Discussion:
[Goanet] Poor American
Tony de Sa
2010-01-13 16:45:14 UTC
Permalink
There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.

Poor Americans


John Smith started the day early.

having set his alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.

While his coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)

was perking, he shaved with his electric razor

(MADE IN HONG KONG)

He put on a dress shirt

(MADE IN SRI LANKA),

designer jeans

(MADE IN SINGAPORE)

and tennis shoes

(MADE IN KOREA)

After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet

(MADE IN INDIA)

he sat down with his calculator

(MADE IN MEXICO)

to see how much he could spend today. After setting his watch

(MADE IN TAIWAN )

to the radio

(MADE IN INDIA )

he got in his car

(MADE IN GERMANY )

filled it with GAS

(from Saudi Arabia )

and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB.

At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day checking his
Computer

(made in MALAYSIA ),

John decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals

(MADE IN BRAZIL),

poured himself a glass of wine

(MADE IN FRANCE)

and turned on his TV

(MADE IN INDONESIA),

and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM A PRESIDENT

MADE IN KENYA
================
GOD BLESS AMERICA. UP THE STARS AND STRIPES.
--
Tony de Sa
tonydesa at gmail.com
M : +91 9975 162 897
-Ph. : +91 832 2470 148

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Samir Kelekar
2010-01-13 17:40:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
And finally came on Goanet, and posted how great America is!
We all know what the real name of John Smith is. :-)

samir
floriano
2010-01-13 19:27:42 UTC
Permalink
And instead of growing ulcers, he relaxed
cause he had a good goan friend who had taught him the trick of being
SUCEGAD
:)
Cheers
flo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony de Sa" <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>
To: "Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:15 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Poor American


and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
Post by Tony de Sa
Tony de Sa
Frederick Noronha
2010-01-13 18:18:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
to the radio
(MADE IN INDIA )
Tony, Sir! Please tell me where you can get a decent made-in-India
radio! I have been trying unsucessfully for ages now, and am finally
reduced to listening to Internet radio, using the BMP Free Software
option. [http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080628025431153/BMPx.html]

As a radio fan, I've struggled from my times as a sixth-standard
student trying to rig up my own Jetking "pocket" transistor in the
1960 and 1970s (Rs 65, if I recall right), to gifting myself a largish
four-band Phillips receiver that cost exactly a month's salary when I
quit a Goa-based newspaper in 1987 (a princely Rs 1060 then!)

Prior to this, while in school, my dad bought a three-in-one (LP
records, AM and MW!) which was the size of a big trunk from Mr Dalal
(at Mapusa, I think... or maybe Panjim) for Rs 1500. After using it
well for awhile, we fiddled hard and long with the valves behind,
hoping they would somehow light up and catch some distant radio
station!

Those were the days when DX-ing (tuning into 'distant' and 'unknown'
radio stations, hence the term DX) was still a hobby. ]

Remember 73s, anyone?

After that, sometimes in the 1990s when it was more possible to access
foreign products, I tried my luck with Sony digital radios. Goa's high
humidity probably was behind the problem of them not lasting long. My
technologically-challenged inabilities to build outdoor antennas
didn't help.

Even in days when radio is seen as dead, I still remember the pleasure
this simple instrument once offered us. For instance, there was this
radio play on the Voice of America, which sounded so realistic and
dramatic... I could almost recall still what the plot was about.
Post by Tony de Sa
From a tiny Goa largely isolated from the outside world, we tried
'catching' some distant stations whenever possible. There were 'free'
Bible courses (not Catholic, of course!) to tempt you into tuning in
more frequently. I managed to get books to study Dutch, German and
Russian -- and worked on all equally unsucessfully -- through the
radio stations themselves.

After sending in ten (or was it 20?) international reply coupons, each
worth Rs 2.50 in those days, I got access to a neat, blue tee-shirt
which said in bright yellow alphabets (or, "letters of the alphabet",
as Cecil would note): 'Keep in touch -- Radio Sweden' on it. After
wearing it for five years, I passed it on to my brother, who got into
it for probably another two! In 1998, a chance to visit Stockholm
actually took me to visit the towers of Radio Sweden, and meet up with
the Brazilian lady who manned the international services then!

We got tourist brochures showing the wonderful wildlife of (then)
Apartheid-ruled South Africa, and "No neutron bomb!" badges from Erich
Honecker's German Democratic Republic (though I later reached West
Berlin just as Die Berliner Mauer was being chipped away in 1990 as
both sides of the divided city drew Third World journalists, trying to
impress how "superior" their political system was compared to the
other.

It wasn't a small world then, but the radio waves made it somewhat so...

The memories that author Domnic "Domnic's Goa" Fernandes put across of
All India Radio some time ago brought back a whole lot of memories. Of
course, those were times dominated by "political correctness", and so
the programmes on AIR-Panaji were heavily dominated by a classical
fare, and a lot of pan-Indian (rather than regional, Goan) content.

The afternoon English-Konkani sessions did strike a chord, of course.
Imelda Tavora, who has just released a second book of her writing, a
sequeal to her earlier autobiography, was a household name, and the
successor of Emissora Goa played a key role in keeping local Konkani
music (in particular, the cantaram) alive and kicking... specially by
connecting the diaspora Bombay Goans community with home. Maybe Alfred
Rose, Chris Perry, Lorna and the other Bombay-based personalities
wouldn't have been such big figures minus radio.

We also tuned in to the occasional radio tiatr, and Saturday Date came
in from Bombay from 10 to 11 pm -- when the wind was favourable!
Getting the Wednesday half-hour of Western music from the same source
was also a struggle.

At one time, in the 1970s or 1980s, if you walked by a village street
in the morning, every second Christian house seemed to be tuned in to
Radio Ceylon/later, the SLBC. Wonder where are those Fernando and
other popular RJs (radio jockeys, to use today's term) who seemed to
be having a fun time on the airwaves! The more affluent families in
our parts of Bardez would tune in to Radio Australia, at 11-ish in the
morning... as this station needed superior radio equipment to to stay
tuned in to, specially since radio airwaves propagation isn't that
successful in the daytime as compared to night.

Anyway, your above comment Tony was just an opportunity to diagress.

Still searching for a good radio. The Chinese, 140-200 rupees ones are
fairly useful and portable, but probably not the kind you'd use if you
still believe that the airwaves could be a window to a wide world!

For now, I'll make do with my software radio. FN

PS: Oh, I almost forgot my long time love affair with WorldSpace
(including writing articles on it). Unfortunately, this very
interesting satellite radio experiment came to a close in India on Dec
31 last (2009), when its corporate offices abruptly announced its
subscribers that its services would no longer be available in this
country. Whatever happened to Noah Samara's
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Samara] dreams!
--
Frederick Noronha
Landline :: +91-832-2409490 Mobile :: +91-9822122436
784 Saligao 403511 Goa India
marlon menezes
2010-01-13 21:46:38 UTC
Permalink
There is a Goan connection to the current American president. Fitz D'souza (http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176250.html) , in a story told to me at this year's New Year's eve party at his house in Bambolim, told me that he was one of three on the committee who decided on the scholarship application of Barack's father to come to the US. Good or bad, the rest is history.

Marlon



----- Original Message ----
From: Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>

and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM A PRESIDENT

MADE IN KENYA
================
GOD BLESS AMERICA. UP THE STARS AND STRIPES.
Mario Goveia
2010-01-13 21:03:41 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:15:14 +0530
From: Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>

There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.

Poor Americans

John Smith started the day early.

having set his alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.

While his coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:40:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Samir Kelekar <samir_kelekar at yahoo.com>
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
And finally came on Goanet, and posted how great America is!
We all know what the real name of John Smith is. :-)

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:57:42 +0530
From: "floriano" <floriano.lobo at gmail.com>

And instead of growing ulcers, he relaxed cause he had a good goan friend who had taught him the trick of being SUCEGAD:)

Mario responds:

This is so hilarious. Americans are buying all this stuff and Tony, Samir and Floriano have decided in their infinite lack of perspicacity that it is AMERICANS who can't find a good paying job in America and are therefore poor! LOL! Try selling all that stuff to poor people:-))

Samir forgot to add IT services from India to the list. Perhaps, affluent Karnatakan that he is, he is providing his services to those poor Americans for free:-))

Has any of these eminent economic analysts stopped to think where would these countries be without these purchases by Americans?

This is precisely the beauty of America - we can buy stuff from anywhere we choose to:-))

And look what happens to China when the US economy slows down:

http://www.eeo.com.cn/ens/Industry/2009/09/10/150693.shtml
Mervyn Lobo
2010-01-14 01:04:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.
Poor Americans
John Smith started the day early.
having set his alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.
-snip-
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
?


Tony,
You forwarded the above as a joke but this is no laughing matter.


Thanks to the policies of George Bush (43) and co, for the past eight years, the US
has been importing more than it exports. It now has no money to pay for its imports
and is surviving only by printing?more. The?cost of?this madness is that the US
dollar has lost about 18% of its value?during this period.


