Uh oh.. What's this? Patrick Michael Sullivan's nuked post backstabbing Cori Wasserman on NANAE was Re: GANG CRAP -

It must be happy hour in Australia, 'cos Robert Griffin is on a tear
again...

USENET KOOK AND STALKER ROBERT GRIFFIN OF QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA

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EVER A MORON in 2005, i.e. one of the 80+ aliases of Patrick Michael
Sullivan (Nanaimo BC's obsessed cyber stalker and self-admitted
convicted criminal who admitted going to prison for car and boat theft)

NANAE is full of off topic posts and silly little
squabbles.

Like Patrick Michael Sullivan's little spat with Cori Wasserman that
the Patrick Michael Sullivan uber kook dragged in NANAE?

So what. Ask Cori how she feels about me. Real friends can fight and
then be friends again. That is something you are not capable of,
Robert, because you are sick minded, aren't you?

Look at Russell Miller and his c&p's to AUK. And look at
Viper's latest postings on NANAE that are off topic and just plain
childish and stoopid.

Haha. The (crack)pot calls the kettle black!

In my opinion, you are drunk and out of your mind, again. How much have
you had to drink tonight, Robert?

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How about we look at Patrick Michael Sullivan's own pathetic whine
below about Cori Wasserman on NANAE, that the cowardly stalking kook
later nuked?

Cori and I are friends. Now deal with it. But lay off the booze. You
cannot handle your ale, so I have heard from another ASHer.
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Shut the F Up the person you are argueing with will not listen to
reason.
Best we both forget him it's better for both our healths to do so I
think and I think you do also.

It's best that the both of you quit publishing lies and posting
outright BS about people on this NG, right?

An assumtion is nothing more than a curiousity.

Ed suffers more than you can imagine. You come up with wierd Trolly
post weather we talk or not and you lie about me all the time. You have
gone over the edge.

Last night, Edward made the claim that my hundreds of telephone calls
to you were now just harassment. When it was you who would

telephone

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me

telephone

calls into his own little game and labels it as being abusive.

Sick...
Ed said blah blah so what??? I never made those claims.

And reason? How do you or Ed expect to ever reason with another

person

when you are both spewing packs of lies around Usenet? You cannot,
Cori.

No body lied they only told the truth as they saw it.

Ed stated he wanted peace. Well Ed first needs to quit posting lies

and

Martha is back on the board.

And that, "miss spelling" is the person you have now chosen to call
your friend. And he is a liar of the highest order.

Patrick.

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BYE
Cori
______________________________________________
Nice how it stab it's "friends" in the back, hmmm?
We can but wonder when it's Banana Squirtz's turn to get knifed in the
back by this two faced coward.
Awww... what's Paddy gonna do? Put it's retarded "curse" on me, like
the snivelling, lying, gutless kooked out coward it is?
Put up one of it's retarded web pages that barely last 24 hours before
being slammed down (with the IPs being logged and recorded each time of
who established the sites)?
Gee, I expect the cyber stalking freak is going to have to explain the
origin of the previously unpublished photographs the freak has

obtained

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and published without permission...
The freak is also going to have to explain why it ignored the RCMP
advice given to it, which was basically to leave me the fuck alone...
from months before the cyber stalking freak obtained thise photos...
Or is the spineless freak just going to spam out the same stupid lies
it has for the last 3 years, thus adding to the already huge body of
evidence of relentless cyber stalking that will be used to fry the
freak come Court Time, while the cowardly freak mistakenly believes it
is "safe" by hiding behind aioe.org to spam it's crap under the "Baby
Bro" handle... and being retarded enough to believe that it's

Uniserve

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IPs are not being logged there as well?
--
(BTW (to the non-kooks), a stalking kook going by the
monikers outlined in the URL below will most likely start
frothing immediately upon reading this post... it is best
to simply ignore it.

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=btk451h8mhqrislk59d09v6l1eh8v3556p%404ax.com

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- losing many internet accounts for sending death threats, spamming,
and other internet abuse
- being questioned by the RCMP in relation to his internet activities
and being told by them to stop it's inappropriate behavior
- making false accusations of others being under investigation by
authorities, when no such investigations are taking place, nor were
ever initiated
- posting fictional sob stories on support groups to mislead gullible
posters unaware of the kook's history, into giving it sympathy
- hiding behind multiple sockpuppet accounts and proxies and
pretending to be totally different people to intentionally mislead
technically unaware posters of its identity ... then later lying to
try to cover that fact up
- taunting depressed and suicidal posters with false and fraudulent
accusations and manufacturing evidence to back up those false
accusations
- attempting to use the media to embarress and shame it's enemies
- stalking genuinely suicidal people and any opposition to it and it's
fellow kooks
- betraying it's "friends" at random... often by complaining to their
providers and whining on news.admin.net-abuse.* newsgroups about posts
expressing different opinons to the kook's own, and whining
about it's former "friends" emailing it
- teaming up with known Xtian extremists, script kiddies, and
$cientologists to stalk depressed and suicidal people in the real
world
- blackmailing and threatening suicidal and depressed people
- sending threatening email to depressed and suicidal female posters
to reveal personal info pertaining to the kook's "enemies", in order
to aid the kook's stalking and real-lifing,
- challenging posters in Canadian newsgroups to fist-fights and then
failing to appear itself, yet the kook has the temerity to brand
others "physical cowards"
- impersonating others in it's posts
- attempting to intimidate attorneys and Officers Of The Court with
common assault in order to drop the civil case pending against the
kook
...amongst many years of many other sleazy, deceptive acts on it's
part, all of which it now has to answer for... in a civil case listed
as S42823 in the Nanaimo Registry of the Supreme Court
of British Columbia.
It is this writer's opinion that Patrick Michael Sullivan of Nanaimo
BC, Canada, is a stalking, lying, obsessed, dangerous kook.
Let's hope the Court slaps this kook down good and hard in this coming
court case, before it moves from it's full-time cyber stalking into
full-time real-world stalking.. and becomes a greater danger to
others.

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-23 16:20:16 UTC

Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan
of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same treatment
from the Sullivan uber kook?

Any bets?

Criminal obsesso cyber stalker PARTRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN babbled and

Post by Mari-Mac
It must be happy hour in Australia, 'cos Robert Griffin is on a tear
again...
USENET KOOK AND STALKER ROBERT GRIFFIN OF QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA

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EVER A MORON in 2005, i.e. one of the 80+ aliases of Patrick

Michael

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Sullivan (Nanaimo BC's obsessed cyber stalker and self-admitted
convicted criminal who admitted going to prison for car and boat

theft)

NANAE is full of off topic posts and silly little
squabbles.

Like Patrick Michael Sullivan's little spat with Cori Wasserman that
the Patrick Michael Sullivan uber kook dragged in NANAE?

So what. Ask Cori how she feels about me. Real friends can fight and
then be friends again. That is something you are not capable of,
Robert, because you are sick minded, aren't you?

Look at Russell Miller and his c&p's to AUK. And look at
Viper's latest postings on NANAE that are off topic and just plain
childish and stoopid.

Haha. The (crack)pot calls the kettle black!

In my opinion, you are drunk and out of your mind, again. How much have
you had to drink tonight, Robert?

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How about we look at Patrick Michael Sullivan's own pathetic whine
below about Cori Wasserman on NANAE, that the cowardly stalking kook
later nuked?

Cori and I are friends. Now deal with it. But lay off the booze. You
cannot handle your ale, so I have heard from another ASHer.

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Shut the F Up the person you are argueing with will not listen to
reason.
Best we both forget him it's better for both our healths to do

Post by Mari-Mac
I

think and I think you do also.

It's best that the both of you quit publishing lies and posting
outright BS about people on this NG, right?

An assumtion is nothing more than a curiousity.

Ed claims he wants peace and not to communicate with me or about

this

situation. So do you. However, you both continue to come forward

and

create silly little postings for the sole purpose of HARASSMENT and
pathetic attempts at ATTENTION SEEKING.

Ed suffers more than you can imagine. You come up with wierd Trolly
post weather we talk or not and you lie about me all the time. You

have

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gone over the edge.

Last night, Edward made the claim that my hundreds of telephone

calls

to you were now just harassment. When it was you who would

telephone

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me

sometimes 3 or more times per day asking me to call you back to

save

you the phone bill, because you could not afford the cell phone

bill.

And I did just that. I called you when you wanted me to and now for
some reason, Edward has turned these friendship and support

telephone

calls into his own little game and labels it as being abusive.

Sick...
Ed said blah blah so what??? I never made those claims.

And reason? How do you or Ed expect to ever reason with another

person

when you are both spewing packs of lies around Usenet? You

cannot,

Cori.

No body lied they only told the truth as they saw it.

Ed stated he wanted peace. Well Ed first needs to quit posting lies

and

harassing other people on this NG. Ed's been caught BIG TIME in his
lies in the past, especially when he communicated about Martha

behind

her back, then got caught and DENIED it all. Talk about betrayal

and

lies.

Martha is back on the board.

And that, "miss spelling" is the person you have now chosen to call
your friend. And he is a liar of the highest order.

Congratulations...
Yes a man who calls me as soon as I get out ogf the hospital

because

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is concerned about my condition . You act like you know nothing what
about T he is like your best friend and he suffer the same fate me

and

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ED do. I don't know why I bother not like you care is it???? Just

want

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another flame fight I will pray for you tonight that you become you
again even if we never speak again . I still wish Patrick was

Patrick.

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BYE
Cori
______________________________________________
Nice how it stab it's "friends" in the back, hmmm?
We can but wonder when it's Banana Squirtz's turn to get knifed in

the

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back by this two faced coward.
Awww... what's Paddy gonna do? Put it's retarded "curse" on me, like
the snivelling, lying, gutless kooked out coward it is?
Put up one of it's retarded web pages that barely last 24 hours

before

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being slammed down (with the IPs being logged and recorded each

time

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of

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who established the sites)?
Gee, I expect the cyber stalking freak is going to have to explain

the

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origin of the previously unpublished photographs the freak has

obtained

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and published without permission...
The freak is also going to have to explain why it ignored the RCMP
advice given to it, which was basically to leave me the fuck

alone...

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from months before the cyber stalking freak obtained thise

photos...

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Or is the spineless freak just going to spam out the same stupid lies
it has for the last 3 years, thus adding to the already huge body of
evidence of relentless cyber stalking that will be used to fry the
freak come Court Time, while the cowardly freak mistakenly believes

Post by a***@gmail.com
is "safe" by hiding behind aioe.org to spam it's crap under the "Baby
Bro" handle... and being retarded enough to believe that it's

Uniserve

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=btk451h8mhqrislk59d09v6l1eh8v3556p%404ax.com

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- losing many internet accounts for sending death threats,

spamming,

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and other internet abuse
- being questioned by the RCMP in relation to his internet

activities

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and being told by them to stop it's inappropriate behavior
- making false accusations of others being under investigation by
authorities, when no such investigations are taking place, nor were
ever initiated
- posting fictional sob stories on support groups to mislead

gullible

Post by a***@gmail.com
posters unaware of the kook's history, into giving it sympathy
- hiding behind multiple sockpuppet accounts and proxies and
pretending to be totally different people to intentionally mislead
technically unaware posters of its identity ... then later lying to
try to cover that fact up
- taunting depressed and suicidal posters with false and fraudulent
accusations and manufacturing evidence to back up those false
accusations
- attempting to use the media to embarress and shame it's enemies
- stalking genuinely suicidal people and any opposition to it and

it's

Post by a***@gmail.com
fellow kooks
- betraying it's "friends" at random... often by complaining to their
providers and whining on news.admin.net-abuse.* newsgroups about

posts

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expressing different opinons to the kook's own, and whining
about it's former "friends" emailing it
- teaming up with known Xtian extremists, script kiddies, and
$cientologists to stalk depressed and suicidal people in the real
world
- blackmailing and threatening suicidal and depressed people
- sending threatening email to depressed and suicidal female

posters

Post by a***@gmail.com
to reveal personal info pertaining to the kook's "enemies", in order
to aid the kook's stalking and real-lifing,
- challenging posters in Canadian newsgroups to fist-fights and then
failing to appear itself, yet the kook has the temerity to brand
others "physical cowards"
- impersonating others in it's posts
- attempting to intimidate attorneys and Officers Of The Court with
common assault in order to drop the civil case pending against the
kook
...amongst many years of many other sleazy, deceptive acts on it's
part, all of which it now has to answer for... in a civil case listed
as S42823 in the Nanaimo Registry of the Supreme Court
of British Columbia.
It is this writer's opinion that Patrick Michael Sullivan of

Nanaimo

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BC, Canada, is a stalking, lying, obsessed, dangerous kook.
Let's hope the Court slaps this kook down good and hard in this

coming

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court case, before it moves from it's full-time cyber stalking into
full-time real-world stalking.. and becomes a greater danger to
others.

Mari-Mac

2005-05-23 16:39:47 UTC

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Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sullivan

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of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

BS. Cori said some stuff, and I did too. Now we are friends again. Ask
her yourself.

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How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same treatment
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

I wouldn't bet the farm or the beer money on it, Robert. You'd lose.
Anyway, you need that money to give to your kook suit lawyer, Dan W.
Burnett, right, you kook?

You have been trying to break up friendships for years on ASH. It has
not worked and it won't ever work.

We are not like you, Robert. We can argue and later forgive and forget.
But you? No, you cannot do that. Why is that? Is it because you are
psychotic? Or is it because you are just short, fat, balding and
insecure?

But whatever you are, you provide us all with countless hours of
entertainment and belly laughs.

So, 'ave at it! :D

corinne

2005-05-23 17:10:33 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sullivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

BS. Cori said some stuff, and I did too. Now we are friends again. Ask
her yourself.

Post by a***@gmail.com
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same

treatment

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from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

I wouldn't bet the farm or the beer money on it, Robert. You'd lose.
Anyway, you need that money to give to your kook suit lawyer, Dan W.
Burnett, right, you kook?
You have been trying to break up friendships for years on ASH. It has
not worked and it won't ever work.
We are not like you, Robert. We can argue and later forgive and forget.
But you? No, you cannot do that. Why is that? Is it because you are
psychotic? Or is it because you are just short, fat, balding and
insecure?
But whatever you are, you provide us all with countless hours of
entertainment and belly laughs.
So, 'ave at it! :D

-----------------------
Subject:Scientists create animals that are part-human -
and they live on usenet.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252/

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-23 17:28:23 UTC

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Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sullivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

BS. Cori said some stuff, and I did too. Now we are friends again. Ask
her yourself.

A good friendship overcomes a disagreement.

Post by a***@gmail.com
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same

treatment

Post by a***@gmail.com
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

I wouldn't bet the farm or the beer money on it, Robert. You'd lose.

That is what I told him too. :)

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Anyway, you need that money to give to your kook suit lawyer, Dan W.
Burnett, right, you kook?

I wonder if he has any attorney anymore. That case is now pending since
last November. No attorney filed any motion to submit or any motion for
action and the court ignores the kook case completely.

Post by a***@gmail.com
You have been trying to break up friendships for years on ASH. It has
not worked and it won't ever work.
We are not like you, Robert. We can argue and later forgive and forget.
But you? No, you cannot do that. Why is that? Is it because you are
psychotic? Or is it because you are just short, fat, balding and
insecure?
But whatever you are, you provide us all with countless hours of
entertainment and belly laughs.
So, 'ave at it! :D

He is very bitter, otherwise he would not harass your friends, like me
with 26 false complaints. And remember, these were just made in May and
late April. It is to assume that this lunatic files 26 or more false
complaints to my ISP and the library each month, only because he is
jealous of our friendship or sisterbrotherhood :) and hates my free
speech.

Barbara Schwarz

corinne

2005-05-23 17:35:02 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sullivan

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of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

BS. Cori said some stuff, and I did too. Now we are friends again.

Ask

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her yourself.

A good friendship overcomes a disagreement.

Post by a***@gmail.com
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same

treatment

Post by a***@gmail.com
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

I wouldn't bet the farm or the beer money on it, Robert. You'd lose.

