NBC Dumps Silverlight; YouTube to power Olympics streaming video

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
http://androidcommunity.com/nbc-dumps-silverlight-youtube-to-power-olympics-streaming-video-20120308/
Can I just say: finally. Finally. This isnt stricly an Android story,
but NBCs decision to dump Microsofts proprietary steaming
technology, Silverlight, is a win for every single Android user who
wants to watch the Olympics. Why? Because theyre switching to
YouTube, Googles very own video playground thats deeply integrated
into (almost) every Android phone and tablet. In addition to making
Android sports fans the world over happy, its going to save millions
of Internet citizens the hassle of installing the Silverlight plugin
which they havent needed since two years ago, when the last Olympics
made use of it.
<chuckle>

Praise the Lord. That was so fscking obnoxious. "Only users of
Microshit products can view these videos."

--
"Why should they support the tiny 1% who wish to be different?" -
"True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark, defending the need to use
Microsoft products to access government services

Big Steel

2012-07-12 13:12:25 UTC

On 7/12/2012 8:37 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

<snipped>

The guy is an idiot to think that Sliverlight is just for watching
videos. I am sure MS doesn't care if NBC uses Silverlight or not, since
Sliverlight is more than video streaming.

Ahlstrom's ignorance is bliss.

Tom Shelton

2012-07-12 17:30:56 UTC

Post by Big Steel
<snipped>
The guy is an idiot to think that Sliverlight is just for watching
videos. I am sure MS doesn't care if NBC uses Silverlight or not,
since Sliverlight is more than video streaming.
Ahlstrom's ignorance is bliss.

Silverlight is all but dead...

--
Tom Shelton

chrisv

2012-07-12 18:02:45 UTC

Post by Big Steel
The guy is an idiot to think that Sliverlight is just for watching
videos.

Big Stool is an idiot and a liar for making such a claim.

Post by Big Steel
I am sure MS doesn't care if NBC uses Silverlight or not,

Yet more lying. M$ has *always* "cared" about getting the world to
use their proprietary "standards". While some are more successful
than others, they all serve the purpose of maintaining Microsoft's
lock on the desktop market.

Post by Big Steel
since Sliverlight is more than video streaming.

Nice "logic". Also, he knew that.

Idiocy and lies is all you have, Big Stool.

Post by Big Steel
Ahlstrom's ignorance is bliss.

Your lies are obvious.

Big Steel

2012-07-12 18:51:51 UTC

Post by Big Steel
The guy is an idiot to think that Sliverlight is just for watching
videos.

Big Stool is an idiot and a liar for making such a claim.

Post by Big Steel
I am sure MS doesn't care if NBC uses Silverlight or not,

Post by Big Steel
since Sliverlight is more than video streaming.

Nice "logic". Also, he knew that.
Idiocy and lies is all you have, Big Stool.

Post by Big Steel
Ahlstrom's ignorance is bliss.

Your lies are obvious.

The guy is an ignorant clown. He can come with nothing else but calling
someone a liar, and he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall, let
alone claim what he thinks someone else knows.

Big Steel

2012-07-12 18:48:26 UTC

Silverlight is all but dead...

Man please, I had an interview for a contract with PNC Bank recently
that has Sliverlight enterprise level Intranet applications. There are a
lot of companies that are using Sliverlight in enterprise level Intranet
applications over Windows or ASP.NET forms. The new boy is WPF that is
being used in Intranet enterprise level .NET solutions.

Sliverlight is not going away anytime soon.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/dd315415.aspx

Big Steel

2012-07-12 19:11:35 UTC

On 7/12/2012 1:30 PM, Tom Shelton wrote:

Just to make it clear to you, Silverlight is not going away when it
comes to creating enterprise level .NET business solutions.

<http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/82298/A-Sample-Silverlight-4-Application-Using-MEF-MVVM>

Tom Shelton

2012-07-12 20:27:13 UTC

Post by Big Steel
Just to make it clear to you, Silverlight is not going away when it
comes to creating enterprise level .NET business solutions.
<http://www.codeproject.com/Articles/82298/A-Sample-Silverlight-4-Application-Using-MEF-MVVM>

If you are doing enterprise apps using silverlight (or flex for that
matter) in light of the recent changes at ms. Wow!

Seriously, dude - Silverlight has a very short life span at this point.
It's on life support, it's being dumped as the main app framework for
even wp. Using silverlight now, is like continuing to support windows
forms - it hasn't been in maintence mode since .net 2. Is ms even
working on Silverlight 6? I'm not saying it's going to be dead
tomorrow, there is still a few more years left (3 - 5, maybe) - but,
not many beyond that.

WPF+MVVM is where you should be focusing for desktop. Razor+Microsoft
MVC is where you should be looking for enterprise web apps.

--
Tom Shelton

Big Steel

2012-07-12 20:40:09 UTC

If you are doing enterprise apps using silverlight (or flex for that
matter) in light of the recent changes at ms. Wow!

Look man did you not see the word *contractor* in the sentence?

Post by Tom Shelton
Seriously, dude - Silverlight has a very short life span at this point.
It's on life support, it's being dumped as the main app framework for
even wp. Using silverlight now, is like continuing to support windows
forms - it hasn't been in maintence mode since .net 2. Is ms even
working on Silverlight 6? I'm not saying it's going to be dead tomorrow,
there is still a few more years left (3 - 5, maybe) - but, not many
beyond that.

I don't care how many more years it has left. COM solutions had so many
years left when .NET hit the scene. Hows is that working out? IBM
mainframes had so many years left once client/sever hit the scene. How
is that working out?

Post by Tom Shelton
WPF+MVVM is where you should be focusing for desktop. Razor+Microsoft
MVC is where you should be looking for enterprise web apps.

I just came off of a WPF MVVM contract, and they are talking about WPF
dying in the WPF forms, and MVP is a viable solution on ASP.NET, WPF,
Windows and Silverlight.

As far as someone telling me that something is going to die, I'll
believe it when I see it.

Tom Shelton

2012-07-12 21:53:50 UTC

If you are doing enterprise apps using silverlight (or flex for that
matter) in light of the recent changes at ms. Wow!

Look man did you not see the word *contractor* in the sentence?

Post by Tom Shelton
Seriously, dude - Silverlight has a very short life span at this point.
It's on life support, it's being dumped as the main app framework for
even wp. Using silverlight now, is like continuing to support
windows
forms - it hasn't been in maintence mode since .net 2. Is ms even
working on Silverlight 6? I'm not saying it's going to be dead tomorrow,
there is still a few more years left (3 - 5, maybe) - but, not many
beyond that.

I don't care how many more years it has left. COM solutions had so
many years left when .NET hit the scene. Hows is that working out?

Pretty well actually. I hardly ever touch com anymore. Is it gone?
no. but, only idiots every thougth it would.

Silverlight is turning becomming a legacy tech. You want to use it -
fine, but, it's already being phased out where I work - and flex as
well.

Post by Big Steel
IBM mainframes had so many years left once client/sever hit the
scene. How is that working out?

Post by Tom Shelton
WPF+MVVM is where you should be focusing for desktop.
Razor+Microsoft
MVC is where you should be looking for enterprise web apps.

I just came off of a WPF MVVM contract, and they are talking about
WPF dying in the WPF forms, and MVP is a viable solution on ASP.NET,
WPF, Windows and Silverlight.

? WPF is the core of the new metro interface on windows/windows phone.
Silverlight was based on a subset of wpf. For doing desktop work, WPF
is the solution - even on the legacy desktop. WPF isn't going
anywhere - at least not for a while.

--
Tom Shelton

Big Steel

2012-07-12 22:04:03 UTC

If you are doing enterprise apps using silverlight (or flex for that
matter) in light of the recent changes at ms. Wow!

Look man did you not see the word *contractor* in the sentence?

I don't care how many more years it has left. COM solutions had so
many years left when .NET hit the scene. Hows is that working out?

Pretty well actually. I hardly ever touch com anymore. Is it gone? no.
but, only idiots every thougth it would.

You are not out there in the trenches. .NET is COM interoperable, and if
it's not broke then why fix it?

Silverlight is turning becomming a legacy tech. You want to use it -
fine, but, it's already being phased out where I work - and flex as well.

That's you and a single company, and one shoe doesn't fit all.

I want to use it? I am going to get paid for using it no matter what? If
the client wants me to use it, then you can best believe I am going to
use it.

Post by Big Steel
IBM mainframes had so many years left once client/sever hit the scene.
How is that working out?

Post by Tom Shelton
WPF+MVVM is where you should be focusing for desktop. Razor+Microsoft
MVC is where you should be looking for enterprise web apps.

I just came off of a WPF MVVM contract, and they are talking about WPF
dying in the WPF forms, and MVP is a viable solution on ASP.NET, WPF,
Windows and Silverlight.

? WPF is the core of the new metro interface on windows/windows phone.
Silverlight was based on a subset of wpf. For doing desktop work, WPF is
the solution - even on the legacy desktop. WPF isn't going anywhere - at
least not for a while.

You do know you can use WPF for Web based solutions too, right?

The whole world is not running on smartphones not anytime soon. And I
suspect Windows 8 is going to be backwards compatible, allowing one to
turn stuff off like MS has done in the past.

Tom Shelton

2012-07-12 22:16:42 UTC

If you are doing enterprise apps using silverlight (or flex for that
matter) in light of the recent changes at ms. Wow!

Look man did you not see the word *contractor* in the sentence?

I don't care how many more years it has left. COM solutions had so
many years left when .NET hit the scene. Hows is that working out?

Pretty well actually. I hardly ever touch com anymore. Is it gone? no.
but, only idiots every thougth it would.

You are not out there in the trenches. .NET is COM interoperable, and
if it's not broke then why fix it?

That makes no sense? Of course .net is com interoperable. But, that
doesn't mean you have to actually get down and dirty with it.
Seriously, I'm not sure what your point is here. I think your arguing
for the sake of it now.

Silverlight is turning becomming a legacy tech. You want to use it -
fine, but, it's already being phased out where I work - and flex as well.

That's you and a single company, and one shoe doesn't fit all.

If you look at the company i work for as a whole, we are bigger than
ms.

Post by Big Steel
I want to use it? I am going to get paid for using it no matter what?
If the client wants me to use it, then you can best believe I am
going to use it.

Any informed client is not going to use it for a new project. I'm not
even srue why you would want to. asp.net razor/mvc is a much nicer
solution anyway.

Post by Big Steel
IBM mainframes had so many years left once client/sever hit the scene.
How is that working out?

Post by Tom Shelton
WPF+MVVM is where you should be focusing for desktop.
Razor+Microsoft
MVC is where you should be looking for enterprise web apps.

I just came off of a WPF MVVM contract, and they are talking about WPF
dying in the WPF forms, and MVP is a viable solution on ASP.NET, WPF,
Windows and Silverlight.

? WPF is the core of the new metro interface on windows/windows phone.
Silverlight was based on a subset of wpf. For doing desktop work, WPF is
the solution - even on the legacy desktop. WPF isn't going anywhere - at
least not for a while.

You do know you can use WPF for Web based solutions too, right?
The whole world is not running on smartphones not anytime soon. And I
suspect Windows 8 is going to be backwards compatible, allowing one
to turn stuff off like MS has done in the past.

Not even sure what your getting at. WPF works on the legacy destop as
well. And, as of the latest release, there is no way to turn off
metro. But, that's neither here nor there. The fact is that windows
froms has not been touched other than bug fixes in like 7 years :) Not
saying i don't use it - I do, for quick and dirty. But, I certainly
wouldn't for a new large scale project.

