Channel 4 News Brexit Debate: Largest poll ever found an 8% lead for Remain

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-ref
erendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Nigel Farage was rather subdued - and really only came to life to
condemn Theresa May for not really trying to get a proper Brexit.

Those two MPs were a disgrace. The Conservative chap's main point was
that we should plough on, and respect the result of the now out-of-date
referendum, regardless of how misinformed the electorate were. The
Labour guy was little better, and it was rather difficult to understand
what his real opinions were.

But it will be an hour well-spent to watch it again.

--
Ian

Yellow

2018-11-06 12:47:17 UTC

Nigel Farage was rather subdued - and really only came to life to
condemn Theresa May for not really trying to get a proper Brexit.
Those two MPs were a disgrace. The Conservative chap's main point was
that we should plough on, and respect the result of the now out-of-date
referendum, regardless of how misinformed the electorate were. The
Labour guy was little better, and it was rather difficult to understand
what his real opinions were.
But it will be an hour well-spent to watch it again.

I thought the show was well worth a watch, not just because of the poll
but because as Farage said at the end, he was the only non-audience
member who was there to fight on the side of Brexit while all the others
were *all* remain voters.

Yet the C4 presenter was quite taken aback when this was drawn to his
attention

And that is how it has been for the last 18 months. Drip.... drip....
drip....

So an interesting programme just from that point of view.

But as for the presentation of the voting data - how interesting was
that too and thank god for the commentary from the polling guy who put a
different spin on almost every chart the show presented, including
noting that some of the questions were loaded.

But what was the most interesting was that the presentation of the data
that remain would win another vote.

First, they did not present the number of don't knows, and only told us
the split between those who had an opinion on the day of the survey. And
second, as the poll guy said, they did not weight the information for
the likelihood of people actually turning out to vote and simply assumed
that everyone would.

To be clear - if the poll result had been as presented then fair enough,
but it wasn't and this took the show from an useful look at people's
opinions to a piece of propaganda on behalf of remain as it seemed
someone had made the deliberate decision to mislead.

I thought the EU women was good, and I would liked to have had a whole
show listening to her.

abelard

2018-11-06 13:26:08 UTC

Post by Yellow

Nigel Farage was rather subdued - and really only came to life to
condemn Theresa May for not really trying to get a proper Brexit.
Those two MPs were a disgrace. The Conservative chap's main point was
that we should plough on, and respect the result of the now out-of-date
referendum, regardless of how misinformed the electorate were. The
Labour guy was little better, and it was rather difficult to understand
what his real opinions were.
But it will be an hour well-spent to watch it again.

I thought the show was well worth a watch, not just because of the poll
but because as Farage said at the end, he was the only non-audience
member who was there to fight on the side of Brexit while all the others
were *all* remain voters.
Yet the C4 presenter was quite taken aback when this was drawn to his
attention
And that is how it has been for the last 18 months. Drip.... drip....
drip....
So an interesting programme just from that point of view.
But as for the presentation of the voting data - how interesting was
that too and thank god for the commentary from the polling guy who put a
different spin on almost every chart the show presented, including
noting that some of the questions were loaded.
But what was the most interesting was that the presentation of the data
that remain would win another vote.
First, they did not present the number of don't knows, and only told us
the split between those who had an opinion on the day of the survey. And
second, as the poll guy said, they did not weight the information for
the likelihood of people actually turning out to vote and simply assumed
that everyone would.
To be clear - if the poll result had been as presented then fair enough,
but it wasn't and this took the show from an useful look at people's
opinions to a piece of propaganda on behalf of remain as it seemed
someone had made the deliberate decision to mislead.
I thought the EU women was good, and I would liked to have had a whole
show listening to her.

the prime central objective of fossil media is to stir up emotion
and 'controversy'

--
www.abelard.org

2018-11-07 10:12:19 UTC

Post by Yellow

Nigel Farage was rather subdued - and really only came to life to
condemn Theresa May for not really trying to get a proper Brexit.
Those two MPs were a disgrace. The Conservative chap's main point was
that we should plough on, and respect the result of the now out-of-date
referendum, regardless of how misinformed the electorate were. The
Labour guy was little better, and it was rather difficult to understand
what his real opinions were.
But it will be an hour well-spent to watch it again.

Gauke was wholeheartedly for honouring the Brexit result, even though
he voted Remain. With Barry Gardiner, it was difficult to work out
what Labour's stance is currently. Farage got ratty, because he felt
it was a stitch-up. But it wasn't. The mood in the audience reflected
the mood in the country when that poll of 20,000 was conducted to
establish the turnaround in Remain's favour. You just don't want to
believe that a swing from Brexit towards Remain is fact now.

