need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's spiritual
truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?

That IS what you saying, you know........
aaa
2018-09-03 00:00:38 UTC
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Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of the
Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there would be no
need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's spiritual
truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the Bible
in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Mitchell Holman
2018-09-03 01:23:36 UTC
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Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
aaa
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Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Mitchell Holman
2018-09-04 02:14:09 UTC
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Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
I have posted passages from the Bible, from
the very objective Bible Gateway site, that you
continue to reject.

And your source for "bible truth" is......?
aaa
2018-09-04 15:39:11 UTC
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Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
I have posted passages from the Bible, from
the very objective Bible Gateway site, that you
continue to reject.
And your source for "bible truth" is......?
I'm sorry to tell you the sad news. The truth of the Bible isn't exactly
"written" in the Bible. The truth of the Bible is only reflected by the
Bible instead. God's truth is spiritual. The spiritual can't be shown
physically or mentally. The spiritual can only be indicated and
reflected philosophically instead.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Yap Honghor
2018-09-04 03:56:10 UTC
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Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
All human know that the bible is a con scripture, the worse kind in this world!!!!!!
Amazing Answers
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Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
All human know that the bible is a con scripture, the worse kind in this world!!!!!!
no need to be expressive of emotion. Use logic and facts.
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Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
All human know that the bible is a con scripture, the worse kind in this world!!!!!!
no need to be expressive of emotion. Use logic and facts.
________

Want to see logic and a theological fact appear before your very eyes?

The God Jesus created EVERYTHING in existence. Evil Exists. The God Jesus, therefore, created Evil.

Now that wasn't too hard to follow, was it? Perfectly logical, wasn't it? And absolutely factual, don't you agree?

So either admit it's true, or take a hike!

And none of your goofy-ass "scenarios" that never pin-point who created very Evil itself. Theologically speaking, you know damn well who did. But you're not intellectually honest enough to admit it.

That being the case, there's absolutely no reason for you to post here.
Amazing Answers
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Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
All human know that the bible is a con scripture, the worse kind in this world!!!!!!
no need to be expressive of emotion. Use logic and facts.
________
Want to see logic and a theological fact appear before your very eyes?
The God Jesus created EVERYTHING in existence. Evil Exists. The God Jesus, therefore, created Evil.
Now that wasn't too hard to follow, was it? Perfectly logical, wasn't it? And absolutely factual, don't you agree?
So either admit it's true, or take a hike!
And none of your goofy-ass "scenarios" that never pin-point who created very Evil itself. Theologically speaking, you know damn well who did. But you're not intellectually honest enough to admit it.
That being the case, there's absolutely no reason for you to post here.
Free will.
Yap Honghor
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Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
All human know that the bible is a con scripture, the worse kind in this world!!!!!!
no need to be expressive of emotion. Use logic and facts.
________
Want to see logic and a theological fact appear before your very eyes?
The God Jesus created EVERYTHING in existence. Evil Exists. The God Jesus, therefore, created Evil.
Now that wasn't too hard to follow, was it? Perfectly logical, wasn't it? And absolutely factual, don't you agree?
So either admit it's true, or take a hike!
And none of your goofy-ass "scenarios" that never pin-point who created very Evil itself. Theologically speaking, you know damn well who did. But you're not intellectually honest enough to admit it.
That being the case, there's absolutely no reason for you to post here.
Free will.
You use free will to try to con us with your inane stories???????
Who gives you that right?
Greywolf
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Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
All human know that the bible is a con scripture, the worse kind in this world!!!!!!
no need to be expressive of emotion. Use logic and facts.
________
Want to see logic and a theological fact appear before your very eyes?
The God Jesus created EVERYTHING in existence. Evil Exists. The God Jesus, therefore, created Evil.
Now that wasn't too hard to follow, was it? Perfectly logical, wasn't it? And absolutely factual, don't you agree?
So either admit it's true, or take a hike!
And none of your goofy-ass "scenarios" that never pin-point who created very Evil itself. Theologically speaking, you know damn well who did. But you're not intellectually honest enough to admit it.
That being the case, there's absolutely no reason for you to post here.
Free will.
-------

See, you're proving that you're nothing but a fuck-head. You're posting here simply to be a fuck-head. So you can dispense with the pretense that you're posting here to have a "meaningful dialogue."

You're as phony and as mentally-ill as they come. And the fact is, you've proven it.
unknown
2018-09-04 17:07:56 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
All human know that the bible is a con scripture, the worse kind in this world!!!!!!
no need to be expressive of emotion. Use logic and facts.
________
Want to see logic and a theological fact appear before your very eyes?
The God Jesus created EVERYTHING in existence. Evil Exists. The God Jesus, therefore, created Evil.
Now that wasn't too hard to follow, was it? Perfectly logical, wasn't it? And absolutely factual, don't you agree?
So either admit it's true, or take a hike!
And none of your goofy-ass "scenarios" that never pin-point who created very Evil itself. Theologically speaking, you know damn well who did. But you're not intellectually honest enough to admit it.
That being the case, there's absolutely no reason for you to post here.
Free will.
-------
See, you're proving that you're nothing but a fuck-head. You're posting here simply to be a fuck-head. So you can dispense with the pretense that you're posting here to have a "meaningful dialogue."
You're as phony and as mentally-ill as they come. And the fact is, you've proven it.
so why do you keep returning to a place ,
where you don't like anyone and you don't have a good time here ,
and yet you keep returning to punish yourself some more
Tim
2018-09-04 08:47:25 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
All human know that the bible is a con scripture, the worse kind in this world!!!!!!
no need to be expressive of emotion. Use logic and facts.
What emotion? He gave you the facts, your religious indoctrination has clouded your reasoning skills. In fact it has erased them.
Yap Honghor
2018-09-04 09:18:01 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
All human know that the bible is a con scripture, the worse kind in this world!!!!!!
no need to be expressive of emotion. Use logic and facts.
My words are of logic and facts, donkey!
aaa
2018-09-04 15:42:51 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
All human know that the bible is a con scripture, the worse kind in this world!!!!!!
Unfortunately, the philosophy of the Bible is only written for the
chosen few.
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Tim
2018-09-04 19:08:57 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Tell us again about no contradictions in the Bible.
Human mistake isn't any contradiction. It's an important part of
the Bible teaching. If humans could stop making mistakes, there
would be no need of God.
The Bible is full of "human mistakes", as you
put it . So why believe any of it is "divine"?
Because human mistakes can't affect God's spiritual truth in the
slightest, and human mistakes are one of the reasons why God's
spiritual truth is essential to all of us.
So god controls everything in the universe
but he is helpless to prevent his written message
to mankind from being mangled?
That IS what you saying, you know........
Not really. I'm saying no human being can affect the truth of the
Bible in the slightest no matter what they do to the Bible.
That would be the "truth of the Bible"
that you reject every time it is posted here?
That would be you since you don't appear to know the truth of the Bible yet.
All human know that the bible is a con scripture, the worse kind in this world!!!!!!
Unfortunately, the philosophy of the Bible is only written for the
chosen few.
Yes those few who are too stupid to distinguish real philosophy from mythology.
Cloud Hobbit
2018-08-31 18:25:15 UTC
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There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
- hide quoted text -

Unfortunately, the entire world disagrees with you. That's why there are apologists to try and explain them.

