Just what we need - Truckdrivers with multiple sclerosis

[laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE]

http://www.mlive.com/news/sanews/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1138447556318260.xml&coll=9

Trucker pleads no contest in traffic-stop death
Saturday, January 28, 2006

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
ALLEGAN -- A truck driver who hid his progressive multiple sclerosis
to keep his job has pleaded no contest to vehicular homicide in a
fiery crash that killed an Alma College graduate whom police had
pulled over for a speeding violation.

David Gale, 43, of Ada, Ohio, entered the plea this week during a
hearing in Allegan County Circuit Court.

In Michigan, a no-contest plea is not an admission of guilt, but the
judge treats it the same at sentencing. Gale faces up to 15 years in
prison when he is sentenced Friday.


Early June 23, 2004, Allegan County Sheriff's Deputy Jon Bender pulled
over Emily Van Dyke's vehicle on Interstate 196 near Holland, about a
mile south of where U.S. 31 merges with the freeway. Moments later,
Gale's truck plowed into the back of the police cruiser, then rolled
over Van Dyke's car and dragged it into a ditch, where both caught
fire.

The collision killed Van Dyke, 22, of Saugatuck. She recently had
graduated from Alma College and was preparing to start teaching at a
North Carolina elementary school.

Gale and the deputy suffered minor injuries.

Gale initially told investigators he had fallen asleep behind the
wheel of his rig. Police and prosecutors later discovered that he has
multiple sclerosis.

Medical records show Gale was diagnosed with the disease March 8,
2004, but did not disclose the diagnosis two months later when he
sought to renew his commercial driver's license.

He also persuaded a doctor in his hometown to sign a certificate
stating he is qualified for a commercial license, prosecutors said.

Gale, who was strapped into a wheelchair during his plea hearing, said
he had stopped taking his multiple sclerosis medication before the
crash.

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So he kills someone and he faces 15 years MAXIMUM!!?? That should be
the minimum but then, this is criminal coddler america.

[Orpheus In The Underworld]

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
(etc)
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So he kills someone and he faces 15 years MAXIMUM!!?? That should be
the minimum but then, this is criminal coddler america.

You are a moron on so many levels, it boggles the mind. You got any clue how
expensive it is to have Multiple Sclerosis? The insurance co-pays can range
to the thousands. Think Medicaid/Medicare's gonna pay to take care of this
guy? Think again. Yep, he did wrong, but there was a reason for it-and he
is being punished for it; but his crime wasn't performed with malicious
intent. There's a bus leaving for Cleveland soon, be under it.

[Laura Bush murdered her boy friend]

Post by Orpheus In The Underworld

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
(etc)
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So he kills someone and he faces 15 years MAXIMUM!!?? That should be
the minimum but then, this is criminal coddler america.

You are a moron on so many levels, it boggles the mind. You got any clue how
expensive it is to have Multiple Sclerosis? The insurance co-pays can range
to the thousands. Think Medicaid/Medicare's gonna pay to take care of this
guy? Think again. Yep, he did wrong, but there was a reason for it-and he
is being punished for it; but his crime wasn't performed with malicious
intent.

Fork off you criminal coddler. So now it's ok to commit a crime and
kill someone if you really really need the money?

[i***@medved.com]

Well I have no idea what your name is but the cost of medical care is no excuse to have killed MY SISTER. If you did your research it was not the disease or cost of care that was the issue. The man never told the doctor about the issue when he was renewing his license to drive semi's. So please keep your disgusting comments to yourself until you are fully aware of all the facts around the situation.