Post by Yellow
Yet the C4 presenter was quite taken aback when this was drawn to his
attention

Yes, because what Farage claimed was absolutely not true. A number of
'Leave' audience members stated quite clearly that they hadn't changed
their mind. Farage's problem is that many leavers *have* changed their
mind. Look at the Sunderland finding, for example.

Post by Yellow
And that is how it has been for the last 18 months. Drip.... drip....
drip....

Yes, and it is having an effect. More people across the nation are now
moving towards Remain, as this trend has been accelerating over the
past few months. There is nothing to stop that trend now. There just
isn't enough time left before March. So while technically we'll have
to leave on March 29 as that is what Article 50 and the Act in
Parliament require, there will be so many caveats, backstops and
'arrangements' that we will not to all intents and purposes have
actually left.

And then there's the transition period...!

Post by Yellow
So an interesting programme just from that point of view.
But as for the presentation of the voting data - how interesting was
that too and thank god for the commentary from the polling guy who put a
different spin on almost every chart the show presented, including
noting that some of the questions were loaded.

You're so desperate to play down that turnaround, aren't you? Even now
you still don't believe the facts, preferring the spin instead. Oh,
and note how the Brexiters sole line of defensive argument is to warn
of civil unrest. So will that insurgence happen if the terms of our
departure still keep us in a customs union? Still need us to listen to
the ECJ? Still don't impart that magical 'sovereignty' you've been
blabbing on about?

Post by Yellow
But what was the most interesting was that the presentation of the data
that remain would win another vote.
First, they did not present the number of don't knows, and only told us
the split between those who had an opinion on the day of the survey. And
second, as the poll guy said, they did not weight the information for
the likelihood of people actually turning out to vote and simply assumed
that everyone would.

You know the Brexit movement is sinking fast, don't you! Hence your
clutching at straws.

Post by Yellow
To be clear - if the poll result had been as presented then fair enough,
but it wasn't and this took the show from an useful look at people's
opinions to a piece of propaganda on behalf of remain as it seemed
someone had made the deliberate decision to mislead.

The poll result was 54% Remain v. 45% Leave, and thusly was It
presented. At what point did you fail to grasp these figures? Was it
at the point when your inner voice said "Oh, dear. Those figures don't
look good, so I'd better believe the spin instead!"

Post by Yellow
I thought the EU women was good, and I would liked to have had a whole
show listening to her.

These types of political shows on British TV are so micromanaged,
there is little point to them apart from providing entertainment. Only
one hour to debate such an important issue? In Germany, debates like
this tend to be open-ended so that speakers aren't constrained by the
clock.

MM

Tim Woodall

2018-11-07 10:34:16 UTC

Post by MM
Yes, and it is having an effect. More people across the nation are now
moving towards Remain, as this trend has been accelerating over the
past few months. There is nothing to stop that trend now. There just
isn't enough time left before March. So while technically we'll have
to leave on March 29 as that is what Article 50 and the Act in
Parliament require, there will be so many caveats, backstops and
'arrangements' that we will not to all intents and purposes have
actually left.
And then there's the transition period...!

However, if we actually make it to end Mar without an A50 extension then
we will have left with whatever deal is agreed.

From that point onwards we lose out 'strong' bargaining position as many
issues then come under individual member's veto (including rejoining)

Shitsack Moishe Goldberg

2018-11-06 13:59:00 UTC

On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 09:36:55 +0000, Ian Jackson

A misinformed electorate is the KEYSTONE of any democracy.

The Peeler

2018-11-06 15:15:44 UTC

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Post by Ian Jackson
Nigel Farage was rather subdued - and really only came to life to
condemn Theresa May for not really trying to get a proper Brexit.
Those two MPs were a disgrace. The Conservative chap's main point was
that we should plough on, and respect the result of the now out-of-date
referendum, regardless of how misinformed the electorate were.

A misinformed electorate is the KEYSTONE of any democracy.

BRILLIANT! Psychopathically "brilliant"! Eh, psychopath? <VBG>

--
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"Temper, temper little serbian muzzie or your colostomy bag will start
leaking again."
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SPOT ON!

2018-11-07 09:49:54 UTC

On Tue, 6 Nov 2018 09:36:55 +0000, Ian Jackson

Nigel Farage was rather subdued - and really only came to life to
condemn Theresa May for not really trying to get a proper Brexit.
Those two MPs were a disgrace. The Conservative chap's main point was
that we should plough on, and respect the result of the now out-of-date
referendum, regardless of how misinformed the electorate were. The
Labour guy was little better, and it was rather difficult to understand
what his real opinions were.