Literally hundreds of contradictions exist in the bible. You denying they exist is further proof that you're a liar and/or a loon.
aaa
2018-09-01 02:25:59 UTC
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Post by aaa
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
- hide quoted text -
Unfortunately, the entire world disagrees with you. That's why there are apologists to try and explain them.
Literally hundreds of contradictions exist in the bible. You denying they exist is further proof that you're a liar and/or a loon.
I have faith that the truth of the Bible will make everything
self-explanatory.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Yap Honghor
2018-09-02 02:04:45 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by aaa
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible.
- hide quoted text -
Unfortunately, the entire world disagrees with you. That's why there are apologists to try and explain them.
Literally hundreds of contradictions exist in the bible. You denying they exist is further proof that you're a liar and/or a loon.
I have faith that the truth of the Bible will make everything
self-explanatory.
You don't know anything and not wanting to learn, but have faith in the truth??? You don't see your nonsense as laughable????
aaa
2018-09-03 00:02:48 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The
contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible. - hide quoted
text -
Unfortunately, the entire world disagrees with you. That's why
there are apologists to try and explain them.
Literally hundreds of contradictions exist in the bible. You
denying they exist is further proof that you're a liar and/or a
loon.
I have faith that the truth of the Bible will make everything
self-explanatory.
You don't know anything and not wanting to learn, but have faith in
the truth??? You don't see your nonsense as laughable????
Nope. Faith has taught me everything. I'm only too happy to continue to
learn from faith.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Mitchell Holman
2018-09-03 01:25:24 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The
contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible. - hide quoted
text -
Unfortunately, the entire world disagrees with you. That's why
there are apologists to try and explain them.
Literally hundreds of contradictions exist in the bible. You
denying they exist is further proof that you're a liar and/or a
loon.
I have faith that the truth of the Bible will make everything
self-explanatory.
You don't know anything and not wanting to learn, but have faith in
the truth??? You don't see your nonsense as laughable????
Nope. Faith has taught me everything. I'm only too happy to continue to
learn from faith.
Faith in what - the Bible you have never read?
aaa
2018-09-03 17:07:04 UTC
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Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The
contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible. - hide quoted
text -
Unfortunately, the entire world disagrees with you. That's why
there are apologists to try and explain them.
Literally hundreds of contradictions exist in the bible. You
denying they exist is further proof that you're a liar and/or a
loon.
I have faith that the truth of the Bible will make everything
self-explanatory.
You don't know anything and not wanting to learn, but have faith in
the truth??? You don't see your nonsense as laughable????
Nope. Faith has taught me everything. I'm only too happy to continue to
learn from faith.
Faith in what - the Bible you have never read?
Faith in the truth of the Bible, yes.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Smiler
2018-09-04 02:29:24 UTC
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Post by aaa
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible. - hide quoted
text -
Unfortunately, the entire world disagrees with you. That's why
there are apologists to try and explain them.
Literally hundreds of contradictions exist in the bible. You
denying they exist is further proof that you're a liar and/or a
loon.
I have faith that the truth of the Bible will make everything
self-explanatory.
You don't know anything and not wanting to learn, but have faith in
the truth??? You don't see your nonsense as laughable????
Nope. Faith has taught me everything. I'm only too happy to continue
to learn from faith.
Faith in what - the Bible you have never read?
Faith in the truth of the Bible, yes.
How do you know it's true if you've never read it?
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All gods are tailored to order. They're made
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aaa
2018-09-04 15:50:22 UTC
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Post by aaa
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Post by aaa
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Post by aaa
Post by aaa
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible. - hide quoted
text -
Unfortunately, the entire world disagrees with you. That's why
there are apologists to try and explain them.
Literally hundreds of contradictions exist in the bible. You
denying they exist is further proof that you're a liar and/or a
loon.
I have faith that the truth of the Bible will make everything
self-explanatory.
You don't know anything and not wanting to learn, but have faith in
the truth??? You don't see your nonsense as laughable????
Nope. Faith has taught me everything. I'm only too happy to continue
to learn from faith.
Faith in what - the Bible you have never read?
Faith in the truth of the Bible, yes.
How do you know it's true if you've never read it?
Because the truth can never be false.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Tim
2018-09-04 19:10:04 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Smiler
Post by aaa
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by aaa
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible. - hide quoted
text -
Unfortunately, the entire world disagrees with you. That's why
there are apologists to try and explain them.
Literally hundreds of contradictions exist in the bible. You
denying they exist is further proof that you're a liar and/or a
loon.
I have faith that the truth of the Bible will make everything
self-explanatory.
You don't know anything and not wanting to learn, but have faith in
the truth??? You don't see your nonsense as laughable????
Nope. Faith has taught me everything. I'm only too happy to continue
to learn from faith.
Faith in what - the Bible you have never read?
Faith in the truth of the Bible, yes.
How do you know it's true if you've never read it?
Because the truth can never be false.
It's mid-afternoon here, that's the truth. But in several hours it'll be evening. So the first truth will soon be false. Try harder, then you won't look so stupid.
Yap Honghor
2018-09-04 03:54:48 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The
contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible. - hide quoted
text -
Unfortunately, the entire world disagrees with you. That's why
there are apologists to try and explain them.
Literally hundreds of contradictions exist in the bible. You
denying they exist is further proof that you're a liar and/or a
loon.
I have faith that the truth of the Bible will make everything
self-explanatory.
You don't know anything and not wanting to learn, but have faith in
the truth??? You don't see your nonsense as laughable????
Nope. Faith has taught me everything. I'm only too happy to continue to
learn from faith.
And since faith is nothing, it means you continue to learn nothing!!!!!
But, that is what theists do...
aaa
2018-09-04 15:51:21 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The
contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible. - hide quoted
text -
Unfortunately, the entire world disagrees with you. That's why
there are apologists to try and explain them.
Literally hundreds of contradictions exist in the bible. You
denying they exist is further proof that you're a liar and/or a
loon.
I have faith that the truth of the Bible will make everything
self-explanatory.
You don't know anything and not wanting to learn, but have faith in
the truth??? You don't see your nonsense as laughable????
Nope. Faith has taught me everything. I'm only too happy to continue to
learn from faith.
And since faith is nothing, it means you continue to learn nothing!!!!!
But, that is what theists do...
You only prove your ignorance of faith.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Tim
2018-09-04 19:10:39 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
There is no contradiction found in the Bible. The
contradictions are
only found in your own understanding of the Bible. - hide quoted
text -
Unfortunately, the entire world disagrees with you. That's why
there are apologists to try and explain them.
Literally hundreds of contradictions exist in the bible. You
denying they exist is further proof that you're a liar and/or a
loon.
I have faith that the truth of the Bible will make everything
self-explanatory.
You don't know anything and not wanting to learn, but have faith in
the truth??? You don't see your nonsense as laughable????
Nope. Faith has taught me everything. I'm only too happy to continue to
learn from faith.
And since faith is nothing, it means you continue to learn nothing!!!!!
But, that is what theists do...
You only prove your ignorance of faith.
Faith is ignorance.
Yap Honghor
2018-08-30 09:23:19 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the proper usage
of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Some more nonsense from the ass of aaa.
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
As long as God is claimed to be omniscient then EVERYTHING happens
the way it does because God knew it would and that makes it his
responsibility.
FUCK you're stupid. Or a liar.
Not true. Your logic is the real stupid logic. A good university
professor often knows which student is going to fail in his class.
And the professor fails in his teaching....
Post by aaa
According to you, that professor should take the blame for knowingly
allowing his student to fail. Is that what you are telling me?
Being responsible, if he "often knows" as in your sentence above, it merely tells us that the professor fails in his teaching profession, not making effort to teach properly!!!!!

