Post by Alan BakerPost by Bob LathamPost by BigbirdPost by Bob LathamPost by EdmundPost by EdmundPost by DexPost by EdmundPost by Yousuf KhanPost by Nomen NescioHe wants people to tear down statues of white heroes
with links to slavery....
Good, so what's wrong with that?
Nothing, always a good idea trying to erase and change the
history :-)
Post by EdmundPost by DexSo the toppling of the statue of Stalin in Hungry or Saddam in
Iraq somehow re-wrote history?
Indeed not but in those cases they were a people suddenly freed
from tyranny and taking revenge on their oppressors. No one is
oppressed in the UK and all UK connections with slavery were
killed in 1833.
Seems the people throwing statues of slavers into the harbour disagree.
well I'll agree they're all wound up but no-one in the UK is
affected by slavery it ended in 1833. It's just an excuse to kick
off that's all.
But people are still affected by racism.
Right, can you give some UK examples please?
Post by Alan BakerBlack people get shot even when unarmed; even when cooperating.
Are we talking UK or US?
In the US I have these figures for 2013 for murders of blacks and
whites per 1,000,000 members of the murdered persons race..
Whites killed by blacks 9.83
Blacks killed by whites 0.77
Whites killed by whits 10.22
Blacks killed by blacks 53.94
The American Bureau of Justice Statistics tells us that Black men
commit more than half of the murders in the country but are only 13%
of the population.
It was indeed awful the way the police officer treated and killed
that man but I understand he has been charged with murder, what more
do people want. In addition this man was a high on drugs and a
criminal who held a gun to a pregnant woman, he was no saint.
So if black lives matter in America what group of people need to sort
this out? I'll wait!
In the UK the majority of blacks get murdered by other blacks. I did
see the figures last week but didn't note them down.
All lives matter and no one group's lives are any more important than
another's otherwise, that it racism.
If The black community wish to prevent black people being murdered
then looking at their own community behaviour would have far more
effect.
Sorry the facts don't match the current lefty agenda.
Post by Alan BakerPost by Bob LathamPost by BigbirdPost by Bob LathamWhat we've had over the last few days is rent-a-mob taking
advantage of trouble in another continent to kick off here
without the slightest justification.
So who do you think is behind funding them?
Well there are some rumours but I don't know anything concrete.
Post by BigbirdI assumed they were just a bunch of hooligans.
Mostly indeed yes, I agree.
Post by BigbirdPost by Bob LathamThe only racial discrimination I am aware of is the BBC
advertising jobs for none whites and various people telling us
how much they hate white people.
Well that is problematic. Does you saying you don't see
discrimination against minorities indicates that you are blind to
it, oblivious or that it doesn't exist?
None of those. I have not seen it since school days. I have worked
with black and asian all my working life, never saw a problem.
Have you ever seen anyone die from... ...measles?
No.
Post by Alan BakerDoes that mean it never happens?
No it doesn't. However, it does mean that in my part of the world it
is very unusual. Indeed in the media the only people I ever hear
making racist comments or showing racists attitudes are always none
whites saying how the hate whites and race baiting.
The white people I see/know just ignore race, a man is a man.
Post by Alan BakerPost by Bob LathamPost by BigbirdHint: it does exist.
Does it, sorry to hear that, where's that then?
Post by BigbirdPost by Bob LathamPost by EdmundWell I see your point I do however think this whole hype is going
Post by Edmundway over the top. Here on TV there was another black man
whining about slavery and they did some research,guess what,
his ancestors belonged to a tribe that enslaved other blacks
and sold them. Hilarious! Where do you want to draw the line,
by women, because Eve eat the apple?
Exactly.
Exactly? Really?
Oh come on this whole thing is madness. There's a black lady in New
York yesterday saying how it will be wonderful when NY is free of the
police. What sort of idiot do you have to be to want to get rid of
the police? It would be a blood bath.
If the UK police were banished the very first thing I would do is
obtain firearms to protect my self and my family.
Post by BigbirdSo what "exactly" is your heritage?
Clearly not white privileged because that would be far to
stereotypical.
Yes, I'm white and proud and I've not harmed or damaged any
person from another race or culture. Where exactly is my white
privilege? I was lucky enough to be born into a civilised UK,
that's it.
I went to school, I got a job, I worked hard all my life to
provide food and shelter. I retired.
Plenty of black and asian people I know have done better than me
but I don't resent that but I resent the idea that I'm privileged.
Do you ever fear that the police officer who pulls you over for a
traffic stop will kill you?
No and I don't believe that people of other races fear that in the UK
either. The states may be another issue.
Post by Alan BakerBlack people fear that, and they are RIGHT to fear it.
In the states I take it?
Maybe so, and it should be definitely be changed but having a riot
and looting shops doesn't to me look like a sensible approach to
stopping police racism. And as most black people get murdered by
other black people, it doesn't look a good way to reduce blacks
getting murdered either.
We all know that in the states things were very bad in the past but
it's getting better but not fast enough I get that. I'm not saying
that there are not rogue racist cops in the US, clearly there are. I
also hope that the full wait of the law deals with cop murderers
until it gets stamped out. However, the chief cause of black people
being murdered is a very long way from being the police.
It seems to be the stated intention of BLM is to rid the USA of the
police. We're told by black people this would be Nirvana. Really? You
have to question the sanity of anyone who thinks removing the police
would reduce people of any race being killed.
Post by Alan BakerThat is privilege you have.
Good grief, you really believe that don't you.
Clearly you are too lefty and woke for me to converse any further
with, just look at the figures for blacks getting murdered here or in
the states and ask who is responsible. QED.
Bob.