That is what I told him too. :)

Post by a***@gmail.com
Anyway, you need that money to give to your kook suit lawyer, Dan W.
Burnett, right, you kook?

I wonder if he has any attorney anymore. That case is now pending since
last November. No attorney filed any motion to submit or any motion for
action and the court ignores the kook case completely.

Post by a***@gmail.com
You have been trying to break up friendships for years on ASH. It has
not worked and it won't ever work.
We are not like you, Robert. We can argue and later forgive and

forget.

Post by a***@gmail.com
But you? No, you cannot do that. Why is that? Is it because you are
psychotic? Or is it because you are just short, fat, balding and
insecure?
But whatever you are, you provide us all with countless hours of
entertainment and belly laughs.
So, 'ave at it! :D

------
Subject:Scientists create animals that are part-human -
now identified...and called Barbara Schwarz
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252/

n***@myway.com

2005-05-23 20:42:22 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sullivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

BS. Cori said some stuff, and I did too. Now we are friends again.

Ask

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her yourself.

A good friendship overcomes a disagreement.

True.

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How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same

treatment

Post by a***@gmail.com
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

I wouldn't bet the farm or the beer money on it, Robert. You'd lose.

That is what I told him too. :)

You were correct :)

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Anyway, you need that money to give to your kook suit lawyer, Dan W.
Burnett, right, you kook?

I wonder if he has any attorney anymore. That case is now pending since
last November. No attorney filed any motion to submit or any motion for
action and the court ignores the kook case completely.

Basically, Griffin is sinking himself with his own lies and abuse. He
has no case, never did. It's all stalking and harassment, just like his
FBI and RCMP and UEN filings were. The police agreed with that, in
Canada and in the USA. Seems other agencies are also in agreement that
Griffin files with intent to harass, too.

Post by a***@gmail.com
You have been trying to break up friendships for years on ASH. It has
not worked and it won't ever work.
We are not like you, Robert. We can argue and later forgive and

forget.

Right. And Griffin's complaints to the UEN further show his pattern of
abuse and harassment of us all. It would not surprise me to see that
over the course of 1 year Griffin has filed many hundreds of complaints
to many ISP's, police officials and other agencies. He is obsessed. And
he was obsessed with Doug for about 3 years, then Cori, then Louis,
then me, now you, and God knows who else. He's just obsessed, sister :)

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-23 17:23:10 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sullivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

You are the lying freak cyber stalker, Robert Griffin of Queensland,
Australia.

Post by a***@gmail.com
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same treatment
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

You lose, kook Griffin.

Vera (Vera Six) and also Doug Wiser, you should read this. Robert
Griffin wants Patrick isolated and that we should turn out backs on
him. Isn't that typically Griffin?
I wonder if he does to his friends what lies about Patrick.

Barbara Schwarz

Greg Carr

2005-05-23 20:51:57 UTC

Into the kill file. This loser actually claims the govt kidnapped her
husband. Do a Google search of her if you want an offbeat read.

On 23 May 2005 10:23:10 -0700, "Barbara Schwarz"

Post by a***@gmail.com
Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sullivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

You are the lying freak cyber stalker, Robert Griffin of Queensland,
Australia.

Post by a***@gmail.com
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same treatment
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

You lose, kook Griffin.
Vera (Vera Six) and also Doug Wiser, you should read this. Robert
Griffin wants Patrick isolated and that we should turn out backs on
him. Isn't that typically Griffin?
I wonder if he does to his friends what lies about Patrick.
Barbara Schwarz

Heywood Jablomi

2005-05-23 21:30:48 UTC

In article <***@4ax.com>, ***@shaw.ca
says...

Post by Greg Carr
Into the kill file. This loser actually claims the govt kidnapped her
husband. Do a Google search of her if you want an offbeat read.

Hate to break it to you Greg, but your posts are often just as 'offbeat' as
Sanity-challenged Schwartz's

Post by Greg Carr
On 23 May 2005 10:23:10 -0700, "Barbara Schwarz"

Post by a***@gmail.com
Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sullivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

You are the lying freak cyber stalker, Robert Griffin of Queensland,
Australia.

Post by a***@gmail.com
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same treatment
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

You lose, kook Griffin.
Vera (Vera Six) and also Doug Wiser, you should read this. Robert
Griffin wants Patrick isolated and that we should turn out backs on
him. Isn't that typically Griffin?
I wonder if he does to his friends what lies about Patrick.
Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-23 21:36:27 UTC

Post by Greg Carr
Into the kill file. This loser actually claims the govt kidnapped her
husband. Do a Google search of her if you want an offbeat read.

I did not, Greg Carr your libeler.

Barbara Schwarz

Post by Greg Carr
On 23 May 2005 10:23:10 -0700, "Barbara Schwarz"

Post by a***@gmail.com
Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sullivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

You are the lying freak cyber stalker, Robert Griffin of Queensland,
Australia.

Post by a***@gmail.com
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same

treatment

Post by Greg Carr

Post by a***@gmail.com
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

You lose, kook Griffin.
Vera (Vera Six) and also Doug Wiser, you should read this. Robert
Griffin wants Patrick isolated and that we should turn out backs on
him. Isn't that typically Griffin?
I wonder if he does to his friends what lies about Patrick.
Barbara Schwarz

n***@myway.com

2005-05-23 20:56:46 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sullivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

You are the lying freak cyber stalker, Robert Griffin of Queensland,
Australia.

Post by a***@gmail.com
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same

treatment

Post by a***@gmail.com
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

You lose, kook Griffin.

He always does.

Post by a***@gmail.com
Vera (Vera Six) and also Doug Wiser, you should read this. Robert
Griffin wants Patrick isolated and that we should turn out backs on
him. Isn't that typically Griffin?
I wonder if he does to his friends what lies about Patrick.
Barbara Schwarz

Thanks, Barbara. For about 3 years, Griffin relentlessly harassed Doug
W. on ASH almost on a daily basis. Griffin also harassed Doug's wife,
even though she has never posted here. Then he got bored with Doug and
went after others, like Cori, Lou, Sugar, Bill, Darth, even his ex-girl
friend. So now, his intended targets appear to be you and I.

Just a word of warning to all, if you intend to take issue with Robert
Griffin, be prepared to be stalked and have your personal info
published on Usenet and the Internet along with outright lies and libel
in your name. This scum, Griffin, will stoop to any low level to ruin
the lives of anyone who argues or disagrees with him. He will call the
police, FBI and even hire lawyers to do his bidding. He is scum,
nothing more, nothing less. Just scum.

Heywood Jablomi

2005-05-23 21:21:30 UTC

Post by n***@myway.com
Just a word of warning to all, if you intend to take issue with Robert
Griffin, be prepared to be stalked and have your personal info
published on Usenet and the Internet along with outright lies and libel
in your name. This scum, Griffin, will stoop to any low level to ruin
the lives of anyone who argues or disagrees with him. He will call the
police, FBI and even hire lawyers to do his bidding. He is scum,
nothing more, nothing less. Just scum.

You can dish it out but can't take it when the same treatment comes back to
you, eh fatfuck? Why would anyone believe that you didn't start the shit with
Griffin when you have been starting this shit with other people for the better
part of a decade?

Mari-Mac

2005-05-23 21:36:33 UTC

You can dish it out but can't take it when the same treatment comes back to
you, eh fatfuck?

Oh, hey, Jerry. How's it going? And what are you on about, now, Mr. "I
AM GOING TO BEAT YOU WITHIN AN INCH OF YOUR LIFE"?

Post by Heywood Jablomi
Why would anyone believe that you didn't start the shit with
Griffin when you have been starting this shit with other people for the better
part of a decade?

BS. Read the archives re. Griffin. This kook stalked and harassed
people for years on ASH. And your posting history is similar, along
with death threats, outing, harassment, threats of physical violence
and other such kookism.

You and Griffin can just go get a hotel room and shag each other. You
were both meant for each other.

And here is your USENET POSTING, your very own USENET MELTDOWN:

X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.68.86.113
Newsgroups: van.general
Subject: OPEN OFFER TO VAN.GENERAL FUCKERS
From: ***@spamr.org (The REAL Jeremy Tolsma!)
X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.9 (Released Version) (x86 32bit)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII
Lines: 31
Message-ID: <nvcLa.336035$***@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 08:39:47 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.71.223.146
X-Complaints-To: ***@shaw.ca
X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1056789587 24.71.223.146 (Sat, 28 Jun
2003 02:39:47 MDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 02:39:47 MDT
Organization: Shaw Residential Internet

Hello all! You may know me by my many names I've posted here but
undoubtably
you've seen the various freaks engage in 'Jeremy Tolsma Syndrome' which

basically involves finding out my name is Jeremy Tolsma and then going
on and
on about it like it really fucking matters. Anyway, I really need to
blow off
some steam in real life and I would really like to beat the shit out of

somebody. NO JOKE. I'm Jeremy tolsma, thats my real name, and I want
to beat
the fuck out of anyone. I'm talking put you in the hospital. You can
also try
to do this to me, in fact I recommend you try to do it to me before I
do it to
you. THIS IS A SERIOUS OFFER. If you've ever been miffed about what
I've
posted, this is your chance. In fact, if you think you know what I
look like
you can even do a drive by shooting if you're that psycho! I'm not of
course,
I'm just looking to give a consensual beating to any jackass dumb
enough to
take me up on this offer.

One thing though, if nobody takes me up on this SERIOUS OFFER, I expect
no more
cowardly pathetic attempts to intimidate me, Jeremy Tolsma, with my
real name.
This also includes drunken parodies from retards like FatPat.
Basically
either come get your ass kicked or stop mentioning my name. Fair
enough? I
think so. That's Hemlock & Broadway, you name the day and time.

Note to all normal people on van.general: I really apologize for this
but I
feel that these morons will continue to ruin this newsgroup and using
my name
to do it if I don't at least TRY to make an example out of one of them.
Its
the least I can do, although in my many years of experience with flame
wars
transfering to real life, its very unlikely anyone will show up.

And remember, do not show up unless you are ready to fight. If you
want to be
a spectator, be sure to stand back at a fair distance. The beating
will occur
in patio area in front of the store.

Heywood Jablomi

2005-05-23 23:03:03 UTC

Post by Mari-Mac
One thing though, if nobody takes me up on this SERIOUS OFFER, I expect
no more
cowardly pathetic attempts to intimidate me, Jeremy Tolsma, with my
real name.
This also includes drunken parodies from retards like FatPat.

well I certainly knew when I posted that that expecting you to stop your
criminal harassment of me was wishful thinking, and that you will never stop
until you are physically forced to. That's what the post was all about, and
since you've collected it you obviously read it and understand it, at least as
much as you're capable of understanding anything. (note: I don't believe in
going easy on the mentally ill just because their actions are a result of
mental illness).

So yes, you continue to survive and harass people on usenet because you have
not yet received the beating you had no intention of receiving when you
originally agreed to it. I don't expect you to stop harassing me or
any of the dozens of others you've decided to harass, until you receive a
beating from me or somebody else. I don't expect anyone else to do the
beating, and I'm not in any rush to get it done, so carry on with your
miserable usenet life, and keep harassing me as much as you want to, it makes
no difference to me. Eventually I will make you pay for everything you've done
to me, but you won't know when or where that will happen.

Soho's Neon Glow

2005-05-24 13:34:06 UTC

well I certainly knew when I posted that that expecting you to stop your
criminal harassment of me was wishful thinking, and that you will never stop
until you are physically forced to. That's what the post was all about, and
since you've collected it you obviously read it and understand it, at least as
much as you're capable of understanding anything. (note: I don't believe in
going easy on the mentally ill just because their actions are a result of
mental illness).
So yes, you continue to survive and harass people on usenet because you have
not yet received the beating you had no intention of receiving when you
originally agreed to it. I don't expect you to stop harassing me or
any of the dozens of others you've decided to harass, until you receive a
beating from me or somebody else. I don't expect anyone else to do the
beating, and I'm not in any rush to get it done, so carry on with your
miserable usenet life, and keep harassing me as much as you want to, it makes
no difference to me. Eventually I will make you pay for everything you've done
to me, but you won't know when or where that will happen.

You know, Jeremy Tolsma, there is nothing more than I would like to do
to you than to show you just what a wimp and a coward you are. So
please do come to see me at your convenience, you drug addicted, lying,
ugly, lousy musician, brain dead, crystal meth and crack cocaine,
brittle-boned, sedentary, useless stoopid loser.

Just come to see me when ever you like :D

This your link?
http://www.sonic-boom.com/review/31337-1.html

Larry T.

2005-05-24 13:46:27 UTC

The BOBO Award?

Who's getting it?
--
http://mysite.verizon.net/respu7h5/
© 2005 Lawrence Toomajan

Post by Mari-Mac
One thing though, if nobody takes me up on this SERIOUS OFFER, I

expect

Post by Mari-Mac
no more
cowardly pathetic attempts to intimidate me, Jeremy Tolsma, with my
real name.
This also includes drunken parodies from retards like FatPat.

well I certainly knew when I posted that that expecting you to stop

your

Post by Heywood Jablomi
criminal harassment of me was wishful thinking, and that you will

never stop

Post by Heywood Jablomi
until you are physically forced to. That's what the post was all

about, and

Post by Heywood Jablomi
since you've collected it you obviously read it and understand it, at

least as

Post by Heywood Jablomi
much as you're capable of understanding anything. (note: I don't

believe in

Post by Heywood Jablomi
going easy on the mentally ill just because their actions are a

result of

Post by Heywood Jablomi
mental illness).
So yes, you continue to survive and harass people on usenet because

you have

Post by Heywood Jablomi
not yet received the beating you had no intention of receiving when

you

Post by Heywood Jablomi
originally agreed to it. I don't expect you to stop harassing me or
any of the dozens of others you've decided to harass, until you

receive a

Post by Heywood Jablomi
beating from me or somebody else. I don't expect anyone else to do

the

Post by Heywood Jablomi
beating, and I'm not in any rush to get it done, so carry on with

your

Post by Heywood Jablomi
miserable usenet life, and keep harassing me as much as you want to,

it makes

Post by Heywood Jablomi
no difference to me. Eventually I will make you pay for everything

you've done

Post by Heywood Jablomi
to me, but you won't know when or where that will happen.

You know, Jeremy Tolsma, there is nothing more than I would like to do
to you than to show you just what a wimp and a coward you are. So
please do come to see me at your convenience, you drug addicted, lying,
ugly, lousy musician, brain dead, crystal meth and crack cocaine,
brittle-boned, sedentary, useless stoopid loser.
Just come to see me when ever you like :D
This your link?
http://www.sonic-boom.com/review/31337-1.html

Heywood Jablomi

2005-05-24 17:46:55 UTC

Post by Mari-Mac
One thing though, if nobody takes me up on this SERIOUS OFFER, I

expect

Post by Mari-Mac
no more
cowardly pathetic attempts to intimidate me, Jeremy Tolsma, with my
real name.
This also includes drunken parodies from retards like FatPat.

well I certainly knew when I posted that that expecting you to stop

your

Post by Heywood Jablomi
criminal harassment of me was wishful thinking, and that you will

never stop

Post by Heywood Jablomi
until you are physically forced to. That's what the post was all

about, and

Post by Heywood Jablomi
since you've collected it you obviously read it and understand it, at

least as

Post by Heywood Jablomi
much as you're capable of understanding anything. (note: I don't

believe in

Post by Heywood Jablomi
going easy on the mentally ill just because their actions are a

result of

Post by Heywood Jablomi
mental illness).
So yes, you continue to survive and harass people on usenet because

you have

Post by Heywood Jablomi
not yet received the beating you had no intention of receiving when

you

Post by Heywood Jablomi
originally agreed to it. I don't expect you to stop harassing me or
any of the dozens of others you've decided to harass, until you

receive a

Post by Heywood Jablomi
beating from me or somebody else. I don't expect anyone else to do

the

Post by Heywood Jablomi
beating, and I'm not in any rush to get it done, so carry on with

your

Post by Heywood Jablomi
miserable usenet life, and keep harassing me as much as you want to,

it makes

Post by Heywood Jablomi
no difference to me. Eventually I will make you pay for everything

you've done

Post by Heywood Jablomi
to me, but you won't know when or where that will happen.

