A Test for young people

[Stormin Mormon]

Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!

1. What is a record player?

2. What is a dial telephone?

3. Who were the Beatles?

4. What is an 8-track tape player?

5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?

6. What is inflation?

7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

8. What was the draft?

9. How were things done before computers?

10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

[Jules]

Post by Stormin Mormon
1. What is a record player?

Yeah, I doubt my kids have ever even seen one - even audio cassettes are
a rarity.

Post by Stormin Mormon
4. What is an 8-track tape player?

I don't think I ever saw one of those until I came to the US - I'm not
sure they were ever 'big' anywhere else. I did once have an answerphone
that had a built-in 1/4" reel-to-reel tape deck...

Post by Stormin Mormon
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

I remember our boy getting into our '67 truck for the first time
last year and looking around for the switch to operate the electric
windows... funny how people come to rely on technology.

Post by Stormin Mormon
8. What was the draft?

Isn't a draft an initial release of something, before you work out how to
do it properly? ;)

Post by Stormin Mormon
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

Cell phones seem to be the current thing - our three kids are 8, 10 and
11, and everyone of that age at their schools seems completely obsessed
with owning a cell phone, and holds an unshakable belief that they can't
possibly do without one. It's all a little depressing, somehow.

cheers

Jules

[Lp1331 1p1331]

I remember about 10 years ago, I was at a station putting Diesel in the
Olds 98 I had, and the young girl clerk came running outside yelling
"Sir, that is Diesel you are putting in, not gas" Told her" yep, that's
what it takes" She couldn't believe it. I admit I gotta give her credit
for being observant and helpful.

[Lp1331 1p1331]

11. How many square feet is a room that is 10'x10', or how much is 10%
of 100--without a calculator.
A while back, I was reading one of the humor pages in a Reader's
Digest,and a teacher had given a test question: The War of 1812 was
between ______ and _____. One answer was--1811 1813.

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:50:54 -0600, Jules

Post by Stormin Mormon
1. What is a record player?

How about a disc RECORDER,
Or a Player Piano?

Post by Stormin Mormon
4. What is an 8-track tape player?

How about a "cassette" recorder that used Cassettes about 6X8 inches
with the wide dape like used on the old real to real? Made by RCA

Post by Stormin Mormon
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

I pumped hundreds of thousands of gallons at 46.9 cents - and with the
inevitable gas wars of the late sicties I bought more than one tank
full for less than 11 cents per gallon.

Post by Stormin Mormon
8. What was the draft?

Isn't that what you get when a window or door doesn't seal properly??

Post by Stormin Mormon
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

Snail Mail
Had a parcel sent to me in Africa in the seventies, preceded by an air
mail letter. The parcel arrived in 2 days, while the air-mail letter
took several weeks - - - - -.

[Mark Lloyd]

[snip]

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca

Post by Stormin Mormon
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

Snail Mail
Had a parcel sent to me in Africa in the seventies, preceded by an air
mail letter. The parcel arrived in 2 days, while the air-mail letter
took several weeks - - - - -.

In 2007, I tried to contact the owner of the house behind me (on the
same block). I mailed a letter to that address (even though the house
was vacant, someone might be getting the mail). The letter was
returned as undeliverable, early in 2010.

[mm]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:42:17 -0600, Mark Lloyd

Post by Mark Lloyd
[snip]

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca

Post by Stormin Mormon
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

Snail Mail
Had a parcel sent to me in Africa in the seventies, preceded by an air
mail letter. The parcel arrived in 2 days, while the air-mail letter
took several weeks - - - - -.

In 2007, I tried to contact the owner of the house behind me (on the
same block). I mailed a letter to that address (even though the house
was vacant, someone might be getting the mail). The letter was
returned as undeliverable, early in 2010.

Boy, they really tried hard to deliver it!

[Mr.Spock]

Post by mm
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:42:17 -0600, Mark Lloyd

Post by Mark Lloyd
[snip]

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca

Post by Stormin Mormon
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

Snail Mail
Had a parcel sent to me in Africa in the seventies, preceded by an air
mail letter. The parcel arrived in 2 days, while the air-mail letter
took several weeks - - - - -.

In 2007, I tried to contact the owner of the house behind me (on the
same block). I mailed a letter to that address (even though the house
was vacant, someone might be getting the mail). The letter was
returned as undeliverable, early in 2010.

Boy, they really tried hard to deliver it!

Probably sat in the mailbox all that time.

[mm]

Post by Mr.Spock

Post by mm
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:42:17 -0600, Mark Lloyd

Post by Mark Lloyd
[snip]

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca

Post by Stormin Mormon
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

Snail Mail
Had a parcel sent to me in Africa in the seventies, preceded by an air
mail letter. The parcel arrived in 2 days, while the air-mail letter
took several weeks - - - - -.

In 2007, I tried to contact the owner of the house behind me (on the
same block). I mailed a letter to that address (even though the house
was vacant, someone might be getting the mail). The letter was
returned as undeliverable, early in 2010.

Boy, they really tried hard to deliver it!

Probably sat in the mailbox all that time.

I'm sure they were out there every week looking for the people who
lived there. Probably referred it to the Inspector General to find
them.

[KC]

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca

Post by Stormin Mormon
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

I pumped hundreds of thousands of gallons at 46.9 cents - and with the
inevitable gas wars of the late sicties I bought more than one tank
full for less than 11 cents per gallon.

And for each 5gal purchase you got free glasses or plates.
I think I still have a few of those glasses in my cupboard.

[g***@aol.com]

Post by KC

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca

Post by Stormin Mormon
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

I pumped hundreds of thousands of gallons at 46.9 cents - and with the
inevitable gas wars of the late sicties I bought more than one tank
full for less than 11 cents per gallon.

And for each 5gal purchase you got free glasses or plates.
I think I still have a few of those glasses in my cupboard.

Our egg nog glasses are from the Shell Oil Christmas collection.

[Stormin Mormon]

I can't remember what brand. Free screw driver with 8 gal
fill up. I still have a couple of them.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"KC" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:f483e0b5-fc5f-4252-b3a1-***@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...

And for each 5gal purchase you got free glasses or plates.
I think I still have a few of those glasses in my cupboard.

[s***@dog.com]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:29:26 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"

Post by Stormin Mormon
I can't remember what brand. Free screw driver with 8 gal
fill up. I still have a couple of them.

Good for you. Enjoy them.

[Bob Villa]

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
I pumped hundreds of thousands of gallons at 46.9 cents - and with the

inevitable gas wars of the late sixties I bought more than one tank
full for less than 11 cents per gallon.

I remember when gas was around 20c/gal (55+yrs ago) late fifties and
there was a gas war, the lowest being 12.9 cents. Your recollection
is hard to believe!

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
I remember our boy getting into our '67 truck for the first time

last year and looking around for the switch to operate the electric
windows... funny how people come to rely on technology.

