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Identify this stock car's car body and grille?
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b***@hotmail.com
2015-06-19 19:54:25 UTC
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Looks like a 30's Ford coupe, but really I don't know.

The grille reminds me of a Morris or Wolseley.

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I'd be grateful for a definite id.

(The American car behind is a 1948 Buick Roadmaster.)

Cheers!
Davey
2015-06-19 23:01:29 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
Post by b***@hotmail.com
Looks like a 30's Ford coupe, but really I don't know.
The grille reminds me of a Morris or Wolseley.
http://www.oldstox.com/images/hudson%20query.jpg
Is the ref. to Hudson any use?
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b***@hotmail.com
2015-06-19 23:04:26 UTC
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Post by Davey
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
Is the ref. to Hudson any use?
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Davey.
No, sorry, I had been trying to figure whether the engine was a Hudson straight-8, probably is. So I was just after the car body. I am not good at 30s and 40s cars, but it looks a bit like a Ford "B" or similar.
Davey
2015-06-19 23:42:45 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:04:26 -0700 (PDT)
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Post by Davey
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 12:54:25 -0700 (PDT)
Is the ref. to Hudson any use?
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Davey.
No, sorry, I had been trying to figure whether the engine was a
Hudson straight-8, probably is. So I was just after the car body. I
am not good at 30s and 40s cars, but it looks a bit like a Ford "B"
or similar.
Is this in the UK or USA?
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b***@hotmail.com
2015-06-20 01:56:18 UTC
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Post by Davey
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:04:26 -0700 (PDT)
Is this in the UK or USA?
-- > Davey.
The photo was taken in the UK at a 1/4 mile track, late 1950s. A lot of the stock car drivers got hold of American motors though, they often ran scrapyards and bought a ton of stuff off the USAF. So the 'mystery' bodywork could be American, though that rad grille def looks like Riley or Wolseley?
Davey
2015-06-20 10:34:13 UTC
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:56:18 -0700 (PDT)
Post by b***@hotmail.com
Post by Davey
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:04:26 -0700 (PDT)
Is this in the UK or USA?
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The photo was taken in the UK at a 1/4 mile track, late 1950s. A lot
of the stock car drivers got hold of American motors though, they
often ran scrapyards and bought a ton of stuff off the USAF. So the
'mystery' bodywork could be American, though that rad grille def
looks like Riley or Wolseley?
It doesn't have the illuminated oval that was the Wolseley standard,
but I also am no expert in those vehicles. A Rover badge, maybe? But
the bodywork shape implies American to me.
Maybe ask in those Clubs Forums or newsgroups, if they exist?

I'll send the link to a US friend.
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Davey
2015-06-25 16:31:06 UTC
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On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 11:34:13 +0100
Post by Davey
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 18:56:18 -0700 (PDT)
Post by b***@hotmail.com
Post by Davey
On Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:04:26 -0700 (PDT)
Is this in the UK or USA?
-- > Davey.
The photo was taken in the UK at a 1/4 mile track, late 1950s. A lot
of the stock car drivers got hold of American motors though, they
often ran scrapyards and bought a ton of stuff off the USAF. So the
'mystery' bodywork could be American, though that rad grille def
looks like Riley or Wolseley?
It doesn't have the illuminated oval that was the Wolseley standard,
but I also am no expert in those vehicles. A Rover badge, maybe? But
the bodywork shape implies American to me.
Maybe ask in those Clubs Forums or newsgroups, if they exist?
I'll send the link to a US friend.
"I would hazard a guess, It's American late 20s early 30s
Terraplane(Hudson) is a high probability. If on orig frame it came
with inline 6 or 8."
Any help? Or have you already identified it?
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Davey
b***@hotmail.com
2015-06-26 20:54:40 UTC
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Post by Davey
Any help? Or have you already identified it?
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Davey
No, only someone who agreed with you that we're looking at a Morris grille.
At first I thought it was an American Ford B coupe Loading Image...
but the windscreen/cowl is not right.

Then I looked for a 1930 Ford, and I am certain this is a 1930 Ford "A" coupe:
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So I'm settling for that. I have no idea how many Ford A's were imported to the UK in 1930, though I know quite a few American-design Fords were actually built at Dagenham.
Cheers and thanks for chasing this up!
b***@hotmail.com
2015-06-26 21:22:11 UTC
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Post by Davey
Any help? Or have you already identified it?
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Hi again: I was very ignorant: Ford built many thousands of the Model A in Dagenham, 1931 to 1937.

I guess I got brainwashed by reading HOT ROD MAGAZINE all those years ago at school when I should have been studying --- I thought they were all strictly Yank vehicles!
Dave Plowman (News)
2015-06-27 00:12:25 UTC
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Post by b***@hotmail.com
Hi again: I was very ignorant: Ford built many thousands of the Model A
in Dagenham, 1931 to 1937.
I'm not sure that body design was ever made in the UK, though. Think it
was called a doctor's coupe in the US.
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b***@hotmail.com
2015-06-27 15:41:57 UTC
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I'm not sure that body design was ever made in the UK, though. Think it
was called a doctor's coupe in the US.
Thanks --- I will chase up that name and style.
"Plowman", I used to know a Plowman family in Northamptonshire may years ago. :-)
b***@hotmail.com
2015-07-01 13:07:43 UTC
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Post by Dave Plowman (News)
Post by b***@hotmail.com
Hi again: I was very ignorant: Ford built many thousands of the Model A
in Dagenham, 1931 to 1937.
I'm not sure that body design was ever made in the UK, though. Think it
was called a doctor's coupe in the US.
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The "doctor's coupe" was a popular American nickname for the Ford Model T coupe in the 1920's, and its bodywork does not quite match the stock car under discussion --- its rear quarter light was larger and taller, and the front "crease lines" do not match it. Cheers.
Dave Plowman (News)
2015-06-20 10:40:03 UTC
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Post by b***@hotmail.com
Looks like a 30's Ford coupe, but really I don't know.
The grille reminds me of a Morris or Wolseley.
http://www.oldstox.com/images/hudson%20query.jpg
I'd be grateful for a definite id.
(The American car behind is a 1948 Buick Roadmaster.)
Cheers!
The grill is Morris, I'd say. Wolseley badges are oval.
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