CNY ; where is the fraternization !

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

it's the time of celebrations ;of being joyous
and sharing and giving and spreading the goodies
and goodwill....well ,at least that's what Christmas
and Hari Rayas were...the haves spread some of
their goodies with the have nots...charity and fraternization
were in the spirit of Christmas and giving alms to
the needy and poor are ordained as part of Hari Raya
celebrations....

where are all these elements in CNY !,me wonders...sure,
the chinese haveth their family reunion dinners then visiting
their elders and paying their respect followed by feasting
and etc.etc......but all these are within the family
only...what about the poor,the needy and friends and fellow
citizens ! especially the non chinese...where is the element
of fraternity here with their neighbors !?

why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

[Dave Baker]

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:41:59 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

Dunno where you live, but I've been invited to several CNY events, and I'm
non-Chinese.

Dave

[Pan]

Post by Dave Baker
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:41:59 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

Dunno where you live, but I've been invited to several CNY events, and I'm
non-Chinese.
Dave

Dave, consider the source of the question. Maybe the Chinese neighbors
of STRAIGHTS TIMED don't welcome bigots into their houses. :-)

Best,

Michael

If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the TRASH, so to speak. Please do not email me something which you also posted.

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by Pan

Post by Dave Baker
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:41:59 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

Dunno where you live, but I've been invited to several CNY events, and I'm
non-Chinese.
Dave

Dave, consider the source of the question. Maybe the Chinese neighbors
of STRAIGHTS TIMED don't welcome bigots into their houses. :-)
Best,
Michael

mmm! well,how do the CHOSEN people-Jews, celebrate
their festivities !

it would be interesting to know besides going
around to their arab neighbors and shooting their
six year olds dead !

Post by Pan
If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the TRASH, so to speak. Please do not email me something which you also posted.

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by Dave Baker
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:41:59 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

Dunno where you live, but I've been invited to several CNY events, and I'm
non-Chinese.
Dave

i see, being married to a chinese does help you
there but how many ARE married to chinese !

incidently,i live in singapore where the overwhelming
majority of 78 % chinese are constant reminder of
where i live...moreover,myself had sat amongst the
the traditional CNY family reunion dinner many a times
and therefore my own personal experiences does not speak
of the trend !

its a malaysian tradition for their PM and ministers
to have open houses on these celebrations contrast this
with the chinese majority ruled Singapore ; i have yet
to see one minister inviting the pubic to share the CNY
celebrations all these years !

the spirit of sharing and charity is missing in CNY !

[Dave Baker]

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:01:22 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i see, being married to a chinese does help you
there

Au contraire - my wife has balik kampung for a week, so the invitations I
have attended (& 2 that I had to miss cause of meetings) were for me only.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i have yet
to see one minister inviting the pubic to share the CNY
celebrations all these years !

There is talk in today's paper of an MCA open house, and even a picture of Dr
M, Badawi & a few others tossing their yee sang.

Maybe people just don't like you? :-)

Dave

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by Dave Baker
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:01:22 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i see, being married to a chinese does help you
there

Au contraire - my wife has balik kampung for a week, so the invitations I
have attended (& 2 that I had to miss cause of meetings) were for me only.

LOL ! boy you are dense aren't you ! what kind of
wife will abandon her husband to balik kampong on
their most cherish celeberation...show me one chinese
wify who does that to her chinese husband !!!
of course,contract marriages and marriage of convenience
don't count !

Post by Dave Baker

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i have yet
to see one minister inviting the pubic to share the CNY
celebrations all these years !

yeah ! i did said about the malayianisation of the
chinese in malaysia didn't i ! Oh ,yes I did...

so ,you do see the difference of malay dominated culture rubbing
on to the chinese dominated MCA and doing them some good don't you !
even if it has to be directed by UMNO ! LOL.

Post by Dave Baker
There is talk in today's paper of an MCA open house, and even a picture of Dr
M, Badawi & a few others tossing their yee sang.
Maybe people just don't like you? :-)

oh,yes i do see you are highly unpopular with the non
chinese....queen control,perhaps ! ;-)

Post by Dave Baker
Dave

[Dave Baker]

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:28:58 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
LOL ! boy you are dense aren't you ! what kind of
wife will abandon her husband to balik kampong on
their most cherish celeberation.

Abandon? A bit extreme don't you think. She's only an hour's flight or a
phone call away.

I happen to believe that it's important that my daughter participate in the
tradition of family reunions & all the other fun of CNY. Unfortunately I have
to work occasionally.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
yeah ! i did said about the malayianisation of the
chinese in malaysia didn't i ! Oh ,yes I did...

Oh, so you weren't talking about Malaysia at all. In that case, DON'T CROSS
POST TO S.C.M.

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by Dave Baker
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 17:28:58 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
LOL ! boy you are dense aren't you ! what kind of
wife will abandon her husband to balik kampong on
their most cherish celeberation.

Abandon? A bit extreme don't you think. She's only an hour's flight or a
phone call away.
I happen to believe that it's important that my daughter participate in the
tradition of family reunions & all the other fun of CNY. Unfortunately I have
to work occasionally.

listen Dave ! something is seriously wrong here..
i for one would avoid getting personal here,especialy
since you may have your name on it...

notwithstanding,its highly untenable that a husband
goes missing on a family reunion dinner...defeats the
very fundamental of having a reunion dinner itself..
chinese do fly thousands of miles to be present on that
day and you did said you are only an hour of flight away..
and if you are so free to sit and type your criticisms
here ; i am sure your presence would be better placed on
being besides your wify and daughter !

anyway,i don't want want to drag you into another mud
slinging contest here but you are simply not qualified to
comment on these issues since such importance itself of
being part and parcel of your family where it most count
is lost on you !

Post by Dave Baker

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
yeah ! i did said about the malayianisation of the
chinese in malaysia didn't i ! Oh ,yes I did...

Oh, so you weren't talking about Malaysia at all. In that case, DON'T CROSS
POST TO S.C.M.

you do lack english comprehension ! MCA does not represent
all the malaysian chinese...its just that they are more
politicized and directed by UMNO...its immaterial whether
its good or bad...its that simple !

[Dave Baker]

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:20:24 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
notwithstanding,its highly untenable that a husband
goes missing on a family reunion dinner...defeats the
very fundamental of having a reunion dinner itself..

Yawn. Face up to reality.

Dave

[ardeedee]

Yes your reality not a nightmare?

Post by Dave Baker
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:20:24 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
notwithstanding,its highly untenable that a husband
goes missing on a family reunion dinner...defeats the
very fundamental of having a reunion dinner itself..

Yawn. Face up to reality.
Dave

[ardeedee]

You got Dave Baker right and proper - what can of Chinese wife leaves
husband alone and goes back to balik kampong.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by Dave Baker
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:01:22 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i see, being married to a chinese does help you
there

Au contraire - my wife has balik kampung for a week, so the invitations I
have attended (& 2 that I had to miss cause of meetings) were for me only.

LOL ! boy you are dense aren't you ! what kind of
wife will abandon her husband to balik kampong on
their most cherish celeberation...show me one chinese
wify who does that to her chinese husband !!!
of course,contract marriages and marriage of convenience
don't count !

Post by Dave Baker

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i have yet
to see one minister inviting the pubic to share the CNY
celebrations all these years !

yeah ! i did said about the malayianisation of the
chinese in malaysia didn't i ! Oh ,yes I did...
so ,you do see the difference of malay dominated culture rubbing
on to the chinese dominated MCA and doing them some good don't you !
even if it has to be directed by UMNO ! LOL.

Post by Dave Baker
There is talk in today's paper of an MCA open house, and even a picture of Dr
M, Badawi & a few others tossing their yee sang.
Maybe people just don't like you? :-)

oh,yes i do see you are highly unpopular with the non
chinese....queen control,perhaps ! ;-)

Post by Dave Baker
Dave

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by ardeedee
You got Dave Baker right and proper - what can of Chinese wife leaves
husband alone and goes back to balik kampong.

i was really taken back by Dave's post...it took me a while
to grasp what he indeed said...did he said such ! Yes ,he did...

we only know malaysian workers in singapore taking a week
or two to balik kampong in malaysia to celebrate CNY,which
of course includes our sex workers in geylang too...even than
they are taking time off to spend time with their family...hence
many businesses always comes to grind here...

and here we have our Dave saying his wife too is taking a week
off to be with her family without him !!!!!!!!.....what then do we
make out of this...besides,he claims he is going around celebrating
CNY with others ; whilst his wify and daughter are just merely
an hour of flight time away...yet he merely spends his time criticizing
your wife ,the malays,malaysia and what not !!!!!...strange...very
very strange....its not even the culture in the west to forsake one family
however permissive the caucasians might be....

[Dave Baker]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:20:20 -0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and here we have our Dave saying his wife too is taking a week
off to be with her family without him !!!!!!!!

I must be the only person in Malaysia working this week am I? You really are
a wanker.

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by Dave Baker
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:20:20 -0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and here we have our Dave saying his wife too is taking a week
off to be with her family without him !!!!!!!!