--
Tom Shelton

Big Steel

2012-07-12 22:41:10 UTC

If you are doing enterprise apps using silverlight (or flex for that
matter) in light of the recent changes at ms. Wow!

Look man did you not see the word *contractor* in the sentence?

I don't care how many more years it has left. COM solutions had so
many years left when .NET hit the scene. Hows is that working out?

Pretty well actually. I hardly ever touch com anymore. Is it gone? no.
but, only idiots every thougth it would.

You are not out there in the trenches. .NET is COM interoperable, and
if it's not broke then why fix it?

That makes no sense? Of course .net is com interoperable. But, that
doesn't mean you have to actually get down and dirty with it. Seriously,
I'm not sure what your point is here. I think your arguing for the sake
of it now.

Are you serious? It's at times you have to get down and dirty with .NET
and or COM.

Silverlight is turning becomming a legacy tech. You want to use it -
fine, but, it's already being phased out where I work - and flex as well.

That's you and a single company, and one shoe doesn't fit all.

If you look at the company i work for as a whole, we are bigger than ms.

What does that mean? It means nothing as far as I am concerned. I have
worked in companies bigger than MS.

Post by Big Steel
I want to use it? I am going to get paid for using it no matter what?
If the client wants me to use it, then you can best believe I am going
to use it.

Any informed client is not going to use it for a new project. I'm not
even srue why you would want to. asp.net razor/mvc is a much nicer
solution anyway.

Any informed client is going to use it. What as I as a contractor care
about it? Pay me for my expertise, I don't care what a company is using
just pay me.

Post by Big Steel
IBM mainframes had so many years left once client/sever hit the scene.
How is that working out?

Post by Tom Shelton
WPF+MVVM is where you should be focusing for desktop. Razor+Microsoft
MVC is where you should be looking for enterprise web apps.

I just came off of a WPF MVVM contract, and they are talking about WPF
dying in the WPF forms, and MVP is a viable solution on ASP.NET, WPF,
Windows and Silverlight.

? WPF is the core of the new metro interface on windows/windows phone.
Silverlight was based on a subset of wpf. For doing desktop work, WPF is
the solution - even on the legacy desktop. WPF isn't going anywhere - at
least not for a while.

You do know you can use WPF for Web based solutions too, right?
The whole world is not running on smartphones not anytime soon. And I
suspect Windows 8 is going to be backwards compatible, allowing one to
turn stuff off like MS has done in the past.

Not even sure what your getting at. WPF works on the legacy destop as
well. And, as of the latest release, there is no way to turn off metro.
But, that's neither here nor there. The fact is that windows froms has
not been touched other than bug fixes in like 7 years :) Not saying i
don't use it - I do, for quick and dirty. But, I certainly wouldn't for
a new large scale project.

I don't see your point. I don't care what a client is using, as long as
they pay me for my expertise. I have always been on the bleeding edge of
technology from everything on the mainframes back in the day, over DEC,
PDP a lot of different computer systems as a programmer and over to
client/server from COM, COM+ and now .NET.

2012-07-12 23:03:58 UTC

Post by Big Steel
I don't see your point. I don't care what a client is using, as long as
they pay me for my expertise. I have always been on the bleeding edge of
technology from everything on the mainframes back in the day, over DEC,
PDP a lot of different computer systems as a programmer and over to
client/server from COM, COM+ and now .NET.

Seriously doubt all of your claims.

The bleeding edge is Linux and unless you worked at that coal face
you are nobody.

Things a .nit are just pea shooters compared to Linux and
the use command line and scripting.
Try it.
If you used Gambas and scripting along with open source
libraries and got paid, like I do, then you got
the best of command line and gui integrated into
some super human tool.

I can beat you any day on any task with Linux, Gambas,
sqlite and some scripts. e.g. half a billion data points
analyzed in about half hour with Gambas and sqlite3.

Here look - things you couldn't even dream about
and all done with command line:

Linux checks 2.5 million files in 3.5 seconds
---------------------------------------------

Its just truly amazing.

The CPU is a mediocre Intel G840 with 8Gb of RAM.
The OS was Ubuntu 11.10.

Each file is about 30K

The script is saved in a file called check_camera_directory.sh
and it contains this:

#!/bin/bash
ls -R ftp/cam1 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam2 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam3 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam4 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam5 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam6 -f | wc -l

To measure how long that script takes to run I did this:

time bash check_camera_directory.sh

And the answer printed out in 3.5 seconds:

428653
430251
428467
495217
483263
495673

real 0m3.474s
user 0m1.688s
sys 0m1.780s

The first time the script ran, it took 48 seconds.
The second time it took 5 seconds.
All further attempts were 3.5 seconds.

Totally and absolutely amazed!!

These directories are being updated by
cameras uploading a picture every second per camera.

Tom Shelton

2012-07-12 23:08:33 UTC

Post by Big Steel
I don't see your point. I don't care what a client is using, as long
as they pay me for my expertise. I have always been on the bleeding
edge of technology from everything on the mainframes back in the
day, over DEC, PDP a lot of different computer systems as a
programmer and over to client/server from COM, COM+ and now .NET.

LOL.. You are a retard. Gambas? get real.

--
Tom Shelton

Big Steel

2012-07-12 23:55:15 UTC

Post by Big Steel
I don't see your point. I don't care what a client is using, as long
as they pay me for my expertise. I have always been on the bleeding
edge of technology from everything on the mainframes back in the day,
over DEC, PDP a lot of different computer systems as a programmer and
over to client/server from COM, COM+ and now .NET.

LOL.. You are a retard. Gambas? get real.

Babbling idiot 7 like chrisv just as to slobber mouth it.

Big Steel

2012-07-12 23:39:34 UTC

On 7/12/2012 7:03 PM, 7 wrote:

<snipped>

You are the idiot inventor of the year. So what some slobber mouth clown
like you thinks or babbles means what to me? It doesn't mean anything
and neither do you.

Nobody

2012-07-13 02:33:58 UTC

Post by Big Steel
<snipped>
You are the idiot inventor of the year. So what some slobber mouth clown
like you thinks or babbles means what to me? It doesn't mean anything
and neither do you.

So that's why you read and reply to his posts! Thanks for clearing
that up.

Big Steel

2012-07-13 02:40:49 UTC

DFS

2012-07-13 14:05:11 UTC

LMAO!

Fraud, you've been proven over and over and over to be a liar and an idiot.

It took me 15 minutes to replicate your stupid Gambas SHELL examples -
which you claimed could not be done in Windows.

The thread is here in case you forgot what a moron you are:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/hKx0ldthVSM

Post by 7
e.g. half a billion data points
analyzed in about half hour with Gambas and sqlite3.

What does "analyzed" mean?

Where's the DDL, the SQL and the Gambas "analysis" code?

Post by 7
Here look - things you couldn't even dream about
Linux checks 2.5 million files in 3.5 seconds
---------------------------------------------
Its just truly amazing.
The CPU is a mediocre Intel G840 with 8Gb of RAM.
The OS was Ubuntu 11.10.
Each file is about 30K
The script is saved in a file called check_camera_directory.sh
#!/bin/bash
ls -R ftp/cam1 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam2 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam3 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam4 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam5 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam6 -f | wc -l
time bash check_camera_directory.sh
428653
430251
428467
495217
483263
495673
real 0m3.474s
user 0m1.688s
sys 0m1.780s
The first time the script ran, it took 48 seconds.
The second time it took 5 seconds.
All further attempts were 3.5 seconds.

Why so slow to count a few files in a folder?

Post by 7
Totally and absolutely amazed!!
These directories are being updated by
cameras uploading a picture every second per camera.

Another of your worthless "inventions"...

Hadron

2012-07-13 16:10:17 UTC

Post by DFS

LMAO!
Fraud, you've been proven over and over and over to be a liar and an idiot.
It took me 15 minutes to replicate your stupid Gambas SHELL examples -
which you claimed could not be done in Windows.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/hKx0ldthVSM

Post by 7
e.g. half a billion data points
analyzed in about half hour with Gambas and sqlite3.

What does "analyzed" mean?
Where's the DDL, the SQL and the Gambas "analysis" code?

Why so slow to count a few files in a folder?

Post by 7
Totally and absolutely amazed!!
These directories are being updated by
cameras uploading a picture every second per camera.

Another of your worthless "inventions"...

Somewhat scarily I actually think he IS serious.

--
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user: User-Agent: Outlook 5.5 (WinNT 5.0), User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0
(Linux), Message-ID: <wPGdnd3NnOM0ACfdRVn-***@comcast.com>

2012-07-13 20:23:42 UTC

LMAO!

Bwaaha..

As I said you are an unemployable nobody.

Here something something to try and duplicate and
post results with your windummy retard's osen
any time you are ready:

DFS chicken will now cluck and run away!!!!!

BEWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!

Linux checks 2.5 million files in 3.5 seconds
---------------------------------------------

Its just truly amazing.

The CPU is a mediocre Intel G840 with 8Gb of RAM.
The OS was Ubuntu 11.10.

Each file is about 30K

The script is saved in a file called check_camera_directory.sh
and it contains this:

#!/bin/bash
ls -R ftp/cam1 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam2 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam3 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam4 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam5 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam6 -f | wc -l

To measure how long that script takes to run I did this:

time bash check_camera_directory.sh

And the answer printed out in 3.5 seconds:

428653
430251
428467
495217
483263
495673

real 0m3.474s
user 0m1.688s
sys 0m1.780s

The first time the script ran, it took 48 seconds.
The second time it took 5 seconds.
All further attempts were 3.5 seconds.

Totally and absolutely amazed!!

These directories are being updated by
cameras uploading a picture every second per camera.

Ezekiel

2012-07-13 20:51:21 UTC

LMAO!

Bwaaha..
As I said you are an unemployable nobody.
Here something something to try and duplicate and
post results with your windummy retard's osen
DFS chicken will now cluck and run away!!!!!
BEWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!
Linux checks 2.5 million files in 3.5 seconds
---------------------------------------------
Its just truly amazing.
The CPU is a mediocre Intel G840 with 8Gb of RAM.
The OS was Ubuntu 11.10.
Each file is about 30K
The script is saved in a file called check_camera_directory.sh
#!/bin/bash
ls -R ftp/cam1 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam2 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam3 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam4 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam5 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam6 -f | wc -l

More ignorant babbling from the wanna-be pretend engineer who is one of the
biggest morons in COLA.

For starters - the size of each file (30k) is irrelevant. Linux didn't check
any file, Linux didn't open or read any "file."

All your "ls" script does is read the directory contents which is stored
(depending on the filesystem) in linked-list/b-tree/etc. No actual "files"
are touched at all. All your script does is traverse a data structure in 3.5
seconds - it doesn't check any files at all you moron.

Post by 7
Its just truly amazing.

It's just truly amazing how stupid and ignorant you are. Whoever is paying
you $50k/year (<chuckle>) is certainly getting what they paid for. Not much.
--
I've done for example SQL optimization and the reason I could do it better
than the best high level experts can do was because I think in hex and bits
and byte movements. If you know the assembler in detail, you would know what
"select * from employees" would translate into assembler and how different
and yet similar that would be from "select name from employees"

Babbling idiot "7"
March 7, 2012
<qAN5r.607$***@newsfe03.ams2>

Big Steel

2012-07-13 21:02:29 UTC

Post by Ezekiel

LMAO!

