Discussion:
Another "Illegal" Cancer Cure
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k***@yahoo.com
2008-02-19 19:31:10 UTC
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http://www.youtube.com/chrychek

Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
Ralph
2008-02-20 02:19:10 UTC
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http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
about the biggest alternative cancer cure suppressed in the 1960s:

http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Dan Bloomquist
2008-02-20 02:29:59 UTC
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http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
followed by:
Tom Beardon: An Interview

You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Myal
2008-02-20 03:28:21 UTC
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Post by Ralph
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http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
between the snake oil sellers there is actually some pretty dam good stuff

if it were patentable , it would be being synthesised and produced as
pills , and sold at hugely inflated prices

because its not patentable tho ... its "snake oil
Ralph
2008-02-20 05:28:50 UTC
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
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http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey. Harry Hoxsey was arrested over 100
times just by one DA yet never convicted because no jury would ever
convict him. This was because he always had plenty of people who would
testiffy under oath that their regular doctor wrote them off as
terminal, then they went to Hoxsey who cured them and that was 5, 10 or
even 15 years ago. And these were prominate citizens in the community,
many of which jury members knew. When the DA's brother contracted cancer
he secretly went to Hoxsey who cured him; After the DA learned o this e
suddenly switched into a Hoxsey supporter. Hoxsey cured thousands of
people that mainstream medicine wrote off as terminal. This is a very
interesting, wel done documentary made about 1985, I suggest you watch
it.
Dan Bloomquist
2008-02-20 15:10:32 UTC
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Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
I don't have time to watch a 1.5hr movie. But I did follow the link:
Rebuttal book review & our commentary
http://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm

First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
k***@yahoo.com
2008-02-20 18:23:30 UTC
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
Rebuttal book review & our commentaryhttp://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
Note the source of the page and rebuttal.
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The movie is well worth the time.
It shows again that against all reports of success the medical
establishment, when it couldn't buy and control the formula, smeared
and destroyed the person and the product by their shear power of
propaganda and media control.
It is a well known FACT that the AMA is a controled arm of the
pharmautical complex owned by Rockefeller and Dupont.
Money rules.
And money doesn't care who dies as long as they get ALL the wealth of
the populace.
Dan Bloomquist
2008-02-20 18:28:27 UTC
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
Rebuttal book review & our commentaryhttp://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
Note the source of the page and rebuttal.
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The movie is well worth the time.
It shows again that against all reports of success the medical
establishment...
Link a pear reviewed paper. You are the same guy that believes in the
hydrogen scam.......
k***@yahoo.com
2008-02-20 18:39:50 UTC
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
Rebuttal book review & our commentaryhttp://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
Note the source of the page and rebuttal.
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The movie is well worth the time.
It shows again that against all reports of success the medical
establishment...
Link a pear reviewed paper. You are the same guy that believes in the
hydrogen scam.......
That's the point of the movie.
The medical establishment wouldn't "investigate" his formula because
after they tried to but it and control it Hoxey refused.
He mainly refused because of a promise to his Father that it would be
available to those with little money that the Pharma Buyers wouldn't
honor.
They also found they couldn't patent the ingedients since they grow in
the woods.
Then they destroyed him as best they could.
Watch the movie.

There is no hydrogen "scam."
Meyer's process works and is being duplicated all over the planet.
Some new devices based on his process will be shown to the media
likely this year.
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build
household co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's
process.