I must be the only person in Malaysia working this week am I? You really are
a wanker.

no one is your equal at hitting the nail squarely on
the thump...you got yourself screwed with your lout mouth
and now spends time at justifications with desperate after
thoughts...LOL.

working eh ! yet goes around attending numerous CNY celebrations
eh ! wify and daughter only an hour flight time away eh ! got
plenty of time to idle your time here eh ! Boy you one mat
salleh with a big fat ego and conceited ,please go look in the
mirror and take a bow ! LOL.

[4u2c]

What's so strange about that?
Obviously, you have not heard of the malay saying :
"Sayangkan anak tangan-tangankan, sayangkan isteri tinggal-tinggalkan"

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
no one is your equal at hitting the nail squarely on
the thump...you got yourself screwed with your lout mouth
and now spends time at justifications with desperate after
thoughts...LOL.
working eh ! yet goes around attending numerous CNY celebrations
eh ! wify and daughter only an hour flight time away eh ! got
plenty of time to idle your time here eh ! Boy you one mat
salleh with a big fat ego and conceited ,please go look in the
mirror and take a bow ! LOL.

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by 4u2c
What's so strange about that?
"Sayangkan anak tangan-tangankan, sayangkan isteri tinggal-tinggalkan"

strange ! surely not...except for the fact a reunion
dinner is not much of a reunion if husbands are left
while only wifes are attending them...

perhaps ! you malaysian chinese should re consider
and name it "CNY hen's dinner party "instead ... LOL

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
no one is your equal at hitting the nail squarely on
the thump...you got yourself screwed with your lout mouth
and now spends time at justifications with desperate after
thoughts...LOL.
working eh ! yet goes around attending numerous CNY celebrations
eh ! wify and daughter only an hour flight time away eh ! got
plenty of time to idle your time here eh ! Boy you one mat
salleh with a big fat ego and conceited ,please go look in the
mirror and take a bow ! LOL.

[ignoramus]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:04:02 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
no one is your equal at hitting the nail squarely on
the thump...you got yourself screwed with your lout mouth
and now spends time at justifications with desperate after
thoughts...LOL.

You just described yourself to a "t". But you left out how desperate
you are with your ample usage of exclamation marks and LOLs to try to
convince readers (or is it yourself?) that you are right.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
working eh ! yet goes around attending numerous CNY celebrations

Yes, people do work during the festive season. But some also make
time to attend functions. After all, they have to eat.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
eh ! wify and daughter only an hour flight time away eh ! got
plenty of time to idle your time here eh ! Boy you one mat
salleh with a big fat ego and conceited ,please go look in the
mirror and take a bow ! LOL.

There you go again....

[ardeedee]

Why you defending a cheapskate Mat Salleh in Malaysia - you like white arse
or trying to get your arse licked by him?

Post by ignoramus
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 11:04:02 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
no one is your equal at hitting the nail squarely on
the thump...you got yourself screwed with your lout mouth
and now spends time at justifications with desperate after
thoughts...LOL.

You just described yourself to a "t". But you left out how desperate
you are with your ample usage of exclamation marks and LOLs to try to
convince readers (or is it yourself?) that you are right.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
working eh ! yet goes around attending numerous CNY celebrations

Yes, people do work during the festive season. But some also make
time to attend functions. After all, they have to eat.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
eh ! wify and daughter only an hour flight time away eh ! got
plenty of time to idle your time here eh ! Boy you one mat
salleh with a big fat ego and conceited ,please go look in the
mirror and take a bow ! LOL.

There you go again....

[ardeedee]

He is wanking in your face - enjoy it as you open your mouth.

Post by Dave Baker
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 02:20:20 -0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and here we have our Dave saying his wife too is taking a week
off to be with her family without him !!!!!!!!

I must be the only person in Malaysia working this week am I? You really are
a wanker.

[ardeedee]

He can tell straight faced lie a thousand times and only he and his cronies
like Stephen Limp will believe it - eventually he will admit it somehow.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by ardeedee
You got Dave Baker right and proper - what can of Chinese wife leaves
husband alone and goes back to balik kampong.

i was really taken back by Dave's post...it took me a while
to grasp what he indeed said...did he said such ! Yes ,he did...
we only know malaysian workers in singapore taking a week
or two to balik kampong in malaysia to celebrate CNY,which
of course includes our sex workers in geylang too...even than
they are taking time off to spend time with their family...hence
many businesses always comes to grind here...
and here we have our Dave saying his wife too is taking a week
off to be with her family without him !!!!!!!!.....what then do we
make out of this...besides,he claims he is going around celebrating
CNY with others ; whilst his wify and daughter are just merely
an hour of flight time away...yet he merely spends his time criticizing
your wife ,the malays,malaysia and what not !!!!!...strange...very
very strange....its not even the culture in the west to forsake one family
however permissive the caucasians might be....

[Gerald]

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by ardeedee
You got Dave Baker right and proper - what can of Chinese wife leaves
husband alone and goes back to balik kampong.

i was really taken back by Dave's post...it took me a while
to grasp what he indeed said...did he said such ! Yes ,he did...
we only know malaysian workers in singapore taking a week
or two to balik kampong in malaysia to celebrate CNY,which
of course includes our sex workers in geylang too...even than
they are taking time off to spend time with their family...hence
many businesses always comes to grind here...
and here we have our Dave saying his wife too is taking a week
off to be with her family without him !!!!!!!!.....what then do we
make out of this...besides,he claims he is going around celebrating
CNY with others ; whilst his wify and daughter are just merely
an hour of flight time away...yet he merely spends his time criticizing
your wife ,the malays,malaysia and what not !!!!!...strange...very
very strange....its not even the culture in the west to forsake one family
however permissive the caucasians might be....

Who died and left YOU in charge?

--g

[ardeedee]

We are talking about Singapore.

Post by Dave Baker
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 16:01:22 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i see, being married to a chinese does help you
there

Au contraire - my wife has balik kampung for a week, so the invitations I
have attended (& 2 that I had to miss cause of meetings) were for me only.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i have yet
to see one minister inviting the pubic to share the CNY
celebrations all these years !

There is talk in today's paper of an MCA open house, and even a picture of Dr
M, Badawi & a few others tossing their yee sang.
Maybe people just don't like you? :-)
Dave

[ignoramus]

Post by ardeedee
We are talking about Singapore.

Then Straits Timed should have made it clear from the very beginning
when he crossposted this to SCM.

This must be another one of his lame attempts to drag Malaysians into
his long running squables with Singaporean Chinese.

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by ignoramus

Post by ardeedee
We are talking about Singapore.

Then Straits Timed should have made it clear from the very beginning
when he crossposted this to SCM.
This must be another one of his lame attempts to drag Malaysians into
his long running squables with Singaporean Chinese.

why ! no chinese in malaysia hor ! CNY never celebrated
in malaysia har ! malaysian chinese very different from
singapore chinese ah !

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by ignoramus

Post by ardeedee
We are talking about Singapore.

Then Straits Timed should have made it clear from the very beginning
when he crossposted this to SCM.
This must be another one of his lame attempts to drag Malaysians into
his long running squables with Singaporean Chinese.

why ! no chinese in malaysia hor ! CNY never celebrated
in malaysia har ! malaysian chinese very different from
singapore chinese ah !

[Dave Baker]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:37:40 -0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by ignoramus
Then Straits Timed should have made it clear from the very beginning
when he crossposted this to SCM.

why ! no chinese in malaysia hor !

There are Chinese in Australia & Canada & even China as well. I note you
didn't cross-post there.

Sorry, but I don't have time to waste on irrelevant posts from you.

<plonk>

[truth]

Dave, don't waste your time with a confessed
trouble maker. He confessed that he was charged
in the last GE.

Post by Dave Baker
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:37:40 -0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by ignoramus
Then Straits Timed should have made it clear from the very beginning
when he crossposted this to SCM.

why ! no chinese in malaysia hor !

There are Chinese in Australia & Canada & even China as well. I note you
didn't cross-post there.
Sorry, but I don't have time to waste on irrelevant posts from you.
<plonk>

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by truth
Dave, don't waste your time with a confessed
trouble maker. He confessed that he was charged
in the last GE.

sure ! sure ! we believe you punk ! we can tell
when you are not lying ; if the lips are not moving .LOL.

with him truth is like a woman's girdle-its made to
be stretched...

[Pan]

Post by truth
Dave, don't waste your time with a confessed
trouble maker. He confessed that he was charged
in the last GE.

Charged with what?

M.

If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the TRASH, so to speak. Please do not email me something which you also posted.

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by Pan

Post by truth
Dave, don't waste your time with a confessed
trouble maker. He confessed that he was charged
in the last GE.

Charged with what?
M.

charged for reducing one poster called 'truth'
to a mumbling & babbling idiot...but then it
was quite recently though ! LOL

but then many chinese posters in scs had still
not forgiven him for such a humiliation he brought
upon the oppositions....what made him an
incredible loony toon was the fact that he was crying
for our hands of friendship ; mine & ardeedee's....