You know, Jeremy Tolsma, there is nothing more than I would like to do
to you than to show you just what a wimp and a coward you are. So
please do come to see me at your convenience, you drug addicted, lying,
ugly, lousy musician, brain dead, crystal meth and crack cocaine,
brittle-boned, sedentary, useless stoopid loser.
Just come to see me when ever you like :D
This your link?
http://www.sonic-boom.com/review/31337-1.html

No that isn't "my link". Are you so fucking stupid that you can't read? Yes,
you are.

brittle-boned? oh dear

Heywood Jablomi

2005-05-25 03:54:28 UTC

Post by Soho's Neon Glow
This your link?
http://www.sonic-boom.com/review/31337-1.html

anyone who isn't brain damaged can see that link contains a review of a tape I
released ten years ago. It was a minor underground hit in Massachussettes,
getting airplay on three stations in that state in the summer of 1995.
Probably my most successful recording to date. But it's long out of print now.
I suppose it makes you giddy to know you've been harassing someone capable of
impressive accomplishments..

corinne

2005-05-25 04:49:27 UTC

Post by Soho's Neon Glow
This your link?
http://www.sonic-boom.com/review/31337-1.html

Anonymous

2005-05-29 16:41:23 UTC

Post by Heywood Jablomi
any of the dozens of others you've decided to harass, until you receive a
beating from me or somebody else. .....

Heywood, post his address. I will beat him up good!

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-24 00:00:33 UTC

Post by Heywood Jablomi
You can dish it out but can't take it when the same treatment comes back to
you, eh fatfuck?

Damned right!

Post by Heywood Jablomi
Why would anyone believe that you didn't start the shit with
Griffin when you have been starting this shit with other people for the better
part of a decade?

Bingo! How true!

Sounds like you'd had a PMS experience too?

Mari-Mac

2005-05-24 18:59:21 UTC

Post by Heywood Jablomi
You can dish it out but can't take it when the same treatment comes

back to

Post by Heywood Jablomi
you, eh fatfuck?

Damned right!

Post by Heywood Jablomi
Why would anyone believe that you didn't start the shit with
Griffin when you have been starting this shit with other people for

the better

Post by Heywood Jablomi
part of a decade?

Bingo! How true!

Hey! Waddit ya win?! Oh, I know, look below!

Sounds like you'd had a PMS experience too?

Seems to me, many of us had *your* experience, you short, fat little
twerp. How's about this:

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=murderer&enc_author=21ysdhYAAACQDY0e1TEZmgvv2WNC3YGSo4cocwWvDVg2RHsu8f1bCg

Do you take ownership of you ***@hotmail.com nym and addy,
Robert Griffin of Queensland, Australia?

And what about this, Robert Griffin? :

"I needed to vent; i couldn't; i was worried about [x] and our
relationship; so, Anonymous Coredump was born. I needed an outlet to
focus my own insecurities and aggression upon.Yes; that was me; the sum
focus of all my hate and fears and insecuries and self-doubt focussed
upon Doug, the popular enemy."

Man, you are one-twisted k00k!

Tell this to the judge, kooksuit boi...

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-23 21:38:40 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sullivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

You are the lying freak cyber stalker, Robert Griffin of

Queensland,

Post by a***@gmail.com
Australia.

Post by a***@gmail.com
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same

treatment

Post by a***@gmail.com
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

You lose, kook Griffin.

He always does.

And he did of course not reveal anything to my ISP or my library about
that. I also think that he kept that secret from his attorney Daniel
Burnett in Canada.

Post by a***@gmail.com
Just a word of warning to all, if you intend to take issue with Robert
Griffin, be prepared to be stalked and have your personal info
published on Usenet and the Internet along with outright lies and libel
in your name. This scum, Griffin, will stoop to any low level to ruin
the lives of anyone who argues or disagrees with him. He will call the
police, FBI and even hire lawyers to do his bidding. He is scum,
nothing more, nothing less. Just scum.

Thanks, he is a harassing kook. Wonder what job he has.

Barbara Schwarz

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-23 23:46:28 UTC

Patrick <Michael Sullivan, obessed liar and cyber stalker, spams out

Post by n***@myway.com
Thanks, Barbara. For about 3 years, Griffin relentlessly harassed Doug
W. on ASH almost on a daily basis.

Does the cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan mean Douglas Wiser, who
posted that he had to help a mentlly named man named little_chris to
die?

That Douglas Wiser?

The same Douglas Wiser that emailed what it thought was Kevin S.
Wilson's employer?

Post by n***@myway.com
Griffin also harassed Doug's wife,
even though she has never posted here. Then he got bored with Doug and
went after others, like Cori, Lou, Sugar, Bill, Darth, even his ex-girl
friend. So now, his intended targets appear to be you and I.

What a load of utter crap. The cyber stalking liar Patrick Michael
Sullivan and it's cyber thug pals never tire of attempting to play
victim...

Oh dear; the delusional liar, Patrick Michael Sullivan, is projecting
what it does, and accusing me of exactly what it has done itself.

Let's see the frothing kook Patrick Michael Sullivan explaining the
above to the court....

~ vera ~

2005-05-23 23:34:41 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael
Sullivan of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

You are the lying freak cyber stalker, Robert Griffin of Queensland,
Australia.

Post by a***@gmail.com
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same treatment
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

You lose, kook Griffin.
Vera (Vera Six) and also Doug Wiser, you should read this. Robert
Griffin wants Patrick isolated and that we should turn out backs on
him. Isn't that typically Griffin?
I wonder if he does to his friends what lies about Patrick.
Barbara Schwarz

I have read that, Barbara.

If he really plans what you say, he will not succeed with regard to my
person, don't worry. Patrick is my friend, and he will always be.

I would like to find out why Robert Griffin wants to hurt him as much as he
does. I think it is the desire to hurt himself, and so he transfers his
problem onto others, and tries to hurt them as much as he can to destroy the
good things he can see around him. Weird, I am sure I have never done
anything that might have hurt him, and yet...

Maybe we can all calm down a little and try to talk about it all like
adults?

What are Robert Griffin's aims? Maybe he can tell them to me himself?

Why does he hate Patrick and you - and me - so much? Well, maybe he hates
me, because he hates God? That would not be anything new, and rather normal.

================================================

Robert Griffin, can you tell me? Who are you?

What is the trouble between you and Patrick, Dough, Barbara, and what is
your trouble with me? If I have hurt you in the past, please forgive me. But
I do not remember ever having talked with you at all... Maybe you can help
me to recall? Or is it just a general feeling you have towards women? I have
not let you down so far, haven't I?

You can also write a private e-mail to me if you want to. But save me from
calling me names this time, please. And then let us try a civil talk and let
us start anew, okay?

And a question: Is it really true that you went to a lawyer because of a
usenet flamewar? You cannot be serious, can you? By the way, I do not think
that you really are the bad person that you are pretending to be. It is just
the shell you are showing, but your are hyper-vulnurable. Am I right? Please
correct me if I am wrong.

~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ~
~ http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Growing-Deeper ~
~ http://www.e-sword.net ~

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-23 23:50:05 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael
Sullivan of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.

You are the lying freak cyber stalker, Robert Griffin of

Queensland,

Post by Barbara Schwarz
Australia.

Post by a***@gmail.com
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same

treatment

Post by a***@gmail.com
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

You lose, kook Griffin.
Vera (Vera Six) and also Doug Wiser, you should read this. Robert
Griffin wants Patrick isolated and that we should turn out backs on
him. Isn't that typically Griffin?
I wonder if he does to his friends what lies about Patrick.
Barbara Schwarz

I think Griffin is obsessed with Patrick and as we are his friends, he
also defames us and comes after comes

Post by ~ vera ~
Maybe we can all calm down a little and try to talk about it all like
adults?
What are Robert Griffin's aims? Maybe he can tell them to me himself?
Why does he hate Patrick and you - and me - so much? Well, maybe he hates
me, because he hates God? That would not be anything new, and rather normal.

I assume he blames God of what's not optimal in his life.

Post by ~ vera ~
================================================
Robert Griffin, can you tell me? Who are you?

Yes tell her, Bobby. Spit it out. ;)

Post by ~ vera ~
What is the trouble between you and Patrick, Dough, Barbara, and what is
your trouble with me? If I have hurt you in the past, please forgive me. But
I do not remember ever having talked with you at all... Maybe you can help
me to recall? Or is it just a general feeling you have towards women? I have
not let you down so far, haven't I?
You can also write a private e-mail to me if you want to. But save me from
calling me names this time, please. And then let us try a civil talk and let
us start anew, okay?
And a question: Is it really true that you went to a lawyer because of a
usenet flamewar? You cannot be serious, can you? By the way, I do not think
that you really are the bad person that you are pretending to be. It is just
the shell you are showing, but your are hyper-vulnurable. Am I right? Please
correct me if I am wrong.
~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ~
~ http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Growing-Deeper ~
~ http://www.e-sword.net ~

I would be surprised of you will get a decent answer to your nice
posting from Bob Griffin, Vera, but I will check the thread for any
response by him.

Barbara Schwarz

ID stealer Barbara Schwarz is afraid of imaginary Mark Rathbun's and Tom Cruise's attorney Nazi doctor Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-24 03:12:57 UTC

Bwahaha....

You're so funny and very stupid, Stink Whore Schwarz.

corinne

2005-05-23 17:29:52 UTC

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Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sullivan

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of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same treatment
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?
Criminal obsesso cyber stalker PARTRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN babbled and

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It must be happy hour in Australia, 'cos Robert Griffin is on a tear
again...
USENET KOOK AND STALKER ROBERT GRIFFIN OF QUEENSLAND AUSTRALIA

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EVER A MORON in 2005, i.e. one of the 80+ aliases of Patrick

Michael

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Sullivan (Nanaimo BC's obsessed cyber stalker and self-admitted
convicted criminal who admitted going to prison for car and boat

theft)

NANAE is full of off topic posts and silly little
squabbles.

Like Patrick Michael Sullivan's little spat with Cori Wasserman

that

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the Patrick Michael Sullivan uber kook dragged in NANAE?

So what. Ask Cori how she feels about me. Real friends can fight and
then be friends again. That is something you are not capable of,
Robert, because you are sick minded, aren't you?

Look at Russell Miller and his c&p's to AUK. And look at
Viper's latest postings on NANAE that are off topic and just

plain

childish and stoopid.

Haha. The (crack)pot calls the kettle black!

In my opinion, you are drunk and out of your mind, again. How much

have

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you had to drink tonight, Robert?

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How about we look at Patrick Michael Sullivan's own pathetic whine
below about Cori Wasserman on NANAE, that the cowardly stalking

kook

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later nuked?

Cori and I are friends. Now deal with it. But lay off the booze. You
cannot handle your ale, so I have heard from another ASHer.

news.admin.net-abuse.email:2884444

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communication with me via email. Yet this user continues to do so.

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Shut the F Up the person you are argueing with will not

listen

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to

reason.
Best we both forget him it's better for both our healths to do

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I

think and I think you do also.

It's best that the both of you quit publishing lies and posting
outright BS about people on this NG, right?

An assumtion is nothing more than a curiousity.

Ed claims he wants peace and not to communicate with me or about

this

situation. So do you. However, you both continue to come

forward

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and

create silly little postings for the sole purpose of HARASSMENT

and

pathetic attempts at ATTENTION SEEKING.

Ed suffers more than you can imagine. You come up with wierd Trolly
post weather we talk or not and you lie about me all the time. You

have

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gone over the edge.

Last night, Edward made the claim that my hundreds of telephone

calls

to you were now just harassment. When it was you who would

telephone

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me

sometimes 3 or more times per day asking me to call you back to

save

you the phone bill, because you could not afford the cell phone

bill.

And I did just that. I called you when you wanted me to and now

for

some reason, Edward has turned these friendship and support

telephone

calls into his own little game and labels it as being abusive.

Sick...
Ed said blah blah so what??? I never made those claims.

And reason? How do you or Ed expect to ever reason with another

person

when you are both spewing packs of lies around Usenet? You

cannot,

Cori.

No body lied they only told the truth as they saw it.

Ed stated he wanted peace. Well Ed first needs to quit posting

lies

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and

harassing other people on this NG. Ed's been caught BIG TIME in

his

lies in the past, especially when he communicated about Martha

behind

her back, then got caught and DENIED it all. Talk about

betrayal

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and

lies.

Martha is back on the board.

And that, "miss spelling" is the person you have now chosen to

call

your friend. And he is a liar of the highest order.

Congratulations...
Yes a man who calls me as soon as I get out ogf the hospital

because

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is concerned about my condition . You act like you know nothing

what

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about T he is like your best friend and he suffer the same fate me

and

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ED do. I don't know why I bother not like you care is it???? Just

want

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another flame fight I will pray for you tonight that you become you
again even if we never speak again . I still wish Patrick was

Patrick.

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BYE
Cori
______________________________________________
Nice how it stab it's "friends" in the back, hmmm?
We can but wonder when it's Banana Squirtz's turn to get knifed in

the

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back by this two faced coward.
Awww... what's Paddy gonna do? Put it's retarded "curse" on me,

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the snivelling, lying, gutless kooked out coward it is?
Put up one of it's retarded web pages that barely last 24 hours

before

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being slammed down (with the IPs being logged and recorded each

time

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of

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who established the sites)?
Gee, I expect the cyber stalking freak is going to have to

explain

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the

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origin of the previously unpublished photographs the freak has

obtained

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and published without permission...
The freak is also going to have to explain why it ignored the RCMP
advice given to it, which was basically to leave me the fuck

alone...

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from months before the cyber stalking freak obtained thise

photos...

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Or is the spineless freak just going to spam out the same stupid

lies

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it has for the last 3 years, thus adding to the already huge body

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evidence of relentless cyber stalking that will be used to fry the
freak come Court Time, while the cowardly freak mistakenly

believes

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it

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is "safe" by hiding behind aioe.org to spam it's crap under the

"Baby

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Bro" handle... and being retarded enough to believe that it's

Uniserve

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=btk451h8mhqrislk59d09v6l1eh8v3556p%404ax.com

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- losing many internet accounts for sending death threats,

spamming,

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and other internet abuse
- being questioned by the RCMP in relation to his internet

activities

gullible

mislead

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technically unaware posters of its identity ... then later lying

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try to cover that fact up
- taunting depressed and suicidal posters with false and

fraudulent

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accusations and manufacturing evidence to back up those false
accusations
- attempting to use the media to embarress and shame it's enemies
- stalking genuinely suicidal people and any opposition to it and

it's

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fellow kooks
- betraying it's "friends" at random... often by complaining to

their

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providers and whining on news.admin.net-abuse.* newsgroups about

posts

posters

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to reveal personal info pertaining to the kook's "enemies", in

order

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to aid the kook's stalking and real-lifing,
- challenging posters in Canadian newsgroups to fist-fights and

then

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failing to appear itself, yet the kook has the temerity to brand
others "physical cowards"
- impersonating others in it's posts
- attempting to intimidate attorneys and Officers Of The Court with
common assault in order to drop the civil case pending against the
kook
...amongst many years of many other sleazy, deceptive acts on it's
part, all of which it now has to answer for... in a civil case

listed

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as S42823 in the Nanaimo Registry of the Supreme Court
of British Columbia.
It is this writer's opinion that Patrick Michael Sullivan of

Nanaimo

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BC, Canada, is a stalking, lying, obsessed, dangerous kook.
Let's hope the Court slaps this kook down good and hard in this

coming

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court case, before it moves from it's full-time cyber stalking into
full-time real-world stalking.. and becomes a greater danger to
others.

