Can a girl change her mind?

Post by MM
A man and woman love each other and the man plans to instigate sexual
intercourse real soon now (no, it's not about me).
Just before the moment of hiding the sausage the woman says,"Sorry,
Norman, I've changed my mind and no longer consent to this love event
proceeding." The man, of course, being a gentleman, stops immediately
and makes a cup of tea.
So if it's okay for the woman to have second thoughts, why not let the
voters express any second thoughts on leaving the EU or staying in?
MM

That has to be the most pathetic attempt at an analogy I have read for years.

For a start, you would have to already be inside the woman, as we are in the
EU; and the decision would be to stay in forever or have the option to get
out with a mutually agreed exit strategy.

2018-12-05 10:35:00 UTC

On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 09:04:02 +0000, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

That has to be the most pathetic attempt at an analogy I have read for years.
For a start, you would have to already be inside the woman, as we are in the
EU; and the decision would be to stay in forever or have the option to get
out with a mutually agreed exit strategy.

It's about an event that's about to happen with mutual consent of both
parties. Whether it's sexual intercourse or withdrawing from the EU,
consent for either event has to be given. But a woman can change her
mind, can't she? The man, too. So consent is given, but can also be
taken away.

MM

R. Mark Clayton

2018-12-05 12:01:13 UTC

That has to be the most pathetic attempt at an analogy I have read for years.

It is poor.

Post by Fruitiest of Fruitcakes
For a start, you would have to already be inside the woman, as we are in the
EU; and the decision would be to stay in forever or have the option to get
out with a mutually agreed exit strategy.

So let's not carry it on.

FMurtz

2018-12-05 15:13:18 UTC

That has to be the most pathetic attempt at an analogy I have read for years.
For a start, you would have to already be inside the woman, as we are in the
EU; and the decision would be to stay in forever or have the option to get
out with a mutually agreed exit strategy.

You are not going to give up on this until the break are you? at which
time you are going to look stupid.

Bod

2018-12-05 09:23:07 UTC

If your sausage is already inside the EU sausage orifice, then you can't
pull out unless you agree to the EUs withdrawal conditions. If your
sausage just pulls out without obeying the EU, then they'll stop you
inserting your sausage in any of their mates.

--
Bod

Dan S. MacAbre

2018-12-05 09:30:24 UTC

Isn't the UK the woman in this analogy? I'm not entirely sure, but I
think the suggestion is that it is the UK that can change its mind. Or
something like that. Or are you suggesting that the analogy works
better if the EU is the woman?

Bod

2018-12-05 09:37:19 UTC

> You've got it the wrong way around.
If your sausage is already inside the EU sausage orifice, then you
can't pull out unless you agree to the EUs withdrawal conditions. If
your sausage just pulls out without obeying the EU, then they'll stop
you inserting your sausage in any of their mates.

into the EU after agreeing to insertion consent rules. Are you
suggesting that the UK raped the EU? :-)

--
Bod

Dan S. MacAbre

2018-12-05 09:41:00 UTC

Isn't the UK the woman in this analogy? I'm not entirely sure, but I
think the suggestion is that it is the UK that can change its mind.
Or something like that. Or are you suggesting that the analogy works
better if the EU is the woman?
No, the UK is the male. The UK is the one that inserted his sausage

into the EU after agreeing to insertion consent rules. Are you
suggesting that the UK raped the EU? :-)

I think that is stretching it a bit too far. Twenty-odd miles isn't it?

Bod

2018-12-05 09:54:07 UTC

> You've got it the wrong way around.
If your sausage is already inside the EU sausage orifice, then you
can't pull out unless you agree to the EUs withdrawal conditions. If
your sausage just pulls out without obeying the EU, then they'll
stop you inserting your sausage in any of their mates.

Isn't the UK the woman in this analogy? I'm not entirely sure, but I
think the suggestion is that it is the UK that can change its mind.
Or something like that. Or are you suggesting that the analogy works
better if the EU is the woman?