I've heard of people being in tears because they couldn't unlock their
car (dead fob battery). A passerby helped by taking their keys and
unlocking the door.

bob

[s***@dog.com]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:51:00 -0800 (PST), Bob Villa

Post by Bob Villa

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
I pumped hundreds of thousands of gallons at 46.9 cents - and with the

inevitable gas wars of the late sixties I bought more than one tank
full for less than 11 cents per gallon.
I remember when gas was around 20c/gal (55+yrs ago) late fifties and
there was a gas war, the lowest being 12.9 cents. Your recollection
is hard to believe!

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
I remember our boy getting into our '67 truck for the first time

last year and looking around for the switch to operate the electric
windows... funny how people come to rely on technology.
I've heard of people being in tears because they couldn't unlock their
car (dead fob battery). A passerby helped by taking their keys and
unlocking the door.
bob

We had a 1949 Mercury convertible with power windows. I think they may
have been vacuum powered. They weren't terribly reliable.

The Toyota Rav4 that I use as a "land dinghy" for my sailboat only has
a keyhole in the driver's door.

[Bob Villa]

Post by s***@dog.com
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:51:00 -0800 (PST), Bob Villa

Post by Bob Villa

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
I pumped hundreds of thousands of gallons at 46.9 cents - and with the

inevitable gas wars of the late sixties I bought more than one tank
full for less than 11 cents per gallon.
I remember when gas was around 20c/gal (55+yrs ago) late fifties and
there was a gas war, the lowest being 12.9 cents.  Your recollection
is hard to believe!

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
I remember our boy getting into our '67 truck for the first time

last year and looking around for the switch to operate the electric
windows... funny how people come to rely on technology.
I've heard of people being in tears because they couldn't unlock their
car (dead fob battery).  A passerby helped by taking their keys and
unlocking the door.
bob

We had a 1949 Mercury convertible with power windows. I think they may
have been vacuum powered. They weren't terribly reliable.
The Toyota Rav4 that I use as a "land dinghy" for my sailboat only has
a keyhole in the driver's door.

My dad had a '49 Merc...you could change the AM radio station by a
foot-switch! Very cool!

[Stormin Mormon]

I've resolved not to ever buy such a mostrosity.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


<***@dog.com> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

The Toyota Rav4 that I use as a "land dinghy" for my
sailboat only has
a keyhole in the driver's door.

[s***@dog.com]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:31:59 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"

Post by Stormin Mormon
I've resolved not to ever buy such a mostrosity.

I guess that's an easy vow to make when you can't afford to buy one.

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:51:00 -0800 (PST), Bob Villa

Post by Bob Villa

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
I pumped hundreds of thousands of gallons at 46.9 cents - and with the

inevitable gas wars of the late sixties I bought more than one tank
full for less than 11 cents per gallon.
I remember when gas was around 20c/gal (55+yrs ago) late fifties and
there was a gas war, the lowest being 12.9 cents. Your recollection
is hard to believe!

In Fergus Ontario, back in 1969 or 1970, one gas station actually PAID
people to put gas in their tanks one day, to show how ridiculous the
gas war situation was.

And we are talking TINY Canadian cents for BIG Canadian Gallons,
too!!!!!

Post by Bob Villa

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
I remember our boy getting into our '67 truck for the first time

last year and looking around for the switch to operate the electric
windows... funny how people come to rely on technology.
I've heard of people being in tears because they couldn't unlock their
car (dead fob battery). A passerby helped by taking their keys and
unlocking the door.
bob

[mm]

Post by s***@dog.com
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:51:00 -0800 (PST), Bob Villa

Post by Bob Villa

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
I pumped hundreds of thousands of gallons at 46.9 cents - and with the

inevitable gas wars of the late sixties I bought more than one tank
full for less than 11 cents per gallon.
I remember when gas was around 20c/gal (55+yrs ago) late fifties and
there was a gas war, the lowest being 12.9 cents. Your recollection
is hard to believe!

In Fergus Ontario, back in 1969 or 1970, one gas station actually PAID
people to put gas in their tanks one day, to show how ridiculous the
gas war situation was.
And we are talking TINY Canadian cents for BIG Canadian Gallons,
too!!!!!

But if they're paying the customers, that works in the gas station's
favor!

Post by s***@dog.com

Post by Bob Villa

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
I remember our boy getting into our '67 truck for the first time

last year and looking around for the switch to operate the electric
windows... funny how people come to rely on technology.
I've heard of people being in tears because they couldn't unlock their
car (dead fob battery). A passerby helped by taking their keys and
unlocking the door.
bob

[Mark Lloyd]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 04:51:00 -0800 (PST), Bob Villa
<***@gmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

Post by Bob Villa
I've heard of people being in tears because they couldn't unlock their
car (dead fob battery). A passerby helped by taking their keys and
unlocking the door.
bob

I knew someone who had a problem because she had gotten too used to
the electric car door locks. She had left a door open all night, so
the battery was low. She got in the next morning and closed the door.
When she turned the key, the doors locked but the car wouldn't start.
She stayed in that car for several hours because the battery was now
too weak to unlock the doors.

[Steve B]

Post by Bob Villa
I've heard of people being in tears because they couldn't unlock their
car (dead fob battery). A passerby helped by taking their keys and
unlocking the door.
bob

People get into a tizzy during stressful times, and don't think clearly.
When my daughter was about four, I left her in the truck while I went in and
paid for the gas. Small rural place. Thirty years ago. Different times
and place. Left the keys in the truck. When I came back, she had playfully
locked the doors. I was in a panic, and all sorts of ideas from building a
slim Jim to busting out the window to being angry with her for locking the
doors. Then I thought, "Smile and have her UNLOCK the doors."

I said, "You know how to lock them. Can you unlock them?" She did, and
after that, I took my keys with me.

Steve

[unknown]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:17:49 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?

Plays vinyl audio albums.

Post by Stormin Mormon
2. What is a dial telephone?

Called a rotary dial phone otherwise.

Post by Stormin Mormon
3. Who were the Beatles?

British pop group of the 60's, 70's and 80's. I have
their Anthology CD set.

Post by Stormin Mormon
4. What is an 8-track tape player?

Plays an endless loop tape with 4 stereo tracks. Antiquated
with the introduction of the compact cassette and subsequently
the CD.

Post by Stormin Mormon
5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?

Ranking most deaths on top with 1 million or greater deaths:

a. WW2
b. WW1
c. Korean
d. Chinese Civil War
e. Vietnam

Post by Stormin Mormon
6. What is inflation?

Depends on what you are inflating

Post by Stormin Mormon
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

$1.00 / gal

Post by Stormin Mormon
8. What was the draft?

In what context?

Post by Stormin Mormon
9. How were things done before computers?

What things?

Post by Stormin Mormon
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

Used the USPS.


Answers provided by 17 year old Jeff The Drunk Jr.

[s***@dog.com]

Post by unknown
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 10:17:49 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?

Plays vinyl audio albums.

Post by Stormin Mormon
2. What is a dial telephone?

Called a rotary dial phone otherwise.

Post by Stormin Mormon
3. Who were the Beatles?

British pop group of the 60's, 70's and 80's. I have
their Anthology CD set.

Wrong!

[Steve B]

Post by unknown
British pop group of the 60's, 70's and 80's.

