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Summer's diabetes
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MartinS
2021-08-01 23:10:11 UTC
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In the recent episode where Todd (boo, hiss!) finds Summer passed out
because she has skipped her insulin shots and has been drinking sweet
cider, he says "She was having a hypo."

If she had an excess of blood sugar, that would be a HYPERglycemic
event. Coversely, a HYPO is a result of taking too much insulin, or not
consuming enough calories after an insulin dose. Although both are
serious conditions, hypoglycemia is more life-threatening than
hyperglycemia in the short term. If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.

I assume Summer has type 1 diabetes, which usually develops in childhood
or adolescence, in which the body produces no insulin of its own. With
type 2, which I have, the body's natural insulin level is low, but it
can be managed with synthetic insulin, as well as other medications,
diet and exercise.

This plot has echoes of teenager Katy Harris, who also had type 1
diabetes. She arrived with her family under a witness protection
programme in 2002. In 2005, after accidentally killing her father Tommy,
she committed suicide by drinking sugared water. It might have been
quicker if she had overdosed on insulin!

Incidentally, Thomas Craig, who played Tommy Harris, is well known in
Canada as a police inspector on Murdoch Mysteries, set in 1890s Toronto,
which has been running on CBC since 2008. And Richard Fleesman, who
played Katy's brother Craig Harris, went on to be a successful actor,
musician and singer-sonwriter. Richard's father David, sister Emily and
mother Sue Jenkins have all appeared on Corrie.
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Martin S
kat
2021-08-02 08:32:47 UTC
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Post by MartinS
In the recent episode where Todd (boo, hiss!) finds Summer passed out
because she has skipped her insulin shots and has been drinking sweet
cider, he says "She was having a hypo."
If she had an excess of blood sugar, that would be a HYPERglycemic
event. Coversely, a HYPO is a result of taking too much insulin, or not
consuming enough calories after an insulin dose. Although both are
serious conditions, hypoglycemia is more life-threatening than
hyperglycemia in the short term. If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.
I assume Summer has type 1 diabetes, which usually develops in childhood
or adolescence, in which the body produces no insulin of its own. With
type 2, which I have, the body's natural insulin level is low, but it
can be managed with synthetic insulin, as well as other medications,
diet and exercise.
Summer has to inject herself several times a day, so yeah, type 1, and she must
normally be eating enough as she is complaining about putting on weight. I
thought the same thing about what Todd said because we knew what she had been
drinking!

I know if it is a hypo - feed them something sweet. But if the are unconcious I
wouldn't know if it was hypo or hyper!
Post by MartinS
This plot has echoes of teenager Katy Harris, who also had type 1
diabetes. She arrived with her family under a witness protection
programme in 2002. In 2005, after accidentally killing her father Tommy,
she committed suicide by drinking sugared water. It might have been
quicker if she had overdosed on insulin!
Incidentally, Thomas Craig, who played Tommy Harris, is well known in
Canada as a police inspector on Murdoch Mysteries, set in 1890s Toronto,
which has been running on CBC since 2008. And Richard Fleesman, who
played Katy's brother Craig Harris, went on to be a successful actor,
musician and singer-sonwriter. Richard's father David, sister Emily and
mother Sue Jenkins have all appeared on Corrie.
That family gets about. :-)

