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Fifth Workshop on Controlled Natural Language (CNL 2016)

25-27 July 2016 in Aberdeen, Scotland

This workshop on Controlled Natural Language (CNL) has a broad
scope and embraces all approaches that are based on natural language and apply
restrictions on vocabulary, grammar, and/or semantics. This includes (but is
certainly not limited to) approaches that have been called simplified language,
plain language, formalized language, processable language, fragments of
language, phraseologies, conceptual authoring, language generation, and guided
natural language interfaces.

Some CNLs are designed to improve communication among humans, especially for
non-native speakers of the respective natural language. In other cases, the
restrictions on the language are supposed to make it easier for computers to
analyze such texts in order to improve computer-aided, semi-automatic, or
automatic translations into other languages. A third group of CNL has the goal
to enable reliable automated reasoning and formal knowledge representation from
seemingly natural texts. All these types of CNL are covered by this workshop.

Important Dates

- REVISED EXTENDED SUBMISSION DEADLINE: 15 April 2016
- Notification of acceptance: 1 May 2016
- Deadline for receipt of revised papers: 13 May 2016
- Deadline for submission to Springer: 20 May 2016
- Registration deadline: 11 July 2016
- Posters/demos deadline: 11 July 2016
- Workshop: 25-27 July 2016

Sponsors

Contact Adam Wyner, ***@abdn.ac.uk, if you want to become a sponsor.

Topics

Possible topics for CNL 2016 include:

- CNL for knowledge representation
- CNL for query interfaces
- CNL for specifications
- CNL for business rules
- CNL for dialogue systems
- CNL for machine translation
- CNL for improved understandability of texts
- CNL for natural language generation
- design of CNLs
- CNL applications
- CNL evaluation
- usability and acceptance of CNL
- CNL grammars and lexica
- multilingual CNLs
- reasoning in CNL
- spoken CNL
- CNL in the context of the Semantic Web and Linked Open Data
- CNL in the government
- CNL in industry
- CNL use cases
- theoretical properties of CNL

Invited Speakers

Silvie Spreeuwenberg, LibRT
Philipp Cimiano, University of Bielefeld
Tim Finin, University of Maryland

Submissions and Proceedings

We invite researchers to submit papers with novel contributions in the area of CNL. These research papers should be formatted according to the Springer LNCS (https://www.springer.com/computer/lncs?SGWID=0-164-6-793341-0) format and should not exceed 10 pages.

Submit your paper via Easychair: https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=cnl2016

The proceedings of the workshop will appear in Springer's LNCS/LNAI series and will be indexed in all major citation databases including ISI Web of Science and Scopus.

Website:

http://www.sigcnl.org/cnl2016.html

Social Media:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/sig_cnl

Google Drive (read only): https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bx9w-S4aWKt3azIxRnJkS3V2WDg&usp=sharing

Organization Committee

- Adam Wyner (University of Aberdeen, Scotland; ***@abdn.ac.uk)
- Brian Davis (***@NUI Galway, Ireland; ***@insight-centre.org)
- Gordon Pace (University of Malta, Malta; ***@um.edu.mt)

Program Committee

Krasimir Angelov (Chalmers University, Sweden)
Paul Buitelaar (***@NUI Galway, formerly DERI, Ireland)
Rogan Creswick (Galois, USA)
Brian Davis (***@NUI Galway, formerly DERI, Ireland)
Ronald Denaux (iSOCO, Spain)
Ramona Enache (Chalmers University, Sweden)
Esra Erdem (Sabanci University, Turkey)
Sebastien Ferre (University Rennes 1, France)
Norbert E. Fuchs (University of Zurich, Switzerland)
Normunds Gruzitis (University of Latvia)
Kaarel Kaljurand (Nuance Communications, Austria)
Peter Koepke (University of Bonn, Germany)
Tobias Kuhn (ETH Zurich, Switzerland)
Adegboyega Ojo (***@NUI Galway, formerly DERI, Ireland)
Gordon Pace (University of Malta)
Laurette Pretorius (University of South Africa)
Aarne Ranta (University of Gothenburg, Sweden)
Mike Rosner (University of Malta)
Uta Schwertel (imc, Germany)
Rolf Schwitter (Macquarie University, Australia)
Geoff Sutcliffe (University of Miami, USA)
Irina Temnikova (Qatar Computing Research Institute, Qatar)
Camilo Thorne (Free University of Bozen-Bolzano, Italy)
Jeroen Van Grondelle (HU University of Applied Sciences Utrecht, Netherlands)
Adam Wyner (University of Aberdeen, UK)