Nice try.

The saying goes, "If you can remember the sixties, you weren't there."

Steve, graduated HS in '66. Everything foggy since then.

[s***@dog.com]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 19:09:50 -0800, "Steve B"

Post by Steve B

Post by unknown
British pop group of the 60's, 70's and 80's.

Nice try.
The saying goes, "If you can remember the sixties, you weren't there."
Steve, graduated HS in '66. Everything foggy since then.

You didn't leave enough of the post you replied to, to make your post
coherent, Steve.

I wasn't the one who said, "British pop group of the 60's, 70's and
80's"

So no one, including me, knows what you are on about.

[Percival P. Cassidy]

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the answers!
1. What is a record player?

Plays vinyl audio albums.

Vinyl? Which world are you living in? Real record players play shellac
discs. We had one my father bought at an auction that even had with it
some old Columbia discs that were recorded at 80rpm -- and the player
had a setting for that.

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

$1.00 / gal

79 cents a gallon on Long Island, NY in 1998 or thereabouts.

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
9. How were things done before computers?

What things?

Mechanical adding machines, then electronic calculators. The first
4-function electronic calculator I saw cost approx. $100.

Perce

[s***@dog.com]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:16:12 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"

Post by Percival P. Cassidy

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the answers!
1. What is a record player?

Plays vinyl audio albums.

Vinyl? Which world are you living in? Real record players play shellac
discs. We had one my father bought at an auction that even had with it
some old Columbia discs that were recorded at 80rpm -- and the player
had a setting for that.

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

$1.00 / gal

79 cents a gallon on Long Island, NY in 1998 or thereabouts.

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
9. How were things done before computers?

What things?

Mechanical adding machines, then electronic calculators. The first
4-function electronic calculator I saw cost approx. $100.
Perce

I can remember when "computer" was the job title of a person.

[Stormin Mormon]

Reefer was a type of truck....
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

Post by Percival P. Cassidy
Mechanical adding machines, then electronic calculators.
The first
4-function electronic calculator I saw cost approx. $100.
Perce

I can remember when "computer" was the job title of a
person.

[chaniarts]

Post by Percival P. Cassidy

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the answers!
1. What is a record player?

Plays vinyl audio albums.

Vinyl? Which world are you living in? Real record players play shellac
discs. We had one my father bought at an auction that even had with it
some old Columbia discs that were recorded at 80rpm -- and the player
had a setting for that.

my parents had an edison recorder/player that used wax tubes. he also had
this enormous adding machine with a crank that could also subtract. he's
still using the old black dial phones.

[David Nebenzahl]

Post by chaniarts
my parents had an edison recorder/player that used wax tubes. he also had
this enormous adding machine with a crank that could also subtract. he's
still using the old black dial phones.

Amazing that the telephone network still supports pulse dialing, ain't it?

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:15:54 -0800, David Nebenzahl

Post by David Nebenzahl

Post by chaniarts
my parents had an edison recorder/player that used wax tubes. he also had
this enormous adding machine with a crank that could also subtract. he's
still using the old black dial phones.

Amazing that the telephone network still supports pulse dialing, ain't it?

Yeah, my .line doesn't support TONE dialing yet!!!!!

[s***@dog.com]

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:15:54 -0800, David Nebenzahl

Post by David Nebenzahl

Post by chaniarts
my parents had an edison recorder/player that used wax tubes. he also had
this enormous adding machine with a crank that could also subtract. he's
still using the old black dial phones.

Amazing that the telephone network still supports pulse dialing, ain't it?

Yeah, my .line doesn't support TONE dialing yet!!!!!

I have a pristine Bell Systems black rotary wall phone in my kitchen.
I've had guests who weren't sure how to use it.

[g***@aol.com]

Post by s***@dog.com

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:15:54 -0800, David Nebenzahl

Post by David Nebenzahl

Post by chaniarts
my parents had an edison recorder/player that used wax tubes. he also had
this enormous adding machine with a crank that could also subtract. he's
still using the old black dial phones.

Amazing that the telephone network still supports pulse dialing, ain't it?

Yeah, my .line doesn't support TONE dialing yet!!!!!

I have a pristine Bell Systems black rotary wall phone in my kitchen.
I've had guests who weren't sure how to use it.

My tiki bar has a couple of relics in it. THe rotary pay phone works
and the cypress knot clock in the upper right corner baffles most
people younger than 40. There are no numbers on it.

BTW that "Billy Bass" is probably the first one ever in Lee County
Florida. My mother in law brought it down from Atlanta

[g***@aol.com]

Post by g***@aol.com
My tiki bar has a couple of relics in it. THe rotary pay phone works
and the cypress knot clock in the upper right corner baffles most
people younger than 40. There are no numbers on it.
BTW that "Billy Bass" is probably the first one ever in Lee County
Florida. My mother in law brought it down from Atlanta

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[Oren]

Post by g***@aol.com

Post by g***@aol.com
My tiki bar has a couple of relics in it. THe rotary pay phone works
and the cypress knot clock in the upper right corner baffles most
people younger than 40. There are no numbers on it.
BTW that "Billy Bass" is probably the first one ever in Lee County
Florida. My mother in law brought it down from Atlanta

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/bar.jpg

I have a cypress clock with roman numerals 3,6,9 and 12

Is that wall poster of Sanibel / Captiva Islands?

[Stormin Mormon]

Good for you. Hope you use it for many more years.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


<***@dog.com> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

I have a pristine Bell Systems black rotary wall phone in my
kitchen.
I've had guests who weren't sure how to use it.

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:26:43 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"

Post by Stormin Mormon
Good for you. Hope you use it for many more years.

Just removed the avacado green dial wall-phone from our kitchen this
summer.

[Stormin Mormon]

I hope you had a priest bless it, and then burned it. (grin
here)
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


<***@snyder.on.ca> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

Just removed the avacado green dial wall-phone from our
kitchen this
summer.

[Bob Villa]

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:26:43 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"

Post by Stormin Mormon
Good for you. Hope you use it for many more years.

 Just removed the avacado green dial wall-phone from our kitchen this
summer.

My mom still has one in her basement (you can hear it on the 2nd
floor!).

bob

[Lp1331 1p1331]

11. Name a convenience store or motel run by someone not named Patel.

[Tony]

Post by David Nebenzahl

Post by chaniarts
my parents had an edison recorder/player that used wax tubes. he also
had this enormous adding machine with a crank that could also
subtract. he's still using the old black dial phones.

Amazing that the telephone network still supports pulse dialing, ain't it?

Yes it is. A few years back a friend had a touch tone pay phone someone
gave him. He hung it up and wired it in our "club house" but couldn't
get it to make a call. It had a dial tone but would not work, even with
quarters. Holding the receiver in my hand, I tapped the hang up flap
two times quickly, short pause, 1 tap, short pause, 5 tapps, (215 area
code) then did the rest of my phone number. Everyone thought I was to
drunk and crazy but as soon as I heard my phone ring I handed him the
receiver and he heard my answering machine. The old dial phones are
doing the exact same thing when you hear it click, click, click. That
payphone on the wall then became a sort of drunk-O-meter. It's not easy
to always get the pulses down just right. Ya know, I wonder what it
will do on a public pay phone?