You left out that Katie was played by Lucy-Jo Hudson and was married to Alan
Halsall ( Tyrone) !
--
kat
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Lucretia Borgia
2021-08-02 11:41:06 UTC
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Post by kat
Post by MartinS
In the recent episode where Todd (boo, hiss!) finds Summer passed out
because she has skipped her insulin shots and has been drinking sweet
cider, he says "She was having a hypo."
If she had an excess of blood sugar, that would be a HYPERglycemic
event. Coversely, a HYPO is a result of taking too much insulin, or not
consuming enough calories after an insulin dose. Although both are
serious conditions, hypoglycemia is more life-threatening than
hyperglycemia in the short term. If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.
I assume Summer has type 1 diabetes, which usually develops in childhood
or adolescence, in which the body produces no insulin of its own. With
type 2, which I have, the body's natural insulin level is low, but it
can be managed with synthetic insulin, as well as other medications,
diet and exercise.
Summer has to inject herself several times a day, so yeah, type 1, and she must
normally be eating enough as she is complaining about putting on weight. I
thought the same thing about what Todd said because we knew what she had been
drinking!
I wondered why they wouldn't get her that gizmo that they put on the
arm then she just holds her phone to it and it tells her what her
levels are and the correct dosage of insulin she needs. A friend has
one and says she has never felt so good as she does now, likely
because even after all these years she got casual about it.
Post by kat
I know if it is a hypo - feed them something sweet. But if the are unconcious I
wouldn't know if it was hypo or hyper!
Post by MartinS
This plot has echoes of teenager Katy Harris, who also had type 1
diabetes. She arrived with her family under a witness protection
programme in 2002. In 2005, after accidentally killing her father Tommy,
she committed suicide by drinking sugared water. It might have been
quicker if she had overdosed on insulin!
Incidentally, Thomas Craig, who played Tommy Harris, is well known in
Canada as a police inspector on Murdoch Mysteries, set in 1890s Toronto,
which has been running on CBC since 2008. And Richard Fleesman, who
played Katy's brother Craig Harris, went on to be a successful actor,
musician and singer-sonwriter. Richard's father David, sister Emily and
mother Sue Jenkins have all appeared on Corrie.
I've seen a few Murdoch Mysteries but didn't know that!
Post by kat
That family gets about. :-)
You left out that Katie was played by Lucy-Jo Hudson and was married to Alan
Halsall ( Tyrone) !
kat
2021-08-02 19:52:07 UTC
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Post by kat
Post by MartinS
In the recent episode where Todd (boo, hiss!) finds Summer passed out
because she has skipped her insulin shots and has been drinking sweet
cider, he says "She was having a hypo."
If she had an excess of blood sugar, that would be a HYPERglycemic
event. Coversely, a HYPO is a result of taking too much insulin, or not
consuming enough calories after an insulin dose. Although both are
serious conditions, hypoglycemia is more life-threatening than
hyperglycemia in the short term. If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.
I assume Summer has type 1 diabetes, which usually develops in childhood
or adolescence, in which the body produces no insulin of its own. With
type 2, which I have, the body's natural insulin level is low, but it
can be managed with synthetic insulin, as well as other medications,
diet and exercise.
Summer has to inject herself several times a day, so yeah, type 1, and she must
normally be eating enough as she is complaining about putting on weight. I
thought the same thing about what Todd said because we knew what she had been
drinking!
I wondered why they wouldn't get her that gizmo that they put on the
arm then she just holds her phone to it and it tells her what her
levels are and the correct dosage of insulin she needs. A friend has
one and says she has never felt so good as she does now, likely
because even after all these years she got casual about it.
Availability on the NHS maybe, or the cost?

No doubt all the problems will disappear in a little while, to be mentioned
rarely, like David's epilepsy, Tracy's transplant, Nick's head injury etc., so
maybe that's when she "gets" the gizmo. :-)

<snip>
Post by Lucretia Borgia
Post by kat
Post by MartinS
Incidentally, Thomas Craig, who played Tommy Harris, is well known in
Canada as a police inspector on Murdoch Mysteries, set in 1890s Toronto,
which has been running on CBC since 2008. And Richard Fleesman, who
played Katy's brother Craig Harris, went on to be a successful actor,
musician and singer-sonwriter. Richard's father David, sister Emily and
mother Sue Jenkins have all appeared on Corrie.
I've seen a few Murdoch Mysteries but didn't know that!
I have seen trailers so I had noticed.
--
kat
Post by Lucretia Borgia
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Lucretia Borgia
2021-08-02 21:21:26 UTC
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Post by kat
Post by Lucretia Borgia
Post by kat
Post by MartinS
In the recent episode where Todd (boo, hiss!) finds Summer passed out
because she has skipped her insulin shots and has been drinking sweet
cider, he says "She was having a hypo."
If she had an excess of blood sugar, that would be a HYPERglycemic
event. Coversely, a HYPO is a result of taking too much insulin, or not
consuming enough calories after an insulin dose. Although both are
serious conditions, hypoglycemia is more life-threatening than
hyperglycemia in the short term. If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.
I assume Summer has type 1 diabetes, which usually develops in childhood
or adolescence, in which the body produces no insulin of its own. With
type 2, which I have, the body's natural insulin level is low, but it
can be managed with synthetic insulin, as well as other medications,
diet and exercise.
Summer has to inject herself several times a day, so yeah, type 1, and she must
normally be eating enough as she is complaining about putting on weight. I
thought the same thing about what Todd said because we knew what she had been
drinking!
I wondered why they wouldn't get her that gizmo that they put on the
arm then she just holds her phone to it and it tells her what her
levels are and the correct dosage of insulin she needs. A friend has
one and says she has never felt so good as she does now, likely
because even after all these years she got casual about it.
Availability on the NHS maybe, or the cost?
No doubt all the problems will disappear in a little while, to be mentioned
rarely, like David's epilepsy, Tracy's transplant, Nick's head injury etc., so
maybe that's when she "gets" the gizmo. :-)
<snip>
Post by Lucretia Borgia
Post by kat
Post by MartinS
Incidentally, Thomas Craig, who played Tommy Harris, is well known in
Canada as a police inspector on Murdoch Mysteries, set in 1890s Toronto,
which has been running on CBC since 2008. And Richard Fleesman, who
played Katy's brother Craig Harris, went on to be a successful actor,
musician and singer-sonwriter. Richard's father David, sister Emily and
mother Sue Jenkins have all appeared on Corrie.
I've seen a few Murdoch Mysteries but didn't know that!
I have seen trailers so I had noticed.
Not a bad series and nicely done - I usually watched it when waiting
for the programme on :)

