Discussion:
HB 1388 Passed.....
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Gunner Asch
2010-05-08 04:33:25 UTC
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THINK THIS IS HYSTERIA? IF YOU DO,PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES AND YOUR
MINDS. LITTLE BY LITTLE THE PUZZLE PIECES ARE PLACED. THEN,"HOW DID
THIS HAPPEN?" IS OBAMA IN THE TANK FOR HAMAS AND THE MUSLIM
NATION??? IS OBAMA A CLOSET MUSLIM???


You just spent $20,000,000 to move members/supporters of Hamas, a
terrorist organization, to the United States; housing, food, the whole
enchilada.

HB 1388 PASSED

Whether you are an Obama fan, or not, EVERYONE IN THE U.S.
needs to know....

Something happened... H.R. 1388 was passed, behind our backs.
You may want to read about it... It wasn't mentioned on the news...
just went by on the ticker tape at the bottom of the CNN screen.

Obama funds $20M in tax payer dollars to immigrate Hamas
Refugees to the USA. This is the news that didn't make the headlines.

By executive order, President Barack Obama has ordered the
expenditure of $20.3 million in "migration assistance" to the
Palestinian refugees and "conflict victims" in Gaza.

The "presidential determination," which allows hundreds of
thousands of Palestinians with ties to Hamas to resettle in the
United States, was signed and appears in the Federal Register.

Few on Capitol Hill, or in the media, took note that the order
provides a free ticket replete with housing and food allowances to
individuals who have displayed their overwhelming support to the
Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) in the parliamentary election of
January 2006.

Now we learn that he is allowing thousands of Palestinian
refuges to move to, and live in, the US at American taxpayer expense.

These important, and insightful, issues are being "lost" in the
blinding bail-outs and "stimulation" packages.

Doubtful? To verify this for yourself:
_www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488_

(http://www.thefederalregister.com/d.p/2009-02-04-E9-2488

)

PLEASE PASS THIS ON... AMERICA NEEDS TO KNOW

WE are losing this country at a rapid pace.
Doug Miller
2010-05-08 10:47:26 UTC
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Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?

http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
Joe788
2010-05-08 11:24:34 UTC
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Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
Does it ever occur to a fucking moron like Doug Miller that Gunner is
too fucking dumb, too stupid and too lazy to check?

That Doug Miller and his imbecile pals follow Gunner's every post and
point this out over and over is even dumber than than the moronic
bullshit that brain dead Gunner believes and posts.
Doug Miller
2010-05-08 12:27:22 UTC
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Post by Doug Miller
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it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
Does it ever occur to a fucking moron like Doug Miller that Gunner is
too fucking dumb, too stupid and too lazy to check?
Does it ever occur to a fucking moron like Jon Banquer that Gunner is capable
of learning? Speaking of "capable of learning".... you figure out how to drill
holes yet, Jon?

Does it ever occur to a fucking moron like Jon Banquer that absolutely
*nobody* is fooled by his pretending to be "Larry Rozer" pretending to be
"Joe788"?

How's your job at Qualcom going, Jon?

Getting many hits on your blog at wordpress?
Joe788
2010-05-12 15:54:48 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
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Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you po=
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Post by Doug Miller
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
Does it ever occur to a fucking moron like Doug Miller that Gunner is
too fucking dumb, too stupid and too lazy to check?
Does it ever occur to a fucking moron like Jon Banquer that Gunner is capable
of learning? Speaking of "capable of learning".... you figure out how to drill
holes yet, Jon?
Does it ever occur to a fucking moron like Jon Banquer that absolutely
*nobody* is fooled by his pretending to be "Larry Rozer" pretending to be
"Joe788"?
How's your job at Qualcom going, Jon?
Getting many hits on your blog at wordpress?
LOL!
Gunner Asch
2010-05-08 19:11:08 UTC
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Post by Joe788
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
Does it ever occur to a fucking moron like Doug Miller that Gunner is
too fucking dumb, too stupid and too lazy to check?
That Doug Miller and his imbecile pals follow Gunner's every post and
point this out over and over is even dumber than than the moronic
bullshit that brain dead Gunner believes and posts.
So John..hows that job coming along?

Gunner
PrecisionmachinisT
2010-05-08 16:41:27 UTC
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Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
That's got to be one of the dumbest questions anyone here has asked so far
this year.

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Ed Huntress
2010-05-08 15:46:45 UTC
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Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
We've asked that question at least 100 times, Doug. The answer appears to
be, "no," and "yes," respectively.