[aemeijers]

Post by Tony

Post by David Nebenzahl

Post by chaniarts
my parents had an edison recorder/player that used wax tubes. he also
had this enormous adding machine with a crank that could also
subtract. he's still using the old black dial phones.

Amazing that the telephone network still supports pulse dialing, ain't it?

Yes it is. A few years back a friend had a touch tone pay phone someone
gave him. He hung it up and wired it in our "club house" but couldn't
get it to make a call. It had a dial tone but would not work, even with
quarters. Holding the receiver in my hand, I tapped the hang up flap
two times quickly, short pause, 1 tap, short pause, 5 tapps, (215 area
code) then did the rest of my phone number. Everyone thought I was to
drunk and crazy but as soon as I heard my phone ring I handed him the
receiver and he heard my answering machine. The old dial phones are
doing the exact same thing when you hear it click, click, click. That
payphone on the wall then became a sort of drunk-O-meter. It's not easy
to always get the pulses down just right. Ya know, I wonder what it
will do on a public pay phone?

Probably just needed to reverse L1 and L2 to get it to break dial tone
with the TT pad. Some early touchtones were like that. Did he have the
key for the coin box?

--
aem sends...

[Tony]

Post by aemeijers

Post by Tony

Post by David Nebenzahl

Post by chaniarts
my parents had an edison recorder/player that used wax tubes. he
also had this enormous adding machine with a crank that could also
subtract. he's still using the old black dial phones.

Amazing that the telephone network still supports pulse dialing, ain't it?

Yes it is. A few years back a friend had a touch tone pay phone
someone gave him. He hung it up and wired it in our "club house" but
couldn't get it to make a call. It had a dial tone but would not
work, even with quarters. Holding the receiver in my hand, I tapped
the hang up flap two times quickly, short pause, 1 tap, short pause, 5
tapps, (215 area code) then did the rest of my phone number. Everyone
thought I was to drunk and crazy but as soon as I heard my phone ring
I handed him the receiver and he heard my answering machine. The old
dial phones are doing the exact same thing when you hear it click,
click, click. That payphone on the wall then became a sort of
drunk-O-meter. It's not easy to always get the pulses down just
right. Ya know, I wonder what it will do on a public pay phone?

Probably just needed to reverse L1 and L2 to get it to break dial tone
with the TT pad. Some early touchtones were like that. Did he have the
key for the coin box?

I don't think he had a key. And from what I have seen, those aren't
easy to open without it! I think the cash box then has a separate key
and when they empty them they just swap an empty box for the one in the
phone.

[Stormin Mormon]

I bet the dial phone also has the four pin plug?
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"chaniarts" <***@nospam.stratus.com> wrote in
message news:hjsl7g$p6e$***@news.eternal-september.org...

my parents had an edison recorder/player that used wax
tubes. he also had
this enormous adding machine with a crank that could also
subtract. he's
still using the old black dial phones.

[unknown]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:16:12 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"

Post by Percival P. Cassidy

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the answers!
1. What is a record player?

Plays vinyl audio albums.

Vinyl? Which world are you living in? Real record players play shellac
discs. We had one my father bought at an auction that even had with it
some old Columbia discs that were recorded at 80rpm -- and the player
had a setting for that.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vinyl+records

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramophone_record

"A gramophone record, commonly known as phonograph record (in American
English), vinyl record (when made of polyvinyl chloride)"

"As of 2009, vinyl records continue to be used for distribution of
independent and alternative music artists. More mainstream pop
releases tend to be mostly sold in digital or compact disc format, but
have still been released in vinyl in certain instances."

Reference to vinyl = common description not indicative to all
compositions used over the past 100 years.

[Stormin Mormon]

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
1. What is a record player?

Plays vinyl audio albums.

Vinyl? Which world are you living in? Real record players
play shellac
discs. We had one my father bought at an auction that even
had with it
some old Columbia discs that were recorded at 80rpm -- and
the player
had a setting for that.

CY: I've seen 78 RPM, but not 80.

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

$1.00 / gal

79 cents a gallon on Long Island, NY in 1998 or thereabouts.

CY: That goes back. Before I was driving, gas was about .33
a galon. I don't th ink there even was a minium wage back
then. You got paid about what you were worth.

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
9. How were things done before computers?

What things?

Mechanical adding machines, then electronic calculators. The
first
4-function electronic calculator I saw cost approx. $100.

CY: I remember my Dad bought a desk calculator from Heathkit
for $125. He might still have it. I bought a mechanical
adding machine one time at a garage sale. Brought it home in
my wagon. My parents were not ammused.

Perce

[Mark Lloyd]

[snip]

Post by Percival P. Cassidy
Vinyl? Which world are you living in? Real record players
play shellac
discs.

One of my father's was labeled "acoustically recorded in 1908".

[snip]

[terry]

Post by Mark Lloyd

Post by Percival P. Cassidy
Vinyl? Which world are you living in? Real record players
play shellac discs.

One of my father's was labeled "acoustically recorded in 1908".
Mark Lloydhttp://notstupid.us

====================================================

Nah. Them Edison tubes is better!

PS. After fixing a TV I was once offered an old decrepit one, with
some recordings.
Perhaps should have accepted it.
But sensing it's future worth I didn't take it cos felt it should stay
with that family.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:16:12 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"

Post by Percival P. Cassidy

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

$1.00 / gal

79 cents a gallon on Long Island, NY in 1998 or thereabouts.

Ah, you kids. How about 19.9 at the Merit station in 1962 when I
started driving. The Esso station across the street was 21.9
Esso was part of Standard Oil, later Exxon.

Post by Percival P. Cassidy

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
9. How were things done before computers?

What things?

Mechanical adding machines, then electronic calculators. The first
4-function electronic calculator I saw cost approx. $100.
Perce

Mine was huge with a CRT that showed 4 lines. $400, a year later $300,
a couple more years later a TI was $79

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

Post by s***@dog.com
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:16:12 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"

Post by Percival P. Cassidy

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

$1.00 / gal

79 cents a gallon on Long Island, NY in 1998 or thereabouts.

Ah, you kids. How about 19.9 at the Merit station in 1962 when I
started driving. The Esso station across the street was 21.9
Esso was part of Standard Oil, later Exxon.

Post by Percival P. Cassidy

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
9. How were things done before computers?

What things?

Mechanical adding machines, then electronic calculators. The first
4-function electronic calculator I saw cost approx. $100.
Perce

Mine was huge with a CRT that showed 4 lines. $400, a year later $300,
a couple more years later a TI was $79

What? No Nixies????

[Tony]

Post by s***@dog.com
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:16:12 -0500, "Percival P. Cassidy"

Post by Percival P. Cassidy

Post by unknown

Post by Stormin Mormon
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?

$1.00 / gal

79 cents a gallon on Long Island, NY in 1998 or thereabouts.

Ah, you kids. How about 19.9 at the Merit station in 1962 when I
started driving. The Esso station across the street was 21.9
Esso was part of Standard Oil, later Exxon.

