I take it no-one's interested....

[Spike]

...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.

But you all know it's going to be bad news, especially as June 2018 is
the predicted month for the 5000th post, and the group is currently 245
posts short of that number, with a prediction of being between 187 and
208 posts behind on the day itself.

This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.
But you all know it's going to be bad news, especially as June 2018 is
the predicted month for the 5000th post, and the group is currently 245
posts short of that number, with a prediction of being between 187 and
208 posts behind on the day itself.

Almost 5000 posts in two and a half years, to a niche interest newsgroup,
on Usenet, in the 21st Century? That's great news! Well done, ukrammers!

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

LOL! YFI!

[Brian Reay]

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.
But you all know it's going to be bad news, especially as June 2018 is
the predicted month for the 5000th post, and the group is currently 245
posts short of that number, with a prediction of being between 187 and
208 posts behind on the day itself.

Almost 5000 posts in two and a half years, to a niche interest newsgroup,
on Usenet, in the 21st Century? That's great news! Well done, ukrammers!

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

LOL! YFI!

His attempts to try and salvage some dignity from disgrace are pathetic.
Having churned out his dubious reports for years, he has been forced to
conceded that not only are they a joke but no one believes them. He has
been predicting the demise of ukram, the RSGB, and of course, RSGBTech,
for years yet all continue to exist, if not thrive. Meanwhile, the cosy
little group set up by his fellow usual reject is on its last legs.

[Spike]

Post by Brian Reay
His attempts to try and salvage some dignity from disgrace are pathetic.
Having churned out his dubious reports for years, he has been forced to
conceded that not only are they a joke but no one believes them. He has
been predicting the demise of ukram, the RSGB, and of course, RSGBTech,
for years yet all continue to exist, if not thrive. Meanwhile, the cosy
little group set up by his fellow usual reject is on its last legs.

You could always post your evidence of your claims - but you won't, so
they remain just that, and about as valuable as your intestinal gas
expelled at a Lodge Night dinner.

For UKRAM, we are now only a few days short of the predicted date for
post No. 5000, and are currently >10% below the required number of posts
for that interval. Even your 'no technical knowledge' friend - the one
who shot himself in the foot so many times during his failed attempts to
get the group created, has essentially ceased posting there.

The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time, it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

HTH.

[Ian Jackson]

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have been
fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for this NG.

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

[Spike]

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have been
fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter than it
was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

But 75 - yes, 75! - percent down in postings. It's at the stage where
it's dead but it won't lie down.

[Mr On!on]

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have been
fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter than it
was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.
But 75 - yes, 75! - percent down in postings. It's at the stage where
it's dead but it won't lie down.

Nobody cares that you care so much. [fu2: bit-bucket]

[Bernie]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:40:37 +0100

Post by Mr On!on

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has
increased - and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs
(who these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a
'quiet' group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the
posts have been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than
can be said for this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter
than it was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than
Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard
of English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.
But 75 - yes, 75! - percent down in postings. It's at the stage
where it's dead but it won't lie down.

Nobody cares that you care so much. [fu2: bit-bucket]

I care. [fu2: uk.rec.sheds]

[Stephen Thomas Troll]

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have
been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for
this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter than it
was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Burt, just a glance at the headers, Burt? Burt, you're in good company,
Burt.


Burt, Thanks, Burt.

[Huge]

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have
been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for
this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter than it
was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Shut the fuck up, then. No-one cares. Go back to swimming in your
cesspool.

[Stephen Thomas Troll]

Post by Huge

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have
been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for
this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter than
it was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than Usenet in
general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Shut the fuck up, then. No-one cares. Go back to swimming in your
cesspool.

Huge, The Burt Report is a very important and influential report, Huge.
Huge, it's a report of Substance, Huge.


Huge, Thanks, Huge.

[Roger Hayter]

Post by Huge

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have
been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for
this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter than it
was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Shut the fuck up, then. No-one cares. Go back to swimming in your
cesspool.

To be fair, it's STC who keeps crossposting these silly ukram reports to
the management groups, despite everyone asking him not to.

[Stephen Thomas Troll]

Post by Roger Hayter

Post by Huge

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have
been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said
for this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter
than it was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than
Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Shut the fuck up, then. No-one cares. Go back to swimming in your
cesspool.

To be fair, it's STC who keeps crossposting these silly ukram reports to
the management groups, despite everyone asking him not to.

Roger, I haven't asked him not to, Roger. Roger, so not quite Everyone,
Roger.


Roger, Thanks, Roger.

[Roger Hayter]

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Roger Hayter

Post by Huge

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have
been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said
for this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter
than it was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than
Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Shut the fuck up, then. No-one cares. Go back to swimming in your
cesspool.

To be fair, it's STC who keeps crossposting these silly ukram reports to
the management groups, despite everyone asking him not to.

Roger, I haven't asked him not to, Roger. Roger, so not quite Everyone,
Roger.
Roger, Thanks, Roger.

Well maybe not quite *everyone*, but I have.

[Stephen Thomas Troll]

Post by Roger Hayter

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Roger Hayter

Post by Huge

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs
(who these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been
a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts
have been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be
said for this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter
than it was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than
Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard
of English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Shut the fuck up, then. No-one cares. Go back to swimming in your
cesspool.

To be fair, it's STC who keeps crossposting these silly ukram reports
to the management groups, despite everyone asking him not to.

Roger, I haven't asked him not to, Roger. Roger, so not quite Everyone,
Roger.
Roger, Thanks, Roger.

Well maybe not quite *everyone*, but I have.

Roger, fair enough, Roger. Roger, that's /nearly/ everyone, Roger.


Roger, Thanks, Roger.

[Ian Jackson]

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have
been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for
this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter than it
was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Burt, just a glance at the headers, Burt? Burt, you're in good company,
Burt.
Burt, Thanks, Burt.

Steve - are you one of those pillocks, Steve, who, during a QSO, Steve,
at the start and end of every 'over' (no matter how short, Steve), gives
every participant's callsign - including, Steve, the full phonetics?

[Stephen Thomas Troll]

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have
been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for
this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter than
it was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than Usenet in
general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Burt, just a glance at the headers, Burt? Burt, you're in good company,
Burt.
Burt, Thanks, Burt.

Steve - are you one of those pillocks, Steve, who, during a QSO, Steve,
at the start and end of every 'over' (no matter how short, Steve), gives
every participant's callsign - including, Steve, the full phonetics?

Ian, no, I'm not, Ian. Ian, are you one of those pillocks, Ian, who,
during a QSO, Ian, at the start and end of every 'over' (no matter how
short, Ian), gives every participant's callsign - including, Ian, the
full phonetics, Ian?