More ignorant babbling from the wanna-be pretend engineer who is one of the
biggest morons in COLA.
For starters - the size of each file (30k) is irrelevant. Linux didn't check
any file, Linux didn't open or read any "file."
All your "ls" script does is read the directory contents which is stored
(depending on the filesystem) in linked-list/b-tree/etc. No actual "files"
are touched at all. All your script does is traverse a data structure in 3.5
seconds - it doesn't check any files at all you moron.

Post by 7
Its just truly amazing.

It's just truly amazing how stupid and ignorant you are. Whoever is paying
you $50k/year (<chuckle>) is certainly getting what they paid for. Not much.

7 is making $50k a year. Doing what? 7 is not worth $50k a year to be
doing anything as it waste too much time acting a fool in COLA. There
are several so called COLA professions that should have their salaries
revoked.

2012-07-13 21:35:09 UTC

Post by Ezekiel

Post by Big Steel
I don't see your point. I don't care what a client is using, as long
as they pay me for my expertise. I have always been on the bleeding
edge of
technology from everything on the mainframes back in the day, over
DEC, PDP a lot of different computer systems as a programmer and over
to client/server from COM, COM+ and now .NET.

LMAO!

More ignorant babbling from the wanna-be pretend engineer who is one of
the biggest morons in COLA.
For starters - the size of each file (30k) is irrelevant. Linux didn't
check any file, Linux didn't open or read any "file."
All your "ls" script does is read the directory contents which is stored
(depending on the filesystem) in linked-list/b-tree/etc. No actual "files"
are touched at all. All your script does is traverse a data structure in
3.5 seconds

And the answer printed out in 3.5 seconds:

428653
430251
428467
495217
483263
495673

real 0m3.474s
user 0m1.688s
sys 0m1.780s

No wonder you are an unemployable Burson-Marstelar employee and a troll,
restating how file systems work BECAUSE the troll doesn't understand
a what she restated in duplicated form.

Here something to try and duplicate and
post results with your windummy retard's osen
any time you are ready:

Ezekiel chicken will now cluck and run away!!!!!

BEWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAAA!!!!

Linux checks 2.5 million files in 3.5 seconds
---------------------------------------------

Its just truly amazing.

The CPU is a mediocre Intel G840 with 8Gb of RAM.
The OS was Ubuntu 11.10.

Each file is about 30K

The script is saved in a file called check_camera_directory.sh
and it contains this:

#!/bin/bash
ls -R ftp/cam1 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam2 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam3 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam4 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam5 -f | wc -l
ls -R ftp/cam6 -f | wc -l

To measure how long that script takes to run I did this:

time bash check_camera_directory.sh

And the answer printed out in 3.5 seconds:

428653
430251
428467
495217
483263
495673

real 0m3.474s
user 0m1.688s
sys 0m1.780s

The first time the script ran, it took 48 seconds.
The second time it took 5 seconds.
All further attempts were 3.5 seconds.

Totally and absolutely amazed!!

These directories are being updated by
cameras uploading a picture every second per camera.

Appile crap and windopws crap can't do any of this.

No wonder everyone is switching to Linux.

Foster

2012-07-14 03:34:43 UTC

LMAO!

Bwaaha..
As I said you are an unemployable nobody.

So you have no real response.

That is no surprise since you are a fraud.

So where is Ahlstrom?

Hiding under his wife's skirt I suspect.

Tom Shelton

2012-07-12 23:06:53 UTC

If you are doing enterprise apps using silverlight (or flex for that
matter) in light of the recent changes at ms. Wow!

Look man did you not see the word *contractor* in the sentence?

Post by Tom Shelton
Seriously, dude - Silverlight has a very short life span at
this
point.
It's on life support, it's being dumped as the main app
framework for
even wp. Using silverlight now, is like continuing to support windows
forms - it hasn't been in maintence mode since .net 2. Is ms even
working on Silverlight 6? I'm not saying it's going to be dead tomorrow,
there is still a few more years left (3 - 5, maybe) - but, not many
beyond that.

I don't care how many more years it has left. COM solutions had so
many years left when .NET hit the scene. Hows is that working out?

Pretty well actually. I hardly ever touch com anymore. Is it gone? no.
but, only idiots every thougth it would.

You are not out there in the trenches. .NET is COM interoperable, and
if it's not broke then why fix it?

That makes no sense? Of course .net is com interoperable. But, that
doesn't mean you have to actually get down and dirty with it.
Seriously,
I'm not sure what your point is here. I think your arguing for the sake
of it now.

Are you serious? It's at times you have to get down and dirty with
.NET and or COM.

I very rarely have to touch com - in fact, the first time I had to in
like 2 years was just last week. I had to implement the IMSAdminBase
interface so I could do some low level manipulation of IIS 6. Both,
the normal ADSI and WMI interfaces are broken for certain ssl related
activities :)

My point is that, in the .net world - com is for the most part hidden.
Sure, it's there when you need it - and you do occasionaly, but, it's
not something that is in your face all the time like it was in the bad
old days. It's been put in it's proper place - a supporting role.

Silverlight is turning becomming a legacy tech. You want to use it -
fine, but, it's already being phased out where I work - and flex as
well.

That's you and a single company, and one shoe doesn't fit all.

If you look at the company i work for as a whole, we are bigger than ms.

What does that mean? It means nothing as far as I am concerned. I
have worked in companies bigger than MS.

Post by Big Steel
I want to use it? I am going to get paid for using it no matter what?
If the client wants me to use it, then you can best believe I am going
to use it.

Any informed client is not going to use it for a new project. I'm not
even srue why you would want to. asp.net razor/mvc is a much nicer
solution anyway.

Any informed client is going to use it. What as I as a contractor
care about it? Pay me for my expertise, I don't care what a company
is using just pay me.

Fine, your a mercinary. I get it. But, again - an informed client is
not going to use linq-2-sql for new work. Sure, if they have stuff
that is arleady using it - but, I don't think anyone is going to decide
to use it today for a non-windows phone app :)

Post by Big Steel
IBM mainframes had so many years left once client/sever hit the scene.
How is that working out?

Post by Tom Shelton
WPF+MVVM is where you should be focusing for desktop.
Razor+Microsoft
MVC is where you should be looking for enterprise web apps.

I just came off of a WPF MVVM contract, and they are talking about WPF
dying in the WPF forms, and MVP is a viable solution on ASP.NET, WPF,
Windows and Silverlight.

? WPF is the core of the new metro interface on windows/windows phone.
Silverlight was based on a subset of wpf. For doing desktop work, WPF is
the solution - even on the legacy desktop. WPF isn't going
anywhere - at
least not for a while.

You do know you can use WPF for Web based solutions too, right?
The whole world is not running on smartphones not anytime soon. And I
suspect Windows 8 is going to be backwards compatible, allowing one to
turn stuff off like MS has done in the past.

Not even sure what your getting at. WPF works on the legacy destop as
well. And, as of the latest release, there is no way to turn off metro.
But, that's neither here nor there. The fact is that windows froms has
not been touched other than bug fixes in like 7 years :) Not saying i
don't use it - I do, for quick and dirty. But, I certainly wouldn't for
a new large scale project.

I don't see your point. I don't care what a client is using, as long
as they pay me for my expertise. I have always been on the bleeding
edge of technology from everything on the mainframes back in the day,
over DEC, PDP a lot of different computer systems as a programmer and
over to client/server from COM, COM+ and now .NET.

--
Tom Shelton

Big Steel

2012-07-13 00:17:10 UTC

On 7/12/2012 7:06 PM, Tom Shelton wrote:

<snipped>

Yes everything we have talked about WPF, MVVM. ASP.NET MVC, EF and blah
blah is good, but what companies are also paying for is a developer's
expertise in mocking and unit testing for code coverage. It's good to
have UT as an ability

Big Steel

2012-07-12 20:57:29 UTC

On 7/12/2012 4:27 PM, Tom Shelton wrote:

<snipped>

One other thing, they said Linq-2-SQL was going to die a couple of years
ago. It doesn't look like that happened.

When I see something die, I'll believe it.

Tom Shelton

2012-07-12 21:23:37 UTC

Post by Big Steel
<snipped>
One other thing, they said Linq-2-SQL was going to die a couple of
years ago. It doesn't look like that happened.
When I see something die, I'll believe it.

Where are you seeing linq-2-sql being used? Windows phone. That's
about it. Entity framework is it's replacement.

--
Tom Shelton

Big Steel

2012-07-12 21:39:36 UTC

Post by Big Steel
<snipped>
One other thing, they said Linq-2-SQL was going to die a couple of
years ago. It doesn't look like that happened.
When I see something die, I'll believe it.

Where are you seeing linq-2-sql being used? Windows phone. That's about
it. Entity framework is it's replacement.

You obviously are not a .NET contractor, and you are not in the field
as a contractor. Some IT departments in companies refuse to go to
ADO.NET EF or Nhibernate, and they are using Linq-2-SQL because it is
lightweight and fast, it allows Linq to be used, it promotes OOPs and
unit testing. It's faster than EF, which counts in N-tier multiuser
enterprise level solutions on the backend.

I believe the feed back is don't take Linq-2-SQL away.

<http://blogs.msdn.com/b/adonet/archive/2008/10/29/update-on-linq-to-sql-and-linq-to-entities-roadmap.aspx>

<copied>

We’re making significant investments in the Entity Framework such that
as of .NET 4.0 the Entity Framework will be our recommended data access
solution for LINQ to relational scenarios. We are listening to
customers regarding LINQ to SQL and will continue to evolve the product
based on feedback we receive from the community as well.

<end>

Tom Shelton

2012-07-12 22:07:21 UTC

Post by Big Steel
<snipped>
One other thing, they said Linq-2-SQL was going to die a couple of
years ago. It doesn't look like that happened.
When I see something die, I'll believe it.

Where are you seeing linq-2-sql being used? Windows phone. That's about
it. Entity framework is it's replacement.

You obviously are not a .NET contractor,

I do not contract much, but do on occasion. But, I associate with a
lot of devs who are contractors - and I dont' know anyone of them that
would recommend linq-2-sql over ef. About, the only place I see it
actively used is in Windows Phone. Because of the built in sql ce
support.

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about maintenance - obviously, there
is stuff still using it that was written a few years ago. But, there
is no way I would start a new project using linq-2-sql right no.

Post by Big Steel
and you are not in the
field as a contractor. Some IT departments in companies refuse to go
to ADO.NET EF or Nhibernate,

? ADO.NET is the backign of linq-2-sql. So....

Post by Big Steel
and they are using Linq-2-SQL because
it is lightweight and fast, it allows Linq to be used, it promotes
OOPs and unit testing.

Not sure why you would think that is any different from EF?

Post by Big Steel
It's faster than EF, which counts in N-tier
multiuser enterprise level solutions on the backend.

And also specific to sql server... Problem for a lot of large
enterprises... Ever heard of oracle? db2? etc, etc.

Post by Big Steel
I believe the feed back is don't take Linq-2-SQL away.
<http://blogs.msdn.com/b/adonet/archive/2008/10/29/update-on-linq-to-sql-and-linq-to-entities-roadmap.aspx>
<copied>
We’re making significant investments in the Entity Framework such
that as of .NET 4.0 the Entity Framework will be our recommended data
access solution for LINQ to relational scenarios. We are listening
to customers regarding LINQ to SQL and will continue to evolve the
product based on feedback we receive from the community as well.
<end>

An article from 2008? Really?