I especially get a kick out of the ones that quote specific statistics that
are complete fabrications, like one he posted last week about the number of
people who live on farms. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
Shall not be infringed
2010-05-09 00:49:32 UTC
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Post by Ed Huntress
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
We've asked that question at least 100 times, Doug. The answer appears to
be, "no," and "yes," respectively.
I especially get a kick out of the ones that quote specific statistics that
are complete fabrications, like one he posted last week about the number of
people who live on farms. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
I don't think even farmers live on farms. Most of them have modern
homes in town.
Gunner Asch
2010-05-09 01:34:59 UTC
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On Sat, 8 May 2010 17:49:32 -0700 (PDT), Shall not be infringed
Post by Shall not be infringed
Post by Ed Huntress
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
We've asked that question at least 100 times, Doug. The answer appears to
be, "no," and "yes," respectively.
I especially get a kick out of the ones that quote specific statistics that
are complete fabrications, like one he posted last week about the number of
people who live on farms. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
I don't think even farmers live on farms. Most of them have modern
homes in town.
Some do, some dont. In Mid America..fly over country..most still live
on their farms.

Gunner
--
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Ed Huntress
2010-05-09 02:00:28 UTC
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Post by Ed Huntress
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
We've asked that question at least 100 times, Doug. The answer appears to
be, "no," and "yes," respectively.
I especially get a kick out of the ones that quote specific statistics that
are complete fabrications, like one he posted last week about the number of
people who live on farms. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
I don't think even farmers live on farms. Most of them have modern
homes in town.
Gunner says it's 11% of the population. <g>
--
Ed Huntress
jk
2010-05-09 02:58:17 UTC
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Post by Shall not be infringed
I don't think even farmers live on farms. Most of them have modern
homes in town.
Horse puckey

Both my grandfather, and my uncle lived on their farms until the day
they died, well outside of town, although it is a LOT closer than when
I was a kid. For my uncle it was one of several he owned, so no he
didn't live on all of them.

The family farm that my ancestors purchased in Wisconsin, when they
immigrated here is still an operating farm, and their descendants
still live there and run that farm.

In the area I live in, in the true norther california, LOTs of local
farmers live on the land they farm. I know of none that don't,
although there probably are quite a few.

And if a farmer sells half his land, and the town expands up to the
farmhouse, which way do you count it? He still lives on his farm, AND
in town.

[And ALL of that ignores the "urban pot farmers" that live IN their
farm.]

jk
Because We Carry the Fire?
2010-05-09 16:16:01 UTC
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Post by Ed Huntress
Post by Ed Huntress
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
We've asked that question at least 100 times, Doug. The answer appears to
be, "no," and "yes," respectively.
I especially get a kick out of the ones that quote specific statistics that
are complete fabrications, like one he posted last week about the number of
people who live on farms. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
I don't think even farmers live on farms. Most of them have modern
homes in town.
Gunner says it's 11% of the population. <g>
Maybe those farm houses are just Hollywood props?
Ed Huntress
2010-05-09 16:30:29 UTC
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Post by Because We Carry the Fire?
Post by Ed Huntress
Post by Ed Huntress
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
We've asked that question at least 100 times, Doug. The answer appears to
be, "no," and "yes," respectively.
I especially get a kick out of the ones that quote specific statistics that
are complete fabrications, like one he posted last week about the number of
people who live on farms. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
I don't think even farmers live on farms. Most of them have modern
homes in town.
Gunner says it's 11% of the population. <g>
Maybe those farm houses are just Hollywood props?
May be. I think most of the old barns are just billboards for Mail Pouch
chewing tobacco ads.
--
Ed Huntress
Shall not be infringed
2010-05-09 16:56:36 UTC
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Post by Ed Huntress
Post by Because We Carry the Fire?
Post by Ed Huntress
Post by Ed Huntress
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
We've asked that question at least 100 times, Doug. The answer appears to
be, "no," and "yes," respectively.
I especially get a kick out of the ones that quote specific statistics that
are complete fabrications, like one he posted last week about the number of
people who live on farms. d8-)
--
Ed Huntress
I don't think even farmers live on farms.  Most of them have modern
homes in town.
Gunner says it's 11% of the population. <g>
Maybe those farm houses are just Hollywood props?
May be. I think most of the old barns are just billboards for Mail Pouch
chewing tobacco ads.
--
Ed Huntress-
Yup. The only thing they need a barn for anymore is to store the RV
and fishing boats in.
Gunner Asch
2010-05-08 19:10:27 UTC
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Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
Given the pile of shit that finds its way into my inbox everyday...no, I
dont check most of it. I simply delete the vast majority of it.

This came from a good source however, and Ive emailed him a rather
stiff note of complaint.

Shrug. After all..it is something Lefttards would do.

Gunner
Doug Miller
2010-05-09 01:07:45 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
Given the pile of shit that finds its way into my inbox everyday...no, I
dont check most of it. I simply delete the vast majority of it.
This came from a good source however,
Obviously not!!
Post by Gunner Asch
and Ive emailed him a rather
stiff note of complaint.
Checking it out before repeating it might have been a better idea...
Gunner Asch
2010-05-09 01:23:57 UTC
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Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
Given the pile of shit that finds its way into my inbox everyday...no, I
dont check most of it. I simply delete the vast majority of it.
This came from a good source however,
Obviously not!!
Post by Gunner Asch
and Ive emailed him a rather
stiff note of complaint.
Checking it out before repeating it might have been a better idea...
Hindsight is easier than foresight.