This is also why you failed because your professor never taught you what is philosophy!!!
aaa
2018-08-30 17:25:09 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the
blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the proper
usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Some more nonsense from the ass of aaa.
Blind denial.
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
As long as God is claimed to be omniscient then EVERYTHING
happens the way it does because God knew it would and that makes
it his responsibility.
FUCK you're stupid. Or a liar.
Not true. Your logic is the real stupid logic. A good university
professor often knows which student is going to fail in his class.
And the professor fails in his teaching....
That's why all should learn from God who never fails.
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
According to you, that professor should take the blame for
knowingly allowing his student to fail. Is that what you are
telling me?
Being responsible, if he "often knows" as in your sentence above, it
merely tells us that the professor fails in his teaching profession,
not making effort to teach properly!!!!!
Bullshit. You can't blame a professor when it's the student who doesn't
want to learn. The professor doesn't have to force feed his students
with the knowledge they don't want to know.
Post by Yap Honghor
This is also why you failed because your professor never taught you what is philosophy!!!
What the fuck is that? What are you talking about?
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Yap Honghor
2018-08-31 02:15:21 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the
blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the proper
usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Some more nonsense from the ass of aaa.
Blind denial.
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
As long as God is claimed to be omniscient then EVERYTHING
happens the way it does because God knew it would and that makes
it his responsibility.
FUCK you're stupid. Or a liar.
Not true. Your logic is the real stupid logic. A good university
professor often knows which student is going to fail in his class.
And the professor fails in his teaching....
That's why all should learn from God who never fails.
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
According to you, that professor should take the blame for
knowingly allowing his student to fail. Is that what you are
telling me?
Being responsible, if he "often knows" as in your sentence above, it
merely tells us that the professor fails in his teaching profession,
not making effort to teach properly!!!!!
Bullshit. You can't blame a professor when it's the student who doesn't
want to learn. The professor doesn't have to force feed his students
with the knowledge they don't want to know.
Post by Yap Honghor
This is also why you failed because your professor never taught you
what is philosophy!!!
What the fuck is that? What are you talking about?
When the teacher was in the front teaching, you were asleep...no wonder you know nothing about nothing about philosophy!!!!
Yap Honghor
2018-08-31 02:18:10 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the
blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the proper
usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Some more nonsense from the ass of aaa.
Blind denial.
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
As long as God is claimed to be omniscient then EVERYTHING
happens the way it does because God knew it would and that makes
it his responsibility.
FUCK you're stupid. Or a liar.
Not true. Your logic is the real stupid logic. A good university
professor often knows which student is going to fail in his class.
And the professor fails in his teaching....
That's why all should learn from God who never fails.
Your pixie is non-existent! Where did it learn to teach???
Post by aaa
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
According to you, that professor should take the blame for
knowingly allowing his student to fail. Is that what you are
telling me?
Being responsible, if he "often knows" as in your sentence above, it
merely tells us that the professor fails in his teaching profession,
not making effort to teach properly!!!!!
Bullshit. You can't blame a professor when it's the student who doesn't
want to learn. The professor doesn't have to force feed his students
with the knowledge they don't want to know.
Oh, so you slept when the lesson classes were on????
Post by aaa
Post by Yap Honghor
This is also why you failed because your professor never taught you
what is philosophy!!!
What the fuck is that? What are you talking about?
You sleep during lecture time, therefore you did not learn any philosophy!
aaa
2018-08-31 14:14:25 UTC
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Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
But if God made us capable of sin shouldn't it get the
blame.
Obviously not. Just because God gave you a gun doesn't mean God has to
be responsible for you shooting at yourself by holding the gun backward.
Even though an omniscient God knew how the gun would used?
That makes your imaginary God responsible for the things that guns are used for.
Actually, that is exactly why God wrote the manual for the proper
usage of guns. It's called the Holy Bible.
Some more nonsense from the ass of aaa.
Blind denial.
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
Post by aaa
As long as God is claimed to be omniscient then EVERYTHING
happens the way it does because God knew it would and that makes
it his responsibility.
FUCK you're stupid. Or a liar.
Not true. Your logic is the real stupid logic. A good university
professor often knows which student is going to fail in his class.
And the professor fails in his teaching....
That's why all should learn from God who never fails.
Your pixie is non-existent! Where did it learn to teach???
Blind denial. God is the source of all knowledge. God has been the
teacher since the beginning of time.
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Post by aaa
Post by Yap Honghor
Post by aaa
According to you, that professor should take the blame for
knowingly allowing his student to fail. Is that what you are
telling me?
Being responsible, if he "often knows" as in your sentence above, it
merely tells us that the professor fails in his teaching profession,
not making effort to teach properly!!!!!
Bullshit. You can't blame a professor when it's the student who doesn't
want to learn. The professor doesn't have to force feed his students
with the knowledge they don't want to know.
Oh, so you slept when the lesson classes were on????
Post by aaa
Post by Yap Honghor
This is also why you failed because your professor never taught you
what is philosophy!!!
What the fuck is that? What are you talking about?
You sleep during lecture time, therefore you did not learn any philosophy!
That's actually a good thing since real philosophy can only be learned
and understood in real life instead. In real life, we learn the truth
and realize God. It's what's called the philosophical awakening. Without
such philosophical awakening, one can never call oneself a philosopher.

Therefore, starting from Aristotle, all those philosophers are only
faking it.
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
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Greywolf
2018-08-28 02:39:17 UTC
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Post by Tim
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer
that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not
to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is omnipotent,
omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must have known that free
will would make some people evil, yet he let it happen. Therefore
your god can't be seen as benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is only a
human mistake.
_________

But there'd be no "sin" if the God Jesus chose NOT to create Evil itself. And since Scripture points irrefutably to Him having created it, that makes HIM a "sinner."

A human mistake should not be blamed on God.

Yes you can! The God Jesus created very Evil itself AND each individual with the complete knowledge that individual would end up being every bit as Evil as "God" created that individual.

You think God had no clue as to how the individual He's created would turn out?

Omniscience, my man. Omniscience. He sure as Hell knew it. But He created Evil individuals anyway. That was very Evil, very sinful of Him. Don't you think?