I was only 5 or 6 but for some reason I remember 35.9 cents/gallon.
That would be around 1966/1967. Many years later the garage only did
automatic transmissions and stopped selling gas. About 10 years ago I
took a car there for a tranny rebuild. Talked to the owner and asked if
he was the same guy as back in the 60's that used to give me a lollipop
every time my mom got gas. Yep, that was me he said. So when he gave
me the bill for the tranny (same exact quoted price), I asked him for a
lollipop but he didn't have any.

[Mark Lloyd]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:01:46 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <***@snet.net> wrote:

[snip]

Post by Ed Pawlowski
Ah, you kids. How about 19.9 at the Merit station in 1962 when I
started driving. The Esso station across the street was 21.9
Esso was part of Standard Oil, later Exxon.

I remember hearing about Esso, but had little to do with it. In this
part of the country, we had Enco.

When we were going on trips (1960s and 1970s), my mother often was
saying "look for an Enco on the right". There were so many stations
there was always one on the right, and Enco was the only credit card
we had then (for keeping records of travel expenses).

[snip]

[Sanity]

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?
2. What is a dial telephone?
3. Who were the Beatles?
4. What is an 8-track tape player?
5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
6. What is inflation?
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
8. What was the draft?
9. How were things done before computers?
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

Better yet, ask them where Portugal is or what state is Washington DC in.
Ask them about Pearl Harbor, Normandy. Ask them what the three branches of
our government are.

[Red Green]

Post by Sanity

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?
2. What is a dial telephone?
3. Who were the Beatles?
4. What is an 8-track tape player?
5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
6. What is inflation?
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
8. What was the draft?
9. How were things done before computers?
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

Better yet, ask them where Portugal is or what state is Washington DC
in. Ask them about Pearl Harbor, Normandy. Ask them what the three
branches of our government are.
what state is Washington DC in.

a) turmoil
b) confusion
c) havoc
d) recklessness
...
...
z) all of the above

[Stormin Mormon]

Deficit?
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

Post by Sanity
what state is Washington DC in.

a) turmoil
b) confusion
c) havoc
d) recklessness
...
...
z) all of the above

[Bob F]

Post by Sanity

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?
2. What is a dial telephone?
3. Who were the Beatles?
4. What is an 8-track tape player?
5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
6. What is inflation?
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
8. What was the draft?
9. How were things done before computers?
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

Better yet, ask them where Portugal is or what state is Washington DC
in. Ask them about Pearl Harbor, Normandy. Ask them what the three
branches of our government are.

Or just about any question about the history of unions in this country.

[Zootal]

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?
2. What is a dial telephone?
3. Who were the Beatles?
4. What is an 8-track tape player?
5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
6. What is inflation?
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
8. What was the draft?
9. How were things done before computers?
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?

We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.

[Doug Miller]

Post by Zootal
11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.

*Nobody* knows how to make change anymore. I worked my way though college 30+
years ago running a cash register at a drugstore. This is how we were taught
to make change, using your example above, and counting _out loud_ to the
customer:

Put the purchase in a bag, hand it to him, and say "A dollar twenty-seven".
Then three pennies: "28, 29, 30." Then two dimes -- "40, 50." Then two
quarters -- "75, two dollars, thank you sir."

The beauty of this method is that you don't have to do any math to speak of.
All you need to do is count. It doesn't matter if neither the cashier nor the
customer can do the subtraction correctly -- it always produces the correct
change, and everybody knows it.

And nobody under the age of about fifty has any idea how to do that.

[Zootal]

Post by Doug Miller

Post by Zootal
11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without
a using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.

*Nobody* knows how to make change anymore. I worked my way though
college 30+ years ago running a cash register at a drugstore. This is
how we were taught to make change, using your example above, and
Put the purchase in a bag, hand it to him, and say "A dollar
twenty-seven". Then three pennies: "28, 29, 30." Then two dimes --
"40, 50." Then two quarters -- "75, two dollars, thank you sir."
The beauty of this method is that you don't have to do any math to
speak of. All you need to do is count. It doesn't matter if neither
the cashier nor the customer can do the subtraction correctly -- it
always produces the correct change, and everybody knows it.
And nobody under the age of about fifty has any idea how to do that.

I worked at a gas station when I was in school, and that is what we were
taught also. I think it was pretty much the definitive way to make change.
And it is so simple!

I read somewhere that in the years to come, after the technology crash
happens and we are back to mechanical cash registers, Wal-Mart will be
hiring all of use old programmers to run their cash registers because none
of the kids these days know how to count money and no one else out there
can do any math.

[Doug Miller]

Post by Zootal
I worked at a gas station when I was in school, and that is what we were
taught also. I think it was pretty much the definitive way to make change.
And it is so simple!
I read somewhere that in the years to come, after the technology crash
happens and we are back to mechanical cash registers, Wal-Mart will be
hiring all of use old programmers to run their cash registers because none
of the kids these days know how to count money and no one else out there
can do any math.

I was always the fastest of the cashiers. Back then, Indiana sales tax was
only 4%, and figuring that in my head was trivial. Much faster than looking it
up on the little chart...

[mm]

Post by Doug Miller

Post by Zootal
I worked at a gas station when I was in school, and that is what we were
taught also. I think it was pretty much the definitive way to make change.
And it is so simple!
I read somewhere that in the years to come, after the technology crash
happens and we are back to mechanical cash registers, Wal-Mart will be
hiring all of use old programmers to run their cash registers because none
of the kids these days know how to count money and no one else out there
can do any math.

I was always the fastest of the cashiers. Back then, Indiana sales tax was
only 4%, and figuring that in my head was trivial. Much faster than looking it
up on the little chart...

When I was in Indiana, until 1966, the sales tax was 2 percent!

But i never knew where the borders were between 1 penny and the next.

[David Nebenzahl]

Post by Zootal
I read somewhere that in the years to come, after the technology crash
happens and we are back to mechanical cash registers, Wal-Mart will be
hiring all of use old programmers to run their cash registers because none
of the kids these days know how to count money and no one else out there
can do any math.

Math? *Math?* We're talking about simple *arithmetic* here, for chrissakes.

Can't even fucking *make change*; forget about differentiation,
integration, polynomials, etc., etc.

We're doomed.

[Steve B]

Post by David Nebenzahl
Math? *Math?* We're talking about simple *arithmetic* here, for chrissakes.
Can't even fucking *make change*; forget about differentiation,
integration, polynomials, etc., etc.
We're doomed.
--
You were wrong, and I'm man enough to admit it.
- a Usenet "apology"

So, you got to math without first learning arithmetic?

Impressive. It's like writing a novel without learning ABC's.

Steve

[David Nebenzahl]

Post by Steve B

Post by David Nebenzahl
Math? *Math?* We're talking about simple *arithmetic* here, for chrissakes.
Can't even fucking *make change*; forget about differentiation,
integration, polynomials, etc., etc.
We're doomed.

So, you got to math without first learning arithmetic?

Well, that was my point: this isn't about knowing math, it's about being
able to do *simple arithmetic*.