Shrug.

Ive appologized for it several times so far. Thats all anyone gets.
Particularly lying Leftwingers.

Gunner
unknown
2010-05-09 15:07:04 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Doug Miller
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
Given the pile of shit that finds its way into my inbox everyday...no, I
dont check most of it. I simply delete the vast majority of it.
This came from a good source however,
Obviously not!!
Post by Gunner Asch
and Ive emailed him a rather
stiff note of complaint.
Checking it out before repeating it might have been a better idea...
Hindsight is easier than foresight.
Shrug.
Ive appologized for it several times so far. Thats all anyone gets.
Particularly lying Leftwingers.
You're a pathetic, ignorant piece of shit. You lie your ass off all
the time then whenever you get caught you justify it by saying that
"leftwingers" do it. You're the worst kind of human garbage there is.
Post by Gunner Asch
Gunner
Jeff M
2010-05-09 15:12:16 UTC
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[snip]
Post by unknown
You're a pathetic, ignorant piece of shit. You lie your ass off all
the time then whenever you get caught you justify it by saying that
"leftwingers" do it. You're the worst kind of human garbage there is.
Oh, c'mon, man. Don't sugarcoat it, just tell him how you really feel!
Shall not be infringed
2010-05-09 16:58:06 UTC
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Post by Jeff M
[snip]
You're a pathetic, ignorant piece of shit.  You lie your ass off all
the time then whenever you get caught you justify it by saying that
"leftwingers" do it.  You're the worst kind of human garbage there is.
Oh, c'mon, man.  Don't sugarcoat it, just tell him how you really feel!
I saw an apology. Apparently mr anon didn't. Too blinded by hate.
John R. Carroll
2010-05-09 18:06:58 UTC
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Post by Shall not be infringed
Post by Jeff M
On Sat, 08 May 2010 18:23:57 -0700, Gunner Asch
[snip]
You're a pathetic, ignorant piece of shit. You lie your ass off all
the time then whenever you get caught you justify it by saying that
"leftwingers" do it. You're the worst kind of human garbage there
is.
Oh, c'mon, man. Don't sugarcoat it, just tell him how you really
feel!
I saw an apology. Apparently mr anon didn't. Too blinded by hate.
What makes you think he was doing anything more than making an observation?
--
John R. Carroll
Shall not be infringed
2010-05-10 23:32:53 UTC
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Post by Jeff M
On Sat, 08 May 2010 18:23:57 -0700, Gunner Asch
[snip]
You're a pathetic, ignorant piece of shit. You lie your ass off all
the time then whenever you get caught you justify it by saying that
"leftwingers" do it. You're the worst kind of human garbage there
is.
Oh, c'mon, man. Don't sugarcoat it, just tell him how you really
feel!
I saw an apology.  Apparently mr anon didn't.  Too blinded by hate.
What makes you think he was doing anything more than making an observation?
That's 0bserver's job.
unknown
2010-05-09 18:16:05 UTC
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On Sun, 9 May 2010 09:58:06 -0700 (PDT), Shall not be infringed
Post by Shall not be infringed
Post by Jeff M
[snip]
You're a pathetic, ignorant piece of shit. =A0You lie your ass off all
the time then whenever you get caught you justify it by saying that
"leftwingers" do it. =A0You're the worst kind of human garbage there is=
.
Post by Jeff M
Oh, c'mon, man. =A0Don't sugarcoat it, just tell him how you really feel!
I saw an apology. Apparently mr anon didn't. Too blinded by hate.
It wasn't an apology. It was a justification "because leftists do
it".
Buerste
2010-05-10 01:57:26 UTC
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<hal> wrote in message news:***@news.newsguy.com...
<snip>
Post by unknown
It wasn't an apology. It was a justification "because leftists do
it".
Leftists are NEVER mistaken, wrong, erroneous, inaccurate, incorrect, false
or untrue! I know this because they continually tell us that. I've decided
to become a leftist, it will be wonderful!
Shall not be infringed
2010-05-10 23:37:58 UTC
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Post by Buerste
<snip>
Post by unknown
It wasn't an apology.  It was a justification "because leftists do
it".
Leftists are NEVER mistaken, wrong, erroneous, inaccurate, incorrect, false
or untrue!  I know this because they continually tell us that.  
And they don't ever, ever, ever lose climate data.
Post by Buerste
I've decided to become a leftist, it will be wonderful!
Yep, for example Cur-Lee said that the earth's climate is a
Post by Buerste
Post by unknown
CLOSED<<< system.
Just WOW!!!