[Hardpan]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 16:10:25 GMT, laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
http://www.mlive.com/news/sanews/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1138447556318260.xml&coll=9
Trucker pleads no contest in traffic-stop death
Saturday, January 28, 2006
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
ALLEGAN -- A truck driver who hid his progressive multiple sclerosis
to keep his job has pleaded no contest to vehicular homicide in a
fiery crash that killed an Alma College graduate whom police had
pulled over for a speeding violation.
David Gale, 43, of Ada, Ohio, entered the plea this week during a
hearing in Allegan County Circuit Court.
In Michigan, a no-contest plea is not an admission of guilt, but the
judge treats it the same at sentencing. Gale faces up to 15 years in
prison when he is sentenced Friday.
Early June 23, 2004, Allegan County Sheriff's Deputy Jon Bender pulled
over Emily Van Dyke's vehicle on Interstate 196 near Holland, about a
mile south of where U.S. 31 merges with the freeway. Moments later,
Gale's truck plowed into the back of the police cruiser, then rolled
over Van Dyke's car and dragged it into a ditch, where both caught
fire.
The collision killed Van Dyke, 22, of Saugatuck. She recently had
graduated from Alma College and was preparing to start teaching at a
North Carolina elementary school.
Gale and the deputy suffered minor injuries.
Gale initially told investigators he had fallen asleep behind the
wheel of his rig. Police and prosecutors later discovered that he has
multiple sclerosis.
Medical records show Gale was diagnosed with the disease March 8,
2004, but did not disclose the diagnosis two months later when he
sought to renew his commercial driver's license.
He also persuaded a doctor in his hometown to sign a certificate
stating he is qualified for a commercial license, prosecutors said.
Gale, who was strapped into a wheelchair during his plea hearing, said
he had stopped taking his multiple sclerosis medication before the
crash.
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So he kills someone and he faces 15 years MAXIMUM!!?? That should be
the minimum but then, this is criminal coddler america.

He lied on his application.

What part about that dont you understand?

[Richard]

What if it had been just a car driver or a motorcyle that had caused
the crash?
With the driver suffering from MS.
Chances are the story, if printed, would have had no impact on anyone
and nobody would even care.

The only reason the story got attention, was the fact a truck driver
was at fault.

FYI, asshole, the DOT physical DOES NOT check for MS.
YOU, the applicant, need only place a check mark beside where it asks
"have you ever had or been diagnosed with MS?".

Is it a lie because you failed to check the box?
Apparently, he failed to check the box because he knew in advance he
would be disqualified to drive.

Yet, you, average joe citizen are allowed to drive your car and kill
someone just the same.
Can you pass a physical as the truckers can?

Think about it, several hundred thousand truckers in this country and
every one of them is physically certified by the DOT to be driving on
the road, while not one damn car driver is.

Scary aint it?

[Meat Plow]

Post by Richard
What if it had been just a car driver or a motorcyle that had caused
the crash?
With the driver suffering from MS.
Chances are the story, if printed, would have had no impact on anyone
and nobody would even care.
The only reason the story got attention, was the fact a truck driver
was at fault.
FYI, asshole, the DOT physical DOES NOT check for MS.
YOU, the applicant, need only place a check mark beside where it asks
"have you ever had or been diagnosed with MS?".
Is it a lie because you failed to check the box?
Apparently, he failed to check the box because he knew in advance he
would be disqualified to drive.
Yet, you, average joe citizen are allowed to drive your car and kill
someone just the same.
Can you pass a physical as the truckers can?
Think about it, several hundred thousand truckers in this country and
every one of them is physically certified by the DOT to be driving on
the road, while not one damn car driver is.
Scary aint it?

Shut the fuck up St00pid.

[SD Dave]

Post by Richard
What if it had been just a car driver or a motorcyle that had caused
the crash?
With the driver suffering from MS.
Chances are the story, if printed, would have had no impact on anyone
and nobody would even care.

Or people would be just as disturbed that someone would put their need
to drive above everyone else's safety.

Post by Richard
The only reason the story got attention, was the fact a truck driver
was at fault.

To some people a problem like this is magnified when you're in control
of a vehicle that weighs 10x (or more) than what my car does.

Post by Richard
Is it a lie because you failed to check the box?
Apparently, he failed to check the box because he knew in advance he
would be disqualified to drive.