You want me to send you the circuit to build too like I sent to
Krasner and Ward?
k***@yahoo.com
2008-02-20 18:55:16 UTC
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
Rebuttal book review & our commentaryhttp://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
Note the source of the page and rebuttal.
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The movie is well worth the time.
It shows again that against all reports of success the medical
establishment...
Link a pear reviewed paper. You are the same guy that believes in the
hydrogen scam.......
That's the point of the movie.
The medical establishment wouldn't "investigate" his formula because
after they tried to but it and control it Hoxey refused.
(shoot, BUY IT)
Post by k***@yahoo.com
He mainly refused because of a promise to his Father that it would be
available to those with little money that the Pharma Buyers wouldn't
honor.
They also found they couldn't patent the ingedients since they grow in
the woods.
Then they destroyed him as best they could.
Watch the movie.
There is no hydrogen "scam."
Meyer's process works and is being duplicated all over the planet.
Some new devices based on his process will be shown to the media
likely this year.
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build
household co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's
process.
You want me to send you the circuit to build too like I sent to
Krasner and Ward?
Bill Ward
2008-02-20 20:19:42 UTC
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable
documentary about the biggest alternative cancer cure suppressed
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
Rebuttal book review & our
commentaryhttp://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
Note the source of the page and rebuttal.
Post by Dan Bloomquist
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The movie is well worth the time.
It shows again that against all reports of success the medical
establishment...
Link a pear reviewed paper. You are the same guy that believes in the
hydrogen scam.......
That's the point of the movie.
The medical establishment wouldn't "investigate" his formula because after
they tried to but it and control it Hoxey refused. He mainly refused
because of a promise to his Father that it would be available to those
with little money that the Pharma Buyers wouldn't honor.
They also found they couldn't patent the ingedients since they grow in the
woods.
Then they destroyed him as best they could. Watch the movie.
There is no hydrogen "scam."
Meyer's process works and is being duplicated all over the planet. Some
new devices based on his process will be shown to the media likely this
year.
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build household
co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's process.
You want me to send you the circuit to build too like I sent to Krasner
and Ward?
Why don't you? Everybody needs a good laugh now and then.
Fred Kasner
2008-02-20 21:19:22 UTC
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable
documentary about the biggest alternative cancer cure suppressed
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
Rebuttal book review & our
commentaryhttp://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
Note the source of the page and rebuttal.
Post by Dan Bloomquist
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The movie is well worth the time.
It shows again that against all reports of success the medical
establishment...
Link a pear reviewed paper. You are the same guy that believes in the
hydrogen scam.......
That's the point of the movie.
The medical establishment wouldn't "investigate" his formula because after
they tried to but it and control it Hoxey refused. He mainly refused
because of a promise to his Father that it would be available to those
with little money that the Pharma Buyers wouldn't honor.
They also found they couldn't patent the ingedients since they grow in the
woods.
Then they destroyed him as best they could. Watch the movie.
There is no hydrogen "scam."
Meyer's process works and is being duplicated all over the planet. Some
new devices based on his process will be shown to the media likely this
year.
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build household
co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's process.
You want me to send you the circuit to build too like I sent to Krasner
and Ward?
Why don't you? Everybody needs a good laugh now and then.
JW is a consummate liar as well as scientific ignoramus. He never sent
me any circuit and I never asked for one. He also is a very bad reader.
He repeatedly misspells my name.
FK
Bill Ward
2008-02-20 23:31:19 UTC
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable
documentary about the biggest alternative cancer cure suppressed
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
Rebuttal book review & our
commentaryhttp://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
Note the source of the page and rebuttal.
Post by Dan Bloomquist
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about
this stuff than you think....
The movie is well worth the time.
It shows again that against all reports of success the medical
establishment...
Link a pear reviewed paper. You are the same guy that believes in the
hydrogen scam.......
That's the point of the movie.
The medical establishment wouldn't "investigate" his formula because
after they tried to but it and control it Hoxey refused. He mainly
refused because of a promise to his Father that it would be available
to those with little money that the Pharma Buyers wouldn't honor. They
also found they couldn't patent the ingedients since they grow in the
woods.
Then they destroyed him as best they could. Watch the movie.
There is no hydrogen "scam."
Meyer's process works and is being duplicated all over the planet. Some
new devices based on his process will be shown to the media likely this
year.
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build
household co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's process.
You want me to send you the circuit to build too like I sent to Krasner
and Ward?
Why don't you? Everybody needs a good laugh now and then.
JW is a consummate liar as well as scientific ignoramus. He never sent me
any circuit and I never asked for one. He also is a very bad reader. He
repeatedly misspells my name.
FK
At least he's reliably wrong, like a south pointing compass. He can't
really be as stupid as he acts, or he'd accidentally get something right.
k***@yahoo.com
2008-02-21 02:31:45 UTC
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Post by Bill Ward
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Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable
documentary about the biggest alternative cancer cure suppressed
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
Rebuttal book review & our
commentaryhttp://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
Note the source of the page and rebuttal.
Post by Dan Bloomquist
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The movie is well worth the time.
It shows again that against all reports of success the medical
establishment...
Link a pear reviewed paper. You are the same guy that believes in the
hydrogen scam.......
That's the point of the movie.
The medical establishment wouldn't "investigate" his formula because after
they tried to but it and control it Hoxey refused. He mainly refused
because of a promise to his Father that it would be available to those
with little money that the Pharma Buyers wouldn't honor.
They also found they couldn't patent the ingedients since they grow in the
woods.
Then they destroyed him as best they could. Watch the movie.
There is no hydrogen "scam."
Meyer's process works and is being duplicated all over the planet. Some
new devices based on his process will be shown to the media likely this
year.
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build household
co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's process.
You want me to send you the circuit to build too like I sent to Krasner
and Ward?
Why don't you? Everybody needs a good laugh now and then.
JW is a consummate liar as well as scientific ignoramus. He never sent
me any circuit and I never asked for one. He also is a very bad reader.
He repeatedly misspells my name.
FK
It isn't misspelled on the new email I sent which is a forward of
original.
You and Ward are both resent.
You have all you need.
Testing 1, 2, 3...
E***@spamblock.panix.com
2008-02-21 14:50:38 UTC
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Post by k***@yahoo.com
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build
household co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's
process.
That's a newsworthy event. Can you send me a link to his press release?
--
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
-- Bertrand Russel
k***@yahoo.com
2008-02-21 15:39:49 UTC
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Post by k***@yahoo.com
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build
household co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's
process.
That's a newsworthy event. Can you send me a link to his press release?
No.
Sorry there is no news release yet.
The developer will be on a radio show soon to make his progress known.
I can't say when but we are hoping to be able to make the work public
within months.
Much has been accomplished all across the world in duplicating Meyer's
process.
My associate has extremely applicable credentials in that his past
work has made it easy for him to understand and duplicate Meyer's
processes.
He has also been able to improve it a bit.
There is a bit more testing and legal work to finish before any
anouncements.
Believe me I can hardly wait.
Your best place for updates on other experimenters' successes is here.
http://waterfuelcell.org/phpBB2/index.php?sid=db12475327496042ca0e9a3fc5408be5
Kirby M. Wilson
2008-02-21 17:41:36 UTC
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Post by k***@yahoo.com
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build
household co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's
process.
That's a newsworthy event. Can you send me a link to his press release?
No.
Sorry there is no news release yet.
The developer will be on a radio show soon to make his progress known.
I can't say when but we are hoping to be able to make the work public
within months.
Much has been accomplished all across the world in duplicating Meyer's
process.
My associate has extremely applicable credentials in that his past
work has made it easy for him to understand and duplicate Meyer's
processes.
He has also been able to improve it a bit.
There is a bit more testing and legal work to finish before any
anouncements.
Believe me I can hardly wait.
just a little bit more testing, a little more "legal" work, then the
magical water car
will run (if you invest just $1,500. or just a little more money ...
http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html