That was Barry Gardiner for Labour. He was, and is, pretty useless in
my opinion. Gorky looked decidedly uncomfortable when that 54%/46%
turnaround was announced.

MM

Dean Jackson

2018-11-09 00:30:21 UTC

Nigel Farage was rather subdued - and really only came to life to
condemn Theresa May for not really trying to get a proper Brexit.
Those two MPs were a disgrace. The Conservative chap's main point was
that we should plough on, and respect the result of the now out-of-date
referendum, regardless of how misinformed the electorate were. The
Labour guy was little better, and it was rather difficult to understand
what his real opinions were.
But it will be an hour well-spent to watch it again.

The Derby result,the Cup Final result and the Boat Race result are out
of date and will be replayed next year but that is not how elections or
referendums are played.

D.J.

Dean Jackson

2018-11-09 00:31:46 UTC

Nigel Farage was rather subdued - and really only came to life to
condemn Theresa May for not really trying to get a proper Brexit.
Those two MPs were a disgrace. The Conservative chap's main point was
that we should plough on, and respect the result of the now out-of-date
referendum, regardless of how misinformed the electorate were. The
Labour guy was little better, and it was rather difficult to understand
what his real opinions were.
But it will be an hour well-spent to watch it again.

Why it won't change anything.
D.J.

Omega

2018-11-06 09:37:21 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg
MM

Copied from Mark Devons' Thread.

"Some 54 per cent of people said they would stay in the EU if the 2016
referendum were held tomorrow – when those who refused to vote or
answered “don’t know” were removed".

Quote: Channel 4 Survation.

I read that as, all the people who told the pollsters to "fuck off" and
those, "I haven't got a fucking clue" were removed from the final poll.
results.

If some dumb arsed snowy pushed a mike or a clipboard in my face asking
how I would vote in this daydream second Referendum, as an ardent
Brexiteer, I too would tell them to fuck off so asking me and people
like me would very quickly void your nonsense poll, wouldn't it?

My vote was in 2016 and that was the one that counted despite the
slanted polls of the day. You do remember that, don't you?

Virtually every poll around the time of the Referendum, if not *all* if
someone can correctly inform me, indicated we would stay. These polls
were ALL WRONG!

I realise you are merely trolling with your idiot addresses to the
group, have fun however you feel but as long as you realise, you will
always be challenged.

If it needs be said again, we won in a democratic vote two years ago, we
will be leaving the EU next March. I won't bother to give you solace,
just keep crying.

omega

abelard

2018-11-06 09:52:26 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg
MM

Copied from Mark Devons' Thread.
"Some 54 per cent of people said they would stay in the EU if the 2016
referendum were held tomorrow when those who refused to vote or
answered dont know were removed".
Quote: Channel 4 Survation.
I read that as, all the people who told the pollsters to "fuck off" and
those, "I haven't got a fucking clue" were removed from the final poll.
results.
If some dumb arsed snowy pushed a mike or a clipboard in my face asking
how I would vote in this daydream second Referendum, as an ardent
Brexiteer, I too would tell them to fuck off so asking me and people
like me would very quickly void your nonsense poll, wouldn't it?
My vote was in 2016 and that was the one that counted despite the
slanted polls of the day. You do remember that, don't you?
Virtually every poll around the time of the Referendum, if not *all* if
someone can correctly inform me, indicated we would stay. These polls
were ALL WRONG!
I realise you are merely trolling with your idiot addresses to the
group, have fun however you feel but as long as you realise, you will
always be challenged.
If it needs be said again, we won in a democratic vote two years ago, we
will be leaving the EU next March. I won't bother to give you solace,
just keep crying.

i don't believe he's trolling...i believe he actually is daft enough
to believe fake polls
or whatever else he wishes were true

--
www.abelard.org

Omega

2018-11-06 10:52:56 UTC

Post by abelard

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg
MM

Copied from Mark Devons' Thread.
"Some 54 per cent of people said they would stay in the EU if the 2016
referendum were held tomorrow – when those who refused to vote or
answered “don’t know” were removed".
Quote: Channel 4 Survation.
I read that as, all the people who told the pollsters to "fuck off" and
those, "I haven't got a fucking clue" were removed from the final poll.
results.
If some dumb arsed snowy pushed a mike or a clipboard in my face asking
how I would vote in this daydream second Referendum, as an ardent
Brexiteer, I too would tell them to fuck off so asking me and people
like me would very quickly void your nonsense poll, wouldn't it?
My vote was in 2016 and that was the one that counted despite the
slanted polls of the day. You do remember that, don't you?
Virtually every poll around the time of the Referendum, if not *all* if
someone can correctly inform me, indicated we would stay. These polls
were ALL WRONG!
I realise you are merely trolling with your idiot addresses to the
group, have fun however you feel but as long as you realise, you will
always be challenged.
If it needs be said again, we won in a democratic vote two years ago, we
will be leaving the EU next March. I won't bother to give you solace,
just keep crying.