Ian, Thanks, Ian.

[Ian Jackson]

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have
been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for
this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter than
it was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than Usenet in
general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Burt, just a glance at the headers, Burt? Burt, you're in good company,
Burt.
Burt, Thanks, Burt.

Steve - are you one of those pillocks, Steve, who, during a QSO, Steve,
at the start and end of every 'over' (no matter how short, Steve), gives
every participant's callsign - including, Steve, the full phonetics?

Ian, no, I'm not, Ian. Ian, are you one of those pillocks, Ian, who,
during a QSO, Ian, at the start and end of every 'over' (no matter how
short, Ian), gives every participant's callsign - including, Ian, the
full phonetics, Ian?

Was that cut and pasted - or did you type it out yourself?

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll
Ian, Thanks, Ian.

Don't mention it. It's all part of the service (although gratuities are
always welcome).

[Stephen Thomas Troll]

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have
been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said
for this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter
than it was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than
Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Burt, just a glance at the headers, Burt? Burt, you're in good company,
Burt.
Burt, Thanks, Burt.

Steve - are you one of those pillocks, Steve, who, during a QSO,
Steve, at the start and end of every 'over' (no matter how short,
Steve), gives every participant's callsign - including, Steve, the
full phonetics?

Ian, no, I'm not, Ian. Ian, are you one of those pillocks, Ian, who,
during a QSO, Ian, at the start and end of every 'over' (no matter how
short, Ian), gives every participant's callsign - including, Ian, the
full phonetics, Ian?

Was that cut and pasted - or did you type it out yourself?

Ian, C&P, Ian. Ian, with just a tiny bit, Ian, a tiny bit of
customisation, Ian.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll
Ian, Thanks, Ian.

Don't mention it. It's all part of the service (although gratuities are
always welcome).

Ian, I'm sure your contribution, Ian, will be enjoyed by many, Ian.


Ian, Thanks, Ian.

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 13:23:46 GMT, Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have
been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said
for this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter
than it was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than
Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Burt, just a glance at the headers, Burt? Burt, you're in good company,
Burt.
Burt, Thanks, Burt.

Steve - are you one of those pillocks, Steve, who, during a QSO,
Steve, at the start and end of every 'over' (no matter how short,
Steve), gives every participant's callsign - including, Steve, the
full phonetics?

Ian, no, I'm not, Ian. Ian, are you one of those pillocks, Ian, who,
during a QSO, Ian, at the start and end of every 'over' (no matter how
short, Ian), gives every participant's callsign - including, Ian, the
full phonetics, Ian?

Was that cut and pasted - or did you type it out yourself?

Ian, C&P, Ian. Ian, with just a tiny bit, Ian, a tiny bit of
customisation, Ian.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll
Ian, Thanks, Ian.

Don't mention it. It's all part of the service (although gratuities are
always welcome).

Ian, I'm sure your contribution, Ian, will be enjoyed by many, Ian.
Ian, Thanks, Ian.

ffs.fus

[Stephen Thomas Troll]

Post by Kerr-Mudd,John
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 13:23:46 GMT, Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs

(who

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts

have

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson
been fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said
for this NG.

On a six-month rolling total basis, the group is now 75% quieter
than it was. It's called a 'decline'. It's a faster decline than
Usenet in general.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard

of

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Spike

Post by Ian Jackson
English among its non-posting followers.

I don't 'follow' it, just count posts, posters, and threads.

Burt, just a glance at the headers, Burt? Burt, you're in good company,
Burt.
Burt, Thanks, Burt.

Steve - are you one of those pillocks, Steve, who, during a QSO,
Steve, at the start and end of every 'over' (no matter how short,
Steve), gives every participant's callsign - including, Steve, the
full phonetics?

Ian, no, I'm not, Ian. Ian, are you one of those pillocks, Ian, who,
during a QSO, Ian, at the start and end of every 'over' (no matter how
short, Ian), gives every participant's callsign - including, Ian, the
full phonetics, Ian?

Was that cut and pasted - or did you type it out yourself?

Ian, C&P, Ian. Ian, with just a tiny bit, Ian, a tiny bit of
customisation, Ian.

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll
Ian, Thanks, Ian.

Don't mention it. It's all part of the service (although gratuities

are

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Ian Jackson
always welcome).

Ian, I'm sure your contribution, Ian, will be enjoyed by many, Ian.
Ian, Thanks, Ian.

ffs.fus

Kerr, WTFAYOA, Kerr?



Kerr, Thanks, Kerr.

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have been
fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for this NG.

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

BURN! Nice work, Ian.

[Ian Jackson]

In message

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have been
fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for this NG.

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

BURN! Nice work, Ian.

And I also seem to have got away with not making any of my own
grammatical errors in the follow-up (which is the usual fate of
pain-in-the-arse pedants who can't resist pointing out the grammatical
mistakes of others).

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have been
fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for this NG.

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

BURN! Nice work, Ian.

And I also seem to have got away with not making any of my own
grammatical errors in the follow-up (which is the usual fate of
pain-in-the-arse pedants who can't resist pointing out the grammatical
mistakes of others).

very true ...

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by Spike
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time,

As it was formed to cater for the needs of real radio amateurs (who
these days are few and far between), UKRAM has always been a 'quiet'
group. However, with the exception of Jim's, most of the posts have been
fairly well on-topic - which is a lot more than can be said for this NG.

Post by Spike
it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.

"it's"????. Well, it has certainly failed to raise the standard of
English among its non-posting followers.

BURN! Nice work, Ian.

And I also seem to have got away with not making any of my own
grammatical errors in the follow-up (which is the usual fate of
pain-in-the-arse pedants who can't resist pointing out the grammatical
mistakes of others).

Thanks for the retwat, Ian.

[Chronos]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 13:44:13 +0100

(which is the usual fate of pain-in-the-arse pedants who can't resist
pointing out the grammatical mistakes of others)

Az eny fule nose.

(x-post removed, fu set away from unnm²)

[Gareth's Downstairs Computer]

Post by Chronos
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 13:44:13 +0100

(which is the usual fate of pain-in-the-arse pedants who can't resist
pointing out the grammatical mistakes of others)

Az eny fule nose.
(x-post removed, fu set away from unnm²)

Yes a pox on the infantile attention seeking nonce who
originates those unhlpful and pointless cross posts.

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Chronos
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 13:44:13 +0100

(which is the usual fate of pain-in-the-arse pedants who can't resist
pointing out the grammatical mistakes of others)

Az eny fule nose.
(x-post removed, fu set away from unnm²)

Yes a pox on the infantile attention seeking nonce who
originates those unhlpful and pointless cross posts.