I want that kind of a pass.
Buerste
2010-05-11 05:41:20 UTC
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Post by Buerste
<snip>
It wasn't an apology. It was a justification "because leftists do
it".
Leftists are NEVER mistaken, wrong, erroneous, inaccurate, incorrect, false
or untrue! I know this because they continually tell us that.
And they don't ever, ever, ever lose climate data.
Post by Buerste
I've decided to become a leftist, it will be wonderful!
Yep, for example Cur-Lee said that the earth's climate is a
Post by Buerste
CLOSED<<< system.
Just WOW!!!

I want that kind of a pass.

**************************************

I think it involves removing the parts of the brain responsible for reason,
accountability and morals...THEN we can become leftists!
Dan
2010-05-11 18:28:53 UTC
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Post by Shall not be infringed
Post by Buerste
<snip>
It wasn't an apology. It was a justification "because leftists do
it".
Leftists are NEVER mistaken, wrong, erroneous, inaccurate, incorrect, false
or untrue! I know this because they continually tell us that.
And they don't ever, ever, ever lose climate data.
Post by Buerste
I've decided to become a leftist, it will be wonderful!
Yep, for example Cur-Lee said that the earth's climate is a
Post by Buerste
CLOSED<<< system.
Just WOW!!!
I want that kind of a pass.
**************************************
I think
With a starting lie like that, the rest of this statement is suspect.
Post by Shall not be infringed
it involves removing the parts of the brain responsible for reason,
accountability and morals...THEN we can become leftists!
Yep, the rest of the statement was a lie in two parts: one, that the
author has parts of the brain responsible for reason, accountability,
and morals, and two, that removing these would allow said person to
become a leftist, as though that were a prerequisite.

Another sad little boy.

Dan
Buerste
2010-05-11 22:48:07 UTC
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Post by Dan
Post by Shall not be infringed
Post by Buerste
<snip>
It wasn't an apology. It was a justification "because leftists do
it".
Leftists are NEVER mistaken, wrong, erroneous, inaccurate, incorrect, false
or untrue! I know this because they continually tell us that.
And they don't ever, ever, ever lose climate data.
Post by Buerste
I've decided to become a leftist, it will be wonderful!
Yep, for example Cur-Lee said that the earth's climate is a
Post by Buerste
CLOSED<<< system.
Just WOW!!!
I want that kind of a pass.
**************************************
I think
With a starting lie like that, the rest of this statement is suspect.
Post by Shall not be infringed
it involves removing the parts of the brain responsible for reason,
accountability and morals...THEN we can become leftists!
Yep, the rest of the statement was a lie in two parts: one, that the
author has parts of the brain responsible for reason, accountability, and
morals, and two, that removing these would allow said person to become a
leftist, as though that were a prerequisite.
Another sad little boy.
Dan
Hi Dan,
Please point out to me liberal responsibility and reason. I realize there
will be a difference in your definition of those words and mine.
John R. Carroll
2010-05-11 22:58:39 UTC
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Post by Buerste
Post by Dan
Post by Shall not be infringed
Post by Buerste
<snip>
It wasn't an apology. It was a justification "because leftists do
it".
Leftists are NEVER mistaken, wrong, erroneous, inaccurate,
incorrect, false
or untrue! I know this because they continually tell us that.
And they don't ever, ever, ever lose climate data.
Post by Buerste
I've decided to become a leftist, it will be wonderful!
Yep, for example Cur-Lee said that the earth's climate is a
Post by Buerste
CLOSED<<< system.
Just WOW!!!
I want that kind of a pass.
**************************************
I think
With a starting lie like that, the rest of this statement is suspect.
Post by Shall not be infringed
it involves removing the parts of the brain responsible for reason,
accountability and morals...THEN we can become leftists!
Yep, the rest of the statement was a lie in two parts: one, that the
author has parts of the brain responsible for reason,
accountability, and morals, and two, that removing these would allow
said person to become a leftist, as though that were a prerequisite.
Another sad little boy.
Dan
Hi Dan,
Please point out to me liberal responsibility and reason. I realize
there will be a difference in your definition of those words and mine.
Not to but in here Tom but I've been looking over the HC bill that just
passed.
One clause requires business's to collect info and send 1099's for every
single thing purchased.
Everything.

Failing to do so will void the expense as a deduction. I think they are
trying to capture unreported income from vendors
for tax purposes. There is no personal property exception either. LOL
The IRS figures they loose $30 billion (?) per year or so in tax revenue.
This goes into effect for the tax year beginning 01/01/2012.

The death tax reductions Bush passed also sunset this year.
This is the year to die if you want to save your inheritors some money.
--
John R. Carroll
Joe788
2010-05-12 02:24:21 UTC
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Post by John R. Carroll
This is the year to die if you want to save your inheritors some money.
--
John R. Carroll
Suggest you start thinking of your inheritors then instead of being
the selfish bastard you normally are.