Secondly, people in the US are buying foreign goods because the few manufacturers
that are left are producing goods that US residents do not want. For example, US
residents prefer to buy foreign cars rather than US ones as:
1) Foreign cars are more dependable
and
2) They have?better fuel economy than US made ones.


Finally, the current US Govt, just like the USSR Govt of old, can be convinced that a
company is too important to fail. The Govt then pays the workers in these failed
companies to produce goods/services that no one?wants to buy.



Mervyn1144Lobo


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Mario Goveia
2010-01-14 15:41:55 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:04:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>

Thanks to the policies of George Bush (43) and co, for the past eight years, the US has been importing more than it exports. It now has no money to pay for its imports and is surviving only by printing?more. The?cost of?this madness is that the US dollar has lost about 18% of its value?during this period.

Mario responds:

To begin with, here is what is happening under President Obama's policies:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126330289707626093.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

Anyway, thanks for helping me win a bet that we would hear from you on this subject with the same tired old poppycock about President Bush - this time blaming his policies for something the US has always done, before Bush and since, i.e. extend its foreign aid by helping poorer countries by buying their products.

Most of China's vaunted foreign exchange reserves come from US imports, and the recession in the US that President Obama is working very hard to worsen, is causing all kinds of problems of overcapacity in China.

Mervyn wrote:

Secondly, people in the US are buying foreign goods because the few manufacturers that are left are producing goods that US residents do not want. For example, US residents prefer to buy foreign cars rather than US ones as:
1) Foreign cars are more dependable and
2) They have better fuel economy than US made ones.

Mario responds:

LOL! I wonder where Mervyn gets his information from.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465005,00.html

Most of the "foreign cars" sold in the US are made by foreign car manufacturers in the USA. Toyota, Honda, BMW, Mitsubishi, Mercedes-Benz, Subaru, Nissan and Hyundai all have manufacturing plants in the USA.

The manufacturing plants of foreign companies in the USA create more well paying jobs in the US than the lower paying jobs that are outsourced to foreign countries under America's relatively free trade policies.
Mario Goveia
2010-01-15 22:01:49 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:46:38 -0800 (PST)
From: marlon menezes <goacom at yahoo.com>

There is a Goan connection to the current American president. Fitz D'souza (http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176250.html) , in a story told to me at this year's New Year's eve party at his house in Bambolim, told me that he was one of three on the committee who decided on the scholarship application of Barack's father to come to the US.? Good or bad, the rest is history.

Mario responds:

Good for America's mortal enemies.? Bad for everyone else.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/12/obama-approval-rating-hits-new-low-latest-national-opinion-poll/

Excerpt:

President Obama's job approval rating has hit a new low, according to the latest national opinion poll released Monday.
[end of excerpt]

I wonder if Mr. Fitz D'Souza can find me George Obama's address so I can help him out since his affluent brother apparently refuses to do so.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/01/31/george.obama.arrest/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

http://shapblog40.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/article09obama-brother-2010/
Tony de Sa
2010-01-13 16:45:14 UTC
Permalink
There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.

Poor Americans


John Smith started the day early.

having set his alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.

While his coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)

was perking, he shaved with his electric razor

(MADE IN HONG KONG)

He put on a dress shirt

(MADE IN SRI LANKA),

designer jeans

(MADE IN SINGAPORE)

and tennis shoes

(MADE IN KOREA)

After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet

(MADE IN INDIA)

he sat down with his calculator

(MADE IN MEXICO)

to see how much he could spend today. After setting his watch

(MADE IN TAIWAN )

to the radio

(MADE IN INDIA )

he got in his car

(MADE IN GERMANY )

filled it with GAS

(from Saudi Arabia )

and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB.

At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day checking his
Computer

(made in MALAYSIA ),

John decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals

(MADE IN BRAZIL),

poured himself a glass of wine

(MADE IN FRANCE)

and turned on his TV

(MADE IN INDONESIA),

and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM A PRESIDENT

MADE IN KENYA
================
GOD BLESS AMERICA. UP THE STARS AND STRIPES.
--
Tony de Sa
tonydesa at gmail.com
M : +91 9975 162 897
-Ph. : +91 832 2470 148

^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Samir Kelekar
2010-01-13 17:40:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
And finally came on Goanet, and posted how great America is!
We all know what the real name of John Smith is. :-)

samir
floriano
2010-01-13 19:27:42 UTC
Permalink
And instead of growing ulcers, he relaxed
cause he had a good goan friend who had taught him the trick of being
SUCEGAD
:)
Cheers
flo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony de Sa" <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>
To: "Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:15 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Poor American


and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
Post by Tony de Sa
Tony de Sa
Frederick Noronha
2010-01-13 18:18:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
to the radio
(MADE IN INDIA )
Tony, Sir! Please tell me where you can get a decent made-in-India
radio! I have been trying unsucessfully for ages now, and am finally
reduced to listening to Internet radio, using the BMP Free Software
option. [http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080628025431153/BMPx.html]

As a radio fan, I've struggled from my times as a sixth-standard
student trying to rig up my own Jetking "pocket" transistor in the
1960 and 1970s (Rs 65, if I recall right), to gifting myself a largish
four-band Phillips receiver that cost exactly a month's salary when I
quit a Goa-based newspaper in 1987 (a princely Rs 1060 then!)

Prior to this, while in school, my dad bought a three-in-one (LP
records, AM and MW!) which was the size of a big trunk from Mr Dalal
(at Mapusa, I think... or maybe Panjim) for Rs 1500. After using it
well for awhile, we fiddled hard and long with the valves behind,
hoping they would somehow light up and catch some distant radio
station!

Those were the days when DX-ing (tuning into 'distant' and 'unknown'
radio stations, hence the term DX) was still a hobby. ]

Remember 73s, anyone?

After that, sometimes in the 1990s when it was more possible to access
foreign products, I tried my luck with Sony digital radios. Goa's high
humidity probably was behind the problem of them not lasting long. My
technologically-challenged inabilities to build outdoor antennas
didn't help.

Even in days when radio is seen as dead, I still remember the pleasure
this simple instrument once offered us. For instance, there was this
radio play on the Voice of America, which sounded so realistic and
dramatic... I could almost recall still what the plot was about.
Post by Tony de Sa
From a tiny Goa largely isolated from the outside world, we tried
'catching' some distant stations whenever possible. There were 'free'
Bible courses (not Catholic, of course!) to tempt you into tuning in
more frequently. I managed to get books to study Dutch, German and
Russian -- and worked on all equally unsucessfully -- through the
radio stations themselves.

After sending in ten (or was it 20?) international reply coupons, each
worth Rs 2.50 in those days, I got access to a neat, blue tee-shirt
which said in bright yellow alphabets (or, "letters of the alphabet",
as Cecil would note): 'Keep in touch -- Radio Sweden' on it. After
wearing it for five years, I passed it on to my brother, who got into
it for probably another two! In 1998, a chance to visit Stockholm
actually took me to visit the towers of Radio Sweden, and meet up with
the Brazilian lady who manned the international services then!

We got tourist brochures showing the wonderful wildlife of (then)
Apartheid-ruled South Africa, and "No neutron bomb!" badges from Erich
Honecker's German Democratic Republic (though I later reached West
Berlin just as Die Berliner Mauer was being chipped away in 1990 as
both sides of the divided city drew Third World journalists, trying to
impress how "superior" their political system was compared to the
other.

It wasn't a small world then, but the radio waves made it somewhat so...

The memories that author Domnic "Domnic's Goa" Fernandes put across of
All India Radio some time ago brought back a whole lot of memories. Of
course, those were times dominated by "political correctness", and so
the programmes on AIR-Panaji were heavily dominated by a classical
fare, and a lot of pan-Indian (rather than regional, Goan) content.

The afternoon English-Konkani sessions did strike a chord, of course.
Imelda Tavora, who has just released a second book of her writing, a
sequeal to her earlier autobiography, was a household name, and the
successor of Emissora Goa played a key role in keeping local Konkani
music (in particular, the cantaram) alive and kicking... specially by
connecting the diaspora Bombay Goans community with home. Maybe Alfred
Rose, Chris Perry, Lorna and the other Bombay-based personalities
wouldn't have been such big figures minus radio.

We also tuned in to the occasional radio tiatr, and Saturday Date came
in from Bombay from 10 to 11 pm -- when the wind was favourable!
Getting the Wednesday half-hour of Western music from the same source
was also a struggle.

At one time, in the 1970s or 1980s, if you walked by a village street
in the morning, every second Christian house seemed to be tuned in to
Radio Ceylon/later, the SLBC. Wonder where are those Fernando and
other popular RJs (radio jockeys, to use today's term) who seemed to
be having a fun time on the airwaves! The more affluent families in
our parts of Bardez would tune in to Radio Australia, at 11-ish in the
morning... as this station needed superior radio equipment to to stay
tuned in to, specially since radio airwaves propagation isn't that
successful in the daytime as compared to night.

Anyway, your above comment Tony was just an opportunity to diagress.

