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Apple Montage / Will Dockery (2018)
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Will Dockery
2019-05-08 21:50:47 UTC
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Apple Montage

Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.

Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.

To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.

There were several
of those trees
and other trees
behind them
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.

Later, I stood near
as a crowd
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.

I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.

I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
to breathing
the hot misty steam.

The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.

-Will Dockery / 2018

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Note:
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.

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Peter J Ross
2019-05-08 22:42:40 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 8 May 2019 14:50:47 -0700 (PDT),
Will Dockery wrote:

<spamspewsnip>

How many times do you have to be told that nobody is interested in
reading your illiterate spew even once, let alone a thousand times?

If you persist in making multiple substantially identical posts, I'll
start keeping count. Do you want Google Inc. to delete your YouTube
channel, your Gmail email account and everything else that makes you
feel a bit like a human being, spammer?
--
PJR :-)

τὸν οἰόμενον νόον ἔχειν ὁ νουθετέων ματαιοπονεῖ.
- Democritus
General Zod
2019-05-08 23:29:58 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
How many times do you have to be told that nobody is interested
The best way to show you are not interested is to ignore and skip the posts Peter......
Peter J Ross
2019-05-11 15:32:20 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 8 May 2019 16:29:58 -0700 (PDT),
Post by General Zod
Post by Peter J Ross
How many times do you have to be told that nobody is interested
The best way to show you are not interested is to ignore and skip the posts Peter......
How would that assist in my mission to make intelligent, decent people
laugh, Plod?
--
PJR :-)

τὸν οἰόμενον νόον ἔχειν ὁ νουθετέων ματαιοπονεῖ.
- Democritus
ME
2019-05-08 23:31:53 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 8 May 2019 14:50:47 -0700 (PDT),
<spamspewsnip>
How many times do you have to be told that nobody is interested in
reading your illiterate spew even once, let alone a thousand times?
If you persist in making multiple substantially identical posts, I'll
start keeping count. Do you want Google Inc. to delete your YouTube
channel, your Gmail email account and everything else that makes you
feel a bit like a human being, spammer?
--
PJR :-)
τὸν οἰόμενον νόον ἔχειν ὁ νουθετέων ματαιοπονεῖ.
- Democritus
If you see something, say something.
General Zod
2019-05-08 23:59:42 UTC
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Did you ever even read the poem ME?? ?
General Zod
2019-05-09 03:57:14 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 8 May 2019 14:50:47 -0700 (PDT),
How many times do you have to be told that nobody is interested in
reading your
None I say.....

If you are not interested do not read....

Do not comment....

Seems simple enough.....
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-09 12:10:19 UTC
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Post by General Zod
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 8 May 2019 14:50:47 -0700 (PDT),
How many times do you have to be told that nobody is interested in
reading your
None I say.....
If you are not interested do not read....
Do not comment....
Seems simple enough.....
The first time I read "Apple Non-tage," I thought it was relatively good (relative to the rest of Will's gibberish, that is), due to the sustained (and apparently unintentional) biblical metaphor.

Will received praise from all who commented on it, included the supposed "malicious trolls."

Several thousand bumps and reposts later, the poem has become anathema to all and sundry.

There's a lesson to learned from this. Unfortunately, both you and Will are too dense to figure it out.
Will Dockery
2019-05-09 15:45:54 UTC
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Post by Michael Pendragon
The first time I read
"Apple Montage"
Post by Michael Pendragon
I thought it was relatively good
Will received praise from all who commented on it, included the supposed "malicious trolls."
We can leave it at that with my thanks, Pendragon.
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-09 15:57:56 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
The first time I read
"Apple Montage"
Don't attribute falsified quotes to me, shitbird.

I wrote "Apple Non-tage," and I meant "Apple Non-tage."


Michael Pendragon
"Memories... pressed between the pages just like fine wine...…........" -- George "Lady Bunny" Sulzbach
Will Dockery
2019-05-09 16:32:41 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
The first time I read
"Apple Montage"
The poem is "Apple Montage", you know that, and I corrected your mistake.
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-09 17:40:58 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
The first time I read
"Apple Montage"
The poem is "Apple Montage", you know that, and I corrected your mistake.
Why do you lie so much, Will?

The poem is not a montage, nor does it contain an example of one; I had corrected it accordingly.
Will Dockery
2019-05-11 09:39:18 UTC
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Post by Michael Pendragon
The poem is not a montage, nor does it contain an example of one
The poem is a good one of mine.

The title is even better.

You know this, so why not give it the nod you know it deserves and let's move forward?

That's what I mean by "don't over think it."

:)
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-11 19:29:37 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
The poem is not a montage, nor does it contain an example of one
The poem is a good one of mine.
The poem is only good in comparison to the pidgin English wannabe folk rock lyrics you usually write. It isn't a very good poem by any other yardstick.
Post by Will Dockery
The title is even better.
I know that you think it's "snappy" and are therefore going to hang onto it come hell or high water.

