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2006-08-30 07:25:49 UTC
Jesus Was King Tut?
(Conspiracy Nation, 08/30/06) -- This may not sit well. There is
persuasive evidence that Jesus, not historically present during the
time of Herod and Pontius Pilate, in fact existed centuries earlier.
Ahmed Osman, in his book, Jesus In The House Of The Pharaohs (ISBN:
1-59143-027-5), emphasizes that he approaches the subject from an
historical, not a theological, perspective.
The Bible began as an oral tradition, later written down. Further
distortion occurred due to disparate sources, for example an "Elohistic
source" and a "Jehovistic source." The Biblical narrative is therefore
confusing. Lurking within are actual happenings, hidden "between the
lines."
Usually, writes Osman, Egyptian history tends to be squeezed into a
Biblical framework. He has taken a different approach, fitting the
Bible into Egyptian history.
In 1947, the Dead Sea Scrolls, remains of an Essene library, were
found. The Scrolls are now under the control of the Israeli Antiquity
Department. For over fifty years now, most of the contents of these
Scrolls remain unpublished. Why? There is the hint of a cover-up. Could
photos of the Scrolls' contents, at least, be made available to the
public? The Israeli government has formed a committee to look into the
request.
In 1922, Howard Carter had recovered documents from the newly
discovered tomb of King Tutankhamun. Whatever those papyri had to say
is not known to us. They, like the Dead Sea Scrolls, remain closeted.
The King Tut papyri gave Carter leverage, however, when dealing with
Egyptian bureaucrats. Whatever their contents, there was apprehension
lest Carter might let such be known. (See "Curse Of King Tut,"
http://www.shout.net/~bigred/KingTut.html)
The Dead Sea Scrolls pre-date the Biblical Jesus. These Essene texts
tell of a Christ and a Christian Church dating to before 200 B.C. They
relate the story of a "Teacher of Righteousness" who had been killed by
"the Wicked Priest." The word "Essene" itself is from "Essa," the
Arabic name of Jesus.
The Jews have Jesus (Yeshu in the Talmud, also called Balaam and Ben
Pandira) as a "Nazarene" who "practised magic" in Egypt. (b. Sanh.
107b). "Nazarene" does not mean "of Nazareth" but rather means
belonging to a particular gnostic sect. Also known as Ben Pandira,
Jesus in other words was the son of Pandira, who may have been the
lover, not the husband, of Mary. According to Osman, the Rabbinical
writings nowhere place the execution of Jesus during the Herodian era.
A different author, James D. Tabor, suggests "Pandira" was actually a
Roman soldier named Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera. He may have raped
Mary, or may have been redeployed elsewhere before he could be married
to her. "Mary might well have become pregnant first, and her engagement
then subsequently arranged by the family and accepted by Joseph with
knowledge of the situation." (The Jesus Dynasty. Simon & Schuster,
2006)
But Jesus ben Pandira (son of Pandira) was, according to Osman, born
much earlier than the heretofore presumed time, thus eliminating
Pantera as the biological sire. The Gospel of Matthew (1:1) is much
truer than realized: Jesus, "the son of David, the son of Abraham" is a
lineage existing as stated, within a limited time frame. This
necessarily places the actual Jesus circa 1400 B.C.
The true story of Jesus was adapted into the later, Roman period, if
Osman's theory is correct. (Participating in the adaptation was Roman
sycophant Flavius Josephus. See "Gospel Of Titus,"
http://www.shout.net/~bigred/Titus.html) The Talmud reportedly has
neither Rome nor Pontius Pilate as the killer of Yeshua, but Pinhas, an
Israelite priest and contemporary of Moses. "Pinhas... killed him
[Jesus]." (b. Sanh. 106b) Pinhas is, in other words Phinehas, son of
Eleazar, the son of Aaron. He, therefore, is the Essene's "Wicked
Priest." In the Egyptian perspective, he is Panehesy, High Priest of
the Aten at the Amarna Temple.
In "Where Is Akhenaten?"
(http://www.shout.net/~bigred/Ankhenaten.html), Moses is identified as
Amenhotep IV, i.e. Akhenaten.
In "Mystery Of Yuya and Tuya"
(http://www.shout.net/~bigred/YuyaTuya.html), the Biblical Joseph of
the "Coat of Many Colors," sold into Egyptian slavery by his jealous
brothers, is shown to be Yuya, vizier to the Pharaoh. An obvious
connection was at first missed by Conspiracy Nation. Joseph, made
"father to Pharaoh," was in other words "father-in-law to Pharaoh,"
since his daughter Tiye married Amenhotep III.
Also in "Mystery Of Yuya and Tuya," the story of Abraham and Sarah in
Egypt was reconsidered. Isaac, Sarah's son, had been fathered by the
Pharaoh. Abraham was not Isaac's father. His real father was Tuthmosis
III, i.e., David.