---------
Subject:Scientists create animals that are part-human -
and they need to be put to sleep.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252/

~ vera ~

2005-05-24 01:02:11 UTC

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Haha. The two faced lying freak cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan
of Nanaimo admits to stabbing it's friends in the back.
How long before Banana Squitrz and Vera Sicks cop the same treatment
from the Sullivan uber kook?
Any bets?

So tell me, what is wrong? Can I help you solve your problems?

Listen, I want something from you that would take a real man. I doubt if you
can do it, though it would be nothing impossible. I really doubt you are
able enough. Wanna bet? Wanna know what?

I will tell you what I mean...

Make peace.

If you need my help for that, let me know.

Can you make peace? Can you?

Take one step, and then the next. The first step is the most difficult one,
it will be easier after that.

I could bet that you cannot get over yourself and let go and try to repair
the damage you have done... You did it to yourself, right? This damage is
around you. You are living in a broken world.

I promise I will help you to make peace with the others if you make the
first step.

Coward or hero - we will see. Heros repair what they have broken, and stand
behind it.

By the way, you can find my address and phone number in the impressum on my
website - so you do not have to order someone to find out. If you need any
more personal data about me, just ask me.

~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-23 17:08:28 UTC

This posting is by Robert Griffin who can't handle the free speech of
others opposed to his and bullies them from the net.
He published over and over a prison or jail number for Patrick, and I
read info by an insider of the Canadian correctional system that such a
number does not exist.

NANAE is full of off topic posts and silly little
squabbles.

Like Patrick Michael Sullivan's little spat with Cori Wasserman that
the Patrick Michael Sullivan uber kook dragged in NANAE?

I only saw a posting by Robert Griffin from Australia, Queensland, in
which he wrongfully abused me of harassment, only because I sent
attorney Dan Burnett in Canada four polite e-mails. Griffin wants to
kill free speech.

Look at Russell Miller and his c&p's to AUK. And look at
Viper's latest postings on NANAE that are off topic and just plain
childish and stoopid.

Haha. The (crack)pot calls the kettle black!

Correct, Russell Miller defamed in his signature files over and over
again and hypocrites think that I have no right to defend myself
against that.

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How about we look at Patrick Michael Sullivan's own pathetic whine
below about Cori Wasserman on NANAE, that the cowardly stalking kook
later nuked?

I have evidence that Robert Griffin is the stalker. That man should get
a job instead of harassing others with false complaints or in postings.
Cori Wasserman e-mailed me too that Robert Griffin tortured her, and I
believe that this is true as I saw the evidence also elsewhere and he
also tries it with me.

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We can but wonder when it's Banana Squirtz's turn to get knifed in the
back by this two faced coward.

Is that me? Banana Squitz? :) Are you telling me that Patrick will stab
me in my back? :) Forget about it, Bobby. You attacked me out of the
blue, remember? You saw that Patrick and I exchanged friendly postings,
and you came after me with a long defamatory posting and amonst other
false lines, you lied that I would deny knowing him. You make yourself
enemies and then you lie to their ISP's about them and file false
complaints.

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Awww... what's Paddy gonna do? Put it's retarded "curse" on me, like
the snivelling, lying, gutless kooked out coward it is?

Curse? :)

The people in Queensland are quite superficial or is it just Bobby
Griffith? You sent my posted defense against cyber criminal Garry
Scarff (who is investigated by the LAPD) so often to my library and my
ISP that you position yourself with that criminal man. You are stupid
by labeling my defense a harassment, Mister. You are being considered a
kook and a pain in the neck. Do you really think that those who receive
your complaints can't google and see what a cyber stalker Scarff is? Do
you really think that they can't read on the
www.religiousfreedomwatch.org the documents that support the claims
against the people who you defend? Did you ever test your IQ, Robert?
How low did that turn out?

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Put up one of it's retarded web pages that barely last 24 hours before
being slammed down (with the IPs being logged and recorded each time of
who established the sites)?
Gee, I expect the cyber stalking freak is going to have to explain the
origin of the previously unpublished photographs the freak has

obtained

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and published without permission...

You harassed the library and my ISP with over and over e-mailing to
them false complaints about me. You are the cyber stalking and
harassing spam freak, Robert.

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The freak is also going to have to explain why it ignored the RCMP
advice given to it, which was basically to leave me the fuck alone...
from months before the cyber stalking freak obtained thise photos...

I think the Queensland Police should take care of you, pro suicider
Robert Griffin. The Australian legislature came out with interesting
legistlation, right?

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- losing many internet accounts for sending death threats, spamming,
and other internet abuse

You spammed and harassed his ISP like a lunatic just as you also did
with me, Robert.

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- being questioned by the RCMP in relation to his internet activities
and being told by them to stop it's inappropriate behavior

Really? Prove it. Post the letter.

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- making false accusations of others being under investigation by
authorities, when no such investigations are taking place, nor were
ever initiated

I saw that you make lots of false accusations about me on the net and
in your false complaints about me. I bet you also filed false reports
to my police department and they ignored you too.

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- posting fictional sob stories on support groups to mislead gullible
posters unaware of the kook's history, into giving it sympathy

Wonder if you are doing that.

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- hiding behind multiple sockpuppet accounts and proxies and
pretending to be totally different people to intentionally mislead
technically unaware posters of its identity ... then later lying to
try to cover that fact up

Remember your sock puppet Magnus Pym, Robert? And this posting is also
posted with a sock puppets. I also strongly assume that you are
"Suicides" and a number of other puppets and identities.

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- taunting depressed and suicidal posters with false and fraudulent
accusations and manufacturing evidence to back up those false
accusations

Did you not tell Cori that you want her to help her to slit her throat?
Did you not try to become the moderator for a "Pro-choice" suicide
group, Robert Griffin? Wonder what fine you have to pay and if you have
to go to prison after the legislation is so very much against pro
suicide activities on the net.

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- attempting to use the media to embarress and shame it's enemies

You really hate Patrick for the media series in UK and that Tony Blair
said he will do something against suicide pedlars, don't you? I bet you
blame the Australian press against suicides also on him.

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- stalking genuinely suicidal people and any opposition to it and it's
fellow kooks

I saw the evidence in a file I saw last Thursday that you are a
stalker.
Patrick does not like when suicidal people are preyed on, and so do I.
You should not throw with stones by sitting in a house of glass, Bobby.

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- betraying it's "friends" at random... often by complaining to their
providers and whining on news.admin.net-abuse.* newsgroups about posts
expressing different opinons to the kook's own, and whining
about it's former "friends" emailing it

Really? :) I am friends with Patrick since quite a while. I can't
confirm anything you wrote here.

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- teaming up with known Xtian extremists, script kiddies, and
$cientologists to stalk depressed and suicidal people in the real
world

What a liar you are. You hate people who post against suicide pedlars,
people who prey on the depressed to go through with suicide. You are
also a very good friend of Karin Spaink, a copyright anarchist, and I
saw a posting in which you offered to copy the stolen copyrights on
your own website. Karin is known to me a member of the kook "church"
Church of Euthanasia, who has appalling goals. Wonder if Bob Griffin is
also a member in there.

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- blackmailing and threatening suicidal and depressed people

Again, do not throw with stones, Bob.

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- sending threatening email to depressed and suicidal female posters
to reveal personal info pertaining to the kook's "enemies", in order
to aid the kook's stalking and real-lifing,

I don't see any evidence, only your false claims. You made also so much
up about me, why should anybody believe you? It fits more in your
character than Patrick's.

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- challenging posters in Canadian newsgroups to fist-fights and then
failing to appear itself, yet the kook has the temerity to brand
others "physical cowards"

You post his home address but conceal yours, right?

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- impersonating others in it's posts
- attempting to intimidate attorneys and Officers Of The Court with
common assault in order to drop the civil case pending against the
kook

You are a liar, Bob Griffin. You filed a kook case against him, trying
to intimidate him. You want him to leave Usenet (as you also want me to
leave) because you hate that we don't like and post against suicide
encouragers. That is what you are really upset about. You have a
horrible character. All what Patrick did was defending himself against
you.

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...amongst many years of many other sleazy, deceptive acts on it's
part, all of which it now has to answer for... in a civil case listed
as S42823 in the Nanaimo Registry of the Supreme Court
of British Columbia.

And he documented your activities well. One law firm already quit the
case and did not longer want to represent you, right, Robert? What is
with the other law firm, attorney Dan Burnett? The case is pending
since a half a year without that any judge wanted to hear it. How come
that Dan Burnett does not file papers to move the case forward? Did he
quit too? I read your complaint. You have no case. The merits of the
case are a joke, esp. because you are a lot worse than what you made up
against Patrick.

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It is this writer's opinion that Patrick Michael Sullivan of Nanaimo
BC, Canada, is a stalking, lying, obsessed, dangerous kook.

That is not Patrick.
Hey, that is my opinion about you, Robert Griffin.

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Let's hope the Court slaps this kook down good and hard in this coming
court case, before it moves from it's full-time cyber stalking into
full-time real-world stalking.. and becomes a greater danger to
others.

The court ignores your case, you kook. Attorneys quit your case, you
kook. And if you should get the case moving and against the laws should
win, Robert, we, the people who you defamed, lied about, harassed,
stalked and filed false complaints against, can use that in other court
of laws against you, because you are so much worse than what you accuse
Patrick on. I will provide Patrick with affidavits and evidence as to
how you defamed and attacked me suddenly in Usenet, how you spammed and
harassed my library and my ISP in order to deny my freedom of speech.
He may use it in that kook case of yours. :)

Again, Robert. I had no idea who you are before you libeled me in
Usenet. You are picking fights with people.

If I can give you an advice, Robert Griffin of Queensland Australia.
Get a life and leave others be.

Barbara Schwarz

corinne

2005-05-23 17:14:30 UTC

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EVER A MORON in 2005, i.e. one of the 80+ aliases of Patrick

Michael

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Sullivan (Nanaimo BC's obsessed cyber stalker and self-admitted
convicted criminal who admitted going to prison for car and boat

theft)
This posting is by Robert Griffin who can't handle the free speech of
others opposed to his and bullies them from the net.
He published over and over a prison or jail number for Patrick, and I
read info by an insider of the Canadian correctional system that such a
number does not exist.

NANAE is full of off topic posts and silly little
squabbles.

Like Patrick Michael Sullivan's little spat with Cori Wasserman that
the Patrick Michael Sullivan uber kook dragged in NANAE?

Look at Russell Miller and his c&p's to AUK. And look at
Viper's latest postings on NANAE that are off topic and just plain
childish and stoopid.

Haha. The (crack)pot calls the kettle black!

Correct, Russell Miller defamed in his signature files over and over
again and hypocrites think that I have no right to defend myself
against that.

Post by a***@gmail.com
How about we look at Patrick Michael Sullivan's own pathetic whine
below about Cori Wasserman on NANAE, that the cowardly stalking kook
later nuked?

I have evidence that Robert Griffin is the stalker. That man should get
a job instead of harassing others with false complaints or in

postings.

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Cori Wasserman e-mailed me too that Robert Griffin tortured her, and I
believe that this is true as I saw the evidence also elsewhere and he
also tries it with me.

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We can but wonder when it's Banana Squirtz's turn to get knifed in

the

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back by this two faced coward.

postings,

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and you came after me with a long defamatory posting and amonst other
false lines, you lied that I would deny knowing him. You make

yourself

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enemies and then you lie to their ISP's about them and file false
complaints.

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Awww... what's Paddy gonna do? Put it's retarded "curse" on me, like
the snivelling, lying, gutless kooked out coward it is?

Curse? :)
The people in Queensland are quite superficial or is it just Bobby
Griffith? You sent my posted defense against cyber criminal Garry
Scarff (who is investigated by the LAPD) so often to my library and my
ISP that you position yourself with that criminal man. You are stupid
by labeling my defense a harassment, Mister. You are being considered a
kook and a pain in the neck. Do you really think that those who receive
your complaints can't google and see what a cyber stalker Scarff is? Do
you really think that they can't read on the
www.religiousfreedomwatch.org the documents that support the claims
against the people who you defend? Did you ever test your IQ, Robert?
How low did that turn out?

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Put up one of it's retarded web pages that barely last 24 hours

before

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being slammed down (with the IPs being logged and recorded each

time

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of

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who established the sites)?
Gee, I expect the cyber stalking freak is going to have to explain

the

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origin of the previously unpublished photographs the freak has

obtained

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and published without permission...

You harassed the library and my ISP with over and over e-mailing to
them false complaints about me. You are the cyber stalking and
harassing spam freak, Robert.

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The freak is also going to have to explain why it ignored the RCMP
advice given to it, which was basically to leave me the fuck

alone...

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from months before the cyber stalking freak obtained thise

photos...

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I think the Queensland Police should take care of you, pro suicider
Robert Griffin. The Australian legislature came out with interesting
legistlation, right?

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- losing many internet accounts for sending death threats,

spamming,

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and other internet abuse

You spammed and harassed his ISP like a lunatic just as you also did
with me, Robert.

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- being questioned by the RCMP in relation to his internet

activities

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and being told by them to stop it's inappropriate behavior

Really? Prove it. Post the letter.

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- making false accusations of others being under investigation by
authorities, when no such investigations are taking place, nor were
ever initiated

I saw that you make lots of false accusations about me on the net and
in your false complaints about me. I bet you also filed false reports
to my police department and they ignored you too.

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- posting fictional sob stories on support groups to mislead

gullible

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posters unaware of the kook's history, into giving it sympathy

Wonder if you are doing that.

Remember your sock puppet Magnus Pym, Robert? And this posting is also
posted with a sock puppets. I also strongly assume that you are
"Suicides" and a number of other puppets and identities.

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- taunting depressed and suicidal posters with false and fraudulent
accusations and manufacturing evidence to back up those false
accusations

Post by a***@gmail.com
- attempting to use the media to embarress and shame it's enemies

You really hate Patrick for the media series in UK and that Tony Blair
said he will do something against suicide pedlars, don't you? I bet you
blame the Australian press against suicides also on him.

Post by a***@gmail.com
- stalking genuinely suicidal people and any opposition to it and

it's

Post by a***@gmail.com
fellow kooks

Post by a***@gmail.com
- betraying it's "friends" at random... often by complaining to their
providers and whining on news.admin.net-abuse.* newsgroups about

posts

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expressing different opinons to the kook's own, and whining
about it's former "friends" emailing it

Really? :) I am friends with Patrick since quite a while. I can't
confirm anything you wrote here.

Post by a***@gmail.com
- teaming up with known Xtian extremists, script kiddies, and
$cientologists to stalk depressed and suicidal people in the real
world

What a liar you are. You hate people who post against suicide

pedlars,

Post by a***@gmail.com
people who prey on the depressed to go through with suicide. You are
also a very good friend of Karin Spaink, a copyright anarchist, and I
saw a posting in which you offered to copy the stolen copyrights on
your own website. Karin is known to me a member of the kook "church"
Church of Euthanasia, who has appalling goals. Wonder if Bob Griffin is
also a member in there.

Post by a***@gmail.com
- blackmailing and threatening suicidal and depressed people

Again, do not throw with stones, Bob.

Post by a***@gmail.com
- sending threatening email to depressed and suicidal female

posters

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to reveal personal info pertaining to the kook's "enemies", in order
to aid the kook's stalking and real-lifing,

I don't see any evidence, only your false claims. You made also so much
up about me, why should anybody believe you? It fits more in your
character than Patrick's.

Post by a***@gmail.com
- challenging posters in Canadian newsgroups to fist-fights and then
failing to appear itself, yet the kook has the temerity to brand
others "physical cowards"

You post his home address but conceal yours, right?

against

Post by a***@gmail.com
you.

Post by a***@gmail.com
It is this writer's opinion that Patrick Michael Sullivan of

Nanaimo

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BC, Canada, is a stalking, lying, obsessed, dangerous kook.

That is not Patrick.
Hey, that is my opinion about you, Robert Griffin.

