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DEBE?
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o***@gmail.com
2015-04-15 15:50:51 UTC
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My dad wrote it at IBM in 1965 for the system S360. He's currently describing it to me and it's a certain kind of awesome.

Michelle, who finds dead threads on the internet.
Dan Espen
2015-04-15 16:15:12 UTC
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My dad wrote it at IBM in 1965 for the system S360. He's currently
describing it to me and it's a certain kind of awesome.
Michelle, your dad is a hero.
That's no small accomplishment.
Michelle, who finds dead threads on the internet.
We're not dead yet.
DEBE may be gone, but not forgotten.

This page puts DEBE in 1963:

http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/ibm-360-30.html

Can't see how that's possible.
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Bob Martin
2015-04-15 16:59:41 UTC
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Post by Dan Espen
My dad wrote it at IBM in 1965 for the system S360. He's currently
describing it to me and it's a certain kind of awesome.
Michelle, your dad is a hero.
That's no small accomplishment.
Michelle, who finds dead threads on the internet.
We're not dead yet.
DEBE may be gone, but not forgotten.
http://ed-thelen.org/comp-hist/ibm-360-30.html
Can't see how that's possible.
I first encountered DEBE and Superzap early in 1966.
I was on an OS/360 internals course, using release 4/5
Ric Fink
2021-01-31 23:09:54 UTC
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My dad wrote it at IBM in 1965 for the system S360. He's currently describing it to me and it's a certain kind of awesome.
Michelle, who finds dead threads on the internet.
Michele, is your dad still with us? I have an original copy of debe on a small "2400 ft" tape real. Might he be interested in it?

It save my butt a thousand times in my days with IBM s?360's and s/370's.

-Ric
Lowell DeFrance
2021-10-31 19:48:43 UTC
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Post by Ric Fink
My dad wrote it at IBM in 1965 for the system S360. He's currently describing it to me and it's a certain kind of awesome.
Michelle, who finds dead threads on the internet.
Michele, is your dad still with us? I have an original copy of debe on a small "2400 ft" tape real. Might he be interested in it?
It save my butt a thousand times in my days with IBM s?360's and s/370's.
-Ric
Hi Ric, I'm still around at 86. Just noticed this exchange between you and my daughter today. Hope you are well too.
Lowell DeFrance, vry retired in Woodstock, IL
Richard Fink
2023-11-05 20:47:23 UTC
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Post by Ric Fink
My dad wrote it at IBM in 1965 for the system S360. He's currently describing it to me and it's a certain kind of awesome.
Michelle, who finds dead threads on the internet.
Michele, is your dad still with us? I have an original copy of debe on a small "2400 ft" tape real. Might he be interested in it?
It save my butt a thousand times in my days with IBM s?360's and s/370's.
-Ric
Hi Ric, I'm still around at 86. Just noticed this exchange between you and my daughter today. Hope you are well too.
Lowell DeFrance, vry retired in Woodstock, IL
Hi Lowell, I just saw this, after writing to you moments ago. Yup, I'm 80 years old! I hope I'm understanding that you are well too. Very retired too, but loved the years we are talking about here. We were working during a very innovative and busy time, for sure. I'm in San Francisco CA. During those days, even though COBOL was big in business applications, my head was deep in the depths of Assembler, writing OS extensions, mods, and fixes to the way we wanted things to run at the OS level. Here is something interesting. I just came upon original IBM Manuals from those old mainframes. They are too beautiful to my heart to 'recycle', but neither UC Berkeley or Stanford Computer Departments want them. What to do?!?
Charlie Gibbs
2023-11-05 23:54:15 UTC
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Post by Richard Fink
Post by Lowell DeFrance
Post by Ric Fink
My dad wrote it at IBM in 1965 for the system S360. He's currently
describing it to me and it's a certain kind of awesome.
Michelle, who finds dead threads on the internet.
Michele, is your dad still with us? I have an original copy of debe
on a small "2400 ft" tape real. Might he be interested in it?
It save my butt a thousand times in my days with IBM s?360's and s/370's.
Hi Ric, I'm still around at 86. Just noticed this exchange between
you and my daughter today. Hope you are well too.
Lowell DeFrance, vry retired in Woodstock, IL
Hi Lowell, I just saw this, after writing to you moments ago. Yup,
I'm 80 years old! I hope I'm understanding that you are well too.
Very retired too, but loved the years we are talking about here.
We were working during a very innovative and busy time, for sure.
I'm in San Francisco CA. During those days, even though COBOL was
big in business applications, my head was deep in the depths of
Assembler, writing OS extensions, mods, and fixes to the way we
wanted things to run at the OS level.
I worked in Univac shops, but got my hands on a descendant of DEBE
and ported it to the Univac 9400.
Post by Richard Fink
Here is something interesting. I just came upon original IBM Manuals
from those old mainframes. They are too beautiful to my heart to
'recycle', but neither UC Berkeley or Stanford Computer Departments
want them. What to do?!?
Scan them and upload them to bitsavers.org. I've done this with
a lot of old Univac manuals. There's a ton of stuff out there,
all lovingly preserved, and you might be able to make a valuable
contribution.

http://bitsavers.org/
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Scott Lurndal
2023-11-06 15:50:24 UTC
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On Sunday, October 31, 2021 at 12:48:45=E2=80=AFPM UTC-7, Lowell DeFrance w=
On Sunday, January 31, 2021 at 5:09:55 PM UTC-6, Ric Fink wrote:=20
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scribing it to me and it's a certain kind of awesome.=20
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a small "2400 ft" tape real. Might he be interested in it?=20
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-Ric
Hi Ric, I'm still around at 86. Just noticed this exchange between you an=
d my daughter today. Hope you are well too.=20
Lowell DeFrance, vry retired in Woodstock, IL
Hi Lowell, I just saw this, after writing to you moments ago. Yup, I'm 80 y=
ears old! I hope I'm understanding that you are well too. Very retired too,=
but loved the years we are talking about here. We were working during a ve=
ry innovative and busy time, for sure. I'm in San Francisco CA. During thos=
e days, even though COBOL was big in business applications, my head was dee=
p in the depths of Assembler, writing OS extensions, mods, and fixes to the=
way we wanted things to run at the OS level. Here is something interesting=
. I just came upon original IBM Manuals from those old mainframes. They are=
too beautiful to my heart to 'recycle', but neither UC Berkeley or Stanfor=
d Computer Departments want them. What to do?!?
Check bitsavers.org to see if they already have them, otherwise
send them to Al Kossow at the CHM.

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