Your typing's gone to pot, G. Pissed up or gotten to, OM?

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay
His attempts to try and salvage some dignity from disgrace are pathetic.
Having churned out his dubious reports for years, he has been forced to
conceded that not only are they a joke but no one believes them. He has
been predicting the demise of ukram, the RSGB, and of course, RSGBTech,
for years yet all continue to exist, if not thrive. Meanwhile, the cosy
little group set up by his fellow usual reject is on its last legs.

You could always post your evidence of your claims - but you won't, so
they remain just that, and about as valuable as your intestinal gas
expelled at a Lodge Night dinner.
For UKRAM, we are now only a few days short of the predicted date for
post No. 5000, and are currently >10% below the required number of posts
for that interval. Even your 'no technical knowledge' friend - the one
who shot himself in the foot so many times during his failed attempts to
get the group created, has essentially ceased posting there.
The decline of UKRAM has not only been maintained, but has increased -
and as predicted at the time, it's creation brought Usenet no good at all.
HTH.

it is DEAD

[Bernie]

On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 08:29:42 +0000

Post by Spike
shooting

Thanks for the news, L'il Burty.

[Brian Howie]

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

In the grand scheme of things, we're all doomed to oblivion. ukra isn't
doing too well either, which is a bit of shame. At least the abuse has
subsided, so it could recover.

BTW I see someone has created an RSGBTek group.

https://groups.io/g/RSGBTek

[Gareth's Downstairs Computer]

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

In the grand scheme of things, we're all doomed to oblivion. ukra isn't
doing too well either, which is a bit of shame. At least the abuse has
subsided, so it could recover.
BTW I see someone has created an RSGBTek group.
https://groups.io/g/RSGBTek

Some malicious usual nonce has already subscribed me.

A criminal offence, surely?

Trouble is, I don't know the password to be able to delete the account!

[Brian Howie]

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

In the grand scheme of things, we're all doomed to oblivion. ukra
isn't doing too well either, which is a bit of shame. At least the
abuse has subsided, so it could recover.
BTW I see someone has created an RSGBTek group.
https://groups.io/g/RSGBTek

Some malicious usual nonce has already subscribed me.
A criminal offence, surely?
Trouble is, I don't know the password to be able to delete the account!

It might be an offence under the Computer Misuse Act, if they forged
your e-mail.

There's only one member. Is a group creator a member of the group ? If
we knew the answer, we would know more about the Universe than we do.

Brian

[Brian Reay]

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

In the grand scheme of things, we're all doomed to oblivion. ukra
isn't doing too well either, which is a bit of shame. At least the
abuse has subsided, so it could recover.
BTW I see someone has created an RSGBTek group.
https://groups.io/g/RSGBTek

Some malicious usual nonce has already subscribed me.
A criminal offence, surely?
Trouble is, I don't know the password to be able to delete the account!

It might be an offence under the Computer Misuse Act, if they forged
your e-mail.
There's only one member. Is a group creator a member of the group ? If
we knew the answer, we would know more about the Universe than we do.

Of course the creator is a member, which rather gives the game away.

Not the first attempt to copy the genuine, and successful, group. The
other one was equally dumb.

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

In the grand scheme of things, we're all doomed to oblivion. ukra
isn't doing too well either, which is a bit of shame. At least the
abuse has subsided, so it could recover.
BTW I see someone has created an RSGBTek group.
https://groups.io/g/RSGBTek

Some malicious usual nonce has already subscribed me.
A criminal offence, surely?
Trouble is, I don't know the password to be able to delete the account!

It might be an offence under the Computer Misuse Act, if they forged
your e-mail.
There's only one member. Is a group creator a member of the group ? If
we knew the answer, we would know more about the Universe than we do.

Of course the creator is a member, which rather gives the game away.
Not the first attempt to copy the genuine, and successful, group. The
other one was equally dumb.

How is REALOPS doing these days?

[Brian Reay]

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

In the grand scheme of things, we're all doomed to oblivion. ukra
isn't doing too well either, which is a bit of shame. At least the
abuse has subsided, so it could recover.
BTW I see someone has created an RSGBTek group.
https://groups.io/g/RSGBTek

Some malicious usual nonce has already subscribed me.
A criminal offence, surely?
Trouble is, I don't know the password to be able to delete the account!

It might be an offence under the Computer Misuse Act, if they forged
your e-mail.
There's only one member. Is a group creator a member of the group ? If
we knew the answer, we would know more about the Universe than we do.

Of course the creator is a member, which rather gives the game away.
Not the first attempt to copy the genuine, and successful, group. The
other one was equally dumb.

How is REALOPS doing these days?

1 post in Apr, 1 in May, 6 in Jan. (ie 8 this year). All of which, if
made here, would have attracted an OT comment (or similar) from the
Usual Rejects.

Last year the total number of posts was about 20.

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

In the grand scheme of things, we're all doomed to oblivion. ukra
isn't doing too well either, which is a bit of shame. At least the
abuse has subsided, so it could recover.
BTW I see someone has created an RSGBTek group.
https://groups.io/g/RSGBTek

Some malicious usual nonce has already subscribed me.
A criminal offence, surely?
Trouble is, I don't know the password to be able to delete the account!

It might be an offence under the Computer Misuse Act, if they forged
your e-mail.
There's only one member. Is a group creator a member of the group ? If
we knew the answer, we would know more about the Universe than we do.

Of course the creator is a member, which rather gives the game away.
Not the first attempt to copy the genuine, and successful, group. The
other one was equally dumb.

How is REALOPS doing these days?

1 post in Apr, 1 in May, 6 in Jan. (ie 8 this year). All of which, if
made here, would have attracted an OT comment (or similar) from the
Usual Rejects.
Last year the total number of posts was about 20.

LOL! Poor Old Frank Hunter GI4NKB.

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

In the grand scheme of things, we're all doomed to oblivion. ukra
isn't doing too well either, which is a bit of shame. At least the
abuse has subsided, so it could recover.
BTW I see someone has created an RSGBTek group.
https://groups.io/g/RSGBTek

Some malicious usual nonce has already subscribed me.
A criminal offence, surely?
Trouble is, I don't know the password to be able to delete the account!

It might be an offence under the Computer Misuse Act, if they forged
your e-mail.
There's only one member. Is a group creator a member of the group ? If
we knew the answer, we would know more about the Universe than we do.

Of course the creator is a member, which rather gives the game away.
Not the first attempt to copy the genuine, and successful, group. The
other one was equally dumb.

How is REALOPS doing these days?

1 post in Apr, 1 in May, 6 in Jan. (ie 8 this year). All of which, if
made here, would have attracted an OT comment (or similar) from the
Usual Rejects.
Last year the total number of posts was about 20.