Previous Events

There were four previous events in the same series:

- CNL 2009 in Marettimo, Italy. http://attempto.ifi.uzh.ch/site/cnl2009/
- CNL 2010 in Marettimo, Italy. http://staff.um.edu.mt/mros1/cnl2010/index.html
- CNL 2012 in Zurich, Switzerland. http://attempto.ifi.uzh.ch/site/cnl2012/
- CNL 2014 in Galway, Ireland. http://attempto.ifi.uzh.ch/site/cnl2014/


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Franz Gnaedinger
2016-03-13 08:57:24 UTC
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Post by k***@gmail.com
Fifth Workshop on Controlled Natural Language (CNL 2016)
25-27 July 2016 in Aberdeen, Scotland
This workshop on Controlled Natural Language (CNL) has a broad
scope and embraces all approaches that are based on natural language and apply
restrictions on vocabulary, grammar, and/or semantics. This includes (but is
certainly not limited to) approaches that have been called simplified language,
plain language, formalized language, processable language, fragments of
language, phraseologies, conceptual authoring, language generation, and guided
natural language interfaces.
Thank you for the information. I for one submit a paper only when invited
personally. Otherwise I have a lot of work, then wait a long time, and
finally get an embarassed 'very interesting but unfortunately'.

However, I can offer a challenge for the participants of the conference,
a Magdalenian test case

deus thoes / Zeus vs deus Zeus / theos

Magdalenian is my hypothetical lingua franca of shamans and shamanesses
in the last Ice Age in Eurasia, remembered and well preserved in standing
formulae, most often double formulae.

DhAG meaning able, good in the sense of able, is the most and most varied
Magdalenian word, accounting for Greek theos and Latin deus (incompatible
in PIE, well compatible in Magdalenian). Consider the supreme Celtic god
Dagda, the good god in the sense of the able god (Barry Cunliffe) whose
name I derive from the emphatic doubling DhAG DhAG able able.

TYR names the one who overcomes in the double sense of rule and give,
accounting for emphatic Middle Helladic Sseyr (Phaistos Disc, Derk
Ohlenroth) Doric Sseus (Wilhelm Larfeld) Homeric Zeus.

Close derivatives of TYR abound in Central Asia, which made me locate
the first Indo-European homeland on the banks of the Amu Darya, centered
in the triangle of Termez and Kunduz and Kurgan T'upe (second IE homeland
in the Uralic steppes east of the Rha Volga, third IE homeland in the
Pontic steppes west of the Rha Volga).

You might hand out my posting to the participants in the conference,
who then may roll on the floor laughing, or discuss with me in sci.lang
(Wild Wild West of the World Wide Web) or vie e-mail (where I can
guarantee a polite conversation).

Sincerely, Franz Gnaedinger, frgn (at) bluemail.ch
Yusuf B Gursey
2016-03-13 16:14:30 UTC
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On Sunday, March 13, 2016 at 10:57:31 AM UTC+2, Franz Gnaedinger wrote:

This definitely can't be accepted intğ the workshop.
Post by Franz Gnaedinger
Post by k***@gmail.com
Fifth Workshop on Controlled Natural Language (CNL 2016)
25-27 July 2016 in Aberdeen, Scotland
This workshop on Controlled Natural Language (CNL) has a broad
scope and embraces all approaches that are based on natural language and apply
restrictions on vocabulary, grammar, and/or semantics. This includes (but is
certainly not limited to) approaches that have been called simplified language,
plain language, formalized language, processable language, fragments of
language, phraseologies, conceptual authoring, language generation, and guided
natural language interfaces.
Thank you for the information. I for one submit a paper only when invited
personally. Otherwise I have a lot of work, then wait a long time, and
finally get an embarassed 'very interesting but unfortunately'.
However, I can offer a challenge for the participants of the conference,
a Magdalenian test case
deus thoes / Zeus vs deus Zeus / theos
Magdalenian is my hypothetical lingua franca of shamans and shamanesses
in the last Ice Age in Eurasia, remembered and well preserved in standing
formulae, most often double formulae.
DhAG meaning able, good in the sense of able, is the most and most varied
Magdalenian word, accounting for Greek theos and Latin deus (incompatible
in PIE, well compatible in Magdalenian). Consider the supreme Celtic god
Dagda, the good god in the sense of the able god (Barry Cunliffe) whose
name I derive from the emphatic doubling DhAG DhAG able able.
TYR names the one who overcomes in the double sense of rule and give,
accounting for emphatic Middle Helladic Sseyr (Phaistos Disc, Derk
Ohlenroth) Doric Sseus (Wilhelm Larfeld) Homeric Zeus.
Close derivatives of TYR abound in Central Asia, which made me locate
the first Indo-European homeland on the banks of the Amu Darya, centered
in the triangle of Termez and Kunduz and Kurgan T'upe (second IE homeland
in the Uralic steppes east of the Rha Volga, third IE homeland in the
Pontic steppes west of the Rha Volga).
You might hand out my posting to the participants in the conference,
who then may roll on the floor laughing, or discuss with me in sci.lang
(Wild Wild West of the World Wide Web) or vie e-mail (where I can
guarantee a polite conversation).
Sincerely, Franz Gnaedinger, frgn (at) bluemail.ch
Mścisław Wojna-Bojewski
2016-03-13 17:04:41 UTC
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Post by Yusuf B Gursey
This definitely can't be accepted intğ the workshop.
Franz's attention whoring is definitely getting worse. Even in the purely hypothetical situation that his Magdalenian had some scientific relevance, it could not be related to controlled natural language in any way or manner.
Franz Gnaedinger
2016-03-14 07:21:18 UTC
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Post by Franz Gnaedinger
Thank you for the information. I for one submit a paper only when invited
personally. Otherwise I have a lot of work, then wait a long time, and
finally get an embarassed 'very interesting but unfortunately'.
However, I can offer a challenge for the participants of the conference,
a Magdalenian test case
deus thoes / Zeus vs deus Zeus / theos
Magdalenian is my hypothetical lingua franca of shamans and shamanesses
in the last Ice Age in Eurasia, remembered and well preserved in standing
formulae, most often double formulae.
DhAG meaning able, good in the sense of able, is the most and most varied
Magdalenian word, accounting for Greek theos and Latin deus (incompatible
in PIE, well compatible in Magdalenian). Consider the supreme Celtic god
Dagda, the good god in the sense of the able god (Barry Cunliffe) whose
name I derive from the emphatic doubling DhAG DhAG able able.
TYR names the one who overcomes in the double sense of rule and give,
accounting for emphatic Middle Helladic Sseyr (Phaistos Disc, Derk
Ohlenroth) Doric Sseus (Wilhelm Larfeld) Homeric Zeus.
Close derivatives of TYR abound in Central Asia, which made me locate
the first Indo-European homeland on the banks of the Amu Darya, centered
in the triangle of Termez and Kunduz and Kurgan T'upe (second IE homeland
in the Uralic steppes east of the Rha Volga, third IE homeland in the
Pontic steppes west of the Rha Volga).
You might hand out my posting to the participants in the conference,
who then may roll on the floor laughing, or discuss with me in sci.lang
(Wild Wild West of the World Wide Web) or vie e-mail (where I can
guarantee a polite conversation).
Sincerely, Franz Gnaedinger, frgn (at) bluemail.ch
What did I say about sci.lang being the Wild Wild West of the World Wide Web?
They can't argue on the scientific level, always only on a meta-level.
Franz Gnaedinger
2016-03-19 08:19:42 UTC
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Lino Guzella, president of the ETH Zurich, gave an interesting interview
on Swiss Radio SRF1 saying students should learn how to think on their own
instead of stuffing their head with knowledge that can be retrieved online.
A man after my own heart. Well, if the participants in the conference get
hold of the previous Magdalenian test case (deus theos / Zeus vs deus Zeus
/ theos) they are welcome to consider a related one: words and compounds
naming the horse, Indo-European animal par excellence - one of my strongest
Magdalenian test cases, rendered in the briefst possible form.

the horse, the horse, the horse (the horse, the horse)

CA LAB, sky CA cold LAB, named the winter sun horse of Lascaux, gallop
and German Klepper. CA BEL, sky CA warm BEL, named the spring sun horse,
in a longer form CA BEL IAS, healing IAS, the warm spring sun healing
ailments of a long and harsh winter, ABelios AFelios Helios, Greek sun god
with a quadriga of horses. CA BAL, sky CA hot BAL, named the summer sun
horse, Latin caballus Italian cavallo French cheval, Spanish caballo.
Hear them run

CA LAB CA LAB CA LAB CA LAB ...

CA BEL CA BEL CA BEL CA BEL ...

CA BAL CA BAL CA BAL CA BAL ...