Hey, how's your rebuttal to Mark 8:31 coming along?

You *have* been working on a rational, sane, rebuttal. Haven't you?
aaa
2018-08-28 03:52:51 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by aaa
Post by Tim
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He
created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every
computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is
not to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is
omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must have
known that free will would make some people evil, yet he let it
happen. Therefore your god can't be seen as benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is only
a human mistake.
_________
But there'd be no "sin" if the God Jesus chose NOT to create Evil
itself. And since Scripture points irrefutably to Him having created
it, that makes HIM a "sinner."
No. God creates evil by being good. There is nothing wrong about that.
In fact, this is exactly why God is the only standard to determine what
is good and what is evil.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
A human mistake should not be blamed on God.
Yes you can! The God Jesus created very Evil itself AND each
individual with the complete knowledge that individual would end up
being every bit as Evil as "God" created that individual.
You think God had no clue as to how the individual He's created would turn out?
Omniscience, my man. Omniscience. He sure as Hell knew it. But He
created Evil individuals anyway. That was very Evil, very sinful of
Him. Don't you think?
Omniscience can't be responsible for people's own action and choice. In
fact, omniscience is why the believers of God are guaranteed success to
return to God.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Hey, how's your rebuttal to Mark 8:31 coming along?
You *have* been working on a rational, sane, rebuttal. Haven't you?
What's wrong with Mark 8:31?
--
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Greywolf
2018-08-29 02:37:22 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by aaa
Post by Tim
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He
created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every
computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is
not to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is
omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must have
known that free will would make some people evil, yet he let it
happen. Therefore your god can't be seen as benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is only
a human mistake.
_________
But there'd be no "sin" if the God Jesus chose NOT to create Evil
itself. And since Scripture points irrefutably to Him having created
it, that makes HIM a "sinner."
No. God creates evil by being good.
If Evil is so "good," why is the God Jesus going to punish Evil-doers with eternal damnation, Turd-for-brains?

If the God Jesus AND God the Father both think Evil to be Evil, then creating it is about as Evil as one can get. Wouldn't you say?

Don't act stupid. You couldn't possibly be that dense. (Well, at least I hope not. But who knows?)


There is nothing wrong about that.

Yes there is! "God" condemns those who are evil. But the God Jesus actually created it. So how is that not an evil act.

You can't be that retarded. You're play-acting.
Post by aaa
In fact, this is exactly why God is the only standard to determine what
is good and what is evil.
Stop and think about this for some time, turd-head. If "God" deems Evil to be Evil, then creating Evil itself is an Evil act. There's no escaping it. God says Evil is Evil. So He's sinned by creating it.

He doesn't get off the hook just because He's "God." He's pronounced Evil to be Evil and yet He created it when He didn't have to. That makes Him morally Evil.

And He's also designated Murder to be an Evil act. But He murdered every single infant baby on planet earth. So by using His OWN standard of judgement, God is an acknowledged murderer. He should send Himself to Hell right now!
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
A human mistake should not be blamed on God.
Yes you can! The God Jesus created very Evil itself AND each
individual with the complete knowledge that individual would end up
being every bit as Evil as "God" created that individual.
You think God had no clue as to how the individual He's created would turn out?
Omniscience, my man. Omniscience. He sure as Hell knew it. But He
created Evil individuals anyway. That was very Evil, very sinful of
Him. Don't you think?
Omniscience can't be responsible for people's own action and choice.
I wasn't talking about "people's" actions. I was talking about "God's" own action and choise. Don't try being cutesy.

In
Post by aaa
fact, omniscience is why the believers of God are guaranteed success to
return to God.
Humans aren't omniscient, you ninny. You're just talking utter nonsense again.

Damn, I thought you've been faking it. But maybe you are as incredibly nuts as you seem.
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Hey, how's your rebuttal to Mark 8:31 coming along?
You *have* been working on a rational, sane, rebuttal. Haven't you?
What's wrong with Mark 8:31?
Well, I've asked you to explain how it *doesn't* contradict Matthew 16:21 and the NIV's Luke 1:37.

And look at you. You've got no "out." You're trapped like a rat. So you pretend you have no idea as to what I'm referring to.

See, that the liar in you being *very* transparent.

You can't reconcile those passages. But have a go at it. If you can't or won't, I'll announce you've conceded that the do contradict one another. And you won't have a way of proving me wrong. Not attacking the issue in a forthright, sane, and rational way is the way to go, noodle-head.

But hey, be honest for a change and simply admit they contradict one another and move on.
aaa
2018-08-30 17:26:20 UTC
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Post by Greywolf
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by aaa
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 12:38:27 AM UTC-4, Amazing
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He
created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every
computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any
product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their
products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is
omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must
have known that free will would make some people evil, yet he
let it happen. Therefore your god can't be seen as
benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is
only a human mistake.
_________
But there'd be no "sin" if the God Jesus chose NOT to create
Evil itself. And since Scripture points irrefutably to Him having
created it, that makes HIM a "sinner."
No. God creates evil by being good.
If Evil is so "good,"
Bullshit.

snip
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Greywolf
2018-08-30 22:42:10 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Greywolf
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by aaa
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 12:38:27 AM UTC-4, Amazing
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every
computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any
product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their
products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is
omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He must
have known that free will would make some people evil, yet he
let it happen. Therefore your god can't be seen as
benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin is
only a human mistake.
_________
But there'd be no "sin" if the God Jesus chose NOT to create
Evil itself. And since Scripture points irrefutably to Him having
created it, that makes HIM a "sinner."
No. God creates evil by being good.
If Evil is so "good,"
Bullshit.
________

Oh, I see I've hit a nerve. Even crazy-ass you recognize what's so severely wrong with your logic.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, douche-bag.

"God creates evil by being good."?!!! How does *that* work, shit-for-brains?

If God has deemed Evil Evil, then actually creating it as Evil as Evil gets. If Evil God had NOT created Evil, there'd be no Evil. Simple logic, my man.

Any ten-year-old would readily see the logic involved.

Why can't you? You *that* mentally-ill?
Post by aaa
snip
Awwww. Did I hurt your precious feelings? I'm so sorry. But you're logic is as *illogical* as it gets. You're incredibly stupid on top of it.

Say Hi to your mental-ward nurse for me. Tell her she definitely earns her paycheck and more for having to put up with the likes of *you*.
aaa
2018-08-31 14:44:36 UTC
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Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by aaa
Post by Greywolf
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by aaa
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 12:38:27 AM UTC-4, Amazing
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good,
He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for
every computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any
product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their
products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is
omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He
must have known that free will would make some people
evil, yet he let it happen. Therefore your god can't be
seen as benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin
is only a human mistake.
_________
But there'd be no "sin" if the God Jesus chose NOT to create
Evil itself. And since Scripture points irrefutably to Him
having created it, that makes HIM a "sinner."
No. God creates evil by being good.
If Evil is so "good,"
Bullshit.
________
Oh, I see I've hit a nerve. Even crazy-ass you recognize what's so
severely wrong with your logic.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, douche-bag.
"God creates evil by being good."?!!! How does *that* work,
shit-for-brains?
If God has deemed Evil Evil, then actually creating it as Evil as
Evil gets. If Evil God had NOT created Evil, there'd be no Evil.
Simple logic, my man.
Wrong logic. Even if God hadn't created evil, people would still suffer
in death and misery. They just wouldn't know why. They would be like the
animals led to the slaughter having no idea what's happening to them.
Because God established good and evil, we can follow the good to stay
away from evil. We can finally consider ourselves as intelligent human
beings. This is why it's important for God to create good and evil.

