OT: Have a great day tomorrow

Post by Quentin Grady
G'day G'day Folks,
It may surprise many of you that the radios in New Zealand are
playing some US Independence Day music today. Thanks to the
international date line we are a day ahead and Americans living in New
Zealand would be celebrating a day ahead of the folks back home.
Hope you all have a great day. I'm trying to imagine what it must
traditionally be like. The descriptions we're given on the radio
could well be different from how it really is for you folks.
We get descriptions of people getting together for a meal, perhaps
somewhat like Thanksgiving though less sumptuous and that you play
traditional games such as baseball.

Picnics, barbecues...fireworks in the evening, accompanied by patriotic
music (and the 1812 overture).

--
AF
"Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
--artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball

Cheri

2007-07-04 02:55:12 UTC

Thanks for the good wishes Quentin. I hope you have a good day too,
even if it's not a holiday for you, a good day is always cause for
celebration. :-) I'll be here by myself tomorrow, so nothing special
planned. It's too hot for me to enjoy being out and about in the day,
and my dog is very afraid of fireworks, so even though I have a decent
view from my front yard, I'll stay inside with her during the evening.
Take care.

Cheri

Quentin Grady

2007-07-04 04:50:43 UTC

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Post by Cheri
Thanks for the good wishes Quentin. I hope you have a good day too,

G'day G'day Cheri,

Actually I did. Today has been sunny. Where I live we do get rain
and some devastating hail at times in Winter though snow is almost
unheard of. I walked the dogs along the beach front where the
gazanias grow in profusion. Some of them are flowering though not as
profusely as in Spring.

As you may have heard team New Zealand lost the fifth race of the
America's cup to the Swiss team. While this was disappointing, many
view it as one group of New Zealanders (Brad Butterworth and his tight
five) with a billion dollars of backing beating another group of New
Zealanders (the official team New Zealand) with only a hundred million
dollars of backing. Put simply, Brad is recognised as the best driver
in the business and not likely to be beaten easily.

Rumour has it that he will join one of the American teams for the next
regatta. Whatever.

The mayor of Auckland, our largest city, is planning a welcome home
celebration for team New Zealand. For a country as small as New
Zealand the publicity generated by their efforts is a win. I mention
this because it would easy for an outsider to assume the sports crazy
New Zealanders would be in mourning today. It seems they are not.

Post by Cheri
even if it's not a holiday for you, a good day is always cause for
celebration. :-)

Absolutely. The radio disc jockeys certainly seem to think so.

Post by Cheri
I'll be here by myself tomorrow, so nothing special
planned. It's too hot for me to enjoy being out and about in the day,
and my dog is very afraid of fireworks, so even though I have a decent
view from my front yard, I'll stay inside with her during the evening.
Take care.

The fireworks, is something I'd missed in understanding what it was
all about. Thanks.

Post by Cheri
Cheri

Best wishes,

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Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Quentin Grady

2007-07-04 04:37:58 UTC

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Post by Alice Faber

Post by Quentin Grady
We get descriptions of people getting together for a meal, perhaps
somewhat like Thanksgiving though less sumptuous and that you play
traditional games such as baseball.

Picnics, barbecues...fireworks in the evening, accompanied by patriotic
music (and the 1812 overture).

G'day G'day Alice,

Thanks for that description. It's mid-Winter here so the local
American community might well be forgoing the picnics and barbecues.
Seems like a great way to celebrate.

It's hard to imagine anything more stirring than the 1812 overture
even after all these years. I believe it was originally banned, it was
so emotionally provocative.

Hope you're not planning another revolution. <grin>

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Alice Faber

2007-07-04 04:51:12 UTC

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Post by Alice Faber

Post by Quentin Grady
We get descriptions of people getting together for a meal, perhaps
somewhat like Thanksgiving though less sumptuous and that you play
traditional games such as baseball.

Picnics, barbecues...fireworks in the evening, accompanied by patriotic
music (and the 1812 overture).

G'day G'day Alice,
Thanks for that description. It's mid-Winter here so the local
American community might well be forgoing the picnics and barbecues.
Seems like a great way to celebrate.
It's hard to imagine anything more stirring than the 1812 overture
even after all these years. I believe it was originally banned, it was
so emotionally provocative.
Hope you're not planning another revolution. <grin>

Perhaps we should be. But, in any case, the 1812 overture is the
traditional accompaniment to the finale of the fireworks shows, with the
cannons coordinated with the most elaborate displays.

--
AF
"Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team."
--artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball

Quentin Grady

2007-07-04 06:34:55 UTC

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Post by Alice Faber

Post by Quentin Grady
Hope you're not planning another revolution. <grin>

Perhaps we should be. But, in any case, the 1812 overture is the
traditional accompaniment to the finale of the fireworks shows, with the
cannons coordinated with the most elaborate displays.

G'day G'day Alice,

It all makes sense now. What a fabulous finale.

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Frank T2

2007-07-04 06:15:46 UTC

Well, tomorrow is here .. I wish to join my
best wishes to all the others in hoping you
celebrate in peace and happinness, your
Independance Day .. and hope that even the
Brits will get one of their own.

I am sitting here , wondering what you will do
about food today.
Will you say, 'to heck with it for one day' or
will you say, 'how can I enjoy some pie
and keep my Bg down ?

I'd be interested in your solutions !

Davybear

2007-07-04 06:40:33 UTC

Post by Frank T2
Well, tomorrow is here .. I wish to join my
best wishes to all the others in hoping you
celebrate in peace and happinness, your
Independance Day .. and hope that even the
Brits will get one of their own.
I am sitting here , wondering what you will do
about food today.
Will you say, 'to heck with it for one day' or
will you say, 'how can I enjoy some pie
and keep my Bg down ?
I'd be interested in your solutions !

I find that I can eat one slice of no sugar added apple pie with out any
significant increase in BG.
I just have to make sure that I eat a very low carb meal to go with it.
Rib Eye Steak and salad with peppercorn dressing.

Here is where I plan to eat.
http://www.crackerbarrel.com/menu-dinnerlowcarb.cfm?doc_id=904

Quentin Grady

2007-07-05 05:46:47 UTC

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Post by Davybear
I find that I can eat one slice of no sugar added apple pie with out any
significant increase in BG.
I just have to make sure that I eat a very low carb meal to go with it.
Rib Eye Steak and salad with peppercorn dressing.
Here is where I plan to eat.
http://www.crackerbarrel.com/menu-dinnerlowcarb.cfm?doc_id=904

G'day G'day Davybear,

It seems 4th of July is more diabetic friendly that some other
occasions such as Thanksgiving which seem from a zillion miles away to
involve over indulgence.

Way to go, Congratulations.

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Quentin Grady

2007-07-04 06:47:17 UTC

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G'day G'day Frank,

We all could do with an Independence Day, especially if it is an
independence of thought day. Unfortunately we live in a heavily spin
doctored world where others tell us what to think.

The latest example I've come across is research on polar bears who
struggle to for sufficient condition to be able to feed their
offspring as the Arctic ice recedes. Three of the six researchers have
financial connection with big oil companies keen to ensure data
suggesting global warming is discretely removed from their analysis.

Post by Frank T2
I am sitting here , wondering what you will do
about food today.
Will you say, 'to heck with it for one day' or
will you say, 'how can I enjoy some pie
and keep my Bg down ?