Magdalenian PAC named the common horse, AS PAC, upward AS horse PAC,
the horse of the first Indo-European homeland on the banks of the Amu
Darya, centered in the triangle of Termez and Kunduz and Kurgan T'upe,
small pony-like horses used for carrying loads up the slope of a hill
or mountain, AS PAC Avestan aspa Sanskrit asva for horse. Emphatic
PAC AS AS, horse up up, named the personified hot summer wind Afghanetz
that blows from the Aral Sea along the Amu Darya up to the Hindukush,
the winged horse Pegasos Pegasus, horse of poetry, indicating an oral
epic of the first Indo-Europeans, fragments of which might survive in
the oldest Greek mythology. The phonetically similar but semantically
different compound AC PAS, an expanse of land with water AC everywhere
in a plain PAS (here, south and north of me, east and west of me,
in all five places, Greek pas pan 'all every' pente penta- 'five') -
riding this animal you get everywhere PAS on earth AC = in the steppes
of the second and third IE homeland, in the Uralic steppes east of the
Rha Volga, and in the Pontic steppes west of the Rha Volga ... AC PAS
*hekwos Greek hippos Latin equus, also the Gallo-Roman horse goddess Epona
and Finnish hevonen 'horse'. PIE offers *hekwos hippos equus aspa asva.
Magdalenian makes a difference, AS PAC aspa asva, AC PAS *hekwos hippos
equus Epona hevonen. I consider this one of my strongest Magdalenian
test cases.

TYR names the one who overcomes in the double sense of rule and give,
emphatic Middle Helladic Sseyr (Phaistos Disc, Derk Ohlenroth) Doric Sseus
(Wilhelm Larfeld) Homeric Zeus. Close derivatives of TYR abound in Central
Asia. Inverse RYT means spear thrower, archer, accounting for German Ritter
'knight', a riding archer, for Ross und Reiter 'horse and rider', German
Ross for horse an emphatic form (analogous to TYR emphatic Sseyr), English
hoss horse.

REO means river, accounting for the Rha, modern Volga, river between
the second IE homeland in the Uralic steppes and third IE homeland in
the Pontic steppes, personified in Minoan Rheia and Greek Rhea, mother
of Zeus and Poseidon and Hades, her alter ego the Gallo-Roman horse
goddess Epona who rode a horse in lady fashion, accompanied by a bird
and a foal and a dog that evoke the emblematic animals of Zeus, an eagle,
and of Poseidon, a horse, and of Hades, a dog. The main sanctuary of
Epona had been Alesia near a spring of the river Seine, at the base of
Mont Rea. Walisian Rhiannon 'horse' is a further derivative of REO,
the undulating necks of a herd of running horses evoking the waves of
a rushing river.
Franz Gnaedinger
2016-03-19 08:32:20 UTC
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Post by Franz Gnaedinger
Lino Guzella, president of the ETH Zurich, gave an interesting interview
on Swiss Radio SRF1 saying students should learn how to think on their own
instead of stuffing their head with knowledge that can be retrieved online.
A man after my own heart. Well, if the participants in the conference get
hold of the previous Magdalenian test case (deus theos / Zeus vs deus Zeus
/ theos) they are welcome to consider a related one: words and compounds
naming the horse, Indo-European animal par excellence - one of my strongest
Magdalenian test cases, rendered in the briefst possible form.
the horse, the horse, the horse (the horse, the horse)
CA LAB, sky CA cold LAB, named the winter sun horse of Lascaux, gallop
and German Klepper. CA BEL, sky CA warm BEL, named the spring sun horse,
in a longer form CA BEL IAS, healing IAS, the warm spring sun healing
ailments of a long and harsh winter, ABelios AFelios Helios, Greek sun god
with a quadriga of horses. CA BAL, sky CA hot BAL, named the summer sun
horse, Latin caballus Italian cavallo French cheval, Spanish caballo.
Hear them run
CA LAB CA LAB CA LAB CA LAB ...
CA BEL CA BEL CA BEL CA BEL ...
CA BAL CA BAL CA BAL CA BAL ...
Magdalenian PAC named the common horse, AS PAC, upward AS horse PAC,
the horse of the first Indo-European homeland on the banks of the Amu
Darya, centered in the triangle of Termez and Kunduz and Kurgan T'upe,
small pony-like horses used for carrying loads up the slope of a hill
or mountain, AS PAC Avestan aspa Sanskrit asva for horse. Emphatic
PAC AS AS, horse up up, named the personified hot summer wind Afghanetz
that blows from the Aral Sea along the Amu Darya up to the Hindukush,
the winged horse Pegasos Pegasus, horse of poetry, indicating an oral
epic of the first Indo-Europeans, fragments of which might survive in
the oldest Greek mythology. The phonetically similar but semantically
different compound AC PAS, an expanse of land with water AC everywhere
in a plain PAS (here, south and north of me, east and west of me,
in all five places, Greek pas pan 'all every' pente penta- 'five') -
riding this animal you get everywhere PAS on earth AC = in the steppes
of the second and third IE homeland, in the Uralic steppes east of the
Rha Volga, and in the Pontic steppes west of the Rha Volga ... AC PAS
*hekwos Greek hippos Latin equus, also the Gallo-Roman horse goddess Epona
and Finnish hevonen 'horse'. PIE offers *hekwos hippos equus aspa asva.
Magdalenian makes a difference, AS PAC aspa asva, AC PAS *hekwos hippos
equus Epona hevonen. I consider this one of my strongest Magdalenian
test cases.
TYR names the one who overcomes in the double sense of rule and give,
emphatic Middle Helladic Sseyr (Phaistos Disc, Derk Ohlenroth) Doric Sseus
(Wilhelm Larfeld) Homeric Zeus. Close derivatives of TYR abound in Central
Asia. Inverse RYT means spear thrower, archer, accounting for German Ritter
'knight', a riding archer, for Ross und Reiter 'horse and rider', German
Ross for horse an emphatic form (analogous to TYR emphatic Sseyr), English
hoss horse.
REO means river, accounting for the Rha, modern Volga, river between
the second IE homeland in the Uralic steppes and third IE homeland in
the Pontic steppes, personified in Minoan Rheia and Greek Rhea, mother
of Zeus and Poseidon and Hades, her alter ego the Gallo-Roman horse
goddess Epona who rode a horse in lady fashion, accompanied by a bird
and a foal and a dog that evoke the emblematic animals of Zeus, an eagle,
and of Poseidon, a horse, and of Hades, a dog. The main sanctuary of
Epona had been Alesia near a spring of the river Seine, at the base of
Mont Rea. Walisian Rhiannon 'horse' is a further derivative of REO,
the undulating necks of a herd of running horses evoking the waves of
a rushing river.
Small addition. I meant to say: when the participants in the conference
get hold of the previous Magdalenian test case (...) and bear up they are
welcome to consider a related one: (...)