How's your summer going over there? Here we have an irritating wind
that gets up mid afternoon, enough to make it unpleasant outside. Also
had much more rain than usual but maybe that has prevented forest
fires here, so shouldn't gripe about it.
Lucretia Borgia
2021-08-02 23:08:13 UTC
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Post by kat
Post by Lucretia Borgia
Post by kat
Post by MartinS
In the recent episode where Todd (boo, hiss!) finds Summer passed out
because she has skipped her insulin shots and has been drinking sweet
cider, he says "She was having a hypo."
If she had an excess of blood sugar, that would be a HYPERglycemic
event. Coversely, a HYPO is a result of taking too much insulin, or not
consuming enough calories after an insulin dose. Although both are
serious conditions, hypoglycemia is more life-threatening than
hyperglycemia in the short term. If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.
I assume Summer has type 1 diabetes, which usually develops in childhood
or adolescence, in which the body produces no insulin of its own. With
type 2, which I have, the body's natural insulin level is low, but it
can be managed with synthetic insulin, as well as other medications,
diet and exercise.
Summer has to inject herself several times a day, so yeah, type 1, and she must
normally be eating enough as she is complaining about putting on weight. I
thought the same thing about what Todd said because we knew what she had been
drinking!
I wondered why they wouldn't get her that gizmo that they put on the
arm then she just holds her phone to it and it tells her what her
levels are and the correct dosage of insulin she needs. A friend has
one and says she has never felt so good as she does now, likely
because even after all these years she got casual about it.
Availability on the NHS maybe, or the cost?
No doubt all the problems will disappear in a little while, to be mentioned
rarely, like David's epilepsy, Tracy's transplant, Nick's head injury etc., so
maybe that's when she "gets" the gizmo. :-)
<snip>
Post by Lucretia Borgia
Post by kat
Post by MartinS
Incidentally, Thomas Craig, who played Tommy Harris, is well known in
Canada as a police inspector on Murdoch Mysteries, set in 1890s Toronto,
which has been running on CBC since 2008. And Richard Fleesman, who
played Katy's brother Craig Harris, went on to be a successful actor,
musician and singer-sonwriter. Richard's father David, sister Emily and
mother Sue Jenkins have all appeared on Corrie.
I've seen a few Murdoch Mysteries but didn't know that!
I have seen trailers so I had noticed.
Not a bad series and nicely done - I usually watched it when waiting
for the programme on :)
I was hoping one of the channels might start at the beginning. But I think they
did and I didn't pick it up soon enough. Too much else for the amount of time I
watch tv anyway! Somehow though there wil be another chance!
Post by Lucretia Borgia
How's your summer going over there? Here we have an irritating wind
that gets up mid afternoon, enough to make it unpleasant outside. Also
had much more rain than usual but maybe that has prevented forest
fires here, so shouldn't gripe about it.
Horrible. Not a good one at all. It's not been all that warm, it has been
windy and wet. Our figs got blown off the tree, long before they ripened. We
got a lot last year.
We had a little luck last week, holiday in Norfolk. Only 2 bad days, but that
was a good week. Came home and back to chill ( and we only live 75 minutes
drive away ).
In the 60s David did a year at HMS Ganges and I quite liked Norfolk
but not in winter when the wind was sweeping through and it was
downright difficult to push a pram with three babes into it lol
kat
2021-08-03 07:13:52 UTC
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Post by Lucretia Borgia
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Post by Lucretia Borgia
Post by kat
Post by MartinS
In the recent episode where Todd (boo, hiss!) finds Summer passed out
because she has skipped her insulin shots and has been drinking sweet
cider, he says "She was having a hypo."
If she had an excess of blood sugar, that would be a HYPERglycemic
event. Coversely, a HYPO is a result of taking too much insulin, or not
consuming enough calories after an insulin dose. Although both are
serious conditions, hypoglycemia is more life-threatening than
hyperglycemia in the short term. If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.
I assume Summer has type 1 diabetes, which usually develops in childhood
or adolescence, in which the body produces no insulin of its own. With
type 2, which I have, the body's natural insulin level is low, but it
can be managed with synthetic insulin, as well as other medications,
diet and exercise.
Summer has to inject herself several times a day, so yeah, type 1, and she must
normally be eating enough as she is complaining about putting on weight. I
thought the same thing about what Todd said because we knew what she had been
drinking!
I wondered why they wouldn't get her that gizmo that they put on the
arm then she just holds her phone to it and it tells her what her
levels are and the correct dosage of insulin she needs. A friend has
one and says she has never felt so good as she does now, likely
because even after all these years she got casual about it.
Availability on the NHS maybe, or the cost?
No doubt all the problems will disappear in a little while, to be mentioned
rarely, like David's epilepsy, Tracy's transplant, Nick's head injury etc., so
maybe that's when she "gets" the gizmo. :-)
<snip>
Post by Lucretia Borgia
Post by kat
Post by MartinS
Incidentally, Thomas Craig, who played Tommy Harris, is well known in
Canada as a police inspector on Murdoch Mysteries, set in 1890s Toronto,
which has been running on CBC since 2008. And Richard Fleesman, who
played Katy's brother Craig Harris, went on to be a successful actor,
musician and singer-sonwriter. Richard's father David, sister Emily and
mother Sue Jenkins have all appeared on Corrie.
I've seen a few Murdoch Mysteries but didn't know that!
I have seen trailers so I had noticed.
Not a bad series and nicely done - I usually watched it when waiting
for the programme on :)
I was hoping one of the channels might start at the beginning. But I think they
did and I didn't pick it up soon enough. Too much else for the amount of time I
watch tv anyway! Somehow though there wil be another chance!
Post by Lucretia Borgia
How's your summer going over there? Here we have an irritating wind
that gets up mid afternoon, enough to make it unpleasant outside. Also
had much more rain than usual but maybe that has prevented forest
fires here, so shouldn't gripe about it.
Horrible. Not a good one at all. It's not been all that warm, it has been
windy and wet. Our figs got blown off the tree, long before they ripened. We
got a lot last year.
We had a little luck last week, holiday in Norfolk. Only 2 bad days, but that
was a good week. Came home and back to chill ( and we only live 75 minutes
drive away ).
In the 60s David did a year at HMS Ganges and I quite liked Norfolk
but not in winter when the wind was sweeping through and it was
downright difficult to push a pram with three babes into it lol
It would be windy at Shotley. At least it should have been fairly flat. But a
pram with 3 babes is going to be heavy!