I'm of the school that thinks a poem's title should capture the essence of and/or comment on the poem. Since there is not so much as one apple, or one instance of montage in your poem, the title just comes across as stupid.
Post by Will Dockery
You know this, so why not give it the nod you know it deserves and let's move forward?
How's this: you call it "Apple Montage," and I'll refer to it more realistically as "Apple Non-tage"?
Post by Will Dockery
That's what I mean by "don't over think it."
What do you mean by "don't over think it" is that one shouldn't think about it at all.
Zod
2019-05-11 21:30:06 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
The poem is not a montage, nor does it contain an example of one
The poem is a good one of mine.
The title is even better.
You know this, so why not give it the nod you know it deserves and let's move forward?
That's what I mean by "don't over think it."
:)
The poem is outstanding.....

And a good use of montage effects in poetry form.....
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-12 03:51:31 UTC
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Post by Zod
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
The poem is not a montage, nor does it contain an example of one
The poem is a good one of mine.
The title is even better.
You know this, so why not give it the nod you know it deserves and let's move forward?
That's what I mean by "don't over think it."
:)
The poem is outstanding.....
And a good use of montage effects in poetry form.....
Again: point out *one* actual montage effect in the poem.
Sgt Costello
2019-05-10 08:15:27 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
The first time I read
"Apple Montage"
Post by Michael Pendragon
I thought it was relatively good
Will received praise from all who commented on it, included the supposed "malicious trolls."
We can leave it at that with my thanks, Pendragon.
Well this is a nice civil stance for a change.....
Peter J Ross
2019-05-11 15:37:01 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 9 May 2019 05:10:19 -0700 (PDT),
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by General Zod
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 8 May 2019 14:50:47 -0700
How many times do you have to be told that nobody is interested
in reading your
None I say.....
If you are not interested do not read....
Do not comment....
Seems simple enough.....
The first time I read "Apple Non-tage," I thought it was relatively
good (relative to the rest of Will's gibberish, that is), due to the
sustained (and apparently unintentional) biblical metaphor.
Will received praise from all who commented on it, included the
supposed "malicious trolls."
I hope you're not including me in your lits.

If Dreckery ever posted anything worthy of even faint praise, I'd
assume he'd plagiarised it.
Post by Michael Pendragon
Several thousand bumps and reposts later, the poem has become
anathema to all and sundry.
Indeed, Mr Sundry has stopped reading AAPC, he tells me.
Post by Michael Pendragon
There's a lesson to learned from this. Unfortunately, both you and
Will are too dense to figure it out.
You certainly learnt. As you know, your "Creepy Mike Retrospectives"
got you killfiled faster than you could say "parlsied".
--
PJR :-)

τὸν οἰόμενον νόον ἔχειν ὁ νουθετέων ματαιοπονεῖ.
- Democritus
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-11 19:38:53 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 9 May 2019 05:10:19 -0700 (PDT),
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by General Zod
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 8 May 2019 14:50:47 -0700
How many times do you have to be told that nobody is interested
in reading your
None I say.....
If you are not interested do not read....
Do not comment....
Seems simple enough.....
The first time I read "Apple Non-tage," I thought it was relatively
good (relative to the rest of Will's gibberish, that is), due to the
sustained (and apparently unintentional) biblical metaphor.
Will received praise from all who commented on it, included the
supposed "malicious trolls."
I hope you're not including me in your lits.
If Dreckery ever posted anything worthy of even faint praise, I'd
assume he'd plagiarised it.
No, I wasn't including you.

The poem debuted in one of Jim's "Sunday Samplers."

Will had been whining his head off about how his poems were always lost in the shuffle in the Samplers and consequently ignored, and bitching and moaning about how the malicious trolls would automatically anything he posted.

However, when he posted a new poem (as opposed to his previous submissions of poems he'd been reposting here for every day for two decades), the "trolls" responded with words of encouragement and praise.

