Discussion:
Kingston to Eastbourne bus
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Arthur Figgis
2019-02-10 11:22:52 UTC
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Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.

Why does this exist?

Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne, rather than
take a train? Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares
from GBP8.50 single... but you would spend more of the day on the bus
than in Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are not valid(?).
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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK
Roland Perry
2019-02-10 11:45:52 UTC
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In message <0I-***@brightview.co.uk>, at
11:22:52 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne, rather than
take a train?
Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
Post by Arthur Figgis
Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares from GBP8.50
single... but you would spend more of the day on the bus than in
Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are not valid(?).
The X5 (above) offers an unspecified discount for card-holders before
9:30 which implies they are valid after 9:30.
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Roland Perry
Optimist
2019-02-10 12:25:14 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
11:22:52 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne, rather than
take a train?
Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
Post by Arthur Figgis
Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares from GBP8.50
single... but you would spend more of the day on the bus than in
Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are not valid(?).
The X5 (above) offers an unspecified discount for card-holders before
9:30 which implies they are valid after 9:30.
I can see the attraction to many people of a through bus service over a faster rail journey
requiring changes en route.
Arthur Figgis
2019-02-10 12:30:29 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
11:22:52 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne, rather than
take a train?
Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
These days aren't those posh vehicles with according to Stagecoach "the
luxury of leather reclining seats, air conditioning and free Wi-Fi" (and
tiolets), rather than ordinary red double-deckers like this
https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakes_bus_photographs/35717850435
Post by Roland Perry
Post by Arthur Figgis
Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares from GBP8.50
single... but you would spend more of the day on the bus than in
Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are not valid(?).
The X5 (above) offers an unspecified discount for card-holders before
9:30 which implies they are valid after 9:30.
"Special £7 Return on 774 only for Freedom Pass Holders.No other
concessions available."
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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK
Roland Perry
2019-02-10 12:55:59 UTC
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12:30:29 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Roland Perry
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne, rather
than take a train?
Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
These days aren't those posh vehicles with according to Stagecoach "the
luxury of leather reclining seats, air conditioning and free Wi-Fi"
(and tiolets), rather than ordinary red double-deckers like this
https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakes_bus_photographs/35717850435
Post by Roland Perry
Post by Arthur Figgis
Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares from GBP8.50
single... but you would spend more of the day on the bus than in
Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are not valid(?).
The X5 (above) offers an unspecified discount for card-holders
before 9:30 which implies they are valid after 9:30.
"Special £7 Return on 774 only for Freedom Pass Holders.No other
concessions available."
What's 774?
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Roland Perry
Arthur Figgis
2019-02-10 13:12:32 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
12:30:29 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne, rather
than  take a train?
 Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
These days aren't those posh vehicles with according to Stagecoach
"the luxury of leather reclining seats, air conditioning and free
Wi-Fi" (and tiolets), rather than ordinary red double-deckers like
this https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakes_bus_photographs/35717850435
Post by Arthur Figgis
Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares from GBP8.50
single... but you would spend more of the day on the bus than in
Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are not valid(?).
 The X5 (above) offers an unspecified discount for card-holders
before  9:30 which implies they are valid after 9:30.
"Special £7 Return on 774 only for Freedom Pass Holders.No other
concessions available."
What's 774?
Dorking to Tunbridge Wells or Bluewater, it seems. GoAhead seem to have
a handful of these odd infrequent return services.
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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK
Roland Perry
2019-02-10 13:30:20 UTC
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13:12:32 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Roland Perry
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne, rather
than  take a train?
 Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
These days aren't those posh vehicles with according to Stagecoach
"the luxury of leather reclining seats, air conditioning and free
Wi-Fi" (and tiolets), rather than ordinary red double-deckers like
this https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakes_bus_photographs/35717850435
Post by Arthur Figgis
Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares from
GBP8.50 single... but you would spend more of the day on the bus
than in Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are not valid(?).
 The X5 (above) offers an unspecified discount for card-holders
before  9:30 which implies they are valid after 9:30.
"Special £7 Return on 774 only for Freedom Pass Holders.No other
concessions available."
What's 774?
Dorking to Tunbridge Wells or Bluewater, it seems. GoAhead seem to have
a handful of these odd infrequent return services.
I was wondering how 774 applied to the X5.
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Roland Perry
Arthur Figgis
2019-02-10 13:51:40 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
13:12:32 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne, rather
than  take a train?
 Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
These days aren't those posh vehicles with according to Stagecoach
"the luxury of leather reclining seats, air conditioning and free
Wi-Fi" (and tiolets), rather than ordinary red double-deckers like
this https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakes_bus_photographs/35717850435
Post by Arthur Figgis
Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares from
GBP8.50  single... but you would spend more of the day on the bus
than in  Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are not
valid(?).
 The X5 (above) offers an unspecified discount for card-holders
before  9:30 which implies they are valid after 9:30.
"Special £7 Return on 774 only for Freedom Pass Holders.No other
concessions available."
 What's 774?
Dorking to Tunbridge Wells or Bluewater, it seems. GoAhead seem to
have a handful of these odd infrequent return services.
I was wondering how 774 applied to the X5.
I was wondering how the X5 applied to transport in (or from) London...
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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK
Roland Perry
2019-02-10 15:03:27 UTC
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13:51:40 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Roland Perry
13:12:32 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne,
rather than  take a train?
 Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
These days aren't those posh vehicles with according to Stagecoach
"the luxury of leather reclining seats, air conditioning and free
Wi-Fi" (and tiolets), rather than ordinary red double-deckers like
this https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakes_bus_photographs/35717850435
Post by Arthur Figgis
Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares from
GBP8.50  single... but you would spend more of the day on the bus
than in  Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are not valid(?).
 The X5 (above) offers an unspecified discount for card-holders
before  9:30 which implies they are valid after 9:30.
"Special £7 Return on 774 only for Freedom Pass Holders.No other
concessions available."
 What's 774?
Dorking to Tunbridge Wells or Bluewater, it seems. GoAhead seem to
have a handful of these odd infrequent return services.
I was wondering how 774 applied to the X5.
I was wondering how the X5 applied to transport in (or from) London...
It's a well-known example of a bus service with longer end-to-end times
than the OP's. Or do you think residents of Kingston are more fidgety
than those in Oxford or Cambridge?
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Roland Perry
Arthur Figgis
2019-02-10 16:06:20 UTC
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13:51:40 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
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Post by Roland Perry
13:12:32 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
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Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne,
rather  than  take a train?
 Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
These days aren't those posh vehicles with according to Stagecoach
"the luxury of leather reclining seats, air conditioning and free
Wi-Fi" (and tiolets), rather than ordinary red double-deckers like
this https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakes_bus_photographs/35717850435
Post by Arthur Figgis
Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares from
GBP8.50  single... but you would spend more of the day on the
bus than in  Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are
not valid(?).
 The X5 (above) offers an unspecified discount for card-holders
before  9:30 which implies they are valid after 9:30.
"Special £7 Return on 774 only for Freedom Pass Holders.No other
concessions available."
 What's 774?
Dorking to Tunbridge Wells or Bluewater, it seems. GoAhead seem to
have a handful of these odd infrequent return services.
 I was wondering how 774 applied to the X5.
I was wondering how the X5 applied to transport in (or from) London...
It's a well-known example of a bus service with longer end-to-end times
than the OP's. Or do you think residents of Kingston are more fidgety
than those in Oxford or Cambridge?
I can see the need for a frequent, direct link between a major centre of
education, science, technology etc, south Midlands-ish towns not linked
by rail, and a place where marmalade comes from, but it is less obvious
where there would be a bus from a fairly generic suburb to a suburb
no-one has heard of to a place with fast trains to a random seaside town.