Stanley Meyer 1996 claimed to have a water powered car and was also
big on mixing Christianity and patriot politics in with fringe
science. Meyer was found guilty of fraud after his Water Fuel Cell
was tested before an Ohio judge. It is rare for an inventor to be
prosecuted for an invention that does not work, but Meyer's problem
was that he had been selling "dealerships", offering investors the
"right to do business'' in Water Fuel Cell technology. Meyer refused
to allow anyone else to measure his device. Dennis Lee invested in
him. He died in early 1998.Stanley Meyers gets locked up for phony
water powered cars "End of Road for Car That Ran on Water," London
Sunday Times, 1 Dec. 1996.
An Ohio court ruled against inventor Stanley Meyer, in a case brought
against him by disgruntled investors recently.
Meyer had sold "dealerships" and licensing rights in his Water Fuel
Cell technology to interested investors, in anticipation of the day
when it would power electric vehicles or even aircraft.
That dream was shattered as Meyer was found guilty of fraud when his
Water Fuel Cell failed to impress three "expert witnesses" who decided
there was nothing revolutionary about it, rather that it was simply
using conventional electrolysis.
The Sunday Times article also stated that when one of the court
experts went to examine the Water Fuel Cell driven car, it was
impossible to evaluate because it was not working.
k***@yahoo.com
2008-02-21 18:18:30 UTC
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Post by Kirby M. Wilson
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Post by k***@yahoo.com
One of my associates just secured $4,000,000 in funding to build
household co-generation electrical generators based on Meyer's
process.
That's a newsworthy event. Can you send me a link to his press release?
No.
Sorry there is no news release yet.
The developer will be on a radio show soon to make his progress known.
I can't say when but we are hoping to be able to make the work public
within months.
Much has been accomplished all across the world in duplicating Meyer's
process.
My associate has extremely applicable credentials in that his past
work has made it easy for him to understand and duplicate Meyer's
processes.
He has also been able to improve it a bit.
There is a bit more testing and legal work to finish before any
anouncements.
Believe me I can hardly wait.
just a little bit more testing, a little more "legal" work, then the
magical water car
will run (if you invest just $1,500. or just a little more money ...http://www.phact.org/e/dennis4.html
Your point with this site?
Post by Kirby M. Wilson
Stanley Meyer 1996 claimed to have a water powered car and was also
big on mixing Christianity and patriot politics in with fringe
science. Meyer was found guilty of fraud after his Water Fuel Cell
was tested before an Ohio judge. It is rare for an inventor to be
prosecuted for an invention that does not work, but Meyer's problem
was that he had been selling "dealerships", offering investors the
"right to do business'' in Water Fuel Cell technology. Meyer refused
to allow anyone else to measure his device.
Lie.
Post by Kirby M. Wilson
Dennis Lee invested in
him.
Lie.
Post by Kirby M. Wilson
He died in early 1998.Stanley Meyers gets locked up for phony
water powered cars "End of Road for Car That Ran on Water," London
Sunday Times, 1 Dec. 1996.
"locked up?"
Another lie.
Where do you come up with this shit?
Post by Kirby M. Wilson
An Ohio court ruled against inventor Stanley Meyer, in a case brought
against him by disgruntled investors recently.
Meyer had sold "dealerships" and licensing rights in his Water Fuel
Cell technology to interested investors, in anticipation of the day
when it would power electric vehicles or even aircraft.
That dream was shattered as Meyer was found guilty of fraud when his
Water Fuel Cell failed to impress three "expert witnesses" who decided
there was nothing revolutionary about it, rather that it was simply
using conventional electrolysis.
Lies.
One "expert" contaminated his cell.
Let's let everyone read Meyer's statement first.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.energy.hydrogen/browse_frm/thread/c0a73d1e0c47121b/c504681c6b958e14?lnk=gst&q=%22meyer%27s+statement%22#c504681c6b958e14
Post by Kirby M. Wilson
The Sunday Times article also stated that when one of the court
experts went to examine the Water Fuel Cell driven car, it was
impossible to evaluate because it was not working.
No court expert ever looked at the car.

Listen to someone who was there:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/WaterFuelMuseum/2007/03/25/stephen-meyer-part-1

Then let's do an experment like this guy.

Subject: Re: Stanley Meyer's Court Case
From: "Ted Zettergren" <***@swipnet.se>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 15:59:28 +0100


John Feiereisen skrev i meddelandet <756atu$mkn
Post by Kirby M. Wilson
For those of you who are unfamiliar, Stanley Meyer patented some
equipment for fueling an IC engine with hydrogen. In addition to this
legitimate work, he claimed to be able decompose water into hydrogen
and oxygen with >100% thermal efficiency, thereby inventing a
"water-powered car". He sold "marketing rights" for this technology
to unsuspecting people, one of whom is a regular reader of s.e.h.
Back a couple years, a couple of his investors got wise to his scam
and took him to court, where Meyer was found guilty of "gross and
egregious fraud" and ordered to repay those 'investors'. As far as I
know, those were the only 'investors' who ever recouped their
'investment'. Meyer died earlier this year and his followers insist
he was poisoned (all good perpetual motion inventors are stalked by
THE CONSPIRACY).
After being found guilty of fraud, Meyer sent a long rambling letter
to the remainder of his 'investors', obviously hoping to ward off a
spate of trials which would have drained him of his ill-gotten gains.
It was replete with conspiracy paranoia and claimed that a recording
device in the courtroom was turned off so the judge (obviously working
under the direction of THE CONSPIRACY) could railroad Meyer into an
unjust guilty verdict.
As far as I know, Meyer's home base was Grove City, Ohio, and the
court case took place in Shelby county, Ohio. I am going to be
passing through Ohio in a couple weeks and Grove City is but 3 miles
off my planned route. I can pass through Shelby county with only
minor adjustment of my planned route through Indiana. I figured I'd
stop in at the courthouse and see if I can pick up copies of the
records of the trial.
Does anybody know precisely where and when the trial took place?
City, county, etc., date(s)??? Possibly an official case name?
Thanks.
VERY GOOD Mr. Feiereisen

Take a copy of the tape fromx that trial and put it on the Real Player
so we all can listen to what really happened in the Court.