Because God creates good and evil, we can be wise like God himself to
know the good and evil.
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Any ten-year-old would readily see the logic involved.
Why can't you? You *that* mentally-ill?
Post by aaa
snip
Awwww. Did I hurt your precious feelings? I'm so sorry. But you're
logic is as *illogical* as it gets. You're incredibly stupid on top
of it.
Say Hi to your mental-ward nurse for me. Tell her she definitely
earns her paycheck and more for having to put up with the likes of
*you*.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Greywolf
2018-08-31 18:11:22 UTC
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Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by aaa
Post by Greywolf
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by aaa
Post by Tim
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for
every computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any
product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their
products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god is
omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and benevolent. He
must have known that free will would make some people
evil, yet he let it happen. Therefore your god can't be
seen as benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in sin
is only a human mistake.
_________
But there'd be no "sin" if the God Jesus chose NOT to create
Evil itself. And since Scripture points irrefutably to Him
having created it, that makes HIM a "sinner."
No. God creates evil by being good.
If Evil is so "good,"
Bullshit.
________
Oh, I see I've hit a nerve. Even crazy-ass you recognizes what's so
severely wrong with your logic.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, douche-bag.
"God creates evil by being good."?!!! How does *that* work,
shit-for-brains?
If God has deemed Evil Evil, then actually creating it as Evil as
Evil gets. If Evil God had NOT created Evil, there'd be no Evil.
Simple logic, my man.
Wrong logic. Even if God hadn't created evil, people would still suffer
in death and misery.
"Wrong logic," my man. Misery, suffering, and death are all "by-products" of Evil. None of it existed prior to Eve being tricked into sin.

So you're clearly wrong.

They just wouldn't know why. They would be like the
Post by aaa
animals led to the slaughter having no idea what's happening to them.
No they wouldn't. Prior to Eve being tricked into sin, there was no misery, suffering, and death. They came into existence for man the moment Eve partook of the fruit she had been tricked into partaking.

You're wrong again.
Post by aaa
Because God established good and evil, we can follow the good to stay
away from evil.
Without Evil, there would only be Good. And since God wants man to "follow good," according to you, there was absolutely no need for God to malevolently create Evil. He was being Evil for Evil's sake. To see to it man would experience misery, suffering, and death. The Bastard!!

We can finally consider ourselves as intelligent human
Post by aaa
beings.
Who are faced with misery, suffering, and death because of God's Evilness in creating Evill

This is why it's important for God to create good and evil.

Don't try reverting to your stupid-ass "Evil makes man wise" nonsense. Adam & Eve did just fine without Evil God mucking everything up so evilly.
Post by aaa
Because God creates good and evil, we can be wise like God himself to
know the good and evil.
Having to endure misery, suffering, and death doesn't make man "wise." It makes him dead, you moron. If God had chosen to leave Eve alone, we, and the animal kingdom would be living idyllic lives. Just to know what misery, suffering, and death is, is no "gift." It's an evil "curse" upon man. And brought about by a very, very Evil God, you dummy.
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Any ten-year-old would readily see the logic involved.
Why can't you? You *that* mentally-ill?
Post by aaa
snip
Awwww. Did I hurt your precious feelings? I'm so sorry. But you're
logic is as *illogical* as it gets. You're incredibly stupid on top
of it.
Say Hi to your mental-ward nurse for me. Tell her she definitely
earns her paycheck and more for having to put up with the likes of
*you*.
aaa
2018-09-01 02:20:31 UTC
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Post by Greywolf
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Post by aaa
Post by Greywolf
Post by aaa
On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 7:26:41 PM UTC-5, aaa
Post by aaa
On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 12:38:27 AM UTC-4,
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating
good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for
every computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of
any product is not to be blamed for the abuse of
their products.
Christians believe that god is the creator, that god
is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, and
benevolent. He must have known that free will would
make some people evil, yet he let it happen.
Therefore your god can't be seen as benevolent.
You should learn some logic.
According to logic, the free will to sin and suffer in
sin is only a human mistake.
_________
But there'd be no "sin" if the God Jesus chose NOT to
create Evil itself. And since Scripture points
irrefutably to Him having created it, that makes HIM a
"sinner."
No. God creates evil by being good.
If Evil is so "good,"
Bullshit.
________
Oh, I see I've hit a nerve. Even crazy-ass you recognizes what's
so severely wrong with your logic.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, douche-bag.
"God creates evil by being good."?!!! How does *that* work,
shit-for-brains?
If God has deemed Evil Evil, then actually creating it as Evil
as Evil gets. If Evil God had NOT created Evil, there'd be no
Evil. Simple logic, my man.
Wrong logic. Even if God hadn't created evil, people would still
suffer in death and misery.
"Wrong logic," my man. Misery, suffering, and death are all
"by-products" of Evil. None of it existed prior to Eve being tricked
into sin.
Not true. Evil wasn't known to exist before human sinned. That doesn't
mean evil didn't exist before human sinned. God must have created good
and evil before the universe came into existence. It is why it was
possible for God to make the world good in the creation. If good and
evil were never created until human sinned, then the world couldn't be
created good by God.
Post by Greywolf
So you're clearly wrong.
They just wouldn't know why. They would be like the
Post by aaa
animals led to the slaughter having no idea what's happening to them.
No they wouldn't. Prior to Eve being tricked into sin, there was no
misery, suffering, and death. They came into existence for man the
moment Eve partook of the fruit she had been tricked into partaking.
Before human sinned, there was no cause of evil. That's why no one
suffered evil. That doesn't mean that evil hadn't been created.
Post by Greywolf
You're wrong again.
Post by aaa
Because God established good and evil, we can follow the good to
stay away from evil.
Without Evil, there would only be Good. And since God wants man to
"follow good," according to you, there was absolutely no need for God
to malevolently create Evil. He was being Evil for Evil's sake. To
see to it man would experience misery, suffering, and death. The
Bastard!!
By creating the world to be good, the existence of evil had already been
implied. There was only no cause of evil, but there was nothing that
kept evil from happening. It is why it was possible for humanity to fall
into evil.
Post by Greywolf
We can finally consider ourselves as intelligent human
Post by aaa
beings.
Who are faced with misery, suffering, and death because of God's Evilness in creating Evill
No, the cause of human suffering is always the human sin. It has nothing
to do with God creating evil. God creates evil by being good, and God
creates evil by making the world good. There is nothing wrong about that.
Post by Greywolf
This is why it's important for God to create good and evil.
Don't try reverting to your stupid-ass "Evil makes man wise"
nonsense. Adam & Eve did just fine without Evil God mucking
everything up so evilly.
Wisdom is the ability to know good and evil. That is just a simple fact.
Post by Greywolf
Post by aaa
Because God creates good and evil, we can be wise like God himself
to know the good and evil.
Having to endure misery, suffering, and death doesn't make man
"wise." It makes him dead, you moron. If God had chosen to leave Eve
alone, we, and the animal kingdom would be living idyllic lives. Just
to know what misery, suffering, and death is, is no "gift." It's an
evil "curse" upon man. And brought about by a very, very Evil God,
you dummy.
Human misery is the result of sin. It has nothing to do with God or
God's creating evil by being good and by making the world good.
Post by Greywolf
Post by aaa
Post by Cloud Hobbit
Any ten-year-old would readily see the logic involved.
Why can't you? You *that* mentally-ill?
Post by aaa
snip
Awwww. Did I hurt your precious feelings? I'm so sorry. But
you're logic is as *illogical* as it gets. You're incredibly
stupid on top of it.
Say Hi to your mental-ward nurse for me. Tell her she definitely
earns her paycheck and more for having to put up with the likes
of *you*.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Andrew
2018-08-28 07:40:35 UTC
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Post by Greywolf
You think God had no clue as to how the individual He's created would turn out?
Omniscience, my man. Omniscience. He sure as Hell knew it. But He created Evil
individuals anyway. That was very Evil, very sinful of Him. Don't you think?
Hey, how's your rebuttal to Mark 8:31 coming along?
Let's look at it.