HERE IS HIS POST REPRODUCED BELOW :-

Subject:
Re: Where is Lim Hng Kiang ?
Date:
Sat, 10 Jan 2004 00:10:23 +0700
From:
STRAIGHTS TIMED <***@scsnscm.com>
Organization:
very truthful !
Newsgroups:
soc.culture.singapore
References:
1 , 2 , 3 , 4 , 5 , 6 , 7 , 8 , 9 , 10 , 11 , 12 , 13 , 14
, 15 , 16 , 17

Post by Pan
And to Straights Timed, if I had stepped on your toe while I was at the
microscopic level, I am sorry. Can we still be friends ? From a fictional
colloboration we can if faith permits, do something together. I am colour
blind.
May peace, happiness and prosperity be with you.
cheers
truth

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by Dave Baker
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:37:40 -0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by ignoramus
Then Straits Timed should have made it clear from the very beginning
when he crossposted this to SCM.

why ! no chinese in malaysia hor !

There are Chinese in Australia & Canada & even China as well. I note you
didn't cross-post there.
Sorry, but I don't have time to waste on irrelevant posts from you.
<plonk>

sure ! they don't have mat salleh like you whose wife
leaves him behind to celebrate CNY <snigger> <snigger>

and guess who spends time replying to my posts here ! LOL.

[ardeedee]

There are no Chinese only in Singapore that is why they go over to JB to
celebrate with Badawi and Co. LOL.

Post by Dave Baker
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:37:40 -0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by ignoramus
Then Straits Timed should have made it clear from the very beginning
when he crossposted this to SCM.

why ! no chinese in malaysia hor !

There are Chinese in Australia & Canada & even China as well. I note you
didn't cross-post there.
Sorry, but I don't have time to waste on irrelevant posts from you.
<plonk>

[4u2c]

Singaporean chinese are ignoring your post.
They must know you quite well.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
why ! no chinese in malaysia hor ! CNY never celebrated
in malaysia har ! malaysian chinese very different from
singapore chinese ah !

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by 4u2c
Singaporean chinese are ignoring your post.
They must know you quite well.

yup ! they know me quite well all right !
well enough to avoid getting themselves
into a perilous situation ..you see,i
am totally awesome when i kick butts but
my post is devoid of any ill intend ; i am
sure they understood that quite well..

perhaps,our local chinese are awed by my
thought provoking post and are deep in
contemplation for answears...instad of the
shoot from the hip typos ; like some foreign
mat sallahs residing in malaysia..

[ignoramus]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:46:58 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
yup ! they know me quite well all right !
well enough to avoid getting themselves
into a perilous situation ..you see,i
am totally awesome when i kick butts but
my post is devoid of any ill intend ; i am
sure they understood that quite well..
perhaps,our local chinese are awed by my
thought provoking post and are deep in
contemplation for answears...instad of the
shoot from the hip typos ; like some foreign
mat sallahs residing in malaysia..

Just what have you been smoking?

[ardeedee]

Smoking gun.

Post by ignoramus
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:46:58 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
yup ! they know me quite well all right !
well enough to avoid getting themselves
into a perilous situation ..you see,i
am totally awesome when i kick butts but
my post is devoid of any ill intend ; i am
sure they understood that quite well..
perhaps,our local chinese are awed by my
thought provoking post and are deep in
contemplation for answears...instad of the
shoot from the hip typos ; like some foreign
mat sallahs residing in malaysia..

Just what have you been smoking?

[ardeedee]

Singaporeans are mainly like you - one way street thinkers and blinkered -
they always looking for freebees - like Chinese going to JB for free bees
from Malaysia - this only strains the purses of peope like Stepehn Limp who
is Malaysian tax payer.

Post by 4u2c
Singaporean chinese are ignoring your post.
They must know you quite well.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
why ! no chinese in malaysia hor ! CNY never celebrated
in malaysia har ! malaysian chinese very different from
singapore chinese ah !

[ignoramus]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:37:40 -0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
why ! no chinese in malaysia hor ! CNY never celebrated
in malaysia har ! malaysian chinese very different from
singapore chinese ah !

What you are whining about seems to relate to Singapore not Malaysia.

I say seems because I don't know how the situation is in Singapore.
Just like you don't know how the situation is in Malaysia.

[ardeedee]

You must be stupid - you cannot distinguish questions from statements -
those questions are for you to answer
if you can and you obviously cannot.

Do Chinese go to Malay houses for CNY in Singapore to celebrate?

Post by Dave Baker
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:37:40 -0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
why ! no chinese in malaysia hor ! CNY never celebrated
in malaysia har ! malaysian chinese very different from
singapore chinese ah !

What you are whining about seems to relate to Singapore not Malaysia.
I say seems because I don't know how the situation is in Singapore.
Just like you don't know how the situation is in Malaysia.

[4u2c]

The Malays, Chinese and Indians in my area do exchange "kuih", cakes and
oranges during their festivals. However the chinese do not invite Malays
over for "makan" because of the "halal food problem" and I'm sure the Malays
understand this.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
it's the time of celebrations ;of being joyous
and sharing and giving and spreading the goodies
and goodwill....well ,at least that's what Christmas
and Hari Rayas were...the haves spread some of
their goodies with the have nots...charity and fraternization
were in the spirit of Christmas and giving alms to
the needy and poor are ordained as part of Hari Raya
celebrations....
where are all these elements in CNY !,me wonders...sure,
the chinese haveth their family reunion dinners then visiting
their elders and paying their respect followed by feasting
and etc.etc......but all these are within the family
only...what about the poor,the needy and friends and fellow
citizens ! especially the non chinese...where is the element
of fraternity here with their neighbors !?
why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by 4u2c
The Malays, Chinese and Indians in my area do exchange "kuih", cakes and
oranges during their festivals. However the chinese do not invite Malays
over for "makan" because of the "halal food problem" and I'm sure the Malays
understand this.

HA HA HA ; i saw this coming ; i mean the halal
excuses but than hor how about the indians ! perhaps,
undesirable color skin or what !

ow come on ! here in singapore our politicians are
forcing all races to share the same table whereas in
malaysia most establishments are sensitive to halal
requirements...your is but a lame excuse...i am sure
fruits,vegetables and water are halal enough...the
intend counts more than anything !

there is something about the chinese here ,CNY ,the
chinese weddings and others that's speakths loud about
their inhospitable attitudes ;especially to non Chinese,
the 'us' & 'them' syndrome.

ever attended chinese and malay and indian weddings !
the malay and indian weddings are a open and a public
thingy ! anyone and everyone are invited...the more the
merrier...never mind who you are or what you are ,contrast
this with Chinese weddings...only on ivitations,the order
goes strictly amongst their elders and close relations,
never mind if the couples never met them before... a very
businesslike affair...go and figure why !

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
it's the time of celebrations ;of being joyous
and sharing and giving and spreading the goodies
and goodwill....well ,at least that's what Christmas
and Hari Rayas were...the haves spread some of
their goodies with the have nots...charity and fraternization
were in the spirit of Christmas and giving alms to
the needy and poor are ordained as part of Hari Raya
celebrations....
where are all these elements in CNY !,me wonders...sure,
the chinese haveth their family reunion dinners then visiting
their elders and paying their respect followed by feasting
and etc.etc......but all these are within the family
only...what about the poor,the needy and friends and fellow
citizens ! especially the non chinese...where is the element
of fraternity here with their neighbors !?
why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

[4u2c]

Any Malays or Indians here having the same problem, I sure would like to
know, or it's just STRAIGHTS TIMED.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
HA HA HA ; i saw this coming ; i mean the halal
excuses but than hor how about the indians ! perhaps,
undesirable color skin or what !
ow come on ! here in singapore our politicians are
forcing all races to share the same table whereas in
malaysia most establishments are sensitive to halal
requirements...your is but a lame excuse...i am sure
fruits,vegetables and water are halal enough...the
intend counts more than anything !
there is something about the chinese here ,CNY ,the
chinese weddings and others that's speakths loud about
their inhospitable attitudes ;especially to non Chinese,
the 'us' & 'them' syndrome.
ever attended chinese and malay and indian weddings !
the malay and indian weddings are a open and a public
thingy ! anyone and everyone are invited...the more the
merrier...never mind who you are or what you are ,contrast
this with Chinese weddings...only on ivitations,the order
goes strictly amongst their elders and close relations,
never mind if the couples never met them before... a very
businesslike affair...go and figure why !

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by 4u2c
Any Malays or Indians here having the same problem, I sure would like to
know, or it's just STRAIGHTS TIMED.

sure ! why don't you find out yourselves and its quite
simple too....observe how many chinese have their doors
wide opened...observe how many non chinese are mingling
amongst the chinese.....and the simplest test ;just go down
to the nearest road near you and observe how many non
chinese are dressed in their fine dresses ! Why,you may ask,
its simple ; when people are invited they are usually dressed
in their finnery...if you see many non chinese going about
their usual way than they are not being invited by the chinese,
its that simple....you may contrast this with say Christmas,
when its usual to find people of all creed and color adorning
their finery and in good spirit and cheers...and most are
not christians....

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
HA HA HA ; i saw this coming ; i mean the halal
excuses but than hor how about the indians ! perhaps,
undesirable color skin or what !
ow come on ! here in singapore our politicians are
forcing all races to share the same table whereas in
malaysia most establishments are sensitive to halal
requirements...your is but a lame excuse...i am sure
fruits,vegetables and water are halal enough...the
intend counts more than anything !
there is something about the chinese here ,CNY ,the
chinese weddings and others that's speakths loud about
their inhospitable attitudes ;especially to non Chinese,
the 'us' & 'them' syndrome.
ever attended chinese and malay and indian weddings !
the malay and indian weddings are a open and a public
thingy ! anyone and everyone are invited...the more the
merrier...never mind who you are or what you are ,contrast
this with Chinese weddings...only on ivitations,the order
goes strictly amongst their elders and close relations,
never mind if the couples never met them before... a very
businesslike affair...go and figure why !