i don't believe he's trolling...i believe he actually is daft enough
to believe fake polls
or whatever else he wishes were true

I had to smile yesterday at Pamelas' post lampooning Brexiteers gone
quiet recently, accusing them, they had stopped their nasty leering
until "Joe" addressed him/her, many times Brexiteers usually only
challenge these fools when sparked up by some daft remark or when
misinformation has been deliberately presented by a Remainer.

Omega

abelard

2018-11-06 11:03:39 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

i don't believe he's trolling...i believe he actually is daft enough
to believe fake polls
or whatever else he wishes were true

i rather like her/his naive and optimistic innocence

--
www.abelard.org

Yellow

2018-11-06 12:58:18 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg
MM

Copied from Mark Devons' Thread.
"Some 54 per cent of people said they would stay in the EU if the 2016
referendum were held tomorrow ? when those who refused to vote or
answered ?don?t know? were removed".
Quote: Channel 4 Survation.
I read that as, all the people who told the pollsters to "fuck off" and
those, "I haven't got a fucking clue" were removed from the final poll.
results.
If some dumb arsed snowy pushed a mike or a clipboard in my face asking
how I would vote in this daydream second Referendum, as an ardent
Brexiteer, I too would tell them to fuck off so asking me and people
like me would very quickly void your nonsense poll, wouldn't it?
My vote was in 2016 and that was the one that counted despite the
slanted polls of the day. You do remember that, don't you?
Virtually every poll around the time of the Referendum, if not *all* if
someone can correctly inform me, indicated we would stay. These polls
were ALL WRONG!
I realise you are merely trolling with your idiot addresses to the
group, have fun however you feel but as long as you realise, you will
always be challenged.
If it needs be said again, we won in a democratic vote two years ago, we
will be leaving the EU next March. I won't bother to give you solace,
just keep crying.

i don't believe he's trolling...i believe he actually is daft enough
to believe fake polls
or whatever else he wishes were true

Personally, I have just got better ways of spending my time than keep
having the same old arguments with people who who often become personal
instead of sticking to what we are talking about, and I was finding
myself getting dragged in to the same behaviour.

This post on the other hand is about something new, so worth a few
minutes writing a contribution.

Pamela

2018-11-06 13:56:56 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit.
Towards the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest
poll ever carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing
towards Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-
win-new-brexit
-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg
MM

Copied from Mark Devons' Thread.
"Some 54 per cent of people said they would stay in the EU if the
2016 referendum were held tomorrow â when those who refused to
vote or answered âdonât knowâ were removed".
Quote: Channel 4 Survation.
I read that as, all the people who told the pollsters to "fuck off"
and those, "I haven't got a fucking clue" were removed from the
final poll. results.
If some dumb arsed snowy pushed a mike or a clipboard in my face
asking how I would vote in this daydream second Referendum, as an
ardent Brexiteer, I too would tell them to fuck off so asking me and
people like me would very quickly void your nonsense poll, wouldn't
it?
My vote was in 2016 and that was the one that counted despite the
slanted polls of the day. You do remember that, don't you?
Virtually every poll around the time of the Referendum, if not *all*
if someone can correctly inform me, indicated we would stay. These
polls were ALL WRONG!
I realise you are merely trolling with your idiot addresses to the
group, have fun however you feel but as long as you realise, you
will always be challenged.
If it needs be said again, we won in a democratic vote two years
ago, we will be leaving the EU next March. I won't bother to give
you solace, just keep crying.

i don't believe he's trolling...i believe he actually is daft enough
to believe fake polls or whatever else he wishes were true

I clearly recall there was posts of wild jubilation from Brexiteers who
would become rather agressive when the impracticality of implementing their
ideas was pointed out.

There would be arguments about this but as time has gone the "facts" used
to support Brexit were disproven. Brexiteers expect hardly any tangible
benefit from Brexit and have to rely on vague notions like sovereignty.