Still searching for a good radio. The Chinese, 140-200 rupees ones are
fairly useful and portable, but probably not the kind you'd use if you
still believe that the airwaves could be a window to a wide world!

For now, I'll make do with my software radio. FN

PS: Oh, I almost forgot my long time love affair with WorldSpace
(including writing articles on it). Unfortunately, this very
interesting satellite radio experiment came to a close in India on Dec
31 last (2009), when its corporate offices abruptly announced its
subscribers that its services would no longer be available in this
country. Whatever happened to Noah Samara's
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Samara] dreams!
--
Frederick Noronha
Landline :: +91-832-2409490 Mobile :: +91-9822122436
784 Saligao 403511 Goa India
marlon menezes
2010-01-13 21:46:38 UTC
Permalink
There is a Goan connection to the current American president. Fitz D'souza (http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176250.html) , in a story told to me at this year's New Year's eve party at his house in Bambolim, told me that he was one of three on the committee who decided on the scholarship application of Barack's father to come to the US. Good or bad, the rest is history.

Marlon



----- Original Message ----
From: Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>

and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM A PRESIDENT

MADE IN KENYA
================
GOD BLESS AMERICA. UP THE STARS AND STRIPES.
Mario Goveia
2010-01-13 21:03:41 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:15:14 +0530
From: Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>

There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.

Poor Americans

John Smith started the day early.

having set his alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.

While his coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:40:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Samir Kelekar <samir_kelekar at yahoo.com>
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
And finally came on Goanet, and posted how great America is!
We all know what the real name of John Smith is. :-)

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:57:42 +0530
From: "floriano" <floriano.lobo at gmail.com>

And instead of growing ulcers, he relaxed cause he had a good goan friend who had taught him the trick of being SUCEGAD:)

Mario responds:

This is so hilarious. Americans are buying all this stuff and Tony, Samir and Floriano have decided in their infinite lack of perspicacity that it is AMERICANS who can't find a good paying job in America and are therefore poor! LOL! Try selling all that stuff to poor people:-))

Samir forgot to add IT services from India to the list. Perhaps, affluent Karnatakan that he is, he is providing his services to those poor Americans for free:-))

Has any of these eminent economic analysts stopped to think where would these countries be without these purchases by Americans?

This is precisely the beauty of America - we can buy stuff from anywhere we choose to:-))

And look what happens to China when the US economy slows down:

http://www.eeo.com.cn/ens/Industry/2009/09/10/150693.shtml
Mervyn Lobo
2010-01-14 01:04:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.
Poor Americans
John Smith started the day early.
having set his alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.
-snip-
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
?


Tony,
You forwarded the above as a joke but this is no laughing matter.


Thanks to the policies of George Bush (43) and co, for the past eight years, the US
has been importing more than it exports. It now has no money to pay for its imports
and is surviving only by printing?more. The?cost of?this madness is that the US
dollar has lost about 18% of its value?during this period.


Secondly, people in the US are buying foreign goods because the few manufacturers
that are left are producing goods that US residents do not want. For example, US
residents prefer to buy foreign cars rather than US ones as:
1) Foreign cars are more dependable
and
2) They have?better fuel economy than US made ones.


Finally, the current US Govt, just like the USSR Govt of old, can be convinced that a
company is too important to fail. The Govt then pays the workers in these failed
companies to produce goods/services that no one?wants to buy.



Mervyn1144Lobo


__________________________________________________________________
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Mario Goveia
2010-01-14 15:41:55 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:04:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>

Thanks to the policies of George Bush (43) and co, for the past eight years, the US has been importing more than it exports. It now has no money to pay for its imports and is surviving only by printing?more. The?cost of?this madness is that the US dollar has lost about 18% of its value?during this period.

Mario responds:

To begin with, here is what is happening under President Obama's policies:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126330289707626093.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

Anyway, thanks for helping me win a bet that we would hear from you on this subject with the same tired old poppycock about President Bush - this time blaming his policies for something the US has always done, before Bush and since, i.e. extend its foreign aid by helping poorer countries by buying their products.

Most of China's vaunted foreign exchange reserves come from US imports, and the recession in the US that President Obama is working very hard to worsen, is causing all kinds of problems of overcapacity in China.

Mervyn wrote:

Secondly, people in the US are buying foreign goods because the few manufacturers that are left are producing goods that US residents do not want. For example, US residents prefer to buy foreign cars rather than US ones as:
1) Foreign cars are more dependable and
2) They have better fuel economy than US made ones.

Mario responds:

LOL! I wonder where Mervyn gets his information from.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465005,00.html

Most of the "foreign cars" sold in the US are made by foreign car manufacturers in the USA. Toyota, Honda, BMW, Mitsubishi, Mercedes-Benz, Subaru, Nissan and Hyundai all have manufacturing plants in the USA.

The manufacturing plants of foreign companies in the USA create more well paying jobs in the US than the lower paying jobs that are outsourced to foreign countries under America's relatively free trade policies.
Mario Goveia
2010-01-15 22:01:49 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:46:38 -0800 (PST)
From: marlon menezes <goacom at yahoo.com>

There is a Goan connection to the current American president. Fitz D'souza (http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176250.html) , in a story told to me at this year's New Year's eve party at his house in Bambolim, told me that he was one of three on the committee who decided on the scholarship application of Barack's father to come to the US.? Good or bad, the rest is history.

Mario responds:

Good for America's mortal enemies.? Bad for everyone else.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/12/obama-approval-rating-hits-new-low-latest-national-opinion-poll/

Excerpt:

President Obama's job approval rating has hit a new low, according to the latest national opinion poll released Monday.
[end of excerpt]

I wonder if Mr. Fitz D'Souza can find me George Obama's address so I can help him out since his affluent brother apparently refuses to do so.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/01/31/george.obama.arrest/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

http://shapblog40.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/article09obama-brother-2010/
Tony de Sa
2010-01-13 16:45:14 UTC
Permalink
There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.

Poor Americans


John Smith started the day early.

having set his alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.

While his coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)

was perking, he shaved with his electric razor

(MADE IN HONG KONG)

He put on a dress shirt

(MADE IN SRI LANKA),

designer jeans

(MADE IN SINGAPORE)

and tennis shoes

(MADE IN KOREA)

After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet

(MADE IN INDIA)

he sat down with his calculator

(MADE IN MEXICO)

to see how much he could spend today. After setting his watch

(MADE IN TAIWAN )

to the radio

(MADE IN INDIA )

he got in his car

(MADE IN GERMANY )

filled it with GAS

(from Saudi Arabia )

and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB.

At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day checking his
Computer

(made in MALAYSIA ),

John decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals

(MADE IN BRAZIL),

poured himself a glass of wine

(MADE IN FRANCE)

and turned on his TV

(MADE IN INDONESIA),

and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM A PRESIDENT

MADE IN KENYA
================
GOD BLESS AMERICA. UP THE STARS AND STRIPES.
--
Tony de Sa
tonydesa at gmail.com
M : +91 9975 162 897
-Ph. : +91 832 2470 148

^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Samir Kelekar
2010-01-13 17:40:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
And finally came on Goanet, and posted how great America is!
We all know what the real name of John Smith is. :-)

samir
floriano
2010-01-13 19:27:42 UTC
Permalink
And instead of growing ulcers, he relaxed
cause he had a good goan friend who had taught him the trick of being
SUCEGAD
:)
Cheers
flo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony de Sa" <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>
To: "Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:15 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Poor American


and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
Post by Tony de Sa
Tony de Sa
Frederick Noronha
2010-01-13 18:18:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
to the radio
(MADE IN INDIA )
Tony, Sir! Please tell me where you can get a decent made-in-India
radio! I have been trying unsucessfully for ages now, and am finally
reduced to listening to Internet radio, using the BMP Free Software
option. [http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080628025431153/BMPx.html]

As a radio fan, I've struggled from my times as a sixth-standard
student trying to rig up my own Jetking "pocket" transistor in the
1960 and 1970s (Rs 65, if I recall right), to gifting myself a largish
four-band Phillips receiver that cost exactly a month's salary when I
quit a Goa-based newspaper in 1987 (a princely Rs 1060 then!)

Prior to this, while in school, my dad bought a three-in-one (LP
records, AM and MW!) which was the size of a big trunk from Mr Dalal
(at Mapusa, I think... or maybe Panjim) for Rs 1500. After using it
well for awhile, we fiddled hard and long with the valves behind,
hoping they would somehow light up and catch some distant radio
station!

Those were the days when DX-ing (tuning into 'distant' and 'unknown'
radio stations, hence the term DX) was still a hobby. ]

Remember 73s, anyone?

After that, sometimes in the 1990s when it was more possible to access
foreign products, I tried my luck with Sony digital radios. Goa's high
humidity probably was behind the problem of them not lasting long. My
technologically-challenged inabilities to build outdoor antennas
didn't help.

