Discussion:
CSJ defamation article : which sentence is defamatory ?
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kingkong
2006-04-26 12:10:59 UTC
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Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.

So which part of article is incorrect or false ?

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Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations

[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.

[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.


[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)

[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.

[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.

[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.

[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.

[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.

[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.

[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.

[12] It is about greed and power.

[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.

[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.

[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.

[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.

[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
must:

[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.

[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.

[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.

[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.

[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.

[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
Yoyo
2006-04-26 12:19:29 UTC
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Based on my own [very learnt] judgment, non are defamatory. Neither Father
nor Son's names were mentioned.
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
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George Soros
2006-04-26 12:26:21 UTC
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Many imputations are.
Post by Yoyo
Based on my own [very learnt] judgment, non are defamatory. Neither Father
nor Son's names were mentioned.
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
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Yaya
2006-04-26 12:32:09 UTC
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Agree, sound like question with the fact.

I guess they are using the scare-tactic to stop opposition from using
NKF saga to score points.

We shall see the opposition has the gut to bring up the issue. It is
obvious they want to play down the NKF saga, as it is quite similar
case.
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
.·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
2006-04-26 12:38:14 UTC
Permalink
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
yansimon52
2006-04-26 12:51:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
This guy got the guts.............sgian should take off their hats on
him
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
Kantian
2006-04-26 13:02:52 UTC
Permalink
he should be elected, then we'll see real debate in parliament, not the
wayang wayang always.
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
This guy got the guts.............sgian should take off their hats on
him
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
lobert....
2006-04-27 00:13:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kantian
he should be elected, then we'll see real debate in parliament, not the
wayang wayang always.
JBJ was also "elected" as NCMP but was kicked out
when he was made bankrupt.
George Soros
2006-04-26 23:15:23 UTC
Permalink
Yeah........... he is brave.
I would be braver if I were bankrupt n with super support from
Socialist International.