>
> No, the UK is the male. The UK is the one that inserted his sausage
into the EU after agreeing to insertion consent rules. Are you
suggesting that the UK raped the EU? :-)

I think that is stretching it a bit too far. Twenty-odd miles isn't it?
Are you saying that the UKs sausage is inadequate? Bit condescending,

doncha think? ;-)

--
Bod

Dan S. MacAbre

2018-12-05 10:03:46 UTC

> You've got it the wrong way around.
If your sausage is already inside the EU sausage orifice, then you
can't pull out unless you agree to the EUs withdrawal conditions.
If your sausage just pulls out without obeying the EU, then they'll
stop you inserting your sausage in any of their mates.

Isn't the UK the woman in this analogy? I'm not entirely sure, but
I think the suggestion is that it is the UK that can change its
mind. Or something like that. Or are you suggesting that the
analogy works better if the EU is the woman?

>
> No, the UK is the male. The UK is the one that inserted his
sausage into the EU after agreeing to insertion consent rules. Are
you suggesting that the UK raped the EU? :-)

I think that is stretching it a bit too far. Twenty-odd miles isn't it?
Are you saying that the UKs sausage is inadequate? Bit condescending,

doncha think? ;-)

The UK's sausage is not what it once was. There has been a loss of
turgidity.

2018-12-05 10:40:28 UTC

Isn't the UK the woman in this analogy? I'm not entirely sure, but I
think the suggestion is that it is the UK that can change its mind.
Or something like that. Or are you suggesting that the analogy works
better if the EU is the woman?
No, the UK is the male. The UK is the one that inserted his sausage

into the EU after agreeing to insertion consent rules. Are you
suggesting that the UK raped the EU? :-)

I think that is stretching it a bit too far. Twenty-odd miles isn't it?

My goodness! I've heard of crotch gap, but that takes the biscuit.

MM

Dan S. MacAbre

2018-12-05 12:01:20 UTC

Isn't the UK the woman in this analogy? I'm not entirely sure, but I
think the suggestion is that it is the UK that can change its mind.
Or something like that. Or are you suggesting that the analogy works
better if the EU is the woman?
No, the UK is the male. The UK is the one that inserted his sausage

into the EU after agreeing to insertion consent rules. Are you
suggesting that the UK raped the EU? :-)

I think that is stretching it a bit too far. Twenty-odd miles isn't it?

My goodness! I've heard of crotch gap, but that takes the biscuit.
MM

Are you OPing to u.k.p.m and u.l, but then only following up to u.l.?
It's causing me no end of confusion. uk.legal isn't a regular for me.

2018-12-05 17:41:02 UTC

Isn't the UK the woman in this analogy? I'm not entirely sure, but I
think the suggestion is that it is the UK that can change its mind.
Or something like that. Or are you suggesting that the analogy works
better if the EU is the woman?
No, the UK is the male. The UK is the one that inserted his sausage

into the EU after agreeing to insertion consent rules. Are you
suggesting that the UK raped the EU? :-)

I think that is stretching it a bit too far. Twenty-odd miles isn't it?

My goodness! I've heard of crotch gap, but that takes the biscuit.
MM

Are you OPing to u.k.p.m and u.l, but then only following up to u.l.?
It's causing me no end of confusion. uk.legal isn't a regular for me.

I do tend to post to both, but I was thinking this afternoon that it
might be better to post to one OR the other. Trouble is, so many
topics right now have both legal and political elements. What we
pehaps need is a new group: uk.brexit, for example.

MM

Joe

2018-12-05 10:13:04 UTC

On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 09:37:19 +0000

Post by MM
A man and woman love each other and the man plans to instigate
sexual intercourse real soon now (no, it's not about me).
Just before the moment of hiding the sausage the woman
says,"Sorry, Norman, I've changed my mind and no longer consent
to this love event proceeding." The man, of course, being a
gentleman, stops immediately and makes a cup of tea.
So if it's okay for the woman to have second thoughts, why not
let the voters express any second thoughts on leaving the EU or
staying in?
MM

> You've got it the wrong way around.
If your sausage is already inside the EU sausage orifice, then you
can't pull out unless you agree to the EUs withdrawal conditions.
If your sausage just pulls out without obeying the EU, then
they'll stop you inserting your sausage in any of their mates.