Change is good!
Buerste
2010-05-12 09:39:29 UTC
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Post by John R. Carroll
Post by Buerste
Post by Dan
Post by Shall not be infringed
Post by Buerste
<snip>
It wasn't an apology. It was a justification "because leftists do
it".
Leftists are NEVER mistaken, wrong, erroneous, inaccurate,
incorrect, false
or untrue! I know this because they continually tell us that.
And they don't ever, ever, ever lose climate data.
Post by Buerste
I've decided to become a leftist, it will be wonderful!
Yep, for example Cur-Lee said that the earth's climate is a
Post by Buerste
CLOSED<<< system.
Just WOW!!!
I want that kind of a pass.
**************************************
I think
With a starting lie like that, the rest of this statement is suspect.
Post by Shall not be infringed
it involves removing the parts of the brain responsible for reason,
accountability and morals...THEN we can become leftists!
Yep, the rest of the statement was a lie in two parts: one, that the
author has parts of the brain responsible for reason,
accountability, and morals, and two, that removing these would allow
said person to become a leftist, as though that were a prerequisite.
Another sad little boy.
Dan
Hi Dan,
Please point out to me liberal responsibility and reason. I realize
there will be a difference in your definition of those words and mine.
Not to but in here Tom but I've been looking over the HC bill that just
passed.
One clause requires business's to collect info and send 1099's for every
single thing purchased.
Everything.
Failing to do so will void the expense as a deduction. I think they are
trying to capture unreported income from vendors
for tax purposes. There is no personal property exception either. LOL
The IRS figures they loose $30 billion (?) per year or so in tax revenue.
This goes into effect for the tax year beginning 01/01/2012.
The death tax reductions Bush passed also sunset this year.
This is the year to die if you want to save your inheritors some money.
--
John R. Carroll
I don't understand, are you saying I have to file a seperate1099 for every
nut and bolt I buy, or everything I sell? IIRC, Death taxes only affect
estates in the millions and those people find legal ways to avoid big tax
bites.
John R. Carroll
2010-05-12 13:06:24 UTC
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Post by Buerste
I don't understand, are you saying I have to file a seperate1099 for
every nut and bolt I buy,
You have to print one up and send it off for everything you buy but only one
per vendor, not one per purchase.
Costco, Staples and every other vendor as well as contract emps.

The Feds will get the info electronically but as it stands today, you will
have to provide 1099's to everyone.
That's going to be a lot of paper and stamps.
--
John R. Carroll
Dan
2010-05-12 18:20:46 UTC
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Post by Buerste
Post by Dan
Post by Shall not be infringed
Post by Buerste
<snip>
It wasn't an apology. It was a justification "because leftists do
it".
Leftists are NEVER mistaken, wrong, erroneous, inaccurate, incorrect, false
or untrue! I know this because they continually tell us that.
And they don't ever, ever, ever lose climate data.
Post by Buerste
I've decided to become a leftist, it will be wonderful!
Yep, for example Cur-Lee said that the earth's climate is a
Post by Buerste
CLOSED<<< system.
Just WOW!!!
I want that kind of a pass.
**************************************
I think
With a starting lie like that, the rest of this statement is suspect.
Post by Shall not be infringed
it involves removing the parts of the brain responsible for reason,
accountability and morals...THEN we can become leftists!
Yep, the rest of the statement was a lie in two parts: one, that the
author has parts of the brain responsible for reason, accountability, and
morals, and two, that removing these would allow said person to become a
leftist, as though that were a prerequisite.
Another sad little boy.
Dan
Hi Dan,
Please point out to me liberal responsibility and reason.
What level of detail would you like?
Post by Buerste
I realize there
will be a difference in your definition of those words and mine.
True.

Dan
Shall not be infringed
2010-05-10 23:35:11 UTC
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Post by unknown
On Sun, 9 May 2010 09:58:06 -0700 (PDT), Shall not be infringed
Post by Jeff M
[snip]
You're a pathetic, ignorant piece of shit. =A0You lie your ass off all
the time then whenever you get caught you justify it by saying that
"leftwingers" do it. =A0You're the worst kind of human garbage there is=
.
Post by Jeff M
Oh, c'mon, man. =A0Don't sugarcoat it, just tell him how you really feel!
I saw an apology.  Apparently mr anon didn't.  Too blinded by hate.
It wasn't an apology.  It was a justification "because leftists do
it".  
"""Ive appologized for it several times so far. Thats all anyone
gets.
Particularly lying Leftwingers."""