There is no doubt that linq-2-sql was nice - for sql server, and small
to medium apps. But, many enterprise apps have to be db agnostic, and
have to interact with many different datasources.

--
Tom Shelton

Big Steel

2012-07-12 22:28:48 UTC

Post by Big Steel
<snipped>
One other thing, they said Linq-2-SQL was going to die a couple of
years ago. It doesn't look like that happened.
When I see something die, I'll believe it.

Where are you seeing linq-2-sql being used? Windows phone. That's about
it. Entity framework is it's replacement.

You obviously are not a .NET contractor,

Let's get something straight, contractors don't dictate anything. I
started out on nHibernate, and the second ORM I saw was ADO.NET EF. All
this before I saw Linq-2-SQL.

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about maintenance - obviously, there
is stuff still using it that was written a few years ago. But, there is
no way I would start a new project using linq-2-sql right no.

Well if you are a contractor, you are going to do what the client tells
you to do. Some clients are doing new development and EF, Linq-2-SQL and
nHibernate are nowhere to be found.

Post by Big Steel
and you are not in the field as a contractor. Some IT departments in
companies refuse to go to ADO.NET EF or Nhibernate,

? ADO.NET is the backign of linq-2-sql. So....

So? And EF is not on the backend or no ORM period, and it's straight-up
ADO.NET SQL Command objects, datareader, and T-SQL in sprocs and custom
objects/DTO(s). So?

Post by Big Steel
and they are using Linq-2-SQL because it is lightweight and fast, it
allows Linq to be used, it promotes OOPs and unit testing.

Not sure why you would think that is any different from EF?

EF can be dead slow if you don't know what you are doing. I myself know
what I am doing with EF, as I have had to make it do things faster, But
that requires one to be in the trenches and facing that bullet.

I am not going to knock anyone or any company about using Linq-2-SQL if
that what is decided by them as to what they want to do.

Post by Big Steel
It's faster than EF, which counts in N-tier multiuser enterprise level
solutions on the backend.

And also specific to sql server... Problem for a lot of large
enterprises... Ever heard of oracle? db2? etc, etc.

I have worked with oracle and db2 with nHibernate and without any orm. :)

Post by Big Steel
I believe the feed back is don't take Linq-2-SQL away.
<http://blogs.msdn.com/b/adonet/archive/2008/10/29/update-on-linq-to-sql-and-linq-to-entities-roadmap.aspx>
<copied>
We’re making significant investments in the Entity Framework such that
as of .NET 4.0 the Entity Framework will be our recommended data
access solution for LINQ to relational scenarios. We are listening to
customers regarding LINQ to SQL and will continue to evolve the
product based on feedback we receive from the community as well.
<end>

An article from 2008? Really?

Really? Where did Linq-2-SQL go? It's dead in your face, right, as a
viable solution? It has not gone away and it's being used in enterprise
level solutions.

There is no doubt that linq-2-sql was nice - for sql server, and small
to medium apps. But, many enterprise apps have to be db agnostic, and
have to interact with many different datasources.

I bet Linq-2-SQL is in VS2012. :)

Tom Shelton

2012-07-12 22:57:56 UTC

Post by Big Steel
<snipped>
One other thing, they said Linq-2-SQL was going to die a couple of
years ago. It doesn't look like that happened.
When I see something die, I'll believe it.

Where are you seeing linq-2-sql being used? Windows phone. That's about
it. Entity framework is it's replacement.

You obviously are not a .NET contractor,

Let's get something straight, contractors don't dictate anything. I
started out on nHibernate, and the second ORM I saw was ADO.NET EF.
All this before I saw Linq-2-SQL.

I did not say that contractors dictate anything - but, in every
situation I've been in where it was new work, the client looked for
recomendations. And almost always accepted them as well.

Well if you are a contractor, you are going to do what the client
tells you to do. Some clients are doing new development and EF,
Linq-2-SQL and nHibernate are nowhere to be found.

Post by Big Steel
and you are not in the field as a contractor. Some IT departments in
companies refuse to go to ADO.NET EF or Nhibernate,

? ADO.NET is the backign of linq-2-sql. So....

So? And EF is not on the backend or no ORM period, and it's
straight-up ADO.NET SQL Command objects, datareader, and T-SQL in
sprocs and custom objects/DTO(s). So?

I was trying to figre out how people are refusing to use ado.net. If
your using .net, what other option would you use? All, orm's are using
ado.net on the backend.

Post by Big Steel
and they are using Linq-2-SQL because it is lightweight and fast, it
allows Linq to be used, it promotes OOPs and unit testing.

Not sure why you would think that is any different from EF?

EF can be dead slow if you don't know what you are doing.

So can linq-2-sql. Certain kinds of operations can generate exteremly
slow queries. Requiring the developer to "take control" of the sql.
This is no different in ef, or nhibernate for that matter. Sometimes,
you have to take control no matter what your doing...

Post by Big Steel
I myself
know what I am doing with EF, as I have had to make it do things
faster, But that requires one to be in the trenches and facing that
bullet.
I am not going to knock anyone or any company about using Linq-2-SQL
if that what is decided by them as to what they want to do.

Post by Big Steel
It's faster than EF, which counts in N-tier multiuser enterprise level
solutions on the backend.

And also specific to sql server... Problem for a lot of large
enterprises... Ever heard of oracle? db2? etc, etc.

I have worked with oracle and db2 with nHibernate and without any orm. :)

Me too. I wrote my own orm, which I still use day to day. Before EF
or linq-2-sql.

Post by Big Steel
I believe the feed back is don't take Linq-2-SQL away.
<http://blogs.msdn.com/b/adonet/archive/2008/10/29/update-on-linq-to-sql-and-linq-to-entities-roadmap.aspx>
<copied>
We’re making significant investments in the Entity Framework such that
as of .NET 4.0 the Entity Framework will be our recommended data
access solution for LINQ to relational scenarios. We are listening to
customers regarding LINQ to SQL and will continue to evolve the
product based on feedback we receive from the community as well.
<end>

An article from 2008? Really?

Really? Where did Linq-2-SQL go? It's dead in your face, right, as a
viable solution? It has not gone away and it's being used in
enterprise level solutions.

There is no doubt that linq-2-sql was nice - for sql server, and small
to medium apps. But, many enterprise apps have to be db agnostic, and
have to interact with many different datasources.

I bet Linq-2-SQL is in VS2012. :)

Probably. So, will windows forms. MS doesn't just remove stuff. They
will just leave it in maintenance mode for a while.

--
Tom Shelton

Big Steel

2012-07-12 23:51:34 UTC

Post by Big Steel
<snipped>
One other thing, they said Linq-2-SQL was going to die a couple of
years ago. It doesn't look like that happened.
When I see something die, I'll believe it.

Where are you seeing linq-2-sql being used? Windows phone. That's about
it. Entity framework is it's replacement.

You obviously are not a .NET contractor,

Let's get something straight, contractors don't dictate anything. I
started out on nHibernate, and the second ORM I saw was ADO.NET EF.
All this before I saw Linq-2-SQL.

I did not say that contractors dictate anything - but, in every
situation I've been in where it was new work, the client looked for
recomendations. And almost always accepted them as well.

And some times you come into a situation as a contractor where things
have already been decided and you leave it alone and roll with it.

Well if you are a contractor, you are going to do what the client
tells you to do. Some clients are doing new development and EF,
Linq-2-SQL and nHibernate are nowhere to be found.

Post by Big Steel
and you are not in the field as a contractor. Some IT departments in
companies refuse to go to ADO.NET EF or Nhibernate,

? ADO.NET is the backign of linq-2-sql. So....

So? And EF is not on the backend or no ORM period, and it's
straight-up ADO.NET SQL Command objects, datareader, and T-SQL in
sprocs and custom objects/DTO(s). So?

I was trying to figre out how people are refusing to use ado.net. If
your using .net, what other option would you use? All, orm's are using
ado.net on the backend.

And some do not use an ORM whether the ORM is using ADO.NET or the
developer decides to use ADO.NET straight-up without an ORM, because
they are looking for speed. Object materialization and other factors
like T-SQL generation not being optimal slows things down when using an ORM.

Post by Big Steel
and they are using Linq-2-SQL because it is lightweight and fast, it
allows Linq to be used, it promotes OOPs and unit testing.

Not sure why you would think that is any different from EF?

EF can be dead slow if you don't know what you are doing.

So can linq-2-sql. Certain kinds of operations can generate exteremly
slow queries. Requiring the developer to "take control" of the sql. This
is no different in ef, or nhibernate for that matter. Sometimes, you
have to take control no matter what your doing...

Post by Big Steel
I myself know what I am doing with EF, as I have had to make it do
things faster, But that requires one to be in the trenches and facing
that bullet.
I am not going to knock anyone or any company about using Linq-2-SQL
if that what is decided by them as to what they want to do.

Post by Big Steel
It's faster than EF, which counts in N-tier multiuser enterprise level
solutions on the backend.

And also specific to sql server... Problem for a lot of large
enterprises... Ever heard of oracle? db2? etc, etc.

I have worked with oracle and db2 with nHibernate and without any orm. :)

Me too. I wrote my own orm, which I still use day to day. Before EF or
linq-2-sql.

Post by Big Steel
I believe the feed back is don't take Linq-2-SQL away.
<http://blogs.msdn.com/b/adonet/archive/2008/10/29/update-on-linq-to-sql-and-linq-to-entities-roadmap.aspx>
<copied>
We’re making significant investments in the Entity Framework such that
as of .NET 4.0 the Entity Framework will be our recommended data
access solution for LINQ to relational scenarios. We are listening to
customers regarding LINQ to SQL and will continue to evolve the
product based on feedback we receive from the community as well.
<end>

An article from 2008? Really?

Really? Where did Linq-2-SQL go? It's dead in your face, right, as a
viable solution? It has not gone away and it's being used in
enterprise level solutions.

There is no doubt that linq-2-sql was nice - for sql server, and small
to medium apps. But, many enterprise apps have to be db agnostic, and
have to interact with many different datasources.

I bet Linq-2-SQL is in VS2012. :)

Probably. So, will windows forms. MS doesn't just remove stuff. They
will just leave it in maintenance mode for a while.

Big Steel

2012-07-12 21:43:34 UTC

On 7/12/2012 5:23 PM, Tom Shelton wrote:

<snipped>

Here is a nice little tool you may not be aware of....

http://www.linqpad.net/

Nobody

2012-07-13 05:46:22 UTC

"This sample application is the result of my initiative to learn
Silverlight and WCF RIA Services. With my background of using WPF and
MVVM for the past several years, I found that there is a lack of sample
LOB applications that can combine the latest Silverlight enhancements
with MVVM. This three part article series is my effort at creating such
a sample. The choice of an issue tracking application comes from David
Poll's PDC09 talk, and the design architecture is from Shawn
Wildermuth's blog posts."

How does this back your assertions? Did you even bother to read what
your link points to?

Big Steel

2012-07-13 11:17:24 UTC

On 7/13/2012 1:46 AM, Nobody wrote:

<snipped>

LOL!

You are a clown that has never developed an enterprise level .NET
business solution in your worthless life. And you couldn't program your
way out of a paper sack.

You are not a programmer. You are just some worthless clown with
tremendous and worthless lip service on eberything. You don't know
anything about MVVM, WCF RIA Services, what WPF is or any of the .NET
technologies are about.

No one has to explain anything to some clown like you that can't piss in
a boot straight.