Even in days when radio is seen as dead, I still remember the pleasure
this simple instrument once offered us. For instance, there was this
radio play on the Voice of America, which sounded so realistic and
dramatic... I could almost recall still what the plot was about.
Post by Tony de Sa
From a tiny Goa largely isolated from the outside world, we tried
'catching' some distant stations whenever possible. There were 'free'
Bible courses (not Catholic, of course!) to tempt you into tuning in
more frequently. I managed to get books to study Dutch, German and
Russian -- and worked on all equally unsucessfully -- through the
radio stations themselves.

After sending in ten (or was it 20?) international reply coupons, each
worth Rs 2.50 in those days, I got access to a neat, blue tee-shirt
which said in bright yellow alphabets (or, "letters of the alphabet",
as Cecil would note): 'Keep in touch -- Radio Sweden' on it. After
wearing it for five years, I passed it on to my brother, who got into
it for probably another two! In 1998, a chance to visit Stockholm
actually took me to visit the towers of Radio Sweden, and meet up with
the Brazilian lady who manned the international services then!

We got tourist brochures showing the wonderful wildlife of (then)
Apartheid-ruled South Africa, and "No neutron bomb!" badges from Erich
Honecker's German Democratic Republic (though I later reached West
Berlin just as Die Berliner Mauer was being chipped away in 1990 as
both sides of the divided city drew Third World journalists, trying to
impress how "superior" their political system was compared to the
other.

It wasn't a small world then, but the radio waves made it somewhat so...

The memories that author Domnic "Domnic's Goa" Fernandes put across of
All India Radio some time ago brought back a whole lot of memories. Of
course, those were times dominated by "political correctness", and so
the programmes on AIR-Panaji were heavily dominated by a classical
fare, and a lot of pan-Indian (rather than regional, Goan) content.

The afternoon English-Konkani sessions did strike a chord, of course.
Imelda Tavora, who has just released a second book of her writing, a
sequeal to her earlier autobiography, was a household name, and the
successor of Emissora Goa played a key role in keeping local Konkani
music (in particular, the cantaram) alive and kicking... specially by
connecting the diaspora Bombay Goans community with home. Maybe Alfred
Rose, Chris Perry, Lorna and the other Bombay-based personalities
wouldn't have been such big figures minus radio.

We also tuned in to the occasional radio tiatr, and Saturday Date came
in from Bombay from 10 to 11 pm -- when the wind was favourable!
Getting the Wednesday half-hour of Western music from the same source
was also a struggle.

At one time, in the 1970s or 1980s, if you walked by a village street
in the morning, every second Christian house seemed to be tuned in to
Radio Ceylon/later, the SLBC. Wonder where are those Fernando and
other popular RJs (radio jockeys, to use today's term) who seemed to
be having a fun time on the airwaves! The more affluent families in
our parts of Bardez would tune in to Radio Australia, at 11-ish in the
morning... as this station needed superior radio equipment to to stay
tuned in to, specially since radio airwaves propagation isn't that
successful in the daytime as compared to night.

Anyway, your above comment Tony was just an opportunity to diagress.

Still searching for a good radio. The Chinese, 140-200 rupees ones are
fairly useful and portable, but probably not the kind you'd use if you
still believe that the airwaves could be a window to a wide world!

For now, I'll make do with my software radio. FN

PS: Oh, I almost forgot my long time love affair with WorldSpace
(including writing articles on it). Unfortunately, this very
interesting satellite radio experiment came to a close in India on Dec
31 last (2009), when its corporate offices abruptly announced its
subscribers that its services would no longer be available in this
country. Whatever happened to Noah Samara's
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Samara] dreams!
--
Frederick Noronha
Landline :: +91-832-2409490 Mobile :: +91-9822122436
784 Saligao 403511 Goa India
marlon menezes
2010-01-13 21:46:38 UTC
Permalink
There is a Goan connection to the current American president. Fitz D'souza (http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176250.html) , in a story told to me at this year's New Year's eve party at his house in Bambolim, told me that he was one of three on the committee who decided on the scholarship application of Barack's father to come to the US. Good or bad, the rest is history.

Marlon



----- Original Message ----
From: Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>

and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM A PRESIDENT

MADE IN KENYA
================
GOD BLESS AMERICA. UP THE STARS AND STRIPES.
Mario Goveia
2010-01-13 21:03:41 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:15:14 +0530
From: Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>

There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.

Poor Americans

John Smith started the day early.

having set his alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.

While his coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:40:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Samir Kelekar <samir_kelekar at yahoo.com>
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
And finally came on Goanet, and posted how great America is!
We all know what the real name of John Smith is. :-)

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:57:42 +0530
From: "floriano" <floriano.lobo at gmail.com>

And instead of growing ulcers, he relaxed cause he had a good goan friend who had taught him the trick of being SUCEGAD:)

Mario responds:

This is so hilarious. Americans are buying all this stuff and Tony, Samir and Floriano have decided in their infinite lack of perspicacity that it is AMERICANS who can't find a good paying job in America and are therefore poor! LOL! Try selling all that stuff to poor people:-))

Samir forgot to add IT services from India to the list. Perhaps, affluent Karnatakan that he is, he is providing his services to those poor Americans for free:-))

Has any of these eminent economic analysts stopped to think where would these countries be without these purchases by Americans?

This is precisely the beauty of America - we can buy stuff from anywhere we choose to:-))

And look what happens to China when the US economy slows down:

http://www.eeo.com.cn/ens/Industry/2009/09/10/150693.shtml
Mervyn Lobo
2010-01-14 01:04:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.
Poor Americans
John Smith started the day early.
having set his alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.
-snip-
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
?


Tony,
You forwarded the above as a joke but this is no laughing matter.


Thanks to the policies of George Bush (43) and co, for the past eight years, the US
has been importing more than it exports. It now has no money to pay for its imports
and is surviving only by printing?more. The?cost of?this madness is that the US
dollar has lost about 18% of its value?during this period.


Secondly, people in the US are buying foreign goods because the few manufacturers
that are left are producing goods that US residents do not want. For example, US
residents prefer to buy foreign cars rather than US ones as:
1) Foreign cars are more dependable
and
2) They have?better fuel economy than US made ones.


Finally, the current US Govt, just like the USSR Govt of old, can be convinced that a
company is too important to fail. The Govt then pays the workers in these failed
companies to produce goods/services that no one?wants to buy.



Mervyn1144Lobo


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Mario Goveia
2010-01-14 15:41:55 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:04:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>

Thanks to the policies of George Bush (43) and co, for the past eight years, the US has been importing more than it exports. It now has no money to pay for its imports and is surviving only by printing?more. The?cost of?this madness is that the US dollar has lost about 18% of its value?during this period.

Mario responds:

To begin with, here is what is happening under President Obama's policies:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126330289707626093.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

Anyway, thanks for helping me win a bet that we would hear from you on this subject with the same tired old poppycock about President Bush - this time blaming his policies for something the US has always done, before Bush and since, i.e. extend its foreign aid by helping poorer countries by buying their products.

Most of China's vaunted foreign exchange reserves come from US imports, and the recession in the US that President Obama is working very hard to worsen, is causing all kinds of problems of overcapacity in China.

Mervyn wrote:

Secondly, people in the US are buying foreign goods because the few manufacturers that are left are producing goods that US residents do not want. For example, US residents prefer to buy foreign cars rather than US ones as:
1) Foreign cars are more dependable and
2) They have better fuel economy than US made ones.

Mario responds:

LOL! I wonder where Mervyn gets his information from.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465005,00.html

Most of the "foreign cars" sold in the US are made by foreign car manufacturers in the USA. Toyota, Honda, BMW, Mitsubishi, Mercedes-Benz, Subaru, Nissan and Hyundai all have manufacturing plants in the USA.

The manufacturing plants of foreign companies in the USA create more well paying jobs in the US than the lower paying jobs that are outsourced to foreign countries under America's relatively free trade policies.
Mario Goveia
2010-01-15 22:01:49 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:46:38 -0800 (PST)
From: marlon menezes <goacom at yahoo.com>

There is a Goan connection to the current American president. Fitz D'souza (http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176250.html) , in a story told to me at this year's New Year's eve party at his house in Bambolim, told me that he was one of three on the committee who decided on the scholarship application of Barack's father to come to the US.? Good or bad, the rest is history.

Mario responds:

Good for America's mortal enemies.? Bad for everyone else.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/12/obama-approval-rating-hits-new-low-latest-national-opinion-poll/

Excerpt:

President Obama's job approval rating has hit a new low, according to the latest national opinion poll released Monday.
[end of excerpt]

I wonder if Mr. Fitz D'Souza can find me George Obama's address so I can help him out since his affluent brother apparently refuses to do so.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/01/31/george.obama.arrest/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

http://shapblog40.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/article09obama-brother-2010/
Tony de Sa
2010-01-13 16:45:14 UTC
Permalink
There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.

Poor Americans


John Smith started the day early.

having set his alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.

