On May 23, 8:42 pm, "Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)"
Post by Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)Post by curtjester1On May 22, 5:24 pm, "Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)"
Post by Hank Sienzant (AKA Joe Zircon)Post by curtjester1Post by Canuckhttp://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=19228&hl=pennin...
Perfect cover, using a vehicle so common that it would blend in and
not cause suspicion. After all it was the third leading seller behind
Chevy and Ford at the time.
CJ
I'm glad to see someone named King at educationforum pointed out that Ruth
Paine's station wagon was not a Rambler. As John McAdams would say,
another factoid. Btw, John has yet to respond to my post about the clip.
- prwhitmey
There's probably no one more versed on aspects of Ramblers or station
wagons than researcher Richard Bartholomew. His 'article' which is
like a book is online. Byrds, Planes, and an Automobile.
In his conclusion Roger Craig who initiated the Rambler wagon said
that Buddy Walthers went out to the residence and saw a Nash Rambler.
It was only a Chevy when Hosty confirmed it was, and we know how fast
he was in destroy evidence.
I believe there are ties of ownership of C. Smith of UT and his major
influence of LBJ and the Paine title, and of George Gordon Wing who
had a lot of dubious political ties where some interesting JFK
assassination references were unearthed. It's been awhile since I've
read it.
http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/17th_Issue/rambler4....
CJ
Richard Barthomelew wouldn't know a logical point if he tripped over
it.
He thinks the magazines seen in the back of the Rambler might have
some significance.
"It was beginning to seem that there might be some significance to the
display of these particular magazines in this particular Rambler
station wagon with its 1964 turista sticker."
http://www.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/17th_Issue/rambler1.html
He's also the theorist who came up with the "red ripper" theory about
people trying to hide stuff from him, because when he went to his
university library and tried to research something, he sometimes found
the page he was looking for had been scored with a red pen and then
torn from the book or magazine in question.
I find his theories hilarious.
Hilarious.
I don't find a practically worn and thrashed out Rambler found 30 or
40 years later in Mexico that has the JFK assassination in the back
seat,
Hold on. It has *what* in the back seat?
I read *magazines*. You seem to be reading something else into the claim.
"It was beginning to seem that there might be some significance to the
display of these particular magazines in this particular Rambler station
wagon with its 1964 turista sticker."
Post by curtjester1owned by someone that has a political life and leanings, to be
something to be brushed off. It seems eerily, unique, and
unexplainable, except in sinister form.
Hello? An old Rambler with some magazines in the back is unexplainable?
Note he says "display" of these magazines, but nobody was *displaying*
anything. The owner simply didn't bother to clean up, and Bartholomew was
"It was beginning to seem that there might be some significance to the
display of these particular magazines in this particular Rambler station
wagon with its 1964 turista sticker."
And nearly everyone has some political leanings. Left, right, or center.
The man saw a Rambler on the campus of his university. He then decided to
investigate it. He spent years doing so. But there's nothing there that is
evidence of *anything* connected to the JFK assassination.
And you don't seem to realize that.
Neither does he.
It's all just an assumption on his part - which makes it all the more
hilarious.
Hank
No where can it be construed as normal behavior, and everything is
very unusual, very political, very unique, and on the very suspicious
side.
Señor Wing, su Camioneta, y el "Red Ripper" <------ From Batholomew's,
Byrds, Planes, and an Automobile
The interrelationships previously discussed and yet to be discussed in
this paper were not the result of unaided insights on the part of this
paper's author or researchers. They were ascertained by studying what
at first appeared to be a professor's eccentric collection of old
magazines carried in his old car, and random mutilations of books on
the JFK assassination and one rather obscure reference book in the UT
libraries. Upon closer examination, however, patterns began to emerge.
For reasons to be discussed, the mutilations are believed to have been
done by a single individual whom this paper's researchers have dubbed
the "Red Ripper." This section will deal with an apparent combined
purpose behind the eccentricities of George Wing and the mutilations
of the Red Ripper.
To be explored, in this and later sections, are the probable
identification of Wing's Rambler by an eyewitness who seems to
corroborate Wing's background in Florida as predicted by a significant
detail of the mutilations; the probable identity of the Red Ripper;
and possible interpretations of the magazines and books as evidence.
In September 1988, this author began a daily reading program on the
JFK assassination in preparation for the inevitable misinformation
that would dominate media coverage of the twenty-fifth anniversary of
that event. Despite having sporadically kept up with the subject over
the years, large gaps in personal knowledge of the findings of
researchers over the previous ten years was quickly realized. The
reading continued past the anniversary and a learning curve began,
resulting in a progressively greater understanding of the facts and
history of the assassination.
By May 1989, this author was familiar enough with the Roger Craig
story and its implications to take more than a passing glance at
George Wing's old Rambler parked among the late model Honda's and
Toyota's.
Another direct result of the reading program was the attention given,
in the summer of 1989, to the mutilations of Anthony Summers' 1980
edition of Conspiracy. The annoyance of this led to a determined
effort to find what was written on those missing pages.