You are a totally out of control clown with your BS and your nose wide
open on everything you have no business being in period.

WTF? You are truly the new clown on the COLA block.

Peter Köhlmann

2012-07-13 11:38:28 UTC

Post by Big Steel
<snipped>
LOL!
You are a clown that has never developed an enterprise level .NET
business solution in your worthless life. And you couldn't program your
way out of a paper sack.
You are not a programmer. You are just some worthless clown with
tremendous and worthless lip service on eberything. You don't know
anything about MVVM, WCF RIA Services, what WPF is or any of the .NET
technologies are about.
No one has to explain anything to some clown like you that can't piss in
a boot straight.
You are a totally out of control clown with your BS and your nose wide
open on everything you have no business being in period.
WTF? You are truly the new clown on the COLA block.

Do you actually think that you are now regarded as someone having any IQ
worth mentioning?

You have demonstrated time and again that you are by far the dumbest poster
ever to post to usenet.
And just because you were able to copy/paste some words you don't have any
idea at all about what they coulkd possibly mean does not make you a
"programmer". Or a "person".
You are and you stay some incredibly stupid dipshit, Big Stool

Big Steel

2012-07-13 12:11:18 UTC

Post by Peter KÃ¶hlmann

Do you actually think that you are now regarded as someone having any IQ
worth mentioning?

I don't care what someone like you thinks Köhlmann. You are just a COLA
bafoon that doesn't amount to anything.

Post by Peter KÃ¶hlmann
You have demonstrated time and again that you are by far the dumbest poster
ever to post to usenet.

You have demonstrated far worst than that as far as I am concerned. You
play yourself to be the fool that you are time and time again. It's like
a scratched record for you. And as far as I am concerned, you are
nothing but some Linux using clown that thinks that your shit doesn't
stink. Have you smelled yourself lately? You stink to high heaven.

Post by Peter KÃ¶hlmann
And just because you were able to copy/paste some words you don't have any
idea at all about what they coulkd possibly mean does not make you a
"programmer". Or a "person".

Fool I get paid for my .NET expertise. You claim to be this, that and
the other when it comes to programming. But when you are put to the
test, you wind-up disappearing time and time again, particularly
concerning MS and .NET, which you have a lot of lip service about, and
you don't know jack.
.

Post by Peter KÃ¶hlmann
You are and you stay some incredibly stupid dipshit, Big Stool

KöhlmannTard you don't know a damn thing about .NET. You don't know. I
have caught you in your lies time and time again. You are the dumbest
poster I have ever seen, and you think you are the greatest thing since
sliced toast. All you are is sourer milk-toast.

Goblin

2012-07-13 12:26:50 UTC

Ah... Big Steel... Always a pleasure and never a chore. I have to
admit, out of all the Microsoft Advocates, you are one I like reading
the most. You are like the Usenet version of Cartman; loud, offensive
and always off target.

Post by Big Steel
Fool I get paid for my .NET expertise.

Really? I hope your "l337" skills are better than your spelling and
grammar. ;)

I'm impressed with your movie tributes and particularly liked your
tribute to Biff from Back to the Future...

Post by Big Steel
and you think you are the greatest thing since sliced toast.

It's bread Big Steal, bread. Toast is usually sliced, its difficult to
fit a whole loaf into a toaster without aid of a hammer...

Let me guess the response from you.... "snipped not read"? or what about
"you mean nothing to me?"

Lets see shall we.

Best of British.
--
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Big Steel

2012-07-13 12:33:12 UTC

Ah... Big Steel... Always a pleasure and never a chore. I have to admit,
out of all the Microsoft Advocates, you are one I like reading the most.
You are like the Usenet version of Cartman; loud, offensive and always
off target.

Fool my point was about Silverlight is used for enterprise level
Intranet applications. It is more than some clown like you can
comprehend or ever know.

Lets see shall we.
Best of British.

You ram Britain up your ass. :)

Goblin

2012-07-13 12:34:51 UTC

Fool? Fool? after your "bottom" inspired posts. I wasn't even referring
to your tot about .net itself, merely making some observations about
your fixation on bottoms.

Post by Big Steel
You ram Britain up your ass.

Says it all really.
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Big Steel

2012-07-13 12:37:03 UTC

On 7/13/2012 8:34 AM, Goblin wrote:

<snipped>

You always manage to have your nose open and dripping like Niagara
Falls. You are the best nose dripping clown I have ever seen. :)

William Poaster

2012-07-13 12:55:12 UTC

Post by Goblin
Fool? Fool? after your "bottom" inspired posts. I wasn't even referring
to your tot about .net itself, merely making some observations about
your fixation on bottoms.

Post by Big Steel
You ram Britain up your ass.

Says it all really.

Well that's where Duh-Inane Asshole is, at the bottom of the pile.
HTH :-)
--
Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft.
That will just be a
completely unintentional side effect. -- Linus Torvalds (2003-09-28)

Every time Windows had a rebirth I would get hold of it
and buy a new machine to run it on believing that they (M$)
must now have got things right and finally created an operating
environment that could excite, impress and enthral me.
But each time their system got more ham-fisted, more insulting
and more indifferent to the pleasures and interests of the **consumer**.
-- Stephen Fry - December 2008 --

Windows is like a hooker; they're both easy,
and using either puts you at risk of viruses.
-- Kelsey Bjarnason --
comp.os.linux.advocacy

Micro$oft, the company that makes spreading malware easy.

Big Steel

2012-07-13 12:59:25 UTC

Post by William Poaster

Post by Goblin
Fool? Fool? after your "bottom" inspired posts. I wasn't even referring
to your tot about .net itself, merely making some observations about
your fixation on bottoms.

Post by Big Steel
You ram Britain up your ass.

Says it all really.

Well that's where Duh-Inane Asshole is, at the bottom of the pile.
HTH :-)

He said something not much like Goblin. Goblin can't talk about .NET
technology and neither can Kholdog.

chrisv

2012-07-13 13:30:39 UTC

Post by Big Steel
You ram Britain up your ass.

Says it all really.

Hehe. Yes it does.

"Ezekiel" likes him, though.

--
"Introducing any new product costs Dell both time and money." -
trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel", defending a $200 price-premium to get
FreeDOS instead of Windows!

Big Steel

2012-07-13 13:35:33 UTC

Post by Big Steel
You ram Britain up your ass.

Says it all really.

Hehe. Yes it does.
"Ezekiel" likes him, though.

I don't like the British clown nor do I respect Babbles Goblin. chrisv
can ram Goblin up his ass while he is at it. :)

Goblin

2012-07-13 13:40:43 UTC

Post by Big Steel
You ram Britain up your ass.

Says it all really.

Hehe. Yes it does.
"Ezekiel" likes him, though.

I don't like the British clown nor do I respect Babbles Goblin. chrisv
can ram Goblin up his ass while he is at it. :)

Wow... Your mastery of bottom retorts is second to none - must be one of
the skills you need as part of a successful .net career....
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Big Steel

2012-07-13 13:47:49 UTC

On 7/13/2012 9:40 AM, Lip-Service will travel Goblin wrote:

<snipped>

Move along Goblin you are nothing but a runny nose. :)

DFS

2012-07-13 15:08:09 UTC

Post by Big Steel
You ram Britain up your ass.

Says it all really.

Hehe. Yes it does.
"Ezekiel" likes him, though.

I don't like the British clown nor do I respect Babbles Goblin. chrisv
can ram Goblin up his ass while he is at it. :)

Wow... Your mastery of bottom retorts is second to none - must be one of
the skills you need as part of a successful .net career....

Would love to hear about your "career"... can you actually get paid for
being a metrosexual suckup to Roy Spamowitz?

Foster

2012-07-14 03:29:09 UTC

Post by DFS

Post by Big Steel
You ram Britain up your ass.

Says it all really.

Hehe. Yes it does.
"Ezekiel" likes him, though.

I don't like the British clown nor do I respect Babbles Goblin. chrisv
can ram Goblin up his ass while he is at it. :)

Wow... Your mastery of bottom retorts is second to none - must be one of
the skills you need as part of a successful .net career....

Would love to hear about your "career"... can you actually get paid for
being a metrosexual suckup to Roy Spamowitz?

Goblin has turned that into a career......

FWIW Goblin plays the good cop to Spamowitz's bad cop.

What Goblin hasn't figured out yet is Spamowitz gets all the glory
and he gets laughed at.
Sooner or later (most likely later because he is not the brightest)
Goblin will figure this out.

Chris Ahlstrom

2012-07-13 15:01:05 UTC

Post by Goblin
Ah... Big Steel... Always a pleasure and never a chore. I have to
admit, out of all the Microsoft Advocates, you are one I like reading
the most. You are like the Usenet version of Cartman; loud, offensive
and always off target.

LOL
--
THE SINGLE MOST FUNNY DRUNKEN INSANE RANT "HADRON" HAS HITHERTO POSTED
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A recent thread "Works for me" has amazed me. A group of COLA
"contributors" have decided that it IS ok to download source, unarchive
it configure it and compile it under a su (as root) shell. This is
amazing since common sense and best practice in ALL *nix development
arenas I have been have mandated that the only phase ones uses as root
is the install itself.
Of course even thinking about it slightly makes this obvious. Accessing
ANY program as root which accesses the web is daft. Unarchiving as root
means one typo could see that archive wipe your machine. One problem in
the make file could see the file system hosed or something rooted. One
doesnt have to be a genius to see this.
However group luminaries have different opinions. And have laughed at my
reasonings. Some even suggesting I dont know what I'm talking about.
Chris Ahlstrom and Gregory Sheaman (yes he of a "good UI is a waste of a
programmers time" fame) and to a lesser extent TomB, have dictated that
I dont know what I'm talking about and its perfectly ok to do all of
this and more in an su shell. Indeed, why bother with sudo at all eh?
So what happens when they make a mistake? Amazingly "thats ok" as they
have backups. Yes folks. They have "backups". So lets fuck up the system
but thats ok - they have backups. Clearly not admins on multiuser
servers then. Not that anyone thought them competent enough in the first
place.
Those not convinced need to look up sudo. Not only that they need to
look up debian sudo and see how the sudoers file needs to be edited.
So COLA : its ok.
Rest of world : Its not ok and is downright foolish.
Some links follow to highlight how clueless Ahlstrom most of all is
(he's there laughing and patting people on the back about all the
crazzeeeee things he does as root). Also keep in mind how that thread
started - I was highlighting how silly it was to do things as root for a
nOOb. It soon degenerated thanks to COLA dicks as to how it was
perfectly ok to do it ALL as root. I am, frankly, astonished as to how
little these guys seem to understand about the Linux security access
methods and how they should be used to maintain a systems
integrity. There willingness to risk compromising servers (and, as a
result anyone that logs into them) is unnerving to say the least.
The Links:
https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?id=19654
,----
| Doing anything as root without a DAMN good reason is a very stupid
| idea
`----
,----
| The reason I don't want to compile as root is that frankly I don't trust the code, and I don't really feel like browsing every makefile and every source file to make sure that no harm will be done to my system. Compiling as root has never been considered a safe practice.
| Also, it's completely redundant because the system uses fakeroot. You
| don't need root privs.
`----
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/compiling-as-root-69452/
,----
| well... it's all about security
| , I'm not sure, but in Linux philosophy, you should NEVER do ANYTHING at
| root, except things you are FORCED to do. So, since you can "configure"
| and "make" at user but need to be root to "make install" you should only
| be root to do make install. I suppose this way, you can avoid bad code,
| evil configure script or things like this.
`----
http://andrey.mikhalchuk.com/2009/05/06/build-dependency-please-do-not-compile-as-root-in-kamikaze-809.html
,----
| Good news is OpenWRT 8.09 got recently released. Bad news is that you
| can’t compile it as root. Yes, compiling as root is bad,
`----
http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071009033127AAuaV9Z
,----
| As a rule of thumb, if it doesn't /have/ to be done as root, then don't
| do it as root. If you aren't running as root then it (intentionally, or
| by accident, or because you made a typo, etc) can't destroy your system
| or install a rootkit.
`----
To summarise : You guys should be ashamed of yourself saying its
ok. This is almost as embarrassing for Ahlstrom as him maintaining Peter
was right when he thought he could access a field of a struct in C from
a NULL pointer after boasting about how he crafts world class C code.
-- "Hadron" <h598h8$2u9$***@news.eternal-september.org>

Big Steel

2012-07-13 15:10:20 UTC

On 7/13/2012 11:01 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

<snipped>

None of them can talk .NET. They are all ignorant clowns with babble
they know nothing about. However, smoke, mirrors and lies are the
cornerstone of COLA.

chrisv

2012-07-13 16:13:12 UTC

Hehe. Ohmygosh, that is funny reading. I hope for his sake that he
was drunk, while posting that. Otherwise... wow.