While his coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)

was perking, he shaved with his electric razor

(MADE IN HONG KONG)

He put on a dress shirt

(MADE IN SRI LANKA),

designer jeans

(MADE IN SINGAPORE)

and tennis shoes

(MADE IN KOREA)

After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet

(MADE IN INDIA)

he sat down with his calculator

(MADE IN MEXICO)

to see how much he could spend today. After setting his watch

(MADE IN TAIWAN )

to the radio

(MADE IN INDIA )

he got in his car

(MADE IN GERMANY )

filled it with GAS

(from Saudi Arabia )

and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB.

At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day checking his
Computer

(made in MALAYSIA ),

John decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals

(MADE IN BRAZIL),

poured himself a glass of wine

(MADE IN FRANCE)

and turned on his TV

(MADE IN INDONESIA),

and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM A PRESIDENT

MADE IN KENYA
================
GOD BLESS AMERICA. UP THE STARS AND STRIPES.
--
Tony de Sa
tonydesa at gmail.com
M : +91 9975 162 897
-Ph. : +91 832 2470 148

^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Samir Kelekar
2010-01-13 17:40:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
And finally came on Goanet, and posted how great America is!
We all know what the real name of John Smith is. :-)

samir
floriano
2010-01-13 19:27:42 UTC
Permalink
And instead of growing ulcers, he relaxed
cause he had a good goan friend who had taught him the trick of being
SUCEGAD
:)
Cheers
flo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony de Sa" <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>
To: "Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:15 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Poor American


and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
Post by Tony de Sa
Tony de Sa
Frederick Noronha
2010-01-13 18:18:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
to the radio
(MADE IN INDIA )
Tony, Sir! Please tell me where you can get a decent made-in-India
radio! I have been trying unsucessfully for ages now, and am finally
reduced to listening to Internet radio, using the BMP Free Software
option. [http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080628025431153/BMPx.html]

As a radio fan, I've struggled from my times as a sixth-standard
student trying to rig up my own Jetking "pocket" transistor in the
1960 and 1970s (Rs 65, if I recall right), to gifting myself a largish
four-band Phillips receiver that cost exactly a month's salary when I
quit a Goa-based newspaper in 1987 (a princely Rs 1060 then!)

Prior to this, while in school, my dad bought a three-in-one (LP
records, AM and MW!) which was the size of a big trunk from Mr Dalal
(at Mapusa, I think... or maybe Panjim) for Rs 1500. After using it
well for awhile, we fiddled hard and long with the valves behind,
hoping they would somehow light up and catch some distant radio
station!

Those were the days when DX-ing (tuning into 'distant' and 'unknown'
radio stations, hence the term DX) was still a hobby. ]

Remember 73s, anyone?

After that, sometimes in the 1990s when it was more possible to access
foreign products, I tried my luck with Sony digital radios. Goa's high
humidity probably was behind the problem of them not lasting long. My
technologically-challenged inabilities to build outdoor antennas
didn't help.

Even in days when radio is seen as dead, I still remember the pleasure
this simple instrument once offered us. For instance, there was this
radio play on the Voice of America, which sounded so realistic and
dramatic... I could almost recall still what the plot was about.
Post by Tony de Sa
From a tiny Goa largely isolated from the outside world, we tried
'catching' some distant stations whenever possible. There were 'free'
Bible courses (not Catholic, of course!) to tempt you into tuning in
more frequently. I managed to get books to study Dutch, German and
Russian -- and worked on all equally unsucessfully -- through the
radio stations themselves.

After sending in ten (or was it 20?) international reply coupons, each
worth Rs 2.50 in those days, I got access to a neat, blue tee-shirt
which said in bright yellow alphabets (or, "letters of the alphabet",
as Cecil would note): 'Keep in touch -- Radio Sweden' on it. After
wearing it for five years, I passed it on to my brother, who got into
it for probably another two! In 1998, a chance to visit Stockholm
actually took me to visit the towers of Radio Sweden, and meet up with
the Brazilian lady who manned the international services then!

We got tourist brochures showing the wonderful wildlife of (then)
Apartheid-ruled South Africa, and "No neutron bomb!" badges from Erich
Honecker's German Democratic Republic (though I later reached West
Berlin just as Die Berliner Mauer was being chipped away in 1990 as
both sides of the divided city drew Third World journalists, trying to
impress how "superior" their political system was compared to the
other.

It wasn't a small world then, but the radio waves made it somewhat so...

The memories that author Domnic "Domnic's Goa" Fernandes put across of
All India Radio some time ago brought back a whole lot of memories. Of
course, those were times dominated by "political correctness", and so
the programmes on AIR-Panaji were heavily dominated by a classical
fare, and a lot of pan-Indian (rather than regional, Goan) content.

The afternoon English-Konkani sessions did strike a chord, of course.
Imelda Tavora, who has just released a second book of her writing, a
sequeal to her earlier autobiography, was a household name, and the
successor of Emissora Goa played a key role in keeping local Konkani
music (in particular, the cantaram) alive and kicking... specially by
connecting the diaspora Bombay Goans community with home. Maybe Alfred
Rose, Chris Perry, Lorna and the other Bombay-based personalities
wouldn't have been such big figures minus radio.

We also tuned in to the occasional radio tiatr, and Saturday Date came
in from Bombay from 10 to 11 pm -- when the wind was favourable!
Getting the Wednesday half-hour of Western music from the same source
was also a struggle.

At one time, in the 1970s or 1980s, if you walked by a village street
in the morning, every second Christian house seemed to be tuned in to
Radio Ceylon/later, the SLBC. Wonder where are those Fernando and
other popular RJs (radio jockeys, to use today's term) who seemed to
be having a fun time on the airwaves! The more affluent families in
our parts of Bardez would tune in to Radio Australia, at 11-ish in the
morning... as this station needed superior radio equipment to to stay
tuned in to, specially since radio airwaves propagation isn't that
successful in the daytime as compared to night.

Anyway, your above comment Tony was just an opportunity to diagress.

Still searching for a good radio. The Chinese, 140-200 rupees ones are
fairly useful and portable, but probably not the kind you'd use if you
still believe that the airwaves could be a window to a wide world!

For now, I'll make do with my software radio. FN

PS: Oh, I almost forgot my long time love affair with WorldSpace
(including writing articles on it). Unfortunately, this very
interesting satellite radio experiment came to a close in India on Dec
31 last (2009), when its corporate offices abruptly announced its
subscribers that its services would no longer be available in this
country. Whatever happened to Noah Samara's
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Samara] dreams!
--
Frederick Noronha
Landline :: +91-832-2409490 Mobile :: +91-9822122436
784 Saligao 403511 Goa India
marlon menezes
2010-01-13 21:46:38 UTC
Permalink
There is a Goan connection to the current American president. Fitz D'souza (http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176250.html) , in a story told to me at this year's New Year's eve party at his house in Bambolim, told me that he was one of three on the committee who decided on the scholarship application of Barack's father to come to the US. Good or bad, the rest is history.

Marlon



----- Original Message ----
From: Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>

and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM A PRESIDENT

MADE IN KENYA
================
GOD BLESS AMERICA. UP THE STARS AND STRIPES.
Mario Goveia
2010-01-13 21:03:41 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:15:14 +0530
From: Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>

There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.

Poor Americans

John Smith started the day early.

having set his alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.

While his coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:40:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Samir Kelekar <samir_kelekar at yahoo.com>
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
And finally came on Goanet, and posted how great America is!
We all know what the real name of John Smith is. :-)

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:57:42 +0530
From: "floriano" <floriano.lobo at gmail.com>

And instead of growing ulcers, he relaxed cause he had a good goan friend who had taught him the trick of being SUCEGAD:)

Mario responds:

This is so hilarious. Americans are buying all this stuff and Tony, Samir and Floriano have decided in their infinite lack of perspicacity that it is AMERICANS who can't find a good paying job in America and are therefore poor! LOL! Try selling all that stuff to poor people:-))

Samir forgot to add IT services from India to the list. Perhaps, affluent Karnatakan that he is, he is providing his services to those poor Americans for free:-))

Has any of these eminent economic analysts stopped to think where would these countries be without these purchases by Americans?

This is precisely the beauty of America - we can buy stuff from anywhere we choose to:-))

And look what happens to China when the US economy slows down:

http://www.eeo.com.cn/ens/Industry/2009/09/10/150693.shtml
Mervyn Lobo
2010-01-14 01:04:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.
Poor Americans
John Smith started the day early.
having set his alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.
-snip-
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
?


Tony,
You forwarded the above as a joke but this is no laughing matter.


Thanks to the policies of George Bush (43) and co, for the past eight years, the US
has been importing more than it exports. It now has no money to pay for its imports
and is surviving only by printing?more. The?cost of?this madness is that the US
dollar has lost about 18% of its value?during this period.


Secondly, people in the US are buying foreign goods because the few manufacturers
that are left are producing goods that US residents do not want. For example, US
residents prefer to buy foreign cars rather than US ones as:
1) Foreign cars are more dependable
and
2) They have?better fuel economy than US made ones.


Finally, the current US Govt, just like the USSR Govt of old, can be convinced that a
company is too important to fail. The Govt then pays the workers in these failed
companies to produce goods/services that no one?wants to buy.