By the way, I mined a good four-hundred Magdalenian words in 2005 and
mainly 2006 along my four laws of Magdalenian

1) inverse forms have related meanings
2) permutations yield words around the same meme
3) D-words have comparative forms in S-words
4) important words can have lateral associations

Cave art and rock art and mobile art are the basis of Magdalenian,
lunisolar calendars are the spine of Magdalenian, and compounds are
the pride of Magdalenian, its beauty and power. I admire the poetic
mind of the Stone Agers who 'coined' ingenious terms and compounds,
making life and the world accessible for human reasoning.
Mścisław Wojna-Bojewski
2016-03-20 21:46:08 UTC
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Franz, really: How on earth do you relate Magdalenian to the concept of controlled natural language? Do you understand that concept?
Franz Gnaedinger
2016-03-21 07:56:38 UTC
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Post by Franz Gnaedinger
Small addition. I meant to say: when the participants in the conference
get hold of the previous Magdalenian test case (...) and bear up they are
welcome to consider a related one: (...)
By the way, I mined a good four-hundred Magdalenian words in 2005 and
mainly 2006 along my four laws of Magdalenian
1) inverse forms have related meanings
2) permutations yield words around the same meme
3) D-words have comparative forms in S-words
4) important words can have lateral associations
Cave art and rock art and mobile art are the basis of Magdalenian,
lunisolar calendars are the spine of Magdalenian, and compounds are
the pride of Magdalenian, its beauty and power. I admire the poetic
mind of the Stone Agers who 'coined' ingenious terms and compounds,
making life and the world accessible for human reasoning.
Quote from Wikipedia's page on controlled natural language:

(quote)

Controlled natural languages (CNLs) are subsets of natural languages that are obtained by restricting the grammar and vocabulary in order to reduce or eliminate ambiguity and complexity. Traditionally, controlled languages fall into two major types: those that improve readability for human readers (e.g. non-native speakers), and those that enable reliable automatic semantic analysis of the language.