The most interesting is to hear what the WFC Expert Witnesses and
Electrical Engineer Mathias Johanson has to say.


The first part of the trial started on Thursday/Friday, 1/2 February
1996 before Judge William Corzine III at the Common Pleas Court,
Chillicothe, Ohio.

By the way. If you like to do some experiment, try this.

AT FIRST:

You must know the difference between a chemical reaction and a
nuclear reaction. A lot of people don't understand that but they like
to argue a lot in every NG on Internet.

In a chemical reaction you need a lot of current and some salt for
making the water conductive.

In a nuclear reaction you don't need any current at all, only high
voltage. How much current you need in a real application depends
on how clean your water is. As cleaner as better.

Stanley Meyers method's have NOTHING to do with chemical
reactions.

HOW TO?

As a guide, you need US Patent 4,936,961 ref. figure 1 to 3F.

If you read something about magical frequencyis, forget that.
It works fine with 10KHz or something else if you preferred.
Use 50% duty cycle. BUT! the frequency will be doubled in the
step up circuit and that's the frequency the Water-Cell will work
with. The components must resist at least 2000V.

The Water-Cell is very simple. Take a lot of stainless steel tubes
with the inner diameter of the bigger tube 3mm bigger than the outer
diameter of the inner tube. From now you must look at this
Water-Cell as a capacitor with water as dilectricum.

The Water-Cell and the INDUCTOR will resonate at a specific
frequency. It's a normal RC-circuit.

Now the most important: The Water-Cell/Inductor frequency and
the doubled frequency from the generator must be exactly the
same. A special condition exists in a L/C Circuit, when it is
energized at a frequency at which the inductive reactance is equal
to the capacitive reactance, XL = XC.

Adjust the voltage peak level to reach a maximum hydrogen/oxygen
producing with a minimum of current using. If you earlier make
hydrogen with the electrolysis method with a lot of current,
this experiment will really surprise you.

For even less current you can make some experiment with a
centertapped puls-transformer.

Have a nice trip to Ohio!

Ted!
Ralph
2008-02-21 02:16:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
Rebuttal book review & our commentary
http://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
This rebuttal claimed the documentary didn't provide proof that the
treatment worked, but the documentary was mostly about what the
establishment did to Hoxsey. The proof was in the fact that hundreds of
people testified under oath that their regular doctor wrote them off as
terminal and Hoxsey cured them. Hoxsey was arrested about 200 times, but
never convicted because he always insisted on a jury trial and no jury
would ever convict him.
Post by Dan Bloomquist
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The fact that they are dead meant you didn't know enough.

I've had relatives die of cancer too, and they all went the chemo,
radiation route. My own personal study says that shit don't work except
to empty out your bank account and make doctors rich.
Dan Bloomquist
2008-02-21 03:09:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ralph
Post by Dan Bloomquist
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The fact that they are dead meant you didn't know enough.
No. It means my mom looked into his, almond pits, they went to the
Netherlands, many other things, and _none_ of it kept my Dad from dying.

