[GSoC 2014] Cordova/Android App for GNU Mailman Admin Interface

Discussion:

Bhargav Golla

2014-02-28 15:36:33 UTC

Hello all

Congrats to Mailman on being selected as a mentor organization under PSF.

I am Bhargav Golla, a graduate student in Computer Science at Clemson
University, US. I am an avid mobile and web app developer. I worked on
Phonegap apps during GSoC 2012 and GSoC 2013 with Apache Software
Foundation and have developed many Windows Phone apps. The native android
app I developed for Exotel (a startup in cloud telephony in India) is still
being actively used by Exotel's clientele of over 1000 firms. My Github
account[1] will provide much more details about my developer expertise. I
am particularly interested in Cordova/Android app for Admin interface idea.

I have a few questions regarding this idea.
1. I intend to develop it on Cordova since it will help in porting the app
easily to multiple platforms. Were there any ideas in this directions
regarding going native or hybrid?
2. Can I assume that all mailing lists built by Mailman support the REST
interface? Also, I have tried to see if I can get JSON responses and I am
unable to by adding a HTTP Accept Header to take "application/json". Am I
doing anything wrong or is JSON not implemented?
3. As a starter, could I ignore internationalization for GSoC, but
implement interface in such a way as to be able to internationalize it
easily?

I would be very much obliged if I am provided with answers to these
questions and whatever questions that may arise in future as they will help
me in writing a good proposal and in turn get chosen to work with Mailman.

[1] http://github.com/bhargavgolla

Regards
--
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Terri Oda

2014-03-02 06:18:14 UTC

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Post by Bhargav Golla
I have a few questions regarding this idea.
1. I intend to develop it on Cordova since it will help in porting the app
easily to multiple platforms. Were there any ideas in this directions
regarding going native or hybrid?

Personally, I'd prefer if we went hybrid and had an html5 webapp that
could be used straight over the web for mobile users who don't want to
install an app, with Cordova used to build the individual platform
apps. I may not be the mentor on this one, though, so I'm happy to
defer to whoever the final mentor is on this front.

Incidentally, I've been using Intel's XDK for building Cordova apps
lately and highly recommend it for quick testing on various platforms
and screen sizes. I've found it a very useful tool, and not just
because I work for Intel now!

Post by Bhargav Golla
2. Can I assume that all mailing lists built by Mailman support the REST
interface? Also, I have tried to see if I can get JSON responses and I am
unable to by adding a HTTP Accept Header to take "application/json". Am I
doing anything wrong or is JSON not implemented?

I don't know the answer to this off the top of my head: Barry?

Post by Bhargav Golla
3. As a starter, could I ignore internationalization for GSoC, but
implement interface in such a way as to be able to internationalize it
easily?

We don't expect you to actually translate anything, don't worry. :) But
you should definitely build as much as possible so that
internationalization will be easy: make sure there's a quick way to get
a list of strings that need translation, at least. Some of the strings
may be already translated in other components of Mailman, so you may be
able to get some translations to use to test if you have time at the end
of the summer for internationalization.

Terri

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Bhargav Golla

2014-03-03 17:07:01 UTC

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Thanks Barry and Terri for your feedback.
I was trying to install Postorius locally and analyze what all would be
required in a mobile app for Admin. Doing the same, I have hit a roadblock.
I am using the wiki provided here[1]. I tried to install mailman using "set
up sources" part of the wiki. Though python setup.py install executes
without any errors, I am unable to see the folder bin/ in the same
directory. So, even though I proceed with further setup, I am getting a
"Mailman REST API not available. Please start mailman core" on my
localhost:8000 webpage. Could anyone help me here?

