To the Group, and to the Herculeans,
I am all for the progression of computer technology, but I am also in favor of preserving "the best of the past", to quote Security Primus Ivan Ulav in the pilot for an ill-fated television series "Genesis II".
Clearly, the IBM System/360 and the IBM System/370 hardware, systems and application software, documentation and knowledge base represent "the best of the past", and deserves to be preserved and persisted. For me, it just doesn't get old.
I urge the Herculeans to lay aside any weight which acts as a burden to Hercules progress and threatens the project's existence.
Currently, I still use Hercules 3.07. From what I can see, it is a very stable version, and runs faithfully day in and day out, year in and year out.
Yours truly,
Robert S. Duncan
Please check out my You Tube channel: ==> dosvsoperator!!!
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On Wed, 8/5/15, 'Ron Hilton' ***@comcast.net [hercules-390] <hercules-***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: RE: [hercules-390] Re: Asking again about Hercules 3.12 status
To: hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2015, 11:57 PM
Â
Herculeans,
Â
As
one who put a number of years of my
life into a similar project (PSI) which IBM acquired and
then largely shelved,
I can relate to the disappointment expressed below. But I
have great memories
of working with a world-class team at PSI and building a
great product which did
see the light of day, albeit only for a few years. I hope
the Hercules team can
feel the same satisfaction with what they have achieved. I
remember my first
manager at Amdahl in the early 80s telling our team that the
state-of-the-art computer
we were busily engaged in designing would some day be on the
rust heap, and
that we should not sacrifice ourselves and our personal
lives for it to the
extent that we end up on that rust heap too. Thatâs just
the nature of
technology. Each project is a stepping stone to the next,
even if it is a
failure (i.e. learning experience). But in the end, what
matters most are the
human relationships in working together as a team, and even
more importantly
your families who support and encourage you in what you are
doing and should be
foremost in your life.
Â
Ron
Hilton
Â
From:
hercules-***@yahoogroups.com [mailto:
hercules-***@yahoogroups.com ]
Sent:
Wednesday, August 05, 2015
4:06 PM
To:
hercules-***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re:
[hercules-390] Re:
Asking again about Hercules 3.12 status
Â
Â
On Wed, 8/5/15,
Post by ***@yahoo.com [hercules-390]Hercules is a great accomplishment, but for it to be an
accomplishment
Post by ***@yahoo.com [hercules-390]with a future and not just a past, each person must
come to terms with
that,
Post by ***@yahoo.com [hercules-390]and appreciate that accomplishing new goals with the
Hercules project is
Post by ***@yahoo.com [hercules-390]more important than any one person.Â
I respect your opinion quatras but I don't share it. I
don't mind that Hercules
may have only a past and no future. In my academic career so
far, I have seen
many research labs be vibrant of activity at some point and
then essentially
die off later when the people driving force behind them is
no longer there, or
when new people turn out to be interested by something else.
At first I felt
sad about this, but not anymore. Projects can't be
separated from people, and
people change, and time changes too. The computer scene
today changes all the
time and I don't see that Hercules will be an
exception.
Besides when I look at Hercules now, I ask myself a
question: what would be the
goal of pursuing Hercules development at this point? I am
not saying that it
should not be done but, from what I understand:
1) Roger Bowler's commercial attempt with Hercules
failed;
2) Hercules 3.12 or Hyperion are not needed to run the
vintage systems (those
"legally" available);
3) IBM made clear that running the ADCD systems on anything
else but zPDT is
strictly prohibited.
So what is left exactly for Hercules 3.12 or Hyperion?
Personally, I discovered Hercules 3.07 five years ago and I
played with the
vintage systems since then. But after five years, I explored
almost everything
I could with my (limited) knowledge of mainframes. Honestly,
the peak of my fun
is behing me. Sure I would love to continue having fun with
DOS/VS, MVS3.8J of
VM/370, but the Yahoo groups do not provide that much input
for me now. Since I
can't contribute myself, I can't be mad (or sad) at
people not writing. Could
it be that something like this is happening with
Hercules?
Yours truly,
Rene FERLAND, Montreal
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