Will has been reposting "Apple Non-tage" 10x/day every day ever since.
Post by Peter J Ross
Post by Michael Pendragon
Several thousand bumps and reposts later, the poem has become
anathema to all and sundry.
Indeed, Mr Sundry has stopped reading AAPC, he tells me.
Damn! Yet another AAPC regular Will has driven away.
Post by Peter J Ross
Post by Michael Pendragon
There's a lesson to learned from this. Unfortunately, both you and
Will are too dense to figure it out.
You certainly learnt. As you know, your "Creepy Mike Retrospectives"
got you killfiled faster than you could say "parlsied".
Did I ever post retrospectives? I must have been trying to bother someone.
Peter J Ross
2019-05-11 20:04:21 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 11 May 2019 12:38:53 -0700 (PDT),
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Thu, 9 May 2019 05:10:19 -0700
On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 11:57:15 PM UTC-4, General Zod
Post by General Zod
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Wed, 8 May 2019 14:50:47 -0700
How many times do you have to be told that nobody is
interested in reading your
None I say.....
If you are not interested do not read....
Do not comment....
Seems simple enough.....
The first time I read "Apple Non-tage," I thought it was
relatively good (relative to the rest of Will's gibberish, that
is), due to the sustained (and apparently unintentional) biblical
metaphor.
Will received praise from all who commented on it, included the
supposed "malicious trolls."
I hope you're not including me in your lits.
If Dreckery ever posted anything worthy of even faint praise, I'd
assume he'd plagiarised it.
No, I wasn't including you.
The poem debuted in one of Jim's "Sunday Samplers."
Will had been whining his head off about how his poems were always
lost in the shuffle in the Samplers and consequently ignored, and
bitching and moaning about how the malicious trolls would
automatically anything he posted.
However, when he posted a new poem (as opposed to his previous
submissions of poems he'd been reposting here for every day for two
decades), the "trolls" responded with words of encouragement and
praise.
So he was congratulated because it was new, not because anybody was
stupid enough to think that it was good? That's a relief.
Post by Michael Pendragon
Will has been reposting "Apple Non-tage" 10x/day every day ever since.
Oh, has he? I hadn't noticed.

Meanwhile, of course, I've written no verse at all, not even a cento,
a limerick, or parodies of Shakespeare and Bukowski. That's because I
no longer post any verse under my own name, you see.
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Peter J Ross
Several thousand bumps and reposts later, the poem has become
anathema to all and sundry.
Indeed, Mr Sundry has stopped reading AAPC, he tells me.
Damn! Yet another AAPC regular Will has driven away.
But I have a feeling that Mr Allan Sundry might post a poem on 1st
April next year, and that George Dunce will beg him for the privilege
of "publishing" it.

(You might think that even Dunce would never fall for that, but Dunce
fell for rhonda-jane two or three years ago. It turns out that I put
far more effort into "Julius Wyatt" than was needed.)
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Peter J Ross
There's a lesson to learned from this. Unfortunately, both you
and Will are too dense to figure it out.
You certainly learnt. As you know, your "Creepy Mike
Retrospectives" got you killfiled faster than you could say
"parlsied".
Did I ever post retrospectives?
Yes.
Post by Michael Pendragon
I must have been trying to bother someone.
That seems unlikely, given your unfailingly polite and respectful
attitude.

You certainly didn't post the same thing often enough for it to be
deemed cancellable spam, which is what really matters.
--
PJR :-)

τὸν οἰόμενον νόον ἔχειν ὁ νουθετέων ματαιοπονεῖ.
- Democritus
Zod
2019-05-24 08:38:27 UTC
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In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 11 May 2019 12:38:53 -0700 (PDT),
Post by Michael Pendragon
Will has been reposting "Apple Montage
10x/day every day ever
since
Not really.............

If you stopped responding to this poem 10x a day then the thread would wind down.........

You know that.............

But you want to play stupid.............
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-24 12:35:15 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 11 May 2019 12:38:53 -0700 (PDT),
Post by Michael Pendragon
Will has been reposting "Apple Montage
10x/day every day ever
since
Not really.............
If you stopped responding to this poem 10x a day then the thread would wind down.........
You know that.............
But you want to play stupid.............
I left the group for 2 months in the Fall of '17, but "Apple Non-Tage" kept on going without me.
Zod
2019-05-24 21:46:35 UTC
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Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 11 May 2019 12:38:53 -0700 (PDT),
Post by Michael Pendragon
Will has been reposting "Apple Montage
10x/day every day ever
since
Not really.............
If you stopped responding to this poem 10x a day then the thread would wind down.........
You know that.............
But you want to play stupid.............
I left the group for 2 months in the Fall
Feel free to get lost any time.................
Rex Hunter Jr.
2019-08-11 21:40:38 UTC
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Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 11 May 2019 12:38:53 -0700 (PDT),
Post by Michael Pendragon
Will has been reposting "Apple Montage
10x/day every day ever
since
Not really.............
If you stopped responding to this poem 10x a day then the thread would wind down.........
You know that.............
But you want to play stupid.............
I left the group for 2 months in the Fall of '17
Too bad you returned.....
Rocky
2020-05-20 21:55:45 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 11 May 2019 12:38:53 -0700 (PDT),
Post by Michael Pendragon
Will has been reposting "Apple Montage
10x/day every day ever
since
Not really.............
If you stopped responding to this poem 10x a day then the thread would wind down.........
You know that.............
But you want to play stupid.............
I left the group for 2 months in the Fall of 17
Why not try that again....?
Zod
2019-05-23 03:52:55 UTC
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Post by Peter J Ross
How many times do you have to be told that nobody is interested
If you really are not interestwed then why not ignore and skip the post...? ??
Will Dockery
2019-08-11 08:14:40 UTC
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Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
Loading Image...
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
You're correct... and it only took Michael Pendragon three years to admit it.

:)
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-11 16:29:23 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
You're correct... and it only took Michael Pendragon three years to admit it.
Why do you lie so much, Turd?