On 26 Apr 2006 05:38:14 -0700, ".·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
truth
2006-04-27 13:23:31 UTC
Permalink
No body stopping u from following in his path.
Post by George Soros
Yeah........... he is brave.
I would be braver if I were bankrupt n with super support from
Socialist International.
On 26 Apr 2006 05:38:14 -0700, ".·:*šš*:·. ® George Ramayah T
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
George Soros
2006-04-28 01:27:54 UTC
Permalink
Who asked for your fucking opinion?
Post by truth
No body stopping u from following in his path.
Post by George Soros
Yeah........... he is brave.
I would be braver if I were bankrupt n with super support from
Socialist International.
lobert....
2006-04-27 00:11:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
Even if he wants to join Francis Seow and Tang
Ling Hong, his passport has been taken away
already, unless he can do it like Tan Wah Piow.
George Soros
2006-04-27 01:22:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by lobert....
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
Even if he wants to join Francis Seow and Tang
Ling Hong, his passport has been taken away
already, unless he can do it like Tan Wah Piow.
He's got frens in UK n Oz to give him passport and fundings....
The Cynic
2006-04-27 12:18:50 UTC
Permalink
Chiam cannot be compared to Francis Seow or Tang Liang Hong . It is like
comparing glass beads with diamonds. You must remember that they never
destroyed any opposition party like what CSJ did to Chiam's SDP. Next,
because of his nefarious article his fellow committee members are in deep
shit. Francis and Tang did not subject their party members to such misery.
CSJ is a jinx to the opposition.
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
George Soros
2006-04-27 13:04:32 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:18:50 +0800, "The Cynic"
Post by The Cynic
Chiam cannot be compared to Francis Seow or Tang Liang Hong . It is like
More like comparing fart with shit!!
Post by The Cynic
comparing glass beads with diamonds. You must remember that they never
destroyed any opposition party like what CSJ did to Chiam's SDP. Next,
because of his nefarious article his fellow committee members are in deep
shit. Francis and Tang did not subject their party members to such misery.
CSJ is a jinx to the opposition.
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
truth
2006-04-27 13:24:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by George Soros
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:18:50 +0800, "The Cynic"
Post by The Cynic
Chiam cannot be compared to Francis Seow or Tang Liang Hong . It is like
More like comparing fart with shit!!
A reflection of a sick and dirty mind.
Post by George Soros
Post by The Cynic
comparing glass beads with diamonds. You must remember that they never
destroyed any opposition party like what CSJ did to Chiam's SDP. Next,
because of his nefarious article his fellow committee members are in deep
shit. Francis and Tang did not subject their party members to such misery.
CSJ is a jinx to the opposition.
".·:*šš*:·. ® George Ramayah T .·:*šš*:·."
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a
scandal
is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the
innocent
and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers
as
a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
George Soros
2006-04-28 01:29:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by truth
Post by George Soros
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:18:50 +0800, "The Cynic"
Post by The Cynic
Chiam cannot be compared to Francis Seow or Tang Liang Hong . It is like
More like comparing fart with shit!!
A reflection of a sick and dirty mind.
LOL unlike any healthy person, you do NOT fart; you do NOT shit!
Doing so is "sick and dirty"?
AleXX
2006-04-28 12:43:22 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:29:28 +0800, George Soros
Post by George Soros
LOL unlike any healthy person, you do NOT fart; you do NOT shit!
Doing so is "sick and dirty"?
He also doesn't like breasts & nipples.......he is the Abo's Holy
Man
George Soros
2006-04-28 22:52:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by AleXX
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:29:28 +0800, George Soros
Post by George Soros
LOL unlike any healthy person, you do NOT fart; you do NOT shit!
Doing so is "sick and dirty"?
He also doesn't like breasts & nipples.......he is the Abo's Holy
Man
He is oso abo holely man: one whose hole is given freely........
AleXX
2006-04-27 17:34:19 UTC
Permalink
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:04:32 +0800, George Soros
Post by George Soros
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:18:50 +0800, "The Cynic"
Post by The Cynic
Chiam cannot be compared to Francis Seow or Tang Liang Hong . It is like
More like comparing fart with shit!!
Which one is the shit?
George Soros
2006-04-28 01:29:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by AleXX
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:04:32 +0800, George Soros
Post by George Soros
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:18:50 +0800, "The Cynic"
Post by The Cynic
Chiam cannot be compared to Francis Seow or Tang Liang Hong . It is like
More like comparing fart with shit!!
Which one is the shit?
....Tang Liang Hong aka truth
AleXX
2006-04-28 16:35:23 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:29:56 +0800, George Soros
Post by George Soros
Post by AleXX
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:04:32 +0800, George Soros
Post by George Soros
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:18:50 +0800, "The Cynic"
Post by The Cynic
Chiam cannot be compared to Francis Seow or Tang Liang Hong . It is like
More like comparing fart with shit!!
Which one is the shit?
....Tang Liang Hong aka truth
LOL...emitting poisonous gas........
George Soros
2006-04-28 22:53:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by AleXX
On Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:29:56 +0800, George Soros
Post by George Soros
Post by AleXX
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 21:04:32 +0800, George Soros
Post by George Soros
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:18:50 +0800, "The Cynic"
Post by The Cynic
Chiam cannot be compared to Francis Seow or Tang Liang Hong . It is like
More like comparing fart with shit!!
Which one is the shit?
....Tang Liang Hong aka truth
LOL...emitting poisonous gas........
he still thinks it is golden arrow of hope..... Goebbel, watch out!!
Tweety
2006-04-27 14:00:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Cynic
Chiam cannot be compared to Francis Seow or Tang Liang Hong . It is like
comparing glass beads with diamonds. You must remember that they never
destroyed any opposition party like what CSJ did to Chiam's SDP. Next,
because of his nefarious article his fellow committee members are in deep
shit. Francis and Tang did not subject their party members to such misery.
CSJ is a jinx to the opposition.
There will be more Francis and Tang after the GE and we will be rich again.