Post by Steve B
Impressive. It's like writing a novel without learning ABC's.

Exactly.

[Lp1331 1p1331]

I bought gas for 18.9 cents during price wars from the time I started
driving in 1966 until the first "gas shortage" in the fall of 72. My
folks till have a bunch of green glasses that given away with gas during
the 60's.

[Stormin Mormon]

I'm 47, and I do that all the time. However, I may be
acceptional. *
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


"Doug Miller" <***@milmac.com> wrote in message news:hjsi9c$8dl$***@news.eternal-september.org...

*Nobody* knows how to make change anymore. I worked my way
though college 30+
years ago running a cash register at a drugstore. This is
how we were taught
to make change, using your example above, and counting _out
loud_ to the
customer:

Put the purchase in a bag, hand it to him, and say "A dollar
twenty-seven".
Then three pennies: "28, 29, 30." Then two dimes -- "40,
50." Then two
quarters -- "75, two dollars, thank you sir."

The beauty of this method is that you don't have to do any
math to speak of.
All you need to do is count. It doesn't matter if neither
the cashier nor the
customer can do the subtraction correctly -- it always
produces the correct
change, and everybody knows it.

And nobody under the age of about fifty has any idea how to
do that.

* Acceptional. Adj. One who is more than usual accepting of
others limits and foibles.

[JIMMIE]

Post by Doug Miller

Post by Zootal
11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.

*Nobody* knows how to make change anymore. I worked my way though college 30+
years ago running a cash register at a drugstore. This is how we were taught
to make change, using your example above, and counting _out loud_ to the
Put the purchase in a bag, hand it to him, and say "A dollar twenty-seven".
Then three pennies: "28, 29, 30." Then two dimes -- "40, 50." Then two
quarters -- "75, two dollars, thank you sir."
The beauty of this method is that you don't have to do any math to speak of.
All you need to do is count. It doesn't matter if neither the cashier nor the
customer can do the subtraction correctly -- it always produces the correct
change, and everybody knows it.
And nobody under the age of about fifty has any idea how to do that.

They just arent taught. I showed a kid working at a charity garage
sale how to do it . It took all of 30 seconds to show him and he was
VERY appreciative. He had been struggling.

Jimmie

[s***@dog.com]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:48:00 -0800 (PST), JIMMIE

Post by JIMMIE

Post by Doug Miller

Post by Zootal
11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.

*Nobody* knows how to make change anymore. I worked my way though college 30+
years ago running a cash register at a drugstore. This is how we were taught
to make change, using your example above, and counting _out loud_ to the
Put the purchase in a bag, hand it to him, and say "A dollar twenty-seven".
Then three pennies: "28, 29, 30." Then two dimes -- "40, 50." Then two
quarters -- "75, two dollars, thank you sir."
The beauty of this method is that you don't have to do any math to speak of.
All you need to do is count. It doesn't matter if neither the cashier nor the
customer can do the subtraction correctly -- it always produces the correct
change, and everybody knows it.
And nobody under the age of about fifty has any idea how to do that.

They just arent taught. I showed a kid working at a charity garage
sale how to do it . It took all of 30 seconds to show him and he was
VERY appreciative. He had been struggling.
Jimmie

Back in the day, they not only taught that method, but the employees
were instructed to do it "out loud", so the customer would be assured
they were getting the correct change.

[Steve B]

Post by Zootal
11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.

I love it when the bill is $11.06, and I give them $21.11, so I can get back
a $10, and a nickel, and they can keep their ones. It takes them a moment
or five to enter $21.11 as Amt Tendered, then the amazed look at when it
flashes $10.05 as change, they look amazed or ask, "How did you do that?"

Priceless.

Steve

[RobertPatrick]

Post by Steve B

Post by Zootal
11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars.
Without a using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to
make change when the power went out.

I love it when the bill is $11.06, and I give them $21.11, so I can
get back a $10, and a nickel, and they can keep their ones. It takes
them a moment or five to enter $21.11 as Amt Tendered, then the amazed
look at when it flashes $10.05 as change, they look amazed or ask,
"How did you do that?"
Priceless.
Steve

LOL
These days the cash register tells them the change to give back.
We used to have to figure it out and then we'd count out the amount
to the buyer as we gave them the change.

[The Ranger]

Doug Miller <***@milmac.com> wrote in message news:hjsi9c$8dl$***@news.eternal-september.org...
[snip counting change back]

Post by Doug Miller
And nobody under the age of about fifty has any idea how to do that.

Absolutes tend to exclude exceptions to the rule; all three of my
daughter-units are quite adept at counting change back. It a pet-peeve of
SWMBO (she managed several retail stores during her teens and twenties), my
MIL (who was a cashier at different times of her life), and me.

The Ranger

[terry]

Post by Zootal

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?
2. What is a dial telephone?
3. Who were the Beatles?
4. What is an 8-track tape player?
5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
6. What is inflation?
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
8. What was the draft?
9. How were things done before computers?
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Calculators; bah humbug.

Ah but we also pay a sales tax. Used to be 15%. Which was easy; one
tenth plus half of that again, added to the price.
So in the example above sales tax would be 12.7 (that's 13 cents) plus
half of that again (6.5 cents) a tax of 19 cents.
So; 1.27 = 19 cents = well mentally I would say well that's one cent
less than 1.47 or 1.46. And 1.46 is 4 cents less than 1.50 so from the
2 bucks that's, 54 cents change!!!!!
New the sales tax has been reduced to 13%; haven't yet worked out a
quick way to mentally calculate that. There probably is one though.
Suggestions welcome.

BTW anybody interested in our 'Quick and Dirty' interest and monthly
repayment calculation that one can do in one's head and is reasonably
accurate for amount up to say $20,000 and say five years. Although
again been meaning to work out some sort of correction factor for
bigger amounts or longer periods!.

PS. Grandson when very small seen urgently pointing a digital
calculator at the TV and pressing various buttons; thinking it was the
TV remote!
And in more recent years he's been showing his friends this 'cool'
phone with a round dial (A Contempra with in-handset rotary dial) that
we have in the hall passageway for convenient answering.
But yes; I don't know how to 'knit' a fishing net or use a cast net,
split a chunk of wood with one blow; skills my father in law and
brother in law took for granted.

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:55:54 -0800 (PST), terry

Post by terry

Post by Zootal

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?
2. What is a dial telephone?
3. Who were the Beatles?
4. What is an 8-track tape player?
5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
6. What is inflation?
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
8. What was the draft?
9. How were things done before computers?
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

Calculators; bah humbug.
Ah but we also pay a sales tax. Used to be 15%. Which was easy; one
tenth plus half of that again, added to the price.
So in the example above sales tax would be 12.7 (that's 13 cents) plus
half of that again (6.5 cents) a tax of 19 cents.
So; 1.27 = 19 cents = well mentally I would say well that's one cent
less than 1.47 or 1.46. And 1.46 is 4 cents less than 1.50 so from the
2 bucks that's, 54 cents change!!!!!
New the sales tax has been reduced to 13%; haven't yet worked out a
quick way to mentally calculate that. There probably is one though.
Suggestions welcome.