I wondered about that too. However, from my zillion mile vantage
point it seems this is not a day of obligatory eating like
Thanksgiving. Most people have mentioned picnics and barbeques. IMHO
if more people ate picnic style food, at least as I know it, on a
regular basis then most of the issues relating to nutrition would
disappear.

Frank, I think you put your finger on a point that is of extreme
relevance to T2 diabetics. Think about it. Quite a few people might
describe the changes they have to make as involving sacrifice and some
form of deprivation. What a difference it would make if instead they
thought of the transition they made to picnic style food. Much more
palatable IMHO.

What do you Americans think of that?
I'm really interested to know.

Post by Frank T2
I'd be interested in your solutions !

So will I,

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Wes Groleau

2007-07-04 12:43:01 UTC

Post by Quentin Grady

Post by Frank T2
I am sitting here , wondering what you will do
about food today.
Will you say, 'to heck with it for one day' or
will you say, 'how can I enjoy some pie
and keep my Bg down ?

In my heritage at least, Independence Day has never been
about eating. But, if it was, there are lots of things
I can eat with little effect on my glucose level.

--
Wes Groleau

Armchair Activism: http://www.breakthechain.org/armchair.html

Cheri

2007-07-04 18:07:03 UTC

Personally, I'm having watermelon. I WANTED to have corn on the cob,
potato salad, baked beans, and french bread with the ribs that we'll
be having later, but I settled on watermelon as my treat for the day,
and left the rest behind. Grilled peppers, zucchini, ribs, (small
pasta salad for hubby) and that's it. No, I won't test after the
watermelon. Have a great day.

Cheri

Frank T2 wrote in message

Post by Frank T2
I am sitting here , wondering what you will do
about food today.
Will you say, 'to heck with it for one day' or
will you say, 'how can I enjoy some pie
and keep my Bg down ?
I'd be interested in your solutions !

Quentin Grady

2007-07-05 05:50:25 UTC

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Post by Cheri
Personally, I'm having watermelon. I WANTED to have corn on the cob,
potato salad, baked beans, and french bread with the ribs that we'll
be having later, but I settled on watermelon as my treat for the day,
and left the rest behind. Grilled peppers, zucchini, ribs, (small
pasta salad for hubby) and that's it. No, I won't test after the
watermelon. Have a great day.
Cheri

Sounds like some great choices Cheri,

FWIIW, festive occasions as much about who we are with and enjoying
the company as I'm sure with your spirit you will.

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

d***@yahoo.com

2007-07-04 02:23:08 UTC

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:52:21 +1200, Quentin Grady

oh..that explains it.

Post by Quentin Grady
Hope you all have a great day. I'm trying to imagine what it must
traditionally be like. The descriptions we're given on the radio
could well be different from how it really is for you folks.
We get descriptions of people getting together for a meal, perhaps
somewhat like Thanksgiving though less sumptuous and that you play
traditional games such as baseball.
Enjoy yourselves,
Best wishes,

I'm going to stay out of the heat. 116 F tomorrow.

Quentin Grady

2007-07-04 04:52:07 UTC

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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:52:21 +1200, Quentin Grady

Post by Quentin Grady
We get descriptions of people getting together for a meal, perhaps
somewhat like Thanksgiving though less sumptuous and that you play
traditional games such as baseball.
Enjoy yourselves,
Best wishes,

I'm going to stay out of the heat. 116 F tomorrow.

So you wont be out playing baseball.

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Will, T2

2007-07-04 02:38:22 UTC

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:52:21 +1200, Quentin Grady

Hello Quentin,

Thanks so much for your post. I have often wondered how you are and
what has been happening in your life. Not meaning to pry, but I do
hope things are going well for you.

The Fourth of July is really a nice holiday here in the U.S..... Lots
of cook outs, picnics, people taking time off to be with family and
friends, etc.... Time on the beach. Many of us go to orchestral
concerts, featuring patriotic songs, and the 1812 Overture, complete
with cannon...

Anyway, thanks for dropping in... You are really at the heart and soul
of asd, and there is a permanent place reserved for you at the
fireside, so to speak.

Will, T2

Quentin Grady

2007-07-04 06:21:38 UTC

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Post by Will, T2
Hello Quentin,
Thanks so much for your post. I have often wondered how you are and
what has been happening in your life. Not meaning to pry, but I do
hope things are going well for you.
The Fourth of July is really a nice holiday here in the U.S..... Lots
of cook outs, picnics, people taking time off to be with family and
friends, etc.... Time on the beach. Many of us go to orchestral
concerts, featuring patriotic songs, and the 1812 Overture, complete
with cannon...

G'day G'day Will,

I'm quite touched by your comments. It is so important for everyone
(except perhaps hermits) to know they belong. Seems to be a
fundamental human thing.

How am I?

Thank you for your reticence, not wishing to pry.
There is something about class that shows even in text.

Well I'm much better so I'm told. It is one of the oddities of my
situation that people I meet tell me how I look rather than ask me how
I am. It is all very reassuring from a statistical point of view.
The bottom line is I haven't had to have any chemo infusions for a
long time now. The thalidomide has fortunately worked well for me.
I follow my oncologist instructions strictly. Tomorrow morning I'll
learn just how well it is going when I have an appointment with the
oncologist's intern. If the rogue bodies in the bone marrow do start
to creep up again there is a plan in place to give me a milder form of
chemo.

I haven't posted for a while simply because I've had a wretched Winter
virus that seems to drag on for three or four weeks regardless of what
one does.

The students in tertiary education have staggered holidays. At the
moment I have only one student, a student whom they realised after six
months wasn't merely the class clown, he has dyslexia. He works hard
for me and we get on well so it provides me with a challenge. That
keeps me going.

The big moment tomorrow is a workshop I'm running on Strategies for
Student Success. I've run this before for students but this time it
is for teachers. Two decades of experience poured into what seems
like a few minutes.

Post by Will, T2
Anyway, thanks for dropping in... You are really at the heart and soul
of asd, and there is a permanent place reserved for you at the
fireside, so to speak.
Will, T2

Will, that means so much.

Sometimes we all get to look at our lives.

It happened for me last weekend and I realised, yet again, how lucky
I've been to have had the experiences I've had. A change in ISP
providers by one of my asd friends prompted me to go through my
contacts list weeding out outdated addresses.

It brought back many memories of the adventures I'd had. Moments where
I was privileged to serve on a medical ethics community, times when I
was paid to assess the validity of claims for functional foods. People
who shared an interest in electrical theory and electronics. Things
like that.

I wrote personal letters to a few people remarking on how their lives
had touched mine. It was however so few people considering the number
of people who have generously contributed to the richness of my life.
I could never get around all of them.

So I'd to thank people here on asd in general for providing me with
the opportunity to share with them in tackling our joint challenges.
ASD is special. There are so many ways different people contribute.
Some with empathy. Some with common sense. Some with news clippings.
Some with the latest learned research that I struggle to reduce to
something that is easy to understand. Most of all to the newbies who
keep us fresh and our discussions relevant.

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Alan S

2007-07-04 07:34:37 UTC

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:21:38 +1200, Quentin Grady

Post by Quentin Grady
So I'd to thank people here on asd in general for providing me with
the opportunity to share with them in tackling our joint challenges.