It's half an hour away for me, other direction to our holiday, and all along the
river. I don't know how much you got around that year, but, being biassed, I
think our part of East Anglia is rather nice.:-)


I visited HMS Ganges once with a church group I was in as a child, but really
all I recall is they served us with fishpaste sandwiches! Must have been
sometime around 58 to 60 I guess.
--
kat
Post by Lucretia Borgia
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Lucretia Borgia
2021-08-03 12:43:47 UTC
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Post by Lucretia Borgia
How's your summer going over there? Here we have an irritating wind
that gets up mid afternoon, enough to make it unpleasant outside. Also
had much more rain than usual but maybe that has prevented forest
fires here, so shouldn't gripe about it.
Horrible. Not a good one at all. It's not been all that warm, it has been
windy and wet. Our figs got blown off the tree, long before they ripened. We
got a lot last year.
We had a little luck last week, holiday in Norfolk. Only 2 bad days, but that
was a good week. Came home and back to chill ( and we only live 75 minutes
drive away ).
In the 60s David did a year at HMS Ganges and I quite liked Norfolk
but not in winter when the wind was sweeping through and it was
downright difficult to push a pram with three babes into it lol
It would be windy at Shotley. At least it should have been fairly flat. But a
pram with 3 babes is going to be heavy!
My solution was to leave home with the wind at my back and arrive at
Ganges as David was coming home, then I got a ride home against the
wind. We lived in the married quarters in Shotley Gate.
Post by kat
It's half an hour away for me, other direction to our holiday, and all along the
river. I don't know how much you got around that year, but, being biassed, I
think our part of East Anglia is rather nice.:-)
Most of the summer I would take them over to a beach, very stony but
nice, can't remember it's name now :( Someone told me it's a huge
container port now.
Post by kat
I visited HMS Ganges once with a church group I was in as a child, but really
all I recall is they served us with fishpaste sandwiches! Must have been
sometime around 58 to 60 I guess.
Oh yuck! For the lads at Ganges their aim was to be Button Boy, i.e.
the one who stood on the button at the top of the mast when they
manned the mast at the end of the Queens inspection. Usually in June.
When practising that there were several accidents, some nasty and I
felt it was not really a relevant thing since we were long past the
days of sail and those masts had not been set in asphalt :(