It was not, is not, and never will be a montage.
Will Dockery
2019-08-11 19:00:24 UTC
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Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Will Dockery
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
You're correct... and it only took Michael Pendragon three years to admit it.
Why do you lie
<lies snipped>

You statement /here/ is a lie, Pendragon.

;)
Michael Pendragon
2019-08-11 22:16:44 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Will Dockery
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
You're correct... and it only took Michael Pendragon three years to admit it.
Why do you lie
<lies snipped>
You statement /here/ is a lie, Pendragon.
Provide the link to my alleged "admission" that your p.o.s. "poem" was a montage.
Will Dockery
2020-05-18 19:48:41 UTC
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Post by Michael Pendragon
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
<...>
Post by Michael Pendragon
"poem" was a montage
You do not have to agree, but by not agreeing you don't change the fact that "Apple Montage" is a montage in poetry form.

;)
Z***@none.i2p
2020-05-18 22:41:09 UTC
Permalink
Will Dockery wrote on Mon, 18 May 2020 19:48
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
<...>
Post by Michael Pendragon
"poem" was a montage
You do not have to agree, but by not agreeing you don't change the fact that "Apple Montage" is a montage in poetry form.
;)
Well put, Doc....
Michael Pendragon
2020-05-19 04:15:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
<...>
Post by Michael Pendragon
"poem" was a montage
You do not have to agree, but by not agreeing you don't change the fact that "Apple Montage" is a montage in poetry form.
We've been over this, Will. There is a literary device called "montage." You do not employ it (or anything remotely resembling it) in your poem.

Literary montage, like its cinematic counterpart, uses the juxtaposition of two or concepts to create a third concept that is not inherent in either of them on their own.

"Summer Ghosts" is an example of an extended poetic montage.



There is not one example of poetic montage in your Apple poem.

You obviously don't understand what poetic montage is; and seemingly reject the idea that such a literary device actually exists.

In short, you are a pig-headed ignoramus.
Z***@none.i2p
2020-05-19 05:23:37 UTC
Permalink
Michael Pendragon wrote on Tue, 19 May 2020 04:15
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
<...>
Post by Michael Pendragon
"poem" was a montage
You do not have to agree, but by not agreeing you don't change the fact that "Apple Montage" is a montage in poetry form.
There is a literary device called "montage."
This is Doc's version of a montage, and he does it quite well.....
Will Dockery
2020-05-19 05:48:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
<...>
Post by Michael Pendragon
"poem" was a montage
You do not have to agree, but by not agreeing you don't change the fact that "Apple Montage" is a montage in poetry form.
We've been over this, Will. There is a literary device called "montage." You do not employ it (or anything remotely resembling it) in your poem.
Literary montage, like its cinematic counterpart, uses the juxtaposition of two or concepts to create a third concept that is not inherent in either of them on their own.
"Summer Ghosts" is an example of an extended poetic montage.
http://youtu.be/qZOcXcqKbBk
There is not one example of poetic montage in your Apple poem.
You obviously don't understand what poetic montage is; and seemingly reject the idea that such a literary device actually exists.
In short, you are a pig-headed ignoramus.
I wrote a poem which was my version of a montage, you don't accept that, which is your right.

;)
Michael Pendragon
2020-05-19 09:06:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
<...>
Post by Michael Pendragon
"poem" was a montage
You do not have to agree, but by not agreeing you don't change the fact that "Apple Montage" is a montage in poetry form.
We've been over this, Will. There is a literary device called "montage." You do not employ it (or anything remotely resembling it) in your poem.
Literary montage, like its cinematic counterpart, uses the juxtaposition of two or concepts to create a third concept that is not inherent in either of them on their own.
"Summer Ghosts" is an example of an extended poetic montage.
http://youtu.be/qZOcXcqKbBk
There is not one example of poetic montage in your Apple poem.
You obviously don't understand what poetic montage is; and seemingly reject the idea that such a literary device actually exists.
In short, you are a pig-headed ignoramus.
I wrote a poem which was my version of a montage, you don't accept that, which is your right.
You can't have a personal version of an established literary device, Will.

Next thing you'll be saying is that your version of iambic pentameter has 27 feet.
Will Dockery
2020-05-19 09:18:31 UTC
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Post by Michael Pendragon
You can't have a personal version of an established literary device, Will.
You're right.

From now on I'll just call the poem "Apple Montage" and not bother to try and argue that it is an actual montage.
Will Dockery
2020-05-19 15:01:06 UTC
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Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Will Dockery
I wrote a poem which was my version of a montage, you don't accept that, which is your right.
You can't have a personal version of an established literary device, Will.
Okay, that said, I'm ready to agree with you, can you give me a good link on the established style of "poetry montage"?