That makes it a lie, since he intentionally answered a question in a
way meant to deceive others.

Post by Richard
Yet, you, average joe citizen are allowed to drive your car and kill
someone just the same.
Can you pass a physical as the truckers can?

And if you're driving a car, after having been diagnosed with MS and
hit someone you'd better hope the insurance companies and lawyers
don't find out. The fact is that this driver was completely neglegent
by continuing to drive. The number of wheels won't change that.

Dave

[Whitelightning]

Post by SD Dave
And if you're driving a car, after having been diagnosed with MS and
hit someone you'd better hope the insurance companies and lawyers
don't find out. The fact is that this driver was completely

neglegent

Post by SD Dave
by continuing to drive. The number of wheels won't change that.

Thats true, but on the other hand, Florida has me jumping through
hoops every 6-12 months,
eye exams, letters from my doctor, extended road tests which amounts
to four road tests in a row. The last one I got 97 on.. In the last
four years I've had to change my eye glasses one time, for a minor
change to the left lens.
And what does having MS, or high blood pressure, or diabetes if not on
insulin to do with driving?

Whitelightning

[DTJ]

Post by SD Dave

Post by Richard
Yet, you, average joe citizen are allowed to drive your car and kill
someone just the same.
Can you pass a physical as the truckers can?

And if you're driving a car, after having been diagnosed with MS and
hit someone you'd better hope the insurance companies and lawyers
don't find out. The fact is that this driver was completely neglegent
by continuing to drive. The number of wheels won't change that.
Dave

Dave, what is it with these truckers, or other groups of idiots, that
feel they have to defend their own no matter what? Jaybird defends
every police activity even when they murder someone. CE White defends
every lawyer even when it is clear that the majority of people do not
trust lawyers due to what most of them do.

You would think that people would be smart enough to admit that there
are bad people in every group, and not defend them. It is very
unbecoming.

*************************
Dave

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Post by DTJ

Post by SD Dave

Post by Richard
Yet, you, average joe citizen are allowed to drive your car and kill
someone just the same.
Can you pass a physical as the truckers can?

And if you're driving a car, after having been diagnosed with MS and
hit someone you'd better hope the insurance companies and lawyers
don't find out. The fact is that this driver was completely neglegent
by continuing to drive. The number of wheels won't change that.
Dave

Dave, what is it with these truckers, or other groups of idiots, that
feel they have to defend their own no matter what? Jaybird defends
every police activity even when they murder someone. CE White defends
every lawyer even when it is clear that the majority of people do not
trust lawyers due to what most of them do.
You would think that people would be smart enough to admit that there
are bad people in every group, and not defend them. It is very
unbecoming.
*************************
Dave

[Whitelightning]

Post by DTJ

Post by DTJ
Dave, what is it with these truckers, or other groups of idiots, that

feel they have to defend their own no matter what? Jaybird defends
every police activity even when they murder someone. CE White defends
every lawyer even when it is clear that the majority of people do not
trust lawyers due to what most of them do.
You would think that people would be smart enough to admit that there
are bad people in every group, and not defend them. It is very
unbecoming.

I didn't see anywhere where anyone defended the idiot who caused the
accident.
In fact I, who have more reason than anyone to defend him, condemned his
actions,.
What I saw , with the exception of the village idiot, were people having an
open
discussion about the disease its effects and symptoms, and treatment., and
how it has affected me. What started the thread was a truck hater with a
blanket condemnation about something she as usual was totally clueless
about.
And then you jumping in as usual with your insults that started in the very
first
line of your response. If you read a bit more here you would see we hammer
our own quite often.

Whitelightning

[DTJ]

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:33:26 GMT, "Whitelightning"

Post by Whitelightning

Post by DTJ

Post by DTJ
Dave, what is it with these truckers, or other groups of idiots, that

feel they have to defend their own no matter what? Jaybird defends
every police activity even when they murder someone. CE White defends
every lawyer even when it is clear that the majority of people do not
trust lawyers due to what most of them do.
You would think that people would be smart enough to admit that there
are bad people in every group, and not defend them. It is very
unbecoming.