Thanks to you Quentin. You're an inspiration to us all.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
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latest: Kuranda Skyrail near Cairns
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
latest: Ki Si Ming

Quentin Grady

2007-07-05 05:53:03 UTC

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Post by Alan S
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:21:38 +1200, Quentin Grady

Post by Quentin Grady
So I'd to thank people here on asd in general for providing me with
the opportunity to share with them in tackling our joint challenges.

Thanks to you Quentin. You're an inspiration to us all.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.

G'day G'day Alan,

The bottom line is it's something we all have to be passionate
about. Then it works.

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

johnniemccoy@

2007-07-04 03:20:41 UTC

First of all, thanks for the interest in our national holiday. We don't have
(although some families may) a triditional home/family meal for this day.
The get-together aspect is usually a cook out or picnic. Outdoor BBQ's are
the norm. There is no special big sporting event for this day but many local
or community groups sponser them informally. A lot of businesses go on as
usual although there are many that give employees the day off. Evening
fireworks are the center of the day's celabration and are produced mostly by
professionals. Depending on the part of the country and the local laws
concerning fireworks, many individuals light off as many as they can afford,
also. For most of us, not all of course, it never crosses our minds, during
the day, what we're actually celebrating.... just that we have a "good time"
day called the 4th of July. You rarely hear it referred to as "Independence
Day" except by the news or at formally organized events. Ask most of us why
we're not at work and we say, "Cause it's the 4th of July."

John

Quentin Grady

2007-07-04 06:30:57 UTC

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Post by johnniemccoy@
First of all, thanks for the interest in our national holiday. We don't have
(although some families may) a triditional home/family meal for this day.
The get-together aspect is usually a cook out or picnic. Outdoor BBQ's are
the norm. There is no special big sporting event for this day but many local
or community groups sponser them informally. A lot of businesses go on as
usual although there are many that give employees the day off. Evening
fireworks are the center of the day's celabration and are produced mostly by
professionals. Depending on the part of the country and the local laws
concerning fireworks, many individuals light off as many as they can afford,
also. For most of us, not all of course, it never crosses our minds, during
the day, what we're actually celebrating.... just that we have a "good time"
day called the 4th of July. You rarely hear it referred to as "Independence
Day" except by the news or at formally organized events. Ask most of us why
we're not at work and we say, "Cause it's the 4th of July."
John

G'day G'day John,

Thanks for your delightful description. I love the way you get to the
heart of the matter for the average person with the comment "You
rarely hear it referred to as "Independence Day" except by the news or
formal organised events." We have days like that. For someone
outside the country it is more difficult to gauge what people really
do and what the news media present.

BTW. You didn't mention the 1812 overture. <grin>

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Flying Rat

2007-07-04 06:54:17 UTC

well it is the morning of the 4th here, so should be just about the 4th
in most of the 48 states on the mainland, so Happy Fourth to you all.

Ratty

Will, T2

2007-07-04 11:55:32 UTC

Post by Flying Rat
well it is the morning of the 4th here, so should be just about the 4th
in most of the 48 states on the mainland, so Happy Fourth to you all.
Ratty

I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....

Have a great day!

Will, T2

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2007-07-04 12:11:15 UTC

Post by Will, T2
I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....
Have a great day!

May you be blessed on this day as well.

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed:

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Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
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Cardiologist

Andy is Evil

2007-07-04 16:05:38 UTC

Post by Will, T2
I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....
Have a great day!

May you be blessed on this day as well.

And may Andrew finally overcome his personal prideful demon which acts as
Andrew's personal unholy ghost so that he no longer perpetuates his lies.

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percy

2007-07-04 21:34:35 UTC

Post by Will, T2
I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....
Have a great day!

May you be blessed on this day as well.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Press.asp
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
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Cardiologist

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2007-07-04 21:42:52 UTC

Post by Will, T2
I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....
Have a great day!

May you be blessed on this day as well.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Press.asp
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Sad to read that you feel especially abused by the truth, Who is LORD
Jesus Christ, today.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
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Cardiologist

Mark T

2007-07-04 22:32:53 UTC

I would like to donate a tithe (10%) that there might be FOOD in the
church's STOREHOUSE.

As tithing was only ever of LIVESTOCK and PRODUCE ... and I have neither, my
tithe consists of: the plants and animals in my suburban property:

- cockroaches
- mice
- rats
- fleas
- head lice
- weeds
- bindis
- gum leaves

I have just over a tonne of tithes for the last year. Where at your church
would you like me to dump it?

Waiting eagerly to pay my tithes.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A total list of bible passages mentioning tithing:

OLD TESTAMENT Genesis 14:20 Genesis 28:22 Leviticus 27: 30 - 32 Numbers 18:
21 - 28 Deuteronomy 12: 6 - 27 Deuteronomy 14: 22 - 29 Deuteronomy 26 : 1 -
15 2 Chronicles 31: 5 - 21 Nehemiah 10: 37 - 39 Nehemiah 12: 44 - 47
Nehemiah 13: 4 - 13 Proverbs 3: 9 - 10 Amos 4: 4 Malachi 3: 8 12

APOCRYPHA Tobit 1: 6 - 8

NEW TESTAMENT Matthew 23: 23 Luke ll: 42 Luke 18:12 1 Corinthians 0: 13
Hebrews 7: 1 - 10

It is often argued that tithing was before the law and is therefore binding
to New Testament Christians. The only two instances of tithing before the
law was given do not support this claim.

GENESIS 14:20 The tithe given here was a tithe of the spoils of war only
(Check Hebrews 7:4)

GENESIS 28:22 This was Jacob's promise to God and is not binding to
Christians. (If it is binding, is Jacob's pillar still God's house?)

Tithing. under the law, was only of animals and crops. (Lev 27:30-32; Deut
14:22-29; 2 Chron 31:5-6; Neh 10:37-39; Neh 13:5,12)

Tithes were eaten as food.( Num 18:31; Deut 12:17; Deut 14:23, 26, 29; Deut
26:12,14,; 2 Chron 31:10)

A FAVOURITE TEXT is Malachi 3:10. Read it carefully:

"Bring the whole tithe into the STOREHOUSE, that there may be FOOD in my
house." (New International Version)

This statement is about FOOD NOT MONEY. It is about storage of food in a
storehouse not storage of money in a bank account. (See also Neh 10:37-39)

In addition there are THREE DIFFERENT TITHES - all of animals and crops:

1 A Tithe For Levites. (Num 18:21-24; Neh 10:36-39; Neh 12:44-48)

This included the musicians. singers and gatekeepers. 1 Chron 15:16; 1 Chron
16:42; Neh 12:45-47) It also included the babies, wives. sons and daughters
of the Levites who ministered. (2 Chron 31:18)

2 A Tithe Of The Tithe For The Lord's Offering. (Num 18:26-28; Neh 10:36

Neh 12:44-48)

This was to be given to Aaron or the priests.