Mervyn1144Lobo


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Mario Goveia
2010-01-14 15:41:55 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:04:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>

Thanks to the policies of George Bush (43) and co, for the past eight years, the US has been importing more than it exports. It now has no money to pay for its imports and is surviving only by printing?more. The?cost of?this madness is that the US dollar has lost about 18% of its value?during this period.

Mario responds:

To begin with, here is what is happening under President Obama's policies:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126330289707626093.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

Anyway, thanks for helping me win a bet that we would hear from you on this subject with the same tired old poppycock about President Bush - this time blaming his policies for something the US has always done, before Bush and since, i.e. extend its foreign aid by helping poorer countries by buying their products.

Most of China's vaunted foreign exchange reserves come from US imports, and the recession in the US that President Obama is working very hard to worsen, is causing all kinds of problems of overcapacity in China.

Mervyn wrote:

Secondly, people in the US are buying foreign goods because the few manufacturers that are left are producing goods that US residents do not want. For example, US residents prefer to buy foreign cars rather than US ones as:
1) Foreign cars are more dependable and
2) They have better fuel economy than US made ones.

Mario responds:

LOL! I wonder where Mervyn gets his information from.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465005,00.html

Most of the "foreign cars" sold in the US are made by foreign car manufacturers in the USA. Toyota, Honda, BMW, Mitsubishi, Mercedes-Benz, Subaru, Nissan and Hyundai all have manufacturing plants in the USA.

The manufacturing plants of foreign companies in the USA create more well paying jobs in the US than the lower paying jobs that are outsourced to foreign countries under America's relatively free trade policies.
Mario Goveia
2010-01-15 22:01:49 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:46:38 -0800 (PST)
From: marlon menezes <goacom at yahoo.com>

There is a Goan connection to the current American president. Fitz D'souza (http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176250.html) , in a story told to me at this year's New Year's eve party at his house in Bambolim, told me that he was one of three on the committee who decided on the scholarship application of Barack's father to come to the US.? Good or bad, the rest is history.

Mario responds:

Good for America's mortal enemies.? Bad for everyone else.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/12/obama-approval-rating-hits-new-low-latest-national-opinion-poll/

Excerpt:

President Obama's job approval rating has hit a new low, according to the latest national opinion poll released Monday.
[end of excerpt]

I wonder if Mr. Fitz D'Souza can find me George Obama's address so I can help him out since his affluent brother apparently refuses to do so.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/01/31/george.obama.arrest/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

http://shapblog40.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/article09obama-brother-2010/
Tony de Sa
2010-01-13 16:45:14 UTC
Permalink
There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.

Poor Americans


John Smith started the day early.

having set his alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.

While his coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)

was perking, he shaved with his electric razor

(MADE IN HONG KONG)

He put on a dress shirt

(MADE IN SRI LANKA),

designer jeans

(MADE IN SINGAPORE)

and tennis shoes

(MADE IN KOREA)

After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet

(MADE IN INDIA)

he sat down with his calculator

(MADE IN MEXICO)

to see how much he could spend today. After setting his watch

(MADE IN TAIWAN )

to the radio

(MADE IN INDIA )

he got in his car

(MADE IN GERMANY )

filled it with GAS

(from Saudi Arabia )

and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB.

At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day checking his
Computer

(made in MALAYSIA ),

John decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals

(MADE IN BRAZIL),

poured himself a glass of wine

(MADE IN FRANCE)

and turned on his TV

(MADE IN INDONESIA),

and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM A PRESIDENT

MADE IN KENYA
================
GOD BLESS AMERICA. UP THE STARS AND STRIPES.
--
Tony de Sa
tonydesa at gmail.com
M : +91 9975 162 897
-Ph. : +91 832 2470 148

^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Samir Kelekar
2010-01-13 17:40:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
And finally came on Goanet, and posted how great America is!
We all know what the real name of John Smith is. :-)

samir
floriano
2010-01-13 19:27:42 UTC
Permalink
And instead of growing ulcers, he relaxed
cause he had a good goan friend who had taught him the trick of being
SUCEGAD
:)
Cheers
flo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony de Sa" <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>
To: "Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:15 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Poor American


and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
Post by Tony de Sa
Tony de Sa
Frederick Noronha
2010-01-13 18:18:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
to the radio
(MADE IN INDIA )
Tony, Sir! Please tell me where you can get a decent made-in-India
radio! I have been trying unsucessfully for ages now, and am finally
reduced to listening to Internet radio, using the BMP Free Software
option. [http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080628025431153/BMPx.html]

As a radio fan, I've struggled from my times as a sixth-standard
student trying to rig up my own Jetking "pocket" transistor in the
1960 and 1970s (Rs 65, if I recall right), to gifting myself a largish
four-band Phillips receiver that cost exactly a month's salary when I
quit a Goa-based newspaper in 1987 (a princely Rs 1060 then!)

Prior to this, while in school, my dad bought a three-in-one (LP
records, AM and MW!) which was the size of a big trunk from Mr Dalal
(at Mapusa, I think... or maybe Panjim) for Rs 1500. After using it
well for awhile, we fiddled hard and long with the valves behind,
hoping they would somehow light up and catch some distant radio
station!

Those were the days when DX-ing (tuning into 'distant' and 'unknown'
radio stations, hence the term DX) was still a hobby. ]

Remember 73s, anyone?

After that, sometimes in the 1990s when it was more possible to access
foreign products, I tried my luck with Sony digital radios. Goa's high
humidity probably was behind the problem of them not lasting long. My
technologically-challenged inabilities to build outdoor antennas
didn't help.

Even in days when radio is seen as dead, I still remember the pleasure
this simple instrument once offered us. For instance, there was this
radio play on the Voice of America, which sounded so realistic and
dramatic... I could almost recall still what the plot was about.
Post by Tony de Sa
From a tiny Goa largely isolated from the outside world, we tried
'catching' some distant stations whenever possible. There were 'free'
Bible courses (not Catholic, of course!) to tempt you into tuning in
more frequently. I managed to get books to study Dutch, German and
Russian -- and worked on all equally unsucessfully -- through the
radio stations themselves.

After sending in ten (or was it 20?) international reply coupons, each
worth Rs 2.50 in those days, I got access to a neat, blue tee-shirt
which said in bright yellow alphabets (or, "letters of the alphabet",
as Cecil would note): 'Keep in touch -- Radio Sweden' on it. After
wearing it for five years, I passed it on to my brother, who got into
it for probably another two! In 1998, a chance to visit Stockholm
actually took me to visit the towers of Radio Sweden, and meet up with
the Brazilian lady who manned the international services then!

We got tourist brochures showing the wonderful wildlife of (then)
Apartheid-ruled South Africa, and "No neutron bomb!" badges from Erich
Honecker's German Democratic Republic (though I later reached West
Berlin just as Die Berliner Mauer was being chipped away in 1990 as
both sides of the divided city drew Third World journalists, trying to
impress how "superior" their political system was compared to the
other.

It wasn't a small world then, but the radio waves made it somewhat so...

The memories that author Domnic "Domnic's Goa" Fernandes put across of
All India Radio some time ago brought back a whole lot of memories. Of
course, those were times dominated by "political correctness", and so
the programmes on AIR-Panaji were heavily dominated by a classical
fare, and a lot of pan-Indian (rather than regional, Goan) content.

The afternoon English-Konkani sessions did strike a chord, of course.
Imelda Tavora, who has just released a second book of her writing, a
sequeal to her earlier autobiography, was a household name, and the
successor of Emissora Goa played a key role in keeping local Konkani
music (in particular, the cantaram) alive and kicking... specially by
connecting the diaspora Bombay Goans community with home. Maybe Alfred
Rose, Chris Perry, Lorna and the other Bombay-based personalities
wouldn't have been such big figures minus radio.

We also tuned in to the occasional radio tiatr, and Saturday Date came
in from Bombay from 10 to 11 pm -- when the wind was favourable!
Getting the Wednesday half-hour of Western music from the same source
was also a struggle.

At one time, in the 1970s or 1980s, if you walked by a village street
in the morning, every second Christian house seemed to be tuned in to
Radio Ceylon/later, the SLBC. Wonder where are those Fernando and
other popular RJs (radio jockeys, to use today's term) who seemed to
be having a fun time on the airwaves! The more affluent families in
our parts of Bardez would tune in to Radio Australia, at 11-ish in the
morning... as this station needed superior radio equipment to to stay
tuned in to, specially since radio airwaves propagation isn't that
successful in the daytime as compared to night.

Anyway, your above comment Tony was just an opportunity to diagress.

Still searching for a good radio. The Chinese, 140-200 rupees ones are
fairly useful and portable, but probably not the kind you'd use if you
still believe that the airwaves could be a window to a wide world!