Post by a***@gmail.com
Let's hope the Court slaps this kook down good and hard in this

coming

Post by a***@gmail.com
court case, before it moves from it's full-time cyber stalking into
full-time real-world stalking.. and becomes a greater danger to
others.

The court ignores your case, you kook. Attorneys quit your case, you
kook. And if you should get the case moving and against the laws should
win, Robert, we, the people who you defamed, lied about, harassed,
stalked and filed false complaints against, can use that in other court
of laws against you, because you are so much worse than what you accuse
Patrick on. I will provide Patrick with affidavits and evidence as to
how you defamed and attacked me suddenly in Usenet, how you spammed and
harassed my library and my ISP in order to deny my freedom of speech.
He may use it in that kook case of yours. :)
Again, Robert. I had no idea who you are before you libeled me in
Usenet. You are picking fights with people.
If I can give you an advice, Robert Griffin of Queensland Australia.
Get a life and leave others be.
Barbara Schwarz

----------
Subject:Scientists create animals that are part-human -
and live on usenet.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252/

Mari-Mac

2005-05-23 17:37:37 UTC

Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Looks like Griffin has gone nuts in the head again and he is having a
bit of a kook meltdown. It's not the first time, mind you...

But please snail mail me the copies of the files you recieved from the
UEN and other agencies.

Also, I should maybe scan them and put them up on the web? Let me know.

And save all of Griffin's latest postings, with full headers, for the
UEN and SLCL. They need to see just what kind of crazy nut Griffin is.
His latest postings show us clearly that he is in some sort of
psychosis and emotional distress. He needs help, obviously.

Also, his posts will come in handy for any other filings.

Griffin needs to be committed to some institution for his own safety
and the safety of others, in my opinion.

corinne

2005-05-23 17:44:19 UTC

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.
Looks like Griffin has gone nuts in the head again and he is having a
bit of a kook meltdown. It's not the first time, mind you...
But please snail mail me the copies of the files you recieved from the
UEN and other agencies.
Also, I should maybe scan them and put them up on the web? Let me know.
And save all of Griffin's latest postings, with full headers, for the
UEN and SLCL. They need to see just what kind of crazy nut Griffin is.
His latest postings show us clearly that he is in some sort of
psychosis and emotional distress. He needs help, obviously.
Also, his posts will come in handy for any other filings.
Griffin needs to be committed to some institution for his own safety
and the safety of others, in my opinion.

----
Subject:Scientists create animals that are part-human -
and use usenet like their personal mail machine, obviously to
brain-dead to use their Own e-mail to vent their personal problems.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252/

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-23 17:58:45 UTC

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

You are welcome.

Post by Mari-Mac
Looks like Griffin has gone nuts in the head again and he is having a
bit of a kook meltdown. It's not the first time, mind you...

I know what you mean.

Post by Mari-Mac
But please snail mail me the copies of the files you recieved from the
UEN and other agencies.

I will.

Post by Mari-Mac
Also, I should maybe scan them and put them up on the web? Let me know.

Both is possible.

Post by Mari-Mac
And save all of Griffin's latest postings, with full headers, for the
UEN and SLCL. They need to see just what kind of crazy nut Griffin is.

No problem, can be all arranged.

Post by Mari-Mac
His latest postings show us clearly that he is in some sort of
psychosis and emotional distress. He needs help, obviously.

He needs to get a life and he needs to learn to respect that other
people also have a right for free speech.

Post by Mari-Mac
Also, his posts will come in handy for any other filings.

I agree.

Post by Mari-Mac
Griffin needs to be committed to some institution for his own safety
and the safety of others, in my opinion.

Psychs are bad, he would only become worse. I was thinking more of him
arrested, and making hard prison time in a labor camp. Bobby at the
chain gang...

Barbara Schwarz

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-23 23:57:17 UTC

Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber thug and

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sulivan
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?

Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

Post by Mari-Mac
Looks like Griffin has gone nuts in the head again and he is having a
bit of a kook meltdown. It's not the first time, mind you...

As we know, the cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan likes to taunt,
harass and cyber stalk people to the point of nervous breakdowns.

Post by Mari-Mac
But please snail mail me the copies of the files you recieved from the
UEN and other agencies.
Also, I should maybe scan them and put them up on the web? Let me know.

Oh? Please do. More rope.

Post by Mari-Mac
And save all of Griffin's latest postings, with full headers, for the
UEN and SLCL. They need to see just what kind of crazy nut Griffin is.
His latest postings show us clearly that he is in some sort of
psychosis and emotional distress. He needs help, obviously.

Oh? Can the cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan do psychoanalysis
via Usenet now?

Post by Mari-Mac
Also, his posts will come in handy for any other filings.
Griffin needs to be committed to some institution for his own safety
and the safety of others, in my opinion.

Since when does the opionion of a Nanaimo convicted car and boat their
count for anything?

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-24 00:08:59 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber thug and

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sulivan
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?
Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

All demafation and libel will be used legally against you, Griffin, as
I really have had with you defamator, spammer, libeler, harasser and
stalker.

Barbara Schwarz

DRKDOVE70

2005-05-24 00:17:55 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber thug

and

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sulivan
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?
Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

All demafation and libel will be used legally against you, Griffin, as
I really have had with you defamator, spammer, libeler, harasser and
stalker.
Barbara Schwarz

Use this if you want I think Pat hqas the back up one if nessary

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-
abuse.usenet/msg/9a7e0e87ebf01b12

I'll testify too, I'm not deserting the man who stoped me from cutting
,That right Patrick was the first person who ever gave a dam that while
me a former rape survior was off the deep over all these lies was
cuting herself to peices.
I'll Alway Love You Patrick
Cori Wasserman

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-24 00:54:19 UTC

Cori Wasserman, Patrick Michael Sullivan's willing accomplice in cyber
stalking and posting malicious and false libel, wants to get in on the

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber thug

and

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sulivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?
Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

All demafation and libel will be used legally against you, Griffin,

Post by Barbara Schwarz
I really have had with you defamator, spammer, libeler, harasser and
stalker.
Barbara Schwarz

Use this if you want I think Pat hqas the back up one if nessary
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-
abuse.usenet/msg/9a7e0e87ebf01b12

That post by Patrick Michael Sullivan is bullshit, and it';s the sort
of an orchestrated smear campaign to protect those to stalk and abuse
suicidal and depressed people.

Patrick Michael Sullivan got Wasserman to create this fiction to
deflect the fact that Cori Wasserman had made inappropriate approaches
to a depressed and suicidal boy and scared the crap out of him... then
reported the suicidal boy to the police... then continued to lie about
what happened after that.

The liar and stalker Sullivan posted that fiction for Wasserman also
because I have flamed Wasserman to kingdom come for her stupid lies,
and called the liar Wasserman on her bullshit to which the kook had no
response.

Post by DRKDOVE70
I'll testify too,

Cool. We'll see Cori Wasserman having to explain her part in the Suzy
Gonzales affair in court, as well.

Cori Wasserman has no credability whatsoever.

Mari-Mac

2005-05-24 01:01:06 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Cori Wasserman, Patrick Michael Sullivan's willing accomplice in cyber
stalking and posting malicious and false libel, wants to get in on the

Patrick has no accomplices, Robert. That's all in your sick mind.

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber

thug

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sulivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?
Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

All demafation and libel will be used legally against you,

Griffin,

Post by DRKDOVE70
as

Post by Barbara Schwarz
I really have had with you defamator, spammer, libeler, harasser

and

Post by Barbara Schwarz
stalker.
Barbara Schwarz

Use this if you want I think Pat hqas the back up one if nessary
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-
abuse.usenet/msg/9a7e0e87ebf01b12

That post by Patrick Michael Sullivan is bullshit, and it';s the sort
of an orchestrated smear campaign to protect those to stalk and abuse
suicidal and depressed people.

It shows that you were wrong and it was SCP who posted Toffer's real
name, not Cori, you kook.

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan got Wasserman to create this fiction to
deflect the fact that Cori Wasserman had made inappropriate

approaches

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to a depressed and suicidal boy and scared the crap out of him... then
reported the suicidal boy to the police... then continued to lie about
what happened after that.

Cori tried to protect him from dying, you liar. He was 16 years old.
She probably saved his life. He is over 18 years old now, most likely
thanks to Cori, for God sakes...

Post by a***@gmail.com
The liar and stalker Sullivan posted that fiction for Wasserman also
because I have flamed Wasserman to kingdom come for her stupid lies,

AN ADDMISSION OF HARASSMENT IS ABOVE! Griffin has stated: "I have
flamed Wasserman to kingdom come..."

Post by a***@gmail.com
and called the liar Wasserman on her bullshit to which the kook had no
response.

What the heck are you yapping about, LOL! Man, you are drunk, aren't
you?

Post by DRKDOVE70
I'll testify too,

Cool. We'll see Cori Wasserman having to explain her part in the Suzy
Gonzales affair in court, as well.

Cori did nothing wrong, Robert. And we will ALL defend her, rest
assured, you kook.

Post by a***@gmail.com
Cori Wasserman has no credability whatsoever.

Hah! What rubbish, coming from MAGNUS PYM.

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-24 02:00:49 UTC

Cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan stil insists on lying about how
Cori Wasserman "outed", stalked and real-lifed a kid posting to

Post by Mari-Mac
It shows that you were wrong and it was SCP who posted Toffer's real
name, not Cori, you kook.

Another stupid lie by Patrick Michael Sullivan and it's high time
Patrick Michael Sullivan stopped libeling the dead.

Cori Wasserman has a well-deserved reputation as a drama queen and
liar;even Patrick Michael Sullivan himself even once told Wasserman:
"Your comments are ludicrous":

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=***@mb-m11.aol.com

More to the point, Cori Wasserman has knowingly and willingly aided and
abetted Sullivan's harassment, libel, stalking and smear campaign
against me, by making her typically ludicrous allegations.

The lies and libel published and repeated by Cori Wasserman and Patrick
Michael Sullivan need to be corrected and the truth of this matter
needs to be cleared up.

Wasserman refers to the following post to deny the allegation she ever
willingly, knowingly, and maliciously posted the correctly-spelt
surname of a 16 year old asher:

From: "Rael" <***@TKC.net>
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Magnus Pym FAQ Part 11 - Lies and Libel Directed at Cori
Wasserman From Robert Griffin
Message-ID: <PYFmd.181336$***@edtnps84>
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:03 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.102.33.77
X-Trace: edtnps84 1100688303 207.102.33.77 (Wed, 17 Nov 2004 03:45:03
MST)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 03:45:03 MST

These headers clearly identify the post Wasserman uses in her defenceas
being made by Patrick Michael Sullivan, then a Telus customer using a
dial-up account, which was terminated on or about November 25, 2004.

Sullivan's post contained the following false allegations and libel.
The facts and truth of these matters can go on usenet record.

Post by Mari-Mac
Magnus Pym FAQ Part 11 - Lies and Libel Directed at Cori Wasserman

From

Post by Mari-Mac
Robert Griffin

This is a knowingly false and malicious lie made by Patrick Michael
Sullivan.

I have not libeled Cori Wasserman or any usenet poster; nor, to my
knowledge, have I made any statement regarding Wasserman that is false.

Post by Mari-Mac
Q: Did Robert Griffin contact a female by the name of Cori Wasserman

who

Post by Mari-Mac
lives in Manhattan?
A: Yes, Robert Griffin did contact Cori Wasserman by email when he

was using
Totally false. This is an unsubstantiated lie by Patrick Michael
Sullivan and Cori Wasserman.

Can Patrick Michael Sullivan or Cori Wasserman produce this email? Of
course not, because it never existed.

It never existed because no such email was ever sent by me, and any
claims of its existance are a lie to defame my character.

On December 29, 2003, Patrick Michael Sullivan and Cori Wasserman were
challenged by me to post proof or evidence of the existance of this
email.

They never did, because they cannot; they cannot post what did not
exist, what never existed, and was never done.

Post by Mari-Mac
Q: What did Robert Griffin want of Cori Wasserman?
A: Robert Griffin was interested in one thing - her death. Please

read Cori
In the post mentioned by Sullivan dated November 3, 2003: Cori
Wassermann, Patrick Michael Sullivan's associate, posted this libel
regarding me in

Ha remember me??? When we met on a certain web site I was Gothic

Tears. I

eluded to you that I was having suicidal thoughts and you posted

the old

Xanthia Site for all to see. So how many are dead because of you???

said you

thought it was beautiful how I would cut listening to a certain

band music.

How beautiful it was to die bleeding. And you call me a stalker.

You fucked

with a suicidal girls head !!! You sick bastard and now Grace may

be dead

because of you. Me and Grace may not get along but I never wished

her dead.

And I never would have got caught up in ASH if it wasn't for you.

If Grace

is dead you should be in jail for murder.
Cori

It's worth noting the news.individual.net (then news.CIS.dfn.de)
account used by Wasserman, was also used by Douglas Russell Wiser.
By Wiser allowing Wasserman access to his account, I believe this also
makes Douglas Wiser an accessory to this smear campaign.

It's also worth reminding posters that Patrick Michael Sullivan himself
has stated that Cori Wasserman makes "ludicrous" comments.

On December 29, 2003, Cori Wasserman could not answer the following
questions:

======

Post by Mari-Mac
What web site did you post under the name "Gothic Tears? What is the
URL of the site?

Neither Patrick Michael Sullivan nor the criminal's accomplice, Cori
Wassermann, can name the site. Logic suggests they cannot post any
information about this site, because their allegation is a malicous
fabrication.

Post by Mari-Mac
What was the EXACT DATE of this alleged post?

Again Sullivan and Wassermann have no answer. It's obvious why they do
not; no such post was ever made by me, and it is merely more libel and
an attempt at character assassination.

Post by Mari-Mac
Or, was it one of Patrick Michael Sullivan's manufactured sites

created to smear

Post by Mari-Mac
me?

Still silence from Sullivan and Wassermann; their retarded logic being
"we'll repost our lies, since we can't substantiate them".

Post by Mari-Mac
What "suicidal girl's head" did I "mess" with?

Still no answer.

Post by Mari-Mac
Names and dates, Cori Wasserman! POST THEM NOW!

Of course, Cori Wassermann could not post any names and dates, because
the allegations are simply a bunch of libelous lies.

====

There was never any answer to these questions, just multiple reposts of
the post where the questions were raised.

Ever since December 29 2003, Patrick Michael Sullivan has spammed out
his innuendo, out of context quotes and false allegations using my
legal name.

Neither he nor Wasserman ever answered the questions or substantiated
their allegations, and I am therefore seeking damages through the
courts from these vile creatures.

Sullivan cowered behind proxify.com and a Hushmail account to do so;
using <***@hushmail.com>, to spam out his drivel. Too bad
that proxify.com have clearly identified Patrick Michael Sullivan's AOL
account at the time as being the source of this rubbish...

Patrick Michael Sullivan's garbage was taken so seriously by one
reader, that he referred the post to the Seattle office of the FBI and
to the RCMP's Victoria Detachment in British Columbia. Since Sullivan's
claims were baseless, nothing came of the investigation -- however,
such action indicates the defamatory material published by Patrick
Michael Sullivan was taken seriously enough **by another person** to
act upon the malicious libel that Sullivan has spammed out.

That person has agreed to testify against Sullivan in court.

Post by Mari-Mac
Q: Were there any other instances where Robert Griffin took an

interest in

Post by Mari-Mac
the death of other people from Usenet?
A: Yes, there were. Again, please see the posting from Layhieu Haser

Is Alan James Brierly of Tucson, Arizona prepared to continue to allow
his post to be used by Patrick Michael Sullivan?

Is Brierley prepared to stand by his accusations in court?

Mr. Brierly would be well advised to make a statement on this matter,
*right now.*

Post by Mari-Mac
Q: But getting back to Cori Wasserman, I understand that there has

been a

Post by Mari-Mac
FAQ created regarding Wasserman, which was created by Robert Griffin.

Post by Mari-Mac
this correct?
A: Yes, this is correct.

No, it's another lie from Patrick Michael Sullivan.