Some years ago I found a London bus route which had a "parliamentary"
style service which had apparently linked an old people's residential
area with a supermarket, which had since been eclipsed by changing
retail patterns but did have a non-obvious reason to be there.
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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK
Roland Perry
2019-02-10 17:36:42 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
13:51:40 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
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Post by Roland Perry
13:12:32 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne,
rather  than  take a train?
 Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
These days aren't those posh vehicles with according to
Stagecoach "the luxury of leather reclining seats, air
conditioning and free Wi-Fi" (and tiolets), rather than ordinary
red double-deckers like this
https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakes_bus_photographs/35717850435
Post by Arthur Figgis
Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares from
GBP8.50  single... but you would spend more of the day on the
bus than in  Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are not valid(?).
 The X5 (above) offers an unspecified discount for card-holders
before  9:30 which implies they are valid after 9:30.
"Special £7 Return on 774 only for Freedom Pass Holders.No other
concessions available."
 What's 774?
Dorking to Tunbridge Wells or Bluewater, it seems. GoAhead seem to
have a handful of these odd infrequent return services.
 I was wondering how 774 applied to the X5.
I was wondering how the X5 applied to transport in (or from) London...
It's a well-known example of a bus service with longer end-to-end
times than the OP's. Or do you think residents of Kingston are more
fidgety than those in Oxford or Cambridge?
I can see the need for a frequent, direct link between a major centre
of education, science, technology etc, south Midlands-ish towns not
linked by rail, and a place where marmalade comes from,
The perceived need is somewhat diluted by the ~4hr each way timing.
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Robin
2019-02-10 21:32:37 UTC
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13:51:40 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Roland Perry
13:12:32 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
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Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne,
rather  than  take a train?
 Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
These days aren't those posh vehicles with according to
Stagecoach "the luxury of leather reclining seats, air
conditioning and free Wi-Fi" (and tiolets), rather than ordinary
red double-deckers like this
https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakes_bus_photographs/35717850435
Post by Arthur Figgis
Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares from
GBP8.50  single... but you would spend more of the day on the
bus than in  Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are
not valid(?).
 The X5 (above) offers an unspecified discount for card-holders
before  9:30 which implies they are valid after 9:30.
"Special £7 Return on 774 only for Freedom Pass Holders.No other
concessions available."
 What's 774?
Dorking to Tunbridge Wells or Bluewater, it seems. GoAhead seem to
have a handful of these odd infrequent return services.
 I was wondering how 774 applied to the X5.
I was wondering how the X5 applied to transport in (or from) London...
It's a well-known example of a bus service with longer end-to-end
times than the OP's. Or do you think residents of Kingston are more
fidgety than those in Oxford or Cambridge?
I can see the need for a frequent, direct link between a major centre of
education, science, technology etc, south Midlands-ish towns not linked
by rail, and a place where marmalade comes from, but it is less obvious
where there would be a bus from a fairly generic suburb to a suburb
no-one has heard of to a place with fast trains to a random seaside town.
It's not a question of "need".