Brexiteers seem somewhat subdued now that reality has taken hold. You
don't hear these cries very often now:

"We won, you lost",
"WTO trade deals are dead easy",
"We will be richer and goods be cheaper",
"The Germans will be begging us to take their cars".

abelard

2018-11-06 14:00:23 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit.
Towards the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest
poll ever carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing
towards Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-
win-new-brexit
-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg
MM

Copied from Mark Devons' Thread.
"Some 54 per cent of people said they would stay in the EU if the
2016 referendum were held tomorrow â when those who refused to
vote or answered âdonât knowâ? were removed".
Quote: Channel 4 Survation.
I read that as, all the people who told the pollsters to "fuck off"
and those, "I haven't got a fucking clue" were removed from the
final poll. results.
If some dumb arsed snowy pushed a mike or a clipboard in my face
asking how I would vote in this daydream second Referendum, as an
ardent Brexiteer, I too would tell them to fuck off so asking me and
people like me would very quickly void your nonsense poll, wouldn't
it?
My vote was in 2016 and that was the one that counted despite the
slanted polls of the day. You do remember that, don't you?
Virtually every poll around the time of the Referendum, if not *all*
if someone can correctly inform me, indicated we would stay. These
polls were ALL WRONG!
I realise you are merely trolling with your idiot addresses to the
group, have fun however you feel but as long as you realise, you
will always be challenged.
If it needs be said again, we won in a democratic vote two years
ago, we will be leaving the EU next March. I won't bother to give
you solace, just keep crying.

i don't believe he's trolling...i believe he actually is daft enough
to believe fake polls or whatever else he wishes were true

I clearly recall there was posts of wild jubilation from Brexiteers who
would become rather agressive when the impracticality of implementing their
ideas was pointed out.
There would be arguments about this but as time has gone the "facts" used
to support Brexit were disproven. Brexiteers expect hardly any tangible
benefit from Brexit and have to rely on vague notions like sovereignty.
Brexiteers seem somewhat subdued now that reality has taken hold. You
"We won, you lost",
"WTO trade deals are dead easy",
"We will be richer and goods be cheaper",
"The Germans will be begging us to take their cars".

i see no problem with any of those claims/hopes...

but then you're a marxist materialist, so naturally you
have no context for freedom or independence

--
www.abelard.org

R. Mark Clayton

2018-11-06 10:56:10 UTC

Any stitch up was on the Leave side - they lied and cheated, although we do not yet know how much they cheated.

Post by MM
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg
MM

Yes. And I remember the vote in 1975 too.

Post by Omega
Virtually every poll around the time of the Referendum, if not *all* if
someone can correctly inform me, indicated we would stay. These polls
were ALL WRONG!
I realise you are merely trolling with your idiot addresses to the
group, have fun however you feel but as long as you realise, you will
always be challenged.
If it needs be said again, we won in a democratic vote

under false pretences

Post by Omega
two years ago, we
will be leaving the EU next March. I won't bother to give you solace,
just keep crying.
omega

and it was close - just two reasons why the final deal should be put the people.

Yellow

2018-11-06 12:54:17 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg
MM

As the polling guy pointed out, there were a few other times (notably
the immigration one, but also the better/worse off results) where the
don't knows/don't cares was just as important ask the yes/no answers yet
the show brushed over them.

Was this deliberate, to make it look as if the result meant one thing
when in fact it might have meant something else, or was it because
understanding polling takes a bit to get to grips with and the people
who put the show together simply did not appreciate what the information
meant?

Basil Jet

2018-11-06 14:10:01 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg
MM

Thank God for that! The countless hours I spent in 2016 wearing a "Vote
Leave" sandwich board would have been wasted if we could win a poll
without me doing it. But MM... if another referendum is called, I'll put
my sandwich board back on and I'll win Britain around again.

--
Basil Jet - listening... Soft Cell. Soft Machine. Solomon Grey. Sonic
Youth. Sonique. Sonny Rollins. Sophie Ellis Bextor. Soul-Junk. Space.
Space (French). Spacehog. Spacemen 3. Spear Of Destiny. Spectres (UK).
Spiller feat Sophie Ellis Bextor. Spiritual Vibes. Spiritualized.
Splat!. Split Enz. Spoon. Spring King. Squeeze. Sroeng Santi.

Ian Jackson

2018-11-06 14:15:00 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-re
ferendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg
MM

Thank God for that! The countless hours I spent in 2016 wearing a "Vote
Leave" sandwich board would have been wasted if we could win a poll
without me doing it. But MM... if another referendum is called, I'll
put my sandwich board back on and I'll win Britain around again.

It's your democratic right to do that. You can start today, if you want
- or do you want to have to wait 'a generation' before you do it again?