[Dave Baker]

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 18:30:29 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
sure ! why don't you find out yourselves and its quite
simple too....

Have done so, and reject your assertion completely.

Dave

[ardeedee]

What you are saying is that Chinese can never invite their Malay neighbors
because they do not have halal food available for them - you mean Malays
cannot eat cakes and have soft drinks?

Post by 4u2c
Any Malays or Indians here having the same problem, I sure would like to
know, or it's just STRAIGHTS TIMED.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
HA HA HA ; i saw this coming ; i mean the halal
excuses but than hor how about the indians ! perhaps,
undesirable color skin or what !
ow come on ! here in singapore our politicians are
forcing all races to share the same table whereas in
malaysia most establishments are sensitive to halal
requirements...your is but a lame excuse...i am sure
fruits,vegetables and water are halal enough...the
intend counts more than anything !
there is something about the chinese here ,CNY ,the
chinese weddings and others that's speakths loud about
their inhospitable attitudes ;especially to non Chinese,
the 'us' & 'them' syndrome.
ever attended chinese and malay and indian weddings !
the malay and indian weddings are a open and a public
thingy ! anyone and everyone are invited...the more the
merrier...never mind who you are or what you are ,contrast
this with Chinese weddings...only on ivitations,the order
goes strictly amongst their elders and close relations,
never mind if the couples never met them before... a very
businesslike affair...go and figure why !

[4u2c]

Post by ardeedee
What you are saying is that Chinese can never invite their Malay neighbors
because they do not have halal food available for them - you mean Malays
cannot eat cakes and have soft drinks?

Home made cakes? Using home utensils?
Sorry lah, the malays today are different.
My son told me his school malay friends were warned by their teachers not to
buy glass drinks from the canteen "Ah Pek" because they might not be
"clean".

[michael]

Post by 4u2c

Post by ardeedee
What you are saying is that Chinese can never invite their Malay neighbors
because they do not have halal food available for them - you mean Malays
cannot eat cakes and have soft drinks?

Home made cakes? Using home utensils?
Sorry lah, the malays today are different.
My son told me his school malay friends were warned by their teachers not to
buy glass drinks from the canteen "Ah Pek" because they might not be
"clean".

True.

Many Malays here will not eat food prepared by a halal cafeteria
if the food is prepared by a non-Muslim cook.

regards,
michael ... ***@afn.org

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by michael

Post by 4u2c

Post by ardeedee
What you are saying is that Chinese can never invite their Malay neighbors
because they do not have halal food available for them - you mean Malays
cannot eat cakes and have soft drinks?

Home made cakes? Using home utensils?
Sorry lah, the malays today are different.
My son told me his school malay friends were warned by their teachers not to
buy glass drinks from the canteen "Ah Pek" because they might not be
"clean".

True.
Many Malays here will not eat food prepared by a halal cafeteria
if the food is prepared by a non-Muslim cook.

surely their suspicion may have some merits ;
but why look for the slightest excuses when its
easily solved by getting foodstuffs from outlets
they trust...a little adjustment do goes a long
way ....try it !instead of merely being the arm
chair critic...

people are people everywhere ! :-)

Post by michael
regards,

[michael]

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by michael

Post by 4u2c

Post by ardeedee
What you are saying is that Chinese can never invite their Malay neighbors
because they do not have halal food available for them - you mean Malays
cannot eat cakes and have soft drinks?

Home made cakes? Using home utensils?
Sorry lah, the malays today are different.
My son told me his school malay friends were warned by their teachers not to
buy glass drinks from the canteen "Ah Pek" because they might not be
"clean".

True.
Many Malays here will not eat food prepared by a halal cafeteria
if the food is prepared by a non-Muslim cook.

surely their suspicion may have some merits ;
but why look for the slightest excuses when its
easily solved by getting foodstuffs from outlets
they trust...a little adjustment do goes a long
way ....try it !instead of merely being the arm
chair critic...

If those Muslims can't be taught to accept food
cooked by non-muslims in a halal cafeteria,
then the same people should hold their breath
all together because hogs breath the same air as us.

How squeeky clean can you get ?

regards,

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
people are people everywhere ! :-)

Post by michael
regards,

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by michael

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by michael
Many Malays here will not eat food prepared by a halal cafeteria
if the food is prepared by a non-Muslim cook.

surely their suspicion may have some merits ;
but why look for the slightest excuses when its
easily solved by getting foodstuffs from outlets
they trust...a little adjustment do goes a long
way ....try it !instead of merely being the arm
chair critic...

If those Muslims can't be taught to accept food
cooked by non-muslims in a halal cafeteria,
then the same people should hold their breath
all together because hogs breath the same air as us.
How squeeky clean can you get ?

how clean one can get you say ! hogs breath the
same air you say !...well,you do have shit in your
guts too; do you eat them !? afterall,its your very
own :-)

so quit insisting muslims and malays must accept
your perceptions of what indeed is right for them..
your fault line lies very much on your adamant
attitude...

instead try the gentle art of persuasion ; the onus
is only yours to convince the muslims that non muslims
too can offer halal fares...that it goes beyond mere
commercialization and not just a token gestures to make money
from muslims only...you have to sell yourselves !
afterall,Christ too sold himself....its muslims prerogative
to accept or reject your halal food but the failure to
convince them lies entirely with you non muslims only !

Post by michael
regards,

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
people are people everywhere ! :-)

Post by michael
regards,

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by 4u2c

Post by ardeedee
What you are saying is that Chinese can never invite their Malay neighbors
because they do not have halal food available for them - you mean Malays
cannot eat cakes and have soft drinks?

Home made cakes? Using home utensils?

surely ! you chaps can make a little adjustment here
and buy cakes or whatever from halal outlets only..

besides,i seldom come across people making their own
cakes at home...

Post by 4u2c
Sorry lah, the malays today are different.
My son told me his school malay friends were warned by their teachers not to
buy glass drinks from the canteen "Ah Pek" because they might not be
"clean".

it depends ! if that ah pek is an assehole chewing pork
chops whilst dishing out glass drinks than i agree with
the teachers observation...

you see,you chinese are just looking for the slightest
excuse to tar the malays & muslims...if your intend are
honorable and hold good faith in genuinely fraternizing
with other races ; all the above said are just mere mole
holes that can easily be overcomed...examine your intend
rather than questioning your guests misgivings...

[4u2c]

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by 4u2c
Home made cakes? Using home utensils?

surely ! you chaps can make a little adjustment here
and buy cakes or whatever from halal outlets only..

But imagine the awkward situation, the malay guest will have to ask, "Is
this cake halal?"
or do you expect him to trust his host and just eat?

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,i seldom come across people making their own
cakes at home...

Do mean Singapore or Malaysia?

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by 4u2c
Sorry lah, the malays today are different.
My son told me his school malay friends were warned by their teachers

not to

Post by 4u2c
buy glass drinks from the canteen "Ah Pek" because they might not be
"clean".

it depends ! if that ah pek is an assehole chewing pork
chops whilst dishing out glass drinks than i agree with
the teachers observation...

That's the same Ah Pek I used to buy from during my school days - drinks,
ice cream, confections. Do you think the school would allow him to continue
if they knew he brought pork to the school?

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you see,you chinese are just looking for the slightest
excuse to tar the malays & muslims...

No, I'm not.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
if your intend are
honorable and hold good faith in genuinely fraternizing
with other races ;

Other than CNY, you must have seen malays, chinese and indians eating
together outside?

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
all the above said are just mere mole
holes that can easily be overcomed...examine your intend
rather than questioning your guests misgivings...

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by 4u2c
But imagine the awkward situation, the malay guest will have to ask, "Is
this cake halal?"
or do you expect him to trust his host and just eat?

precisely ! you should not put the malays and
muslims in awaked situation...thats the point..
many muslims may even avoid you chinese precisely
because they want to avoid an awaked situation...

you should know better as you are living amongst them..
i once read a book called the 'malay archipelago'
written a few hundred years back..it aptly describes
the psyche of malay traders contrasting with the arabs,
chinese and indian traders...malays hardly bargains,
they state their price and walks away if not met...
japanese too have very similar nature..

so as a host the onus is entirely yours to put them
at ease and make them comfortable...thats what hospitality
is all about....try it ! you will make friends and enrich
your life even more...

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,i seldom come across people making their own
cakes at home...

Do mean Singapore or Malaysia?

LOL! does it matter ; except for rural areas
the role of housewifes and women had vastly
changed nowerdays....the art of cooking is lost
amongst our womenfolk's ! the time consumed in
pursuing aneducation and than working to meet the
expenses have left little time for cooking let
alone making cakes....why do you think fast food
outlets are very popular now ! besides its cheaper
and more economical if not tastier to cater outside
food !

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
it depends ! if that ah pek is an assehole chewing pork
chops whilst dishing out glass drinks than i agree with
the teachers observation...