The Biblical David, identified as Tuthmosis III (1490-1436 B.C.), is
derived from dwd in the Bible, which becomes twt, Tuth, in Egyptian.
Tuthmosis III marched with his army into what is today known as the
Holy Land. They carried with them an Ark, containing the image of
Tuthmosis III's "father," Amun, an Egyptian god. (The "Amen" with which
various faiths conclude their prayers is traced to the Egyptian Amun.)
Enemies of Tuthmosis III, under the King of Qadesh, were entrenched at
Har Meggiddon. There, David (Tuthmosis III) scored a brilliant
battlefield victory. The enemy retreated inside the fortress of Har
Meggiddon. A lengthy siege began.
Tuthmosis III and his guards retired to a "fortress to the east" --
Jerusalem, the "City of David." David (Tuth) purchased the threshing
floor of Mount Moriah, paying 50 shekels of silver. There he built, not
"an altar for the Lord," but a shrine for Amun-Ra, whose image was
carried in the Ark.
"Solomon," for whom there is no historical record, was great-grandson
of "David." Solomon was, in other words, Amenhotep III.
Joshua (Tutankhamun) proceeded from the conjugal union of Amun-Ra and
the consort of the Pharaoh. He is therefore, like other Pharaohs, the
"Son of God." Nefertiti, his mother, is "Mary," from the Egyptian mery,
meaning "the beloved."
Aye (Ephraim) warned Amenhotep IV (Akhenaten/Moses) about discontent
resulting from his promotion of Aten worship. Aten, a monotheistic god,
had pushed aside Amun, whose loyal followers were furious about it.
There was a plot to assassinate Akhenaten (Moses), and so he fled to
Sinai.
Tutankhamun (Yeshua, Joshua, Jesus) served as Pharaoh while his father
yet lived. Under King Tut, Amun worship was again permitted. Tut
(Jesus) hoped to gradually woo the "gentiles" to the new Aten faith.
A few years thereafter, Tutankhamun (Yeshua) journeyed to Sinai. He
hoped to persuade his father, Akhenaten (Moses) to return to Egypt. He
promoted his compromise plan to Akhenaten, whereby worship of Amun was
permitted. But upon hearing this, Pinhas (Phineas), the "Wicked
Priest," became furious. Outraged that King Tut (Jesus) had "betrayed
the faith," Pinhas, High Priest of Aten, slew or caused to be slain the
"Son of God."
Tutankhamun (Jesus) may have died at the foot of Mount Sinai, site of
today's St. Catherine monastery.
-------
Conspiracy Nation
http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html
(Conspiracy Nation, 08/30/06) -- This may not sit well. There is
persuasive evidence that Jesus, not historically present during the
time of Herod and Pontius Pilate, in fact existed centuries earlier.
Ahmed Osman, in his book, Jesus In The House Of The Pharaohs (ISBN:
1-59143-027-5), emphasizes that he approaches the subject from an
historical, not a theological, perspective.
The Bible began as an oral tradition, later written down. Further
distortion occurred due to disparate sources, for example an "Elohistic
source" and a "Jehovistic source." The Biblical narrative is therefore
confusing. Lurking within are actual happenings, hidden "between the
lines."
Usually, writes Osman, Egyptian history tends to be squeezed into a
Biblical framework. He has taken a different approach, fitting the
Bible into Egyptian history.
In 1947, the Dead Sea Scrolls, remains of an Essene library, were
found. The Scrolls are now under the control of the Israeli Antiquity
Department. For over fifty years now, most of the contents of these
Scrolls remain unpublished. Why? There is the hint of a cover-up. Could
photos of the Scrolls' contents, at least, be made available to the
public? The Israeli government has formed a committee to look into the
request.
In 1922, Howard Carter had recovered documents from the newly
discovered tomb of King Tutankhamun. Whatever those papyri had to say
is not known to us. They, like the Dead Sea Scrolls, remain closeted.
The King Tut papyri gave Carter leverage, however, when dealing with
Egyptian bureaucrats. Whatever their contents, there was apprehension
lest Carter might let such be known. (See "Curse Of King Tut,"
http://www.shout.net/~bigred/KingTut.html)
The Dead Sea Scrolls pre-date the Biblical Jesus. These Essene texts
tell of a Christ and a Christian Church dating to before 200 B.C. They
relate the story of a "Teacher of Righteousness" who had been killed by
"the Wicked Priest." The word "Essene" itself is from "Essa," the
Arabic name of Jesus.
The Jews have Jesus (Yeshu in the Talmud, also called Balaam and Ben
Pandira) as a "Nazarene" who "practised magic" in Egypt. (b. Sanh.
107b). "Nazarene" does not mean "of Nazareth" but rather means
belonging to a particular gnostic sect. Also known as Ben Pandira,
Jesus in other words was the son of Pandira, who may have been the
lover, not the husband, of Mary. According to Osman, the Rabbinical
writings nowhere place the execution of Jesus during the Herodian era.