3 A Tithe Of The Tithe Every Three Years For The Levites, Aliens Fatherless
And Widows. (Deut 14:28-29; Deut 26:12-14)

Even if these were tithes of money (which they weren't) the people of Israel
in Old Testament times would only give 12% in taxes at the most since the
tithe was the only Government/Church tax. Also, if we count eleven tribes
apart from the Levites (Ephraim and Mannassah being the two half tribes that
make up Joseph) then the Levites would receive 110% of the average person's
earnings. That is 8% of the community in full time ministry supported by the
other 92%

In the New Testament only those under the law are mentioned as having
tithed. (Matt23:23; Luke 11:42; Luke 18:12). The Jerusalem Council's letter
to Gentile believers (ie us!) does not mention it either. (Acts 15:23-29)

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2007-07-05 00:29:28 UTC

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/566d24054da0322e?

I would like to donate a tithe (10%) that there might be FOOD in the
church's STOREHOUSE.

You remind me of the sorcerer who offered money to Christ's disciples
to buy the power of the Holy Spirit.

The answer is "no."

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

ur_droll

2007-07-05 01:48:53 UTC

On Jul 5, 12:29 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/566d24054da0322e?

I would like to donate a tithe (10%) that there might be FOOD in the
church's STOREHOUSE.

You remind me of the sorcerer who offered money to Christ's disciples
to buy the power of the Holy Spirit.

You remind me of a bucket of shit

Irv Hyatt

2007-07-05 01:58:16 UTC

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/566d24054da0322e?

I would like to donate a tithe (10%) that there might be FOOD in the
church's STOREHOUSE.

You remind me of the sorcerer who offered money to Christ's disciples
to buy the power of the Holy Spirit.

Oh, so you were there?

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
The answer is "no."
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

Ferd Farkel

2007-07-05 16:39:48 UTC

On Jul 4, 8:29 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/566d24054da0322e?

I would like to donate a tithe (10%) that there might be FOOD in the
church's STOREHOUSE.

You remind me of the sorcerer who offered money to Christ's disciples
to buy the power of the Holy Spirit.
The answer is "no."

Aww, come on. I'll throw in the dead squirrel my chimney sweep
pulled from his vacuum cleaner.

Velvet Elvis

2007-07-05 22:25:14 UTC

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:29:28 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/566d24054da0322e?

I would like to donate a tithe (10%) that there might be FOOD in the
church's STOREHOUSE.

You remind me of the sorcerer who offered money to Christ's disciples
to buy the power of the Holy Spirit.
The answer is "no."

Coincidentally, the same answer Jebus gives you every day when you pray for
the decimation of alt.flame.jesus.christ. and alt.atheism

----------------------------------
If you want a country run by religion, move to Iran

Father Haskell

2007-07-10 21:08:28 UTC

On Jul 4, 8:29 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/566d24054da0322e?

I would like to donate a tithe (10%) that there might be FOOD in the
church's STOREHOUSE.

You remind me of the sorcerer who offered money to Christ's disciples
to buy the power of the Holy Spirit.
The answer is "no."

Good man, always hold out until you get a better price.

~tanya

2007-07-05 15:53:27 UTC

Post by Mark T
I have just over a tonne of tithes for the last year. Where at your church
would you like me to dump it?
Waiting eagerly to pay my tithes.

that was funny as hell.

i was all thinkin'.. "dude's serious, he's gonna give his shit ta
god."... then tha zinger. ok, i'm easy, and it cracked me tha fuck
UP !
i gotta total list'ah quotes from "True Romance."

are we even? cuz i can pull out tha big guns with Willie Wonka and
tha Chocolate Factory....

i swear, i'm down !

STOP quotin' tha bible, it's annoyin'.

ya think ole scooter's'ah sinnah? or cuz he got'ah longer leash on
terra firma, ya think god's gonna come up off'ah them "ULTRA SUEDE
DOGGIE FASHIONABLE ACCESSORIES ?" price?

yanno, people just wanna get paid...

i have 16 words for you kredik kard victims:

NAH GO SHE ATE.
NAH GO SHE ATE.
NAH GO SHE ATE.
NAH GO SHE ATE

(what happened to location location location?)

ahhhhhh, tha INTERNET !

of course, how terribly silly'ah me.

xoxoxoxo

~tanya

~tanya

2007-07-10 11:16:58 UTC

On Jul 4, 4:42?pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

LONG TIME NO SEE, ANDAROONIE !

~tanya (wants ta hear "choppin' block" stories.)

hehhehee

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2007-07-10 13:54:15 UTC

Post by ~tanya
LONG TIME NO SEE, ANDAROONIE !

Actually, we have never seen each other.

Post by ~tanya
~tanya (wants ta hear "choppin' block" stories.)

You'll have to buy the book:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed, dear friend Tanya.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

~tanya

2007-07-10 16:06:27 UTC

On Jul 10, 8:54?am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Post by ~tanya
LONG TIME NO SEE, ANDAROONIE !

Actually, we have never seen each other.

seems ya ain't seen many that care to repeat that experience.

(but then agin i just calls 'em as i'm told 'em.)

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

OOPS ! WHAT HAPPENED TO YER LIST'AH CREDENTIALS?

::poofed?::

now go on'n gas up that Neon. yer late fer work.

lalalalalalala

~t

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2007-07-10 16:55:16 UTC

Post by ~tanya
LONG TIME NO SEE, ANDAROONIE !

Actually, we have never seen each other.

seems ya ain't seen many that care to repeat that experience.
(but then agin i just calls 'em as i'm told 'em.)

You would be wiser to not believe everything you hear but believe more
what you read especially if it is written in the Bible.

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

OOPS ! WHAT HAPPENED TO YER LIST'AH CREDENTIALS?

Find out here:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

Velvet Elvis

2007-07-10 19:52:37 UTC

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:55:16 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Post by ~tanya
LONG TIME NO SEE, ANDAROONIE !

Actually, we have never seen each other.

seems ya ain't seen many that care to repeat that experience.
(but then agin i just calls 'em as i'm told 'em.)

You would be wiser to not believe everything you hear but believe more
what you read especially if it is written in the Bible.

You believe in talking donkeys and 600 year old humans?

---------------------------------------------------------
Making fun of born-again Christians is like hunting dairy cows
with a high powered rifle and scope.

P.J. O'Rourke

~tanya

2007-07-10 20:50:51 UTC

On Jul 10, 11:55?am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

hallerluyer, now where's them credentials?

that's'an online self-indulgent seminar.

WHERE'S YER EMORY RAT'AH TAT TAT CREDENTIALS?

they're somehow missing.

OH WELL, stick em back up there agin, i'm sure it was'an oversight.

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.

be unembarrassed to drive'ah Neon...

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

he CAN lay one one'ah gal, i tell ya.

.......

and what were them Emory links agin????

put'em out there one more time, wouldja?

~tanya (Hardiologist)

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2007-07-10 21:23:30 UTC

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

hallerluyer, now where's them credentials?

On the web site.

Post by ~tanya
that's'an online self-indulgent seminar.

No.

Post by ~tanya
WHERE'S YER EMORY RAT'AH TAT TAT CREDENTIALS?
they're somehow missing.

Just checked... still there.

Post by ~tanya
OH WELL, stick em back up there agin, i'm sure it was'an oversight.

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.

be unembarrassed to drive'ah Neon...

My wife and daughter like it fine for the short trips around town
because saving gas is good for the environment.

Would be embarrassed to drive anything larger these days.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

Velvet Elvis

2007-07-10 21:49:26 UTC

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:23:30 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

hallerluyer, now where's them credentials?

On the web site.

Post by ~tanya
that's'an online self-indulgent seminar.