Must live in Ontario. By July it will all be One tax instead of 2, so
yu won't need to remember if it gets GST, PST, or both applied.

Post by terry
BTW anybody interested in our 'Quick and Dirty' interest and monthly
repayment calculation that one can do in one's head and is reasonably
accurate for amount up to say $20,000 and say five years. Although
again been meaning to work out some sort of correction factor for
bigger amounts or longer periods!.
PS. Grandson when very small seen urgently pointing a digital
calculator at the TV and pressing various buttons; thinking it was the
TV remote!
And in more recent years he's been showing his friends this 'cool'
phone with a round dial (A Contempra with in-handset rotary dial) that
we have in the hall passageway for convenient answering.
But yes; I don't know how to 'knit' a fishing net or use a cast net,
split a chunk of wood with one blow; skills my father in law and
brother in law took for granted.

[Percival P. Cassidy]

Post by Zootal
11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.

Most store these days have no provision for selling anything without
using the UPC scanner, quite apart from the onerous task of figuring out
the change. Even writing down the UPC no. on a piece of paper doesn't
work, because the store identifies an item not by the UPC but by the SKU
-- and only the computer system knows how they are related.

Perce

[Tony]

Post by Percival P. Cassidy

Post by Zootal
11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.

Most store these days have no provision for selling anything without
using the UPC scanner, quite apart from the onerous task of figuring out
the change. Even writing down the UPC no. on a piece of paper doesn't
work, because the store identifies an item not by the UPC but by the SKU
-- and only the computer system knows how they are related.

The UPC is Morse Code, can't help with the SKU. I wonder if WalMart has
an extra set of cash registers independent of their computer system in
case of a major computer crash?

[Cindy Hamilton]

Post by Percival P. Cassidy

Post by Zootal
11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.

Most store these days have no provision for selling anything without
using the UPC scanner, quite apart from the onerous task of figuring out
the change. Even writing down the UPC no. on a piece of paper doesn't
work, because the store identifies an item not by the UPC but by the SKU
-- and only the computer system knows how they are related.

Here in Michigan, nearly everything is required to have a human-
readable
price tag. Most of our consumer protection was gutted in the last
15 or 20 years, but by gum we're protected from not knowing what the
price is once we've left the aisle where we picked the thing up.

Cindy Hamilton

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:25:25 -0600, Zootal

Post by Zootal

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?
2. What is a dial telephone?
3. Who were the Beatles?
4. What is an 8-track tape player?
5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
6. What is inflation?
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
8. What was the draft?
9. How were things done before computers?
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.

Now add in the different sales taxes. And THEN figure out the
change.

[Stormin Mormon]

Oh, better. Hand the clerk five dollars, and two cents. That
will kill any public school student.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


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11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two
dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?

We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears
trying to make
change when the power went out.

[Doug Miller]

Post by Stormin Mormon
Oh, better. Hand the clerk five dollars, and two cents. That
will kill any public school student.

I recently handed a cashier a twenty and a one for a purchase of ten dollars
and some cents. She looked quite puzzled. I got back some coins, a five, and
five ones -- one of which was the one I'd handed her to begin with. I had to
ask for a ten instead of the smaller bills. And told her "that's why I gave
you the one-dollar bill in the first place, so I'd get a ten back."
OHHHHH!!

[Bob]

Post by Zootal
11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.

What's worse is delivery people who don't know how to give change that
encourages tipping. For example, a pizza order for $14.95. The
customer hands over a $20, and gets a nickel and a $5 in change. Being
a kind and compassionate customer, I might let the guy keep the nickel.
But if he gave out a nickel, four quarters, and four singles I might
be inclined to give a bigger tip (if the pizza is still hot).

[terry]

Someone wrote "How about a "cassette" recorder that used Cassettes
about 6X8 inches
with the wide tape like used on the old real to real? Made by RCA "

Reelly?????????????

[c***@snyder.on.ca]

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:45:28 -0800 (PST), terry

Post by terry
Someone wrote "How about a "cassette" recorder that used Cassettes
about 6X8 inches
with the wide tape like used on the old real to real? Made by RCA "
Reelly?????????????

Yup. I owned one. Made before the little cassete tapes, and If I
Rember Correctly - before the 8 track. I believe. built from '59 to
'64.
Progressing from Cassette (RCA) to Mini-cassette (Philips) to
Micro-cassette.

see
http://www.smecc.org/rca_inc_.htm about half way down the page.

Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_tape_cartridge - more accurate I
believe - the tape WAS 1/4".

YLB18a I believe was the unit I had. See it and hear it at:

Also see: http://www.connell-labs.com/tape/RCACartridgeTapes.html

[David Nebenzahl]

Post by c***@snyder.on.ca
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:45:28 -0800 (PST), terry

Post by terry
Someone wrote "How about a "cassette" recorder that used Cassettes
about 6X8 inches with the wide tape like used on the old real to
real? Made by RCA "
Reelly?????????????

Yup. I owned one. Made before the little cassete tapes, and If I
Rember Correctly - before the 8 track. I believe. built from '59 to
'64.
Progressing from Cassette (RCA) to Mini-cassette (Philips) to
Micro-cassette.
see
http://www.smecc.org/rca_inc_.htm about half way down the page.

Hmm; I wonder how I missed those. I was in grade school in the 1960s, so
presumably those were in use at the time. Maybe I just never noticed
them, but I don't ever remembering seeing one of those tape cartridges.

Actually, it looks like a pretty nice package for tape.

[terry]

Post by Bob

Post by Zootal
11. You buy an item for $1.27. You hand the clerk two dollars. Without a
using a calculator, how much change should you get back?
We've seen kids at a cash register practically in tears trying to make
change when the power went out.

What's worse is delivery people who don't know how to give change that
encourages tipping.  For example, a pizza order for $14.95.  The
customer hands over a $20, and gets a nickel and a $5 in change.  Being
a kind and compassionate customer, I might let the guy keep the nickel.
  But if he gave out a nickel, four quarters, and four singles I might
be inclined to give a bigger tip (if the pizza is still hot).

My barber (Short, back and front, while I snooze) has it down to a
science.

Give him a 20. or a five and a ten and he'll make sure to give you
change that includes ones (one dollar coins in this case) so you can
slip him a tip of a few bucks.

BTW: I've put a big old Bell style 2500 phone with a 'real' ringer-
bell by the bed; just in case anybody phones at night. So much of the
'modern' stuff has those modern sounders. It's hard to a) Hear them
and b) WHICH one is 'beeping'. It rang this morning and really
surprised me!

If steam whistles or clicking of telegraphs were the sounds of the
1800s and early 1900s, the ticking of a geiger counter the sound of
the 1950s and 1960s, then the piezo electo beeper, in cash registers,
computers, et-al, MUST be the sound of this era!

Wonder what next?

[Stormin Mormon]

Electro Encepholic encoding. You can hear it in your mind,
whether you want to or not.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


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If steam whistles or clicking of telegraphs were the sounds
of the
1800s and early 1900s, the ticking of a geiger counter the
sound of
the 1950s and 1960s, then the piezo electo beeper, in cash
registers,
computers, et-al, MUST be the sound of this era!