Gunner
Gunner Asch
2010-05-11 00:00:31 UTC
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On Mon, 10 May 2010 16:35:11 -0700 (PDT), Shall not be infringed
Post by Shall not be infringed
Post by unknown
On Sun, 9 May 2010 09:58:06 -0700 (PDT), Shall not be infringed
Post by Jeff M
[snip]
You're a pathetic, ignorant piece of shit. =A0You lie your ass off all
the time then whenever you get caught you justify it by saying that
"leftwingers" do it. =A0You're the worst kind of human garbage there is=
.
Post by Jeff M
Oh, c'mon, man. =A0Don't sugarcoat it, just tell him how you really feel!
I saw an apology.  Apparently mr anon didn't.  Too blinded by hate.
It wasn't an apology.  It was a justification "because leftists do
it".  
"""Ive appologized for it several times so far. Thats all anyone
gets.
Particularly lying Leftwingers."""
Gunner
Indeed.

Gunner
Dan
2010-05-10 05:51:19 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
Given the pile of shit that finds its way into my inbox everyday...no, I
dont check most of it. I simply delete the vast majority of it.
This came from a good source however, and Ive emailed him a rather
stiff note of complaint.
OBVIOUSLY NOT a "good source." I'm betting most, if not all, of this
source's other offerings have been posted here and soundly thrashed by
the less-ideological among us, time and again.
Post by Gunner Asch
Shrug. After all..it is something Lefttards would do.
No, it is not. It does reek of rightwingnutery, however!

Dan
anorton
2010-05-08 19:55:26 UTC
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Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
You see a similar phenomena in the science newsgroups. Someone develops or
latches onto some wacky theory (e.g. refuting Einstein or seeing fossils in
the Mars photos) and it becomes so much a part of their reason for being
that they will not or can not discard it regardless of the amount of
contradictory evidence presented to them. As they become more desperate,
they will misinterpret facts or accept without question any falsehood from
any source that even slightly supports their theory. As these are rebutted,
they become more threatened and threatening.

Just to be clear, I am not saying this about anyone who is conservative. I
am very middle of the road and have several intelligently conservative
friends. However, the problem is unthinking ideologues on the extreme left
of right who basically live in a fantasy world.
Gunner Asch
2010-05-08 22:12:08 UTC
Permalink
On Sat, 8 May 2010 12:55:26 -0700, "anorton"
Post by anorton
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
You see a similar phenomena in the science newsgroups. Someone develops or
latches onto some wacky theory (e.g. refuting Einstein or seeing fossils in
the Mars photos) and it becomes so much a part of their reason for being
that they will not or can not discard it regardless of the amount of
contradictory evidence presented to them. As they become more desperate,
they will misinterpret facts or accept without question any falsehood from
any source that even slightly supports their theory. As these are rebutted,
they become more threatened and threatening.
Just to be clear, I am not saying this about anyone who is conservative. I
am very middle of the road and have several intelligently conservative
friends. However, the problem is unthinking ideologues on the extreme left
of right who basically live in a fantasy world.
Quite frankly....is ANYTHING the Left does so far out and extreme that
its unbelievable?

Im curious..how many Somalis are now living in the US...victims of
"persecution...." and brought into the US by the Leftwing?

http://www.cal.org/co/bantu/sbintro.html

"In Africa, the Bantu-speaking peoples make up a major part of the
population of nearly all African countries south of the Sahara. They
belong to over 300 groups, each with its own language or dialect. Groups
vary in size from a few hundred to several million. Among the best known
are the Kikuyu, the largest group in Kenya; the Swahili, whose language
is spoken throughout eastern Africa; and the Zulu of South Africa.

The Somali Bantu can be subdivided into distinct groups. There are those
who are indigenous to Somalia, those who were brought to Somalia as
slaves from Bantu-speaking tribes but integrated into Somali society,
and those who were brought to Somalia as slaves but maintained, to
varying degrees, their ancestral culture, Bantu languages, and sense of
southeast African identity. It is this last group of Bantu refugees that
has particularly suffered persecution in Somalia and that is therefore
in need of protection through resettlement. These Bantu originally
sought resettlement to Tanzania in 1993 and 1994, and to Mozambique in
1997 and 1998, before they were considered for resettlement in the
United States in 1999.

As a persecuted minority group in Somalia, the Bantu refugees have
endured continual marginalization in Somalia since their arrival as
slaves in the 19th century. Although they have lived in Somalia for
approximately two centuries, these Bantu are, in many ways, viewed and
treated as foreigners. This history, coupled with their cultural,
linguistic and physical differences, distinguishes them from other
Somali refugees who have been resettled in the United States. The
culture of subjugation under which most of them lived may present
special challenges to their American resettlement caseworkers.

Today, an estimated 300 Somali Bantu live in the United States. Of
these, some have come as students, others have accompanied spouses or
other family members, and a few have been resettled as refugees. The
Somali Bantu, like other refugee groups, have tended to concentrate in
urban areas. One of the largest concentrations is in Atlanta, Georgia,
where the Bantu have established a community association, the Somali
Bantu Community Organization, to assist newly resettled Somali Bantu
refugees.