LOL! Poor Old Frank Hunter GI4NKB.

I like Frank a lot ...

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

In the grand scheme of things, we're all doomed to oblivion. ukra
isn't doing too well either, which is a bit of shame. At least the
abuse has subsided, so it could recover.
BTW I see someone has created an RSGBTek group.
https://groups.io/g/RSGBTek

Some malicious usual nonce has already subscribed me.
A criminal offence, surely?
Trouble is, I don't know the password to be able to delete the account!

It might be an offence under the Computer Misuse Act, if they forged
your e-mail.
There's only one member. Is a group creator a member of the group ? If
we knew the answer, we would know more about the Universe than we do.

Of course the creator is a member, which rather gives the game away.
Not the first attempt to copy the genuine, and successful, group. The
other one was equally dumb.

How is REALOPS doing these days?

1 post in Apr, 1 in May, 6 in Jan. (ie 8 this year). All of which, if
made here, would have attracted an OT comment (or similar) from the
Usual Rejects.
Last year the total number of posts was about 20.

LOL! Poor Old Frank Hunter GI4NKB.

I like Frank a lot ...

#lemonparty

[Spike]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole
How is REALOPS doing these days?

1 post in Apr, 1 in May, 6 in Jan. (ie 8 this year). All of which, if
made here, would have attracted an OT comment (or similar) from the
Usual Rejects.
Last year the total number of posts was about 20.

The trouble with RealOps is that it never catered for the 'what sideband
should I be using?' or 'why have my local repeaters gone silent now I'm
licensed?' types. RSGBTech, on the other hand, welcomes such people -
apparently there are plenty about, these days. I put it down to a poor
training scheme.

[Stephen Thomas Troll]

Post by Spike
The trouble with RealOps is that it never catered for the 'what sideband
should I be using?' or 'why have my local repeaters gone silent now I'm
licensed?' types. RSGBTech, on the other hand, welcomes such people -
apparently there are plenty about, these days. I put it down to a poor
training scheme.

Burt, sing us a song about The Waves, Burt. Burt, sing it in language
that only you are clever enough to understand, Burt.


Burt, Thanks, Burt

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole
How is REALOPS doing these days?

1 post in Apr, 1 in May, 6 in Jan. (ie 8 this year). All of which, if
made here, would have attracted an OT comment (or similar) from the
Usual Rejects.
Last year the total number of posts was about 20.

The trouble with RealOps is that it never catered for the 'what sideband
should I be using?' or 'why have my local repeaters gone silent now I'm
licensed?' types. RSGBTech, on the other hand, welcomes such people -
apparently there are plenty about, these days. I put it down to a poor
training scheme.

or class Bs .....

[AndyW]

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

In the grand scheme of things, we're all doomed to oblivion. ukra
isn't doing too well either, which is a bit of shame. At least the
abuse has subsided, so it could recover.
BTW I see someone has created an RSGBTek group.
https://groups.io/g/RSGBTek

Some malicious usual nonce has already subscribed me.
A criminal offence, surely?
Trouble is, I don't know the password to be able to delete the account!

Contact the admin using the email address that was used to subscribe you
which I assume is your email address.

Quote the GDPR and in particular the sections on Valid Consent, Data
security and also that this constitutes a Contravention of 4 of the six
Data Protection Principles namely:

Lawful processing - no consent to create the account therefore
processing is not lawful.
Legitimate collection - account created without your knowledge
Adequate and Relevant - because you are not a member.
Stored only as long as necessary - no longer required.

It may be worth mentioning the fines as an incentive. They can be quite
large but be aware that it can take the DP officer a reasonable time to act.

Andy

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by AndyW

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

In the grand scheme of things, we're all doomed to oblivion. ukra
isn't doing too well either, which is a bit of shame. At least the
abuse has subsided, so it could recover.
BTW I see someone has created an RSGBTek group.
https://groups.io/g/RSGBTek

Some malicious usual nonce has already subscribed me.
A criminal offence, surely?
Trouble is, I don't know the password to be able to delete the account!

Contact the admin using the email address that was used to subscribe you
which I assume is your email address.
Quote the GDPR and in particular the sections on Valid Consent, Data
security and also that this constitutes a Contravention of 4 of the six
Lawful processing - no consent to create the account therefore
processing is not lawful.
Legitimate collection - account created without your knowledge
Adequate and Relevant - because you are not a member.
Stored only as long as necessary - no longer required.
It may be worth mentioning the fines as an incentive. They can be quite
large but be aware that it can take the DP officer a reasonable time to act.
Andy

perhaps they will stand on his head....

[Roger Hayter]

Post by AndyW

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Brian Howie

Post by Spike
This means that not only has the decline continued, but the 20%
shortfall in postings suggests the decline is accelerating, so one can
understand why the data hasn't been demanded and that shooting the
messenger seems the only way forward in the steady march to the group's
oblivion.

In the grand scheme of things, we're all doomed to oblivion. ukra
isn't doing too well either, which is a bit of shame. At least the
abuse has subsided, so it could recover.
BTW I see someone has created an RSGBTek group.
https://groups.io/g/RSGBTek

Some malicious usual nonce has already subscribed me.
A criminal offence, surely?
Trouble is, I don't know the password to be able to delete the account!

Contact the admin using the email address that was used to subscribe you
which I assume is your email address.
Quote the GDPR and in particular the sections on Valid Consent, Data
security and also that this constitutes a Contravention of 4 of the six
Lawful processing - no consent to create the account therefore
processing is not lawful.
Legitimate collection - account created without your knowledge
Adequate and Relevant - because you are not a member.
Stored only as long as necessary - no longer required.
It may be worth mentioning the fines as an incentive. They can be quite
large but be aware that it can take the DP officer a reasonable time to act.
Andy

I doubt if he'll have to do any of that. Just change the password using
his email as confirmation of his ID and once logged in using his email
he can cancel everything. And if he leaves his email registered no-one
will be able to use it again. (Unless he uses a guessable password.)

[AndyW]

Post by Roger Hayter

Post by AndyW
Contact the admin using the email address that was used to subscribe you
which I assume is your email address.
Quote the GDPR and in particular the sections on Valid Consent, Data
security and also that this constitutes a Contravention of 4 of the six
Lawful processing - no consent to create the account therefore
processing is not lawful.
Legitimate collection - account created without your knowledge
Adequate and Relevant - because you are not a member.
Stored only as long as necessary - no longer required.
It may be worth mentioning the fines as an incentive. They can be quite
large but be aware that it can take the DP officer a reasonable time to act.
Andy

I doubt if he'll have to do any of that. Just change the password using
his email as confirmation of his ID and once logged in using his email
he can cancel everything. And if he leaves his email registered no-one
will be able to use it again. (Unless he uses a guessable password.)