--
"Except I am not lying. As you know all too well." - "Hadron",
piling lie on top of lie

Big Steel

2012-07-13 20:10:07 UTC

Hehe. Ohmygosh, that is funny reading. I hope for his sake that he
was drunk, while posting that. Otherwise... wow.

He must have taken a non anger pill or something. Like Goblin, he has no
technical abilities concerning anything. The main COLA characters in the
NG are just kiss-ass worthless.

Nobody

2012-07-14 16:20:37 UTC

Hehe. Ohmygosh, that is funny reading. I hope for his sake that he
was drunk, while posting that. Otherwise... wow.

He must have taken a non anger pill or something. Like Goblin, he has no
technical abilities concerning anything. The main COLA characters in the
NG are just kiss-ass worthless.

So you probably don't want to participate in this worthless group
anymore. Time for you to move on. I suggest alt.angst for your new home.

Big Steel

2012-07-14 18:44:49 UTC

On 7/14/2012 12:20 PM, Nobody wrote:

<snipped>

You are still sniffling? Go fuck yourself with a brick and stay out of
my sight.

William Poaster

2012-07-13 22:14:09 UTC

Hehe. Ohmygosh, that is funny reading. I hope for his sake that he
was drunk, while posting that. Otherwise... wow.

Yeah, I hadn't seen that before & thought it was most amusing too!
I doubt the ranting idiot was drunk, but just the usual cockamamie
diatribe from the anti-linux fuckhead.

--
M$ Windows: from the guys who brought you EDLIN.

Micro$oft, the company that makes spreading malware easy.

William Poaster

2012-07-13 12:23:04 UTC

Post by Peter KÃ¶hlmann
Do you actually think that you are now regarded as someone having any IQ
worth mentioning?
You have demonstrated time and again that you are by far the dumbest poster
ever to post to usenet.
And just because you were able to copy/paste some words you don't have any
idea at all about what they coulkd possibly mean does not make you a
"programmer". Or a "person".
You are and you stay some incredibly stupid dipshit, Big Stool

+1
--
Microsoft Windows - Is it going to work today?

Really, I'm not out to destroy Microsoft.
That will just be a completely unintentional side effect.
-- Linus Torvalds (2003-09-28)

Every time Windows had a rebirth I would get hold of it
and buy a new machine to run it on believing that they (M$)
must now have got things right and finally created an operating
environment that could excite, impress and enthral me.
But each time their system got more ham-fisted, more insulting
and more indifferent to the pleasures and interests of the **consumer**.
-- Stephen Fry - December 2008 --

Windows is like a hooker; they're both easy,
and using either puts you at risk of viruses.
-- Kelsey Bjarnason --
comp.os.linux.advocacy

Micro$oft, the company that makes spreading malware easy.

Big Steel

2012-07-13 12:48:38 UTC

On 7/13/2012 8:23 AM, William Poaster wrote:

<snipped the butt kiss>

Dumbass Poaster is in a league all to himself. He's got nothing to say
as always.

Big Steel

2012-07-13 12:30:00 UTC

On 7/13/2012 7:38 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

<snipped>

When Tom and I were communicating about various .NET technologies, where
was your dumbass? Where was Nobody's dumbass? Your dumbasses were on the
side-lines. You are a fool Köhlmann and so is your new butt-buddy
Nobody, and you stayed in your fool's place where you belonged.

Goblin

2012-07-13 12:32:22 UTC

Post by Big Steel
When Tom and I were communicating about various .NET technologies, where
was your dumbass?

Maybe he was reading your posts direct from the source you copy and
paste from?

I notice you seem to like references to bottoms in your recent rant.....

Live and let live though....Who cares...

Big Steel, you're a treat as always.
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Big Steel

2012-07-13 12:34:21 UTC

Post by Big Steel
When Tom and I were communicating about various .NET technologies, where
was your dumbass?

Ram Britain up your ass... You might want to try Europe too.

Clogwog

2012-07-13 15:45:34 UTC

Post by Big Steel
When Tom and I were communicating about various .NET technologies, where
was your dumbass?

Ram Britain up your ass... You might want to try Europe too.

I have to protest, the Dutch are pretty smart, since we bought Manhattan for
$24,= . ;-)
Too bad the fscking Britt's stole it from us. ;-(

Big Steel

2012-07-13 16:04:13 UTC

Post by Big Steel
When Tom and I were communicating about various .NET technologies, where
was your dumbass?

Ram Britain up your ass... You might want to try Europe too.

I have to protest, the Dutch are pretty smart, since we bought Manhattan
for $24,= . ;-)
Too bad the fscking Britt's stole it from us. ;-(

The arrogant ass Brits they can't even hold on to their on country as
the immigrants are taking it for the abuse the Brits have done to them
over the centuries.

Foster

2012-07-14 03:30:19 UTC

Post by Big Steel
When Tom and I were communicating about various .NET technologies, where
was your dumbass?

Ram Britain up your ass... You might want to try Europe too.

I have to protest, the Dutch are pretty smart, since we bought Manhattan
for $24,= . ;-)
Too bad the fscking Britt's stole it from us. ;-(

The arrogant ass Brits they can't even hold on to their on country as
the immigrants are taking it for the abuse the Brits have done to them
over the centuries.

I hope Goblin likes wearing a diaper on his head because that is
where the country is headed.

Big Steel

2012-07-14 04:31:23 UTC

Post by Big Steel
When Tom and I were communicating about various .NET technologies, where
was your dumbass?

Ram Britain up your ass... You might want to try Europe too.

I have to protest, the Dutch are pretty smart, since we bought Manhattan
for $24,= . ;-)
Too bad the fscking Britt's stole it from us. ;-(

The arrogant ass Brits they can't even hold on to their on country as
the immigrants are taking it for the abuse the Brits have done to them
over the centuries.

I hope Goblin likes wearing a diaper on his head because that is
where the country is headed.

Have you ever seen the tv show Parking Wars about the parking
enforcement workers giving out parking tickets for parking violations?
It's really funny as the ones committing the violations have all kind of
executes. I have been here watching it for the last couple of hours

The ones that get their vehicle booted and towed and they know what the
deal is when they get caught are really ridiculous. It's kind of
ridiculous to get 10 to 20 tickets and other fines adding up to
$1,000(s), and you have to pay it before you can get the vehicle out of
impound. Why they just don't pay the tickets knowing what is going to
happen if they are caught is a mystery. $10 to $20 tickets become
$1,000 or more.

The parking enforcement people don't play with on-board computer system
scanning the license plates looking for heavy violators. If they
lock-in, one's vehicle is booted, towed and impounded right in their
face no matter where vehicle is at. :)

I guess you dont want to live in Philly or Detroit, own a car and have
parking tickets against it, because parking enforcement is death on it. :)

Foster

2012-07-14 14:01:17 UTC

Post by Big Steel
When Tom and I were communicating about various .NET technologies, where
was your dumbass?

Ram Britain up your ass... You might want to try Europe too.

I have to protest, the Dutch are pretty smart, since we bought Manhattan
for $24,= . ;-)
Too bad the fscking Britt's stole it from us. ;-(

The arrogant ass Brits they can't even hold on to their on country as
the immigrants are taking it for the abuse the Brits have done to them
over the centuries.

I hope Goblin likes wearing a diaper on his head because that is
where the country is headed.

Yea. That show is a riot !
I feel sorry for the parking bureau workers having to deal with
liars, idiots and morons all day long.

The burn out rate must be astronomical.

Post by Big Steel
The ones that get their vehicle booted and towed and they know what the
deal is when they get caught are really ridiculous. It's kind of
ridiculous to get 10 to 20 tickets and other fines adding up to
$1,000(s), and you have to pay it before you can get the vehicle out of
impound. Why they just don't pay the tickets knowing what is going to
happen if they are caught is a mystery. $10 to $20 tickets become
$1,000 or more.

These people are idiots.
They think they won't get caught, but they do.

I saw one show where a guy put a different set of plates on his car,
not the ones that belonged with the car, and since the car they came
from had tickets *his* car got booted.

Talk about a moron!

Post by Big Steel
The parking enforcement people don't play with on-board computer system
scanning the license plates looking for heavy violators. If they
lock-in, one's vehicle is booted, towed and impounded right in their
face no matter where vehicle is at. :)

Yep.

Very efficient system.

Post by Big Steel
I guess you dont want to live in Philly or Detroit, own a car and have
parking tickets against it, because parking enforcement is death on it. :)

Philly and Detroit are two of the worst places on the planet.
I've been to both.
Philly is a little better than Detroit which is a complete zoo.

Big Steel

2012-07-14 18:39:26 UTC

Post by Big Steel
When Tom and I were communicating about various .NET technologies, where
was your dumbass?

Ram Britain up your ass... You might want to try Europe too.

I have to protest, the Dutch are pretty smart, since we bought Manhattan
for $24,= . ;-)
Too bad the fscking Britt's stole it from us. ;-(

The arrogant ass Brits they can't even hold on to their on country as
the immigrants are taking it for the abuse the Brits have done to them
over the centuries.

I hope Goblin likes wearing a diaper on his head because that is
where the country is headed.

Yea. That show is a riot !
I feel sorry for the parking bureau workers having to deal with
liars, idiots and morons all day long.
The burn out rate must be astronomical.

These people are idiots.
They think they won't get caught, but they do.
I saw one show where a guy put a different set of plates on his car,
not the ones that belonged with the car, and since the car they came
from had tickets *his* car got booted.
Talk about a moron!

Yep.
Very efficient system.

Post by Big Steel
I guess you dont want to live in Philly or Detroit, own a car and have
parking tickets against it, because parking enforcement is death on it. :)

Philly and Detroit are two of the worst places on the planet.
I've been to both.
Philly is a little better than Detroit which is a complete zoo.

Yep that show is hilarious. One lady parking enforcement person was
giving out a ticket about parking in front of a firer hydrant. The guy
got mad and took-off. She was saying "Even a dog knows what a firer
hydran is" and I had a good laugh! :)

Foster

2012-07-14 18:49:01 UTC

Post by Big Steel
Yep that show is hilarious. One lady parking enforcement person was
giving out a ticket about parking in front of a firer hydrant. The guy
got mad and took-off. She was saying "Even a dog knows what a firer
hydran is" and I had a good laugh! :)

lol !
That's a pretty good comeback !

