the juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins

[Lazypierrot]

I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins" in the following passage means, especially the adjective "juicier." I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of our hunter-gatherer origins.


Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote forests and fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential part of the cultural identity.


Cordially,

LP

[Jack]

On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:28:43 -0800 (PST), Lazypierrot

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins" in the following passage means, especially the adjective "juicier." I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of our hunter-gatherer origins.
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote forests and fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential part of the cultural identity.

The "hunter/gatherer" origins. The author is calling the 'hunter' half
juicier, compared to the 'gatherer' half. He's saying meat is

[Katy Jennison]

Post by Jack
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:28:43 -0800 (PST), Lazypierrot

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins" in the following passage means, especially the adjective "juicier." I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of our hunter-gatherer origins.
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote forests and fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential part of the cultural identity.

The "hunter/gatherer" origins. The author is calling the 'hunter' half
juicier, compared to the 'gatherer' half. He's saying meat is juicier
than vegetables.

Also that hunting can be seen (by the author of the passage, at any
rate, and/or the supposed audience for it) as more exciting, sexier,
etc, as opposed to the dull and boring activity of gathering stuff.

[Peter T. Daniels]

Post by Katy Jennison

Post by Jack
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:28:43 -0800 (PST), Lazypierrot

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins" in the following passage means, especially the adjective "juicier." I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of our hunter-gatherer origins.
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote forests and fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential part of the cultural identity.

The "hunter/gatherer" origins. The author is calling the 'hunter' half
juicier, compared to the 'gatherer' half. He's saying meat is juicier
than vegetables.

Also that hunting can be seen (by the author of the passage, at any
rate, and/or the supposed audience for it) as more exciting, sexier,
etc, as opposed to the dull and boring activity of gathering stuff.

The latter, of course, being mere women's work -- which also, as it
happens, usually provides more calories for the band's nutrition.

[Quinn C]

Post by Katy Jennison

Post by Jack
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:28:43 -0800 (PST), Lazypierrot

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer
origins" in the following passage means, especially the adjective
"juicier." I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of
our hunter-gatherer origins.
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the
juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote
forests and fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential
part of the cultural identity.

The "hunter/gatherer" origins. The author is calling the 'hunter' half
juicier, compared to the 'gatherer' half. He's saying meat is juicier
than vegetables.

Also that hunting can be seen (by the author of the passage, at any
rate, and/or the supposed audience for it) as more exciting, sexier,
etc, as opposed to the dull and boring activity of gathering stuff.

I wasn't able to guess that from the part in quotes alone, though.
"Juicy" let's me think of fruit before meat. So I don't think it's a
great choice of word.

[Quinn C]

On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 17:55:04 -0500, Quinn C

Post by Quinn C

Post by Katy Jennison

Post by Jack
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:28:43 -0800 (PST), Lazypierrot

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer
origins" in the following passage means, especially the adjective
"juicier." I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of
our hunter-gatherer origins.
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the
juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote
forests and fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential
part of the cultural identity.

The "hunter/gatherer" origins. The author is calling the 'hunter' half
juicier, compared to the 'gatherer' half. He's saying meat is juicier
than vegetables.

Also that hunting can be seen (by the author of the passage, at any
rate, and/or the supposed audience for it) as more exciting, sexier,
etc, as opposed to the dull and boring activity of gathering stuff.

I wasn't able to guess that from the part in quotes alone, though.
"Juicy" let's me think of fruit before meat. So I don't think it's a
great choice of word.

Both "juicy" and "meaty" are used in AmE without any reference to
anything edible. Someone may discuss the "juicy details" of another
couple's marriage problems, and the lawyers will get down to the
"meaty details" of the division of property.

Exactly - therefore "the juicier half of our hunter-gather origins"
could not only be hunting, or gathering, but also the sex that was had
during either of those activities. It's very open to interpretation.

[Tony Cooper]

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:35:56 -0500, Quinn C

Post by Quinn C

On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 17:55:04 -0500, Quinn C

Post by Quinn C

Post by Katy Jennison

Post by Jack
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:28:43 -0800 (PST), Lazypierrot

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer
origins" in the following passage means, especially the adjective
"juicier." I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of
our hunter-gatherer origins.
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the
juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote
forests and fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential
part of the cultural identity.

