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a***@gmail.com
2018-09-13 06:18:57 UTC
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1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.

2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.


3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.


Which are grammatical?

Which are idiomatic?


Gratefully,
Navi
Jack
2018-09-13 06:30:25 UTC
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1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
To me, "during which time" works better if an actual time has been
referenced, as in 3).
1) could replace that phrase with 'and', 2) with 'while'.
--
John
Peter Young
2018-09-13 06:25:58 UTC
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1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
Which are idiomatic?
All and all.

Peter.
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Peter Young, (BrE, RP), Consultant Anaesthetist, 1975-2004.
(US equivalent: Certified Anesthesiologist) (AUE Au)
Cheltenham and Gloucester, UK. Now happily retired.
http://pnyoung.orpheusweb.co.uk
Peter T. Daniels
2018-09-13 11:25:17 UTC
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1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
Which are idiomatic?
Bureaucratese.

During his Watergate testimony, John Dean introduced "at this point in time"
into popular parlance. He could have simply said "when" or "then." Same here.
Madrigal Gurneyhalt
2018-09-13 12:01:22 UTC
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Post by Peter T. Daniels
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1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
Which are idiomatic?
Bureaucratese.
During his Watergate testimony, John Dean introduced "at this point in time"
into popular parlance. He could have simply said "when" or "then." Same here.
Surely 'at this point in time' is 'now'. 'At *that* point in time' is 'when' or 'then'.
Peter T. Daniels
2018-09-13 14:45:08 UTC
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Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Peter T. Daniels
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1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
Which are idiomatic?
Bureaucratese.
During his Watergate testimony, John Dean introduced "at this point in time"
into popular parlance. He could have simply said "when" or "then." Same here.
Surely 'at this point in time' is 'now'. 'At *that* point in time' is 'when' or 'then'.
No, he was laying out in excruciating detail every bit of Nixon's, Haldeman's,
Ehrlichman's (, and his own) perfidy, using the historical present.

That same testimony also gave us "deep six" and "twist slowly, slowly in
the wind." Presumably they had been clichés within their limited field,
but he made them part of colloquial American.
Mack A. Damia
2018-09-13 14:47:55 UTC
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Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Madrigal Gurneyhalt
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
Which are idiomatic?
Bureaucratese.
During his Watergate testimony, John Dean introduced "at this point in time"
into popular parlance. He could have simply said "when" or "then." Same here.
Surely 'at this point in time' is 'now'. 'At *that* point in time' is 'when' or 'then'.
No, he was laying out in excruciating detail every bit of Nixon's, Haldeman's,
Ehrlichman's (, and his own) perfidy, using the historical present.
That same testimony also gave us "deep six" and "twist slowly, slowly in
the wind." Presumably they had been clichés within their limited field,
but he made them part of colloquial American.
"Twist slowly, slowly in the wind"?

Isn't that your mantra?
Peter Duncanson [BrE]
2018-09-13 14:56:32 UTC
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 04:25:17 -0700 (PDT), "Peter T. Daniels"
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
Which are idiomatic?
Bureaucratese.
During his Watergate testimony, John Dean introduced "at this point in time"
into popular parlance. He could have simply said "when" or "then." Same here.
At least he didn't say "at this moment in time", which expanded is
"at this point in time in time".
--
Peter Duncanson, UK
(in alt.usage.english)
Richard Yates
2018-09-13 12:57:42 UTC
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1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Gratefully,
Navi
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
2018-09-13 15:24:51 UTC
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Post by Richard Yates
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Amazingly, the limey intellect, being rather restrictive by nature, still manages to amaze me...if only for a good laugh.
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
2018-09-13 15:26:21 UTC
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Post by Richard Yates
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1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living, having a mattress strapped to her back.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Amazingly, the limey intellect, being rather restrictive by nature, still manages to amaze me...if only for a good laugh.
jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
2018-09-13 18:17:06 UTC
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:24:51 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Post by Richard Yates
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Amazingly, the limey intellect, being rather restrictive by nature, still manages to amaze me...if only for a good laugh.
Not amazingly, your total lack of intellect never manages to amaze me,
Lumumba!

- -

" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

" My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys.
They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak."
- Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015)

"Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"
- Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896)

"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews
in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
2018-09-13 22:44:31 UTC
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Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:24:51 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Post by Richard Yates
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Amazingly, the limey intellect, being rather restrictive by nature, still manages to amaze me...if only for a good laugh.
Not amazingly, your total lack of intellect never manages to amaze me,
Lumumba!
A serbian bitch (dog), you wouldn't know intellect if it ran up and bit you in the twat!
LOL
David
2018-09-14 07:39:29 UTC
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Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:24:51 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Post by Richard Yates
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Amazingly, the limey intellect, being rather restrictive by nature, still
manages to amaze me...if only for a good laugh.
Not amazingly, your total lack of intellect never manages to amaze me,
Lumumba!
A serbian bitch (dog), you wouldn't know intellect if it ran up and bit you
in the twat!
LOL

a dog came up and helped
jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
2018-09-14 13:03:31 UTC
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Post by Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:24:51 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Post by Richard Yates
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Amazingly, the limey intellect, being rather restrictive by nature, still manages to amaze me...if only for a good laugh.
Not amazingly, your total lack of intellect never manages to amaze me,
Lumumba!
A serbian bitch (dog), you wouldn't know intellect if it ran up and bit you in the twat!
LOL
YOU wouldn't know intellect if it rogered you in your fat moulie
asshole!