Big Steel

2012-07-14 22:29:50 UTC

Post by Foster

lol !
That's a pretty good comeback !

Oh, I forgot to tell you I have this nice little program called "Call
Control" for the Droid to block phone calls and send calls directly to
voice mail. I have had a couple of lady friends blowing up my phone with
calls lately. :) I just don't want to be bothered at the moment.

One of them called my phone like 10 times in a row, and has been calling
over the last few days. I was sitting there looking at this. :)

Another one has been using different phone numbers trying to get me to
answer. :)

It's not like Contacts on Droid can't do it, but Call Control blocks
text messages, 800 numbers, private, unknown numbers and etc etc (the
pro version). It cost like a $1.99 or something.

I have gotten no phone calls today from them, and I think that may be
they are figuring out that I don't want to play and give it a rest for a
little bit. :)

Peter Köhlmann

2012-07-14 22:56:31 UTC

Post by Foster

lol !
That's a pretty good comeback !

Oh, I forgot to tell you I have this nice little program called "Call
Control" for the Droid to block phone calls and send calls directly to
voice mail. I have had a couple of lady friends blowing up my phone with
calls lately. :) I just don't want to be bothered at the moment.
One of them called my phone like 10 times in a row, and has been calling
over the last few days. I was sitting there looking at this. :)
Another one has been using different phone numbers trying to get me to
answer. :)
It's not like Contacts on Droid can't do it, but Call Control blocks
text messages, 800 numbers, private, unknown numbers and etc etc (the
pro version). It cost like a $1.99 or something.
I have gotten no phone calls today from them, and I think that may be
they are figuring out that I don't want to play and give it a rest for a
little bit. :)

So ladies is another thing you know absolutely nothing about.
Who would have guessed that...

Big Steel

2012-07-14 23:06:39 UTC

On 7/14/2012 6:56 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

<snipped>

You got your nose split wide open like a little freak Köhlmann, and you
are on the chase like a ho Kohlmann.

chrisv

2012-07-16 12:43:00 UTC

Post by Peter KÃ¶hlmann

Post by Big Steel
I have gotten no phone calls today from them, and I think that may be
they are figuring out that I don't want to play and give it a rest for a
little bit. :)

So ladies is another thing you know absolutely nothing about.
Who would have guessed that...

Oh, Big Stool would be quite the "prize" for any lady. Laff.

--
"Do you think you should be able to buy a car with no seats from the
Ford showroom?" - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark, arguing that
unreasonable to expect OEM's to offer PC's with no OS installed

Big Steel

2012-07-16 12:50:48 UTC

On 7/16/2012 8:43 AM, chrisv wrote:

<snipped>

Ask Köhlmann's wife I have had her since Peter Pan Köhlmann spends just
a little too much time on Usenet. She's a panty dropper.

Peter Köhlmann

2012-07-16 13:28:06 UTC

Post by Peter KÃ¶hlmann

Post by Big Steel
I have gotten no phone calls today from them, and I think that may be
they are figuring out that I don't want to play and give it a rest for a
little bit. :)

So ladies is another thing you know absolutely nothing about.
Who would have guessed that...

Oh, Big Stool would be quite the "prize" for any lady. Laff.

Well, only for the $5 whores. Not that he could afford them, though

Big Steel

2012-07-16 13:31:31 UTC

On 7/16/2012 9:28 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote:

<snipped>

Peter Pan? Peter Pan? Peter Pan? When did you turn into a Peter Pan?

Henk & Ingrid

2012-07-16 20:14:34 UTC

Post by Big Steel
<snipped>
Peter Pan? Peter Pan? Peter Pan? When did you turn into a Peter Pan?

Dummkopf keeps coming back at you because he doesn't know shit about .NET.
He needs a bit of help, since he is a complete beginner, bwahahahaaah!
http://www.homeandlearn.co.uk/csharp/csharp.html
Poor Peter "cock up" Kohlmann!

Big Steel

2012-07-15 17:59:15 UTC

On 7/14/2012 2:49 PM, Foster wrote:

<snipped>

My Verizon mobile app now works on my Droid RM! And they gave me another
2gb of download for free to make up for download data usage because of
having to download apps for two phones and a hard reset of the first phone.

Torre Starnes

2012-07-15 22:53:55 UTC

Post by Big Steel
<snipped>
My Verizon mobile app now works on my Droid RM! And they gave me another
2gb of download for free to make up for download data usage because of
having to download apps for two phones and a hard reset of the first phone.

Nice!

There was definately a problem with that app and since it's
"embedded" into the Verizon bloatware it's impossible to
remove/repair.

That *is* one advantage Samsung phones do have AFAIK,even on Verizon
you can remove the bloatware.

With the motorola phones you need to root in order to remove.

To be honest, ICS is a mixed bag for me.
Better in some ways, not as good in others.
Nothing major, but I suspect an update/fix will be coming soon
because there are a lot of gotchas. The notification icons being so
dim you can't see them for one. The LED not working correctly is
another.

Still, IMHO the Razr Maxx is *the phone to beat* at least until the
Galaxy 3 is debugged.
The Maxx trounces the iPhone in just about every area that is
reasonably important.

BTW duaghter just dropped her iPhone 4S and screen (not LCD)
shattered... It was in a basic rubber bumper case.
$199.99 for a new one from Apple vs taking the entire POS apart,
with a zillion little parts. I looked that the videos. Not for the
faint of heart.
The new phone will be in an Otterbox Defender case.

I have my Maxx in an OtterBox Commuter case.
Real nice and makes the phone easier to hold without slipping.

Big Steel

2012-07-15 23:27:34 UTC

Post by Torre Starnes

Nice!
There was definately a problem with that app and since it's
"embedded" into the Verizon bloatware it's impossible to
remove/repair.
That *is* one advantage Samsung phones do have AFAIK,even on Verizon
you can remove the bloatware.
With the motorola phones you need to root in order to remove.
To be honest, ICS is a mixed bag for me.
Better in some ways, not as good in others.
Nothing major, but I suspect an update/fix will be coming soon
because there are a lot of gotchas. The notification icons being so
dim you can't see them for one. The LED not working correctly is
another.
Still, IMHO the Razr Maxx is *the phone to beat* at least until the
Galaxy 3 is debugged.
The Maxx trounces the iPhone in just about every area that is
reasonably important.
BTW duaghter just dropped her iPhone 4S and screen (not LCD)
shattered... It was in a basic rubber bumper case.
$199.99 for a new one from Apple vs taking the entire POS apart,
with a zillion little parts. I looked that the videos. Not for the
faint of heart.
The new phone will be in an Otterbox Defender case.
I have my Maxx in an OtterBox Commuter case.
Real nice and makes the phone easier to hold without slipping.

Yeah I have a case for my phone too. One that I can carry the phone on
my belt. It also has the little fold-out stand on the case.

Yeah this ICS is not stable on the development it seems. One day the
bookmarks for URL(s) changed from a scrollable widget on the desktop to
you have to drag bookmark icons to the desktop along with some other
things that have changed without notification that something was being
changed.

Do you know what this Swipe is about? I meant to ask at the VZW store
when it was mentioned to me.

Torre Starnes

2012-07-16 00:29:51 UTC

Post by Torre Starnes

Nice!
There was definately a problem with that app and since it's
"embedded" into the Verizon bloatware it's impossible to
remove/repair.
That *is* one advantage Samsung phones do have AFAIK,even on Verizon
you can remove the bloatware.
With the motorola phones you need to root in order to remove.
To be honest, ICS is a mixed bag for me.
Better in some ways, not as good in others.
Nothing major, but I suspect an update/fix will be coming soon
because there are a lot of gotchas. The notification icons being so
dim you can't see them for one. The LED not working correctly is
another.
Still, IMHO the Razr Maxx is *the phone to beat* at least until the
Galaxy 3 is debugged.
The Maxx trounces the iPhone in just about every area that is
reasonably important.
BTW duaghter just dropped her iPhone 4S and screen (not LCD)
shattered... It was in a basic rubber bumper case.
$199.99 for a new one from Apple vs taking the entire POS apart,
with a zillion little parts. I looked that the videos. Not for the
faint of heart.
The new phone will be in an Otterbox Defender case.
I have my Maxx in an OtterBox Commuter case.
Real nice and makes the phone easier to hold without slipping.

Yeah I have a case for my phone too. One that I can carry the phone on
my belt. It also has the little fold-out stand on the case.
Yeah this ICS is not stable on the development it seems. One day the
bookmarks for URL(s) changed from a scrollable widget on the desktop to
you have to drag bookmark icons to the desktop along with some other
things that have changed without notification that something was being
changed.

Yep.
Big complaint!

Post by Big Steel
Do you know what this Swipe is about? I meant to ask at the VZW store
when it was mentioned to me.

Swipe or Swype is where you can "lasso" letters in one movement
across the keyboard and get words out of it.

It takes getting used to but let's say you wanted to type Jayne, you
would start with J...slide your finger to A then Y etc all in one
motion and the built in text reco system would figure out the word
for you.

I don't like it.

Many people do.
You have to turn it on.
Try it and see.

Big Steel

2012-07-16 12:28:51 UTC

On 7/15/2012 8:29 PM, Torre Starnes wrote:

<snipped>

Now within the last day or so, this Android junk phone has been
locking-up. You have seen that big read icon that shows in the boot
before it says the word Droid while the icon is showing. It shows now as
the phone locks-up and displays the icon.

It drops to that icon stays there and the phone is locked. The only
thing one can do is hold the power button and the volume down button to
force a reset/restart to get to phone out of the lock-up.

Android? <pfft>

Nobody

2012-07-13 02:50:38 UTC

Post by Big Steel
<snipped>
The guy is an idiot to think that Sliverlight is just for watching
videos.

Nowhere in the article does he say he thinks that.

Post by Big Steel
I am sure MS doesn't care if NBC uses Silverlight or not, since
Sliverlight is more than video streaming.

Maybe M$ doesn't care if NBC pulls out of MSNBC too?

Post by Big Steel
Ahlstrom's ignorance is bliss.

Why don't you enlighten everybody on the multitude of non-video uses of
Silverlight? Try to stick to examples of things done personally by
yourself.

Big Steel

2012-07-13 02:52:08 UTC

RayLopez99

2012-07-13 19:20:30 UTC

Post by Big Steel
The guy is an idiot to think that Sliverlight is just for watching
videos. I am sure MS doesn't care if NBC uses Silverlight or not, since
Sliverlight is more than video streaming.
Ahlstrom's ignorance is bliss.

True, true. And as a fellow programmer I'm sure you agree coding for Silverlight is a breeze, compared to HTML5, PHP and other such kiddie script nonsense.

RL

Big Steel

2012-07-13 20:53:55 UTC

True, true. And as a fellow programmer I'm sure you agree coding for Silverlight is a breeze, compared to HTML5, PHP and other such kiddie script nonsense.

I have not messed around with Sliverlight in creating enterprise level
.NET business solutions at the UI. WPF and MVVM I have worked with and
it's just another UI form. The two forms are similar in that they use
XAML controls. I like XAML controls which are not unlike HTML in their
feel and usage.

WPF has some one-off tools that should be part of VS, like Prism. I'll
never use it unless it comes with VS in the future. It cost too much as
a standalone solution.