No.

Post by ~tanya
WHERE'S YER EMORY RAT'AH TAT TAT CREDENTIALS?
they're somehow missing.

Just checked... still there.

Post by ~tanya
OH WELL, stick em back up there agin, i'm sure it was'an oversight.

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.

be unembarrassed to drive'ah Neon...

My wife and daughter like it fine for the short trips around town
because saving gas is good for the environment.

Read: "Since my legal troubles, I've had to resort to living off the royalties
from the 3 copies of my book that have sold so far. A Neon is the best I can
afford. But on the bright side, It'll be paid off in 5 more years."

----------------------------------
If you want a country run by religion, move to Iran

~tanya

2007-07-11 07:29:01 UTC

Post by Velvet Elvis
Read: "Since my legal troubles, I've had to resort to living off the royalties
from the 3 copies of my book that have sold so far. A Neon is the best I can
afford. But on the bright side, It'll be paid off in 5 more years."

or we could "lowwwwwwwwwwwww-ride" him right akross tha border inta "a
dollar a day keeps tha flies away-land",

(is it considered slavery, ta make yer "wife" ::wink wink:: keep her
legs crossed for that long'ah period of time?)

SHOO !

(while tha cat's away, tha mice will play)

now THERE's a $2.00 visual... (overtime, yanno.)

that gal can really put outta spread. IT'S'AH PICNIC !

FIRE ANTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

welllllllllllll, no pain no gain.

sooooooooooooooooooooooo........ BUH BYE.

~tanya

2007-07-11 07:15:36 UTC

On Jul 10, 4:23?pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

hallerluyer, now where's them credentials?

On the web site.

ya don't spew 'em out on here anymore? HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Just checked... still there.

why ya stop blurtin' em out in yer posts?

ANY REASON???????

Post by ~tanya
OH WELL, stick em back up there agin, i'm sure it was'an oversight.

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.

NAH, i'm diggin' bein'ah tattle tale.

Post by ~tanya
be unembarrassed to drive'ah Neon...

My wife and daughter like it fine for the short trips around town
because saving gas is good for the environment.

yer lucky. i ain't quite that low maintenance. SEEEEEE? ya could be
with tha likes'ah MEEEEEEEEE... and i don't settle for substandard,
that's reserved for yer wife and....... daughter. (yes.... tell her
that when all her friends are vacationing? that yer saving the
environment in georgia.)

pitiful.

now WHERE is that formerly highly exposed Emory link, the formerly
POSTED Emory link?

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Would be embarrassed to drive anything larger these days.

GOOD ONE, BUT unt uh . a quaint lil mercedes ain't big.

(MAYBEEEEEEEE tha embarrassment would enter tha picture when financing
entered tha picture cuz ...... pshaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah........
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii don't quite imagine debt/income ratio could pull
off'ah fast one in tha subway under'ah trenchcoat, much less with MR.
BANKER !!!!!!!!

SOOOOOOOOOOOO... shoo.

k?

BUH bye.

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

ummmmmmmmmmmm ........ five minutes ago.

BUH bye

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

::lookin' around::

was BUH bye unclear?

BUH BYE.

and HAPPY SPRING BREAK !!!!!!!!! (please don't let her be seen in
tha port-a--potty attemptin' ta flush. even KOA is prone ta show up in
tha 2008 high school annual in tha "what i did on my summer vacation"
section.

...now where were we.

pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahhhhhhhhhhhhhh... yeah.

BUH BYE.

~tanya

2007-07-11 06:53:01 UTC

On Jul 10, 11:55?am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Post by ~tanya
LONG TIME NO SEE, ANDAROONIE !

Actually, we have never seen each other.

amen. (ain't for lack'ah ya beggin', tho, is it?)

Post by ~tanya
(but then agin i just calls 'em as i'm told 'em.)

You would be wiser to not believe everything you hear but believe more
what you read especially if it is written in the Bible.

OH ! silly me. i listen ta real voices.

the good folks at Emory don't believe everything THEY hear...

(i'll let'em know ya have no faith in their wisdom, tho.)

and funny. their cardiologists seem to have more faith in scientific
evidence than tha biblical written word, i'll let'm know their
evidentiary findings are'ah tad off base.... per the above.

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

~tanya
(miss america)

Post by ~tanya
OOPS ! WHAT HAPPENED TO YER LIST'AH CREDENTIALS?

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

is that written in tha bible?

and i said C R E D E N T I A L S.

PRESS ONE FOR ENGLISH !

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

YA DUN SAID THAT.

now where's them credentials !

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2007-07-11 13:17:40 UTC

Here are some on-line resources that should help you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

http://EmoryCardiology.com

http://ABChung.LiveJournal.com

http://TheWellnessFoundation.com

http://TheHealthFair.com

http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit

http://HeartMDPhD.com

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

Juan Sánchez

2007-07-11 13:21:33 UTC

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease
http://EmoryCardiology.com
http://ABChung.LiveJournal.com
http://TheWellnessFoundation.com
http://TheHealthFair.com
http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit
http://HeartMDPhD.com
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

Can she be saved?

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2007-07-11 15:46:32 UTC

Can she be saved?

"With men this is impossible, but with GOD all things are possible."
-- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)

Amen.

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

Irv Hyatt

2007-07-12 22:07:34 UTC

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Can she be saved?

"With men this is impossible, but with GOD all things are possible."

I'll bet that's why you didn't get to keep your lic. to practice.
You just stood in front ot patients waiting for god to save them,
when you... a sort of man, just stood there waiting.

-- LORD Jesus Christ (Matthew 19:26)

Amen.

Be hungry... be healthy... be blessed.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

Father Haskell

2007-07-15 23:47:57 UTC

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Can she be saved?

Voyeurism, reportedly. Something about him whacking his
pee pee while watching his fat patients strip through a peep hole.

St. Jackanapes

2007-07-17 02:35:10 UTC

Father Haskell held us spellbound with...

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Can she be saved?

Voyeurism, reportedly. Something about him whacking his
pee pee while watching his fat patients strip through a peep hole.

Being a skinny Oriental, when he was finally exposed to fat Caucasian
females he had an erotic epiphany, and couldn't get enough of ogling all
those folds and crevices. He became a voyeur and a Peeping Andy. His
addiction was overwhelming. He had a choice, quit his job in Florida, or
serve time and become a registered sex offender. We know what he chose.
That's when Andy found God, just like every other garden variety
criminal and addict.

--
St. Jackanapes
http://www.jackanapes.ws
==================================

Irv Hyatt

2007-07-17 13:46:30 UTC

"St. Jackanapes" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:***@news.alt.net...

Father Haskell held us spellbound with...

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Can she be saved?

Voyeurism, reportedly. Something about him whacking his
pee pee while watching his fat patients strip through a peep hole.

--
St. Jackanapes
http://www.jackanapes.ws
==================================

g***@consolidated.net

2007-07-17 18:03:37 UTC

Guy posted a tongue in cheek thing which he knew would
cause some cackling and feathers up. A few took
it seriously.
******
I am not a fan of chung or his religion. I think his fixed tag
is unnecessary but he is not the only one that does this
My ISP attaches their crap to my posts. I will change
that soon.

Anyone that had a good philosophy does not read these forced opinions.

It is not proper to play junior High games. Just ignore
their "dribble". If you consider dribble.