That's the same Ah Pek I used to buy from during my school days - drinks,
ice cream, confections. Do you think the school would allow him to continue
if they knew he brought pork to the school?

well,your testimony is as good as nothing !
but again if the school allows him to operate
why than do the teachers disagree if by your
own argument that pork is a forbidden thingy
in the school itself ! something is amiss in your
argument...it don't tally !

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
if your intend are
honorable and hold good faith in genuinely fraternizing
with other races ;

Other than CNY, you must have seen malays, chinese and indians eating
together outside?

precisely ! that's my point...now,why should CNY be
any exception !!!...that's my point....if they can
fraternize and eat togather...why not on CNY !?

so quit giving lame excuses and seek ways to harmonize
your bonds transcending above racial and religious
boundries...thats my point...CNY traditionally have
been a very inward looking festive amongst chinese
only...its time you chinese should join the other races
in celebrating CNY spearding the joy ,goodwill and
of course the sprit of charity too...Why Not ! :-)

[ardeedee]

This 42c2 takes the cake - must be kid on the block-head - which Malay ever
cares about eating Halal cakes?

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by 4u2c
But imagine the awkward situation, the malay guest will have to ask, "Is
this cake halal?"
or do you expect him to trust his host and just eat?

precisely ! you should not put the malays and
muslims in awaked situation...thats the point..
many muslims may even avoid you chinese precisely
because they want to avoid an awaked situation...
you should know better as you are living amongst them..
i once read a book called the 'malay archipelago'
written a few hundred years back..it aptly describes
the psyche of malay traders contrasting with the arabs,
chinese and indian traders...malays hardly bargains,
they state their price and walks away if not met...
japanese too have very similar nature..
so as a host the onus is entirely yours to put them
at ease and make them comfortable...thats what hospitality
is all about....try it ! you will make friends and enrich
your life even more...

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
besides,i seldom come across people making their own
cakes at home...

Do mean Singapore or Malaysia?

LOL! does it matter ; except for rural areas
the role of housewifes and women had vastly
changed nowerdays....the art of cooking is lost
amongst our womenfolk's ! the time consumed in
pursuing aneducation and than working to meet the
expenses have left little time for cooking let
alone making cakes....why do you think fast food
outlets are very popular now ! besides its cheaper
and more economical if not tastier to cater outside
food !

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
it depends ! if that ah pek is an assehole chewing pork
chops whilst dishing out glass drinks than i agree with
the teachers observation...

That's the same Ah Pek I used to buy from during my school days - drinks,
ice cream, confections. Do you think the school would allow him to continue
if they knew he brought pork to the school?

well,your testimony is as good as nothing !
but again if the school allows him to operate
why than do the teachers disagree if by your
own argument that pork is a forbidden thingy
in the school itself ! something is amiss in your
argument...it don't tally !

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
if your intend are
honorable and hold good faith in genuinely fraternizing
with other races ;

Other than CNY, you must have seen malays, chinese and indians eating
together outside?

precisely ! that's my point...now,why should CNY be
any exception !!!...that's my point....if they can
fraternize and eat togather...why not on CNY !?
so quit giving lame excuses and seek ways to harmonize
your bonds transcending above racial and religious
boundries...thats my point...CNY traditionally have
been a very inward looking festive amongst chinese
only...its time you chinese should join the other races
in celebrating CNY spearding the joy ,goodwill and
of course the sprit of charity too...Why Not ! :-)

[ignoramus]

Post by 4u2c
But imagine the awkward situation, the malay guest will have to ask, "Is
this cake halal?"
or do you expect him to trust his host and just eat?

The situation need not arise. Just point out what is halal and what
is not halal. Keep them on separate tables. Use paper plates and
disposable utensils.

If you have Malay guests coming over, these are the little things you
can do to avoid awkward situations altogether.

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by ignoramus

Post by 4u2c
But imagine the awkward situation, the malay guest will have to ask, "Is
this cake halal?"
or do you expect him to trust his host and just eat?

The situation need not arise. Just point out what is halal and what
is not halal. Keep them on separate tables. Use paper plates and
disposable utensils.
If you have Malay guests coming over, these are the little things you
can do to avoid awkward situations altogether.

mmm ! i do see you are trained in espionage
which includes how to gain the trust of malays
and muslims ....but why should they share a table
with a T R A I T O R !!!

[ignoramus]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:28:00 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
mmm ! i do see you are trained in espionage
which includes how to gain the trust of malays
and muslims ....but why should they share a table
with a T R A I T O R !!!

Because I am not one and I am not like you.

[jay]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:06:06 +0800, ignoramus

Post by ignoramus

Post by 4u2c
But imagine the awkward situation, the malay guest will have to ask, "Is
this cake halal?"
or do you expect him to trust his host and just eat?

The situation need not arise. Just point out what is halal and what
is not halal. Keep them on separate tables. Use paper plates and
disposable utensils.

would the muslims do the same for hindus or for (jews??????) during
hari raya?

interestingly this was not an issue before the eighties.

Post by ignoramus
If you have Malay guests coming over, these are the little things you
can do to avoid awkward situations altogether.

no, as long as the animals are slaughtered by muslims according to the
koran, how it is cooked is irrelveant served, as long as they are
clean, is irrelevant.

i think the muslim requirements that food be prepared in different
cooking implements and served in separate untensils, is ridiculous.
it is another case of how these people are brow beaten into being more
divine.

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by jay

Post by ignoramus
The situation need not arise. Just point out what is halal and what
is not halal. Keep them on separate tables. Use paper plates and
disposable utensils.

would the muslims do the same for hindus or for (jews??????) during
hari raya?

surely , muslims would not insist hindus be served
beef ! jews on other hand may consume halal food since
its closer to kosher <subject to correction>...

if it escapes you the high caste hindu brahmins will
not even allow a fellow human to touch the utensils
since the touch of lesser being is considered a pollutant
by high caste brahmins...

Post by jay
no, as long as the animals are slaughtered by muslims according to the
koran, how it is cooked is irrelveant served, as long as they are
clean, is irrelevant.

surely,ading a bit of lard must make a difference to
the muslims...

Post by jay
i think the muslim requirements that food be prepared in different
cooking implements and served in separate untensils, is ridiculous.
it is another case of how these people are brow beaten into being more
divine.

you are merely sensationalizing the issue in hand...
i am sure you don't see such in hawker halal food
outlets...

[jay]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:13:39 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay

Post by ignoramus
The situation need not arise. Just point out what is halal and what
is not halal. Keep them on separate tables. Use paper plates and
disposable utensils.

would the muslims do the same for hindus or for (jews??????) during
hari raya?

surely , muslims would not insist hindus be served
beef ! jews on other hand may consume halal food since
its closer to kosher <subject to correction>...

and surely hindus and other non-muslims are not insisting on serving
porks to the muslims guests, are they?

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
if it escapes you the high caste hindu brahmins will
not even allow a fellow human to touch the utensils
since the touch of lesser being is considered a pollutant
by high caste brahmins...

we are no talking about intra-faith prejudices that may exist, are we?
unless you want to use this platform for your anti-hindu rantings.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay
no, as long as the animals are slaughtered by muslims according to the
koran, how it is cooked is irrelveant served, as long as they are
clean, is irrelevant.

surely,ading a bit of lard must make a difference to
the muslims...

we are talking about food void of any pork or derivatives of pork.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay
i think the muslim requirements that food be prepared in different
cooking implements and served in separate untensils, is ridiculous.
it is another case of how these people are brow beaten into being more
divine.

you are merely sensationalizing the issue in hand...
i am sure you don't see such in hawker halal food
outlets...

muslims are insisting on this and i am sensationalizing this? give me
a break.

so all non-muslims should conform to hawker halal food outlets
practises to comfort the muslims?

no wonder non of your chinese friend (if you have any that is) have
invited you over. must be tough being a pariah in s'pore. lol.

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by jay

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
surely , muslims would not insist hindus be served
beef ! jews on other hand may consume halal food since
its closer to kosher <subject to correction>...

and surely hindus and other non-muslims are not insisting on serving
porks to the muslims guests, are they?

they might as well since you insist you version
of halal is good enough ! LOL

Post by jay

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
if it escapes you the high caste hindu brahmins will
not even allow a fellow human to touch the utensils
since the touch of lesser being is considered a pollutant
by high caste brahmins...

we are no talking about intra-faith prejudices that may exist, are we?
unless you want to use this platform for your anti-hindu rantings.

are we not !!!....really !!!...what then are we talking
about here !??????

Post by jay

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay
no, as long as the animals are slaughtered by muslims according to the
koran, how it is cooked is irrelveant served, as long as they are
clean, is irrelevant.

surely,ading a bit of lard must make a difference to
the muslims...

we are talking about food void of any pork or derivatives of pork.

YOU are talking about food void of any pork or derivatives
of pork...me !; i am talking about respecting the sensitivities
of fellow human who holds different faiths,beleives and how
we can bridge them...

Post by jay

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay
i think the muslim requirements that food be prepared in different
cooking implements and served in separate untensils, is ridiculous.
it is another case of how these people are brow beaten into being more
divine.

you are merely sensationalizing the issue in hand...
i am sure you don't see such in hawker halal food
outlets...

muslims are insisting on this and i am sensationalizing this? give me
a break.

you are !