I'm checking out Langston Hughes, who does seem to have a personal version of montage in poetry:

https://www.litcharts.com/poetry/langston-hughes/harlem

"Langston Hughes wrote “Harlem” in 1951 as part of a book-length sequence, Montage of a Dream Deferred. Inspired by blues and jazz music, Montage, which Hughes intended to be read as a single long poem, explores the lives and consciousness of the black community in Harlem, and the continuous experience of racial injustice within this community. “Harlem” considers the harm that is caused when the dream of racial equality is continuously delayed. Ultimately, the poem suggests, society will have to reckon with this dream, as the dreamers claim what is rightfully their own..."
Michael Pendragon
2020-05-19 17:48:07 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Will Dockery
I wrote a poem which was my version of a montage, you don't accept that, which is your right.
You can't have a personal version of an established literary device, Will.
Okay, that said, I'm ready to agree with you, can you give me a good link on the established style of "poetry montage"?
https://www.litcharts.com/poetry/langston-hughes/harlem
"Langston Hughes wrote “Harlem” in 1951 as part of a book-length sequence, Montage of a Dream Deferred. Inspired by blues and jazz music, Montage, which Hughes intended to be read as a single long poem, explores the lives and consciousness of the black community in Harlem, and the continuous experience of racial injustice within this community. “Harlem” considers the harm that is caused when the dream of racial equality is continuously delayed. Ultimately, the poem suggests, society will have to reckon with this dream, as the dreamers claim what is rightfully their own..."
Here's the first result from my Google search:

The website is called "Literary Terms," and the passage excerpted below both explains the term and provides an example:

"T.S. Eliot’s The Wasteland is arguably a montage in poetic form. Eliot’s poem is a vast network of references to classical literature and poetry, and its structure is built out of a sequence of discreet images, similar to a film montage. Each image stands on its own (like a vignette), but they all work together to tell a general story."

https://literaryterms.net/montage/

"Your Dictionary" basically repeats this definition (3a): any similar technique, as in literature or music, of juxtaposing discrete or contrasting elements."

https://www.yourdictionary.com/montage

The key words are "juxtaposition" and "discrete."

Merriam-Webster defines "discrete" as follows: "constituting a separate entity : individually distinct." It defines "juxtaposition" as: "the act or an instance of placing two or more things side by side often to compare or contrast or to create an interesting effect."

A picture of a horse is unrelated to a picture of a car, or to a picture of a jet plane. However, if I showed you a picture of a horse, followed by a picture of a car, followed by a picture of a jet plane the *juxtaposition* of the three images creates a concept that does not exist in any of the images taken separately.

IOW: a picture of a horse is only a picture of a horse. But if you juxtapose it with a picture of a car and a plane, it becomes a comment on the evolution of forms of travel.

Horse = Horse.
Horse + Car + Jet Plane = history of forms of tranportation/increasing speed and distance.

Three pictures of horses would only constitute a "montage" if the juxtaposition of the images created a concept that doesn't exist in the individual (discrete) pictures.

Similarly, trees + trees + plus more trees = lots of trees. This is not a literary montage because each of the discrete images is of trees. Increasing the numbers of the trees is basic arithmetic -- not montage.

"Summer Ghosts" is a montage poem, because each of the discrete elements listed in its text take on a *new* meaning through juxtaposition:

Night and day they follow me
Just outside my range of sight,
Shades of things that used to be
Singing to me all the night,
Singing of forgotten things
Childhood dreams and fairy wings
Hours lost in idle play
Loved ones who have 'gone away'
Slingshots, bottle caps and strings
Backyard picnics, tire swings
Snakes and turtles, dogs and cats
Scuffles, skinned knees, baseball bats
Skinny dipping, fishing holes,
Schoolyard buddies, football goals
Counting stars on moonlit nights
Paper airplanes, pillow fights
Tummy aches and runny nose
Sunday-go-to-meeting clothes
Mother's kisses, father's hugs
Butterflies and doodle bugs
Popcorn, peanuts, puddin' 'n' pie
Pink cloud-dragons in the sky
Pop guns, cap guns, coonskin hats
Black eyes, fistfights, tits for tats
Fire engines, freight train cars
Fireflies in Mason jars
Goldfish, hoagies, fake tattoos
Fourth of July barbeques
Cootie catchers, toadstools, ticks
Kickball, chicken, pickup sticks
Cub Scouts, campfires, weenie roasts
Scary stories, schoolyard boasts
Red light, green light, Simon said
Bears and prayers and off to bed.
All these memories, I keep
Dear as faded photographs,
When I close my eyes to sleep
When my son or daughter laughs
When the night wind sings to me
Of all the things that used to be.
Rocky
2020-05-19 22:29:50 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Will Dockery
I wrote a poem which was my version of a montage, you don't accept that, which is your right.
You can't have a personal version of an established literary device, Will.
Okay, that said, I'm ready to agree with you, can you give me a good link on the established style of "poetry montage"?
https://www.litcharts.com/poetry/langston-hughes/harlem
"Langston Hughes wrote “Harlem” in 1951 as part of a book-length sequence, Montage of a Dream Deferred. Inspired by blues and jazz music, Montage, which Hughes intended to be read as a single long poem, explores the lives and consciousness of the black community in Harlem, and the continuous experience of racial injustice within this community. “Harlem” considers the harm that is caused when the dream of racial equality is continuously delayed. Ultimately, the poem suggests, society will have to reckon with this dream, as the dreamers claim what is rightfully their own..."
Good point, Doc.....
Will Dockery
2023-09-03 08:45:33 UTC
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Post by Rocky
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Will Dockery
I wrote a poem which was my version of a montage, you don't accept that, which is your right.
You can't have a personal version of an established literary device, Will.
Okay, that said, I'm ready to agree with you, can you give me a good link on the established style of "poetry montage"?
https://www.litcharts.com/poetry/langston-hughes/harlem
"Langston Hughes wrote “Harlem” in 1951 as part of a book-length sequence, Montage of a Dream Deferred. Inspired by blues and jazz music, Montage, which Hughes intended to be read as a single long poem, explores the lives and consciousness of the black community in Harlem, and the continuous experience of racial injustice within this community. “Harlem” considers the harm that is caused when the dream of racial equality is continuously delayed. Ultimately, the poem suggests, society will have to reckon with this dream, as the dreamers claim what is rightfully their own..."
Good point, Doc.....
Hello again Zod, thanks for the read.
General-Zod
2023-09-09 21:04:45 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Post by Rocky
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Will Dockery
I wrote a poem which was my version of a montage, you don't accept that, which is your right.
You can't have a personal version of an established literary device, Will.
Okay, that said, I'm ready to agree with you, can you give me a good link on the established style of "poetry montage"?
https://www.litcharts.com/poetry/langston-hughes/harlem
"Langston Hughes wrote “Harlem” in 1951 as part of a book-length sequence, Montage of a Dream Deferred. Inspired by blues and jazz music, Montage, which Hughes intended to be read as a single long poem, explores the lives and consciousness of the black community in Harlem, and the continuous experience of racial injustice within this community. “Harlem” considers the harm that is caused when the dream of racial equality is continuously delayed. Ultimately, the poem suggests, society will have to reckon with this dream, as the dreamers claim what is rightfully their own..."
Good point, Doc.....
Hello again Zod, thanks for the read.
Cool day to you, sir...
W.Dockery
2023-09-12 17:15:44 UTC
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Post by General-Zod
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Rocky
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Will Dockery
I wrote a poem which was my version of a montage, you don't accept that, which is your right.
You can't have a personal version of an established literary device, Will.
Okay, that said, I'm ready to agree with you, can you give me a good link on the established style of "poetry montage"?
https://www.litcharts.com/poetry/langston-hughes/harlem
"Langston Hughes wrote “Harlem” in 1951 as part of a book-length sequence, Montage of a Dream Deferred. Inspired by blues and jazz music, Montage, which Hughes intended to be read as a single long poem, explores the lives and consciousness of the black community in Harlem, and the continuous experience of racial injustice within this community. “Harlem” considers the harm that is caused when the dream of racial equality is continuously delayed. Ultimately, the poem suggests, society will have to reckon with this dream, as the dreamers claim what is rightfully their own..."
Good point, Doc.....
Hello again Zod, thanks for the read.
Cool day to you, sir...
Likewise.

🙂

Rex Hunter Jr.
2019-08-11 22:29:41 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
You're correct... and it only took Michael Pendragon three years to admit it.
:)
That just about was how I nailed it...………..
Will Dockery
2019-08-12 00:27:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rex Hunter Jr.
Post by Will Dockery
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
You're correct... and it only took Michael Pendragon three years to admit it.
:)
That just about was how I nailed it...………..
Indeed.