The "hunter/gatherer" origins. The author is calling the 'hunter' half
juicier, compared to the 'gatherer' half. He's saying meat is juicier
than vegetables.

Also that hunting can be seen (by the author of the passage, at any
rate, and/or the supposed audience for it) as more exciting, sexier,
etc, as opposed to the dull and boring activity of gathering stuff.

I wasn't able to guess that from the part in quotes alone, though.
"Juicy" let's me think of fruit before meat. So I don't think it's a
great choice of word.

Both "juicy" and "meaty" are used in AmE without any reference to
anything edible. Someone may discuss the "juicy details" of another
couple's marriage problems, and the lawyers will get down to the
"meaty details" of the division of property.

Exactly - therefore "the juicier half of our hunter-gather origins"
could not only be hunting, or gathering, but also the sex that was had
during either of those activities. It's very open to interpretation.

You have a vivid, if not lurid, imagination. I would say the "jucier
half" could simply be the more interesting half.

[Jerry Friedman]

Post by Jack
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:28:43 -0800 (PST), Lazypierrot

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins" in the following passage means, especially the adjective "juicier." I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of our hunter-gatherer origins.
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote forests and fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential part of the cultural identity.

The "hunter/gatherer" origins. The author is calling the 'hunter' half
juicier, compared to the 'gatherer' half. He's saying meat is juicier
than vegetables.

I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

[David Kleinecke]

Post by Jerry Friedman

Post by Jack
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:28:43 -0800 (PST), Lazypierrot

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins" in the following passage means, especially the adjective "juicier." I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of our hunter-gatherer origins.
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote forests and fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential part of the cultural identity.

The "hunter/gatherer" origins. The author is calling the 'hunter' half
juicier, compared to the 'gatherer' half. He's saying meat is juicier
than vegetables.

I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

There are a number of "tribes" in the Amazon basin in South
America where the women stayed home and gardened while the men
hunted. They weren't nomadic but did tend to move into new
quarters every few years. The Amazon lowlands may be full of
life but it not well-supplied with potential foodstuff for
humans.

[Peter Moylan]

Post by Jerry Friedman

Post by Jack
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:28:43 -0800 (PST), Lazypierrot

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer
origins" in the following passage means, especially the adjective
"juicier." I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half
of our hunter-gatherer origins.
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done,
"the juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote
forests and fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential
part of the cultural identity.

The "hunter/gatherer" origins. The author is calling the 'hunter'
half juicier, compared to the 'gatherer' half. He's saying meat is
juicier than vegetables.

I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

In my case it's hunting. This growing season I'm determined not to let
the snails destroy all my vegetables, so each evening, after dark, I go
out with a torch to hunt them down.

It rained a couple of days ago, and I managed to catch about 20 snails.
Usually it's only one or two.

[Peter Duncanson [BrE]]

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 17:07:56 +1100, Peter Moylan

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Jerry Friedman

Post by Jack
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:28:43 -0800 (PST), Lazypierrot

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer
origins" in the following passage means, especially the adjective
"juicier." I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half
of our hunter-gatherer origins.
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done,
"the juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote
forests and fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential
part of the cultural identity.

The "hunter/gatherer" origins. The author is calling the 'hunter'
half juicier, compared to the 'gatherer' half. He's saying meat is
juicier than vegetables.

I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

In my case it's hunting. This growing season I'm determined not to let
the snails destroy all my vegetables, so each evening, after dark, I go
out with a torch to hunt them down.

According to the OED the earliest sense of "hunt" is:

1.a. To go in pursuit of wild animals or game; to engage in the
chase. Also of animals: to pursue their prey.
c1000....

This sense is a couple of centuries later:

3.a. To search, seek (after or for anything), esp. with eagerness
and exertion.

Post by Peter Moylan
It rained a couple of days ago, and I managed to catch about 20 snails.
Usually it's only one or two.

[Jerry Friedman]

...

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

In my case it's hunting. This growing season I'm determined not to let
the snails destroy all my vegetables, so each evening, after dark, I go
out with a torch to hunt them down.
It rained a couple of days ago, and I managed to catch about 20 snails.
Usually it's only one or two.

Do they supplement your tribe's calorie intake?

Sorry, stupid question. Of course Australian snails are poisonous.

[Peter Moylan]

On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 11:08:01 PM UTC-7, Peter Moylan
...