Post by jay
so all non-muslims should conform to hawker halal food outlets
practises to comfort the muslims?

ah ! i do see lack of english comprehension is not
only your problem ,you are anti social too...now if
doesn't strain your brain to much go and figure about
the existence of hawkers,caterers ,fast foods and restaurants
who serves halal food but patronized by every sundries..
do your home work and come back...i have no time for
wayward kids like you who shoots blanks...

Post by jay
no wonder non of your chinese friend (if you have any that is) have
invited you over. must be tough being a pariah in s'pore. lol.

LOL ! so you follow others with this liner and got yourself
screwed ...told you ,you must do some thinking by yorself,at
least once in a while...

go and do a search in googols with my nick and words like
dinner and invitation...anyone would be amazed at the number
of invitations i got from chinese posters..in fact one Chris
Cohchrane,a malayian chinese and the old alumni of stephen
lim was desperately wooing me with free food..even our stephen
lim also begged...its all on record...you see, i don't sit
with anybody....you must have an X factor to be honored by
my presence...and You least qualify not that i have anything
against your gutter upbringing! LOL

[jay]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:52:43 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
surely , muslims would not insist hindus be served
beef ! jews on other hand may consume halal food since
its closer to kosher <subject to correction>...

and surely hindus and other non-muslims are not insisting on serving
porks to the muslims guests, are they?

they might as well since you insist you version
of halal is good enough ! LOL

as long as the beef or other acceptable animals are slaughtered the
right way, it shouldn't matter how they are prepared or who they are
prepared by. unless your version halal also call for the food being
prepared a certain way.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
if it escapes you the high caste hindu brahmins will
not even allow a fellow human to touch the utensils
since the touch of lesser being is considered a pollutant
by high caste brahmins...

we are no talking about intra-faith prejudices that may exist, are we?
unless you want to use this platform for your anti-hindu rantings.

are we not !!!....really !!!...what then are we talking
about here !??????

we are talking about hinduism here? try thinking with what little
grey matter you have left. it is about muslims insisting that other
faiths go out of their way in accomadating them when they are not too
concerned about reciprocating it.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay
no, as long as the animals are slaughtered by muslims according to the
koran, how it is cooked is irrelveant served, as long as they are
clean, is irrelevant.

surely,ading a bit of lard must make a difference to
the muslims...

we are talking about food void of any pork or derivatives of pork.

YOU are talking about food void of any pork or derivatives
of pork...me !; i am talking about respecting the sensitivities
of fellow human who holds different faiths,beleives and how
we can bridge them...

oooo shouting. sure sign having lost all ability to put forth an
argument in any cogent manner.

if you want to respect sensitivites of other faith, it should be
everyone respecting the faith of their guests. however, this is not
the case in m'sia. just go over to the wet markets in johor and see
how beef is openly sold whereas pork vendors have to operate from
closed off section away from the main thorough fare. you want to talk
about sensititvity and respecting other religions, then you must
really enjoy cows being slaughtered on tv in m'sia to be viewed by
hindus.

but that escapes you since you are so anti-chinese anti-hindu among
other things.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay
i think the muslim requirements that food be prepared in different
cooking implements and served in separate untensils, is ridiculous.
it is another case of how these people are brow beaten into being more
divine.

you are merely sensationalizing the issue in hand...
i am sure you don't see such in hawker halal food
outlets...

muslims are insisting on this and i am sensationalizing this? give me
a break.

you are !

you keep thinking that.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay
so all non-muslims should conform to hawker halal food outlets
practises to comfort the muslims?

ah ! i do see lack of english comprehension is not
only your problem ,you are anti social too...now if
doesn't strain your brain to much go and figure about
the existence of hawkers,caterers ,fast foods and restaurants
who serves halal food but patronized by every sundries..
do your home work and come back...i have no time for
wayward kids like you who shoots blanks...

so tell me schizo, if i opened a vegetarian restaraunt can i call the
food halal.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay
no wonder non of your chinese friend (if you have any that is) have
invited you over. must be tough being a pariah in s'pore. lol.

LOL ! so you follow others with this liner and got yourself
screwed ...told you ,you must do some thinking by yorself,at
least once in a while...

well, and you would do well to see a psychiatrist.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
go and do a search in googols with my nick and words like
dinner and invitation...anyone would be amazed at the number
of invitations i got from chinese posters..in fact one Chris
Cohchrane,a malayian chinese and the old alumni of stephen
lim was desperately wooing me with free food..even our stephen
lim also begged...its all on record...you see, i don't sit
with anybody....you must have an X factor to be honored by
my presence...and You least qualify not that i have anything
against your gutter upbringing! LOL

so you get all these invitations (although i think it is for a
different reason) and yet you don't go because they won't serve halal
food. lol.

sunshine, it is not that you don't sit with anybody, but no one wants
to sit with you. you, down right, stink. the cesspool is a more
appropriate place for you. so the next time, when i am in m'sia, and
i want my septic tank cleaned, i will invite you for lunch. shit
eater. lmao.

[Pan]

Post by jay
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:13:39 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

[snip]

Post by jay

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
surely , muslims would not insist hindus be served
beef ! jews on other hand may consume halal food since
its closer to kosher <subject to correction>...

[snip]

Orthodox Jews cannot eat halal food because it is not kosher, and
there is no closer or further from kosher: It's either kosher or it's
treyf (not kosher).

Michael

If you would like to send a private email to me, please take out the TRASH, so to speak. Please do not email me something which you also posted.

[Stephen Lim]

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by 4u2c
Home made cakes? Using home utensils?

surely ! you chaps can make a little adjustment here
and buy cakes or whatever from halal outlets only..

But imagine the awkward situation, the malay guest will have to ask, "Is
this cake halal?"
or do you expect him to trust his host and just eat?

maybe it's si bengkok behaviour which resulted in non invitation to
the homes of his chinese neighbours.

i had had malay friends over for CNY and even for my wedding in a non
halal chinese restaurants..

there are very simple ways to make it possible. If there is an issue
of worry over the halal"ness" of the utensils or food, we can easily
buy or get halal packed food and drinks with disposable
dishes,cups..to not even bother to think it will or will not be a
problem, this will be done anyway.

(well if they asked me secretly for a piece of bak kua, this can also
be arranged... :)

at the end of the day, it is to make your guest feel at home and at
the same time, be able to participate in sharing the festivities
together.

for the wedding, i had arranged for a halal malay caterer with their
own utensils and stuff and food and table set in the chinese
restaurant. and to get this done and coordinate it i got my good malay
muslim friend to help me oversee it...(cannot be everywhere during
that night)..if there is a will, there is a way..

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by Stephen Lim

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by 4u2c
Home made cakes? Using home utensils?

surely ! you chaps can make a little adjustment here
and buy cakes or whatever from halal outlets only..

But imagine the awkward situation, the malay guest will have to ask, "Is
this cake halal?"
or do you expect him to trust his host and just eat?

maybe it's si bengkok behaviour which resulted in non invitation to
the homes of his chinese neighbours.
i had had malay friends over for CNY and even for my wedding in a non
halal chinese restaurants..
there are very simple ways to make it possible. If there is an issue
of worry over the halal"ness" of the utensils or food, we can easily
buy or get halal packed food and drinks with disposable
dishes,cups..to not even bother to think it will or will not be a
problem, this will be done anyway.
(well if they asked me secretly for a piece of bak kua, this can also
be arranged... :)

you must be very ignorant..bak kua comes in beef and
very much halal too...you can buy them in JB along with
the shredded 'sapi' from kelantan...bak ku teh is also
very much halal if chicken is used...incidently,the
spices used comes from indian spice millers...

Post by Stephen Lim
at the end of the day, it is to make your guest feel at home and at
the same time, be able to participate in sharing the festivities
together.
for the wedding, i had arranged for a halal malay caterer with their
own utensils and stuff and food and table set in the chinese
restaurant. and to get this done and coordinate it i got my good malay
muslim friend to help me oversee it...(cannot be everywhere during
that night)..if there is a will, there is a way..

[jay]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:22:31 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you must be very ignorant..bak kua comes in beef and
very much halal too...you can buy them in JB along with
the shredded 'sapi' from kelantan...bak ku teh is also
very much halal if chicken is used...incidently,the
spices used comes from indian spice millers...

so if it is beef, it must be halal? lol.

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by jay
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:22:31 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you must be very ignorant..bak kua comes in beef and
very much halal too...you can buy them in JB along with
the shredded 'sapi' from kelantan...bak ku teh is also
very much halal if chicken is used...incidently,the
spices used comes from indian spice millers...

so if it is beef, it must be halal? lol.

sorry i wrote in english,english is only the
last in the line of my other best lingos but
beyond you too have extreme difficulty in english
comprehension...perhaps pidgin english is your
forte...here it goes..

COW COW ! CHOP CHOP ! MUSLIM CHOP CHOP ! OK OK ! LOL.

[jay]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:51:55 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by jay
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:22:31 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you must be very ignorant..bak kua comes in beef and
very much halal too...you can buy them in JB along with
the shredded 'sapi' from kelantan...bak ku teh is also
very much halal if chicken is used...incidently,the
spices used comes from indian spice millers...

so if it is beef, it must be halal? lol.

sorry i wrote in english,english is only the
last in the line of my other best lingos but
beyond you too have extreme difficulty in english
comprehension...perhaps pidgin english is your
forte...here it goes..

so you can't write. tell me if all beef are halal?