You may find it hard to believe but some people enjoy sitting on a bus
and looking at what's passing by outside the window; then spending a few
hours at the seaside (or wherever); then sitting on the bus on the way
back looking out the windows again (or if it's dark talking about what
they've seen and done). And they'd rather do that - very cheaply - than
spend more money on a faster route by means of a series of journeys by
rail. There may not be very many such people these days. But it
doesn't take very many to make a service which runs so rarely
potentially profitable, especially if Go Ahead are making use of assets
which would otherwise not be in use.
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Arthur Figgis
2019-02-11 18:00:30 UTC
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Post by Robin
You may find it hard to believe but some people enjoy sitting on a bus
and looking at what's passing by outside the window; then spending a few
hours at the seaside (or wherever); then sitting on the bus on the way
back looking out the windows again (or if it's dark talking about what
they've seen and done).  And they'd rather do that - very cheaply - than
spend more money on a faster route by means of a series of journeys by
rail.  There may not be very many such people these days.  But it
doesn't take very many to make a service which runs so rarely
potentially profitable, especially if Go Ahead are making use of assets
which would otherwise not be in use.
I can see that that works for some services (hello Yorkshire Coastliner,
or the often packed summer buses along the coast), but I'm amazed there
are enough people in Kingston and Sutton wanting to do it.
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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK
Robin
2019-02-10 13:49:15 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
12:30:29 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne, rather
than  take a train?
 Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
These days aren't those posh vehicles with according to Stagecoach
"the luxury of leather reclining seats, air conditioning and free
Wi-Fi" (and tiolets), rather than ordinary red double-deckers like
this https://www.flickr.com/photos/drakes_bus_photographs/35717850435
Post by Arthur Figgis
Yes, it's cheap, 10 quid return compared to train fares from
GBP8.50 single... but you would spend more of the day on the bus
than in Eastbourne. It looks like coffin-dodger passes are not valid(?).
 The X5 (above) offers an unspecified discount for card-holders
before  9:30 which implies they are valid after 9:30.
"Special £7 Return on 774 only for Freedom Pass Holders.No other
concessions available."
What's 774?
Dorking to Tunbridge Wells or Bluewater, it seems. GoAhead seem to have
a handful of these odd infrequent return services.
It seems to me they are a residual example of the once common phenomenon
in London: "days out" using buses. My memory is not reliable but I seem
to recall they were widely advertised on London buses when I
occasionally used them in the late 50s/early 60s. ("Occasionally" as
they cost money so even as a nipper I was expected to walk.)

