Driving Lessons

[Mike McMillan]

I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

[Jenny M Benson]

Post by Mike McMillan
I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

My father's idea for my brother was that he would teach him to drive and
my brother could then go to a qualified instructor for a few lessons to
learn to pass the test. That worked ok.

[Vicky Ayech]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:20:51 +0100, Jenny M Benson

Post by Jenny M Benson

I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

My father's idea for my brother was that he would teach him to drive and
my brother could then go to a qualified instructor for a few lessons to
learn to pass the test. That worked ok.

I don't think B had lessons with an instructor. He had road sense and
knew the Highway Code as rode a bike. I sat next to him while he
practised. I did give advice but the car was automatic and he took the
test on that, which is much easier.

[Vicky Ayech]

On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 22:13:41 +0100, Vicky Ayech

Post by Vicky Ayech
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:20:51 +0100, Jenny M Benson

Post by Jenny M Benson

I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

My father's idea for my brother was that he would teach him to drive and
my brother could then go to a qualified instructor for a few lessons to
learn to pass the test. That worked ok.

I don't think B had lessons with an instructor. He had road sense and
knew the Highway Code as rode a bike. I sat next to him while he
practised. I did give advice but the car was automatic and he took the
test on that, which is much easier.

Oh no! He says he had 6 lessons with a driving instructor before I
took him out to practise.

[krw]

Post by Vicky Ayech
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 22:13:41 +0100, Vicky Ayech

Post by Vicky Ayech
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:20:51 +0100, Jenny M Benson

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Mike McMillan
I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

My father's idea for my brother was that he would teach him to drive and
my brother could then go to a qualified instructor for a few lessons to
learn to pass the test. That worked ok.

I don't think B had lessons with an instructor. He had road sense and
knew the Highway Code as rode a bike. I sat next to him while he
practised. I did give advice but the car was automatic and he took the
test on that, which is much easier.

Oh no! He says he had 6 lessons with a driving instructor before I
took him out to practise.

Our sixth form booked lessons with BSM and instead of "games" I (along
with 2 or 3 others) had driving lessons for about a term or so plus my
mother taking me out a few times. After I had passed my test (and
possibly before) I would often drive my father home from work - to work
was less frequent as he would drop me near the school on his way.

[Joe Kerr]

Post by krw

Post by Vicky Ayech
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 22:13:41 +0100, Vicky Ayech

Post by Vicky Ayech
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:20:51 +0100, Jenny M Benson

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Mike McMillan
I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

My father's idea for my brother was that he would teach him to drive and
my brother could then go to a qualified instructor for a few lessons to
learn to pass the test.  That worked ok.

I don't think B had lessons with an instructor. He had road sense and
knew the Highway Code as rode a bike. I sat next to him while he
practised. I did give advice but the car was automatic and he took the
test on that, which is much easier.

Oh no! He says he had 6 lessons with a driving instructor before I
took him out to practise.

Our sixth form booked lessons with BSM and instead of "games" I (along
with 2 or 3 others) had driving lessons for about a term or so plus my
mother taking me out a few times.  After I had passed my test (and
possibly before) I would often drive my father home from work - to work
was less frequent as he would drop me near the school on his way.

I had lessons plus help from my father. I frequently drove to school and
let him continue to work from there - the most beneficial part of the
exercise; I didn't have to worry about navigating and could concentrate
on controlling the car and watching the traffic. Anything I got wrong I
could try again the following day.

[steve hague]

Post by Mike McMillan
I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

Definitely a bad idea. I started giving wofe driving lessons when I was
21 and she was 18. Every mistake she made was clearly and obviously My
Fault, for giving the wrong instructions. She passed her test by the age
of 19 though, due to the excellent and very patient driving instructor
we signed her up with. Her sister had one driving lesson the same year
and decided that since the terms "Near side" and "Off side" were
obviously the wrong way round, she wouldn't bother any more.
Steve

[Clive Arthur]

Post by steve hague

Post by Mike McMillan
I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

Definitely a bad idea. I started giving wofe driving lessons when I was
21 and she was 18. Every mistake she made was clearly and obviously My
Fault, for giving the wrong instructions. She passed her test by the age
of 19 though, due to the excellent and very patient driving instructor
we signed her up with. Her sister had one driving lesson the same year
and decided that since the terms "Near side" and "Off side" were
obviously the wrong way round, she wouldn't bother any more.
Steve

We were getting on ok till I said to SWMBO, "Turn right at the
roundabout". She did.

It was my fault for not explaining that she had to go the long way round.