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
COW COW ! CHOP CHOP ! MUSLIM CHOP CHOP ! OK OK ! LOL.

for you it would be suck suck long time.....cheap cheap......

[ignoramus]

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:45:50 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED
<***@scsnscn.com> wrote:
<snipped>

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you see,you chinese are just looking for the slightest
excuse to tar the malays & muslims...

Folks, there we have it.....Straits Timed showing his true colours.

[Dave Baker]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:13:50 +0800, ignoramus

Post by ignoramus
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:45:50 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED
<snipped>

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you see,you chinese are just looking for the slightest
excuse to tar the malays & muslims...

Folks, there we have it.....Straits Timed showing his true colours.

Agreed - especially interesting to note, when his original posting was a
deliberate ploy to tar the Chinese.

Dave

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by Dave Baker
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:13:50 +0800, ignoramus

Post by ignoramus
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:45:50 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED
<snipped>

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you see,you chinese are just looking for the slightest
excuse to tar the malays & muslims...

Folks, there we have it.....Straits Timed showing his true colours.

Agreed - especially interesting to note, when his original posting was a
deliberate ploy to tar the Chinese.
Dave

LOL ! and why not ...after making the greatest Boo Boo
of making yourself of an inbred idiotic ignoramus by
your own admission that your wify had taken a week leave
to keep away from you celebrating CNY by herself ; you
must be the laughing stock of scs and scm ! LOL.

and a malaysian chinese who betrayed his nationality and
fellow citizens, a traitor to his nation,coming to your
aid must have lifted your total humiliation a wee bit..

birds of feather do stick together har !

[ignoramus]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:01:20 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
LOL ! and why not ...after making the greatest Boo Boo
of making yourself of an inbred idiotic ignoramus by
your own admission that your wify had taken a week leave
to keep away from you celebrating CNY by herself ; you
must be the laughing stock of scs and scm ! LOL.

Actually, I am having a really good laugh at you now.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and a malaysian chinese who betrayed his nationality and
fellow citizens, a traitor to his nation,coming to your
aid must have lifted your total humiliation a wee bit..

Oh, you are still on this?

Please carry on. It only adds to your credibility. Not.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
birds of feather do stick together har !

No lah. That's you and ardeedee.

[ardeedee]

You and 42c2 are like featherbrains.

Post by ignoramus
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 01:01:20 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
LOL ! and why not ...after making the greatest Boo Boo
of making yourself of an inbred idiotic ignoramus by
your own admission that your wify had taken a week leave
to keep away from you celebrating CNY by herself ; you
must be the laughing stock of scs and scm ! LOL.

Actually, I am having a really good laugh at you now.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
and a malaysian chinese who betrayed his nationality and
fellow citizens, a traitor to his nation,coming to your
aid must have lifted your total humiliation a wee bit..

Oh, you are still on this?
Please carry on. It only adds to your credibility. Not.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
birds of feather do stick together har !

No lah. That's you and ardeedee.

[ardeedee]

Our Singapore cabinet goes across to visit his wife and her relaives in JB
and he stays behind to mind the computer?

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by Dave Baker
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:13:50 +0800, ignoramus

Post by ignoramus
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:45:50 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED
<snipped>

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you see,you chinese are just looking for the slightest
excuse to tar the malays & muslims...

Folks, there we have it.....Straits Timed showing his true colours.

Agreed - especially interesting to note, when his original posting was a
deliberate ploy to tar the Chinese.
Dave

LOL ! and why not ...after making the greatest Boo Boo
of making yourself of an inbred idiotic ignoramus by
your own admission that your wify had taken a week leave
to keep away from you celebrating CNY by herself ; you
must be the laughing stock of scs and scm ! LOL.
and a malaysian chinese who betrayed his nationality and
fellow citizens, a traitor to his nation,coming to your
aid must have lifted your total humiliation a wee bit..
birds of feather do stick together har !

[ardeedee]

Who can tar the Chinese when they cross the causeway of their own volition?

Post by Dave Baker
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:13:50 +0800, ignoramus

Post by ignoramus
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:45:50 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED
<snipped>

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you see,you chinese are just looking for the slightest
excuse to tar the malays & muslims...

Folks, there we have it.....Straits Timed showing his true colours.

Agreed - especially interesting to note, when his original posting was a
deliberate ploy to tar the Chinese.
Dave

[Stephen Lim]

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:13:50 +0800, ignoramus

Post by ignoramus
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:45:50 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED
<snipped>

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you see,you chinese are just looking for the slightest
excuse to tar the malays & muslims...

Folks, there we have it.....Straits Timed showing his true colours.

please please ..it is bengkok ...that is his name from now on lah..

because in such discussions, no one can bend it like bengkok..

[ardeedee]

Old and worn out grooves - cliches - you still limping from the hundreds of
arse bending you did during CNY to the Malays?

Post by Dave Baker
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 00:13:50 +0800, ignoramus

Post by ignoramus
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:45:50 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED
<snipped>

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you see,you chinese are just looking for the slightest
excuse to tar the malays & muslims...

Folks, there we have it.....Straits Timed showing his true colours.

please please ..it is bengkok ...that is his name from now on lah..
because in such discussions, no one can bend it like bengkok..

[ardeedee]

What colours - you yellow, Dave baker white, and some green with envy?

Post by ignoramus
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:45:50 +0800, STRAIGHTS TIMED
<snipped>

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
you see,you chinese are just looking for the slightest
excuse to tar the malays & muslims...

Folks, there we have it.....Straits Timed showing his true colours.

[ardeedee]

Clean as in halal or clean as in hygienic.

Post by 4u2c

Post by ardeedee
What you are saying is that Chinese can never invite their Malay neighbors
because they do not have halal food available for them - you mean Malays
cannot eat cakes and have soft drinks?

Home made cakes? Using home utensils?
Sorry lah, the malays today are different.
My son told me his school malay friends were warned by their teachers not to
buy glass drinks from the canteen "Ah Pek" because they might not be
"clean".

[ardeedee]

The Malaysian ministers invited the Singapore counterparts to JB for CNY
feasting today - maybe they included halal food? LOL these posters here are
always looking for the least bit of excuse.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by 4u2c
The Malays, Chinese and Indians in my area do exchange "kuih", cakes and
oranges during their festivals. However the chinese do not invite Malays
over for "makan" because of the "halal food problem" and I'm sure the Malays
understand this.

HA HA HA ; i saw this coming ; i mean the halal
excuses but than hor how about the indians ! perhaps,
undesirable color skin or what !
ow come on ! here in singapore our politicians are
forcing all races to share the same table whereas in
malaysia most establishments are sensitive to halal
requirements...your is but a lame excuse...i am sure
fruits,vegetables and water are halal enough...the
intend counts more than anything !
there is something about the chinese here ,CNY ,the
chinese weddings and others that's speakths loud about
their inhospitable attitudes ;especially to non Chinese,
the 'us' & 'them' syndrome.
ever attended chinese and malay and indian weddings !
the malay and indian weddings are a open and a public
thingy ! anyone and everyone are invited...the more the
merrier...never mind who you are or what you are ,contrast
this with Chinese weddings...only on ivitations,the order
goes strictly amongst their elders and close relations,
never mind if the couples never met them before... a very
businesslike affair...go and figure why !

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
it's the time of celebrations ;of being joyous
and sharing and giving and spreading the goodies
and goodwill....well ,at least that's what Christmas
and Hari Rayas were...the haves spread some of
their goodies with the have nots...charity and fraternization
were in the spirit of Christmas and giving alms to
the needy and poor are ordained as part of Hari Raya
celebrations....
where are all these elements in CNY !,me wonders...sure,
the chinese haveth their family reunion dinners then visiting
their elders and paying their respect followed by feasting
and etc.etc......but all these are within the family
only...what about the poor,the needy and friends and fellow
citizens ! especially the non chinese...where is the element
of fraternity here with their neighbors !?
why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by ardeedee
The Malaysian ministers invited the Singapore counterparts to JB for CNY
feasting today - maybe they included halal food? LOL these posters here are
always looking for the least bit of excuse.

this surely must goes down in our history as the best
irony ,ever...why ! that's simple,malaysia a bumi land
invites our chinese ministers to celebrate CNY...!!!

whereas in the entire history of singapore i had never
came across any one of our ministers inviting the
general public to celebrate CNY with them..tsk!tsk!.<shakes head >

[4u2c]

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
this surely must goes down in our history as the best
irony ,ever...why ! that's simple,malaysia a bumi land
invites our chinese ministers to celebrate CNY...!!!

And I'm proud of our PM for doing that.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
whereas in the entire history of singapore i had never
came across any one of our ministers inviting the
general public to celebrate CNY with them..tsk!tsk!.<shakes head >

No wonder you are complaining :-)

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
this surely must goes down in our history as the best
irony ,ever...why ! that's simple,malaysia a bumi land
invites our chinese ministers to celebrate CNY...!!!