I have never established any site at The Online Resource Center, and I
did not establish the site http://kook.nm.ru/

Post by Mari-Mac
Please read Robert Griffin's http://kook.nm.ru/FAQ18.html FAQ,

Again: I have not established any site at The Online Resource Center
and I did not establish the site http://kook.nm.ru/ -- therefore
Patrick Michael Sullivan's lie is nonsensical, as it is not my site.

Post by Mari-Mac
then read the
Usenet posting below. This should clear up the lies created to

destroy Cori
This usenet post was ... from whom?

From: ***@hotmail.com (The Kearsley Curse)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Clearing up Pym's lies - "Subject: Toffer's cyanide attempt --
Part Two"
Date: 21 Oct 2004 07:42:42 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 77
Message-ID: <***@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.196.112.115

So Cori Wasserman presents Patrick Michael Sullivan to being as a
credible source of information? (Where, oh where, is that cap to put
back on the glue?)

This nonsense was posted from Patrick Michael Sullivan's AOL account
before it, too, was terminated for abuse. As is the case with Telus: my
attorney will have the account information from AOL to identify
Sullivan as the owner of this account, for presentation in court.

Post by Mari-Mac
Just clearing up some more lies for a friend

Who is Patrick Michael Sullivan kidding?

Post by Mari-Mac
lied about and libeled in the Doug FAQ.

IIRC, the FAQ of Douglas Wiser has the following statement:

"Disclaimer: The Douglas Wiser FAQ is not maintained by its
original writer."

I did not maintain that FAQ Of Douglas Wiser. I did not host it, and I
did not establish any site at http://kook.nm.ru/ so Patrick Michael
Sullivan is lying, again.

Post by Mari-Mac
"Cori Wasserman reveals the surname of the boy on
Wednesday, 21 May 2003"
Horse shit, Pym.

Patrick Michael Sullivan is lying. (Never gets sick of doing it, does
he?)

On Wednesday, 21 May 2003 at 21:45:30 -0400 GMT, Cori Wasserman,
Patrick Michael Sullivan's willing accessory to harassment, libel, and
cyber stalking, revealed the surname of a 16 year old poster onto
alt.suicide.holiday, who had previously been her confidant.

Wasserman and her Canadian cyber stalking pal claim his surname was
"outed" by the late "SCP" in 4 previous emails she posted to trASH at
the boy's request, and Wasserman asserts she "only reposted" that
information.

These are both lies by Wasserman and her accessories, and the truth
needs
to be told.

Again, readers are reminded that Sullivan himself has chastised
Wasserman for making "ludicrous" comments. But it would appear
Wasserman's "ludicrous" comments are quite acceptable only if they
defame enemies of Patrick Michael Sullivan and Douglas Russell Wiser.

Post by Mari-Mac
Have a look at the posting by SCP, AKA Kathleen
Walker, below. Walker revealed Toffer's name on Thu, 08 May 2003
04:39:44 GMT -

Patrick Michael Sullivan and Cori Wasserman are (still) lying. (That
cap's well and truly lost...)

Fact: The spelling of the surname in the email addresses reposted by
SCP is totally different to that used in Wasserman's post; any
cross-reference to Wasserman's post, and those made by the late SCP,
will make that fact quite clear -- even to the most retarded reader.

Post by Mari-Mac
You need to learn how to Google, Pym...
Pymmy, it was Kathleen Walker who revealed Toffer's real name on Thu,
08 May 2003,

False.

Patrick Michael Sullivan is still lying. Anyone who knows how to use
Google Groups will find the allegation is correct.

Fact: Two responses to Wasserman's post containing the boy's surname
had chastised Wassermann for doing so. Those postershad in fact
recognized the boy's surname -- as posted by Wasserman -- as being
correctly spelt, unlike that used used by the boy in his email address
which was posted by SCP, and that Wasserman and Sullivan falsely allege
was "only reposted" by Wasserman.

How like Patrick Michael Sullivan to defame and falsely accuse
a poster of an act who is dead and cannot defend herself!

Post by Mari-Mac
Looks like you need to make a few corrections in your FAQ, Bobby boi,
including your comments that Cori is a child abuser and other such
nonsense, as that's all a complete lie.

False.

Patrick Michael Sullivan is still lying -- with 3 lies in one sentence.

Since the issue of it being 'my FAQ' has already been dealt with, this
"child abuser" allegation needs to be examined:

Fact: The boy had complained of Wasserman making unwanted phone calls
to his girlfriend and clearly felt creeped out by Cori Wasserman; refer
to the boy's post linked below:

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=3e291a68%40news.peakpeak.com

Fact: The boy posted that he had felt that Wasserman had attempted to
lure him to her apartment; refer to the boy's post linked below:

http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=3e320392%40news.peakpeak.com

Fact: Wasserman does not leave people alone when told to do so; refer
to the abuse report sent to AOL and also posted to
news.admin.net-abuse.sightings linked below:

http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=20040701050146.685ECDEF84%40mail02.powweb.com

Fact: Cori Wasserman revealed the boy's surname when under attack by
SCP
for lying, and how Wasserman had treated the kid in the first place.

I know very well that if I provide a message ID here, then I am
exposing this poster's correctly spelt name by proxy onto Usenet again
-- and this I do not wish to do. But I will be pleased to present that
post in court.

Post by Mari-Mac
As Cori Wasserman became more involved in helping [the boy], this is
where her trouble began. As [the boy's] suicidal feelings became

stronger, he

Post by Mari-Mac
now felt bothered by Wasserman and began to lash out at her

False. This post made by WASSERMAN on January 17 2003 at 04:21:15 GMT
is the first public mention of either of the two persons "lashing out".

NOTE: There is no "References" header in this post, which would
indicate a preceding post to support SULLIVAN's claim that the boy was
the first party to begin attacking the other:

From: ***@aol.com (Patience)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Warning
Date: 17 Jan 2003 20:21:15 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com/
Lines: 10
Message-ID: <***@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.96.106
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1042863675 21327 127.0.0.1 (18 Jan 2003
04:21:15 GMT)
X-Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 2003 04:21:15 GMT

So, Sullivan is lying; Wasserman first "lashed out" at the boy.

The responses to this drivel posted by Wasserman included several from
the boy, who was clearly creeped out by Wasserman -- and in this
responses, he stated why it was so; refer to the links provided.

Post by Mari-Mac
Wasserman and [the boy] never met in person, they only
communicated VIA email and by telephone. And never was there any talk

Post by Mari-Mac
sexual relations between the two of them.

Misleading. The boy posted the following message on Sat, 18 Jan 2003
07:52:19 GMT and the boy stated clearly that the telephone calls from
Wasserman were unwelcome... and that the boy considered his girlfriend

Post by Mari-Mac
Cori has been nothing but helpful to other people on this and other
NGs.

The rub is: Cori Wasserman has been helpful to cyber stalkers with
posting lies and libel, to harass and abuse people her associates do
not like.

Fact: Cori Wassermann helps and supports Douglas Wiser and Patrick
Michael Sullivan in their libel and smear campaigns, and posts
responses to give them credibility, and to smear and libel Wiser's and
Sullivan's opponents.

Ample proof of this can be seen in Wasserman's post regarding me
from November 3, 2003.

Post by Mari-Mac
As can be read, Robert Griffin lied about the exposure of [the boy's]
name on Usenet. It was in fact Kathleen Walker (now deceased - a

suicide)

Post by Mari-Mac
who published [the boy's] name on Usenet, not Cori Wasserman, as

Griffin

Post by Mari-Mac
stated.

Totally and completely false, as any diligent person checking the posts
themselves will find out for themselves.

What a pathetic collection of lies by Patrick Michael Sullivan and his
accomplice, to distract others from their own misdeeds... by lying and
defaming others in the process -- one person being defamed isn't even
alive to defend herself; may she rest in peace.

Post by Mari-Mac
[The boy] started out there communication on Usenet as
friends. And [The boy] would often refer to Cori Wasserman as "mom"

Post by Mari-Mac
email conversations.

Another lie by Patrick Michael Sullivan. (and no one's surprised.)

Readers ought to note the post appearing at the link below, where the
boy is clearly offended and revolted at the thought of Wasserman
attempting to pretend to be the boy's surrogate mother figure:

http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3e291a68%40news.peakpeak.com

Post by Mari-Mac
[The boy] got himself mixed up with a "brood of vipers".

He certainly did -- he made the mistake of being sucked in by
Cori Wasserman.

The boy sought alternative online friendships that did not involve
the likes of WASSERMAN, SULLIVAN, or WISER.

Post by Mari-Mac
Wasserman did nothing wrong to anyone.

False. Cori Wasserman has admitted to being party to at least two
suicides.

Message-ID: <***@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <***@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

Cori Wasserman has willingly and knowingly posted false statements to
support a smear and harassment campaign, and has therefore been a
willing accessory to cyber stalking and harassment.

Message-ID: <***@mb-m17.aol.com>
Message-ID: <***@mb-m18.aol.com>
Message-ID: <***@mb-m01.aol.com>

Not only did Wasserman often support WISER and SULLIVAN in their smear
and libel campaigns, Wasserman committed quoting fraud, threatened to
report posters to police, and provided Sullivan with enough data to
defame the boy who wanted Wasserman to leave him and his girlfriend
alone.

On Friday May 23, 2003, Wasserman and Wiser induced a state of panic
into a young woman named Amy, an asher known as "Luxx" (now sadly
deceased) that led perilously close into Amy making a suicide attempt
that day.

Wasserman and Wiser wilfully and intentionally took one phrase in a
post made by Amy -- an obvious joke at face value -- and threatened to
call police over what Wasserman and Wiser stupidly insisted was a death
threat.

The posts in question are here:

Amy's so-called "murder threat":
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=5036cff1.0305231255.2aff22f3%40posting.google.com

Wasserman's "response":
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=bam2rp%241a1j8%241%40ID-94123.news.dfncis.de

Wiser's "interpretation":
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=bam3o1%241alf1%241%40ID-94123.news.dfncis.de

Conterpoint: observations of this affair by rational people:

http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3ece9a7f.445913%40newzilla.xs4all.nl
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3ece9253%40shknews01
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3ecf2a6d%40shknews01
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=i96vcvg2iltvb9kkmlghfp5ee1mn4cvap7%404ax.com
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=amsvcv0devb54aaogdher53t10k98g8oa4%404ax.com
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3ecf8524.1246408%40newzilla.xs4all.nl

Amy's statement that she was clearly upset:
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=5036cff1.0305261248.2df58de1%40posting.google.com

I spoke with Amy for several hours by telephone that day, until the
state of extreme fear induced by Wasserman and Wiser had abated, and
she had calmed down.

It seems clear to me that Cori Wasserman goes out of her way to cause
trouble for other people and turns viciously on them if she doesn't get
her way.

I do not want anything to do with Cori Wasserman, yet this ridiculous
woman kept repeatadly spamming an ASBS admin address, thinking it was
me -- and even after the recipient of her crap told this stupid woman
to cease and desist to contact that email address again:

http://groups.google.ca/groups?as_epq=drkdove70&as_ugroup=*abuse*&as_uauthors=asbs&as_scoring=d

Post by Mari-Mac
From the evidence above and with what I have established from talking

with several people in email, by telephone, and face-to-face: I hold
the opinion that Cori Wasserman is a malicious, abusive, and dishonest
individual and should never be trusted. It's acknowledged that abusers
and predators will not leave people alone when told to do so; the word
"no" does not exist in their vocabulary.

Post by Mari-Mac
AN ADDMISSION OF HARASSMENT IS ABOVE! Griffin has stated: "I have
flamed Wasserman to kingdom come..."

"Admission of harassment"? From Usenet flames? LOL!

How does the cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan categorise it's own
behavior?

DRKDOVE70

2005-05-24 02:21:59 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan stil insists on lying about how
Cori Wasserman "outed", stalked and real-lifed a kid posting to

Post by Mari-Mac
It shows that you were wrong and it was SCP who posted Toffer's real
name, not Cori, you kook.

Another stupid lie by Patrick Michael Sullivan and it's high time
Patrick Michael Sullivan stopped libeling the dead.
Cori Wasserman has a well-deserved reputation as a drama queen and
More to the point, Cori Wasserman has knowingly and willingly aided and
abetted Sullivan's harassment, libel, stalking and smear campaign
against me, by making her typically ludicrous allegations.
The lies and libel published and repeated by Cori Wasserman and Patrick
Michael Sullivan need to be corrected and the truth of this matter
needs to be cleared up.
Wasserman refers to the following post to deny the allegation she ever
willingly, knowingly, and maliciously posted the correctly-spelt
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Magnus Pym FAQ Part 11 - Lies and Libel Directed at Cori
Wasserman From Robert Griffin
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:03 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.102.33.77
X-Trace: edtnps84 1100688303 207.102.33.77 (Wed, 17 Nov 2004 03:45:03
MST)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 03:45:03 MST
These headers clearly identify the post Wasserman uses in her

defenceas

Post by a***@gmail.com
being made by Patrick Michael Sullivan, then a Telus customer using a
dial-up account, which was terminated on or about November 25, 2004.
Sullivan's post contained the following false allegations and libel.
The facts and truth of these matters can go on usenet record.

Post by Mari-Mac
Magnus Pym FAQ Part 11 - Lies and Libel Directed at Cori Wasserman

From

Post by Mari-Mac
Robert Griffin

This is a knowingly false and malicious lie made by Patrick Michael
Sullivan.
I have not libeled Cori Wasserman or any usenet poster; nor, to my
knowledge, have I made any statement regarding Wasserman that is false.

Post by Mari-Mac
Q: Did Robert Griffin contact a female by the name of Cori

Wasserman

Post by a***@gmail.com
who

Post by Mari-Mac
lives in Manhattan?
A: Yes, Robert Griffin did contact Cori Wasserman by email when he

was using
Totally false. This is an unsubstantiated lie by Patrick Michael
Sullivan and Cori Wasserman.
Can Patrick Michael Sullivan or Cori Wasserman produce this email? Of
course not, because it never existed.
It never existed because no such email was ever sent by me, and any
claims of its existance are a lie to defame my character.
On December 29, 2003, Patrick Michael Sullivan and Cori Wasserman were
challenged by me to post proof or evidence of the existance of this
email.
They never did, because they cannot; they cannot post what did not
exist, what never existed, and was never done.

Post by Mari-Mac
Q: What did Robert Griffin want of Cori Wasserman?
A: Robert Griffin was interested in one thing - her death. Please

read Cori
In the post mentioned by Sullivan dated November 3, 2003: Cori
Wassermann, Patrick Michael Sullivan's associate, posted this libel
regarding me in

Ha remember me??? When we met on a certain web site I was Gothic

Tears. I

eluded to you that I was having suicidal thoughts and you posted

the old

Xanthia Site for all to see. So how many are dead because of you???

said you

thought it was beautiful how I would cut listening to a certain

band music.

How beautiful it was to die bleeding. And you call me a stalker.

You fucked

with a suicidal girls head !!! You sick bastard and now Grace may

be dead

because of you. Me and Grace may not get along but I never wished

her dead.

And I never would have got caught up in ASH if it wasn't for you.

If Grace

is dead you should be in jail for murder.
Cori

It's worth noting the news.individual.net (then news.CIS.dfn.de)
account used by Wasserman, was also used by Douglas Russell Wiser.
By Wiser allowing Wasserman access to his account, I believe this also
makes Douglas Wiser an accessory to this smear campaign.
It's also worth reminding posters that Patrick Michael Sullivan himself
has stated that Cori Wasserman makes "ludicrous" comments.
On December 29, 2003, Cori Wasserman could not answer the following
======

Post by Mari-Mac
What web site did you post under the name "Gothic Tears? What is the
URL of the site?

Post by Mari-Mac
What was the EXACT DATE of this alleged post?

Again Sullivan and Wassermann have no answer. It's obvious why they do
not; no such post was ever made by me, and it is merely more libel and
an attempt at character assassination.

Post by Mari-Mac
Or, was it one of Patrick Michael Sullivan's manufactured sites

created to smear

Post by Mari-Mac
me?