--
Ian

Basil Jet

2018-11-06 14:40:18 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-re
ferendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg
MM

Thank God for that! The countless hours I spent in 2016 wearing a
"Vote Leave" sandwich board would have been wasted if we could win a
poll without me doing it. But MM... if another referendum is called,
I'll put my sandwich board back on and I'll win Britain around again.

It's your democratic right to do that. You can start today, if you want
- or do you want to have to wait 'a generation' before you do it again?

My "Vote Leave" sandwich board would hide my "Free Nelson Mandela" T-shirt.

Ian Jackson

2018-11-06 14:42:45 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-re
ferendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg
MM

Thank God for that! The countless hours I spent in 2016 wearing a
"Vote Leave" sandwich board would have been wasted if we could win a
poll without me doing it. But MM... if another referendum is called,
I'll put my sandwich board back on and I'll win Britain around again.

It's your democratic right to do that. You can start today, if you
want - or do you want to have to wait 'a generation' before you do it
again?

My "Vote Leave" sandwich board would hide my "Free Nelson Mandela" T-shirt.

Good man!

--
Ian

Vidcapper

2018-11-06 15:17:05 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Pardon me, but the largest poll ever on Brexit was on 23/6/16...

--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

Ian Jackson

2018-11-06 19:09:53 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-re
ferendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Pardon me, but the largest poll ever on Brexit was on 23/6/16...

This is 'the other Brexit issue' - the one about whether the two year
old result of the 2016 referendum is still valid - if, indeed, it ever
really was.

--
Ian

smolley

2018-11-06 19:41:16 UTC

shows-a3981436.html

Post by MM
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Pardon me, but the largest poll ever on Brexit was on 23/6/16...

Don't forget the public were conned into joining the EU by saying it was just a common market.

2018-11-07 10:22:15 UTC

Post by smolley
Don't forget the public were conned into joining the EU by saying it was just a common market.

You're having a fair go at conning the public if you think we joined
the EU in 1973. The EU didn't exist back then. It didn't come into
being until 20 years later.

MM

Fredxx

2018-11-07 22:58:15 UTC

Post by smolley
Don't forget the public were conned into joining the EU by saying it was just a common market.

You're having a fair go at conning the public if you think we joined
the EU in 1973. The EU didn't exist back then. It didn't come into
being until 20 years later.

We should have had a referendum then too.

2018-11-07 10:20:10 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Pardon me, but the largest poll ever on Brexit was on 23/6/16...

That's redundant now, especially since so many young voters have
become old enough to vote and many OAPs have died.

As it is now increasingly clear, we will leave officially, while
remaining unofficially. There will be so many clauses, caveats,
special arrangement's and backstops that we won't actually have left,
except on paper. This whole issue is going to rumble on throughout the
transition period and beyond. There has to be an election in 2022 and
you can be sure that Brexit will feature heavily in that election. In
2022 are you still going to claim that a referendum held in 2016 must
be valid for a generation? How come elections are held every five
years, but referendums are not allowed to be? Who makes the rules?
You?

MM

JNugent

2018-11-06 17:51:18 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Yet more of MM's garbage.

The largest poll ever found 52% in favour of Leave and 48% in favour of
Remain.

For every hundred votes the reactionary Remain campaign got, the
revolutionary Leave cause got one hundred and eight - 8% more.

2018-11-07 10:24:52 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Yet more of MM's garbage.

This comment must mean I've hit a nerve -- again!

Post by JNugent
The largest poll ever found 52% in favour of Leave and 48% in favour of
Remain.

That wasn't a poll. Or to put it another way, if it was, when do we
ever consider the results of polls to be mandatory?

MM

JNugent

2018-11-07 12:49:28 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Yet more of MM's garbage.

This comment must mean I've hit a nerve -- again!

Post by JNugent
The largest poll ever found 52% in favour of Leave and 48% in favour of
Remain.

That wasn't a poll.

Was it not?

When I voted on 23rd June 2016, I did so at a local council-owned
builkding with a large temporary sign outside reading "Polling Station".

But it *wasn't* a poll, you say?

Post by MM
Or to put it another way, if it was, when do we
ever consider the results of polls to be mandatory?

When they are held under the terms of the Representation Of The People
Act (in other words, when they are officialy-arranged and facilitated
votes for the purposes of election.

[Yes, I know you don't fully understand the meaning(s) of the word
"election".]

2018-11-08 09:56:22 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Yet more of MM's garbage.

This comment must mean I've hit a nerve -- again!

Post by JNugent
The largest poll ever found 52% in favour of Leave and 48% in favour of
Remain.

That wasn't a poll.

Was it not?

No. It was a referendum as laid out in the European Union Referendum
Act 2015. This page tells you all you obviously didn't know:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/36/contents/enacted

By the way, not a single mention of a "poll" anywhere on that page,
nota bene.