[Vicky Ayech]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:55:57 +0100, Clive Arthur

Post by Clive Arthur

Post by steve hague

I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

Definitely a bad idea. I started giving wofe driving lessons when I was
21 and she was 18. Every mistake she made was clearly and obviously My
Fault, for giving the wrong instructions. She passed her test by the age
of 19 though, due to the excellent and very patient driving instructor
we signed her up with. Her sister had one driving lesson the same year
and decided that since the terms "Near side" and "Off side" were
obviously the wrong way round, she wouldn't bother any more.
Steve

We were getting on ok till I said to SWMBO, "Turn right at the
roundabout". She did.
It was my fault for not explaining that she had to go the long way round.

You are Bob Newhart AICM5pounds

[Mike McMillan]

Post by Vicky Ayech
On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:55:57 +0100, Clive Arthur

Post by Clive Arthur

Post by steve hague

I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

Definitely a bad idea. I started giving wofe driving lessons when I was
21 and she was 18. Every mistake she made was clearly and obviously My
Fault, for giving the wrong instructions. She passed her test by the age
of 19 though, due to the excellent and very patient driving instructor
we signed her up with. Her sister had one driving lesson the same year
and decided that since the terms "Near side" and "Off side" were
obviously the wrong way round, she wouldn't bother any more.
Steve

We were getting on ok till I said to SWMBO, "Turn right at the
roundabout". She did.
It was my fault for not explaining that she had to go the long way round.

You are Bob Newhart AICM5pounds

‘You want to be sure of getting me next time???!!!’

[Vicky Ayech]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:37:31 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan

Post by Vicky Ayech
On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:55:57 +0100, Clive Arthur

Post by Clive Arthur

Post by steve hague

I?ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

Definitely a bad idea. I started giving wofe driving lessons when I was
21 and she was 18. Every mistake she made was clearly and obviously My
Fault, for giving the wrong instructions. She passed her test by the age
of 19 though, due to the excellent and very patient driving instructor
we signed her up with. Her sister had one driving lesson the same year
and decided that since the terms "Near side" and "Off side" were
obviously the wrong way round, she wouldn't bother any more.
Steve

We were getting on ok till I said to SWMBO, "Turn right at the
roundabout". She did.
It was my fault for not explaining that she had to go the long way round.

You are Bob Newhart AICM5pounds

‘You want to be sure of getting me next time???!!!’

LOL xx

[Vicky Ayech]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:55:57 +0100, Clive Arthur

Post by Clive Arthur

Post by steve hague

I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

Definitely a bad idea. I started giving wofe driving lessons when I was
21 and she was 18. Every mistake she made was clearly and obviously My
Fault, for giving the wrong instructions. She passed her test by the age
of 19 though, due to the excellent and very patient driving instructor
we signed her up with. Her sister had one driving lesson the same year
and decided that since the terms "Near side" and "Off side" were
obviously the wrong way round, she wouldn't bother any more.
Steve

We were getting on ok till I said to SWMBO, "Turn right at the
roundabout". She did.
It was my fault for not explaining that she had to go the long way round.

No,while you are here on the central island you are not blocking
anyone's lane
Sir, would you mind turning off the prinkler?
Awww now we hit someone Mrs X
The flashing red light on the car we hit confused you?

[Mike McMillan]

Post by Vicky Ayech
On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:55:57 +0100, Clive Arthur

Post by Clive Arthur

Post by steve hague

I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

Definitely a bad idea. I started giving wofe driving lessons when I was
21 and she was 18. Every mistake she made was clearly and obviously My
Fault, for giving the wrong instructions. She passed her test by the age
of 19 though, due to the excellent and very patient driving instructor
we signed her up with. Her sister had one driving lesson the same year
and decided that since the terms "Near side" and "Off side" were
obviously the wrong way round, she wouldn't bother any more.
Steve

We were getting on ok till I said to SWMBO, "Turn right at the
roundabout". She did.
It was my fault for not explaining that she had to go the long way round.

No,while you are here on the central island you are not blocking
anyone's lane
Sir, would you mind turning off the prinkler?
Awww now we hit someone Mrs X
The flashing red light on the car we hit confused you?

‘No, while you are on this traffic island Mrs. Webb, you are not blocking
anyone’s lane.’

And

‘The flashing red light on the car we hit blinded you?’

There was also, ‘That’s alright Mrs. Webb, I’ll get out on your side.’

[Nick Odell]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 17:55:57 +0100, Clive Arthur

Post by Clive Arthur

Post by steve hague

I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

Definitely a bad idea. I started giving wofe driving lessons when I was
21 and she was 18. Every mistake she made was clearly and obviously My
Fault, for giving the wrong instructions. She passed her test by the age
of 19 though, due to the excellent and very patient driving instructor
we signed her up with. Her sister had one driving lesson the same year
and decided that since the terms "Near side" and "Off side" were
obviously the wrong way round, she wouldn't bother any more.
Steve

We were getting on ok till I said to SWMBO, "Turn right at the
roundabout". She did.
It was my fault for not explaining that she had to go the long way round.