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

In my case it's hunting. This growing season I'm determined not to
let the snails destroy all my vegetables, so each evening, after
dark, I go out with a torch to hunt them down.
It rained a couple of days ago, and I managed to catch about 20
snails. Usually it's only one or two.

Do they supplement your tribe's calorie intake?
Sorry, stupid question. Of course Australian snails are poisonous.

I step on them, cruel person that I am. The magpies clean up the residue
the next day. The magpies appear to be healthy.

[occam]

Post by Jerry Friedman

Post by Jack
On Sun, 3 Nov 2019 21:28:43 -0800 (PST), Lazypierrot

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer
origins" in the following passage means, especially the adjective
"juicier."  I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of
our hunter-gatherer origins.
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the
juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote forests
and fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential part of the
cultural identity.

The "hunter/gatherer" origins. The author is calling the 'hunter' half
juicier, compared to the 'gatherer' half.  He's saying meat is juicier
than vegetables.

I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

It's gathering if you are human. You pick them up as you would fruit.
It's hunting if you are a slow moving animal (relative to the snail),
involving a chase.

To anticipate your next question, the description of the resulting meal
should be "juicy" rather than "meaty".

[Richard Heathfield]

<snip>

Post by occam

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

It's gathering if you are human. You pick them up as you would fruit.
It's hunting if you are a slow moving animal (relative to the snail),
involving a chase.

Consider a spherical snail in a vacuum.

The snail makes one orbit around the earth every 93 minutes. Its apogee
and perigee are 6881km and 6879km respectively from the earth's centre.

You may assume that the snail's shell protects it from the deleterious
consequences of the high-altitude and low-pressure aspects of its
environment.

You are in the same orbit, but you are 1km behind the snail. You are hungry.

Q1: what is your best strategy for capturing the snail?
Q2: does your answer to Q1 make you a hunter, a gatherer, both, or neither?

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

Post by Richard Heathfield
<snip>

Post by occam

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

It's gathering if you are human. You pick them up as you would fruit.
It's hunting if you are a slow moving animal (relative to the snail),
involving a chase.

Consider a spherical snail in a vacuum.
The snail makes one orbit around the earth every 93 minutes. Its
apogee and perigee are 6881km and 6879km respectively from the earth's
centre.
You may assume that the snail's shell protects it from the deleterious
consequences of the high-altitude and low-pressure aspects of its
environment.
You are in the same orbit, but you are 1km behind the snail. You are hungry.
Q1: what is your best strategy for capturing the snail?
Q2: does your answer to Q1 make you a hunter, a gatherer, both, or neither?

This kind of question makes my blood boil.

[Richard Heathfield]

Post by Kerr-Mudd,John

Post by Richard Heathfield
<snip>

Post by occam

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

It's gathering if you are human. You pick them up as you would fruit.
It's hunting if you are a slow moving animal (relative to the snail),
involving a chase.

Consider a spherical snail in a vacuum.
The snail makes one orbit around the earth every 93 minutes. Its
apogee and perigee are 6881km and 6879km respectively from the earth's
centre.
You may assume that the snail's shell protects it from the deleterious
consequences of the high-altitude and low-pressure aspects of its
environment.
You are in the same orbit, but you are 1km behind the snail. You are hungry.
Q1: what is your best strategy for capturing the snail?
Q2: does your answer to Q1 make you a hunter, a gatherer, both, or neither?

This kind of question makes my blood boil.

If it helps, you can have a spacesuit too.

Alas, the temptation to write "consider a spherical snail" was too great
to resist.

[Peter Moylan]

Post by Richard Heathfield
<snip>

Post by occam

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

It's gathering if you are human. You pick them up as you would
fruit. It's hunting if you are a slow moving animal (relative to
the snail), involving a chase.

Consider a spherical snail in a vacuum.
The snail makes one orbit around the earth every 93 minutes. Its
apogee and perigee are 6881km and 6879km respectively from the
earth's centre.
You may assume that the snail's shell protects it from the
deleterious consequences of the high-altitude and low-pressure
aspects of its environment.
You are in the same orbit, but you are 1km behind the snail. You are hungry.
Q1: what is your best strategy for capturing the snail? Q2: does your
answer to Q1 make you a hunter, a gatherer, both, or neither?

May I change orbit by throwing away the snails I've already caught?

There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in a
box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails will
arrive almost immediately.