We enjoyed our time there, mostly because for once in a long while
David had a shore job :)
kat
2021-08-03 21:08:14 UTC
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Post by Lucretia Borgia
Post by Lucretia Borgia
How's your summer going over there? Here we have an irritating wind
that gets up mid afternoon, enough to make it unpleasant outside. Also
had much more rain than usual but maybe that has prevented forest
fires here, so shouldn't gripe about it.
Horrible. Not a good one at all. It's not been all that warm, it has been
windy and wet. Our figs got blown off the tree, long before they ripened. We
got a lot last year.
We had a little luck last week, holiday in Norfolk. Only 2 bad days, but that
was a good week. Came home and back to chill ( and we only live 75 minutes
drive away ).
In the 60s David did a year at HMS Ganges and I quite liked Norfolk
but not in winter when the wind was sweeping through and it was
downright difficult to push a pram with three babes into it lol
It would be windy at Shotley. At least it should have been fairly flat. But a
pram with 3 babes is going to be heavy!
My solution was to leave home with the wind at my back and arrive at
Ganges as David was coming home, then I got a ride home against the
wind. We lived in the married quarters in Shotley Gate.
Clever. :-)
Post by Lucretia Borgia
Post by kat
It's half an hour away for me, other direction to our holiday, and all along the
river. I don't know how much you got around that year, but, being biassed, I
think our part of East Anglia is rather nice.:-)
Most of the summer I would take them over to a beach, very stony but
nice, can't remember it's name now :( Someone told me it's a huge
container port now.
Felixstowe? Other side of the river. That is indeed a very big container port
at the end looking over towards Shotley and Harwich. We like to go down there.
At Landguard Point, the end of the docks, there is a fort and a very pleasant
cafe. And a ferry to Harwich. The rest of Felixstowe is a normal enough seaside
resort, and there is a lot more sand than there was when I was young.
Post by Lucretia Borgia
Post by kat
I visited HMS Ganges once with a church group I was in as a child, but really
all I recall is they served us with fishpaste sandwiches! Must have been
sometime around 58 to 60 I guess.
Oh yuck! For the lads at Ganges their aim was to be Button Boy, i.e.
the one who stood on the button at the top of the mast when they
manned the mast at the end of the Queens inspection. Usually in June.
When practising that there were several accidents, some nasty and I
felt it was not really a relevant thing since we were long past the
days of sail and those masts had not been set in asphalt :(
We enjoyed our time there, mostly because for once in a long while
David had a shore job :)
Was talking to my husband about this earlier. His grandfather worked at Ganges,
he was a tailor, making/repairing uniforms. But he must have retired anout 1962.
--
kat
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Lucretia Borgia
2021-08-03 21:49:18 UTC
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Post by Lucretia Borgia
How's your summer going over there? Here we have an irritating wind
that gets up mid afternoon, enough to make it unpleasant outside. Also
had much more rain than usual but maybe that has prevented forest
fires here, so shouldn't gripe about it.
Horrible. Not a good one at all. It's not been all that warm, it has been
windy and wet. Our figs got blown off the tree, long before they ripened. We
got a lot last year.
We had a little luck last week, holiday in Norfolk. Only 2 bad days, but that
was a good week. Came home and back to chill ( and we only live 75 minutes
drive away ).
In the 60s David did a year at HMS Ganges and I quite liked Norfolk
but not in winter when the wind was sweeping through and it was
downright difficult to push a pram with three babes into it lol
It would be windy at Shotley. At least it should have been fairly flat. But a
pram with 3 babes is going to be heavy!
My solution was to leave home with the wind at my back and arrive at
Ganges as David was coming home, then I got a ride home against the
wind. We lived in the married quarters in Shotley Gate.
Clever. :-)
Post by Lucretia Borgia
Post by kat
It's half an hour away for me, other direction to our holiday, and all along the
river. I don't know how much you got around that year, but, being biassed, I
think our part of East Anglia is rather nice.:-)
Most of the summer I would take them over to a beach, very stony but
nice, can't remember it's name now :( Someone told me it's a huge
container port now.
Felixstowe? Other side of the river. That is indeed a very big container port
at the end looking over towards Shotley and Harwich. We like to go down there.
At Landguard Point, the end of the docks, there is a fort and a very pleasant
cafe. And a ferry to Harwich. The rest of Felixstowe is a normal enough seaside
resort, and there is a lot more sand than there was when I was young.
Yes, that was it, Felixstowe! It was all pebbles then but really that
wasn't so bad, less sand in the car afterwards :)
Post by kat
Post by Lucretia Borgia
Post by kat
I visited HMS Ganges once with a church group I was in as a child, but really
all I recall is they served us with fishpaste sandwiches! Must have been
sometime around 58 to 60 I guess.
Oh yuck! For the lads at Ganges their aim was to be Button Boy, i.e.
the one who stood on the button at the top of the mast when they
manned the mast at the end of the Queens inspection. Usually in June.
When practising that there were several accidents, some nasty and I
felt it was not really a relevant thing since we were long past the
days of sail and those masts had not been set in asphalt :(
We enjoyed our time there, mostly because for once in a long while
David had a shore job :)
Was talking to my husband about this earlier. His grandfather worked at Ganges,
he was a tailor, making/repairing uniforms. But he must have retired anout 1962.
We went there in 1962, supposed to be for two years but in the end he
went to sea again after one of the Admirals asked for him
specifically, I was not happy about that.