The first type of languages (often called "simplified" or "technical" languages), for example ASD Simplified Technical English, Caterpillar Technical English, IBM's Easy English, are used in the industry to increase the quality of technical documentation, and possibly simplify the (semi-)automatic translation of the documentation. These languages restrict the writer by general rules such as "Keep sentences short", "Avoid the use of pronouns", "Only use dictionary-approved words", and "Use only the active voice".[1]

The second type of languages have a formal logical basis, i.e. they have a formal syntax and semantics, and can be mapped to an existing formal language, such as first-order logic. Thus, those languages can be used as knowledge-representation languages, and writing of those languages is supported by fully automatic consistency and redundancy checks, query answering, etc.

(unquote)

It may be of interest for the participants in the conference to learn about
the 'controlled natural language' at the base of Indo-European. Exo-biology
(quest for life on other planets) poses the question whether life could
emerge on the basis of maybe silicon instead of carbon? and so one might
ponder the question whether a language could be devised on another set
of elementary words than the good four-hundred Magdalenian words I mined?
Magdalenian proposes an evolutionary model the study of which might also
be profitable for computer language. The topic I have in mind is 'natrual
language generation' (see the list given by Thomas Kuhn). Magdalenian
used the grammar of body language, even modern language is embedded in
gestures, Norwegian to the same degree as Italian (as a fairly recent
study proved). How did verbal grammar evolve? This can be gleaned from
Magdalenian double formulae. Martin Meyer, neurologist at the university
of Zurich, says that a grammar center in the brain has been searched for
in vain, grammar should rather be understood as 'recursive sequencing'
comparable to the some twenty muscles that move the arm: one muscle makes
a beginning, another muscle a correction, and so on. This goes along
with my old opinion that we don't have one single universal grammar
but various grammars working together, so we can look out for different
models, one of them classical grammar, another one Chomsky's grammar,
and my favorite one, the revolutionary grammar developed by Pater
Rupert Ruhstaller OSB, a grammar of functors and arguments, visualized
by budding circles, functors being the centers and arguments on the
circumferences, arguments becoming new functors in the center of
further circles http://www.seshat.ch/home/grammar.htm Ruhstaller
is (to my knowledge) the first one who found sense in word order
(see the tension diagram of the opening lines of Virgils Aeneid
on the above page). Then there is the very basic grammar of attracting
and guidng attention. Magdalenian is based on this background. I am
convinced that all this can contribute to the evolution of computer
language or computer added language. Art is the human measure in
a technical world. Studying human language and implementing results
in computer aided language is the way of well integrating computers
into our life.
Mścisław Wojna-Bojewski
2016-03-21 11:43:13 UTC
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So, you didn't know what it meant, and checked it in the Wikipedia. This is just too funny.

And obviously, you still have no idea what controlled natural language means.
Franz Gnaedinger
2016-03-22 08:25:22 UTC
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Post by Franz Gnaedinger
It may be of interest for the participants in the conference to learn about
the 'controlled natural language' at the base of Indo-European. Exo-biology
(quest for life on other planets) poses the question whether life could
emerge on the basis of maybe silicon instead of carbon? and so one might
ponder the question whether a language could be devised on another set
of elementary words than the good four-hundred Magdalenian words I mined?
Magdalenian proposes an evolutionary model the study of which might also
be profitable for computer language. The topic I have in mind is 'natrual
language generation' (see the list given by Thomas Kuhn). Magdalenian
used the grammar of body language, even modern language is embedded in
gestures, Norwegian to the same degree as Italian (as a fairly recent
study proved). How did verbal grammar evolve? This can be gleaned from
Magdalenian double formulae. Martin Meyer, neurologist at the university
of Zurich, says that a grammar center in the brain has been searched for
in vain, grammar should rather be understood as 'recursive sequencing'
comparable to the some twenty muscles that move the arm: one muscle makes
a beginning, another muscle a correction, and so on. This goes along
with my old opinion that we don't have one single universal grammar
but various grammars working together, so we can look out for different
models, one of them classical grammar, another one Chomsky's grammar,
and my favorite one, the revolutionary grammar developed by Pater
Rupert Ruhstaller OSB, a grammar of functors and arguments, visualized
by budding circles, functors being the centers and arguments on the
circumferences, arguments becoming new functors in the center of
further circles http://www.seshat.ch/home/grammar.htm Ruhstaller
is (to my knowledge) the first one who found sense in word order
(see the tension diagram of the opening lines of Virgils Aeneid
on the above page). Then there is the very basic grammar of attracting
and guidng attention. Magdalenian is based on this background. I am
convinced that all this can contribute to the evolution of computer
language or computer added language. Art is the human measure in
a technical world. Studying human language and implementing results
in computer aided language is the way of well integrating computers
into our life.
My apology for a Freudian slip: 'Thomas Kuhn' obviously reveals my hope
Tobias Kuhn might be as open-minded as the renown author on the structure
of scientific revolution who said believers in an old paradigm can't be
convinced but will eventualy die out whereupon the young ones adopt
a working new paradigm without further qualms.