[Richard Heathfield]

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Richard Heathfield
<snip>

Post by occam

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

It's gathering if you are human. You pick them up as you would
fruit. It's hunting if you are a slow moving animal (relative to
the snail), involving a chase.

Consider a spherical snail in a vacuum.
The snail makes one orbit around the earth every 93 minutes. Its
apogee and perigee are 6881km and 6879km respectively from the
earth's centre.
You may assume that the snail's shell protects it from the
deleterious consequences of the high-altitude and low-pressure
aspects of its environment.
You are in the same orbit, but you are 1km behind the snail. You are
 hungry.
Q1: what is your best strategy for capturing the snail? Q2: does your
answer to Q1 make you a hunter, a gatherer, both, or neither?

May I change orbit by throwing away the snails I've already caught?

Yes, you can change orbit (either in that way or in more traditional ways).

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in a
box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails will
arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by putting
down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much that they dive
in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)... and then they drown,
a la Duke of Clarence.

But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere near
Tesco own-brand.

[occam]

Post by Richard Heathfield

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Richard Heathfield
<snip>

Post by occam

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

It's gathering if you are human. You pick them up as you would
fruit. It's hunting if you are a slow moving animal (relative to
the snail), involving a chase.

Consider a spherical snail in a vacuum.
The snail makes one orbit around the earth every 93 minutes. Its
apogee and perigee are 6881km and 6879km respectively from the
earth's centre.
You may assume that the snail's shell protects it from the
deleterious consequences of the high-altitude and low-pressure
aspects of its environment.
You are in the same orbit, but you are 1km behind the snail. You are
 hungry.
Q1: what is your best strategy for capturing the snail? Q2: does your
answer to Q1 make you a hunter, a gatherer, both, or neither?

May I change orbit by throwing away the snails I've already caught?

Yes, you can change orbit (either in that way or in more traditional ways).

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in a
box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails will
arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by putting
down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much that they dive
in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)... and then they drown,
a la Duke of Clarence.
But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere near
Tesco own-brand.

What about Australian XXXX beer, or Newcastle Brown Ale (oops, wrong
Newcastle!).

[Richard Heathfield]

<snip>

Post by occam

Post by Richard Heathfield

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in a
box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails will
arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by putting
down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much that they dive
in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)... and then they drown,
a la Duke of Clarence.
But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere near
Tesco own-brand.

What about Australian XXXX beer, or Newcastle Brown Ale (oops, wrong
Newcastle!).

I never tried. I, too, have standards.

[charles]

Post by Richard Heathfield
<snip>

Post by occam

Post by Richard Heathfield

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in a
box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails will
arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by putting
down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much that they dive
in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)... and then they drown,
a la Duke of Clarence.
But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere near
Tesco own-brand.

What about Australian XXXX beer, or Newcastle Brown Ale (oops, wrong
Newcastle!).

I never tried. I, too, have standards.

what's wrong with 'Newky' - apart from the fact it's not brewed in Newcastle

[Richard Heathfield]

Post by charles

Post by Richard Heathfield
<snip>

Post by occam

Post by Richard Heathfield

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in a
box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails will
arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by putting
down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much that they dive
in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)... and then they drown,
a la Duke of Clarence.
But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere near
Tesco own-brand.

What about Australian XXXX beer, or Newcastle Brown Ale (oops, wrong
Newcastle!).

I never tried. I, too, have standards.

what's wrong with 'Newky' - apart from the fact it's not brewed in Newcastle

https://xkcd.com/1534/

[Quinn C]

Post by charles

Post by Richard Heathfield
<snip>

Post by occam

Post by Richard Heathfield

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in a
box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails will
arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by putting
down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much that they dive
in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)... and then they drown,
a la Duke of Clarence.
But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere near
Tesco own-brand.

What about Australian XXXX beer, or Newcastle Brown Ale (oops, wrong
Newcastle!).

I never tried. I, too, have standards.

what's wrong with 'Newky' - apart from the fact it's not brewed in Newcastle

I've had it once at a place where it was the only thing on tap. I've
not ad it since, when there were other choices.

[charles]

Post by charles

Post by Richard Heathfield
<snip>

Post by occam

Post by Richard Heathfield

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in
a box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails
will arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by
putting down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much that
they dive in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)... and
then they drown, a la Duke of Clarence.
But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere
near Tesco own-brand.