For now, I'll make do with my software radio. FN

PS: Oh, I almost forgot my long time love affair with WorldSpace
(including writing articles on it). Unfortunately, this very
interesting satellite radio experiment came to a close in India on Dec
31 last (2009), when its corporate offices abruptly announced its
subscribers that its services would no longer be available in this
country. Whatever happened to Noah Samara's
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Samara] dreams!
--
Frederick Noronha
Landline :: +91-832-2409490 Mobile :: +91-9822122436
784 Saligao 403511 Goa India
marlon menezes
2010-01-13 21:46:38 UTC
Permalink
There is a Goan connection to the current American president. Fitz D'souza (http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176250.html) , in a story told to me at this year's New Year's eve party at his house in Bambolim, told me that he was one of three on the committee who decided on the scholarship application of Barack's father to come to the US. Good or bad, the rest is history.

Marlon



----- Original Message ----
From: Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>

and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM A PRESIDENT

MADE IN KENYA
================
GOD BLESS AMERICA. UP THE STARS AND STRIPES.
Mario Goveia
2010-01-13 21:03:41 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:15:14 +0530
From: Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>

There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.

Poor Americans

John Smith started the day early.

having set his alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.

While his coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:40:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Samir Kelekar <samir_kelekar at yahoo.com>
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
And finally came on Goanet, and posted how great America is!
We all know what the real name of John Smith is. :-)

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:57:42 +0530
From: "floriano" <floriano.lobo at gmail.com>

And instead of growing ulcers, he relaxed cause he had a good goan friend who had taught him the trick of being SUCEGAD:)

Mario responds:

This is so hilarious. Americans are buying all this stuff and Tony, Samir and Floriano have decided in their infinite lack of perspicacity that it is AMERICANS who can't find a good paying job in America and are therefore poor! LOL! Try selling all that stuff to poor people:-))

Samir forgot to add IT services from India to the list. Perhaps, affluent Karnatakan that he is, he is providing his services to those poor Americans for free:-))

Has any of these eminent economic analysts stopped to think where would these countries be without these purchases by Americans?

This is precisely the beauty of America - we can buy stuff from anywhere we choose to:-))

And look what happens to China when the US economy slows down:

http://www.eeo.com.cn/ens/Industry/2009/09/10/150693.shtml
Mervyn Lobo
2010-01-14 01:04:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.
Poor Americans
John Smith started the day early.
having set his alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.
-snip-
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
?


Tony,
You forwarded the above as a joke but this is no laughing matter.


Thanks to the policies of George Bush (43) and co, for the past eight years, the US
has been importing more than it exports. It now has no money to pay for its imports
and is surviving only by printing?more. The?cost of?this madness is that the US
dollar has lost about 18% of its value?during this period.


Secondly, people in the US are buying foreign goods because the few manufacturers
that are left are producing goods that US residents do not want. For example, US
residents prefer to buy foreign cars rather than US ones as:
1) Foreign cars are more dependable
and
2) They have?better fuel economy than US made ones.


Finally, the current US Govt, just like the USSR Govt of old, can be convinced that a
company is too important to fail. The Govt then pays the workers in these failed
companies to produce goods/services that no one?wants to buy.



Mervyn1144Lobo


__________________________________________________________________
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Mario Goveia
2010-01-14 15:41:55 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:04:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>

Thanks to the policies of George Bush (43) and co, for the past eight years, the US has been importing more than it exports. It now has no money to pay for its imports and is surviving only by printing?more. The?cost of?this madness is that the US dollar has lost about 18% of its value?during this period.

Mario responds:

To begin with, here is what is happening under President Obama's policies:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126330289707626093.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

Anyway, thanks for helping me win a bet that we would hear from you on this subject with the same tired old poppycock about President Bush - this time blaming his policies for something the US has always done, before Bush and since, i.e. extend its foreign aid by helping poorer countries by buying their products.

Most of China's vaunted foreign exchange reserves come from US imports, and the recession in the US that President Obama is working very hard to worsen, is causing all kinds of problems of overcapacity in China.

Mervyn wrote:

Secondly, people in the US are buying foreign goods because the few manufacturers that are left are producing goods that US residents do not want. For example, US residents prefer to buy foreign cars rather than US ones as:
1) Foreign cars are more dependable and
2) They have better fuel economy than US made ones.

Mario responds:

LOL! I wonder where Mervyn gets his information from.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465005,00.html

Most of the "foreign cars" sold in the US are made by foreign car manufacturers in the USA. Toyota, Honda, BMW, Mitsubishi, Mercedes-Benz, Subaru, Nissan and Hyundai all have manufacturing plants in the USA.

The manufacturing plants of foreign companies in the USA create more well paying jobs in the US than the lower paying jobs that are outsourced to foreign countries under America's relatively free trade policies.
Mario Goveia
2010-01-15 22:01:49 UTC
Permalink
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:46:38 -0800 (PST)
From: marlon menezes <goacom at yahoo.com>

There is a Goan connection to the current American president. Fitz D'souza (http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176250.html) , in a story told to me at this year's New Year's eve party at his house in Bambolim, told me that he was one of three on the committee who decided on the scholarship application of Barack's father to come to the US.? Good or bad, the rest is history.

Mario responds:

Good for America's mortal enemies.? Bad for everyone else.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/12/obama-approval-rating-hits-new-low-latest-national-opinion-poll/

Excerpt:

President Obama's job approval rating has hit a new low, according to the latest national opinion poll released Monday.
[end of excerpt]

I wonder if Mr. Fitz D'Souza can find me George Obama's address so I can help him out since his affluent brother apparently refuses to do so.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/01/31/george.obama.arrest/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

http://shapblog40.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/article09obama-brother-2010/
Tony de Sa
2010-01-13 16:45:14 UTC
Permalink
There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.

Poor Americans


John Smith started the day early.

having set his alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.

While his coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)

was perking, he shaved with his electric razor

(MADE IN HONG KONG)

He put on a dress shirt

(MADE IN SRI LANKA),

designer jeans

(MADE IN SINGAPORE)

and tennis shoes

(MADE IN KOREA)

After cooking his breakfast in his new electric skillet

(MADE IN INDIA)

he sat down with his calculator

(MADE IN MEXICO)

to see how much he could spend today. After setting his watch

(MADE IN TAIWAN )

to the radio

(MADE IN INDIA )

he got in his car

(MADE IN GERMANY )

filled it with GAS

(from Saudi Arabia )

and continued his search for a good paying AMERICAN JOB.

At the end of yet another discouraging and fruitless day checking his
Computer

(made in MALAYSIA ),

John decided to relax for a while. He put on his sandals

(MADE IN BRAZIL),

poured himself a glass of wine

(MADE IN FRANCE)

and turned on his TV

(MADE IN INDONESIA),

and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM A PRESIDENT

MADE IN KENYA
================
GOD BLESS AMERICA. UP THE STARS AND STRIPES.
--
Tony de Sa
tonydesa at gmail.com
M : +91 9975 162 897
-Ph. : +91 832 2470 148

^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v
Samir Kelekar
2010-01-13 17:40:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
And finally came on Goanet, and posted how great America is!
We all know what the real name of John Smith is. :-)

samir
floriano
2010-01-13 19:27:42 UTC
Permalink
And instead of growing ulcers, he relaxed
cause he had a good goan friend who had taught him the trick of being
SUCEGAD
:)
Cheers
flo

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony de Sa" <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>
To: "Goa's Premiere Mailing List, Estd 1994" <goanet at lists.goanet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 10:15 PM
Subject: [Goanet] Poor American


and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
Post by Tony de Sa
Tony de Sa
Frederick Noronha
2010-01-13 18:18:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Tony de Sa
to the radio
(MADE IN INDIA )
Tony, Sir! Please tell me where you can get a decent made-in-India
radio! I have been trying unsucessfully for ages now, and am finally
reduced to listening to Internet radio, using the BMP Free Software
option. [http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20080628025431153/BMPx.html]

As a radio fan, I've struggled from my times as a sixth-standard
student trying to rig up my own Jetking "pocket" transistor in the
1960 and 1970s (Rs 65, if I recall right), to gifting myself a largish
four-band Phillips receiver that cost exactly a month's salary when I
quit a Goa-based newspaper in 1987 (a princely Rs 1060 then!)

Prior to this, while in school, my dad bought a three-in-one (LP
records, AM and MW!) which was the size of a big trunk from Mr Dalal
(at Mapusa, I think... or maybe Panjim) for Rs 1500. After using it
well for awhile, we fiddled hard and long with the valves behind,
hoping they would somehow light up and catch some distant radio
station!

Those were the days when DX-ing (tuning into 'distant' and 'unknown'
radio stations, hence the term DX) was still a hobby. ]

Remember 73s, anyone?

After that, sometimes in the 1990s when it was more possible to access
foreign products, I tried my luck with Sony digital radios. Goa's high
humidity probably was behind the problem of them not lasting long. My
technologically-challenged inabilities to build outdoor antennas
didn't help.

Even in days when radio is seen as dead, I still remember the pleasure
this simple instrument once offered us. For instance, there was this
radio play on the Voice of America, which sounded so realistic and
dramatic... I could almost recall still what the plot was about.
Post by Tony de Sa
From a tiny Goa largely isolated from the outside world, we tried
'catching' some distant stations whenever possible. There were 'free'
Bible courses (not Catholic, of course!) to tempt you into tuning in
more frequently. I managed to get books to study Dutch, German and
Russian -- and worked on all equally unsucessfully -- through the
radio stations themselves.