A different author, James D. Tabor, suggests "Pandira" was actually a
Roman soldier named Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera. He may have raped
Mary, or may have been redeployed elsewhere before he could be married
to her. "Mary might well have become pregnant first, and her engagement
then subsequently arranged by the family and accepted by Joseph with
knowledge of the situation." (The Jesus Dynasty. Simon & Schuster,
2006)
But Jesus ben Pandira (son of Pandira) was, according to Osman, born
much earlier than the heretofore presumed time, thus eliminating
Pantera as the biological sire. The Gospel of Matthew (1:1) is much
truer than realized: Jesus, "the son of David, the son of Abraham" is a
lineage existing as stated, within a limited time frame. This
necessarily places the actual Jesus circa 1400 B.C.
The true story of Jesus was adapted into the later, Roman period, if
Osman's theory is correct. (Participating in the adaptation was Roman
sycophant Flavius Josephus. See "Gospel Of Titus,"
http://www.shout.net/~bigred/Titus.html) The Talmud reportedly has
neither Rome nor Pontius Pilate as the killer of Yeshua, but Pinhas, an
Israelite priest and contemporary of Moses. "Pinhas... killed him
[Jesus]." (b. Sanh. 106b) Pinhas is, in other words Phinehas, son of
Eleazar, the son of Aaron. He, therefore, is the Essene's "Wicked
Priest." In the Egyptian perspective, he is Panehesy, High Priest of
the Aten at the Amarna Temple.
In "Where Is Akhenaten?"
(http://www.shout.net/~bigred/Ankhenaten.html), Moses is identified as
Amenhotep IV, i.e. Akhenaten.
In "Mystery Of Yuya and Tuya"
(http://www.shout.net/~bigred/YuyaTuya.html), the Biblical Joseph of
the "Coat of Many Colors," sold into Egyptian slavery by his jealous
brothers, is shown to be Yuya, vizier to the Pharaoh. An obvious
connection was at first missed by Conspiracy Nation. Joseph, made
"father to Pharaoh," was in other words "father-in-law to Pharaoh,"
since his daughter Tiye married Amenhotep III.
Also in "Mystery Of Yuya and Tuya," the story of Abraham and Sarah in
Egypt was reconsidered. Isaac, Sarah's son, had been fathered by the
Pharaoh. Abraham was not Isaac's father. His real father was Tuthmosis
III, i.e., David.
The Biblical David, identified as Tuthmosis III (1490-1436 B.C.), is
derived from dwd in the Bible, which becomes twt, Tuth, in Egyptian.
Tuthmosis III marched with his army into what is today known as the
Holy Land. They carried with them an Ark, containing the image of
Tuthmosis III's "father," Amun, an Egyptian god. (The "Amen" with which
various faiths conclude their prayers is traced to the Egyptian Amun.)
Enemies of Tuthmosis III, under the King of Qadesh, were entrenched at
Har Meggiddon. There, David (Tuthmosis III) scored a brilliant
battlefield victory. The enemy retreated inside the fortress of Har
Meggiddon. A lengthy siege began.
Tuthmosis III and his guards retired to a "fortress to the east" --
Jerusalem, the "City of David." David (Tuth) purchased the threshing
floor of Mount Moriah, paying 50 shekels of silver. There he built, not
"an altar for the Lord," but a shrine for Amun-Ra, whose image was
carried in the Ark.
"Solomon," for whom there is no historical record, was great-grandson
of "David." Solomon was, in other words, Amenhotep III.
Joshua (Tutankhamun) proceeded from the conjugal union of Amun-Ra and
the consort of the Pharaoh. He is therefore, like other Pharaohs, the
"Son of God." Nefertiti, his mother, is "Mary," from the Egyptian mery,
meaning "the beloved."
Aye (Ephraim) warned Amenhotep IV (Akhenaten/Moses) about discontent
resulting from his promotion of Aten worship. Aten, a monotheistic god,
had pushed aside Amun, whose loyal followers were furious about it.
There was a plot to assassinate Akhenaten (Moses), and so he fled to
Sinai.
Tutankhamun (Yeshua, Joshua, Jesus) served as Pharaoh while his father
yet lived. Under King Tut, Amun worship was again permitted. Tut
(Jesus) hoped to gradually woo the "gentiles" to the new Aten faith.
A few years thereafter, Tutankhamun (Yeshua) journeyed to Sinai. He
hoped to persuade his father, Akhenaten (Moses) to return to Egypt. He
promoted his compromise plan to Akhenaten, whereby worship of Amun was
permitted. But upon hearing this, Pinhas (Phineas), the "Wicked
Priest," became furious. Outraged that King Tut (Jesus) had "betrayed
the faith," Pinhas, High Priest of Aten, slew or caused to be slain the
"Son of God."
Tutankhamun (Jesus) may have died at the foot of Mount Sinai, site of
today's St. Catherine monastery.
-------
Conspiracy Nation
http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html