Post by JNugent
When I voted on 23rd June 2016, I did so at a local council-owned
builkding with a large temporary sign outside reading "Polling Station".
But it *wasn't* a poll, you say?

Post by MM
Or to put it another way, if it was, when do we
ever consider the results of polls to be mandatory?

When they are held under the terms of the Representation Of The People
Act (in other words, when they are officialy-arranged and facilitated
votes for the purposes of election.

So why doesn't this apply in the case of the European Referendum,
which was, and is, NOT mandatory?

Post by JNugent
[Yes, I know you don't fully understand the meaning(s) of the word
"election".]

Personalised jibes fall from me like water off a duck's back, so
you're just wasting your time, while drawing attention to your
immediate idiocy.

MM

JNugent

2018-11-08 14:06:19 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Yet more of MM's garbage.

This comment must mean I've hit a nerve -- again!

Post by JNugent
The largest poll ever found 52% in favour of Leave and 48% in favour of
Remain.

That wasn't a poll.

Was it not?

No. It was a referendum as laid out in the European Union Referendum
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/36/contents/enacted
By the way, not a single mention of a "poll" anywhere on that page,
nota bene.

Post by JNugent
When I voted on 23rd June 2016, I did so at a local council-owned
builkding with a large temporary sign outside reading "Polling Station".
But it *wasn't* a poll, you say?

Post by MM
Or to put it another way, if it was, when do we
ever consider the results of polls to be mandatory?

When they are held under the terms of the Representation Of The People
Act (in other words, when they are officialy-arranged and facilitated
votes for the purposes of election.

So why doesn't this apply in the case of the European Referendum,
which was, and is, NOT mandatory?

Promises, promises.

The best of us do our best to keep them.

The worst of us just laugh and pretend the promise wasn't made.

Post by JNugent
[Yes, I know you don't fully understand the meaning(s) of the word
"election".]

Personalised jibes fall from me like water off a duck's back, so
you're just wasting your time, while drawing attention to your
immediate idiocy.

Ah... there are quite a few words whose meanings you don't understand.

2018-11-09 10:52:05 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Yet more of MM's garbage.

This comment must mean I've hit a nerve -- again!

Post by JNugent
The largest poll ever found 52% in favour of Leave and 48% in favour of
Remain.

That wasn't a poll.

Was it not?

Post by JNugent
When I voted on 23rd June 2016, I did so at a local council-owned
builkding with a large temporary sign outside reading "Polling Station".
But it *wasn't* a poll, you say?

Post by MM
Or to put it another way, if it was, when do we
ever consider the results of polls to be mandatory?

When they are held under the terms of the Representation Of The People
Act (in other words, when they are officialy-arranged and facilitated
votes for the purposes of election.

So why doesn't this apply in the case of the European Referendum,
which was, and is, NOT mandatory?

Promises, promises.
The best of us do our best to keep them.

The Act didn't promise anything EXCEPT a referendum. Whatever Cameron
& Co may or may not have commented verbally or in leaflets had no
legal impact on what would follow.

Post by JNugent
The worst of us just laugh and pretend the promise wasn't made.

See above.

MM

JNugent

2018-11-09 13:49:05 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Yet more of MM's garbage.

This comment must mean I've hit a nerve -- again!

Post by JNugent
The largest poll ever found 52% in favour of Leave and 48% in favour of
Remain.

That wasn't a poll.

Was it not?

Post by JNugent
When I voted on 23rd June 2016, I did so at a local council-owned
builkding with a large temporary sign outside reading "Polling Station".
But it *wasn't* a poll, you say?

Post by MM
Or to put it another way, if it was, when do we
ever consider the results of polls to be mandatory?

When they are held under the terms of the Representation Of The People
Act (in other words, when they are officialy-arranged and facilitated
votes for the purposes of election.

So why doesn't this apply in the case of the European Referendum,
which was, and is, NOT mandatory?

Promises, promises.
The best of us do our best to keep them.

The Act didn't promise anything EXCEPT a referendum. Whatever Cameron
& Co may or may not have commented verbally or in leaflets had no
legal impact on what would follow.

Post by JNugent
The worst of us just laugh and pretend the promise wasn't made.

As you have just tried - unsuccessfully - to do.

I believe you when you say that you would not have kept a promise.

That's obviously the sort of person you are. Thanks for confirming it.

2018-11-10 09:10:21 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Yet more of MM's garbage.

This comment must mean I've hit a nerve -- again!

Post by JNugent
The largest poll ever found 52% in favour of Leave and 48% in favour of
Remain.