If you have an idea for a grammar, one in the concert of many grammars,
go for it.

Controlled natural language is a new concept and sub-sub-sub-discipline
in linguistics, established only in 2010, its goal apparently to make
language - computer language - simple, clear, and unambiguous. From the
samples I saw there is a lot more work required, and this, in my opinion,
asks for a better understanding of language and grammar in general.
Mścisław Wojna-Bojewski
2016-03-22 08:37:15 UTC
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Post by Franz Gnaedinger
Controlled natural language is a new concept and sub-sub-sub-discipline
in linguistics, established only in 2010, its goal apparently to make
language - computer language - simple, clear, and unambiguous.
Wrong. The most well-known (to me at least) controlled natural language is Seaspeak, a project that was initiated back in the eighties. And as the name "controlled *natural* language" suggests, it is not about computer languages, but about standardizing the phrases needed for human-to-human communication in situations where ambiguity must be avoided. Such as between sea captains with different native languages.

How can Franz be so stupid and ignorant, and so full of self-confidence?
Yusuf B Gursey
2016-03-22 10:08:57 UTC
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On Tuesday, March 22, 2016 at 10:25:25 AM UTC+2, Franz Gnaedinger wrote:

Franz, the poster only made an announcement.

He won't be reading follow-ups.
Post by Franz Gnaedinger
My apology for a Freudian slip: 'Thomas Kuhn' obviously reveals my hope
Tobias Kuhn might be as open-minded as the renown author on the structure
of scientific revolution who said believers in an old paradigm can't be
convinced but will eventualy die out whereupon the young ones adopt
a working new paradigm without further qualms.
If you have an idea for a grammar, one in the concert of many grammars,
go for it.
Controlled natural language is a new concept and sub-sub-sub-discipline
in linguistics, established only in 2010, its goal apparently to make
language - computer language - simple, clear, and unambiguous. From the
samples I saw there is a lot more work required, and this, in my opinion,
asks for a better understanding of language and grammar in general.
Franz Gnaedinger
2016-03-23 08:25:50 UTC
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Post by Franz Gnaedinger
My apology for a Freudian slip: 'Thomas Kuhn' obviously reveals my hope
Tobias Kuhn might be as open-minded as the renown author on the structure
of scientific revolution who said believers in an old paradigm can't be
convinced but will eventualy die out whereupon the young ones adopt
a working new paradigm without further qualms.
If you have an idea for a grammar, one in the concert of many grammars,
go for it.
Controlled natural language is a new concept and sub-sub-sub-discipline
in linguistics, established only in 2010, its goal apparently to make
language - computer language - simple, clear, and unambiguous. From the
samples I saw there is a lot more work required, and this, in my opinion,
asks for a better understanding of language and grammar in general.
Read this article by Tobias Kuhn:

A Survey and Classification of Controlled Natural Languages
www.aclweb.org/anthology/J14-1005
by T Kuhn - Cited by 81 - Related articles
A Survey and Classification of Controlled. Natural Languages. Tobias Kuhn. *. ETH Zurich and University of Zurich. What is here called controlled natural ...

(end of quote)

The conference is about a new project in Controlled Natural Language
that was consolidated in 2010, ending a brainstorm phase. And yes,
it has to do with computers, one goal being to condense all of Internet.