By the time my Mom found she had cancer it was in her lymph system. She
told the Doctors to take a hike as far as where the source was. It would
not change anything.
Post by Ralph
I've had relatives die of cancer too, and they all went the chemo,
radiation route. My own personal study says that shit don't work except
to empty out your bank account and make doctors rich.
Apples and Oranges. But I don't expect you to understand that.....
Fred Kasner
2008-02-21 22:51:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by Dan Bloomquist
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The fact that they are dead meant you didn't know enough.
No. It means my mom looked into his, almond pits, they went to the
Netherlands, many other things, and _none_ of it kept my Dad from dying.
By the time my Mom found she had cancer it was in her lymph system. She
told the Doctors to take a hike as far as where the source was. It would
not change anything.
Post by Ralph
I've had relatives die of cancer too, and they all went the chemo,
radiation route. My own personal study says that shit don't work except
to empty out your bank account and make doctors rich.
Apples and Oranges. But I don't expect you to understand that.....
My wife was a heavy smoker and ordinarily refused to complain about
medical conditions. Not surprised that when she finally admitted that
she was very sick that a few days later she died of heart failure. But
the heart failed because the liver was failing. The autopsy (daughter
and I agreed to it) revealed hard to detect lung cancer, metastasized
via lymphatic system to liver. She had a bad 6 last months in terms of
feeling sick a lot but didn't complain. Then again she flatly refused to
give up the cancer sticks. Smoked a lot of them per day. Not quite 73
when she expired. I miss her a lot. But the choice was hers. I suspect
she knew she had the big C. Gone in November of '99.
FK
Fred Kasner
2008-02-21 22:46:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ralph
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
Rebuttal book review & our commentary
http://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
This rebuttal claimed the documentary didn't provide proof that the
treatment worked, but the documentary was mostly about what the
establishment did to Hoxsey. The proof was in the fact that hundreds of
people testified under oath that their regular doctor wrote them off as
terminal and Hoxsey cured them. Hoxsey was arrested about 200 times, but
never convicted because he always insisted on a jury trial and no jury
would ever convict him.
Post by Dan Bloomquist
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The fact that they are dead meant you didn't know enough.
I've had relatives die of cancer too, and they all went the chemo,
radiation route. My own personal study says that shit don't work except
to empty out your bank account and make doctors rich.
Wile doing a CT scan for another problem they found a strange growth
near my heart. Did an exploratory for a biopsy but decided to remove it
all nevertheless. Found it to be thymus tissue and malignant. Keep
looking at it with CT scans every 6 months. No symptoms then nor at
present. The surgery was a one day thing and was out of hospital in less
than 24 hours. No radiation or chemotherapy. No problems save things not
related to any cancer. So they don't always ruin your health and just
mitigate your approach to death.
FK
k***@yahoo.com
2008-02-21 23:15:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fred Kasner
Post by Ralph
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
Rebuttal book review & our commentary
http://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
This rebuttal claimed the documentary didn't provide proof that the
treatment worked, but the documentary was mostly about what the
establishment did to Hoxsey. The proof was in the fact that hundreds of
people testified under oath that their regular doctor wrote them off as
terminal and Hoxsey cured them. Hoxsey was arrested about 200 times, but
never convicted because he always insisted on a jury trial and no jury
would ever convict him.
Post by Dan Bloomquist
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The fact that they are dead meant you didn't know enough.
I've had relatives die of cancer too, and they all went the chemo,
radiation route. My own personal study says that shit don't work except
to empty out your bank account and make doctors rich.
Wile doing a CT scan for another problem they found a strange growth
near my heart. Did an exploratory for a biopsy but decided to remove it
all nevertheless. Found it to be thymus tissue and malignant. Keep
looking at it with CT scans every 6 months. No symptoms then nor at
present. The surgery was a one day thing and was out of hospital in less
than 24 hours. No radiation or chemotherapy. No problems save things not
related to any cancer. So they don't always ruin your health and just
mitigate your approach to death.
FK
Very lucky for you Fred.
All those years of second hand smoke.
My oldest Aunt on my Father's side died of lung cancer in about 1962.
His older brother from the same thing in about 1980.
My Father in 1985 from what started as lung cancer, moved to liver,
brain, couldn't eat, starved to death.
All lifelong smokers.
The tobacco companies should pay for eternity for their sins.
Fred Kasner
2008-02-22 22:09:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Post by Fred Kasner
Post by Ralph
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
For those who might have missed it, here's a downloadable documentary
http://www.altcancer.com/vidgal.htm#hoxsey
Tom Beardon: An Interview
You and Chewy should start a snakeoil club......
Watch the documentary on Hoxsey....
Rebuttal book review & our commentary
http://www.altcancer.com/hoxrebut.htm
This rebuttal claimed the documentary didn't provide proof that the
treatment worked, but the documentary was mostly about what the
establishment did to Hoxsey. The proof was in the fact that hundreds of
people testified under oath that their regular doctor wrote them off as
terminal and Hoxsey cured them. Hoxsey was arrested about 200 times, but
never convicted because he always insisted on a jury trial and no jury
would ever convict him.
Post by Dan Bloomquist
First my father then my mother died of cancer. I know more about this
stuff than you think....
The fact that they are dead meant you didn't know enough.
I've had relatives die of cancer too, and they all went the chemo,
radiation route. My own personal study says that shit don't work except
to empty out your bank account and make doctors rich.
Wile doing a CT scan for another problem they found a strange growth
near my heart. Did an exploratory for a biopsy but decided to remove it
all nevertheless. Found it to be thymus tissue and malignant. Keep
looking at it with CT scans every 6 months. No symptoms then nor at
present. The surgery was a one day thing and was out of hospital in less
than 24 hours. No radiation or chemotherapy. No problems save things not
related to any cancer. So they don't always ruin your health and just
mitigate your approach to death.
FK
Very lucky for you Fred.
All those years of second hand smoke.
My oldest Aunt on my Father's side died of lung cancer in about 1962.
His older brother from the same thing in about 1980.
My Father in 1985 from what started as lung cancer, moved to liver,
brain, couldn't eat, starved to death.
All lifelong smokers.
The tobacco companies should pay for eternity for their sins.
Over 40 years ago I saw the first direct evidence of basal cell
neoplasms formed as a direct result of a mammal living in a smoke
environment. That was enough for me I cold turkeyed. It wasn't very
difficult for me as I had quit many times before for quite a few months
at a time. Coupled with the cellular evidence was the experience that I
had of shortly before having been sick and wanted a cigarette. First
time I had been feeling sick and exhibited a craving for tobacco. But I
couldn't convince my wife to quit. I've been a widower for nine years
going on ten. 'taint pleasant. She was a delight of my life.
FK
h***@yahoo.com
2008-02-24 01:37:24 UTC
Permalink
The tobacco companies should pay for eternity for their sins.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
So should Rife!!!!!

JW, you do realize that it was your hated AMA and educated medical
researchers that demonstrated a statistical link between smoking and
cancer, or don't you? You do realize that all the the effective
cancert treatments stem from legitimate medical reserach, and that all
of the quack devices such as those promoted by Rife, Abrams and other
quacks shorten the lifespan of those treated with such devices.

For that matter, so should Stanley Meyer, plus every promoter of quack
medical cures (which are demonstrably more life shortening than is
any amount of inhaled second hand cigarette smoke.)