You might just have got away with that if you had been in Hemel
Hempstead at the time.


Nick

[Chris J Dixon]

Post by Clive Arthur
We were getting on ok till I said to SWMBO, "Turn right at the
roundabout". She did.
It was my fault for not explaining that she had to go the long way round.

It is for precisely that reason that the latest guidance on road
markings means that if the approach to a roundabout has a right
turn lane it does not have a right arrow on the road surface.

Chris

[Sam Plusnet]

Post by Chris J Dixon

Post by Clive Arthur
We were getting on ok till I said to SWMBO, "Turn right at the
roundabout". She did.
It was my fault for not explaining that she had to go the long way round.

It is for precisely that reason that the latest guidance on road
markings means that if the approach to a roundabout has a right
turn lane it does not have a right arrow on the road surface.

Also, the roundabout is not (except for the exceptions) shown on signs
as a complete circle.
There is a gap at around 5 o'clock - with the hope of dissuading people
from taking a shortcut to that right hand turn.

[Penny]

On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 07:43:27 +0100, steve hague <***@gmail.com>
scrawled in the dust...

Post by steve hague

Post by Mike McMillan
I’ve heard that a relation teaching someone to drive is a recipe for
disaster! Discuss please!

Definitely a bad idea. I started giving wofe driving lessons when I was
21 and she was 18. Every mistake she made was clearly and obviously My
Fault, for giving the wrong instructions. She passed her test by the age
of 19 though, due to the excellent and very patient driving instructor
we signed her up with. Her sister had one driving lesson the same year
and decided that since the terms "Near side" and "Off side" were
obviously the wrong way round, she wouldn't bother any more.
Steve

My father had allowed me to drive his car on an unmade road in Scotland
once I was tall enough to reach the pedals. He never repeated that. My
brothers used to drive old bangers* around the stubble fields (with the
farmer's permission) but I was never offered the chance to try it.

When I met the husgod I had been driving motorbikes for years. Once
pregnant with D#1 I felt vulnerable on the bike and he did take me out with
the L plates a few times. Neither of us enjoyed that. So he booked me some
driving lessons which worked much better. I failed my first test, having
developed the bad habit of looking left at a junction first when riding the
bike, which my instructor had never picked up on. As I was heavily pregnant
by then, I managed to get a fairly rapid retest and passed on the second
go.

The driving lessons were a great investment for the husgod. It meant I
could drive him to gigs.

*spillchicken suggests badgers

[Nick Odell]

On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:00:14 +0100, Penny <***@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
wrote:

<snip>

Post by Penny
The driving lessons were a great investment for the husgod. It meant I
could drive him to gigs.

Having been there, done that, so long ago that it was before the
invention of the t-shirt, my guess is that husgod valued his
investment even more for getting him home again afterwards.

Nick

[Jenny M Benson]

Post by Nick Odell
Having been there, done that, so long ago that it was before the
invention of the t-shirt, my guess is that husgod valued his
investment even more for getting him home again afterwards.

My father and his brother both worked in their father's oil company, but
also founded an import/export business and in the 1950s I remember a few
samples of their imports appearing in our home, among them T-shirts. A
great novelty and much appreciated by us 3 children.

This was probably round about the same time (or a little earlier) that
we saw and wore our first jeans. We were NOT allowed to wear jeans "in
public" and had to change even just to go the few hundred yards to Pop
Peever's for sweeties.

Another trial import I remember were sticking plasters - possibly
Band-Aids? - that we considered superior to Elastoplasts in some way,
but I've forgotten now what the difference was.

[Mike McMillan]

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Nick Odell
Having been there, done that, so long ago that it was before the
invention of the t-shirt, my guess is that husgod valued his
investment even more for getting him home again afterwards.

My father and his brother both worked in their father's oil company, but
also founded an import/export business and in the 1950s I remember a few
samples of their imports appearing in our home, among them T-shirts. A
great novelty and much appreciated by us 3 children.
This was probably round about the same time (or a little earlier) that
we saw and wore our first jeans. We were NOT allowed to wear jeans "in
public" and had to change even just to go the few hundred yards to Pop
Peever's for sweeties.
Another trial import I remember were sticking plasters - possibly
Band-Aids? - that we considered superior to Elastoplasts in some way,
but I've forgotten now what the difference was.

Perhaps Tracey will be needing a few after attempting to teach Chelsea how
to drive - and the vehicle may need some TLC too!

[Nick Odell]

On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:51:49 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan

Post by Mike McMillan

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Nick Odell
Having been there, done that, so long ago that it was before the
invention of the t-shirt, my guess is that husgod valued his
investment even more for getting him home again afterwards.