The lip-stick at the UI in the user's face is just lip-stick, and it's
worthless if the backend is not solid.

Someone like Ahlstrom a QA tester is a clown. Kholmann is a clown.
chrisv is a clown. And theses clowns are suppose to be professionals.
They are jokes, and how those clowns managed to get jobs in the industry
is amazing. They don't deserve to be in the industry.

Gasbag Goblin is for sure a clown that doesn't have a technical bone in
his body a dumb home user with tremendous lip-service and that's all he
has and nothing else.

Poaster? Well his just +1 Poaster nothing new. He's a dumb home user bar
none. He really is the biggest suck-up person I have ever seen on Usenet
or in real life bar none.

And now there is this new dumb home user clown named Nobody, a clown
will travel out of 24hourssupport.helpdesk, that dumb Kholmann has
fallen in love with and he is trying to protect.

Bottom line is this is Jokesville COLA, it's another worthless NG on
dying Usenet and it's right there with 24hourssupport.helpdesk as being
the total joke and pretty much worthless at all times.

RayLopez99

2012-07-13 21:13:23 UTC

Post by Big Steel
I have not messed around with Sliverlight in creating enterprise level
.NET business solutions at the UI. WPF and MVVM I have worked with and
it's just another UI form. The two forms are similar in that they use
XAML controls. I like XAML controls which are not unlike HTML in their
feel and usage.

Silverlight is just like a lightweight version of WPF, more or less. I love it because some people will not download a WPF app but they will click online, hence you can run an app remotely for these people and they can access your app via a browser. I've done databases in the cloud using Silverlight. Playing around with Azure now.

Post by Big Steel
WPF has some one-off tools that should be part of VS, like Prism. I'll
never use it unless it comes with VS in the future. It cost too much as
a standalone solution.

Not familiar with Prism but it looks interesting.

Post by Big Steel
The lip-stick at the UI in the user's face is just lip-stick, and it's
worthless if the backend is not solid.

Right.

Post by Big Steel
Someone like Ahlstrom a QA tester is a clown. Kholmann is a clown.

True. Only value-add they have is replicating the 80 IQ typical user.

Post by Big Steel
chrisv is a clown. And theses clowns are suppose to be professionals.
They are jokes, and how those clowns managed to get jobs in the industry
is amazing. They don't deserve to be in the industry.

That's true. Probably unemployed.

Post by Big Steel
Gasbag Goblin is for sure a clown that doesn't have a technical bone in
his body a dumb home user with tremendous lip-service and that's all he
has and nothing else.
Poaster? Well his just +1 Poaster nothing new. He's a dumb home user bar
none. He really is the biggest suck-up person I have ever seen on Usenet
or in real life bar none.

Imposter Poaster. +1 the dumb azz thinks he's part of the cool crowd by doing that.

Post by Big Steel
And now there is this new dumb home user clown named Nobody, a clown
will travel out of 24hourssupport.helpdesk, that dumb Kholmann has
fallen in love with and he is trying to protect.

Probably both gay lovers online and off. Germans are really queer.

Post by Big Steel
Bottom line is this is Jokesville COLA, it's another worthless NG on
dying Usenet and it's right there with 24hourssupport.helpdesk as being
the total joke and pretty much worthless at all times.

True. I only come here for entertainment. The Linux movement died around 2000. For a moment (as a MSFT shareholder) I was a bit concerned that Windows would lose their monopoly, but no longer. Like a cult it did have some momentum but it died out, just like Jonestown when the followers drank the Koolaid. Just trying doing something useful with Linux and you'll also drink the Koolaid and die.

Now these fools cling to the fact "Linux is run on some supercomputers", just like the Cray hardware people used to brag, before they went bankrupt.

RL

Big Steel

2012-07-13 21:55:54 UTC

Silverlight is just like a lightweight version of WPF, more or less. I love it because some people will not download a WPF
app but they will click online, hence you can run an app remotely for these people and they can access your app via a browser.
I've done databases in the cloud using Silverlight. Playing around with Azure now.

I was communicating with a poster in one of the MSDN .NET forums about
his ADO.NET timeout issues on trying to connect to SQL Server. He uses
Godaddy with a SQL Server hosted by Godaddy. Maybe I should have told
him to look at Azure with SQL Azure.

I have a book on Azure, and I was going at it strong at first. I have
not gotten into it like I should.

Post by Big Steel
WPF has some one-off tools that should be part of VS, like Prism. I'll
never use it unless it comes with VS in the future. It cost too much as
a standalone solution.

Not familiar with Prism but it looks interesting.

One of developers on a contract was boasting about it. It should be free
if you have an MSDN license, but it is not. You have to pay for it
separately. It's not that important as to where I needed it not for the
asking price.

The WPF contract I was working, the backend was using the Unity
Container. It seem to be very good tool.

http://blog.vascooliveira.com/unity-tutorial-and-examples/

Post by Big Steel
The lip-stick at the UI in the user's face is just lip-stick, and it's
worthless if the backend is not solid.

Right.

Post by Big Steel
Someone like Ahlstrom a QA tester is a clown. Kholmann is a clown.

True. Only value-add they have is replicating the 80 IQ typical user.

That's true. Probably unemployed.

Imposter Poaster. +1 the dumb azz thinks he's part of the cool crowd by doing that.

Probably both gay lovers online and off. Germans are really queer.

LOL!

True. I only come here for entertainment. The Linux movement died around 2000. For a moment (as a MSFT shareholder) I was a bit concerned that Windows would lose their monopoly, but no longer. Like a cult it did have some momentum but it died out, just like Jonestown when the followers drank the Koolaid. Just trying doing something useful with Linux and you'll also drink the Koolaid and die.
Now these fools cling to the fact "Linux is run on some supercomputers", just like the Cray hardware people used to brag, before they went bankrupt.
RL

There god id Android now just look around and see the many posts about
it. In the meantime, Android is costing carriers $2 billion a year on
defective Android phones being returned for replacements. I had to
return 4 of them here recently a nightmare.

What's with your NG reader and the garbling of words? Maybe it's
raggedy Thunderbird on my machine that is doing this.

RayLopez99

2012-07-14 17:15:35 UTC

What's with your NG reader and the garbling of words? Maybe it's
raggedy Thunderbird on my machine that is doing this.

No, it's Google Groups via Firefox... once in a while it does that, don't know why.

As I'm typing this, I'm installing Vista as a virtual OS on Oracle VM VirtualBox, an excellent virtual OS manager. Why Vista and not Linux? Be serious. I have some programs that I run that are Windows 7 or Vista compatible but I like to run them in the sandbox... hey I use my PC to do work, including Serious Work (i.e. Office stuff), not play. I code for fun and for profit but my idea of fun is actually coding something, not trying to get a Linux distro to work like Windows, like the Linux nutters do. To each their own though...

RL

RayLopez99

2012-07-14 17:43:27 UTC

Post by Big Steel
I was communicating with a poster in one of the MSDN .NET forums about
his ADO.NET timeout issues on trying to connect to SQL Server. He uses
Godaddy with a SQL Server hosted by Godaddy. Maybe I should have told
him to look at Azure with SQL Azure.
I have a book on Azure, and I was going at it strong at first. I have
not gotten into it like I should.

With all these dB programs (ADO.NET, Azure, Silverlight as a front end, Linq-to-SQL / EF as backend, WPF ditto, etc) as you know it's the configuration file settings that often give you fits... once you master them you're golden, at least until the next release of Visual Studio. It's almost as bad (I exaggerate) as the 1000s of Linux distros.

RL

Big Steel

2012-07-14 19:08:50 UTC

You have to stay on the bleeding edge and using new technology in order
to have longevity in the IT field and get paid for your expertise. :)

Nobody

2012-07-13 22:22:54 UTC

True, true. And as a fellow programmer I'm sure you agree coding for
Silverlight is a breeze, compared to HTML5, PHP and other such kiddie
script nonsense.

I have not messed around with Sliverlight in creating enterprise level
.NET business solutions at the UI. WPF and MVVM I have worked with and
it's just another UI form. The two forms are similar in that they use
XAML controls. I like XAML controls which are not unlike HTML in their
feel and usage.
WPF has some one-off tools that should be part of VS, like Prism. I'll
never use it unless it comes with VS in the future. It cost too much as
a standalone solution.
The lip-stick at the UI in the user's face is just lip-stick, and it's
worthless if the backend is not solid.
Someone like Ahlstrom a QA tester is a clown. Kholmann is a clown.
chrisv is a clown. And theses clowns are suppose to be professionals.
They are jokes, and how those clowns managed to get jobs in the industry
is amazing. They don't deserve to be in the industry.
Gasbag Goblin is for sure a clown that doesn't have a technical bone in
his body a dumb home user with tremendous lip-service and that's all he
has and nothing else.
Poaster? Well his just +1 Poaster nothing new. He's a dumb home user bar
none. He really is the biggest suck-up person I have ever seen on Usenet
or in real life bar none.
And now there is this new dumb home user clown named Nobody, a clown
will travel out of 24hourssupport.helpdesk, that dumb Kholmann has
fallen in love with and he is trying to protect.
Bottom line is this is Jokesville COLA, it's another worthless NG on
dying Usenet and it's right there with 24hourssupport.helpdesk as being
the total joke and pretty much worthless at all times.

You're so right... nothing for you here.... why not just amble on off to
some other NG that's worthy of you? Take Snit with you while you're
at it...

Big Steel

2012-07-13 22:48:54 UTC

On 7/13/2012 6:22 PM, Nobody wrote:
times.

Post by Nobody
You're so right... nothing for you here.... why not just amble on off to
some other NG that's worthy of you? Take Snit with you while you're at
it...

Fuck you and you kiss my ass is what you can do. Who the hell are you
bitch that you think that you can tell anyone what to do?

Nobody

2012-07-13 23:03:48 UTC

Post by Big Steel
times.

Post by Nobody
You're so right... nothing for you here.... why not just amble on off to
some other NG that's worthy of you? Take Snit with you while you're at
it...

Fuck you and you kiss my ass is what you can do. Who the hell are you
bitch that you think that you can tell anyone what to do?

I just made a suggestion based on the stuff you snipped. There was no
need for you to shit your pants.

Big Steel

2012-07-13 23:01:39 UTC

Post by Big Steel
times.

Post by Nobody
You're so right... nothing for you here.... why not just amble on off to
some other NG that's worthy of you? Take Snit with you while you're at
it...

Fuck you and you kiss my ass is what you can do. Who the hell are you
bitch that you think that you can tell anyone what to do?

I just made a suggestion based on the stuff you snipped. There was no
need for you to shit your pants.

You are a nuisance and go fuck yourself.

Nobody

2012-07-12 19:46:22 UTC

Post by Chris Ahlstrom
http://androidcommunity.com/nbc-dumps-silverlight-youtube-to-power-olympics-streaming-video-20120308/
Can I just say: finally. Finally. This isn’t stricly an Android story,
but NBC’s decision to dump Microsoft’s proprietary steaming
technology, Silverlight, is a win for every single Android user who
wants to watch the Olympics. Why? Because they’re switching to
YouTube, Google’s very own video playground that’s deeply integrated
into (almost) every Android phone and tablet. In addition to making
Android sports fans the world over happy, it’s going to save millions
of Internet citizens the hassle of installing the Silverlight plugin…
which they haven’t needed since two years ago, when the last Olympics
made use of it.
<chuckle>

This is ironic given the collaboration between NBC and M$ in MSNBC.

-hh

2012-07-13 11:04:45 UTC