Isn't the UK the woman in this analogy? I'm not entirely sure, but
I think the suggestion is that it is the UK that can change its
mind. Or something like that. Or are you suggesting that the
analogy works better if the EU is the woman?

No, the UK is the male. The UK is the one that inserted his
sausage
into the EU after agreeing to insertion consent rules. Are you
suggesting that the UK raped the EU? :-)

No, but she keeps changing the rules every few years and we don't
ever get asked if we consent to *that*.

--
Joe

Ophelia

2018-12-05 12:44:52 UTC

Bod

2018-12-05 12:46:19 UTC

LOL, indeed.

--
Bod

2018-12-05 17:42:43 UTC

LOL, indeed.

In its absolute basics it comes down to whether consent can be
withdrawn. In other words, has one the right to change one's mind.

MM

Dan S. MacAbre

2018-12-05 12:46:44 UTC

It is certainly conjuring up some strange mental images.

Ophelia

2018-12-05 12:55:43 UTC

If your sausage is already inside the EU sausage orifice, then you
can't pull out unless you agree to the EUs withdrawal conditions. If
your sausage just pulls out without obeying the EU, then they'll stop
you inserting your sausage in any of their mates.

It is certainly conjuring up some strange mental images.

==

<g>

Bod

2018-12-05 13:13:53 UTC

Isn't the UK the woman in this analogy? I'm not entirely sure, but I
think the suggestion is that it is the UK that can change its mind.
Or something like that. Or are you suggesting that the analogy works
better if the EU is the woman?
==
This is becoming surreal!
lol

It is certainly conjuring up some strange mental images.
==
<g>
This is what happens when we try to discuss Brexit with a rabid

remainer like MM.
Best not to talk to him when he's hungry.

--
Bod

2018-12-05 17:44:49 UTC

Isn't the UK the woman in this analogy? I'm not entirely sure, but I
think the suggestion is that it is the UK that can change its mind.
Or something like that. Or are you suggesting that the analogy works
better if the EU is the woman?
==
This is becoming surreal!
lol

It is certainly conjuring up some strange mental images.
==
<g>
This is what happens when we try to discuss Brexit with a rabid

remainer like MM.
Best not to talk to him when he's hungry.

I've had my sausage quota for today. Ooh, that may have come out
wrong... I am, of course, referring to, and paying due homage to, the
two Aldi outdoor bred pork bangers I had for breakfast with an egg,
mushrooms (porcini) and toast.

MM

Bod

2018-12-05 18:11:18 UTC

Isn't the UK the woman in this analogy? I'm not entirely sure, but I
think the suggestion is that it is the UK that can change its mind.
Or something like that. Or are you suggesting that the analogy works
better if the EU is the woman?
==
This is becoming surreal!
lol

It is certainly conjuring up some strange mental images.
==
<g>
This is what happens when we try to discuss Brexit with a rabid

remainer like MM.
Best not to talk to him when he's hungry.

--
Bod

2018-12-05 10:39:02 UTC

If your sausage is already inside the EU sausage orifice, then you can't
pull out unless you agree to the EUs withdrawal conditions.

'Course you can! That would be a hard, no-deal Brexit. Although after
prolonging ejaculation for over 2 years it probably wouldn't be so
hard any longer.

Post by Bod
If your
sausage just pulls out without obeying the EU, then they'll stop you
inserting your sausage in any of their mates.

On the contrary, a hard Brexit would give Britain the opportunity to
ignore the EU entirely and strike trade deals unhindered with the rest
of the world.

MM

Ian Jackson

2018-12-05 11:13:12 UTC

If your sausage is already inside the EU sausage orifice, then you can't
pull out unless you agree to the EUs withdrawal conditions.

'Course you can! That would be a hard, no-deal Brexit. Although after
prolonging ejaculation for over 2 years it probably wouldn't be so
hard any longer.

Post by Bod
If your
sausage just pulls out without obeying the EU, then they'll stop you
inserting your sausage in any of their mates.

On the contrary, a hard Brexit would give Britain the opportunity to
ignore the EU entirely and strike trade deals unhindered with the rest
of the world.

But we will have to take the necessary precautions to ensure that this
doesn't result in the UK getting shafted instead.