- -

" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

" My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys.
They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak."
- Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015)

"Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"
- Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896)

"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews
in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
Colonel Edmund J. Burke
2018-09-14 13:17:44 UTC
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Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:44:31 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:24:51 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Post by Richard Yates
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Amazingly, the limey intellect, being rather restrictive by nature, still manages to amaze me...if only for a good laugh.
Not amazingly, your total lack of intellect never manages to amaze me,
Lumumba!
A serbian bitch (dog), you wouldn't know intellect if it ran up and bit you in the twat!
LOL
YOU wouldn't know intellect if it rogered you in your fat moulie
asshole!
Takes an asshole to know as asshole.
LOL
David
2018-09-15 09:42:52 UTC
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On 9/13/2018 11:17 AM, jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:24:51 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Post by Richard Yates
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Amazingly, the limey intellect, being rather restrictive by nature,
still manages to amaze me...if only for a good laugh.
Not amazingly, your total lack of intellect never manages to amaze me,
Lumumba!
A serbian bitch (dog), you wouldn't know intellect if it ran up and bit you in the twat!
LOL
YOU wouldn't know intellect if it rogered you in your fat moulie
asshole!
Takes an asshole to know as asshole.
LOL

I hope I find one.
David
2018-09-15 22:39:00 UTC
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:44:31 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
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On 9/13/2018 11:17 AM, jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:24:51 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Post by Richard Yates
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Amazingly, the limey intellect, being rather restrictive by nature,
still manages to amaze me...if only for a good laugh.
Not amazingly, your total lack of intellect never manages to amaze me,
Lumumba!
A serbian bitch (dog), you wouldn't know intellect if it ran up and bit you in the twat!
LOL
YOU wouldn't know intellect if it rogered you in your fat moulie
asshole!


- -

" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

" My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys.
They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak."
- Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015)

"Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"
- Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896)

"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews
in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>

I sort of have rogers pretty good, coming and going.
%
2018-09-15 22:41:48 UTC
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"jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:44:31 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by David
On 9/13/2018 11:17 AM, jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:24:51 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Post by Richard Yates
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Amazingly, the limey intellect, being rather restrictive by nature,
still manages to amaze me...if only for a good laugh.
Not amazingly, your total lack of intellect never manages to amaze me,
Lumumba!
A serbian bitch (dog), you wouldn't know intellect if it ran up and bit you in the twat!
LOL
YOU wouldn't know intellect if it rogered you in your fat moulie
asshole!
- -
" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun  Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected
" My real name's McGill.  The jew thing I just do for the homeboys.
They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak."
- Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015)
"Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"
- Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896)
"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
- Klaun  Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews
in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences
I sort of have rogers pretty good, coming and going.
they put power poles in yesterday ,
if you don't live close to the road ,
you have to pay for some of the poles
David
2018-09-15 23:35:40 UTC
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"jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 15:44:31 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by David
On 9/13/2018 11:17 AM, jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch
Post by jew pedophile Ron Jacobson (jew pedophile Baruch 'Barry' Shein's jew aliash)
On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:24:51 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Post by Richard Yates
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Amazingly, the limey intellect, being rather restrictive by nature,
still manages to amaze me...if only for a good laugh.
Not amazingly, your total lack of intellect never manages to amaze me,
Lumumba!
A serbian bitch (dog), you wouldn't know intellect if it ran up and bit you in the twat!
LOL
YOU wouldn't know intellect if it rogered you in your fat moulie
asshole!
- -
" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected
" My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys.
They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak."
- Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015)
"Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"
- Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896)
"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews
in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences
I sort of have rogers pretty good, coming and going.
they put power poles in yesterday ,
if you don't live close to the road ,
you have to pay for some of the poles

I didn't think of that.

David
2018-09-14 05:23:07 UTC
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 08:24:51 -0700, "fake vet Scatboi Colon La Edmund
Post by Colonel Edmund J. Burke
Post by Richard Yates
Post by a***@gmail.com
1) We were having a major crisis, during which time they were ignoring
our requests for help.
2) He worked on certain technical aspects of the design, during which time
his brother obtained loans for finishing the project.
3) He worked on his novel for three years, during which time his wife earned
their living.
Which are grammatical?
All.
Post by a***@gmail.com
Which are idiomatic?
All, if a little awkward.
Amazingly, the limey intellect, being rather restrictive by nature, still
manages to amaze me...if only for a good laugh.
Not amazingly, your total lack of intellect never manages to amaze me,
Lumumba!

- -

" I don't even have the heart to tell him I've never infested
Arizona."
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), acknowledging that he lied
from the very beginning, A jew scam, as expected

" My real name's McGill. The jew thing I just do for the homeboys.
They all want a pipe hitting member of the tribe, so to speak."
- Saul Goodman (Bob Odenkirk). "Better Call Saul" (2015)

"Die Juden sind unser Unglück!"
- Heinrich von Treitschke (1834 - 1896)

"But vhere vill ve be able to vatch gay jews taking black cock up ze
ass?"
- Klaun Shittinb'ricks (1940 - ), bemoaning the depletion of jews
in Hollyvood and the effect on his viewing preferences
Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>

my ideas are good but can make quite a lot of it
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