Still silence from Sullivan and Wassermann; their retarded logic being
"we'll repost our lies, since we can't substantiate them".

Post by Mari-Mac
What "suicidal girl's head" did I "mess" with?

Still no answer.

Post by Mari-Mac
Names and dates, Cori Wasserman! POST THEM NOW!

Of course, Cori Wassermann could not post any names and dates,

because

Post by a***@gmail.com
the allegations are simply a bunch of libelous lies.
====
There was never any answer to these questions, just multiple reposts of
the post where the questions were raised.
Ever since December 29 2003, Patrick Michael Sullivan has spammed out
his innuendo, out of context quotes and false allegations using my
legal name.
Neither he nor Wasserman ever answered the questions or substantiated
their allegations, and I am therefore seeking damages through the
courts from these vile creatures.
Sullivan cowered behind proxify.com and a Hushmail account to do so;
that proxify.com have clearly identified Patrick Michael Sullivan's AOL
account at the time as being the source of this rubbish...
Patrick Michael Sullivan's garbage was taken so seriously by one
reader, that he referred the post to the Seattle office of the FBI and
to the RCMP's Victoria Detachment in British Columbia. Since

Sullivan's

Post by a***@gmail.com
claims were baseless, nothing came of the investigation -- however,
such action indicates the defamatory material published by Patrick
Michael Sullivan was taken seriously enough **by another person** to
act upon the malicious libel that Sullivan has spammed out.
That person has agreed to testify against Sullivan in court.

Post by Mari-Mac
Q: Were there any other instances where Robert Griffin took an

interest in

Post by Mari-Mac
the death of other people from Usenet?
A: Yes, there were. Again, please see the posting from Layhieu Haser

Is Alan James Brierly of Tucson, Arizona prepared to continue to allow
his post to be used by Patrick Michael Sullivan?
Is Brierley prepared to stand by his accusations in court?
Mr. Brierly would be well advised to make a statement on this matter,
*right now.*

Post by Mari-Mac
Q: But getting back to Cori Wasserman, I understand that there has

been a

Post by Mari-Mac
FAQ created regarding Wasserman, which was created by Robert

Griffin.

Post by a***@gmail.com
Is

Post by Mari-Mac
this correct?
A: Yes, this is correct.

No, it's another lie from Patrick Michael Sullivan.
I have never established any site at The Online Resource Center, and I
did not establish the site http://kook.nm.ru/

Post by Mari-Mac
Please read Robert Griffin's http://kook.nm.ru/FAQ18.html FAQ,

Post by Mari-Mac
then read the
Usenet posting below. This should clear up the lies created to

destroy Cori
This usenet post was ... from whom?
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Clearing up Pym's lies - "Subject: Toffer's cyanide attempt --
Part Two"
Date: 21 Oct 2004 07:42:42 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 77
NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.196.112.115
So Cori Wasserman presents Patrick Michael Sullivan to being as a
credible source of information? (Where, oh where, is that cap to put
back on the glue?)
This nonsense was posted from Patrick Michael Sullivan's AOL account
before it, too, was terminated for abuse. As is the case with Telus: my
attorney will have the account information from AOL to identify
Sullivan as the owner of this account, for presentation in court.

Post by Mari-Mac
Just clearing up some more lies for a friend

Who is Patrick Michael Sullivan kidding?

Post by Mari-Mac
lied about and libeled in the Doug FAQ.

"Disclaimer: The Douglas Wiser FAQ is not maintained by its
original writer."
I did not maintain that FAQ Of Douglas Wiser. I did not host it, and I
did not establish any site at http://kook.nm.ru/ so Patrick Michael
Sullivan is lying, again.

Post by Mari-Mac
"Cori Wasserman reveals the surname of the boy on
Wednesday, 21 May 2003"
Horse shit, Pym.

Patrick Michael Sullivan is lying. (Never gets sick of doing it, does
he?)
On Wednesday, 21 May 2003 at 21:45:30 -0400 GMT, Cori Wasserman,
Patrick Michael Sullivan's willing accessory to harassment, libel, and
cyber stalking, revealed the surname of a 16 year old poster onto
alt.suicide.holiday, who had previously been her confidant.
Wasserman and her Canadian cyber stalking pal claim his surname was
"outed" by the late "SCP" in 4 previous emails she posted to trASH at
the boy's request, and Wasserman asserts she "only reposted" that
information.
These are both lies by Wasserman and her accessories, and the truth
needs
to be told.
Again, readers are reminded that Sullivan himself has chastised
Wasserman for making "ludicrous" comments. But it would appear
Wasserman's "ludicrous" comments are quite acceptable only if they
defame enemies of Patrick Michael Sullivan and Douglas Russell Wiser.

Post by Mari-Mac
Have a look at the posting by SCP, AKA Kathleen
Walker, below. Walker revealed Toffer's name on Thu, 08 May 2003
04:39:44 GMT -

Patrick Michael Sullivan and Cori Wasserman are (still) lying. (That
cap's well and truly lost...)
Fact: The spelling of the surname in the email addresses reposted by
SCP is totally different to that used in Wasserman's post; any
cross-reference to Wasserman's post, and those made by the late SCP,
will make that fact quite clear -- even to the most retarded reader.

Post by Mari-Mac
You need to learn how to Google, Pym...
Pymmy, it was Kathleen Walker who revealed Toffer's real name on Thu,
08 May 2003,

address

Post by a***@gmail.com
which was posted by SCP, and that Wasserman and Sullivan falsely allege
was "only reposted" by Wasserman.
How like Patrick Michael Sullivan to defame and falsely accuse
a poster of an act who is dead and cannot defend herself!

Post by Mari-Mac
Looks like you need to make a few corrections in your FAQ, Bobby boi,
including your comments that Cori is a child abuser and other such
nonsense, as that's all a complete lie.

False.
Patrick Michael Sullivan is still lying -- with 3 lies in one

sentence.

Post by a***@gmail.com
Since the issue of it being 'my FAQ' has already been dealt with, this
Fact: The boy had complained of Wasserman making unwanted phone calls
to his girlfriend and clearly felt creeped out by Cori Wasserman; refer
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=3e291a68%40news.peakpeak.com
Fact: The boy posted that he had felt that Wasserman had attempted to
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=3e320392%40news.peakpeak.com
Fact: Wasserman does not leave people alone when told to do so; refer
to the abuse report sent to AOL and also posted to

http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=20040701050146.685ECDEF84%40mail02.powweb.com

Post by a***@gmail.com
Fact: Cori Wasserman revealed the boy's surname when under attack by
SCP
for lying, and how Wasserman had treated the kid in the first place.
I know very well that if I provide a message ID here, then I am
exposing this poster's correctly spelt name by proxy onto Usenet again
-- and this I do not wish to do. But I will be pleased to present that
post in court.

Post by Mari-Mac
As Cori Wasserman became more involved in helping [the boy], this is
where her trouble began. As [the boy's] suicidal feelings became

stronger, he

Post by Mari-Mac
now felt bothered by Wasserman and began to lash out at her

False. This post made by WASSERMAN on January 17 2003 at 04:21:15 GMT
is the first public mention of either of the two persons "lashing out".
NOTE: There is no "References" header in this post, which would
indicate a preceding post to support SULLIVAN's claim that the boy was
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Warning
Date: 17 Jan 2003 20:21:15 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com/
Lines: 10
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.96.106
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1042863675 21327 127.0.0.1 (18 Jan 2003
04:21:15 GMT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 2003 04:21:15 GMT
So, Sullivan is lying; Wasserman first "lashed out" at the boy.
The responses to this drivel posted by Wasserman included several from
the boy, who was clearly creeped out by Wasserman -- and in this
responses, he stated why it was so; refer to the links provided.

Post by Mari-Mac
Wasserman and [the boy] never met in person, they only
communicated VIA email and by telephone. And never was there any talk

Post by Mari-Mac
sexual relations between the two of them.

Misleading. The boy posted the following message on Sat, 18 Jan 2003
07:52:19 GMT and the boy stated clearly that the telephone calls from
Wasserman were unwelcome... and that the boy considered his

girlfriend

Post by Mari-Mac
Cori has been nothing but helpful to other people on this and other
NGs.

The rub is: Cori Wasserman has been helpful to cyber stalkers with
posting lies and libel, to harass and abuse people her associates do
not like.
Fact: Cori Wassermann helps and supports Douglas Wiser and Patrick
Michael Sullivan in their libel and smear campaigns, and posts
responses to give them credibility, and to smear and libel Wiser's and
Sullivan's opponents.
Ample proof of this can be seen in Wasserman's post regarding me
from November 3, 2003.

Post by Mari-Mac
As can be read, Robert Griffin lied about the exposure of [the boy's]
name on Usenet. It was in fact Kathleen Walker (now deceased - a

suicide)

Post by Mari-Mac
who published [the boy's] name on Usenet, not Cori Wasserman, as

Griffin

Post by Mari-Mac
stated.

Totally and completely false, as any diligent person checking the posts
themselves will find out for themselves.
What a pathetic collection of lies by Patrick Michael Sullivan and his
accomplice, to distract others from their own misdeeds... by lying and
defaming others in the process -- one person being defamed isn't even
alive to defend herself; may she rest in peace.

Post by Mari-Mac
[The boy] started out there communication on Usenet as
friends. And [The boy] would often refer to Cori Wasserman as "mom"

Post by Mari-Mac
email conversations.

Another lie by Patrick Michael Sullivan. (and no one's surprised.)
Readers ought to note the post appearing at the link below, where the
boy is clearly offended and revolted at the thought of Wasserman
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3e291a68%40news.peakpeak.com

Post by Mari-Mac
[The boy] got himself mixed up with a "brood of vipers".

He certainly did -- he made the mistake of being sucked in by
Cori Wasserman.
The boy sought alternative online friendships that did not involve
the likes of WASSERMAN, SULLIVAN, or WISER.

Post by Mari-Mac
Wasserman did nothing wrong to anyone.

False. Cori Wasserman has admitted to being party to at least two
suicides.
Cori Wasserman has willingly and knowingly posted false statements to
support a smear and harassment campaign, and has therefore been a
willing accessory to cyber stalking and harassment.
Not only did Wasserman often support WISER and SULLIVAN in their smear
and libel campaigns, Wasserman committed quoting fraud, threatened to
report posters to police, and provided Sullivan with enough data to
defame the boy who wanted Wasserman to leave him and his girlfriend
alone.
On Friday May 23, 2003, Wasserman and Wiser induced a state of panic
into a young woman named Amy, an asher known as "Luxx" (now sadly
deceased) that led perilously close into Amy making a suicide attempt
that day.
Wasserman and Wiser wilfully and intentionally took one phrase in a
post made by Amy -- an obvious joke at face value -- and threatened to
call police over what Wasserman and Wiser stupidly insisted was a death
threat.

http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=5036cff1.0305231255.2aff22f3%40posting.google.com
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=bam2rp%241a1j8%241%40ID-94123.news.dfncis.de
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=bam3o1%241alf1%241%40ID-94123.news.dfncis.de
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3ece9a7f.445913%40newzilla.xs4all.nl

Post by a***@gmail.com
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3ece9253%40shknews01
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3ecf2a6d%40shknews01

http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=i96vcvg2iltvb9kkmlghfp5ee1mn4cvap7%404ax.com
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=amsvcv0devb54aaogdher53t10k98g8oa4%404ax.com
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3ecf8524.1246408%40newzilla.xs4all.nl
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=5036cff1.0305261248.2df58de1%40posting.google.com

Post by a***@gmail.com
I spoke with Amy for several hours by telephone that day, until the
state of extreme fear induced by Wasserman and Wiser had abated, and
she had calmed down.
It seems clear to me that Cori Wasserman goes out of her way to cause
trouble for other people and turns viciously on them if she doesn't get
her way.
I do not want anything to do with Cori Wasserman, yet this ridiculous
woman kept repeatadly spamming an ASBS admin address, thinking it was
me -- and even after the recipient of her crap told this stupid woman

http://groups.google.ca/groups?as_epq=drkdove70&as_ugroup=*abuse*&as_uauthors=asbs&as_scoring=d

Post by Mari-Mac
From the evidence above and with what I have established from

talking

Post by a***@gmail.com
with several people in email, by telephone, and face-to-face: I hold
the opinion that Cori Wasserman is a malicious, abusive, and

dishonest

Post by a***@gmail.com
individual and should never be trusted. It's acknowledged that

abusers

Post by a***@gmail.com
and predators will not leave people alone when told to do so; the word
"no" does not exist in their vocabulary.

Post by Mari-Mac
AN ADDMISSION OF HARASSMENT IS ABOVE! Griffin has stated: "I have
flamed Wasserman to kingdom come..."

"Admission of harassment"? From Usenet flames? LOL!
How does the cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan categorise it's own
behavior?

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.usenet/msg/9a7e0e87ebf01b12

^ Read it and weep asshole
CW

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-24 02:41:53 UTC

Cori Wasserman demonstrates why she's a few sandwitches short of a

Post by a***@gmail.com
Cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan stil insists on lying about

how

Post by a***@gmail.com
Cori Wasserman "outed", stalked and real-lifed a kid posting to

Post by Mari-Mac
It shows that you were wrong and it was SCP who posted Toffer's

real

Post by Mari-Mac
name, not Cori, you kook.

and

Post by a***@gmail.com
abetted Sullivan's harassment, libel, stalking and smear campaign
against me, by making her typically ludicrous allegations.
The lies and libel published and repeated by Cori Wasserman and

Patrick

Post by a***@gmail.com
Michael Sullivan need to be corrected and the truth of this matter
needs to be cleared up.
Wasserman refers to the following post to deny the allegation she

ever

Post by a***@gmail.com
willingly, knowingly, and maliciously posted the correctly-spelt
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Magnus Pym FAQ Part 11 - Lies and Libel Directed at Cori
Wasserman From Robert Griffin
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:45:03 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.102.33.77
X-Trace: edtnps84 1100688303 207.102.33.77 (Wed, 17 Nov 2004

03:45:03

Post by a***@gmail.com
MST)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 03:45:03 MST
These headers clearly identify the post Wasserman uses in her

defenceas

Post by Mari-Mac
Magnus Pym FAQ Part 11 - Lies and Libel Directed at Cori

Wasserman

Post by a***@gmail.com
From

Post by Mari-Mac
Robert Griffin

This is a knowingly false and malicious lie made by Patrick Michael
Sullivan.
I have not libeled Cori Wasserman or any usenet poster; nor, to my
knowledge, have I made any statement regarding Wasserman that is

false.

Post by Mari-Mac
Q: Did Robert Griffin contact a female by the name of Cori

Wasserman

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who

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lives in Manhattan?
A: Yes, Robert Griffin did contact Cori Wasserman by email when he

were

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challenged by me to post proof or evidence of the existance of this
email.
They never did, because they cannot; they cannot post what did not
exist, what never existed, and was never done.

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Q: What did Robert Griffin want of Cori Wasserman?
A: Robert Griffin was interested in one thing - her death. Please

read Cori
In the post mentioned by Sullivan dated November 3, 2003: Cori
Wassermann, Patrick Michael Sullivan's associate, posted this libel
regarding me in

Ha remember me??? When we met on a certain web site I was Gothic

Tears. I

eluded to you that I was having suicidal thoughts and you posted

the old

Xanthia Site for all to see. So how many are dead because of

you???

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said you

thought it was beautiful how I would cut listening to a certain

band music.

How beautiful it was to die bleeding. And you call me a

stalker.

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You fucked

with a suicidal girls head !!! You sick bastard and now Grace may

be dead

because of you. Me and Grace may not get along but I never wished

her dead.

And I never would have got caught up in ASH if it wasn't for you.