[1]
http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/A+5+minute+guide+to+get+the+Mailman+web+UI+running

Thanks

Post by Terri Oda

Personally, I'd prefer if we went hybrid and had an html5 webapp that
could be used straight over the web for mobile users who don't want to
install an app, with Cordova used to build the individual platform apps. I
may not be the mentor on this one, though, so I'm happy to defer to whoever
the final mentor is on this front.
Incidentally, I've been using Intel's XDK for building Cordova apps lately
and highly recommend it for quick testing on various platforms and screen
sizes. I've found it a very useful tool, and not just because I work for
Intel now!
2. Can I assume that all mailing lists built by Mailman support the REST

Post by Bhargav Golla
interface? Also, I have tried to see if I can get JSON responses and I am
unable to by adding a HTTP Accept Header to take "application/json". Am I
doing anything wrong or is JSON not implemented?

I don't know the answer to this off the top of my head: Barry?
3. As a starter, could I ignore internationalization for GSoC, but

Post by Bhargav Golla
implement interface in such a way as to be able to internationalize it
easily?

--
Bhargav Golla
M.S Computer Science
Github <http://www.github.com/bhargavgolla> |
LinkedIN<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bhargavgolla>
| Website <http://www.bhargavgolla.com/>
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Rajeev S

2014-03-03 18:38:39 UTC

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Hi Bhargav,

Just do *mailman start*, without the bin.

I have edited the wiki.

*Regards,Rajeev S*
*Government Engineering College,Thrissur*
*http://rajeevs.tk <http://rajeevs.tk>*

Post by Bhargav Golla
Thanks Barry and Terri for your feedback.
I was trying to install Postorius locally and analyze what all would be
required in a mobile app for Admin. Doing the same, I have hit a roadblock.
I am using the wiki provided here[1]. I tried to install mailman using "set
up sources" part of the wiki. Though python setup.py install executes
without any errors, I am unable to see the folder bin/ in the same
directory. So, even though I proceed with further setup, I am getting a
"Mailman REST API not available. Please start mailman core" on my
localhost:8000 webpage. Could anyone help me here?
[1]
http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/A+5+minute+guide+to+get+the+Mailman+web+UI+running
Thanks

Post by Terri Oda

Post by Bhargav Golla
I have a few questions regarding this idea.
1. I intend to develop it on Cordova since it will help in porting the

app

Post by Terri Oda

Post by Bhargav Golla
easily to multiple platforms. Were there any ideas in this directions
regarding going native or hybrid?

Post by Terri Oda
may not be the mentor on this one, though, so I'm happy to defer to

whoever

Post by Terri Oda
the final mentor is on this front.
Incidentally, I've been using Intel's XDK for building Cordova apps

lately

Post by Terri Oda
and highly recommend it for quick testing on various platforms and screen
sizes. I've found it a very useful tool, and not just because I work for
Intel now!
2. Can I assume that all mailing lists built by Mailman support the REST

Post by Bhargav Golla
interface? Also, I have tried to see if I can get JSON responses and I

Post by Terri Oda

Post by Bhargav Golla
unable to by adding a HTTP Accept Header to take "application/json". Am

Post by Terri Oda

Post by Bhargav Golla
doing anything wrong or is JSON not implemented?

I don't know the answer to this off the top of my head: Barry?
3. As a starter, could I ignore internationalization for GSoC, but

Post by Bhargav Golla
implement interface in such a way as to be able to internationalize it
easily?

Post by Terri Oda
get some translations to use to test if you have time at the end of the
summer for internationalization.
Terri

--
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M.S Computer Science
Github <http://www.github.com/bhargavgolla> |
LinkedIN<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bhargavgolla>
| Website <http://www.bhargavgolla.com/>
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Bhargav Golla

2014-03-05 14:06:13 UTC

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Thanks for that change Rajeev. I was able to get the Web UI up and running.
I was trying to find out the default Username and password for this but was
unable to. When I was exploring docs in mailman.client and some config
files in mailman, I found that the default username and password for admin
is restadmin and restpass. Tried that and was out of luck there too. Could
you help me with the default username and password details?

Also, there is a using.txt doc in mailman.client which says we can make the
REST requests by connecting to http://localhost:9001/3.0 using username and
password. Should the URL be http://localhost:9000/3.0 for this example or
would it be any different?