Ah yes. That's the sensible option.
I am data controller for a couple of charities so I am currently
head-full of GPRD stuff and went for the complicated option.

Andy

[Stephen Thomas Troll]

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.

Burt, that's OK, Burt. Burt, no one of any substance is providing any
data, either, Burt.


Burt, Thanks, Burt.

[Brian Reay]

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.

Burt, that's OK, Burt. Burt, no one of any substance is providing any
data, either, Burt.
Burt, Thanks, Burt.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data' because he
wanted to. He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

[Stephen Thomas Troll]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.

Burt, that's OK, Burt. Burt, no one of any substance is providing any
data, either, Burt.
Burt, Thanks, Burt.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data' because he
wanted to. He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Brian, well I never, Brian. Brian, I wish I'd bean clever enough to
allude to that, Brian.


Brian, Thanks, Brian.

[Spike]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data' because he
wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data' because he
wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

[mm0fmf]

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data' because he
wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spuke swears he's extremely
gotten to.

[Rambo]

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data' because he
wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spuke swears he's extremely
gotten to.

By your logic .....You must be permanently extremely gotten to.

[Bernie]

On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:14:18 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data' because
he wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spuke swears he's
extremely gotten to.

By your logic .....You must be permanently extremely gotten to.

Now you're just being a silly cunt, Chairman Dick.

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Post by Bernie
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:14:18 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data' because
he wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spuke swears he's
extremely gotten to.

By your logic .....You must be permanently extremely gotten to.

Now you're just being a silly cunt, Chairman Dick.

Handy retwat, though.

[Bernie]

On 8 Jun 2018 19:24:45 GMT

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:14:18 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of
any substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data'
because he wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spuke swears he's
extremely gotten to.

By your logic .....You must be permanently extremely gotten to.

Now you're just being a silly cunt, Chairman Dick.

Handy retwat, though.

Yeah, Burt enjoys a good retwat - it helps fills the gaps between blogs
for the delightful old chap.

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Post by Bernie
On 8 Jun 2018 19:24:45 GMT

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:14:18 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of
any substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data'
because he wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spuke swears he's
extremely gotten to.

By your logic .....You must be permanently extremely gotten to.

Now you're just being a silly cunt, Chairman Dick.

Handy retwat, though.

Yeah, Burt enjoys a good retwat - it helps fills the gaps between blogs
for the delightful old chap.

What with Brian not posting so much lately, it's only blogs and retwats
from Jim and Rich for Burt to mash his gums around. That's some thin gruel.
Poor Old Burt. WASOC.

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On 8 Jun 2018 19:24:45 GMT

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:14:18 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of
any substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data'
because he wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spuke swears he's
extremely gotten to.

By your logic .....You must be permanently extremely gotten to.

Now you're just being a silly cunt, Chairman Dick.

Handy retwat, though.

Yeah, Burt enjoys a good retwat - it helps fills the gaps between blogs
for the delightful old chap.

What with Brian not posting so much lately, it's only blogs and retwats
from Jim and Rich for Burt to mash his gums around. That's some thin gruel.
Poor Old Burt. WASOC.

I miss brian....whatever happened to him must have cost him plenty...tee hee

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On 8 Jun 2018 19:24:45 GMT

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:14:18 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of
any substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data'
because he wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spuke swears he's
extremely gotten to.

By your logic .....You must be permanently extremely gotten to.

Now you're just being a silly cunt, Chairman Dick.

Handy retwat, though.

Yeah, Burt enjoys a good retwat - it helps fills the gaps between blogs
for the delightful old chap.

What with Brian not posting so much lately, it's only blogs and retwats
from Jim and Rich for Burt to mash his gums around. That's some thin gruel.
Poor Old Burt. WASOC.

I miss brian....whatever happened to him must have cost him plenty...tee hee

Thanks for the retwat, Jim.

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On 8 Jun 2018 19:24:45 GMT

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:14:18 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of
any substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data'
because he wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spuke swears he's
extremely gotten to.

By your logic .....You must be permanently extremely gotten to.

Now you're just being a silly cunt, Chairman Dick.

Handy retwat, though.

Yeah, Burt enjoys a good retwat - it helps fills the gaps between blogs
for the delightful old chap.

What with Brian not posting so much lately, it's only blogs and retwats
from Jim and Rich for Burt to mash his gums around. That's some thin gruel.
Poor Old Burt. WASOC.

I miss brian....whatever happened to him must have cost him plenty...tee hee

Thanks for the retwat, Jim.

thanks for being a twat .....

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On 8 Jun 2018 19:24:45 GMT

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:14:18 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of
any substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data'
because he wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spuke swears he's
extremely gotten to.

By your logic .....You must be permanently extremely gotten to.

Now you're just being a silly cunt, Chairman Dick.

Handy retwat, though.

Yeah, Burt enjoys a good retwat - it helps fills the gaps between blogs
for the delightful old chap.

What with Brian not posting so much lately, it's only blogs and retwats
from Jim and Rich for Burt to mash his gums around. That's some thin gruel.
Poor Old Burt. WASOC.

I miss brian....whatever happened to him must have cost him plenty...tee hee

Thanks for the retwat, Jim.

thanks for being a twat .....

we must all do what we are best at ...

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On 8 Jun 2018 19:24:45 GMT

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:14:18 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of
any substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data'
because he wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spuke swears he's
extremely gotten to.

By your logic .....You must be permanently extremely gotten to.

Now you're just being a silly cunt, Chairman Dick.

Handy retwat, though.

Yeah, Burt enjoys a good retwat - it helps fills the gaps between blogs
for the delightful old chap.

What with Brian not posting so much lately, it's only blogs and retwats
from Jim and Rich for Burt to mash his gums around. That's some thin gruel.
Poor Old Burt. WASOC.

I miss brian....whatever happened to him must have cost him plenty...tee hee

Thanks for the retwat, Jim.

thanks for being a twat .....

we must all do what we are best at ...

he must

[Rambo]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 14:07:30 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On 8 Jun 2018 19:24:45 GMT

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:14:18 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of
any substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data'
because he wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spuke swears he's
extremely gotten to.

By your logic .....You must be permanently extremely gotten to.

Now you're just being a silly cunt, Chairman Dick.

Handy retwat, though.

Yeah, Burt enjoys a good retwat - it helps fills the gaps between blogs
for the delightful old chap.

What with Brian not posting so much lately, it's only blogs and retwats
from Jim and Rich for Burt to mash his gums around. That's some thin gruel.
Poor Old Burt. WASOC.

I miss brian....whatever happened to him must have cost him plenty...tee hee

It was well worth it!