I didn't see anywhere where anyone defended the idiot who caused the
accident.
In fact I, who have more reason than anyone to defend him, condemned his
actions,.

Come now, why would any intelligent person have any reason to defend
him? You are showing your trucker logic here...

Post by Whitelightning
And then you jumping in as usual with your insults that started in the very
first
line of your response. If you read a bit more here you would see we hammer
our own quite often.

Really. Google this group and tell me how many times you have blindly
defended every trucker action with lies, and then how many times you
have come out against the stupidity of a fellow trucker, and get back
to me when the second type is a positive number.

*************************
Dave

[Whitelightning]

Post by DTJ
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 15:33:26 GMT, "Whitelightning"
Come now, why would any intelligent person have any reason to defend
him? You are showing your trucker logic here...

Must be pretty good logic then cause I condemned his actions.

And when have you done anything but condemn and/or bitch about truck
drivers?
Weren't you the one bragging awhile back about passing trucks on the
shoulder?

Whitelightning

[Hardpan]

Post by Richard
What if it had been just a car driver or a motorcyle that had caused
the crash? With the driver suffering from MS.

What if a chicken crossed the road?

Post by Richard
Chances are the story, if printed, would have had no impact on anyone
and nobody would even care.

But that's not what occurred, is it?

The driver COULD also have requested an exemption, upon medical and
other driver evaluations, but he didn't do that, did he?

Post by Richard
The only reason the story got attention, was the fact a truck driver
was at fault.

Partly so, perhaps.

Post by Richard
FYI, asshole, the DOT physical DOES NOT check for MS.

This is one reason I don't listen to CB radio traffic, where idiots
like you abound.

Meatheads like you are one reason I sold mine a long while back.

Post by Richard
YOU, the applicant, need only place a check mark beside where it asks
"have you ever had or been diagnosed with MS?".

And he didn't, did he?

Post by Richard
Is it a lie because you failed to check the box?

Yes. He knew he had MS and he didn't report it.

Post by Richard
Apparently, he failed to check the box because he knew in advance he
would be disqualified to drive.

Yes.

Post by Richard
Yet, you, average joe citizen are allowed to drive your car and kill
someone just the same.

FYI, I hold a Class A CDL and currently drive Class 8 rigs, semi and
doubles.

Been doing so for many years too, driver.

Post by Richard
Can you pass a physical as the truckers can?

Yes.

Every two years, just like you.

Post by Richard
Think about it, several hundred thousand truckers in this country and
every one of them is physically certified by the DOT to be driving on
the road, while not one damn car driver is.

Cars weighs 5000 lbs TOPS and are about 20 feet long.

A fully loaded rig is 65 feet long or more and weighs in at 80,000
lbs.

Post by Richard
Scary aint it?

If your point is that there are unqualified car drivers on the road,
then, yes, it is.

That doesn't excuse this driver from disclosing his medical condition,
however.

[Pooh Bear]

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
http://www.mlive.com/news/sanews/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1138447556318260.xml&coll=9
Trucker pleads no contest in traffic-stop death
Saturday, January 28, 2006
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
ALLEGAN -- A truck driver who hid his progressive multiple sclerosis
to keep his job

This is what happens in a society that has no suport for the unwell that would allow
him to survive if he had to retire from work.

Graham

[Hardpan]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:50:51 +0000, Pooh Bear

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
http://www.mlive.com/news/sanews/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1138447556318260.xml&coll=9
Trucker pleads no contest in traffic-stop death
Saturday, January 28, 2006
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
ALLEGAN -- A truck driver who hid his progressive multiple sclerosis
to keep his job

This is what happens in a society that has no suport for the unwell that would allow
him to survive if he had to retire from work.

Where in the world would you find that sort of support, exactly?