I posted this link previously, but it's worth posting again:

http://www.healthwatcher.net/Quackerywatch/Cancer/Cancer-news/smh001230rife-aus.html

Harry C.
Ralph
2008-02-20 03:46:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
An effective cure that's simple and easy to make, requires very little
and has almost no side effects, that's gotta be HIGHLY ILLEGAL!! lol

Excellent video!!!! Thanks.
k***@yahoo.com
2008-02-21 02:37:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Ralph
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
An effective cure that's simple and easy to make, requires very little
and has almost no side effects, that's gotta be HIGHLY ILLEGAL!! lol
Excellent video!!!! Thanks.
Dandelion root is also reputed to cure cancer.
How hard is it to grow dandelions?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22dandelion+root%22&btnG=Google+Search
http://www.rense.com/general74/DANDI.HTM
h***@yahoo.com
2008-02-24 02:49:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
JW, how exactly do drug companies make billions on your death.
Realize that this is as idotic as saying they kill off their most
profitable marketplace by causing the death of users of their
products.

No wonder you didn't do well in business, and invested your money with
crackpots like Stan Meyer!!!!

Are you also going to scream "I've been poisoned" when you suffer a
fatal attack of one thing or another, which will of course happen
someday.

If you want to estimate what your age will be at death, examine that
of your ancestors and apply a correction that factors in the nature of
their employment and lifestyles. If your father lived to be 75, thanks
to improvement is modern medical science, you may make it to 80. If
you are of a very passive nature and have led a stress-free life
(which I doubt is you), you could even make it to 90.

It's mostly your genetic makeup and personal history that determines
your lifespan, assuming that you die from natural causes. Also, cancer
and heart disease are the primary killers today, becasue advances in
medical sciences can today cure most other diseases that were the
major killers before the 1950s. JW, you will die from some cause...and
nothing you can do will avert that fact.


- - - - - - - -

Remember that carefully avoiding quack medical cures and seeing a
qualified medical professional regularly, plus when you have a
problem, will maximize your lifespan. Don't take my word on this,
simply check with an insurance company and look up the actuarial
tables. On top of all this, if you are of an "A" type personality and
over 65, it's not a good idea to purchase multi-year magazine
subscriptiions...if over 72, don't purchase 'green banannas'. :-)
(That last sentence was intended to be humor.) [By the way JW, God
Willing, I will be 70 this March, have smoked unfiltered cigarettes
since I was 14 (Camels), and have spent most of my professional career
working around ionizing radiation and with carcinogenic chemicals. I
nearly died 3-years ago, but survived the divertriculitis surgery that
removed 13" of my large intestine after I had lost over 90-lbs in
half a year. Guess what the cause was determine to be? No, not
smoking, radiation or chemical exposure, but from my diet which was
too rich in fiber and nuts. No cancer, but during the biopsy of the
removed tissue residue from fiber and nut fragment was determine to be
the origin when combined with the stress of losing a close relative. I
recovered to a 90% functional level, and went outsife and cleared 10"
of snow from our driveway and walk earlier today. Were it not for the
miracles of modern medical science, I wouldn't be writing this.)

For what it's worth, up to that time I had thought that a diet rich in
nuts and fiber was supposed to be healthy!

JW, since you are now growing older, I thought that I should share
this with you. Had I listened to the quacks and submitted to their
quackery, I wouldn't be alive today. (Trust me, the quack have a way
of finding people in desperation...I really don't know how but suspect
that they have some sort of a spy networks implanted into the HMOs. I
trust the medical professionals, but no longer can trust the HMOs (run
by insurance companys). The fact is that it is more cost effective to
send you to some alternative therapy, then to bite the bullet and pay
for the cost of surgery in a major hospital.

The HMOs do play hardball. I made the decision to have the surgery
performed after speaking off-the-record with my gastroenterologist,
but it was only after my son threated the HMO with a lawsuit were I to
die, that they finally gave consent after them after stalling for half
a year. I've never seen the actual fax that he sent to them, but it
must have been rather compelling since I received a call 2-hours later
at 7 pm providing authorization and referrals for my surgery!!!

I'm posting this later information for the benefit of others suffering
from the identical malady, and hopefully not having to deal with
HMOs.

Harry C.
k***@yahoo.com
2008-02-24 04:01:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://www.youtube.com/chrychek
Or, "How the drug companies make billions on your death."
<snip Harry's misinfo and HMO saga>

Maybe Rife can't help nut shells but it can kill bactria which causes
cancer.
http://rense.com/general80/proof.htm

Even More Proof Cancer
Is Caused By Bacteria
Alan Cantwell, MD
2-23-8


From: Alan Cantwell
Date: February 23, 2008 2:46:58 PM PST
To: Greg Blaney
Cc: Trevor Marshall
Subject: Re: "Acne bacteria" (P.acnes) repeatedly found in prostate
cancer!! More proof of "cancer bacteria"!!

To Greg Blaney, MD:

Thanks for notifying me regarding this important paper published in
the Journal of Clinical Microbiology in Nov, 2007......more proof that
"cancer bacteria" are involved in cancer -- and particularly in
prostate cancer -- now if only we could get pathologists to see these
bacteria in acid-fast stained sections of prostate ca -- as noted by
me in my partner's tissue sections taken from his prostate cancer when
his prostate gland was removed in 2004 - and pictured below in the
paper published in the Journal of Independent Medical Research
(www.joimr.org) in 2004.

As you note -- from abstracts you attached below, this is NOT the
first time Propioniobacterium acnes has been associated with prostate
cancer......it amazes me that this research is largely ignored by
urologists (and also by the media) -- like Helicobacter pyloris in
stomach ulcers was ignored for decades by physicians.

With prostate cancer being an older man's worst nightmare -- one would
expect greater interest in this!