What about Australian XXXX beer, or Newcastle Brown Ale (oops, wrong
Newcastle!).

I never tried. I, too, have standards.

what's wrong with 'Newky' - apart from the fact it's not brewed in Newcastle

I've had it once at a place where it was the only thing on tap. I've not
ad it since, when there were other choices.

never seen it on tap, it's always bottled, but I suppose in its home
territory it could be a draught beer, but the Wiki article implies it was
always a bottled product at home, but can be got in the USA from a keg..
Now brewed in the Nethrlands

[Peter Moylan]

Post by Richard Heathfield

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in
a box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails
will arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by
putting down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much that
they dive in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)... and
then they drown, a la Duke of Clarence.
But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere
near Tesco own-brand.

Now I see where I went wrong. I tried Aldi beer. My theory was that if
it was a beer that I'd be willing to drink myself, I shouldn't waste it
on the snails. It turns out that not even slugs and snails will drink
Aldi beer.

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:43:53 GMT, Peter Moylan

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Richard Heathfield

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in
a box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails
will arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by
putting down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much that
they dive in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)... and
then they drown, a la Duke of Clarence.
But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere
near Tesco own-brand.

Now I see where I went wrong. I tried Aldi beer. My theory was that if
it was a beer that I'd be willing to drink myself, I shouldn't waste it
on the snails. It turns out that not even slugs and snails will drink
Aldi beer.

Our Aldi (UK) does "Harpers" which is either Shepherd Neame or Marston's
in disguise, depending on who got the contract recently. The Marston ones
are quite fine, IMHO.

https://www.aldi.co.uk/medusa-ruby-red-ale/p/071810110551600

(Specially designed to make you want to pay £1.25 for proper Hobgoblin.)


You might also find your Aldi beer is contracted down to a price with a
local big brewer.

[If it comes in a can I can't help you].

[charles]

Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:43:53 GMT, Peter Moylan

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Richard Heathfield

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in
a box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails
will arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by
putting down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much that
they dive in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)... and
then they drown, a la Duke of Clarence.
But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere
near Tesco own-brand.

Now I see where I went wrong. I tried Aldi beer. My theory was that if
it was a beer that I'd be willing to drink myself, I shouldn't waste it
on the snails. It turns out that not even slugs and snails will drink
Aldi beer.

Our Aldi (UK) does "Harpers"

Perhaps I should stock some at the Edinburgh International Harp Festival
Bar? Is it drinkable?

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

Post by charles

Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Tue, 05 Nov 2019 13:43:53 GMT, Peter Moylan

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Richard Heathfield

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden
(in a box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The
snails will arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by
putting down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much
that they dive in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)...
and then they drown, a la Duke of Clarence.
But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere
near Tesco own-brand.

Now I see where I went wrong. I tried Aldi beer. My theory was that
if it was a beer that I'd be willing to drink myself, I shouldn't
waste it on the snails. It turns out that not even slugs and snails
will drink Aldi beer.

Our Aldi (UK) does "Harpers"

Perhaps I should stock some at the Edinburgh International Harp
Festival Bar? Is it drinkable?

'Medusa' is the 'Hobgoblin' equivalent ('Dark Ruby') and "Wild Bill's" is
the supposed American IPA. I can handle both, as the price is right.
Slugs might prefer the lesser hopped Medusa.
https://www.aldi.co.uk/wild-bill%27s-ipa-ale/p/071808107966300


The "Harpers" label isn't very prominent.

[Jerry Friedman]

[stalking snails]

Post by Richard Heathfield

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in a
box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails will
arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by putting
down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much that they dive
in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)... and then they drown,
a la Duke of Clarence.
But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere near
Tesco own-brand.

Wow. The ones in my mother's garden liked Rolling Rock.

[Athel Cornish-Bowden]

Post by Jerry Friedman
[stalking snails]

Post by Richard Heathfield

Post by Peter Moylan
There is of course one simple solution. Prepare a small garden (in a
box, or somewhere) and plant some lettuce seedlings. The snails will
arrive almost immediately.

I was once told that the best way to cure a slug problem was by putting
down bowls of beer for them. They love the beer so much that they dive
in (well, crawl in, but they're *thinking* dive)... and then they drown,
a la Duke of Clarence.
But it turns out that slugs have standards. They won't go anywhere near
Tesco own-brand.