I laugh here when they announce a returning ship and it has been gone
6 months!!! David frequently did two years and there was no email
then, plus it was often difficult to try and make a phone call from a
foreign port.
kat
2021-08-04 10:03:12 UTC
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How's your summer going over there? Here we have an irritating wind
that gets up mid afternoon, enough to make it unpleasant outside. Also
had much more rain than usual but maybe that has prevented forest
fires here, so shouldn't gripe about it.
Horrible. Not a good one at all. It's not been all that warm, it has been
windy and wet. Our figs got blown off the tree, long before they ripened. We
got a lot last year.
We had a little luck last week, holiday in Norfolk. Only 2 bad days, but that
was a good week. Came home and back to chill ( and we only live 75 minutes
drive away ).
In the 60s David did a year at HMS Ganges and I quite liked Norfolk
but not in winter when the wind was sweeping through and it was
downright difficult to push a pram with three babes into it lol
It would be windy at Shotley. At least it should have been fairly flat. But a
pram with 3 babes is going to be heavy!
My solution was to leave home with the wind at my back and arrive at
Ganges as David was coming home, then I got a ride home against the
wind. We lived in the married quarters in Shotley Gate.
Clever. :-)
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It's half an hour away for me, other direction to our holiday, and all along the
river. I don't know how much you got around that year, but, being biassed, I
think our part of East Anglia is rather nice.:-)
Most of the summer I would take them over to a beach, very stony but
nice, can't remember it's name now :( Someone told me it's a huge
container port now.
Felixstowe? Other side of the river. That is indeed a very big container port
at the end looking over towards Shotley and Harwich. We like to go down there.
At Landguard Point, the end of the docks, there is a fort and a very pleasant
cafe. And a ferry to Harwich. The rest of Felixstowe is a normal enough seaside
resort, and there is a lot more sand than there was when I was young.
Yes, that was it, Felixstowe! It was all pebbles then but really that
wasn't so bad, less sand in the car afterwards :)
Still has a lot of pebbles, but the building of the docks and some new
breakwaters have allowed some sand to show through, nice patches where it does
get covered by the tide, so doesn't make too much mess.:-)

It's a nice place, Felixstowe, long way from Landguard to the Ferry at the other
end, cafes at both ends too, so quiet parts and busy parts.
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I visited HMS Ganges once with a church group I was in as a child, but really
all I recall is they served us with fishpaste sandwiches! Must have been
sometime around 58 to 60 I guess.
Oh yuck! For the lads at Ganges their aim was to be Button Boy, i.e.
the one who stood on the button at the top of the mast when they
manned the mast at the end of the Queens inspection. Usually in June.
When practising that there were several accidents, some nasty and I
felt it was not really a relevant thing since we were long past the
days of sail and those masts had not been set in asphalt :(
We enjoyed our time there, mostly because for once in a long while
David had a shore job :)
Was talking to my husband about this earlier. His grandfather worked at Ganges,
he was a tailor, making/repairing uniforms. But he must have retired anout 1962.
We went there in 1962, supposed to be for two years but in the end he
went to sea again after one of the Admirals asked for him
specifically, I was not happy about that.
That would be the year I turned 12 in the summer. :-)