[Spike]

Post by Rambo

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
I miss brian....whatever happened to him must have cost him plenty...tee hee

It was well worth it!

It did nothing for his choler - he's still grumpy 24/7. I wonder why?

[Bernie]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 07:50:07 +0000

Post by Spike

Post by Rambo

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
I miss brian....whatever happened to him must have cost him
plenty...tee hee

It was well worth it!

It did nothing for his choler - he's still grumpy 24/7. I wonder why?

There's a lot of it about, Burt.

[Spike]

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Spike
...in the posting stats for UKRAM for May 2018 as no-one of any
substance has asked for the data.

His claim is self-damning. He started posting his 'data' because he
wanted to.

No shit, Sherlock.

Post by Brian Reay
He has just admitted he isn't of any substance.

Ah, your favourite fall-back: lack of English Comprehension.

Burt's swearing; gotten to and rattled.

It's a fact and not an alternative one. When Spike swears he's extremely
gotten to.

By your logic .....You must be permanently extremely gotten to.

It might also suggest that 'Bucket Mouth' Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY
is, among other similar people, in a state of constant meltdown. It's
what happens to those with no Class and no prospect of advancement.

[Bernie]

On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:53:32 +0000

Post by Spike
It might also suggest that 'Bucket Mouth' Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY
is, among other similar people, in a state of constant meltdown. It's
what happens to those with no Class and no prospect of advancement.

OoooOoooOoooOoooOoooOooo!

Someone's had a visit from Mr Grumpypants this morning, Little Burty.

[mm0fmf]

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:53:32 +0000

Post by Spike
It might also suggest that 'Bucket Mouth' Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY
is, among other similar people, in a state of constant meltdown. It's
what happens to those with no Class and no prospect of advancement.

OoooOoooOoooOoooOoooOooo!
Someone's had a visit from Mr Grumpypants this morning, Little Burty.

It's a feeble attempt to reflect the comment regarding his
gotten-to-ness. Some people swear all the time and Spuke only does so
when seriously rattled, the silly old cunt.

[Rambo]

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:53:32 +0000

Post by Spike
It might also suggest that 'Bucket Mouth' Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY
is, among other similar people, in a state of constant meltdown. It's
what happens to those with no Class and no prospect of advancement.

OoooOoooOoooOoooOoooOooo!
Someone's had a visit from Mr Grumpypants this morning, Little Burty.

It's a feeble attempt to reflect the comment regarding his
gotten-to-ness. Some people swear all the time and Spuke only does so
when seriously rattled, the silly old cunt.

QED...... you're not that bright are you?

[Bernie]

On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 12:57:20 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:53:32 +0000

Post by Spike
It might also suggest that 'Bucket Mouth' Stephen Thomas Cole
CB/M0TEY is, among other similar people, in a state of constant
meltdown. It's what happens to those with no Class and no
prospect of advancement.

OoooOoooOoooOoooOoooOooo!
Someone's had a visit from Mr Grumpypants this morning, Little Burty.

It's a feeble attempt to reflect the comment regarding his
gotten-to-ness. Some people swear all the time and Spuke only does
so when seriously rattled, the silly old cunt.

QED...... you're not that bright are you?

One of you C E R T A I N L Y isn't.


Thanks for the retwat, Chairman Dick.

[Stephen Thomas Cole]

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 12:57:20 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:53:32 +0000

Post by Spike
It might also suggest that 'Bucket Mouth' Stephen Thomas Cole
CB/M0TEY is, among other similar people, in a state of constant
meltdown. It's what happens to those with no Class and no
prospect of advancement.

OoooOoooOoooOoooOoooOooo!
Someone's had a visit from Mr Grumpypants this morning, Little Burty.

It's a feeble attempt to reflect the comment regarding his
gotten-to-ness. Some people swear all the time and Spuke only does
so when seriously rattled, the silly old cunt.

QED...... you're not that bright are you?

One of you C E R T A I N L Y isn't.

Rich is FULLY not that bright.

[mm0fmf]

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 12:57:20 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:53:32 +0000

Post by Spike
It might also suggest that 'Bucket Mouth' Stephen Thomas Cole
CB/M0TEY is, among other similar people, in a state of constant
meltdown. It's what happens to those with no Class and no
prospect of advancement.

OoooOoooOoooOoooOoooOooo!
Someone's had a visit from Mr Grumpypants this morning, Little Burty.

It's a feeble attempt to reflect the comment regarding his
gotten-to-ness. Some people swear all the time and Spuke only does
so when seriously rattled, the silly old cunt.

QED...... you're not that bright are you?

One of you C E R T A I N L Y isn't.

Rich is FULLY not that bright.

He's FULLy qualified at telling lies.

[Rambo]

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 09 Jun 2018 12:57:20 +0100

Post by Rambo

Post by mm0fmf

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:53:32 +0000

Post by Spike
It might also suggest that 'Bucket Mouth' Stephen Thomas Cole
CB/M0TEY is, among other similar people, in a state of constant
meltdown. It's what happens to those with no Class and no
prospect of advancement.

OoooOoooOoooOoooOoooOooo!
Someone's had a visit from Mr Grumpypants this morning, Little Burty.

It's a feeble attempt to reflect the comment regarding his
gotten-to-ness. Some people swear all the time and Spuke only does
so when seriously rattled, the silly old cunt.

QED...... you're not that bright are you?

One of you C E R T A I N L Y isn't.

Rich is FULLY not that bright.

He's FULLy qualified at telling lies.

You even make Michael McIntyre look funny.

[Brian Morrison]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:29:38 +0100

Post by Rambo
You even make Michael McIntyre look funny.

I don't believe that's possible.

[Brian Reay]

Post by Brian Morrison
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 22:29:38 +0100

Post by Rambo
You even make Michael McIntyre look funny.

I don't believe that's possible.

More likely to happen than Dick getting a Full licence.

[Brian Reay]

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:53:32 +0000

Post by Spike
It might also suggest that 'Bucket Mouth' Stephen Thomas Cole CB/M0TEY
is, among other similar people, in a state of constant meltdown. It's
what happens to those with no Class and no prospect of advancement.

OoooOoooOoooOoooOoooOooo!
Someone's had a visit from Mr Grumpypants this morning, Little Burty.

He often seems grumpy (well more grumpy) on a Sat morning. I wonder why?

[Guy G4DWV 4X1LT]

On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:36:52 +0100, just as I was about to take a herb,

Post by Brian Reay
He often seems grumpy (well more grumpy) on a Sat morning. I wonder why?

On the lash every Friday night?