"And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must
suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and by
the chief priests and scribes and be killed and after three
days rise again." ~ Mark 8:31

When did the "suffer many things" begin? It began Thursday night.

"And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat
this Passover with you before I suffer." ~ Luke 22:15<-- Thursday

"And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane:
and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray." <-- Thursday
~ Mark 14:32

"And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his
sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down <--Thursday
to the ground." ~ Luke 22:44

This was suffering in the extreme to the point of sweating
great drops of blood. Because He was bearing the sins of <--Thursday
all humanity.

When was the third day? Those who were there at the time
said that Sunday was the third day. That's when He arose
from the dead.

"today is the third day." Sunday
~ Luke 24:21




Case closed.



But wait!

Think about it. Since He arose exactly like He said, then we
may be sure that He will return exactly like He said. Doncha
think? Oh yes!
Greywolf
2018-08-29 03:03:56 UTC
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Post by Greywolf
You think God had no clue as to how the individual He's created would turn out?
Omniscience, my man. Omniscience. He sure as Hell knew it. But He created Evil
individuals anyway. That was very Evil, very sinful of Him. Don't you think?
Hey, how's your rebuttal to Mark 8:31 coming along?
Let's look at it.
"And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must
suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and by
the chief priests and scribes and be killed and after three
days rise again." ~ Mark 8:31
When did the "suffer many things" begin? It began Thursday night.
He was "rejected by the elders and by the chief priests and scribes" long before the previous Thursday.
Post by Andrew
"And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat
this Passover with you before I suffer." ~ Luke 22:15<-- Thursday
and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray." <-- Thursday
~ Mark 14:32
"And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his
sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down <--Thursday
to the ground." ~ Luke 22:44
This was suffering in the extreme to the point of sweating
great drops of blood. Because He was bearing the sins of <--Thursday
all humanity.
*Where* does it say the sweating of blood was due to His "bearing of the sins of all humanity"? If anything it was due to the stress of His knowledge as to what was about to happen to Him--if *any* of it is to be believed.
Post by Andrew
When was the third day?
Glad you asked! Mark 8:31/9:31/Matthew 27:63 say three days AFTER He's killed. That would make that day . . . . wait, let me get my trusty calendar out here . . . bear with me . . . Oh, yeah, that would make his Resurrection take place on MONDAY.

Glad I had my trusty calendar to make sure I got the day right. What day do *you* get when computing from His death on Friday? I sure hope you don't get "Sunday," because that's only the SECOND day after His death, not the THIRD.


Those who were there at the time
Post by Andrew
said that Sunday was the third day. That's when He arose
from the dead.
"today is the third day." Sunday
~ Luke 24:21
Whoa, Whoa, Whoa! Stop the Bus, Gertrude. Tie up the horses. Andrew here is completely ignoring Mark 8:31, 9:31 and Matthew 27:63!

You aren't trying to pull a fast one, are you Andrew?

Mark 8:31 points to a MONDAY resurrection. And if you've read my series, you'll have found that the resurrection--if it happened at all--would had to have occurred on SATURDAY! So you're screwed on TWO fronts.

So you see, Luke 24:21 is not only contradicted by Mark 8:31, but also my findings pointing to a Saturday resurrection--if it happened at all.

Just give it up, Andrew. Not only do you worship a diabolically evil God, but now stand hopelessly refuted by Mark 8:31.

You've lost the game, Andrew. You've simply lost. Take it like a man and move on to better things. Hopelessly clinging to your patently false religious beliefs is a sure sign of psychological cowardice. Especially because you've been provided with the irrefutable evidence they're false.

Grow up, Andrew. There's a whole, big ole' world to explore other concepts in. Try believing in something that's actually true this time.
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Case closed.
But wait!
Think about it. Since He arose exactly like He said, then we
may be sure that He will return exactly like He said. Doncha
think? Oh yes!
Yap Honghor
2018-08-26 09:35:35 UTC
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The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
So, the definition of a creator is not what you think?
It is incapable to create????????
Post by Amazing Answers
This argument is flawed.
What flaw?
Post by Amazing Answers
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer that was used for hacking?
Your example is flawed...HP claims their computer is a tool. They do not say it cannot be used for hacking.
Post by Amazing Answers
No.
Yes, the police will confiscate the computer!
Post by Amazing Answers
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
You are a donkey, not knowing how to blame your creator!!!!!!!!!
JWS
2018-08-26 15:10:00 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
So where did the abusers come from?
Street
2018-08-26 15:16:56 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer that
was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not to be
blamed for the abuse of their products.
Does HP have the power to prevent every hacker's hacking from screwing
anything up?
m***@gmail.com
2018-09-02 05:10:10 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer that
was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not to be
blamed for the abuse of their products.
My first computer was a Hewlett Packard and I was thrilled to replace it.
It was a disaster.
Post by Street
Does HP have the power to prevent every hacker's hacking from screwing
anything up?
I didn't know they still made computers.
Don Martin
2018-09-02 16:03:45 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer that
was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not to be
blamed for the abuse of their products.
My first computer was a Hewlett Packard and I was thrilled to replace it.
It was a disaster.
Post by Street
Does HP have the power to prevent every hacker's hacking from screwing
anything up?
I didn't know they still made computers.
Unfortunately, they do buy software companies. My office's document
management system, TRIM, was developed by Australian entrepreneurs,
Tower Software. They were bought out by HP about 4 years ago, and
that company busied itself making improvements, which mostly consisted
of inserting "HP" at every place possible in the software and its
documentation. It still mostly works, so long as you stick to the
parts made by Tower, but now it is not unusual for it to "stop
working" 2-3 times a day, something it never did before. It now also
has the nasty habit of checking back in a document one has checked out
and is working on, and doing so while still being worked on, so you
have to do the workaround of saving the thing offline, and dragging
and dropping it back into the dataset. Methinks HP is slowly sinking
and sucking all sorts of formerly good stuff down with it..
--
aa #2278 Never mind "proof." Where is your evidence?
BAAWA Chief Assistant to the Assistant Chief Heckler
Fidei defensor (Hon. Antipodean)
Je pense, donc je suis Charlie.
V. teuthis
2018-08-26 16:13:57 UTC
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The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Is Hewlett Packard omnipotent and omniscient?