:)
Rex Hunter Jr.
2019-08-13 23:44:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Will Dockery
Post by Rex Hunter Jr.
Post by Will Dockery
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
You're correct... and it only took Michael Pendragon three years to admit it.
:)
That just about was how I nailed it...………..
Indeed.
:)
Ha ha...
H***@novabbs.i2p
2020-01-27 21:57:59 UTC
Permalink
Will Dockery wrote on Sun, 11 August 2019 08:14
Post by Will Dockery
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
You're correct... and it only took Michael Pendragon three years to admit it.
:)
Hah ha ha....
H***@novabbs.i2p
2020-02-09 06:05:35 UTC
Permalink
Will Dockery wrote on Sun, 11 August 2019 08:14
Post by Will Dockery
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
You're correct... and it only took Michael Pendragon three years to admit it.
:)
Pen is rather slow....
H***@novabbs.i2p
2020-02-24 23:45:28 UTC
Permalink
Will Dockery wrote on Sun, 11 August 2019 08:14
Post by Will Dockery
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
You're correct... and it only took Michael Pendragon three years to admit it.
:)
Ha ha ha.....
G Terrance Zod
2020-03-06 09:57:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Will Dockery
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
You're correct... and it only took Michael Pendragon three years to admit it.
:)
Ha ha ha....
Rocky
2020-05-18 17:50:31 UTC
Permalink
Will Dockery wrote on Sun, 11 August 2019 08:14
Post by Will Dockery
Here, I will explain the poem scene by scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
1.....
Post by Will Dockery
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
2....
Post by Will Dockery
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
that makes 3 scenes... or images...
Post by Will Dockery
There were several
of those trees
4th scenes in the montage.....
Post by Will Dockery
and other trees
behind them
5th scene as the "camera" backs up...
Post by Will Dockery
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Bam... 6th scene is a big Vista Vision shot.......
Post by Will Dockery
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
7th scene... montage of crowd....
Post by Will Dockery
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
8th scene close up of the two men.....
Post by Will Dockery
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
9th scene.... zoom into the view in the pot...
Such as...
http://www.jpost.com/sites/default/files/BloggersImages/822%5C/image/goat_head_soup_alt.jpg
Only with apples cooking in the image....
Post by Will Dockery
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
10th scene in the montage....
Post by Will Dockery
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
11th scene.....
Post by Will Dockery
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
"Misty" steam swirl effect... montage style... #12 scene...
Post by Will Dockery
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
Scene 13 with Doc and Jenny......
Post by Will Dockery
-Will Dockery
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/cEgduQLs/apple-montage-will-dockery-ping-george
:)
There you have it... the montage explained scene by scene.....
You're correct... and it only took Michael Pendragon three years to admit it.
:)
Ha ha ha....
Will Dockery
2019-05-08 23:00:42 UTC
Permalink
PJR... I didn't know that you cared.

<3
Will Dockery
2019-05-13 04:25:32 UTC
Permalink
You are allowed your opinion of my poem, "Michael Pendragon", but that
Apple Montage is my application in poetry of montage effects.
You do not agree?
You are allowed your opinion, of course.
Yes it is, it is those things many times over, in fact, just read the poem
Apple Montage Sneaking around with Cousin Jenny, smoking menthol beyond
the sheds. Late summer vacation 1973 in the backwoods of Tennessee. To
the right behind the barn were apple trees. There were several of those
trees and other trees behind them beyond a field and behind them, other
trees. Later, I stood near as a crowd watched Pops and my Uncle cooking
apple butter; stirring the brown gunk, boiling in a huge black kettle. I
saw my father secretly pass a wine bottle to my Uncle Clarence. I went
from breathing cold mist out back behind the barn, to breathing the hot
misty steam. The air smelled of apple fumes and strong booze. -Will
Dockery
"Photography is truth. The cinema is truth twenty-four times per
second." -Jean Luc Godard
I simply apply that to poetics.
HTH & HAND...

:)
Zod
2019-05-14 03:43:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Will Dockery
You are allowed your opinion of my poem, "Michael Pendragon", but that
Apple Montage is my application in poetry of montage effects.
You do not agree?
You are allowed your opinion, of course.
Yes it is, it is those things many times over, in fact, just read the poem
Apple Montage Sneaking around with Cousin Jenny, smoking menthol beyond
the sheds. Late summer vacation 1973 in the backwoods of Tennessee. To
the right behind the barn were apple trees. There were several of those
trees and other trees behind them beyond a field and behind them, other
trees. Later, I stood near as a crowd watched Pops and my Uncle cooking
apple butter; stirring the brown gunk, boiling in a huge black kettle. I
saw my father secretly pass a wine bottle to my Uncle Clarence. I went
from breathing cold mist out back behind the barn, to breathing the hot
misty steam. The air smelled of apple fumes and strong booze. -Will
Dockery
"Photography is truth. The cinema is truth twenty-four times per
second." -Jean Luc Godard
I simply apply that to poetics.
HTH & HAND...
:)
Nailed it Doc.....
G Terrance Zod
2020-03-12 03:07:27 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
PJR... I didn't know that you cared.
<3
Ha ha ha....
General Zod
2019-05-08 23:35:45 UTC
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About Group

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!aboutgroup/alt.arts.poetry.comments

Group name
alt.arts.poetry.comments

Description
a place to post and comment on poetry

Thus:

Apple Montage / Will Dockery (2018)

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.arts.poetry.comments/Q3NHCGxlE1w/zmNRrz8uAQAJ

Is a poem...

Any questions...? ??
Will Dockery
2019-05-09 00:40:45 UTC
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Exactly...

If they really had no interest, they'd skip and ignore my poetry.

😀
Will Dockery
2019-05-09 19:30:24 UTC
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No, Pendragon, Apple Montage is my montage in poetry form, you just don't accept that fact.
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-09 19:55:10 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
No, Pendragon, Apple Montage is my montage in poetry form, you just don't accept that fact.
While your gross ignorance of the language may be a fact, it does not make the content of your misconceptions factual.
Will Dockery
2019-05-09 20:34:07 UTC
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You've been shown the term montage can mean much more or less than your rigid ideas, Pendragon.
Sgt Costello
2019-05-10 00:28:09 UTC
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Utter nonsense...