Wonder what next?

[benick]

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?
2. What is a dial telephone?
3. Who were the Beatles?
4. What is an 8-track tape player?
5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
6. What is inflation?
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
8. What was the draft?
9. How were things done before computers?
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

Ask them to tell you what time it is using a regular clock instead of a
digital one...LOL...

[Sam E]

[snip]

Post by benick
Ask them to tell you what time it is using a regular clock instead of a
digital one...LOL...

For how long will an analog clock be called "regular"?

[Zootal]

Post by Mark Lloyd
[snip]

Post by benick
Ask them to tell you what time it is using a regular clock instead of a
digital one...LOL...

For how long will an analog clock be called "regular"?

We quit calling analog clocks "normal" and "regular" many years ago...my
kids see an analog clock on the wall, and they ask me what that funny
looking thing is.

[Oren]

On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:38:09 -0600, Zootal

Post by Zootal

Post by Sam E
For how long will an analog clock be called "regular"?

We quit calling analog clocks "normal" and "regular" many years ago...my
kids see an analog clock on the wall, and they ask me what that funny
looking thing is.

Bumper Sticker: (paraphrased)

If you want to know something ask a teenager. They know everything

Ask the kids what time is American Idol on??

[Tony]

Post by Zootal

Post by Mark Lloyd
[snip]

Post by benick
Ask them to tell you what time it is using a regular clock instead of a
digital one...LOL...

For how long will an analog clock be called "regular"?

We quit calling analog clocks "normal" and "regular" many years ago...my
kids see an analog clock on the wall, and they ask me what that funny
looking thing is.

Just recently I was wondering if my grandchildren will be taught to read
an analog clock FIRST. Analog clocks actually require less thought then
digital. You can look at an analog clock and without figuring the exact
time, you can almost instantly know about what time it is just be the
position of the hands. And many of them don't even have numbers,
because our minds don't need numbers to figure out analog time. Sort of
like looking at the sun, but a little more complex.

With a digital clock your mind has to calculate each number and come up
with an answer.

[Stormin Mormon]

I think it is based on the age of the person speaking.
--
Christopher A. Young
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www.lds.org
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[snip]

Post by benick
Ask them to tell you what time it is using a regular clock
instead of a
digital one...LOL...

For how long will an analog clock be called "regular"?

[Stormin Mormon]

What time is it, when the big hand is on the little hand?

Bedtime at Michael Jackson's.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


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Ask them to tell you what time it is using a regular clock
instead of a
digital one...LOL...

[hibb]

On Jan 28, 10:17 am, "Stormin Mormon"

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?
2. What is a dial telephone?
3. Who were the Beatles?
4. What is an 8-track tape player?
5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
6. What is inflation?
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
8. What was the draft?
9. How were things done before computers?
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

That can be turned around as well. Ever watch the game show called
"Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader"?

One of the early contestants was an actual "Rocket Scientist" that
worked for NASA. He was gone after missing the first question. And it
was a question from the first grade part of the quiz.

David

[Stormin Mormon]

I've not seen the show. However, a test can stump anyone.
Depends on who writes the test. I'm sure I could write a
multiple choice question that would fail most of the folks
on this list.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


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That can be turned around as well. Ever watch the game show
called
"Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader"?

One of the early contestants was an actual "Rocket
Scientist" that
worked for NASA. He was gone after missing the first
question. And it
was a question from the first grade part of the quiz.

David

[hibb]

On Jan 28, 7:09 pm, "Stormin Mormon"

I've not seen the show.  However, a test can stump anyone.
Depends on who writes the test. I'm sure I could write a
multiple choice question that would fail most of the folks
on this list.

Any question is easy if you know the answer. I don't remember the
particular question the rocket scientist missed but one of the
questions today was "a tom tom, snare and bongo are types of what
musical instrument". The contestant had to ask the fifth grader for
help.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
 www.lds.org
.
That can be turned around as well. Ever watch the game show
called
"Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader"?
One of the early contestants was an actual "Rocket
Scientist" that
worked for NASA. He was gone after missing the first
question. And it
was a question from the first grade part of the quiz.
David

[hr(bob) [e-mail]]

Post by hibb
On Jan 28, 7:09 pm, "Stormin Mormon"

I've not seen the show.  However, a test can stump anyone.
Depends on who writes the test. I'm sure I could write a
multiple choice question that would fail most of the folks
on this list.

Any question is easy if you know the answer. I don't remember the
particular question the rocket scientist missed but one of the
questions today was "a tom tom, snare and bongo are types of what
musical instrument". The contestant had to ask the fifth grader for
help.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
 www.lds.org
.
That can be turned around as well. Ever watch the game show
called
"Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader"?
One of the early contestants was an actual "Rocket
Scientist" that
worked for NASA. He was gone after missing the first
question. And it
was a question from the first grade part of the quiz.
David- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

At least he didn''t answer "types of GPS navigatorst".

[Stormin Mormon]

Years ago, I read a city people test. And wanted to know
what was a deuce and a quarter and what were boxcars. So,
depending on the culture, some information is foreign.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.


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Any question is easy if you know the answer. I don't
remember the
particular question the rocket scientist missed but one of
the
questions today was "a tom tom, snare and bongo are types of
what
musical instrument". The contestant had to ask the fifth
grader for
help.

[willshak]

On Jan 28, 7:09 pm, "Stormin Mormon"

Post by Stormin Mormon
I've not seen the show. However, a test can stump anyone.
Depends on who writes the test. I'm sure I could write a
multiple choice question that would fail most of the folks
on this list.

Any question is easy if you know the answer. I don't remember the
particular question the rocket scientist missed but one of the
questions today was "a tom tom, snare and bongo are types of what
musical instrument". The contestant had to ask the fifth grader for
help.

Post by Stormin Mormon
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
That can be turned around as well. Ever watch the game show
called
"Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader"?
One of the early contestants was an actual "Rocket
Scientist" that
worked for NASA. He was gone after missing the first
question. And it
was a question from the first grade part of the quiz.
David

Country singer Kelly Pickler had a real bad time on that show.

[Jo Ann]

On Jan 28, 10:17 am, "Stormin Mormon"

Post by Stormin Mormon
Ask people you know who are under 25, you'll be amazed at
the
answers!
1. What is a record player?
2. What is a dial telephone?
3. Who were the Beatles?
4. What is an 8-track tape player?
5. How many major wars occured in the 20th century?
6. What is inflation?
7. What is the cheapest price you can remember for gas?
8. What was the draft?
9. How were things done before computers?
10. How did people send a letter before e-mail?

And all of this proves -- what? That people don't remember things
that happened before they were born? That outdated, unused technology
has some sort of current purpose? That some people are weak in
history? That some people don't follow oldies music? As far as
adults "failing" at "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader," I propose
that an appropriate alternate title for this program would would be
"How Much of the Crap They Forced You to Learn in Fifth Grade That You
Never Had Any Further Use For Do You Still Remember?"