I can see why reading the bit below!
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I laugh here when they announce a returning ship and it has been gone
6 months!!! David frequently did two years and there was no email
then, plus it was often difficult to try and make a phone call from a
foreign port.
--
kat
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^..^<
James Heaton
2021-08-03 20:26:58 UTC
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In the recent episode where Todd (boo, hiss!) finds Summer passed out
because she has skipped her insulin shots and has been drinking sweet
cider, he says "She was having a hypo."
If she had an excess of blood sugar, that would be a HYPERglycemic
event. Coversely, a HYPO is a result of taking too much insulin, or not
consuming enough calories after an insulin dose. Although both are
serious conditions, hypoglycemia is more life-threatening than
hyperglycemia in the short term. If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.
I assume Summer has type 1 diabetes, which usually develops in childhood
or adolescence, in which the body produces no insulin of its own. With
type 2, which I have, the body's natural insulin level is low, but it
can be managed with synthetic insulin, as well as other medications,
diet and exercise.
Summer has to inject herself several times a day, so yeah, type 1, and she must
normally be eating enough as she is complaining about putting on weight.
I
thought the same thing about what Todd said because we knew what she had been
drinking!
I wondered why they wouldn't get her that gizmo that they put on the
arm then she just holds her phone to it and it tells her what her
levels are and the correct dosage of insulin she needs. A friend has
one and says she has never felt so good as she does now, likely
because even after all these years she got casual about it.
Availability on the NHS maybe, or the cost?
The former - apparently it's only available to T1 pregnant women, anyone who
has disabling hypos, or anyone who has to test 8+ times a day.

James
MartinS
2021-09-08 22:28:47 UTC
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I wondered why they wouldn't get her that gizmo that they put on the
arm then she just holds her phone to it and it tells her what her
levels are and the correct dosage of insulin she needs. A friend
has one and says she has never felt so good as she does now, likely
because even after all these years she got casual about it.
Availability on the NHS maybe, or the cost?
The former - apparently it's only available to T1 pregnant women,
anyone who has disabling hypos, or anyone who has to test 8+ times a
day.
I have one of those gizmos - they are available by doctor's prescription in
Canada. However, the sensors are pretty expensive if you're under 65 and
don't have insurance coverage. As a senior, I pay $4.11 for 6 (a 90-day
supply). It certainly beats doing fingersticks several times a day.
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Lucretia Borgia
2021-09-08 22:37:39 UTC
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I wondered why they wouldn't get her that gizmo that they put on the
arm then she just holds her phone to it and it tells her what her
levels are and the correct dosage of insulin she needs. A friend
has one and says she has never felt so good as she does now, likely
because even after all these years she got casual about it.
Availability on the NHS maybe, or the cost?
The former - apparently it's only available to T1 pregnant women,
anyone who has disabling hypos, or anyone who has to test 8+ times a
day.
I have one of those gizmos - they are available by doctor's prescription in
Canada. However, the sensors are pretty expensive if you're under 65 and
don't have insurance coverage. As a senior, I pay $4.11 for 6 (a 90-day
supply). It certainly beats doing fingersticks several times a day.
My friend loves hers, wishes they were invented years ago.

Calvin Henry-Cotnam
2021-08-05 21:18:18 UTC
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Post by MartinS
If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.
It's been years since I took First Aid, but this is exactly what was
taught - just offer a sweetened drink. It does not drastically hurt
HYPERglycemia and will help HYPOglycemia.
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Incidentally, Thomas Craig, who played Tommy Harris, is well known in
Canada as a police inspector on Murdoch Mysteries, set in 1890s Toronto,
which has been running on CBC since 2008.
Not to mention the first few seasons that were on CITY-TV before that.
The show is marketed by ITV International.