After sending in ten (or was it 20?) international reply coupons, each
worth Rs 2.50 in those days, I got access to a neat, blue tee-shirt
which said in bright yellow alphabets (or, "letters of the alphabet",
as Cecil would note): 'Keep in touch -- Radio Sweden' on it. After
wearing it for five years, I passed it on to my brother, who got into
it for probably another two! In 1998, a chance to visit Stockholm
actually took me to visit the towers of Radio Sweden, and meet up with
the Brazilian lady who manned the international services then!

We got tourist brochures showing the wonderful wildlife of (then)
Apartheid-ruled South Africa, and "No neutron bomb!" badges from Erich
Honecker's German Democratic Republic (though I later reached West
Berlin just as Die Berliner Mauer was being chipped away in 1990 as
both sides of the divided city drew Third World journalists, trying to
impress how "superior" their political system was compared to the
other.

It wasn't a small world then, but the radio waves made it somewhat so...

The memories that author Domnic "Domnic's Goa" Fernandes put across of
All India Radio some time ago brought back a whole lot of memories. Of
course, those were times dominated by "political correctness", and so
the programmes on AIR-Panaji were heavily dominated by a classical
fare, and a lot of pan-Indian (rather than regional, Goan) content.

The afternoon English-Konkani sessions did strike a chord, of course.
Imelda Tavora, who has just released a second book of her writing, a
sequeal to her earlier autobiography, was a household name, and the
successor of Emissora Goa played a key role in keeping local Konkani
music (in particular, the cantaram) alive and kicking... specially by
connecting the diaspora Bombay Goans community with home. Maybe Alfred
Rose, Chris Perry, Lorna and the other Bombay-based personalities
wouldn't have been such big figures minus radio.

We also tuned in to the occasional radio tiatr, and Saturday Date came
in from Bombay from 10 to 11 pm -- when the wind was favourable!
Getting the Wednesday half-hour of Western music from the same source
was also a struggle.

At one time, in the 1970s or 1980s, if you walked by a village street
in the morning, every second Christian house seemed to be tuned in to
Radio Ceylon/later, the SLBC. Wonder where are those Fernando and
other popular RJs (radio jockeys, to use today's term) who seemed to
be having a fun time on the airwaves! The more affluent families in
our parts of Bardez would tune in to Radio Australia, at 11-ish in the
morning... as this station needed superior radio equipment to to stay
tuned in to, specially since radio airwaves propagation isn't that
successful in the daytime as compared to night.

Anyway, your above comment Tony was just an opportunity to diagress.

Still searching for a good radio. The Chinese, 140-200 rupees ones are
fairly useful and portable, but probably not the kind you'd use if you
still believe that the airwaves could be a window to a wide world!

For now, I'll make do with my software radio. FN

PS: Oh, I almost forgot my long time love affair with WorldSpace
(including writing articles on it). Unfortunately, this very
interesting satellite radio experiment came to a close in India on Dec
31 last (2009), when its corporate offices abruptly announced its
subscribers that its services would no longer be available in this
country. Whatever happened to Noah Samara's
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah_Samara] dreams!
--
Frederick Noronha
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784 Saligao 403511 Goa India
marlon menezes
2010-01-13 21:46:38 UTC
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There is a Goan connection to the current American president. Fitz D'souza (http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176250.html) , in a story told to me at this year's New Year's eve party at his house in Bambolim, told me that he was one of three on the committee who decided on the scholarship application of Barack's father to come to the US. Good or bad, the rest is history.

Marlon



----- Original Message ----
From: Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>

and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA

AND NOW HE'S HOPING HE CAN GET HELP FROM A PRESIDENT

MADE IN KENYA
================
GOD BLESS AMERICA. UP THE STARS AND STRIPES.
Mario Goveia
2010-01-13 21:03:41 UTC
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 22:15:14 +0530
From: Tony de Sa <tonyde.sa at gmail.com>

There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.

Poor Americans

John Smith started the day early.

having set his alarm clock

(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.

While his coffeepot

(MADE IN CHINA)

Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:40:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Samir Kelekar <samir_kelekar at yahoo.com>
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
And finally came on Goanet, and posted how great America is!
We all know what the real name of John Smith is. :-)

Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:57:42 +0530
From: "floriano" <floriano.lobo at gmail.com>

And instead of growing ulcers, he relaxed cause he had a good goan friend who had taught him the trick of being SUCEGAD:)

Mario responds:

This is so hilarious. Americans are buying all this stuff and Tony, Samir and Floriano have decided in their infinite lack of perspicacity that it is AMERICANS who can't find a good paying job in America and are therefore poor! LOL! Try selling all that stuff to poor people:-))

Samir forgot to add IT services from India to the list. Perhaps, affluent Karnatakan that he is, he is providing his services to those poor Americans for free:-))

Has any of these eminent economic analysts stopped to think where would these countries be without these purchases by Americans?

This is precisely the beauty of America - we can buy stuff from anywhere we choose to:-))

And look what happens to China when the US economy slows down:

http://www.eeo.com.cn/ens/Industry/2009/09/10/150693.shtml
Mervyn Lobo
2010-01-14 01:04:11 UTC
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Post by Tony de Sa
There is a tendency among some Goans to look at America with rose tinted
glasses. This little joke among one of the forwards I received will put
things in the proper prespective.
Poor Americans
John Smith started the day early.
having set his alarm clock
(MADE IN JAPAN ) for 6 am.
-snip-
Post by Tony de Sa
and turned on his TV
(MADE IN INDONESIA),
and then wondered why he can't find a good paying job in AMERICA
?


Tony,
You forwarded the above as a joke but this is no laughing matter.


Thanks to the policies of George Bush (43) and co, for the past eight years, the US
has been importing more than it exports. It now has no money to pay for its imports
and is surviving only by printing?more. The?cost of?this madness is that the US
dollar has lost about 18% of its value?during this period.


Secondly, people in the US are buying foreign goods because the few manufacturers
that are left are producing goods that US residents do not want. For example, US
residents prefer to buy foreign cars rather than US ones as:
1) Foreign cars are more dependable
and
2) They have?better fuel economy than US made ones.


Finally, the current US Govt, just like the USSR Govt of old, can be convinced that a
company is too important to fail. The Govt then pays the workers in these failed
companies to produce goods/services that no one?wants to buy.



Mervyn1144Lobo


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Mario Goveia
2010-01-14 15:41:55 UTC
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:04:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Mervyn Lobo <mervynalobo at yahoo.ca>

Thanks to the policies of George Bush (43) and co, for the past eight years, the US has been importing more than it exports. It now has no money to pay for its imports and is surviving only by printing?more. The?cost of?this madness is that the US dollar has lost about 18% of its value?during this period.

Mario responds:

To begin with, here is what is happening under President Obama's policies:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126330289707626093.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

Anyway, thanks for helping me win a bet that we would hear from you on this subject with the same tired old poppycock about President Bush - this time blaming his policies for something the US has always done, before Bush and since, i.e. extend its foreign aid by helping poorer countries by buying their products.

Most of China's vaunted foreign exchange reserves come from US imports, and the recession in the US that President Obama is working very hard to worsen, is causing all kinds of problems of overcapacity in China.

Mervyn wrote:

Secondly, people in the US are buying foreign goods because the few manufacturers that are left are producing goods that US residents do not want. For example, US residents prefer to buy foreign cars rather than US ones as:
1) Foreign cars are more dependable and
2) They have better fuel economy than US made ones.

Mario responds:

LOL! I wonder where Mervyn gets his information from.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465005,00.html

Most of the "foreign cars" sold in the US are made by foreign car manufacturers in the USA. Toyota, Honda, BMW, Mitsubishi, Mercedes-Benz, Subaru, Nissan and Hyundai all have manufacturing plants in the USA.

The manufacturing plants of foreign companies in the USA create more well paying jobs in the US than the lower paying jobs that are outsourced to foreign countries under America's relatively free trade policies.
Mario Goveia
2010-01-15 22:01:49 UTC
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:46:38 -0800 (PST)
From: marlon menezes <goacom at yahoo.com>

There is a Goan connection to the current American president. Fitz D'souza (http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-April/176250.html) , in a story told to me at this year's New Year's eve party at his house in Bambolim, told me that he was one of three on the committee who decided on the scholarship application of Barack's father to come to the US.? Good or bad, the rest is history.

Mario responds:

Good for America's mortal enemies.? Bad for everyone else.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/12/obama-approval-rating-hits-new-low-latest-national-opinion-poll/

Excerpt:

President Obama's job approval rating has hit a new low, according to the latest national opinion poll released Monday.
[end of excerpt]

I wonder if Mr. Fitz D'Souza can find me George Obama's address so I can help him out since his affluent brother apparently refuses to do so.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/01/31/george.obama.arrest/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

http://shapblog40.wordpress.com/2009/12/27/article09obama-brother-2010/
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