And lo, the first page of search results yielded

https://www.goaheadlondon.com/events/post/enjoy-our-great-days-out

which includes

"Go-Ahead London is pleased to provide our new ‘77’ services as part of
our special Great Days Out range for winter and spring 2018/2019.

Check out our ‘group friendly’ fares to Tunbridge Wells, Bluewater,
Brighton, Eastbourne Pier; and new destination Portsmouth, departing
from Dorking, Sutton or Kingston."

and

"2 Together return £15"

None of those may be to your taste. But for people who are time-rich,
money poor, they have their attractions.

That said, the lack of advertised loo stops would give me pause for
thought these days :(
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b***@cm7.co.uk
2019-02-10 16:37:05 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
11:22:52 on Sun, 10 Feb 2019, Arthur Figgis
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Does anyone actually spend 3h 5min on a bus to Eastbourne, rather than
take a train?
Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
These days aren't those posh vehicles with according to Stagecoach "the
luxury of leather reclining seats, air conditioning and free Wi-Fi" (and
Luxury is always a relative term when applied to buses. It'll still be cramped,
bouncy and slow with a toilet that will probably stink the bus out about an
hour into the journey.
John Levine
2019-02-10 17:37:01 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
How many people take it end to end? The few times I took it most
people got on or off in Bedford and Milton Keynes.
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Roland Perry
2019-02-10 17:47:55 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
Easily beaten by the 3hrs 50mins for the Oxford-Cambridge bus.
How many people take it end to end?
Enough to perhaps convince some gullible people that a rail replacement
for the bus is a good idea?
Post by John Levine
The few times I took it most people got on or off in Bedford and Milton
Keynes.
The service is in fact a Cambridge-Bedford, and Bedford-Oxford
service[1] glued together with some marketing spin. Much like the East-
West rail route they are trying to resurrect.

[1] See the timetable outside the core hours:

<https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/East/BEDF
ORD/BE%20-%20X5%20-%20DEC%202018.pdf>
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John Levine
2019-02-10 18:59:14 UTC
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How many people take it end to end?
Enough to perhaps convince some gullible people that a rail replacement
for the bus is a good idea?
Sheesh, what a cheap shot. We hardly need tell you that the train
trip via London is an hour faster, albeit a lot more expensive.
Post by Roland Perry
The service is in fact a Cambridge-Bedford, and Bedford-Oxford
service[1] glued together with some marketing spin. Much like the East-
West rail route they are trying to resurrect.
There is a 10 minute layover in Bedford but it's the same bus.
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2019-02-10 16:35:43 UTC
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Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
OAPs day out to the seaside?
Theo
2019-02-11 00:23:55 UTC
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Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
It's a Go Ahead initiative:
https://www.goaheadlondon.com/events/post/enjoy-our-great-days-out

Theo
David Cantrell
2019-02-11 12:49:25 UTC
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Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Because if you've already fucked up your life enough that you want to go
to Eastbourne, then going by bus instead of train really isn't any worse.

The real reason is no doubt that it actually serves Kingston to Somewhere
In Between, and Somewhere In Between to Eastbourne, a bit like how the
50 bus goes from Stockwell to Croydon but hardly any *passengers* go from
Stockwell to Croydon.
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John Williamson
2019-02-11 13:08:57 UTC
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The real reason is no doubt that it actually serves Kingston to Somewhere
In Between, and Somewhere In Between to Eastbourne, a bit like how the
50 bus goes from Stockwell to Croydon but hardly any *passengers* go from
Stockwell to Croydon.
It's marketed as a day trip from Kingston to Brighton and Eastbourne.
Legally, as the route is over 50 kilometres in length, the driver will
be under EU rules, and will have to use a tachograph.
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Roland Perry
2019-02-11 14:24:03 UTC
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Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Because if you've already fucked up your life enough that you want to go
to Eastbourne, then going by bus instead of train really isn't any worse.
The real reason is no doubt that it actually serves Kingston to Somewhere
In Between, and Somewhere In Between to Eastbourne, a bit like how the
50 bus goes from Stockwell to Croydon but hardly any *passengers* go from
Stockwell to Croydon.
Is the wrong answer.