And I'm proud of our PM for doing that.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
whereas in the entire history of singapore i had never
came across any one of our ministers inviting the
general public to celebrate CNY with them..tsk!tsk!.<shakes head >

No wonder you are complaining :-)

you now know the reason :-)

[ardeedee]

Who s your PM - Badawi?

Post by 4u2c

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
this surely must goes down in our history as the best
irony ,ever...why ! that's simple,malaysia a bumi land
invites our chinese ministers to celebrate CNY...!!!

And I'm proud of our PM for doing that.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
whereas in the entire history of singapore i had never
came across any one of our ministers inviting the
general public to celebrate CNY with them..tsk!tsk!.<shakes head >

No wonder you are complaining :-)

[ardeedee]

Just to tell GCT and Co that you forget your manners but we do not.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by ardeedee
The Malaysian ministers invited the Singapore counterparts to JB for CNY
feasting today - maybe they included halal food? LOL these posters here are
always looking for the least bit of excuse.

this surely must goes down in our history as the best
irony ,ever...why ! that's simple,malaysia a bumi land
invites our chinese ministers to celebrate CNY...!!!
whereas in the entire history of singapore i had never
came across any one of our ministers inviting the
general public to celebrate CNY with them..tsk!tsk!.<shakes head >

[4u2c]

Post by ardeedee
The Malaysian ministers invited the Singapore counterparts to JB for CNY
feasting today - maybe they included halal food? LOL these posters here are
always looking for the least bit of excuse.

Preparations are by muslims, of course they are halal.
Malaysia is different from Singapore, you have much to learn...

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by 4u2c

Post by ardeedee
The Malaysian ministers invited the Singapore counterparts to JB for CNY
feasting today - maybe they included halal food? LOL these posters here

are

Post by ardeedee
always looking for the least bit of excuse.

Preparations are by muslims, of course they are halal.
Malaysia is different from Singapore, you have much to learn...

why not ! if that pleases the guests !

[ardeedee]

I think we have a non-talented local Chinese Singaporean in 4u2c.
He not too clever what we mean here?

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED

Post by 4u2c

Post by ardeedee
The Malaysian ministers invited the Singapore counterparts to JB for CNY
feasting today - maybe they included halal food? LOL these posters here

are

Post by ardeedee
always looking for the least bit of excuse.

Preparations are by muslims, of course they are halal.
Malaysia is different from Singapore, you have much to learn...

why not ! if that pleases the guests !

[tingt]

CNY is a time of reunion with your family, old friends, old classmates, and
those who appreciate the old friendships. This itself is more important than
any thing else in life.

Those without any of these will be very lonely and hate this sesson. Are you
one of them?

CNY is also an occassion of reftreshing and taking stoke of what you have
done in hte past years, and looking forward to the future of social and
economic development that in a way is helping to promote goodness for a
nation. I found you are lack of understanding the meaning of CNY, I am sad
for you for staying in Singapore for so many year. I even doubt you have
even bother to understand other races' cultural values, that's why you have
such a wrong concept of CNY.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
it's the time of celebrations ;of being joyous
and sharing and giving and spreading the goodies
and goodwill....well ,at least that's what Christmas
and Hari Rayas were...the haves spread some of
their goodies with the have nots...charity and fraternization
were in the spirit of Christmas and giving alms to
the needy and poor are ordained as part of Hari Raya
celebrations....
where are all these elements in CNY !,me wonders...sure,
the chinese haveth their family reunion dinners then visiting
their elders and paying their respect followed by feasting
and etc.etc......but all these are within the family
only...what about the poor,the needy and friends and fellow
citizens ! especially the non chinese...where is the element
of fraternity here with their neighbors !?
why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by tingt
CNY is a time of reunion with your family, old friends, old classmates, and
those who appreciate the old friendships. This itself is more important than
any thing else in life.

how about gambling !,how important is this aspect !

Post by tingt
Those without any of these will be very lonely and hate this sesson. Are you
one of them?
CNY is also an occassion of reftreshing and taking stoke of what you have
done in hte past years, and looking forward to the future of social and
economic development that in a way is helping to promote goodness for a
nation. I found you are lack of understanding the meaning of CNY, I am sad
for you for staying in Singapore for so many year. I even doubt you have
even bother to understand other races' cultural values, that's why you have
such a wrong concept of CNY.

how does one understand the chinese and CNY if they
shut themselves from fraternizing with other races !!!

[ardeedee]

Yes you are right the Chinese now celebrate CNY very inward looking which is
quite a departure when we were small when the Chinese neighbors wood invite
all the neighborhood children and have a makan in their house with
firecrackers and angpows .

Nowadays most Chinese even run off to some hotel in Singapore or to their
relatives in Malaysia to escape the any pows etc and celebrations - these
are what you call the selfish ones.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
it's the time of celebrations ;of being joyous
and sharing and giving and spreading the goodies
and goodwill....well ,at least that's what Christmas
and Hari Rayas were...the haves spread some of
their goodies with the have nots...charity and fraternization
were in the spirit of Christmas and giving alms to
the needy and poor are ordained as part of Hari Raya
celebrations....
where are all these elements in CNY !,me wonders...sure,
the chinese haveth their family reunion dinners then visiting
their elders and paying their respect followed by feasting
and etc.etc......but all these are within the family
only...what about the poor,the needy and friends and fellow
citizens ! especially the non chinese...where is the element
of fraternity here with their neighbors !?
why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by ardeedee
Yes you are right the Chinese now celebrate CNY very inward looking which is
quite a departure when we were small when the Chinese neighbors wood invite
all the neighborhood children and have a makan in their house with
firecrackers and angpows .
Nowadays most Chinese even run off to some hotel in Singapore or to their
relatives in Malaysia to escape the any pows etc and celebrations - these
are what you call the selfish ones.

having grown up amidst and amongst the chinese ; i should
know....CNY is not within the leagues of Christmas or Hari
Rayas...these celebrations though religious in nature cuts
across all ethnicity and etc. ..

yet,our ministers goes around preaching multi racialism lar
and what not when they shut off themselves from other races...
with 78 % dominance even if a small minority of say 10 %
chinese practises some sort of fraternity in this season of
their festivity ,that itself would practically occupy and spread
goodwill to the entire minorities here...i suspect less than
1 % of chinese actually goes out of their ethnicity and extend their
hands of friendship to other races here....

[mips]

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
i suspect less than
1 % of chinese actually goes out of their ethnicity and extend their
hands of friendship to other races here....

Yeah, so what shit face? What can you do about it?

[druid]

I"ve always wished my Malay friends and colleagues "Selamat Hari Raya"
over the years and not once have they EVER wished me "Gong Xi Fa Cai".

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
it's the time of celebrations ;of being joyous
and sharing and giving and spreading the goodies
and goodwill....well ,at least that's what Christmas
and Hari Rayas were...the haves spread some of
their goodies with the have nots...charity and fraternization
were in the spirit of Christmas and giving alms to
the needy and poor are ordained as part of Hari Raya
celebrations....
where are all these elements in CNY !,me wonders...sure,
the chinese haveth their family reunion dinners then visiting
their elders and paying their respect followed by feasting
and etc.etc......but all these are within the family
only...what about the poor,the needy and friends and fellow
citizens ! especially the non chinese...where is the element
of fraternity here with their neighbors !?
why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

[STRAIGHTS TIMED]

Post by druid
I"ve always wished my Malay friends and colleagues "Selamat Hari Raya"
over the years and not once have they EVER wished me "Gong Xi Fa Cai".

perhaps,if its not so tongue twisting it may help..
how about happy new year instead !

[Republic of China]

this is one motherfucker racist bastard. he should be sent to southern Thai
to face the Thai army.

"STRAIGHTS TIMED" <***@scsnscn.com> wrote in message news:***@scsnscn.com...

[michael]

Post by druid
I"ve always wished my Malay friends and colleagues "Selamat Hari Raya"
over the years and not once have they EVER wished me "Gong Xi Fa Cai".

Many of them prolly think Gong Xi Fa Cai is some religious statement from
a hundred gods. :)

regards,

Post by druid

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
it's the time of celebrations ;of being joyous
and sharing and giving and spreading the goodies
and goodwill....well ,at least that's what Christmas
and Hari Rayas were...the haves spread some of
their goodies with the have nots...charity and fraternization
were in the spirit of Christmas and giving alms to
the needy and poor are ordained as part of Hari Raya
celebrations....
where are all these elements in CNY !,me wonders...sure,
the chinese haveth their family reunion dinners then visiting
their elders and paying their respect followed by feasting
and etc.etc......but all these are within the family
only...what about the poor,the needy and friends and fellow
citizens ! especially the non chinese...where is the element
of fraternity here with their neighbors !?
why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

[Bad boy]

Racist bastard.

Post by STRAIGHTS TIMED
where are all these elements in CNY !,me wonders...sure,
the chinese haveth their family reunion dinners then visiting
their elders and paying their respect followed by feasting
and etc.etc......but all these are within the family
only...what about the poor,the needy and friends and fellow
citizens ! especially the non chinese...where is the element
of fraternity here with their neighbors !?
why is this inward looking trend prevalent amongst the chinese
here...why are they not sharing their celebrations with
the less fortunate ,their neighbors and non chinese !?

[Bad boy]

Racist bastard.

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Post by Bad boy
Racist bastard.