If so, then yes, they are responsible for every incident of hacking.

Along with every other evil thing that happens in this world.

Did God, before creating Lucifer, foresee that he was going to go off the
rails, become Satan, and tempt countless billions to damnation?

Or was god as limited as, say, Hewlett Packard is?

V
Post by Amazing Answers
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
Greywolf
2018-08-28 02:29:19 UTC
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The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer that was used for hacking?
No.
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is not to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
___________

You freakin' low-life. You scum-bag.

Okay, it's your turn now.

Explain *precisely* what you mean by "free will." Is it the ability to choose between (A) Good, or (B) Evil?

If not, explain what it is. And no using phrases that are, in reality, a substitute for the notion of "Evil." It's either Good or Evil, Bub.

And since you've invoked the concept of Free Will, I'll just point out that the God Jesus used HIS "Free Will" when he decided to malevolently create very Evil itself. Didn't He?

This has been pointed out to you any number of times already. So what's wrong with you? You too stupid to grasp something any 10-year-old would have no problem whatever comprehending?

Is your comprehension level lower than that of a 10-year-old? Or are you so religiously-diseased you can't see straight any more? In any event, address the above. Let's see what you come up with.
Davej
2018-08-28 17:14:37 UTC
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The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Who created Malaria? Ebola? Smallpox? Leprosy? Plague? Anthrax?

They didn't create themselves.
aaa
2018-08-29 02:24:09 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Who created Malaria? Ebola? Smallpox? Leprosy? Plague? Anthrax?
They didn't create themselves.
Yes. They are only the results of human sin. As diseases, they have
nothing to do with God.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Davej
2018-08-31 01:24:02 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Who created Malaria? Ebola? Smallpox? Leprosy? Plague? Anthrax?
They didn't create themselves.
Yes. They are only the results of human sin. As diseases, they have
nothing to do with God.
Bullshit. How exactly does "human sin" create living organisms?
aaa
2018-09-01 16:41:24 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Who created Malaria? Ebola? Smallpox? Leprosy? Plague? Anthrax?
They didn't create themselves.
Yes. They are only the results of human sin. As diseases, they have
nothing to do with God.
Bullshit. How exactly does "human sin" create living organisms?
The human sin doesn't create living organisms. It only turns living
organisms against each other. When humans sin against God, all living
organisms would turn against humans to avenge for God.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Peter Pan
2018-09-02 17:02:19 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Who created Malaria? Ebola? Smallpox? Leprosy? Plague? Anthrax?
They didn't create themselves.
Yes. They are only the results of human sin. As diseases, they have
nothing to do with God.
Bullshit. How exactly does "human sin" create living organisms?
The human sin doesn't create living organisms. It only turns living
organisms against each other. When humans sin against God, all living
organisms would turn against humans to avenge for God.
How do the parasitic organisms know which human has
sinned, and what they did?

Do microbes attack rapists and murderers more virulently
than they go after men who only lust after women in their
hearts?
aaa
2018-09-03 00:08:30 UTC
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Post by Davej
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Who created Malaria? Ebola? Smallpox? Leprosy? Plague? Anthrax?
They didn't create themselves.
Yes. They are only the results of human sin. As diseases, they have
nothing to do with God.
Bullshit. How exactly does "human sin" create living organisms?
The human sin doesn't create living organisms. It only turns living
organisms against each other. When humans sin against God, all living
organisms would turn against humans to avenge for God.
How do the parasitic organisms know which human has
sinned, and what they did?
Do microbes attack rapists and murderers more virulently
than they go after men who only lust after women in their
hearts?
The evil doers would weaken their own natural immune systems to open
themselves to any possible attack imaginable. It's why doctors keep
finding new diseases all the time.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Mitchell Holman
2018-09-03 01:27:15 UTC
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Post by Davej
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Who created Malaria? Ebola? Smallpox? Leprosy? Plague? Anthrax?
They didn't create themselves.
Yes. They are only the results of human sin. As diseases, they
have nothing to do with God.
Bullshit. How exactly does "human sin" create living organisms?
The human sin doesn't create living organisms. It only turns living
organisms against each other. When humans sin against God, all
living organisms would turn against humans to avenge for God.
How do the parasitic organisms know which human has
sinned, and what they did?
Do microbes attack rapists and murderers more virulently
than they go after men who only lust after women in their
hearts?
The evil doers would weaken their own natural immune systems to open
themselves to any possible attack imaginable. It's why doctors keep
finding new diseases all the time.
Really?