--
Ian

Omega

2018-12-05 09:31:00 UTC

I think it a good idea if he gets a hold of his sausage and stick it in
your ear, consent or not of course, and try fuck some sense into you!

Long overdue!

omega

Bod

2018-12-05 09:40:45 UTC

Post by Omega

I think it a good idea if he gets a hold of his sausage and stick it in
your ear, consent or not of course, and try fuck some sense into you!
Long overdue!
omega
Ha! that way he'll actually hear him cumming.

--
Bod

2018-12-05 10:44:04 UTC

Post by Omega

I think it a good idea if he gets a hold of his sausage and stick it in
your ear, consent or not of course, and try fuck some sense into you!

I told you, it's not about me. You should be more concerned about
fucking some sense into the minds of Brexiters.

Long overdue.

MM

Vidcapper

2018-12-05 15:46:47 UTC

I can't believe you're seriously drawing such a flawed analogy!

--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

2018-12-05 17:47:25 UTC

I can't believe you're seriously drawing such a flawed analogy!

You don't like it because you can't argue against it. But it's drummed
into everyone nowadays that a girl *can* change her mind.

MM

Joe

2018-12-05 17:54:47 UTC

On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 15:46:47 +0000

Post by MM
A man and woman love each other and the man plans to instigate
sexual intercourse real soon now (no, it's not about me).
Just before the moment of hiding the sausage the woman says,"Sorry,
Norman, I've changed my mind and no longer consent to this love
event proceeding." The man, of course, being a gentleman, stops
immediately and makes a cup of tea.
So if it's okay for the woman to have second thoughts, why not let
the voters express any second thoughts on leaving the EU or staying
in?

I can't believe you're seriously drawing such a flawed analogy!

He's already tried comparing the referendum to an General Election. I
said that was fine, but where have the EU referendums been for the last
forty years if they're supposed to be every five?

--
Joe

Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

2018-12-05 17:58:57 UTC

Post by Joe
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 15:46:47 +0000

Post by MM
A man and woman love each other and the man plans to instigate
sexual intercourse real soon now (no, it's not about me).
Just before the moment of hiding the sausage the woman says,"Sorry,
Norman, I've changed my mind and no longer consent to this love
event proceeding." The man, of course, being a gentleman, stops
immediately and makes a cup of tea.
So if it's okay for the woman to have second thoughts, why not let
the voters express any second thoughts on leaving the EU or staying
in?

I can't believe you're seriously drawing such a flawed analogy!

He's already tried comparing the referendum to an General Election. I
said that was fine, but where have the EU referendums been for the last
forty years if they're supposed to be every five?

In many EU countries they have referendums on a regular basis until the
electorate give the result the government wants.

Maybe that alternative scenario is what MM is trying to suggest?

2018-12-06 11:58:34 UTC

On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 17:58:57 +0000, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

Post by Joe
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 15:46:47 +0000

Post by MM
A man and woman love each other and the man plans to instigate
sexual intercourse real soon now (no, it's not about me).
Just before the moment of hiding the sausage the woman says,"Sorry,
Norman, I've changed my mind and no longer consent to this love
event proceeding." The man, of course, being a gentleman, stops
immediately and makes a cup of tea.
So if it's okay for the woman to have second thoughts, why not let
the voters express any second thoughts on leaving the EU or staying
in?

I can't believe you're seriously drawing such a flawed analogy!

He's already tried comparing the referendum to an General Election. I
said that was fine, but where have the EU referendums been for the last
forty years if they're supposed to be every five?

In many EU countries they have referendums on a regular basis until the
electorate give the result the government wants.
Maybe that alternative scenario is what MM is trying to suggest?

No. We have a representative democracy. Referendums should play
absolutely no part in a representative democracy.

MM

Fredxx

2018-12-07 11:59:38 UTC

Post by MM
On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 17:58:57 +0000, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

Post by Joe
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 15:46:47 +0000

Post by MM
A man and woman love each other and the man plans to instigate
sexual intercourse real soon now (no, it's not about me).
Just before the moment of hiding the sausage the woman says,"Sorry,
Norman, I've changed my mind and no longer consent to this love
event proceeding." The man, of course, being a gentleman, stops
immediately and makes a cup of tea.
So if it's okay for the woman to have second thoughts, why not let
the voters express any second thoughts on leaving the EU or staying
in?