Of course the poem simulates a montage effect.
Zod
2019-05-11 06:22:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
There were several
of those trees
and other trees
behind them
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
-Will Dockery / 2018
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
--------------------------------------------
Once again without a doubt this is Doc's poetry version of a montage.....

As an artist I can verify this....

My expert opinion.......
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-11 06:36:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Zod
Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
There were several
of those trees
and other trees
behind them
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
-Will Dockery / 2018
--------------------------------------------
The other thread for this poem is getting so long I want to start a new one specifically for discussion of the poem, which continues.
--------------------------------------------
Once again without a doubt this is Doc's poetry version of a montage.....
As an artist I can verify this....
My expert opinion.......
As a perpetually drunk, illiterate pissbum, you can't even verify which way is up.

I'll make it easy for you: describe an example of poetic montage in Will's poem *without using the word "montage."*
Will Dockery
2019-05-11 19:26:47 UTC
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No surprise you panned the poem, PJR.

You're so predictable.

😉
Will Dockery
2019-05-11 19:33:22 UTC
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Whether you agree or not, the poem is my vision of a montage in poetry form.
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-11 19:41:15 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Whether you agree or not, the poem is my vision of a montage in poetry form.
That's an improvement over your previous claim that it's a poem in montage form.

However, when your vision of a montage doesn't even remotely match the general definition, it's usually a sign that you need to rethink your vision.
Peter J Ross
2019-05-11 19:50:12 UTC
Permalink
In alt.arts.poetry.comments on Sat, 11 May 2019 12:33:22 -0700 (PDT),
Post by Will Dockery
Whether you agree or not, the poem is my vision of a montage in poetry form.
Not only is it neither a poem not a montage, but it's also not a
vision.

Everybody with an IQ above 80 agrees about that.

HTH!
--
PJR :-)

τὸν οἰόμενον νόον ἔχειν ὁ νουθετέων ματαιοπονεῖ.
- Democritus
Will Dockery
2019-05-11 20:29:32 UTC
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I've been telling you that the poem uses montage effects in poetry form for a while now.

That won't change.
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-12 03:50:29 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
I've been telling you that the poem uses montage effects in poetry form for a while now.
That won't change.
I know... but only because you're willfully stupid.
Zod
2019-05-12 03:55:52 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
I've been telling you that the poem uses montage effects in poetry form for a while now.
That won't change.
And it shall not....

My comix style montage illustration is in the works.....
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-12 04:56:39 UTC
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Post by Zod
Post by Will Dockery
I've been telling you that the poem uses montage effects in poetry form for a while now.
That won't change.
And it shall not....
My comix style montage illustration is in the works.....
I've no doubt that it will be comical... I only wonder how much will actually correspond to the poem.
Will Dockery
2019-05-12 06:13:27 UTC
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Either way, I am looking forward to seeing the Zod illustration of the Apple Montage poem.
Michael Pendragon
2019-05-12 07:46:44 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Either way, I am looking forward to seeing the Zod illustration of the Apple Montage poem.
Perhaps you could talk Dunce into publishing it as an illustrated chapbook.
Zod
2019-05-12 07:52:30 UTC
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Post by Michael Pendragon
Post by Will Dockery
Either way, I am looking forward to seeing the Zod illustration of the Apple Montage poem.
Perhaps you could talk Dunce into publishing it as an illustrated chapbook.
You mean George Dance...?? ?

You and your childish name calling......
Zod
2019-05-12 21:52:14 UTC
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Simply put....


The words and images come together to from a montage effect in poetry form....

If read properly.....
Zod
2019-05-19 02:34:07 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
There were several
of those trees
and other trees
behind them
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
-Will Dockery / 2018
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Quite obviously a montage in poetry form........
Will Dockery
2019-05-19 23:05:11 UTC
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True, this poem was the result of my experiment with montage effects.
Zod
2019-05-20 23:39:01 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
There were several
of those trees
and other trees
behind them
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
-Will Dockery / 2018
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The experiments with montage effects were quite successful......
Rex Hunter Jr.
2019-08-12 03:20:38 UTC
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Post by Will Dockery
Apple Montage
Sneaking around
with Cousin Jenny,
smoking menthol
beyond the sheds.
Late summer vacation 1973
in the backwoods of Tennessee.
To the right
behind the barn
were apple trees.
There were several
of those trees
and other trees
behind them
beyond a field
and behind them, other trees.
Later, I stood near
as a crowd
watched Pops and my Uncle
cooking apple butter;
stirring the brown gunk,
boiling in a huge black kettle.
I saw my father
secretly pass
a wine bottle
to my Uncle Clarence.
I went from
breathing cold mist
out back behind the barn,
to breathing
the hot misty steam.
The air smelled of apple fumes
and strong booze.
-Will Dockery / 2018
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Clearly this is a montage in poetic form....

To stress the fact....
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