.
jonan
2006-04-27 15:23:55 UTC
Permalink
This "neigh kor chee". I totally lost faith in the suicidal idiot who not
got himself into deep shit, which he totally deserve it, he also got his
party mates to die with him. Must find out what medication he gave his party
mates that made them lose their minds did his biddings.news.starhub.net.sg
Post by The Cynic
Chiam cannot be compared to Francis Seow or Tang Liang Hong . It is like
comparing glass beads with diamonds. You must remember that they never
destroyed any opposition party like what CSJ did to Chiam's SDP. Next,
because of his nefarious article his fellow committee members are in deep
shit. Francis and Tang did not subject their party members to such
misery. CSJ is a jinx to the opposition.
".·:*šš*:·. ® George Ramayah T .·:*šš*:·."
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
ardeedee
2006-04-27 15:44:05 UTC
Permalink
What was the defamatory article - did you read it?
Post by jonan
This "neigh kor chee". I totally lost faith in the suicidal idiot who not
got himself into deep shit, which he totally deserve it, he also got his
party mates to die with him. Must find out what medication he gave his party
mates that made them lose their minds did his biddings.news.starhub.net.sg
Post by The Cynic
Chiam cannot be compared to Francis Seow or Tang Liang Hong . It is like
comparing glass beads with diamonds. You must remember that they never
destroyed any opposition party like what CSJ did to Chiam's SDP. Next,
because of his nefarious article his fellow committee members are in deep
shit. Francis and Tang did not subject their party members to such
misery. CSJ is a jinx to the opposition.
".·:*šš*:·. ® George Ramayah T .·:*šš*:·."
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------------
Post by jonan
Post by The Cynic
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a
scandal
Post by jonan
Post by The Cynic
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system,
bred
Post by jonan
Post by The Cynic
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the
innocent
Post by jonan
Post by The Cynic
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia
report
Post by jonan
Post by The Cynic
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng
Kiang,
Post by jonan
Post by The Cynic
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went
on
Post by jonan
Post by The Cynic
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers
as
Post by jonan
Post by The Cynic
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
yansimon52
2006-04-28 01:28:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Cynic
Chiam cannot be compared to Francis Seow or Tang Liang Hong . It is like
comparing glass beads with diamonds. You must remember that they never
destroyed any opposition party like what CSJ did to Chiam's SDP. Next,
because of his nefarious article his fellow committee members are in deep
shit. Francis and Tang did not subject their party members to such misery.
CSJ is a jinx to the opposition.
Quite agrees with you.........cause, he always barking at the wrong
tree.....probably, either don't have good assistance or he don't have a
lawyer type of mentality....