I can't believe you're seriously drawing such a flawed analogy!

He's already tried comparing the referendum to an General Election. I
said that was fine, but where have the EU referendums been for the last
forty years if they're supposed to be every five?

In many EU countries they have referendums on a regular basis until the
electorate give the result the government wants.
Maybe that alternative scenario is what MM is trying to suggest?

No. We have a representative democracy. Referendums should play
absolutely no part in a representative democracy.

It's ironic that a representative democracy supports a vote to have a
referendum, perhaps the most democratic instrument of all.

Of course some are so selfish to dislike referendums when they are the
truest reflection of the will of the people but don't provide the right
answer.

2018-12-08 09:55:45 UTC

Post by MM
On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 17:58:57 +0000, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

Post by Joe
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 15:46:47 +0000

Post by MM
A man and woman love each other and the man plans to instigate
sexual intercourse real soon now (no, it's not about me).
Just before the moment of hiding the sausage the woman says,"Sorry,
Norman, I've changed my mind and no longer consent to this love
event proceeding." The man, of course, being a gentleman, stops
immediately and makes a cup of tea.
So if it's okay for the woman to have second thoughts, why not let
the voters express any second thoughts on leaving the EU or staying
in?

I can't believe you're seriously drawing such a flawed analogy!

He's already tried comparing the referendum to an General Election. I
said that was fine, but where have the EU referendums been for the last
forty years if they're supposed to be every five?

In many EU countries they have referendums on a regular basis until the
electorate give the result the government wants.
Maybe that alternative scenario is what MM is trying to suggest?

No. We have a representative democracy. Referendums should play
absolutely no part in a representative democracy.

It's ironic that a representative democracy supports a vote to have a
referendum, perhaps the most democratic instrument of all.

Far from being "the most democratic instrument of all", Margaret
Thatcher in 1975 agreed with a previous Labour Prime Minister, Clement
Attlee, who said: "referendums are a device of dictators and
demagogues".

Which is why there have been so very few referendums throughout
British history. Check it out.

Post by Fredxx
Of course some are so selfish to dislike referendums when they are the
truest reflection of the will of the people but don't provide the right
answer.

Well, people in future are not going to fall in love with referendums
after this current debacle. I would suggest that Parliament pass and
Act outlawing all future referendums asap. It would need another Act
to repeal it.

MM

Fredxx

2018-12-08 12:45:30 UTC

Post by MM
On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 17:58:57 +0000, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

Post by Joe
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 15:46:47 +0000

Post by MM
A man and woman love each other and the man plans to instigate
sexual intercourse real soon now (no, it's not about me).
Just before the moment of hiding the sausage the woman says,"Sorry,
Norman, I've changed my mind and no longer consent to this love
event proceeding." The man, of course, being a gentleman, stops
immediately and makes a cup of tea.
So if it's okay for the woman to have second thoughts, why not let
the voters express any second thoughts on leaving the EU or staying
in?

I can't believe you're seriously drawing such a flawed analogy!

He's already tried comparing the referendum to an General Election. I
said that was fine, but where have the EU referendums been for the last
forty years if they're supposed to be every five?

In many EU countries they have referendums on a regular basis until the
electorate give the result the government wants.
Maybe that alternative scenario is what MM is trying to suggest?

No. We have a representative democracy. Referendums should play
absolutely no part in a representative democracy.

It's ironic that a representative democracy supports a vote to have a
referendum, perhaps the most democratic instrument of all.

I didn't know you supported Margaret Thatchers views and opinions.

You sound a good Tory. Keep up the good work. I guess Kenneth Clarke is
your new hero.

Pamela

2018-12-08 15:14:00 UTC

Post by Fredxx
I didn't know you supported Margaret Thatchers views and opinions.
You sound a good Tory. Keep up the good work. I guess Kenneth Clarke
is your new hero.

You seem to be saying Kenneth Clarke is a Thatcherite but you probably need
to double check your understanding.

2018-12-09 13:35:04 UTC

Post by MM
On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 17:58:57 +0000, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

Post by Joe
On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 15:46:47 +0000