Someone I know went on a date with Thomas Craig. She tells me he was
a lot like Thomas Craig, as far as liking his drink was concerned. ;-)
She declined a second date.
Post by MartinS
This plot has echoes of teenager Katy Harris, ...
Speaking of her, didn't the actress (Lucy-Jo Hudson) used to be (or is
still?) married to Alan Halsall (Tyrone)?
--
Calvin Henry-Cotnam
"Unusual or extreme reactions to events caused by negligence
are imaginable, but not reasonably foreseeable"
- Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin, May 2008
GordonD
2021-08-22 15:25:57 UTC
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If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.
It's been years since I took First Aid, but this is exactly what was
taught - just offer a sweetened drink. It does not drastically hurt
HYPERglycemia and will help HYPOglycemia.
Post by MartinS
Incidentally, Thomas Craig, who played Tommy Harris, is well known in
Canada as a police inspector on Murdoch Mysteries, set in 1890s Toronto,
which has been running on CBC since 2008.
Not to mention the first few seasons that were on CITY-TV before that.
The show is marketed by ITV International.
Someone I know went on a date with Thomas Craig. She tells me he was
a lot like Thomas Craig, as far as liking his drink was concerned. ;-)
She declined a second date.
Post by MartinS
This plot has echoes of teenager Katy Harris, ...
Speaking of her, didn't the actress (Lucy-Jo Hudson) used to be (or is
still?) married to Alan Halsall (Tyrone)?
They divorced in 2018.
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Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland
GordonD
2021-08-22 15:33:34 UTC
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If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.
It's been years since I took First Aid, but this is exactly what was
taught - just offer a sweetened drink. It does not drastically hurt
HYPERglycemia and will help HYPOglycemia.
Post by MartinS
Incidentally, Thomas Craig, who played Tommy Harris, is well known in
Canada as a police inspector on Murdoch Mysteries, set in 1890s Toronto,
which has been running on CBC since 2008.
Not to mention the first few seasons that were on CITY-TV before that.
The show is marketed by ITV International.
Someone I know went on a date with Thomas Craig. She tells me he was
a lot like Thomas Craig, as far as liking his drink was concerned. ;-)
She declined a second date.
Post by MartinS
This plot has echoes of teenager Katy Harris, ...
Speaking of her, didn't the actress (Lucy-Jo Hudson) used to be (or is
still?) married to Alan Halsall (Tyrone)?
They divorced in 2018.
Alan Halsall is now with Tisha Merry, who used to play Steph Britton.
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland
Lucretia Borgia
2021-08-22 17:52:15 UTC
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If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.
It's been years since I took First Aid, but this is exactly what was
taught - just offer a sweetened drink. It does not drastically hurt
HYPERglycemia and will help HYPOglycemia.
Post by MartinS
Incidentally, Thomas Craig, who played Tommy Harris, is well known in
Canada as a police inspector on Murdoch Mysteries, set in 1890s Toronto,
which has been running on CBC since 2008.
Not to mention the first few seasons that were on CITY-TV before that.
The show is marketed by ITV International.
Someone I know went on a date with Thomas Craig. She tells me he was
a lot like Thomas Craig, as far as liking his drink was concerned. ;-)
She declined a second date.
Post by MartinS
This plot has echoes of teenager Katy Harris, ...
Speaking of her, didn't the actress (Lucy-Jo Hudson) used to be (or is
still?) married to Alan Halsall (Tyrone)?
They divorced in 2018.
Alan Halsall is now with Tisha Merry, who used to play Steph Britton.
Is that what they mean by 'keeping it in the family?' :)
kat
2021-08-22 21:48:48 UTC
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If you encounter someone who you know
is diabetic and who is unresponsive, immediately summon emergency
assistance. If he or she is conscious, you could offer a sweetened
drink. In no circumstances should an unqualified person attempt to
administer insulin to an unconscious patient.
It's been years since I took First Aid, but this is exactly what was
taught - just offer a sweetened drink. It does not drastically hurt
HYPERglycemia and will help HYPOglycemia.
Post by MartinS
Incidentally, Thomas Craig, who played Tommy Harris, is well known in
Canada as a police inspector on Murdoch Mysteries, set in 1890s Toronto,
which has been running on CBC since 2008.
Not to mention the first few seasons that were on CITY-TV before that.
The show is marketed by ITV International.
Someone I know went on a date with Thomas Craig. She tells me he was
a lot like Thomas Craig, as far as liking his drink was concerned. ;-)
She declined a second date.
Post by MartinS
This plot has echoes of teenager Katy Harris, ...
Speaking of her, didn't the actress (Lucy-Jo Hudson) used to be (or is
still?) married to Alan Halsall (Tyrone)?
They divorced in 2018.
Alan Halsall is now with Tisha Merry, who used to play Steph Britton.
Is that what they mean by 'keeping it in the family?' :)
Popular place to meet people, at work. :-)
--
kat
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^..^<
Calvin Henry-Cotnam
2021-08-26 21:50:25 UTC
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Speaking of her, didn't the actress (Lucy-Jo Hudson) used to be (or is
still?) married to Alan Halsall (Tyrone)?
They divorced in 2018.
Alan Halsall is now with Tisha Merry, who used to play Steph Britton.
Now that you mention it, I recall reading about that.
--
Calvin Henry-Cotnam
"Unusual or extreme reactions to events caused by negligence
are imaginable, but not reasonably foreseeable"
- Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin, May 2008
capricorn40
2021-08-24 19:51:20 UTC
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This plot has echoes of teenager Katy Harris, who also had type 1
diabetes. She arrived with her family under a witness protection
programme in 2002. In 2005, after accidentally killing her father Tommy,
she committed suicide by drinking sugared water. It might have been
quicker if she had overdosed on insulin!
I remember that storyline. She died from Diabetic Ketoacidosis, which when there is too much sugar and the liver produces acid in the blood. I thought she died a bit too quickly from this since it happened overnight. And you are right, insulin overdose would have been much quicker.
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