My father and his brother both worked in their father's oil company, but
also founded an import/export business and in the 1950s I remember a few
samples of their imports appearing in our home, among them T-shirts. A
great novelty and much appreciated by us 3 children.
This was probably round about the same time (or a little earlier) that
we saw and wore our first jeans. We were NOT allowed to wear jeans "in
public" and had to change even just to go the few hundred yards to Pop
Peever's for sweeties.
Another trial import I remember were sticking plasters - possibly
Band-Aids? - that we considered superior to Elastoplasts in some way,
but I've forgotten now what the difference was.

Perhaps Tracey will be needing a few after attempting to teach Chelsea how
to drive - and the vehicle may need some TLC too!

Is she learning to drive a farm vehicle? (F'r'Us)

Nick

[John Ashby]

Post by Nick Odell
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:51:49 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan

Post by Mike McMillan

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Nick Odell
Having been there, done that, so long ago that it was before the
invention of the t-shirt, my guess is that husgod valued his
investment even more for getting him home again afterwards.

My father and his brother both worked in their father's oil company, but
also founded an import/export business and in the 1950s I remember a few
samples of their imports appearing in our home, among them T-shirts. A
great novelty and much appreciated by us 3 children.
This was probably round about the same time (or a little earlier) that
we saw and wore our first jeans. We were NOT allowed to wear jeans "in
public" and had to change even just to go the few hundred yards to Pop
Peever's for sweeties.
Another trial import I remember were sticking plasters - possibly
Band-Aids? - that we considered superior to Elastoplasts in some way,
but I've forgotten now what the difference was.

Perhaps Tracey will be needing a few after attempting to teach Chelsea how
to drive - and the vehicle may need some TLC too!

Is she learning to drive a farm vehicle? (F'r'Us)
Nick

Well, she already got ploughed in her exams.

john

[Mike McMillan]

Post by Nick Odell
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:51:49 -0000 (UTC), Mike McMillan

Post by Mike McMillan

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Nick Odell
Having been there, done that, so long ago that it was before the
invention of the t-shirt, my guess is that husgod valued his
investment even more for getting him home again afterwards.

My father and his brother both worked in their father's oil company, but
also founded an import/export business and in the 1950s I remember a few
samples of their imports appearing in our home, among them T-shirts. A
great novelty and much appreciated by us 3 children.
This was probably round about the same time (or a little earlier) that
we saw and wore our first jeans. We were NOT allowed to wear jeans "in
public" and had to change even just to go the few hundred yards to Pop
Peever's for sweeties.
Another trial import I remember were sticking plasters - possibly
Band-Aids? - that we considered superior to Elastoplasts in some way,
but I've forgotten now what the difference was.

Perhaps Tracey will be needing a few after attempting to teach Chelsea how
to drive - and the vehicle may need some TLC too!

Is she learning to drive a farm vehicle? (F'r'Us)
Nick

What colour Chelsea Tractor would she drive - Pink?

[steve hague]

Post by Jenny M Benson

Post by Nick Odell
Having been there, done that, so long ago that it was before the
invention of the t-shirt, my guess is that husgod valued his
investment even more for getting him home again afterwards.

My father and his brother both worked in their father's oil company, but
also founded an import/export business and in the 1950s I remember a few
samples of their imports appearing in our home, among them T-shirts.  A
great novelty and much appreciated by us 3 children.
This was probably round about the same time (or a little earlier) that
we saw and wore our first jeans.  We were NOT allowed to wear jeans "in
public" and had to change even just to go the few hundred yards to Pop
Peever's for sweeties.
Another trial import I remember were sticking plasters - possibly
Band-Aids? - that we considered superior to Elastoplasts in some way,
but I've forgotten now what the difference was.

Elasto Plast probably wouldn't have raised as much money for charityin
the 1980s.
Steve

[Penny]

On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:36:53 +0100, Jenny M Benson <***@hotmail.co.uk>
scrawled in the dust...

Post by Jenny M Benson
Another trial import I remember were sticking plasters - possibly
Band-Aids? - that we considered superior to Elastoplasts in some way,
but I've forgotten now what the difference was.

We always had elastoplast in long strips, my mother had a cunning way of
cutting them so they fitted nicely on the end of a cut finger-tip and
stayed put - until you washed your hands and they got all soggy and pruned
your skin.

I think band-aids came in various shapes, with sticky all the way around,
and were waterproof.

[Penny]

On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 10:25:52 +0100, Nick Odell

Post by Nick Odell
<snip>

Post by Penny
The driving lessons were a great investment for the husgod. It meant I
could drive him to gigs.

Having been there, done that, so long ago that it was before the
invention of the t-shirt, my guess is that husgod valued his
investment even more for getting him home again afterwards.

Oh yes, I developed a taste for pineapple juice and soda, but always ended
the evening with a pint :)