[Bernie]

On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 15:36:52 +0100

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 07:53:32 +0000

Post by Spike
It might also suggest that 'Bucket Mouth' Stephen Thomas Cole
CB/M0TEY is, among other similar people, in a state of constant
meltdown. It's what happens to those with no Class and no prospect
of advancement.

OoooOoooOoooOoooOoooOooo!
Someone's had a visit from Mr Grumpypants this morning, Little Burty.

He often seems grumpy (well more grumpy) on a Sat morning. I wonder why?

Dunno. I can see a Bouncing Burt in your future, though.

[Spike]

Post by Brian Reay
He often seems grumpy (well more grumpy) on a Sat morning. I wonder why?

Some people are grumpy 24/7. It seems to affect those who retired early.
I wonder why?

Try getting out more.

[Stephen Thomas Troll]

Post by Spike

Post by Brian Reay
He often seems grumpy (well more grumpy) on a Sat morning. I wonder why?

Some people are grumpy 24/7. It seems to affect those who retired early.
I wonder why?
Try getting out more.

Burt, I think you should stay in more, Burt. Burt, you seem a bit sun
addled, Burt.


Burt, Thanks, Burt.


PS Burt, or get a hat, Burt, a B I G O N E , Burt, for your big head,
Burt.



Burt, Thanks (again), Burt.

[Guy G4DWV 4X1LT]

On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 07:39:56 +0000, just as I was about to take a

Post by Spike
Some people are grumpy 24/7. It seems to affect those who retired early.
I wonder why?

I have always been grumpy. When I read both "Grumpy Old Men" or saw
the TV series, I could tick off everything as it applied to me.

I am especially grumpy at the moment as not worked due to ill-health
for over 3 years and can see light at the end of the tunnel. I LOVE my
day job and miss it terribly, especially as I am good at it even if I
say so myself. My measure is one of the finest dentists in the country
bar none.

[Spike]

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT

Post by Spike
Some people are grumpy 24/7. It seems to affect those who retired early.
I wonder why?

I have always been grumpy. When I read both "Grumpy Old Men" or saw
the TV series, I could tick off everything as it applied to me.
I am especially grumpy at the moment as not worked due to ill-health
for over 3 years and can see light at the end of the tunnel. I LOVE my
day job and miss it terribly, especially as I am good at it even if I
say so myself. My measure is one of the finest dentists in the country
bar none.

I'm sorry to hear about your ill-health, and can only hope that it
passes and you stage a full recovery.

[Guy G4DWV 4X1LT]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 07:48:32 +0000, just as I was about to take a

Post by Spike
I'm sorry to hear about your ill-health, and can only hope that it
passes and you stage a full recovery.

Spike,

That is most kind of you sir. The sentiments are much appreciated.

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 07:39:56 +0000, just as I was about to take a

Post by Spike
Some people are grumpy 24/7. It seems to affect those who retired early.
I wonder why?

I have always been grumpy. When I read both "Grumpy Old Men" or saw
the TV series, I could tick off everything as it applied to me.
I am especially grumpy at the moment as not worked due to ill-health
for over 3 years and can see light at the end of the tunnel. I LOVE my
day job and miss it terribly, especially as I am good at it even if I
say so myself. My measure is one of the finest dentists in the country
bar none.

my dentist was in his mid 50s when he had to stop work when he had a
detached retina....shame he was good ....

[Brian Reay]

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 07:39:56 +0000, just as I was about to take a

Post by Spike
Some people are grumpy 24/7. It seems to affect those who retired early.
I wonder why?

I have always been grumpy. When I read both "Grumpy Old Men" or saw
the TV series, I could tick off everything as it applied to me.
I am especially grumpy at the moment as not worked due to ill-health
for over 3 years and can see light at the end of the tunnel. I LOVE my
day job and miss it terribly, especially as I am good at it even if I
say so myself. My measure is one of the finest dentists in the country
bar none.

my dentist was in his mid 50s when he had to stop work when he had a
detached retina....shame he was good ....

Detached retinas are all too common. According to my optician, along
with cataracts due to the fact people are living longer etc, the chances
we will experience one is quite scary. A friend suffered one a year or
two back. Fortunately, it was treated successfully but it was a long
process- part of which increases the chances of developing cataracts so
they replaced his lense as a precaution. He seems OK now. He was only
about 60 at the time it all started. Even if you don't wear glasses it
is worth having your eyes checked every year.

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 07:39:56 +0000, just as I was about to take a

Post by Spike
Some people are grumpy 24/7. It seems to affect those who retired early.
I wonder why?

I have always been grumpy. When I read both "Grumpy Old Men" or saw
the TV series, I could tick off everything as it applied to me.
I am especially grumpy at the moment as not worked due to ill-health
for over 3 years and can see light at the end of the tunnel. I LOVE my
day job and miss it terribly, especially as I am good at it even if I
say so myself. My measure is one of the finest dentists in the country
bar none.

my dentist was in his mid 50s when he had to stop work when he had a
detached retina....shame he was good ....

Detached retinas are all too common. According to my optician, along
with cataracts due to the fact people are living longer etc, the chances
we will experience one is quite scary. A friend suffered one a year or
two back. Fortunately, it was treated successfully but it was a long
process- part of which increases the chances of developing cataracts so
they replaced his lense as a precaution. He seems OK now. He was only
about 60 at the time it all started. Even if you don't wear glasses it
is worth having your eyes checked every year.

mine had a rugger injury at uni ..... there was hope and he continued
with double vision but he told me he hurt a patient so gave up...he
still drives though .....

[Guy G4DWV 4X1LT]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:53:14 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Brian Reay
Even if you don't wear glasses it
is worth having your eyes checked every year.

Absolutely! Same about going to the dentist. A few years ago, new
guidelines came out for acute allergy sufferers, the ones who have to
carry Epipens/adrenaline. The advice was, basically, that they should
have TWO lots. The number of doctors who did not do that. The only
other bits of the advice is that the second dose should be given about
5-15 mins after the first if still feeling unwell. In all cases, 999
should be dialled and an ambulance called.

I gave my patients a print out of the official advice.

Plus, the number of lives saved by not only spotting oral cancer, the
others found just by taking a history, e.g. a pt who has lost a lot of
weight unintentionally.

[Guy G4DWV 4X1LT]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:59:04 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
my dentist was in his mid 50s when he had to stop work when he had a
detached retina....shame he was good ....

The best dentists do a little as possible, as pain-free as possible,
make the patient laugh (especially the kids) and are not rich.

[Gareth's Downstairs Computer]

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:59:04 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
my dentist was in his mid 50s when he had to stop work when he had a
detached retina....shame he was good ....

The best dentists do a little as possible, as pain-free as possible,
make the patient laugh (especially the kids) and are not rich.

The daily grind? What a bore!