I had enough of the crusaders. I had to go to Eastern Kentucky
to finish High school;

I saw these ???"??" come on their jetneys and large tents.

Then hauled away so much of the assets of the dirt poor people.

So many of this type are still around. The are known to take
liberties with many women. Then get on TV with gross
hypocrisy.

But the issue is posting on a group intended to serve all diabetics.
If it is misused by narrow and selfish people we all lose.

The only issue I have with Chung is the alleged waste of medical
stringing. but things happen.

A close friend about my age went to medical school
and was an established. with a good reputation. Then
he developed a heart condition. All over.

I know of no way to get Dr Chung to change. Several have tried
to encourage him to stick to medicine.

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Alan S

2007-07-17 22:36:11 UTC

Post by g***@consolidated.net
I know of no way to get Dr Chung to change.

Try ignoring him - if you haven't got killfiles just click
on "next". Every time you answer him or comment on him you
feed his obsession.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management

Will, T2

2007-07-17 22:46:14 UTC

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:36:11 +1000, Alan S

Post by Alan S

Post by g***@consolidated.net
I know of no way to get Dr Chung to change.

Try ignoring him - if you haven't got killfiles just click
on "next". Every time you answer him or comment on him you
feed his obsession.

That's very good advice... We as individuals can change no one but
ourselves. If a particular poster is annoying to you, just ignore, or
KF.... It really is that easy, and you are done.

On the other hand, be careful who you KF. Someday, you may wonder what
you are missing ;-)

There are unquestionably some who I KF in a flash. Others, I am more
cautious about. I never want to KF someone because of a silly argument
on here, or over some stupid political debate, or emotional issue that
is of passing interest, and more than likely insignificant. I KF only
those who somehow infringe upon my sensibilities in a more basic and
fundamental way, or those who prove themselves insufferably and
rabidly aggressive over time....

Anyway, these are just a few thoughts that may not be worth
anything.... or they may make a difference to someone out there.

Will, T2

Frank t2

2007-07-18 08:03:45 UTC

Alan, Forte Agent has killfiling ...

Post by Alan S

Post by g***@consolidated.net
I know of no way to get Dr Chung to change.

Try ignoring him - if you haven't got killfiles just click
on "next". Every time you answer him or comment on him you
feed his obsession.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
Everything in Moderation - Except Laughter.
--
http://loraltraveloz.blogspot.com/
latest: Mossman Gorge in the Daintree Rainforest
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/
latest: Self-Testing and Type 2 Management

Father Haskell

2007-07-18 03:44:53 UTC

Post by St. Jackanapes
Father Haskell held us spellbound with...

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Can she be saved?

Voyeurism, reportedly. Something about him whacking his
pee pee while watching his fat patients strip through a peep hole.

Andy found god, all right. He found him in a seedy downtown adult
movie theater, after Andy hung an "on call, be back in two hours"
sign
on his office door and fired up his mighty AMC Pacer. God offered
to share his box of Raisinettes and they hit it off like old pals.
The
rest is history.

Velvet Elvis

2007-07-18 19:06:27 UTC

Post by St. Jackanapes
Father Haskell held us spellbound with...

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Can she be saved?

Voyeurism, reportedly. Something about him whacking his
pee pee while watching his fat patients strip through a peep hole.

That god is quite a joker. He told Chung they were Raisinettes, but we know
better.

Father Haskell

2007-07-19 14:14:10 UTC

Post by Velvet Elvis

Post by St. Jackanapes
Father Haskell held us spellbound with...

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Can she be saved?

Voyeurism, reportedly. Something about him whacking his
pee pee while watching his fat patients strip through a peep hole.

That god is quite a joker. He told Chung they were Raisinettes, but we know
better.

That wasn't butter on the popcorn, either.

Better Chung finds out late than never.

Velvet Elvis

2007-07-10 19:51:51 UTC

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:54:15 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Post by ~tanya
LONG TIME NO SEE, ANDAROONIE !

Actually, we have never seen each other.

Post by ~tanya
~tanya (wants ta hear "choppin' block" stories.)

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

They should put it right along side of the bible - in the fiction section.

~tanya

2007-07-10 21:11:52 UTC

NO CAN DO, WHITE BOY !

i hear tell money's tha root of all evil and i wouldn't wanna fuck up
yer groove on yer way to tha pearly gate with'ah dead prez'dent.

i've nothing if not high regard for yer destiny.

<<<<mother teresa in drag.

Post by Velvet Elvis

Post by Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

now how bout them links, super duper hero'ah heaven?

Post by Velvet Elvis
They should put it right along side of the bible - in the fiction section.

the bible's TRUE though. it HAS ta be. I REFUSE TO THINK JESUS IS
ANY LESS HOT THAN THE BIBLE PORTRAYS HIM, CUZ DAMN !!!!!!!
(jezuskistonahcross)... that's one kick-ass fantasy boy, i tell ya.
SO IT'S TRUE !!!!!!!!!

~tanya <<<<just'ah tad desperate but hides it well>>>>

Irv Hyatt

2007-07-11 05:27:05 UTC

Post by Velvet Elvis
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:54:15 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"

Post by ~tanya
LONG TIME NO SEE, ANDAROONIE !

Actually, we have never seen each other.

Post by ~tanya
~tanya (wants ta hear "choppin' block" stories.)

http://HeartMDPhD.com/PressRelease

They should put it right along side of the bible - in the fiction section.

He's pandering god for money... good good xtian chung foo mein

Glenn

2007-07-10 21:31:03 UTC

Post by Will, T2
I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....
Have a great day!

May you be blessed on this day as well.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Press.asp
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

Percy, when you respond to this person, please remove ACC,

Thanks...

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2007-07-10 21:41:12 UTC

Post by Glenn

Post by Will, T2
I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....
Have a great day!

May you be blessed on this day as well.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Press.asp

Percy, when you respond to this person, please remove ACC,

ACC appropriately added back for Christian content per the wonderful
guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Clearly the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/Convicts

Most assuredly, without doubt, I know HIM to be kind, just, and right.

Post by Glenn
Thanks...

You are welcome, Glenn.

Redirecting the thanks to GOD so that we will both be that much more
blessed.

Feeling hungrier as a write this so that I know I am being blessed
right now.

"Blessed are you who hunger now, for you will be satisfied." -- LORD
Jesus Christ (Luke 6:21)

Amen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD

2007-07-04 22:27:43 UTC

Post by Will, T2
I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....
Have a great day!

May you be blessed on this day as well.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Press.asp
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Sad to note that you are still feeling abused by the truth, Who is
LORD Jesus Christ.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ.

Amen.

May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.

Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist

Archie Leach

2007-07-04 23:02:27 UTC

Post by Will, T2
I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....
Have a great day!

May you be blessed on this day as well.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/Press.asp
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,

Sad to note that you are still feeling abused by the truth, Who is
LORD Jesus Christ.
"I am the way, the truth, and the life." -- LORD Jesus Christ.
Amen.
May GOD bless you in HIS mighty way making you healthier (hungrier)
than ever.
Prayerfully in Jesus' awesome love,
Andrew <><

I felt rather abused reading the excerpt of your alleged Near Death
Experience.

Flying Rat

2007-07-04 15:22:11 UTC

In article <***@4ax.com>, ***@cox.net
says...