Best regards,
ALAN CANTWELL, MD


On Feb 23, 2008, at 9:10 AM, Greg Blaney wrote:

1: J Clin Microbiol. 2007 Nov;45(11):3721-8. Epub 2007 Sep 19. Links
Direct visualization of Propionibacterium acnes in prostate tissue by
multicolor fluorescent in situ hybridization assay.

Alexeyev OA, Marklund I, Shannon B, Golovleva I, Olsson J, Andersson
C, Eriksson I, Cohen R, Elgh F.
Department of Pathology, Umeå University, S-90185, Umeå, Sweden.
***@medbio.umu.se

Prostate tissues from patients with prostate cancer and benign
prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) frequently contain histological
inflammation, and a proportion of these patients show evidence of
Propionibacterium acnes infection in the prostate gland.
<snip>
Dan Bloomquist
2008-02-24 06:08:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Maybe Rife can't help nut shells but it can kill bactria which causes
cancer.
Peer review? Oh, right, the 'establishment' suppresses.....

I'm getting tiered of feeding a troll.....

You should get with the tent city you so are saying is the enemy. The
friend? Gads you are stupid....

As you won't get your head out of your ass... You figure....
k***@yahoo.com
2008-02-24 06:30:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Maybe Rife can't help nut shells but it can kill bactria which causes
cancer.
Peer review? Oh, right, the 'establishment' suppresses.....
I'm getting tiered of feeding a troll.....
And I'm tired of doing all the reading.
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=royal+rife&sa=Search&domains=rense.com&sitesearch=rense.com
Post by Dan Bloomquist
You should get with the tent city you so are saying is the enemy. The
friend? Gads you are stupid....
In English please.
Myal
2008-02-24 08:08:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dan Bloomquist
Post by k***@yahoo.com
Maybe Rife can't help nut shells but it can kill bactria which causes
cancer.
Peer review? Oh, right, the 'establishment' suppresses.....
I'm getting tiered of feeding a troll.....
You should get with the tent city you so are saying is the enemy. The
friend? Gads you are stupid....
As you won't get your head out of your ass... You figure....
cervix cancer vacination , its known to be caused by bacteria

if one cancer is know to be at least bacteria caused , why not more ?
k***@yahoo.com
2008-03-01 19:11:25 UTC
Permalink
http://rense.com/general81/chemo.htm

Chemo A FRAUD -
More Evidence
It's WORTHLESS
3-1-8


".....RESULTS: The overall contribution of curative and adjuvant
cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adults was estimated to
be 2.3% in Australia and 2.1% in the USA. CONCLUSION: As the 5-year
relative survival rate for cancer in Australia is now over 60%, it is
clear that cytotoxic chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to
cancer survival. To justify the continued funding and availability of
drugs used in cytotoxic chemotherapy, a rigorous evaluation of the
cost-effectiveness and impact on quality of life is urgently
required."

Chemotherapy...the massive, evil poisoning of the already immuno-
suppressed human body...remains one of the most barbaric, criminal
undertakings of modern 'medicine' against the human species. The cost
of the average chemotherapy regimen: $300,000 to $1,000,000. It's ALL
about MONEY and PROFITS. YOU are worthless to the AMA-Pharma death
machine. The FAKE war on cancer has raised over a trillion dollars to
date and now one out of every TWO Americans will be confronted with
cancer at some point. Most of all, the criminal 'war on cancer' has
made a lot of people wealthy. It is, without question, one of the
biggest hoaxes in human history.

There are MANY cures for cancer, from Rife to Essiac to Ozone to Hoxey
to Glyconutrients to the simple cessation of poisoning one's body with
meat, dairy and processed foods loaded with MSG and countless other
carcinogens. This particular article is but one of many showing that
chemo (and radiation) do NOT extend the life of one cancer patient
over another with the same cancer who does NOTHING. To devastate a
body trying to cope with a disease by poisoning the hell out of it is
beyond something from the Dark Ages.

So, when your 'doctor' tells you a tumor can be 'shrunk' ask him/her
how that actually translates to ANY increase in survival. The vast
majority of times chemotherapy will only HASTEN death...and utterly
destroy the quality of life until then.

While chemo can shrink some tumors, the devastating cycotoxic nature
of chemo 'therapy' further destroys the patients already compromised
and failing immune system causing an even quicker demise. Until and
unless the patient takes the responsibility for his or her OWN health
and stops poisoning their own body...and begins to study so-called
'alternative' approaches to recovery...there is virtually no hope for
true healing. Cancer doesn't just 'happen'...it is CAUSED by diet,
lifestyle, stress, anxiety and environmental toxins in the work place
and home.

Do a search for Rife and Ozone and Essiac. Read NotMilk.com and
NoMilk.com. Read MadCowboy.com and MeatStinks.com. And others.
Educate yourself if you want to
live. By all means, see the new Rife Documentary (http://
www.zerozerotwo.org) and prepare to be outraged beyond your worst
imaginings. -JR

Comment in:
Clin Oncol (R Coll Radiol).
2005 Jun;17(4):294.

The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult
malignancies.

Morgan G,
Ward R,
Barton M.