[Pooh Bear]

Post by Hardpan
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:50:51 +0000, Pooh Bear

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
http://www.mlive.com/news/sanews/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1138447556318260.xml&coll=9
Trucker pleads no contest in traffic-stop death
Saturday, January 28, 2006
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
ALLEGAN -- A truck driver who hid his progressive multiple sclerosis
to keep his job

This is what happens in a society that has no suport for the unwell that would allow
him to survive if he had to retire from work.

Where in the world would you find that sort of support, exactly?

Europe.

Graham

[Hardpan]

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:31:14 +0000, Pooh Bear

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by Hardpan
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:50:51 +0000, Pooh Bear

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
http://www.mlive.com/news/sanews/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1138447556318260.xml&coll=9
Trucker pleads no contest in traffic-stop death
Saturday, January 28, 2006
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
ALLEGAN -- A truck driver who hid his progressive multiple sclerosis
to keep his job

This is what happens in a society that has no suport for the unwell that would allow
him to survive if he had to retire from work.

Where in the world would you find that sort of support, exactly?

Europe.

Last time I checked, this driver is an American who lives and works in
the US.

Besides, Europe is full of freeloaders who leach off the hard work of
others. Its sinking your many little ships of state and many countries
are cracking down on the leaches.

That's why so many of them move here to the USA.

[Pooh Bear]

Post by Hardpan
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:31:14 +0000, Pooh Bear

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by Hardpan
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:50:51 +0000, Pooh Bear

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
http://www.mlive.com/news/sanews/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1138447556318260.xml&coll=9
Trucker pleads no contest in traffic-stop death
Saturday, January 28, 2006
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
ALLEGAN -- A truck driver who hid his progressive multiple sclerosis
to keep his job

This is what happens in a society that has no suport for the unwell that would allow
him to survive if he had to retire from work.

Where in the world would you find that sort of support, exactly?

Europe.

Last time I checked, this driver is an American who lives and works in
the US.

So why did you ask then ?

Graham

[Hardpan]

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 01:07:21 +0000, Pooh Bear

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by Hardpan
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:31:14 +0000, Pooh Bear

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by Hardpan
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:50:51 +0000, Pooh Bear

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
http://www.mlive.com/news/sanews/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1138447556318260.xml&coll=9
Trucker pleads no contest in traffic-stop death
Saturday, January 28, 2006
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
ALLEGAN -- A truck driver who hid his progressive multiple sclerosis
to keep his job

This is what happens in a society that has no suport for the unwell that would allow
him to survive if he had to retire from work.

Where in the world would you find that sort of support, exactly?

Europe.

Last time I checked, this driver is an American who lives and works in
the US.

So why did you ask then ?

Because I live in the USA, land of the almighty dollar bill, where we
don't have it so easy.

But at least we still have our guns :)

[Pooh Bear]

Post by Hardpan
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 01:07:21 +0000, Pooh Bear

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by Hardpan
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 23:31:14 +0000, Pooh Bear

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by Hardpan
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:50:51 +0000, Pooh Bear

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
http://www.mlive.com/news/sanews/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1138447556318260.xml&coll=9
Trucker pleads no contest in traffic-stop death
Saturday, January 28, 2006
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
ALLEGAN -- A truck driver who hid his progressive multiple sclerosis
to keep his job

This is what happens in a society that has no suport for the unwell that would allow
him to survive if he had to retire from work.

Where in the world would you find that sort of support, exactly?

Europe.

Last time I checked, this driver is an American who lives and works in
the US.

So why did you ask then ?

Because I live in the USA, land of the almighty dollar bill, where we
don't have it so easy.
But at least we still have our guns :)

I suppose when you know you have no chance of an income any more in the US, you can at least use
that gun to kill yourself.

Graham

[Pooh Bear]

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
Medical records show Gale was diagnosed with the disease March 8,
2004, but did not disclose the diagnosis two months later when he
sought to renew his commercial driver's license.