Also, I am aware that academe does not read what we say here, but I go on,
considering the motto of an Austrian filmer: You got no chance but take it.
Franz Gnaedinger
2016-03-24 08:11:31 UTC
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Post by Franz Gnaedinger
A Survey and Classification of Controlled Natural Languages
www.aclweb.org/anthology/J14-1005
by T Kuhn - Cited by 81 - Related articles
A Survey and Classification of Controlled. Natural Languages. Tobias Kuhn. *. ETH Zurich and University of Zurich. What is here called controlled natural ...
(end of quote)
The conference is about a new project in Controlled Natural Language
that was consolidated in 2010, ending a brainstorm phase. And yes,
it has to do with computers, one goal being to condense all of Internet.
Also, I am aware that academe does not read what we say here, but I go on,
considering the motto of an Austrian filmer: You got no chance but take it.
Correction. The above motto is by the Bavarian writer and filmer Herbert
Achternbusch: "Du hast keine Chance aber nutze sie." And messages in the
sci.groups a r e being read by academe, at least one of mine had been
consulted. In October 2000 in sci.archaeology I replied to one Andy,
big fan of Graham Hancock, telling him that real science and art are
so much more exciting than pseudo-archaeology. As example I chose the
Mona Lisa painting by Leonardo da Vinci and gave a concise version of my
interpretation from 1974 pp, an allegory of seeing, title of the message
"Mona Lisa smiling." It ranked top in queries (but is now unretrievable,
sunken to the bottom of the archive). Next year, 2001, the Harvard
neurologist Margaret Livingston published a book wherein she explains
the famous smile as an optical illusion the same way I did in 1974
and again in my message from October 2000. I read several reviews on
the book, and then, a couple of years later, I saw a tv program by
one Rudij Bergann interviewing Margaret Livingston: she repeated the
optical illusion part of my message from October 2000 almost verbatim.
So I contacted Rudij Bergmann. He told me I should be glad that my
observation had been confirmed. Wow. This can happen when you share
ideas online, apart from being poked fun at and covered in invectives,
mobbed and stalked, having messages killrated (in earlier years) and
flagged for abuse (nowadays).

Luckily I have always more ideas than can be stolen from me, and I enjoy
the freedom of saying what I want. Even professors envied me for that
freedom. During their career they are bound, tied, zipped and cuffed
by 5,735,621 academic prejudices. I did my best unzipping at least one
of them, helping him develop a fine notion.

The USA gathered and probably still gather emerited European professors
for their potential in ideas they held a secret, fearing to be laughed out
or even risk their job.
Yusuf B Gursey
2016-03-24 10:06:28 UTC
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Post by Franz Gnaedinger
Post by Franz Gnaedinger
A Survey and Classification of Controlled Natural Languages
www.aclweb.org/anthology/J14-1005
by T Kuhn - Cited by 81 - Related articles
A Survey and Classification of Controlled. Natural Languages. Tobias Kuhn. *. ETH Zurich and University of Zurich. What is here called controlled natural ...
(end of quote)
The conference is about a new project in Controlled Natural Language
that was consolidated in 2010, ending a brainstorm phase. And yes,
it has to do with computers, one goal being to condense all of Internet.
Also, I am aware that academe does not read what we say here, but I go on,
considering the motto of an Austrian filmer: You got no chance but take it.
Correction. The above motto is by the Bavarian writer and filmer Herbert
Achternbusch: "Du hast keine Chance aber nutze sie." And messages in the
sci.groups a r e being read by academe, at least one of mine had been
Congratulations! One post!

But not by someone who just wanted to make an announcement.
Like your pleas to "Google Company"
Post by Franz Gnaedinger
consulted. In October 2000 in sci.archaeology I replied to one Andy,
big fan of Graham Hancock, telling him that real science and art are
so much more exciting than pseudo-archaeology. As example I chose the
Mona Lisa painting by Leonardo da Vinci and gave a concise version of my
interpretation from 1974 pp, an allegory of seeing, title of the message
"Mona Lisa smiling." It ranked top in queries (but is now unretrievable,
sunken to the bottom of the archive). Next year, 2001, the Harvard
neurologist Margaret Livingston published a book wherein she explains
the famous smile as an optical illusion the same way I did in 1974
and again in my message from October 2000. I read several reviews on
the book, and then, a couple of years later, I saw a tv program by
one Rudij Bergann interviewing Margaret Livingston: she repeated the
optical illusion part of my message from October 2000 almost verbatim.
So I contacted Rudij Bergmann. He told me I should be glad that my
observation had been confirmed. Wow. This can happen when you share
ideas online, apart from being poked fun at and covered in invectives,
mobbed and stalked, having messages killrated (in earlier years) and
flagged for abuse (nowadays).
Luckily I have always more ideas than can be stolen from me, and I enjoy
the freedom of saying what I want. Even professors envied me for that
freedom. During their career they are bound, tied, zipped and cuffed
by 5,735,621 academic prejudices. I did my best unzipping at least one
of them, helping him develop a fine notion.
The USA gathered and probably still gather emerited European professors
for their potential in ideas they held a secret, fearing to be laughed out
or even risk their job.
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