Department of Radiation Oncology, Northern Sydney Cancer Centre, Royal
North Shore Hospital, Sydney, NSW, Australia.
***@bigpond.net.au

AIMS: The debate on the funding and availability of cytotoxic drugs
raises questions about the contribution of curative or adjuvant
cytotoxic chemotherapy to survival in adult cancer patients. MATERIALS
AND METHODS: We undertook a literature search for randomised clinical
trials reporting a 5-year survival benefit attributable solely to
cytotoxic chemotherapy in adult malignancies. The total number of
newly diagnosed cancer patients for 22 major adult malignancies was
determined from cancer registry data in Australia and from the
Surveillance Epidemiology and End Results data in the USA for 1998.
For each malignancy, the absolute number to benefit was the product of
(a) the total number of persons with that malignancy; (b) the
proportion or subgroup(s) of that malignancy showing a benefit; and
(c) the percentage increase in 5-year survival due solely to cytotoxic
chemotherapy. The overall contribution was the sum total of the
absolute numbers showing a 5-year survival benefit expressed as a
percentage of the total number for the 22 malignancies. RESULTS: The
overall contribution of curative and adjuvant cytotoxic chemotherapy
to 5-year survival in adults was estimated to be 2.3% in Australia and
2.1% in the USA. CONCLUSION: As the 5-year relative survival rate for
cancer in Australia is now over 60%, it is clear that cytotoxic
chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to cancer survival. To
justify the continued funding and availability of drugs used in
cytotoxic chemotherapy, a rigorous evaluation of the cost-
effectiveness and impact on quality of life is urgently required.

PMID: 15630849 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15630849?ordinalpos=1&itool=Entrez
System2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
Real Patriot
2008-03-02 16:13:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by k***@yahoo.com
http://rense.com/general81/chemo.htm
Chemo A FRAUD -
More Evidence
It's WORTHLESS
3-1-8
".....RESULTS: The overall contribution of curative and adjuvant
cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adults was estimated to
be 2.3% in Australia and 2.1% in the USA. CONCLUSION: As the 5-year
relative survival rate for cancer in Australia is now over 60%, it is
clear that cytotoxic chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to
cancer survival. To justify the continued funding and availability of
drugs used in cytotoxic chemotherapy, a rigorous evaluation of the
cost-effectiveness and impact on quality of life is urgently
required."
Chemotherapy...the massive, evil poisoning of the already immuno-
suppressed human body...remains one of the most barbaric, criminal
undertakings of modern 'medicine' against the human species. The cost
of the average chemotherapy regimen: $300,000 to $1,000,000. It's ALL
about MONEY and PROFITS. YOU are worthless to the AMA-Pharma death
machine. The FAKE war on cancer has raised over a trillion dollars to
date and now one out of every TWO Americans will be confronted with
cancer at some point. Most of all, the criminal 'war on cancer' has
made a lot of people wealthy. It is, without question, one of the
biggest hoaxes in human history.
There are MANY cures for cancer, from Rife to Essiac to Ozone to Hoxey
to Glyconutrients to the simple cessation of poisoning one's body with
meat, dairy and processed foods loaded with MSG and countless other
carcinogens. This particular article is but one of many showing that
chemo (and radiation) do NOT extend the life of one cancer patient
over another with the same cancer who does NOTHING. To devastate a
body trying to cope with a disease by poisoning the hell out of it is
beyond something from the Dark Ages.
So, when your 'doctor' tells you a tumor can be 'shrunk' ask him/her
how that actually translates to ANY increase in survival. The vast
majority of times chemotherapy will only HASTEN death...and utterly
destroy the quality of life until then.
While chemo can shrink some tumors, the devastating cycotoxic nature
of chemo 'therapy' further destroys the patients already compromised
and failing immune system causing an even quicker demise. Until and
unless the patient takes the responsibility for his or her OWN health
and stops poisoning their own body...and begins to study so-called
'alternative' approaches to recovery...there is virtually no hope for
true healing. Cancer doesn't just 'happen'...it is CAUSED by diet,
lifestyle, stress, anxiety and environmental toxins in the work place
and home.
Do a search for Rife and Ozone and Essiac. Read NotMilk.com and
NoMilk.com. Read MadCowboy.com and MeatStinks.com. And others.
Educate yourself if you want to
live. By all means, see the new Rife Documentary (http://www.zerozerotwo.org) and prepare to be outraged beyond your worst
imaginings. -JR
Clin Oncol (R Coll Radiol).
2005 Jun;17(4):294.
The contribution of cytotoxic chemotherapy to 5-year survival in adult
malignancies.
Morgan G,
Ward R,
Barton M.
Department of Radiation Oncology, Northern Sydney Cancer Centre, Royal
North Shore Hospital, Sydney, NSW, Australia.
AIMS: The debate on the funding and availability of cytotoxic drugs
raises questions about the contribution of curative or adjuvant
cytotoxic chemotherapy to survival in adult cancer patients. MATERIALS
AND METHODS: We undertook a literature search for randomised clinical
trials reporting a 5-year survival benefit attributable solely to
cytotoxic chemotherapy in adult malignancies. The total number of
newly diagnosed cancer patients for 22 major adult malignancies was
determined from cancer registry data in Australia and from the
Surveillance Epidemiology and End Results data in the USA for 1998.
For each malignancy, the absolute number to benefit was the product of
(a) the total number of persons with that malignancy; (b) the
proportion or subgroup(s) of that malignancy showing a benefit; and
(c) the percentage increase in 5-year survival due solely to cytotoxic
chemotherapy. The overall contribution was the sum total of the
absolute numbers showing a 5-year survival benefit expressed as a
percentage of the total number for the 22 malignancies. RESULTS: The
overall contribution of curative and adjuvant cytotoxic chemotherapy
to 5-year survival in adults was estimated to be 2.3% in Australia and
2.1% in the USA. CONCLUSION: As the 5-year relative survival rate for
cancer in Australia is now over 60%, it is clear that cytotoxic
chemotherapy only makes a minor contribution to cancer survival. To
justify the continued funding and availability of drugs used in
cytotoxic chemotherapy, a rigorous evaluation of the cost-
effectiveness and impact on quality of life is urgently required.
I use apricot pits from a Nogales, Mexico clinic mixed with a special
herbal elixir, cures cancer every time.

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