I don't suppose you disclose your mental illness either in order to be able to keep
driving.

Graham

[necromancer]

Post by Pooh Bear
I don't suppose you disclose your mental illness
either in order to be able to keep
driving.

Of course it doesn't. The rules are for you and me (and Scott, Nate, the
Daves, Arif and the regulars of the other groups and so on...)

IOW, in Loco Laura's twisted view of things, it is special and
privledged and doesn't have the obey the rules...

--
--
"> Have you ever driven a car faster than the legal speed limit?

Yes, but never deliberately. In fact i got a speeding ticket about 5
years ago for doing 41 in a 25. I just about kicked the cops teeth in
cause i was sure he was lying. No way the SL on this wide open
stretch could be 25, i thought."

Pride of America (c.k.a. "laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMOCIDE), 10/3/2002
Message-ID: <***@posting.google.com>
http://tinyurl.com/5u4wg

Connecting POA to LBMHB/lbVH:
See the following: http://tinyurl.com/ahphj

[Laura Bush murdered her boy friend]

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
Medical records show Gale was diagnosed with the disease March 8,
2004, but did not disclose the diagnosis two months later when he
sought to renew his commercial driver's license.

I don't suppose you disclose your mental illness either in order to be able to keep
driving.
Graham

I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash.

[necromancer]

</killfile> (saw Garth's reply and can't resist...)

Post by Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash.

3.5 years with out killing anyone with your sloth?? Damn, I've been
speeding for over 20 years and *still* haven't managed have a fatal
crash. ROTFL!!!!! BTW, the quote below really reminds me of you
whenever I hear it...

--
"Brothers riding around with TV's in the headreast of their cars...
...The TV's is on, ain't nobody in the backseat!"
--Chris Rock

<killfile>

[Pooh Bear]

Post by Laura Bush murdered her boy friend

Post by Pooh Bear

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
Medical records show Gale was diagnosed with the disease March 8,
2004, but did not disclose the diagnosis two months later when he
sought to renew his commercial driver's license.

I don't suppose you disclose your mental illness either in order to be able to keep
driving.
Graham

I must be doing something right to go 3 1/2 years without a fatal crash.

You've had a fatal crash ?

You should be locked up !

Graham

[SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim]

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
Early June 23, 2004, Allegan County Sheriff's Deputy Jon Bender pulled
over Emily Van Dyke's vehicle on Interstate 196 near Holland, about a
mile south of where U.S. 31 merges with the freeway. Moments later,
Gale's truck plowed into the back of the police cruiser, then rolled
over Van Dyke's car and dragged it into a ditch, where both caught
fire.
The collision killed Van Dyke, 22, of Saugatuck. She recently had
graduated from Alma College and was preparing to start teaching at a
North Carolina elementary school.

just one more example of why pigs should not be pulling people over for
speeding

so, when is the pig going to be charged with ACCESSORY TO MURDER?
after all, if the pig hadn't pulled her over in the first place, then she
would still be
alive now wouldn't she?

[Larry Bud]

Post by laura bush - VEHICULAR HOMICIDE
http://www.mlive.com/news/sanews/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1138447556318260.xml&coll=9
Trucker pleads no contest in traffic-stop death
Saturday, January 28, 2006

What do you expect? You keep voting in people who demand "equality" at
any price.

[i***@medved.com]

Laura Bush,
Hello, my name is Ian VanDyke, I know this is 12 years later but Emily, was/is my sister. I remember that day like it was yesterday. In the end the driver was pretty much let off the hook and has, maybe still is, living in a nursing home with round the clack care so that he can live a normal life and not be in pain due to his condition. If you ask me he should have been left to rot, but then again I do have a biased opinion on the mater. On that fateful day, not only did I loose my sister but I lost my mother as well. Though my mother is still alive the emotional trauma that she has incurred left her in a place that is not good at all. My mother now suffers from age on set dymentia that got triggered on this day.