The total number of Somalis living in the United States is estimated at
150,000, of whom about 40,000 are Somali refugees from the dominant
clans. With tens of thousands of Somalis, Minneapolis has the largest
Somali community in the United States. Other metropolitan areas with
large numbers of Somalis include Columbus, Ohio, New York City,
Washington, D.C., Boston, San Diego, Atlanta, and Detroit. (For more
information on Somalia in general, please see the Center for Applied
LinguisticsÕ Culture Profile on Somali refugees.)

Before the U.S. resettlement offer, faced with the prospect of
indefinite residency in the refugee camps, some Bantu refugee families
may have felt compelled to send members back to Somalia to try to claim
their former farms. However, when asked in 1996 if Bantu refugees were
still determined to resettle, a Bantu elder affirmed emphatically, ÒWe
didnÕt know what freedom was; we have been let out of the cage and we
donÕt want to go back in.Ó "


Resettlement offers are hardly new for the Leftwing

http://www.speroforum.com/a/31510/Volcanos-eruption-delays-UN-plan-to-resettle-Palestinian-refugees-in-France

http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/category/other-refugees/

http://www.amazon.com/Buddha-Hiding-Refugees-Citizenship-Anthropology/dp/0520238249

Cubans, Hmong, Iraqi, Kurdish, Iranians, Haitian, Salvadoran, Bosnian,
the list goes on and on.

And then of course are the Illegal "immigrants" from at least 5 Latin
American countries that are settled in the US, that the Left is so fond
of.

So it was logical to think that the Friends of the Tangos, the
Democrats, would let..nay..encourage..a host of them to come to America.

Shrug

Gunner
Jessica Wabbit
2010-05-09 16:12:31 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
So it was logical to think that the Friends of the Tangos, the
Democrats, would let..nay..encourage..a host of them to come to America.
What you consider logical is the real problem.
Gunner Asch
2010-05-09 21:24:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Jessica Wabbit
Post by Gunner Asch
So it was logical to think that the Friends of the Tangos, the
Democrats, would let..nay..encourage..a host of them to come to America.
What you consider logical is the real problem.
That you think the delusions of your fellow mentally ill compadres has
any bearing on Reality is one..one of your problems.

So hows that Somali thingy coming along?

<VBG>

Gunner
--
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Jessica Wabbit
2010-05-09 23:37:15 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Jessica Wabbit
Post by Gunner Asch
So it was logical to think that the Friends of the Tangos, the
Democrats, would let..nay..encourage..a host of them to come to America.
What you consider logical is the real problem.
That you think the delusions of your fellow mentally ill compadres has
any bearing on Reality is one..one of your problems.
So hows that Somali thingy coming along?
<VBG>
A ' Somali thingy' must be another one of those code words used by the
insane. Gumby, I think that your spaghetti is unbuttoned again.
Gunner Asch
2010-05-10 02:02:07 UTC
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Post by Jessica Wabbit
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Jessica Wabbit
Post by Gunner Asch
So it was logical to think that the Friends of the Tangos, the
Democrats, would let..nay..encourage..a host of them to come to America.
What you consider logical is the real problem.
That you think the delusions of your fellow mentally ill compadres has
any bearing on Reality is one..one of your problems.
So hows that Somali thingy coming along?
<VBG>
A ' Somali thingy' must be another one of those code words used by the
insane. Gumby, I think that your spaghetti is unbuttoned again.
So Jessie didnt follow the links I provided...did she? Dont know how?
Or do you simply wish to remain an ignorant and mentally ill cunt?

Gunner
--
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
raamman
2010-05-09 15:17:01 UTC
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Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
the point is to spread paranoia, truth and facts only get in the way.
gunner must be holed up in a corner of his basement with a shotgun a
bottle of rye and a tin foil hat. yep, the black army's gonna weed you
out and send you to the concentration camp in north korea. then who'll
be laughing ?
Gunner Asch
2010-05-09 20:52:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by raamman
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
the point is to spread paranoia, truth and facts only get in the way.
gunner must be holed up in a corner of his basement with a shotgun a
bottle of rye and a tin foil hat. yep, the black army's gonna weed you
out and send you to the concentration camp in north korea. then who'll
be laughing ?
Fascinating summation of the Leftwing viewpoint, but the inclusion of
the shotgun is way out in left field. Most Leftwingers not only cant own
a shotgun because they are scared shitless of them, but by law, are not
allowed to own one. Mental illness/criminal history prevent them from
legally owning one.