As mentioned at the beginning of this paper, the missing "John
Martino" pages in Anthony Summers' book were only a minor curiosity
even in 1990 after the discovery of Martino's pre-assassination visit
to Austin. This book was the 1980 edition, which was UT's only copy
prior to the release of the 1989 edition. It was still missing the
pages dealing with Martino in May 1991, despite the fact that these
pages were reported missing in April 1990 and new pages had been "on
order" since May, 9 1990.
When the second mutilation was found (Anson's 1975 book, They've
Killed the President) it was still only a bothersome inconvenience. UT
card catalog records showed a second copy in the Flawn Academic
Center, UT's undergraduate library. That copy of the book was missing,
however, and according to the librarian, had never been checked out.
That indicated it was probably stolen just after being purchased.
It was only with the discovery of a third mutilation, the testimony of
Santos Trafficante in a volume of hearings of the House Select
Committee on Assassinations, that a pattern began to emerge.
The HSCA pages were removed in a way that left marks from a red ball
point pen. The pen had been repeatedly stroked along the gutter of the
book until the page could be easily ripped out. This was the same
technique used in Anson's book and, in blue ink, in the fourth book
discovered: an obscure biographical reference work called The
Directory of American Scholars.
The only reason this book was consulted was because of attempts to
find biographical information about Professor Wing. Wing's name was
not listed, but near where his name would have been was a rectangular
hole in the page that had been cut out using a blue ball point pen.
After consulting an older edition of this same directory it was
suspected that the biography removed from this page (p. 672, sixth
ed., 1974) was that of Nathaniel Weyl, the former OSS operative who
helped expose Alger Hiss.357 Weyl was friends with John Martino358
(subject of the Summers missing pages and a "close friend" of Santos
Trafficante),359 Frank Meyer360 (friend of William F. Buckley, Jr. and
subject of Warren Commission Document 662), and William Pawley,361
who, aside from being a missing pages subject himself, wrote a letter
to the editor of Esquire defending the planners of the Bay of Pigs
invasion.362
That letter was published in George Wing's most prominently displayed
back seat magazine. After receiving an intact copy of the sixth
edition of the directory through an interlibrary loan, the suspicion
that Weyl's biography was the one removed was confirmed.
The next book found was Peter Dale Scott's Crime and Cover-Up. Prior
to discovery of The Fish is Red, Scott's was the most mutilated book.
Once again a red ball point pen had been used.
The sixth book is perhaps the most unusual. It is the only known
foreign language book to be mutilated, Wim J.F. Meiners' De
Moordfabriek: Tussen Dallas En Watergate. Little is known about this
book due to lack of access to Dutch translation services. It was
determined much later that its missing pages included a photo section.
No major significance between the photos and other aspects of the UT
mysteries has been found. However, there are portraits of the
Watergate burglars, who seem to have been of special interest to the
Red Ripper. But still, this book may not be related to the others
since there was no red ink. And the book was poorly bound which could
have easily resulted in the loss of pages. There is one fact that
makes it worth considering. The Dutch journalist, Willem Oltmans, who
is referred to on one of this book's missing pages, had not only
visited de Mohrenschildt just prior to his death, but was also talking
to Manuel Artime and William Pawley at the time of their deaths.
Artime and Pawley are prime subjects of other missing pages.363
Missing pages from The Fish is Red, again with traces of red ink along
the gutter, also included the photo section. Since it was not known at
this time that De Moordfabriek had a photo section, this was
considered the first photo section removed. It was predicted,
therefore, that there might be a significant photograph removed from
this book. A second, intact, copy of this book was soon obtained from
UT's Benson Latin American Collection. A quick perusal of the photos
revealed no obvious connection to UT, or to George Wing and his
station wagon.
A closer look, however, revealed what may be the most significant link
of all between Wing and the JFK assassination: a 1961 photo of a man
wearing a turtle-neck shirt, in Little Havana, Miami who looks like a
young George Gordon Wing. He is pictured with a group of men being
recruited by E. Howard Hunt for the Bay of Pigs invasion. Attempts
were made to obtain an enlarged print of this photograph from its
photographer, Andrew St. George. He has not responded to this author's
request to purchase his photographs.
With the chilling discoveries of the Weyl biography and possible Wing
photo mutilations, an effort began not only to analyze the known
missing pages but to search the campus libraries for others. This led
to the first indications of patterns in the contents of the various
books as well as the discovery of the remaining books.
The study and analysis of the missing pages has proven to be a lengthy
and time-consuming project. The findings concerning them are beyond
the scope this paper. A thorough analysis of the missing pages would
require another paper of considerable length. For researchers who
would like to attempt their own analysis and critique, however, a
complete list of the books, their missing pages and their discovery
dates, as well as the back seat magazines, can be found in this
paper's appendix. This paper will deal with some significant aspects
of the missing pages that led to a greater understanding of the
interrelationships previously discussed and yet to be discussed.
end
CJ