That wasn't a poll.

Was it not?

Post by JNugent
When I voted on 23rd June 2016, I did so at a local council-owned
builkding with a large temporary sign outside reading "Polling Station".
But it *wasn't* a poll, you say?

Post by MM
Or to put it another way, if it was, when do we
ever consider the results of polls to be mandatory?

When they are held under the terms of the Representation Of The People
Act (in other words, when they are officialy-arranged and facilitated
votes for the purposes of election.

So why doesn't this apply in the case of the European Referendum,
which was, and is, NOT mandatory?

Promises, promises.
The best of us do our best to keep them.

The Act didn't promise anything EXCEPT a referendum. Whatever Cameron
& Co may or may not have commented verbally or in leaflets had no
legal impact on what would follow.

Post by JNugent
The worst of us just laugh and pretend the promise wasn't made.

As you have just tried - unsuccessfully - to do.
I believe you when you say that you would not have kept a promise.
That's obviously the sort of person you are. Thanks for confirming it.

It's not about me. It's about the referendum result, which was, and is
(still), advisory.

MM

Norman Wells

2018-11-10 09:23:11 UTC

Post by MM
It's not about me. It's about the referendum result, which was, and is
(still), advisory.

It was a Conservative manifesto pledge in 2015 on which a majority
Conservative government was elected:

"We will legislate in the first session of the next Parliament
for an in-out referendum to be held on Britain’s
membership of the EU before the end of 2017. We will
negotiate a new settlement for Britain in the EU. And then
we will ask the British people whether they want to stay
in on this basis, or leave."

It concluded with the commitment:

"We will honour the result of the referendum, whatever the outcome."

No sign there of it being merely advisory.

JNugent

2018-11-10 12:10:41 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit. Towards
the end of the programme it was revealed that the largest poll ever
carried out on the Brexit issue found a significant swing towards
Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was far
greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-new-brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-a3981436.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Yet more of MM's garbage.

This comment must mean I've hit a nerve -- again!

Post by JNugent
The largest poll ever found 52% in favour of Leave and 48% in favour of
Remain.

That wasn't a poll.

Was it not?

Post by JNugent
When I voted on 23rd June 2016, I did so at a local council-owned
builkding with a large temporary sign outside reading "Polling Station".
But it *wasn't* a poll, you say?

Post by MM
Or to put it another way, if it was, when do we
ever consider the results of polls to be mandatory?

When they are held under the terms of the Representation Of The People
Act (in other words, when they are officialy-arranged and facilitated
votes for the purposes of election.

So why doesn't this apply in the case of the European Referendum,
which was, and is, NOT mandatory?

Promises, promises.
The best of us do our best to keep them.

The Act didn't promise anything EXCEPT a referendum. Whatever Cameron
& Co may or may not have commented verbally or in leaflets had no
legal impact on what would follow.

Post by JNugent
The worst of us just laugh and pretend the promise wasn't made.

As you have just tried - unsuccessfully - to do.
I believe you when you say that you would not have kept a promise.
That's obviously the sort of person you are. Thanks for confirming it.

It's not about me. It's about the referendum result, which was, and is
(still), advisory.

The worst of humans, as you have demonstrated, care so little for other
people, and for morality and roper behavious, that they not only break
promises, but do their damnedest to pretend that they were never made.

Pamela

2018-11-10 13:38:28 UTC

Post by MM
Last night Channel 4 News ran an hour-long debate on Brexit.
Towards the end of the programme it was revealed that the
largest poll ever carried out on the Brexit issue found a
significant swing towards Remain on 54% against Leave on 46%.
Nigel Farage got quite ratty, claiming it was all a stitch-up etc etc.
Worth watching. The applause any Remain comment received was
far greater than for Leave after its defenders had spoken.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/remain-would-win-

new-

Post by MM
brexit-referendum-by-eight-points-major-new-poll-shows-

a398143

Post by MM
6.html
http://youtu.be/YKCrKtOsPNg

Yet more of MM's garbage.

This comment must mean I've hit a nerve -- again!

Post by JNugent
The largest poll ever found 52% in favour of Leave and 48% in
favour of Remain.

That wasn't a poll.

Was it not?

No. It was a referendum as laid out in the European Union
Referendum Act 2015. This page tells you all you obviously didn't
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/36/contents/enacted
By the way, not a single mention of a "poll" anywhere on that
page, nota bene.

Post by JNugent
When I voted on 23rd June 2016, I did so at a local
council-owned builkding with a large temporary sign outside
reading "Polling Station".
But it *wasn't* a poll, you say?