Gunner
Jessica Wabbit
2010-05-10 21:50:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by raamman
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
the point is to spread paranoia, truth and facts only get in the way.
gunner must be holed up in a corner of his basement with a shotgun a
bottle of rye and a tin foil hat. yep, the black army's gonna weed you
out and send you to the concentration camp in north korea. then who'll
be laughing ?
Fascinating summation of the Leftwing viewpoint, but the inclusion of
the shotgun is way out in left field. Most Leftwingers not only cant own
a shotgun because they are scared shitless of them, but by law, are not
allowed to own one. Mental illness/criminal history prevent them from
legally owning one.
Gunner
Gumby, you are so obsessed about "mental illness" ... is that what has
been keeping you from lawful employment?
Gunner Asch
2010-05-10 22:01:35 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 10 May 2010 14:50:03 -0700 (PDT), Jessica Wabbit
Post by Jessica Wabbit
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by raamman
Post by Doug Miller
Post by Gunner Asch
Subject: Fwd: Fw: HB 1388 PASSED
[load of manure snipped]
Does it EVER cross your mind to check ANY of this stuff out before you post
it, or do you believe every piece of crap that lands in your inbox?
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/05/hr-1388-passed-behind-our-backs/
the point is to spread paranoia, truth and facts only get in the way.
gunner must be holed up in a corner of his basement with a shotgun a
bottle of rye and a tin foil hat. yep, the black army's gonna weed you
out and send you to the concentration camp in north korea. then who'll
be laughing ?
Fascinating summation of the Leftwing viewpoint, but the inclusion of
the shotgun is way out in left field. Most Leftwingers not only cant own
a shotgun because they are scared shitless of them, but by law, are not
allowed to own one. Mental illness/criminal history prevent them from
legally owning one.
Gunner
Gumby, you are so obsessed about "mental illness" ... is that what has
been keeping you from lawful employment?
Should your mental illness keep me from employment?
Id hardly think so, do you?

On the other hand....we do have the California Economy and its 32%
unemployment rate. And since Im a business owner..I cant claim
unemployment insurance, not having paid any for myself for the past 13
yrs.

Was there anything else you wished to spew, before they come in and give
you your thorazine shot and put you in your recliner to brood at the
wallpaper?

Gunner
--
"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
Joe788
2010-05-12 02:30:10 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
On the other hand....we do have the California Economy and its 32%
unemployment rate.
California's economy for machinists living in the San Diego area
continues to flurish. However, there is a major shortage here of jobs
for those who want $75 an hour, have a shit hole of a shop that looks
like the one in the pictures you posted, beg on Usenet for free ER-32
collets, etc.

According to your former best bud Carol you do lousy work. Is that the
reason Carol won't return your tool to you? For the first time in her
life she might be right.
Gunner Asch
2010-05-22 21:18:51 UTC
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Post by Joe788
Post by Gunner Asch
On the other hand....we do have the California Economy and its 32%
unemployment rate.
California's economy for machinists living in the San Diego area
continues to flurish. However, there is a major shortage here of jobs
for those who want $75 an hour, have a shit hole of a shop that looks
like the one in the pictures you posted, beg on Usenet for free ER-32
collets, etc.
Major shortage of machine repair guys who want $75 an hour?
Snicker...there are hundreds of them in So. Cal, well..there used to be.
At least 30 of them known to me, have retired, or packed up and left
California in the last 14 months. The rest...well...many are now working
at Home Depot.

Odd though that you think my home hobby shop (under constuction) has
anything to do with commercial machining. Are you actually retarded..or
is it simply an act used to gain you some pity?
Post by Joe788
According to your former best bud Carol you do lousy work. Is that the
reason Carol won't return your tool to you? For the first time in her
life she might be right.
First of all..once again you slip in your drool. Carol is a guy. John
Caroll (sp).
Secondly...when you loan something to someone..its not a gift.
Thirdly..you are claiming that John Carrol..a man who shits out turds
lightyears smarter than you, might be right for once(?)

Even the mans occasional buffoonery is smarter than you will ever be.

Shrug

Oh...I just returned from 2 weeks on Fullerton and Anaheim, closing down
and then auctioning yet another large California machine shop.

Oh fuck yes...manufacturing is doing so so so fucking well. Thats why
there are For Sale/For Lease/Closing signs all over the fucking place.
And no buyers.

But hey..you are a right fart smeller, so it must be true

Laugh laugh laugh

Gunner
Winston_Smith
2010-05-22 22:03:47 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Oh...I just returned from 2 weeks on Fullerton and Anaheim, closing down
and then auctioning yet another large California machine shop.
Oh fuck yes...manufacturing is doing so so so fucking well. Thats why
there are For Sale/For Lease/Closing signs all over the fucking place.
And no buyers.
I have to take note that a thrift store here named "Savers" closed up
shop a month ago.

Things are tough when thrift shops can't stay in business.

And they were my only source of the shape beer glass I like, too.
Rough all over, I guess.

One of the Jack-in-the-Box locations went feet up last week too.
Their service was so awful it's hard to decide if was that or all
those green shoots that got them, though.

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