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:59:04 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
my dentist was in his mid 50s when he had to stop work when he had a
detached retina....shame he was good ....

The best dentists do a little as possible, as pain-free as possible,
make the patient laugh (especially the kids) and are not rich.

The daily grind?  What a bore!

you get the drill .....

[Gareth's Downstairs Computer]

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:59:04 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
my dentist was in his mid 50s when he had to stop work when he had a
detached retina....shame he was good ....

The best dentists do a little as possible, as pain-free as possible,
make the patient laugh (especially the kids) and are not rich.

The daily grind?  What a bore!

you get the drill .....

Reminds me of the hippy who refused anaesthetic because ...

... he wanted to transcend dental medication

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:59:04 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
my dentist was in his mid 50s when he had to stop work when he had a
detached retina....shame he was good ....

The best dentists do a little as possible, as pain-free as possible,
make the patient laugh (especially the kids) and are not rich.

The daily grind?  What a bore!

you get the drill .....

Reminds me of the hippy who refused anaesthetic because ...
... he wanted to transcend dental medication

I always refused the injection...

[Guy G4DWV 4X1LT]

On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:04:02 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
I always refused the injection...

Many patients are happy when I offer to do their treatment without
injections. In my time I have even done proper surgical procedures on
people without local anaesthetic. Unfortunately many dentists seem to
insist that an injection is given, even to children.

[Brian Reay]

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:04:02 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
I always refused the injection...

Many patients are happy when I offer to do their treatment without
injections. In my time I have even done proper surgical procedures on
people without local anaesthetic. Unfortunately many dentists seem to
insist that an injection is given, even to children.

Sometimes the injection is worse than the treatment ;-) While the needle
is quite fine, it feels like a drain pipe.

I broke a tooth while on holiday in France a year or two back. We found
a dentist who agreed to see me at short notice the next day, at 8 am on
a Sat. She fixed, gave me an Xray to give to my dentist etc. Total
bill- under 25 Euro.

[Ian Jackson]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:04:02 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
I always refused the injection...

Many patients are happy when I offer to do their treatment without
injections. In my time I have even done proper surgical procedures on
people without local anaesthetic. Unfortunately many dentists seem to
insist that an injection is given, even to children.

Sometimes the injection is worse than the treatment ;-) While the
needle is quite fine, it feels like a drain pipe.
I broke a tooth while on holiday in France a year or two back. We found
a dentist who agreed to see me at short notice the next day, at 8 am
on a Sat. She fixed, gave me an Xray to give to my dentist etc. Total
bill- under 25 Euro.

Before I left home at the age of 21, the local family dentist didn't
really believe that injections were needed (especially when the
new-fangled high-speed drill came out), and I used to dread having
fillings.

The only time I think I had an injection was when I had to have a molar
out. It was painless! [Note: I did actually look after my teeth pretty
well, but apparently they were 'hard on the outside, and soft on the
inside'.]

After that, apart from the most minor of repairs to existing fillings,
the dentists I've had have always given me injections - and (hopefully!)
I shall be having another one tomorrow.

[Jim GM4DHJ ...]

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:04:02 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
I always refused the injection...

Many patients are happy when I offer to do their treatment without
injections. In my time I have even done proper surgical procedures on
people without local anaesthetic. Unfortunately many dentists seem to
insist that an injection is given, even to children.

Sometimes the injection is worse than the treatment ;-) While the needle
is quite fine, it feels like a drain pipe.
I broke a tooth while on holiday in France a year or two back. We found a
dentist who agreed to see me at short notice the next day, at 8 am on a
Sat. She fixed, gave me an Xray to give to my dentist etc. Total bill-
under 25 Euro.

then again if you lived in the states and were on immune suppressants you
would have to dope up with antibiotics before you go to the dentist whereas
over here they don't think it is necessary.....litigation society in the
states is crazy...

[Brian Reay]

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Brian Reay

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 21:04:02 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
I always refused the injection...

Many patients are happy when I offer to do their treatment without
injections. In my time I have even done proper surgical procedures on
people without local anaesthetic. Unfortunately many dentists seem to
insist that an injection is given, even to children.

Sometimes the injection is worse than the treatment ;-) While the needle
is quite fine, it feels like a drain pipe.
I broke a tooth while on holiday in France a year or two back. We found a
dentist who agreed to see me at short notice the next day, at 8 am on a
Sat. She fixed, gave me an Xray to give to my dentist etc. Total bill-
under 25 Euro.

then again if you lived in the states and were on immune suppressants you
would have to dope up with antibiotics before you go to the dentist whereas
over here they don't think it is necessary.....litigation society in the
states is crazy...

There is a reason for, perhaps, needing antibiotics prior to dental
work. Those with certain heart defects are at risk due to the chance of
infection- nothing to do with being in the US etc.

[Stephen Thomas Troll]

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:59:04 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
my dentist was in his mid 50s when he had to stop work when he had a
detached retina....shame he was good ....

The best dentists do a little as possible, as pain-free as possible,
make the patient laugh (especially the kids) and are not rich.

The daily grind?  What a bore!

you get the drill .....

Reminds me of the hippy who refused anaesthetic because ...
... he wanted to transcend dental medication

Gareth, -3dBwit, Gareth.



Gareth, Thanks, Gareth.

[Brian Howie]

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:59:04 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
my dentist was in his mid 50s when he had to stop work when he had a
detached retina....shame he was good ....

The best dentists do a little as possible, as pain-free as possible,
make the patient laugh (especially the kids) and are not rich.

The daily grind?  What a bore!

you get the drill .....

Reminds me of the hippy who refused anaesthetic because ...
... he wanted to transcend dental medication

Gareth, -3dBwit, Gareth.
Gareth, Thanks, Gareth.

(-3dbwit)*2 = -6dBwit Proof that my old schoolteacher was right that
2 halfwits don't make a full wit.

Brian

[Brian Reay]

Post by Stephen Thomas Troll

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

Post by Guy G4DWV 4X1LT
On Mon, 11 Jun 2018 11:59:04 +0100, just as I was about to take a

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...
my dentist was in his mid 50s when he had to stop work when he had a
detached retina....shame he was good ....

The best dentists do a little as possible, as pain-free as possible,
make the patient laugh (especially the kids) and are not rich.

The daily grind?  What a bore!

you get the drill .....

Reminds me of the hippy who refused anaesthetic because ...
... he wanted to transcend dental medication

Gareth, -3dBwit, Gareth.
Gareth, Thanks, Gareth.

(-3dbwit)*2  = -6dBwit   Proof that my old schoolteacher was right that
2 halfwits don't make a full wit.
Brian

Certainly true in the case of Dumbo and his half wit hero.