Anyway, what he is doing may help other oposition parties............
With him painted as a black sheep in the eye of old man...it may oso
indirectly, bring up other opposition parties status of being a 'good
guy' to the PAP...
In this way, PAP cannot anyhow accuse every opposition parties being
the likes of CSJ what?
Wahhhhhh, this time round, most of the opposition members come with
good background, people with responsibility and integrity..........no
more those taxi man or Ah Beng type where, PAP could tekan their
background.....
Post by The Cynic
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
Yoyo
2006-04-26 14:18:56 UTC
Permalink
He sufered for a Singaporean cause. He is a political martyr. My respect and
hat off for him.
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
This guy got the guts.............sgian should take off their hats on
him
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and
government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were
unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over
the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal
is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred
by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent
and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in
reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by
telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report
on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang,
said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something
was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose
not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on
its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look
into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate
with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top
dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as
a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and
equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the
Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and
the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek
Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and
fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over
the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
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The Bishop
2006-04-26 16:31:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by Yoyo
He sufered for a Singaporean cause. He is a political martyr. My respect and
hat off for him.
You should not embarrass you keyboard and mouse this way. You could
have just threw them away and buy another one ........
Post by Yoyo
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
This guy got the guts.............sgian should take off their hats on
him
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and
government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were
unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over
the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal
is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred
by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent
and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in
reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by
telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report
on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang,
said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something
was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose
not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on
its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look
into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate
with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top
dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as
a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and
equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the
Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and
the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek
Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and
fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over
the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
Tweety
2006-04-26 16:38:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Bishop
Post by Yoyo
He sufered for a Singaporean cause. He is a political martyr. My respect and
hat off for him.
You should not embarrass you keyboard and mouse this way. You could
have just threw them away and buy another one ........
Vote for Madcow you olso get free key board including a brand new AMD 4 gig
and a 24" LCD monitor.
Post by The Bishop
Post by Yoyo
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
This guy got the guts.............sgian should take off their hats on
him
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and
government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were
unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over
the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal
is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred
by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent
and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in
reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by
telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report
on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang,
said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something
was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose
not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on
its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look
into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate
with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top
dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as
a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and
equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the
Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and
the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek
Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and
fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over
the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
truth
2006-04-27 13:25:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by The Bishop
Post by Yoyo
He sufered for a Singaporean cause. He is a political martyr. My respect and
hat off for him.
You should not embarrass you keyboard and mouse this way. You could
have just threw them away and buy another one ........
Papish meaningless rubbish.
Post by The Bishop
Post by Yoyo
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
CSJ is slowly becoming a Singapore hero. Francis Seow, Tang Ling Hong
all ran but he stond his ground here in Singapore to face the PAP
This guy got the guts.............sgian should take off their hats on
him
Post by .·:*¨¨*:·. ® George Ramayah ™ .·:*¨¨*:·.
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and
government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were
unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over
the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal
is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred
by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent
and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in
reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by
telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report
on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang,
said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something
was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose
not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on
its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look
into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate
with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top
dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as
a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and
equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the
Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and
the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek
Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and
fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over
the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***
RoadRunner
2006-04-26 15:15:37 UTC
Permalink
It is indeed defaming as declared by four SDP members and one SDP printer.
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
Post by kingkong
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
Yaya
2006-04-28 16:49:44 UTC
Permalink
These guy got their balls shrunk in front of the threat.
Post by RoadRunner
It is indeed defaming as declared by four SDP members and one SDP printer.
Post by kingkong
Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------
Post by kingkong
Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal
is
Post by kingkong
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent
and
Post by kingkong
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang,
said
Post by kingkong
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on
its
Post by kingkong
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate
with
Post by kingkong
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top
dollar,
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no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and
equality"
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should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the
Government
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[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek
Holdings
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and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
Pangkor
2006-04-26 15:28:04 UTC
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The standard of English is too high for the average Singaporean to
comprehend. However, perhaps it could be translated into Mandarin.
Should we Altavista Babel it?
The Bishop
2006-04-26 16:31:54 UTC
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On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:10:59 +0800, "kingkong"
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Here's the article by Chee SJ that is known to defame PAP and government.
So which part of article is incorrect or false ?
Much more than a handful. The plaintiff will just relax and amuse
himself while his lawyers have a field day ......
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Govt's role in the NKF scandal
1] Ministers went out their way to defend NKF even as people were unhappy
over the organisation's operations
[2] In all the hand-wringing and breast-beating by the Government over the
NKF issue, Singaporeans must not lose sight of one thing: Such a scandal is
inevitable given the kind of secretive and non-accountable system, bred by
the PAP.
[3] The Government now tries to exonerate itself by playing the innocent and
gullible party duped by greedy NKF officials.
[4] It forgets that in April 2004, Minister Khaw Boon Wan had, in reaction
to public unease about the NKF, sought to appease Singaporeans by telling
them that the Ministry of Finance "would have reacted many years ago" if
there was any breach of rules by the NKF. (See Channel News Asia report on
right.)
[5] At the same time the Second Minister for Finance, Mr Lim Hng Kiang, said
that the NKF had "quite a sound record" because it spends "ore than 80
percent of its funds on its beneficiaries" (See Straits Times report on
right) whom we now know are not kidney patients.
[6] Clearly, alarm bells were raised. People could see that something was
wrong and they had expressed their unhappiness over the years.
[7] And yet, the Government which had the power to do something, chose not
to.
[8] Not only did it choose not to rein in NKF but it also continued to
praise the charity and encouraged people to donate to it.
[9] With assurances from not one but two Ministers, the charity went on its
merry way.
[10] The question that is on everyone's lips is: If Mr TT Durai had not
taken out the legal suit, would the Government have bothered to look into
the NKF records? NKF would in all likelihood have continued to operate with
the Government's blessings.
[11] The NKF fiasco is not about bad practices. It is not even about
negligence on the Government's part.
[12] It is about greed and power.
[13] It is about the idea that the political elite must be paid top dollar,
no matter how obscene those amounts are and regardless of who suffers as a
result of it.
[14] It is about a system engineered over the decades by the PAP that
ensures that it and only it has access to public information and by fiat
decides what is allowed and what is not.
[15] It is about what a "democratic society, based on justice and equality"
should not be.
[16] Singaporeans must note that the NKF is not an aberration of the PAP
system. It is, instead, a product of it.
[17] To ensure that there is transparency and that Singaporeans are kept
informed of matters directly affecting them and their future, the Government
[18] One, disclose the breakdown of the cost of building HDB flats and the
profits HDB makes.
[19] Two, reveal where and how GIC uses our savings.
[20] Three, disclose the salaries of the top executives of Temasek Holdings
and other GLCs.
[21] Four, declare the assets and incomes of its Ministers.
[22] Five, reform the election system to ensure that it is free and fair.
[23] It goes without saying that someone must be held accountable over the
sordid NKF affair. However, real accountability starts much higher up.
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