When was the last time doctors
"found a new disease"?
aaa
2018-09-03 17:10:04 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Who created Malaria? Ebola? Smallpox? Leprosy? Plague? Anthrax?
They didn't create themselves.
Yes. They are only the results of human sin. As diseases, they
have nothing to do with God.
Bullshit. How exactly does "human sin" create living organisms?
The human sin doesn't create living organisms. It only turns living
organisms against each other. When humans sin against God, all
living organisms would turn against humans to avenge for God.
How do the parasitic organisms know which human has
sinned, and what they did?
Do microbes attack rapists and murderers more virulently
than they go after men who only lust after women in their
hearts?
The evil doers would weaken their own natural immune systems to open
themselves to any possible attack imaginable. It's why doctors keep
finding new diseases all the time.
Really?
When was the last time doctors
"found a new disease"?
Why asking me? Why don't you google it yourself?
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Mitchell Holman
2018-09-04 02:15:15 UTC
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Post by Davej
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Who created Malaria? Ebola? Smallpox? Leprosy? Plague? Anthrax?
They didn't create themselves.
Yes. They are only the results of human sin. As diseases, they
have nothing to do with God.
Bullshit. How exactly does "human sin" create living organisms?
The human sin doesn't create living organisms. It only turns living
organisms against each other. When humans sin against God, all
living organisms would turn against humans to avenge for God.
How do the parasitic organisms know which human has
sinned, and what they did?
Do microbes attack rapists and murderers more virulently
than they go after men who only lust after women in their
hearts?
The evil doers would weaken their own natural immune systems to open
themselves to any possible attack imaginable. It's why doctors keep
finding new diseases all the time.
Really?
When was the last time doctors
"found a new disease"?
Why asking me? Why don't you google it yourself?
This is your claim, that means
YOU need to post the proof.
aaa
2018-09-04 16:27:35 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Who created Malaria? Ebola? Smallpox? Leprosy? Plague? Anthrax?
They didn't create themselves.
Yes. They are only the results of human sin. As diseases, they
have nothing to do with God.
Bullshit. How exactly does "human sin" create living organisms?
The human sin doesn't create living organisms. It only turns living
organisms against each other. When humans sin against God, all
living organisms would turn against humans to avenge for God.
How do the parasitic organisms know which human has
sinned, and what they did?
Do microbes attack rapists and murderers more virulently
than they go after men who only lust after women in their
hearts?
The evil doers would weaken their own natural immune systems to open
themselves to any possible attack imaginable. It's why doctors keep
finding new diseases all the time.
Really?
When was the last time doctors
"found a new disease"?
Why asking me? Why don't you google it yourself?
This is your claim, that means
YOU need to post the proof.
It should be public information. I'm sure you can find it yourself. You
are welcome to prove me wrong.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
JWS
2018-09-04 19:53:38 UTC
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On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 11:38:27 PM UTC-5, Amazing
Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He
created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Who created Malaria? Ebola? Smallpox? Leprosy? Plague? Anthrax?
They didn't create themselves.
Yes. They are only the results of human sin. As diseases, they
have nothing to do with God.
Bullshit. How exactly does "human sin" create living organisms?
The human sin doesn't create living organisms. It only turns living
organisms against each other. When humans sin against God, all
living organisms would turn against humans to avenge for God.
How do the parasitic organisms know which human has
sinned, and what they did?
Do microbes attack rapists and murderers more virulently
than they go after men who only lust after women in their
hearts?
The evil doers would weaken their own natural immune systems to open
themselves to any possible attack imaginable. It's why doctors keep
finding new diseases all the time.
Really?
When was the last time doctors
"found a new disease"?
Why asking me? Why don't you google it yourself?
This is your claim, that means
YOU need to post the proof.
It should be public information. I'm sure you can find it yourself. You
are welcome to prove me wrong.
https://www.uptodate.com/contents/whats-new-in-infectious-diseases#!
Post by aaa
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Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.
Robert Carnegie
2018-09-03 20:55:36 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
Who created Malaria? Ebola? Smallpox? Leprosy? Plague? Anthrax?
They didn't create themselves.
Yes. They are only the results of human sin. As diseases, they
have nothing to do with God.
Bullshit. How exactly does "human sin" create living organisms?
The human sin doesn't create living organisms. It only turns living
organisms against each other. When humans sin against God, all
living organisms would turn against humans to avenge for God.
How do the parasitic organisms know which human has
sinned, and what they did?
Do microbes attack rapists and murderers more virulently
than they go after men who only lust after women in their
hearts?
The evil doers would weaken their own natural immune systems to open
themselves to any possible attack imaginable. It's why doctors keep
finding new diseases all the time.
Really?
When was the last time doctors
"found a new disease"?
You've been talking to one. (No, I don't mean
that aaa is a doctor. But you got that, right?)
Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
2018-08-30 20:57:41 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
If your god created everything and knows everything, then he has
only himself to blame for Lucifer's transgressions. And if your
god is truly all-powerful, then why should he feel so threatened
by Lucifer that he needs to punish her or anyone?

By the way, I just posted this argument on Twitter yesterday:
https://twitter.com/FidemTurbare/status/1034844776107978753
Post by Amazing Answers
This argument is flawed.
Indeed, for starters it's sexist because it implicitly presumes
that a male deity is the creator of everything good and evil.

On a more serious note, however, the whole argument depends on
the existence of a [male] deity. Before the rest of the argument
can be considered logically and rationally, it is necessary to
establish that the deity actually exists, and this is the missing
premise in all of this.
Post by Amazing Answers
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer
that was used for hacking?
No.
Correct. To blame HP for that would be to commit a "guilt by
association" logical fallacy, or a "false equivocation" logical
fallacy, as two straight-forward examples.
Post by Amazing Answers
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is
not to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
Christopher Hitchens spoke elegantly about free will a while ago:

"If we have free will, by definition we cannot be granted it. We
can't be given it. My [-audio-recording-distorted-] paradox states
that 'Of course we have free will, we have no choice.' To say that
it's a gift is to negate the whole concept of free will on its
face. So, if that isn't self-evident, I can't think of anything
that would meet the definition of being self-evident."
-- Christopher Hitchens

Source: https://www.atheistfrontier.com/people/christopher-hitchens/quotations.pl
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Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
http://www.atheistgoddess.com/
"It might be better to say that empathy is not a religious concept
but a psychological term, while 'free will' and sin are dim witted
religious explanations."
-- Greg Cunningham (August 5, 2013)
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2018-08-30 21:02:31 UTC
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Post by Amazing Answers
The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
If your god created everything and knows everything, then he has
only himself to blame for Lucifer's transgressions. And if your
god is truly all-powerful, then why should he feel so threatened
by Lucifer that he needs to punish her or anyone?
https://twitter.com/FidemTurbare/status/1034844776107978753
Post by Amazing Answers
This argument is flawed.
Indeed, for starters it's sexist because it implicitly presumes
that a male deity is the creator of everything good and evil.
On a more serious note, however, the whole argument depends on
the existence of a [male] deity. Before the rest of the argument
can be considered logically and rationally, it is necessary to
establish that the deity actually exists, and this is the missing
premise in all of this.
Post by Amazing Answers
Since HP makes computers are they to be blamed for every computer
that was used for hacking?
No.
Correct. To blame HP for that would be to commit a "guilt by
association" logical fallacy, or a "false equivocation" logical
fallacy, as two straight-forward examples.
Post by Amazing Answers
Thus, where free will is involved the creator of any product is
not to be blamed for the abuse of their products.
"If i have free will, by definition i cannot be granted it. i
can't be given it. My [-audio-recording-distorted-] paradox states
that 'Of course i have free will, i have no choice.' To say that
it's a gift is to negate the whole concept of free will on its
face. So, if that isn't self-evident, I can't think of anything
that would meet the definition of being self-evident."
-- Christopher Hitchens
Source: https://www.atheistfrontier.com/people/christopher-hitchens/quotations.pl
who's , " we "
Greywolf
2018-08-31 19:58:24 UTC
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The argument goes that God by virtue of creating good, He created evil.
This argument is flawed.
____

Oh, put a lid on it.

But Mitchell Holman asks a very good question in this thread. In a response to aaa, Holman asks:

"How did Judas die?"

Think about it. "God" created Judas for the express purpose of betraying Jesus and so lead to the Crucifixion. Judas was "wired" from the point of creation to do what he did.

And what was his "reward" for doing *precisely* what he was created to do?

Why, I'll let Jesus tell you:

The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR HIM IF HE HAD NOT BEEN BORN." (see Matthew 26:24 and Mark 14:21)

Imagine that! By the very God who created Judas to do his "thing"!

And, Oh, what eternal suffering poor Judas is to suffer. And all because "God" *had* to have a stooge betray Him in order for Him to *pretend* to die on the cross. Tsk. Tsk.

See here: https://theatheistobserver.com/2018/06/04/did-jesus-really-die-on-the-cross/

And you don't think that was Evil personified?
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