Wow. The ones in my mother's garden liked Rolling Rock.

The slugs in my garden in Birmingham seem to have liked the beer I
brewed myself.

[Madhu]

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

I assume There was no collective noun for snails in the original
document which enumerated them,

[Peter Moylan]

Post by Madhu

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

I assume There was no collective noun for snails in the original
document which enumerated them,

That is easily checked. Does the original document contain the character
'@'?

[Madhu]

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Madhu

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

I assume There was no collective noun for snails in the original
document which enumerated them,

That is easily checked. Does the original document contain the

I had to look this up. If I have the correct document it is at
https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/PR-INC-00003-J-00004-00001-03636/1

But that doesn't show any images for me even when I turn on javascript.

There is an 1881 pdf at https://archive.org/details/cu31924031031184

The orthography for T looks like @

[Madhu]

Post by Madhu

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Madhu

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

I assume There was no collective noun for snails in the original
document which enumerated them,

That is easily checked. Does the original document contain the

I'm still wooshed. The only @ association I have is for array syntax in
some languages. What did you mean?

My comment (which admittedly was stupid) was that snail-gathering could
be deemed hunting if there was a collective noun for it - they could
then be deemed venery

The links [snipped] were to the book which apparently listed them first
in old english

Post by Madhu
I had to look this up. If I have the correct document it is at
https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/PR-INC-00003-J-00004-00001-03636/1
But that doesn't show any images for me even when I turn on javascript.
There is an 1881 pdf at https://archive.org/details/cu31924031031184

[Madhu]

Post by Madhu

Post by Madhu

Post by Peter Moylan

Post by Madhu

Post by Jerry Friedman
I wonder whether picking up snails is hunting or gathering.

I assume There was no collective noun for snails in the original
document which enumerated them,

That is easily checked. Does the original document contain the

some languages. What did you mean?
My comment (which admittedly was stupid) was that snail-gathering could
be deemed hunting if there was a collective noun for it - they could
then be deemed venery
The links [snipped] were to the book which apparently listed them first
in old english

Post by Madhu
I had to look this up. If I have the correct document it is at
https://cudl.lib.cam.ac.uk/view/PR-INC-00003-J-00004-00001-03636/1
But that doesn't show any images for me even when I turn on javascript.
There is an 1881 pdf at https://archive.org/details/cu31924031031184

Nevermind. @ is the orthography for a snail

[Mark Brader]

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins"
in the following passage means, especially the adjective "juicier."

More appealing. It's a food metaphor.

Post by Lazypierrot
I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of our hunter-gatherer
origins.

Besides hunting, the "other half" of being a hunter-gatherer is gathering
(wild plants that you can eat).

Post by Lazypierrot
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the
juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote forests and
fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential part of the cultural
identity.

[Lazypierrot]

Post by Mark Brader

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins"
in the following passage means, especially the adjective "juicier."

More appealing. It's a food metaphor.

Post by Lazypierrot
I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of our hunter-gatherer
origins.

Besides hunting, the "other half" of being a hunter-gatherer is gathering
(wild plants that you can eat).

Post by Lazypierrot
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the
juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote forests and
fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential part of the cultural
identity.

--
Mark Brader | "Reality aside, we would like to deploy a methodology
Toronto | -- scigen.pl (Stribling, Krohn, and Aguayo)

I wonder if eating meat is more appealing than plants.
Or, hunting animals is more appealing than gathering plants.

Cordially,

LP

[J. J. Lodder]

Post by Lazypierrot

Post by Mark Brader

Post by Lazypierrot
I would like to know what "juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins"
in the following passage means, especially the adjective "juicier."

More appealing. It's a food metaphor.

Post by Lazypierrot
I also wonder what is supposed to be the other half of our hunter-gatherer
origins.

Besides hunting, the "other half" of being a hunter-gatherer is gathering
(wild plants that you can eat).

Post by Lazypierrot
Hunting for dinner is of course what humans have always done, "the
juicier half of our hunter-gatherer origins". In many remote forests and
fishing villages, moreover, it remains an essential part of the cultural
identity.

--
Mark Brader | "Reality aside, we would like to deploy a methodology
Toronto | -- scigen.pl (Stribling, Krohn, and Aguayo)

I wonder if eating meat is more appealing than plants.
Or, hunting animals is more appealing than gathering plants.

You may ask the Chimps how they feel about it,

Jan