Post by Will, T2

Post by Flying Rat
well it is the morning of the 4th here, so should be just about the 4th
in most of the 48 states on the mainland, so Happy Fourth to you all.
Ratty

I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....
Have a great day!
Will, T2

I believe it was something to do with being at a party and not knowing
when to leave.....

anyway best wishes to all the US contingent here. Even we have our
little events over here to 'celebrate' the Fourth and no doubt a fair
few beers will be raised in toast to the USA tonight.

Ratty

2007-07-04 19:10:48 UTC

Post by Will, T2
I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....

heh heh -- that can be taken in two ways.....
:-)
bj

Frank t2

2007-07-06 22:41:51 UTC

Post by Will, T2
I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....

And if it weren't for France, Americans would be speaking English now !

Will, T2

2007-07-06 22:47:10 UTC

Post by Frank t2

Post by Will, T2
I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....

And if it weren't for France, Americans would be speaking English now !

Very clever, Frank, and probably true in several ways ;-)

Will, T2

Quentin Grady

2007-07-08 02:32:13 UTC

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Post by Frank t2

Post by Will, T2
I wish everyone a happy Fourth, Ratty, and especially you Brits. If it
weren't for Britain, well, there probably would not be a USA to start
with....

And if it weren't for France, Americans would be speaking English now !

Subtle Frank,

I'm often amazed at how countries end up speaking one language or
another. Various European countries tried to lay claim to New Zealand
in the early days.

We could easily have been a French colony. As one explores the early
history of our country is becomes obvious that NZ could even have been
claimed by Spain. There appears to be reasonable proof that a Spanish
expedition made it here from South America and over Wintered. However
it was a private adventurer's exploration hoping for profit and not
colonization.

Other adventurers are recorded by the local Maori as having made it
here. What they didn't do is make it back. Such is the fickleness of
fate.

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Alan S

2007-07-04 04:47:13 UTC

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:52:21 +1200, Quentin Grady

I'll second that. Have a wonderful Independence Day.

Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.

Davybear

2007-07-04 04:47:56 UTC

July seems to be a popular month for Independence days.

Burundi - Independence Day July 1
Canada - Canada Day July 1
Ghana - Republic Day July 1
Rwanda - Independence Day July 1
Somalia - Independence Day July 1
United States of America - Independence Day July 4
Venezuela - Independence Day July 5
Malawi - Independence Day July 6
Argentina - Independence Day July 9
Bahamas - Independence Day July 10
Mongolia - Revolution Day July 11
Sao Tome & Principe - Independence Day July 12
France - Bastille Day July 14
Iraq - Republic Day July 14
South Korea - Constitution Day July 17
Colombia - Independence Day July 20
Belgium - Independence Day July 21
Poland - Liberation Day July 22
Egypt - National Day July 23
Ethiopia - Emperor's Birthday July 23
Liberia - Independence Day July 26
Maldive Islands - Independence Day July 26
Peru - Independence Day July 28

Quentin Grady

2007-07-04 06:49:37 UTC

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Post by Davybear
uly seems to be a popular month for Independence days.
Burundi - Independence Day July 1
Canada - Canada Day July 1
Ghana - Republic Day July 1
Rwanda - Independence Day July 1
Somalia - Independence Day July 1
United States of America - Independence Day July 4
Venezuela - Independence Day July 5
Malawi - Independence Day July 6
Argentina - Independence Day July 9
Bahamas - Independence Day July 10
Mongolia - Revolution Day July 11
Sao Tome & Principe - Independence Day July 12
France - Bastille Day July 14
Iraq - Republic Day July 14
South Korea - Constitution Day July 17
Colombia - Independence Day July 20
Belgium - Independence Day July 21
Poland - Liberation Day July 22
Egypt - National Day July 23
Ethiopia - Emperor's Birthday July 23
Liberia - Independence Day July 26
Maldive Islands - Independence Day July 26
Peru - Independence Day July 28

G'day G'day Davybear,

Fantastic. Something I'd never considered. Thank you,

Best wishes,

--
Quentin Grady ^ ^ /
New Zealand, >#,#< [
/ \ /\
"... and the blind dog was leading."

http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/quentin

Nicky

2007-07-04 08:18:26 UTC

Post by Davybear
July seems to be a popular month for Independence days.
Burundi - Independence Day July 1
Canada - Canada Day July 1
Ghana - Republic Day July 1
Rwanda - Independence Day July 1
Somalia - Independence Day July 1
United States of America - Independence Day July 4
Venezuela - Independence Day July 5
Malawi - Independence Day July 6
Argentina - Independence Day July 9
Bahamas - Independence Day July 10
Mongolia - Revolution Day July 11
Sao Tome & Principe - Independence Day July 12
France - Bastille Day July 14
Iraq - Republic Day July 14
South Korea - Constitution Day July 17
Colombia - Independence Day July 20
Belgium - Independence Day July 21
Poland - Liberation Day July 22
Egypt - National Day July 23
Ethiopia - Emperor's Birthday July 23
Liberia - Independence Day July 26
Maldive Islands - Independence Day July 26
Peru - Independence Day July 28

Heh - all over the place, too, not just a summer effect in the
Northern hemisphere - how fascinating : )

Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

Davybear

2007-07-04 08:49:17 UTC

Post by Nicky

Heh - all over the place, too, not just a summer effect in the
Northern hemisphere - how fascinating : )
Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.6% BMI 25

If you want a month by month breakdown than look here.
http://www.aglobalworld.com:80/country-independence-day.php

Wes Groleau

2007-07-04 12:55:04 UTC

Post by Davybear

Post by Davybear
July seems to be a popular month for Independence days.

If you want a month by month breakdown than look here.
http://www.aglobalworld.com:80/country-independence-day.php

Are they easy to count by month?
I declined to accept their cookie
and so they refuse to show their page.
(Actually, whatever they are doing has
frozen my browser.)

--
Wes Groleau
----
The man who reads nothing at all is better educated
than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.
-- Thomas Jefferson

Chris Malcolm

2007-07-04 08:19:49 UTC

Post by Davybear

July seems to be a popular month for Independence days.
Burundi - Independence Day July 1
Canada - Canada Day July 1
Ghana - Republic Day July 1
Rwanda - Independence Day July 1
Somalia - Independence Day July 1
United States of America - Independence Day July 4
Venezuela - Independence Day July 5
Malawi - Independence Day July 6
Argentina - Independence Day July 9
Bahamas - Independence Day July 10
Mongolia - Revolution Day July 11
Sao Tome & Principe - Independence Day July 12
France - Bastille Day July 14
Iraq - Republic Day July 14
South Korea - Constitution Day July 17
Colombia - Independence Day July 20
Belgium - Independence Day July 21
Poland - Liberation Day July 22
Egypt - National Day July 23
Ethiopia - Emperor's Birthday July 23
Liberia - Independence Day July 26
Maldive Islands - Independence Day July 26
Peru - Independence Day July 28

The nearest Scotland has got to an Independence day so far are two dates.

The opening of the Scottish Parliament (some devolved powers from the
UK parliament) on 1 July 1999.

The opening of the Scottish Parliament on 20th June 2007 with a
minority Scottish Nationalist Govt in power. Since it hasn't a
majority its powers will be curbed by the need to get agreements with
other parties in order to get legislation through. And while that win
does show there's a lot of nationalist feeling in Scotland, I don't
think it's yet as big as the voting suggests.