Thanks

Post by Rajeev S
Hi Bhargav,
Just do *mailman start*, without the bin.
I have edited the wiki.
*Regards, Rajeev S*
*Government Engineering College,Thrissur*
*http://rajeevs.tk <http://rajeevs.tk>*

Post by Terri Oda

Post by Bhargav Golla
I have a few questions regarding this idea.
1. I intend to develop it on Cordova since it will help in porting the

app

Post by Terri Oda

Post by Bhargav Golla
easily to multiple platforms. Were there any ideas in this directions
regarding going native or hybrid?

apps. I

Post by Terri Oda
may not be the mentor on this one, though, so I'm happy to defer to

whoever

Post by Terri Oda
the final mentor is on this front.
Incidentally, I've been using Intel's XDK for building Cordova apps

lately

Post by Terri Oda
and highly recommend it for quick testing on various platforms and

screen

Post by Terri Oda
sizes. I've found it a very useful tool, and not just because I work

for

Post by Terri Oda
Intel now!
2. Can I assume that all mailing lists built by Mailman support the

REST

Post by Terri Oda

Post by Bhargav Golla
interface? Also, I have tried to see if I can get JSON responses and I

Post by Terri Oda

Post by Bhargav Golla
unable to by adding a HTTP Accept Header to take "application/json".

Am I

Post by Terri Oda

Post by Bhargav Golla
doing anything wrong or is JSON not implemented?

I don't know the answer to this off the top of my head: Barry?
3. As a starter, could I ignore internationalization for GSoC, but

Post by Bhargav Golla
implement interface in such a way as to be able to internationalize it
easily?

We don't expect you to actually translate anything, don't worry. :) But
you should definitely build as much as possible so that
internationalization will be easy: make sure there's a quick way to get

Post by Terri Oda
list of strings that need translation, at least. Some of the strings

may

Post by Terri Oda
be already translated in other components of Mailman, so you may be

able to

Post by Terri Oda
get some translations to use to test if you have time at the end of the
summer for internationalization.
Terri

--
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M.S Computer Science
Github <http://www.github.com/bhargavgolla> |
LinkedIN<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bhargavgolla>
| Website <http://www.bhargavgolla.com/>
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Bhargav Golla

2014-03-05 14:35:33 UTC

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Hi Abhilash

If you mean the last step of installation where we do cd
postorius_standalone;python manage.py syncdb, I wasn't asked for any
username/password. I checked the settings.py and it doesn't have any
specific default username/password.

And the http://localhost:8001/3.0 worked for me.

Post by Rajeev S
Hi Bhargav,

Post by Bhargav Golla
Thanks for that change Rajeev. I was able to get the Web UI up and

running.

Post by Bhargav Golla
I was trying to find out the default Username and password for this but

was

Post by Bhargav Golla
unable to. When I was exploring docs in mailman.client and some config
files in mailman, I found that the default username and password for

admin

Post by Bhargav Golla
is restadmin and restpass. Tried that and was out of luck there too.

Could

Post by Bhargav Golla
you help me with the default username and password details?

While setting up Postorius(the web UI) when you do 'python manage.py
syncdb' for the first time, it asks you to create admin. You can log in
using those credentials. 'restadmin' and 'restpass' are the credentials
for the mailman rest server.

Post by Bhargav Golla
Also, there is a using.txt doc in mailman.client which says we can make

the

Post by Bhargav Golla
REST requests by connecting to http://localhost:9001/3.0 using username

and

Post by Bhargav Golla
password. Should the URL be http://localhost:9000/3.0 for this example

Post by Bhargav Golla
would it be any different?

AFAIK it is 'http://localhost:8001/3.0'. (Try it once. If I am wrong
please someone correct me)

Post by Bhargav Golla
Thanks

Post by Rajeev S
Hi Bhargav,
Just do *mailman start*, without the bin.
I have edited the wiki.
*Regards, Rajeev S*
*Government Engineering College,Thrissur*
*http://rajeevs.tk <http://rajeevs.tk>*

http://wiki.list.org/display/DEV/A+5+minute+guide+to+get+the+Mailman+web+UI+running