It turns out to be a tour bus that for some reason has been given a
number that makes it look like a stage bus.
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Arthur Figgis
2019-02-11 17:57:53 UTC
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Post by David Cantrell
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Because if you've already fucked up your life enough that you want to go
to Eastbourne, then going by bus instead of train really isn't any worse.
There are places a *lot* worse than Eastbourne.
Post by David Cantrell
The real reason is no doubt that it actually serves Kingston to Somewhere
In Between, and Somewhere In Between to Eastbourne,
The timetable suggests it doesn't - well, there is Brighton, but the
same question arises. I guess day trips to Eastbourne would make more
sense than day trips to Crawley.
Post by David Cantrell
a bit like how the
50 bus goes from Stockwell to Croydon but hardly any *passengers* go from
Stockwell to Croydon.
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Graeme Wall
2019-02-11 18:46:01 UTC
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Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by David Cantrell
Post by Arthur Figgis
Waiting at a bus stop yesterday, I noticed the times for a
few-days-a-year return bus service from Kingston to Eastbourne.
Why does this exist?
Because if you've already fucked up your life enough that you want to go
to Eastbourne, then going by bus instead of train really isn't any worse.
There are places a *lot* worse than Eastbourne.
Hastings, for instance.
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by David Cantrell
The real reason is no doubt that it actually serves Kingston to Somewhere
In Between, and Somewhere In Between to Eastbourne,
The timetable suggests it doesn't - well, there is Brighton, but the
same question arises. I guess day trips to Eastbourne would make more
sense than day trips to Crawley.
Post by David Cantrell
a bit like how the
50 bus goes from Stockwell to Croydon but hardly any *passengers* go from
Stockwell to Croydon.
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David Cantrell
2019-02-12 10:22:58 UTC
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Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by David Cantrell
Because if you've already fucked up your life enough that you want to go
to Eastbourne, then going by bus instead of train really isn't any worse.
There are places a *lot* worse than Eastbourne.
Sure.

Pyongyang. Aleppo. Blackpool.
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You may now start misinterpreting what I just
wrote, and attacking that misinterpretation.
Optimist
2019-02-12 10:46:59 UTC
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Post by David Cantrell
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by David Cantrell
Because if you've already fucked up your life enough that you want to go
to Eastbourne, then going by bus instead of train really isn't any worse.
There are places a *lot* worse than Eastbourne.
Sure.
Pyongyang. Aleppo. Blackpool.
I recall the Duke of Devonshire was asked what his favourite town was.

He replied Eastbourne, as he owned most of it.
John Williamson
2019-02-12 12:15:43 UTC
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Post by David Cantrell
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by David Cantrell
Because if you've already fucked up your life enough that you want to go
to Eastbourne, then going by bus instead of train really isn't any worse.
There are places a *lot* worse than Eastbourne.
Sure.
Pyongyang. Aleppo. Blackpool.
Kingston.
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Tciao for Now!

John.
Basil Jet
2019-02-12 12:46:33 UTC
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Post by Robin
Post by David Cantrell
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by David Cantrell
Because if you've already fucked up your life enough that you want to go
to Eastbourne, then going by bus instead of train really isn't any worse.
There are places a *lot* worse than Eastbourne.
Sure.
Pyongyang. Aleppo. Blackpool.
Kingston.
Surely the main purpose of this bus is so hen parties from Eastbourne
can spend Saturday night on Kingston Pier and go home the next day.

https://goo.gl/maps/cScgHuct9892
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b***@qlwvts.ac.uk
2019-02-12 17:25:32 UTC
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Post by Robin
Post by David Cantrell
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by David Cantrell
Because if you've already fucked up your life enough that you want to go
to Eastbourne, then going by bus instead of train really isn't any worse.
There are places a *lot* worse than Eastbourne.
Sure.
Pyongyang. Aleppo. Blackpool.
Kingston.
Jamaica? The London suburb is no better or worse than other bits of London.
Graeme Wall
2019-02-12 17:32:30 UTC
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Post by Robin
Post by David Cantrell
Post by Arthur Figgis
Post by David Cantrell
Because if you've already fucked up your life enough that you want to go
to Eastbourne, then going by bus instead of train really isn't any worse.
There are places a *lot* worse than Eastbourne.
Sure.
Pyongyang. Aleppo. Blackpool.
Kingston.
Upon Hull?
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Graeme Wall
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