I think the Scot Nats got a lot of votes because they were the only
party whose candidates talked like intelligent human beings on TV and
radio. The other parties only seem to have trained puppets, trained to
ignore question and repeat the standard party "shut up and listen to
me" answer. What's more, many of the candidates put up the other
parties seem to be embarassingly stupid.

Probably most important, the leader of the Scot Nats, Alec (or Alex)
Salmond, is clearly much smarter than either of the other two party
leaders.

I know it's a very radical and eccentric idea, but I do think some of
the problems of governing a modern nation are difficult enough that
intelligence will turn out to be extremely useful.

--
Chris Malcolm ***@infirmatics.ed.ac.uk DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

Wes Groleau

2007-07-04 12:52:23 UTC

Post by Chris Malcolm
I know it's a very radical and eccentric idea, but I do think some of
the problems of governing a modern nation are difficult enough that
intelligence will turn out to be extremely useful.

I'll agree to that. On the other hand, when I read that
the founders of Mensa only high IQ people should be allowed
in government, I thought, "What an arrogant, elitist
attitude."

And then when I started getting Mensa publications and
saw how incredibly stupid some high IQ people can be, ....

--
Wes Groleau

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable.
-- John F. Kennedy

Will, T2

2007-07-04 13:06:48 UTC

On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 12:52:23 GMT, Wes Groleau

Post by Wes Groleau

I'll agree to that. On the other hand, when I read that
the founders of Mensa only high IQ people should be allowed
in government, I thought, "What an arrogant, elitist
attitude."
And then when I started getting Mensa publications and
saw how incredibly stupid some high IQ people can be, ....

For a time, I used to go to Mensa parties, and while members of Mensa
are undeniably very smart, I noticed that many of them are not
particularly high achievers. Then, I decided that there are many
components to intelligence, and that it is possible to have a very
high IQ, overall, and not be as practically functional as someone
perhaps with a lower IQ, but more well-rounded. Also, very smart
people are subject to the same quirks of psychology as everyone else,
it seems, and I would say that depression and moods are at the top of
the list for many, with the result that lots of smart people have
trouble maintaining healthy relationships. Thus, I would say that,
while intelligence seems to be a most useful attribute for those who
would govern, a certain psychological balance seems to be highly
desirable.... We don't need any more megalomaniacs.

Will, T2

2007-07-04 19:10:48 UTC

Post by Wes Groleau

I'll agree to that. On the other hand, when I read that
the founders of Mensa only high IQ people should be allowed
in government, I thought, "What an arrogant, elitist
attitude."
And then when I started getting Mensa publications and
saw how incredibly stupid some high IQ people can be, ....
--
Wes Groleau

Some very smart people don't seem to have any ordinary sense (common sense,
street sense, people sense, etc.) & I think you need both to run an
organization. And then there's ethical sense, which seems to be in short
supply in some quarters these days.
bj

2007-07-04 18:09:03 UTC

Quintin, Thanks for the good thoughts. Like any holiday some participate and
some don't but the 4th of July is more community driven than most other
holidays. Here is a list of things going on in northern rural Nevada as a
small example.

Carson City
. The RSVP fireworks show in Carson City will start about 9:15 p.m. and is
best seen from Mills Park and is free. Carnival opens at noon.
. Republicans' July Fourth Celebration at 4 p.m., Riech home, 2701 Manhattan
Drive. Annual fundraiser with a Yankee Doodle Hoedown; full Western dinner
and hosted bar, carnival games, palm reading by "Karnac." Tickets are $45
for adults; children 11 and younger are free. Call 841-2142. (note this used
to be a Democratic Party event here held at the city park but after many
years it was decided that it should not be a partisan party on public
property. Note this is at party is at a private home)
. Motor car rides from 10 a.m.-4 p.m., Nevada State Railroad Museum, 2180 S.
Carson St. A special run of the 1926 Edwards Motor Car every 30 minutes.
Fares are $4 for adults; $3 for seniors (65-older), free to children 5 and
younger. Call 687-6953.

Virginia City
. Annual Fourth of July Spectacular, on C Street in downtown Virginia City.
Features parade at noon with Sierra Highlanders Pipe Band, veterans groups,
scouting and 4-H clubs, equestrian groups and more. After the parade, many
saloons have live music; train and trolley will be running; museums open;
face painting; historical characters on the street; 6 p.m. David John and
the Comstock Cowboys perform free at Delta Saloon parking lot, and fireworks
after the concert. Call 847-4386.

Douglas County
. Fourth of July Barbecue Fundraiser, Genoa Volunteer Fire Department. This
inaugural fundraiser features half a chicken, potato, coleslaw and dinner
roll for $10. Beverages are also available for purchase and only 200 dinners
will be sold. Event starts at noon and runs until sold out. Call 782-8696.
. Pops in the Park with the Reno Philharmonic Orchestra. For the 24th year,
the Sierra Philharmonic League will present a free afternoon concert in
Mormon Station State Park. Event runs from noon-6 p.m.

Washoe County
. "Star Spangled Sparks" takes place on Victorian Square in downtown Sparks.
This eighth annual celebration is highlighted by a 20-minute
state-of-the-art pyrotechnic display. Members of the Nevada Air National
Guard will fly a C-130 Hercules aircraft over the event. The fireworks will
begin at approximately 9:45 p.m.

Lake Tahoe
(This area recently (last 10 days) suffered from a devastating forest fire
that destroyed over 200 homes)
. South Shore's Light's on the Lake display, rated one of the top five
firework shows in the country, is dedicated this year to the firefighters
and emergency personnel who fought the Angora fire. Launched offshore a
little after sunset, the fireworks are especially visible from the beaches
from Nevada Beach State Park to Baldwin Beach. The show is choreographed to
patriotic music and simulcast on radio stations KRLT-FM 93.9 and KOWL-AM
1490.
. Tahoe City's celebration begins at 9:30 p.m. at Commons Beach. Prime
viewing spots are from the beach, where family picnics are popular, as well
as various locations throughout town along North Lake Boulevard.
. Incline Village and Crystal Bay festivities culminate with a picnic,
concert and dueling fireworks display at 9 p.m., at the Village Green.
. It's an old-fashioned July Fourth celebration in Truckee with a 10 a.m.
hometown parade in historical downtown, followed by an evening fireworks
display at 9 p.m. at Donner Lake's West End Beach. Tickets must be purchased
in advance, as beach access is limited to local residents and homeowners.

In addition many have family BBQ's (what we will do... our menu being BBQ
chicken, potato salad, fruit salads, iced tea and lemon aid, and home made
ice cream and finished off by watching the fire works from our porch.), home
flags are flown, many go camping, ice cold beer becomes a food group, many
hot dogs and hamburgers are ruinded by bad cooks :-) and it goes on and on.
Almost all government services and large corporations are closed for the day
along with banks.

It is a fun time!

Here is a link to a Reno newspaper that covers the day locally and
nationally.

http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070704/NEWS10/707040431/1002

And a link to an editorial that may explain to some what the day is about.
http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070704/OPED01/707040398/1002

I am not a blind American patriot but I do love this day.

Quentin Grady

2007-07-05 05:08:15 UTC