If Grace

is dead you should be in jail for murder.
Cori

It's worth noting the news.individual.net (then news.CIS.dfn.de)
account used by Wasserman, was also used by Douglas Russell Wiser.
By Wiser allowing Wasserman access to his account, I believe this

also

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makes Douglas Wiser an accessory to this smear campaign.
It's also worth reminding posters that Patrick Michael Sullivan

himself

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has stated that Cori Wasserman makes "ludicrous" comments.
On December 29, 2003, Cori Wasserman could not answer the

following

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======

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What web site did you post under the name "Gothic Tears? What is

the

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URL of the site?

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What was the EXACT DATE of this alleged post?

Again Sullivan and Wassermann have no answer. It's obvious why they

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not; no such post was ever made by me, and it is merely more libel

and

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an attempt at character assassination.

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Or, was it one of Patrick Michael Sullivan's manufactured sites

created to smear

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me?

Still silence from Sullivan and Wassermann; their retarded logic

being

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"we'll repost our lies, since we can't substantiate them".

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What "suicidal girl's head" did I "mess" with?

Still no answer.

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Names and dates, Cori Wasserman! POST THEM NOW!

Of course, Cori Wassermann could not post any names and dates,

because

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the allegations are simply a bunch of libelous lies.
====
There was never any answer to these questions, just multiple

reposts

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of

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the post where the questions were raised.
Ever since December 29 2003, Patrick Michael Sullivan has spammed out
his innuendo, out of context quotes and false allegations using my
legal name.
Neither he nor Wasserman ever answered the questions or

substantiated

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their allegations, and I am therefore seeking damages through the
courts from these vile creatures.
Sullivan cowered behind proxify.com and a Hushmail account to do so;

bad

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that proxify.com have clearly identified Patrick Michael Sullivan's

AOL

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account at the time as being the source of this rubbish...
Patrick Michael Sullivan's garbage was taken so seriously by one
reader, that he referred the post to the Seattle office of the FBI

and

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to the RCMP's Victoria Detachment in British Columbia. Since

Sullivan's

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Q: Were there any other instances where Robert Griffin took an

interest in

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the death of other people from Usenet?
A: Yes, there were. Again, please see the posting from Layhieu

Haser

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Is Alan James Brierly of Tucson, Arizona prepared to continue to

allow

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his post to be used by Patrick Michael Sullivan?
Is Brierley prepared to stand by his accusations in court?
Mr. Brierly would be well advised to make a statement on this matter,
*right now.*

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Q: But getting back to Cori Wasserman, I understand that there has

been a

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FAQ created regarding Wasserman, which was created by Robert

Griffin.

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Is

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this correct?
A: Yes, this is correct.

No, it's another lie from Patrick Michael Sullivan.
I have never established any site at The Online Resource Center,

and

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I

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did not establish the site http://kook.nm.ru/

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Please read Robert Griffin's http://kook.nm.ru/FAQ18.html FAQ,

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then read the
Usenet posting below. This should clear up the lies created to

destroy Cori
This usenet post was ... from whom?
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Clearing up Pym's lies - "Subject: Toffer's cyanide

attempt

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--

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Part Two"
Date: 21 Oct 2004 07:42:42 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 77
NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.196.112.115
So Cori Wasserman presents Patrick Michael Sullivan to being as a
credible source of information? (Where, oh where, is that cap to put
back on the glue?)
This nonsense was posted from Patrick Michael Sullivan's AOL

account

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before it, too, was terminated for abuse. As is the case with

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attorney will have the account information from AOL to identify
Sullivan as the owner of this account, for presentation in court.

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Just clearing up some more lies for a friend

Who is Patrick Michael Sullivan kidding?

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lied about and libeled in the Doug FAQ.

"Disclaimer: The Douglas Wiser FAQ is not maintained by its
original writer."
I did not maintain that FAQ Of Douglas Wiser. I did not host it,

and

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I

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did not establish any site at http://kook.nm.ru/ so Patrick Michael
Sullivan is lying, again.

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"Cori Wasserman reveals the surname of the boy on
Wednesday, 21 May 2003"
Horse shit, Pym.

and

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cyber stalking, revealed the surname of a 16 year old poster onto
alt.suicide.holiday, who had previously been her confidant.
Wasserman and her Canadian cyber stalking pal claim his surname was
"outed" by the late "SCP" in 4 previous emails she posted to trASH at
the boy's request, and Wasserman asserts she "only reposted" that
information.
These are both lies by Wasserman and her accessories, and the truth
needs
to be told.
Again, readers are reminded that Sullivan himself has chastised
Wasserman for making "ludicrous" comments. But it would appear
Wasserman's "ludicrous" comments are quite acceptable only if they
defame enemies of Patrick Michael Sullivan and Douglas Russell Wiser.

Post by Mari-Mac
Have a look at the posting by SCP, AKA Kathleen
Walker, below. Walker revealed Toffer's name on Thu, 08 May 2003
04:39:44 GMT -

Patrick Michael Sullivan and Cori Wasserman are (still) lying. (That
cap's well and truly lost...)
Fact: The spelling of the surname in the email addresses reposted by
SCP is totally different to that used in Wasserman's post; any
cross-reference to Wasserman's post, and those made by the late SCP,
will make that fact quite clear -- even to the most retarded

reader.

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You need to learn how to Google, Pym...
Pymmy, it was Kathleen Walker who revealed Toffer's real name on

Thu,

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08 May 2003,

False.
Patrick Michael Sullivan is still lying. Anyone who knows how to use
Google Groups will find the allegation is correct.
Fact: Two responses to Wasserman's post containing the boy's

surname

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had chastised Wassermann for doing so. Those postershad in fact
recognized the boy's surname -- as posted by Wasserman -- as being
correctly spelt, unlike that used used by the boy in his email

address

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which was posted by SCP, and that Wasserman and Sullivan falsely

allege

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was "only reposted" by Wasserman.
How like Patrick Michael Sullivan to defame and falsely accuse
a poster of an act who is dead and cannot defend herself!

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Looks like you need to make a few corrections in your FAQ, Bobby

boi,

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including your comments that Cori is a child abuser and other such
nonsense, as that's all a complete lie.

False.
Patrick Michael Sullivan is still lying -- with 3 lies in one

sentence.

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Since the issue of it being 'my FAQ' has already been dealt with,

this

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Fact: The boy had complained of Wasserman making unwanted phone calls
to his girlfriend and clearly felt creeped out by Cori Wasserman;

refer

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http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=3e291a68%40news.peakpeak.com
Fact: The boy posted that he had felt that Wasserman had attempted to
http://groups.google.co.uk/groups?selm=3e320392%40news.peakpeak.com
Fact: Wasserman does not leave people alone when told to do so; refer
to the abuse report sent to AOL and also posted to

http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=20040701050146.685ECDEF84%40mail02.powweb.com

again

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-- and this I do not wish to do. But I will be pleased to present

that

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post in court.

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As Cori Wasserman became more involved in helping [the boy], this

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where her trouble began. As [the boy's] suicidal feelings became

stronger, he

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now felt bothered by Wasserman and began to lash out at her

False. This post made by WASSERMAN on January 17 2003 at 04:21:15 GMT
is the first public mention of either of the two persons "lashing

out".

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NOTE: There is no "References" header in this post, which would
indicate a preceding post to support SULLIVAN's claim that the boy

was

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Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Warning
Date: 17 Jan 2003 20:21:15 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com/
Lines: 10
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.96.106
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Trace: posting.google.com 1042863675 21327 127.0.0.1 (18 Jan 2003
04:21:15 GMT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Jan 2003 04:21:15 GMT
So, Sullivan is lying; Wasserman first "lashed out" at the boy.
The responses to this drivel posted by Wasserman included several

from

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the boy, who was clearly creeped out by Wasserman -- and in this
responses, he stated why it was so; refer to the links provided.

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Wasserman and [the boy] never met in person, they only
communicated VIA email and by telephone. And never was there any

talk

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of

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sexual relations between the two of them.

Misleading. The boy posted the following message on Sat, 18 Jan 2003
07:52:19 GMT and the boy stated clearly that the telephone calls from
Wasserman were unwelcome... and that the boy considered his

girlfriend

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Cori has been nothing but helpful to other people on this and

other

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NGs.

The rub is: Cori Wasserman has been helpful to cyber stalkers with
posting lies and libel, to harass and abuse people her associates do
not like.
Fact: Cori Wassermann helps and supports Douglas Wiser and Patrick
Michael Sullivan in their libel and smear campaigns, and posts
responses to give them credibility, and to smear and libel Wiser's

and

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Sullivan's opponents.
Ample proof of this can be seen in Wasserman's post regarding me
from November 3, 2003.

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As can be read, Robert Griffin lied about the exposure of [the

boy's]

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name on Usenet. It was in fact Kathleen Walker (now deceased - a

suicide)

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who published [the boy's] name on Usenet, not Cori Wasserman, as

Griffin

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stated.

Totally and completely false, as any diligent person checking the

posts

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themselves will find out for themselves.
What a pathetic collection of lies by Patrick Michael Sullivan and

his

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accomplice, to distract others from their own misdeeds... by lying

and

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defaming others in the process -- one person being defamed isn't

even

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alive to defend herself; may she rest in peace.

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[The boy] started out there communication on Usenet as
friends. And [The boy] would often refer to Cori Wasserman as "mom"

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email conversations.

Another lie by Patrick Michael Sullivan. (and no one's surprised.)
Readers ought to note the post appearing at the link below, where the
boy is clearly offended and revolted at the thought of Wasserman
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3e291a68%40news.peakpeak.com

Post by Mari-Mac
[The boy] got himself mixed up with a "brood of vipers".

He certainly did -- he made the mistake of being sucked in by
Cori Wasserman.
The boy sought alternative online friendships that did not involve
the likes of WASSERMAN, SULLIVAN, or WISER.

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Wasserman did nothing wrong to anyone.

smear

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and libel campaigns, Wasserman committed quoting fraud, threatened to
report posters to police, and provided Sullivan with enough data to
defame the boy who wanted Wasserman to leave him and his girlfriend
alone.
On Friday May 23, 2003, Wasserman and Wiser induced a state of panic
into a young woman named Amy, an asher known as "Luxx" (now sadly
deceased) that led perilously close into Amy making a suicide attempt
that day.
Wasserman and Wiser wilfully and intentionally took one phrase in a
post made by Amy -- an obvious joke at face value -- and

threatened

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to

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call police over what Wasserman and Wiser stupidly insisted was a

death

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threat.

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http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3ece9253%40shknews01
http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=3ecf2a6d%40shknews01

get

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her way.
I do not want anything to do with Cori Wasserman, yet this

ridiculous

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woman kept repeatadly spamming an ASBS admin address, thinking it was
me -- and even after the recipient of her crap told this stupid woman

http://groups.google.ca/groups?as_epq=drkdove70&as_ugroup=*abuse*&as_uauthors=asbs&as_scoring=d

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From the evidence above and with what I have established from

talking

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with several people in email, by telephone, and face-to-face: I hold
the opinion that Cori Wasserman is a malicious, abusive, and

dishonest

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individual and should never be trusted. It's acknowledged that

abusers

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and predators will not leave people alone when told to do so; the

word

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"no" does not exist in their vocabulary.

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AN ADDMISSION OF HARASSMENT IS ABOVE! Griffin has stated: "I have
flamed Wasserman to kingdom come..."

"Admission of harassment"? From Usenet flames? LOL!
How does the cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan categorise it's

own

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behavior?

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.usenet/msg/9a7e0e87ebf01b12

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^ Read it and weep asshole

I read your crap, but no "gothic tears" for me, though...

I ripped yours and Sullivan's lies apart.

Thanks for proving you are a meritless liar in denial, Cori Wasserman.

Read the above and weep, liar.

DRKDOVE70

2005-05-24 03:04:32 UTC

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I read your crap, but no "gothic tears" for me, though...

I expect no tear you,sociopaths don't feel

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I ripped yours and Sullivan's lies apart.

I never lied

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Thanks for proving you are a meritless liar in denial, Cori

Wasserman.

I proved the opposite
Truth is truth you can't change it drucken rants
sorryhttp://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.usenet/msg/9a7e0e87ebf01b12

CW

Mari-Mac

2005-05-24 02:45:04 UTC

DRKDOVE70 wrote:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.usenet/msg/9a7e0e87ebf01b12

Post by DRKDOVE70
^ Read it and weep asshole
CW

Don't worry about Pymp, Cori. That whole entire spew he laid out was
his own sick obsession. Just you go relax and have fun and let pym's
own mind eat him alive. You can see by the length of his postings and
the amount of effort he is putting into his nonsense of how it's all
controlling his life and it has been for about the last 6 months. He's
sick, has been for years. Anyway, you are taller than he is! :-)

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-24 05:49:24 UTC

Serial cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan gets it's accessory to
play the "denial of facts" game with it:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.usenet/msg/9a7e0e87ebf01b12

Post by DRKDOVE70
^ Read it and weep asshole
CW

Don't worry about Pymp, Cori. That whole entire spew he laid out was
his own sick obsession.

The "Magnus Pym FUQ" is Patrick Michael Sullivan's own sick obession of
stupid bullshit that makes the Sullivan kook look even madder than it
is.

Post by Mari-Mac
Just you go relax and have fun and let pym's
own mind eat him alive.

Yup, that's the Patrick Michael Sullivan cyber stalker motto in a
nutshell; find someone it can taunt and stalk and then make their real
life hell.

Post by Mari-Mac
You can see by the length of his postings and
the amount of effort he is putting into his nonsense of how it's all
controlling his life and it has been for about the last 6 months.

Yep, that's the cyber stalker Sullivan; really getting it's sick,
perverted pleasure out of defaming and lying about people.

Post by Mari-Mac
He's
sick, has been for years. Anyway, you are taller than he is! :-)

What sort of sick minds would be prepared to create the perverted sort
of lies that Cori Wasserman and Patrick Michael Sullivan did, and do?

Why are Sullivan and Wasserman so afraid of the truth about themselves?

Heywood Jablomi

2005-05-24 06:16:16 UTC

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Why are Sullivan and Wasserman so afraid of the truth about themselves?

because they dont have the guts to slit their wrists and end the misery

DRKDOVE70

2005-05-24 06:54:38 UTC

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Why are Sullivan and Wasserman so afraid of the truth about

themselves?

I have no fear of truth

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because they dont have the guts to slit their wrists and end the misery

Have you ever tryed to slit your wrist very unreliable method. Ask the
many who've tried it.
Trust me when I'm sure whatever trails no pun intended god has but in
my way to test me have ended and no more loved ones to fight for I have
much more certain methods planned.
Cori

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-24 07:29:06 UTC

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Why are Sullivan and Wasserman so afraid of the truth about

themselves?
I have no fear of truth

Yes, you do.

I didn't accuse you of doing anything you did not do.

You posted that kid's name.

You didn't repost what SCP posted because the spelling of the surname
was different. Two other posters recognised that name you posted as
being the kid's name. Those posters had no affection for SCP either and
they would have chewed her out if she had done it first.

You scared the hell out of that kid.

Why do you deny doing these things?

And you and Wiser scared LuXx to the point where she was about to make
an attempt. She was very sensitive to the written word and all that
crap about "death threats" scared the crap out of her. She was very
dear to me, and you and Wiser hurt her. That made me very pissed off
with you. Posting the kid's name was the last straw.

Why did you lie and state I threatened to kill you, and other rubbish,
like I posted as "Trent" and other crap?

Do you get a kick out of hurting people? Do you get a kick out of
getting people angry with you? What is it with you?

I have no problem facing any charges you want to bring against me,
because I know they are totally false. Sullivan says there is a file
number; what is it?

If you are found to have made a frivolous or false complaint, be aware
it is a felony in New York. You are a sick woman and I have no interest
in suing sick people.

DRKDOVE70

2005-05-24 08:31:21 UTC

Post by Heywood Jablomi
In article

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Why are Sullivan and Wasserman so afraid of the truth about

themselves?
I have no fear of truth

You posted that kid's name.

SCP posted it first with the email addy,God man scroll down and check
the dates.
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/news.admin.net-abuse.usenet/msg/9a7e0e87ebf01b12

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You didn't repost what SCP posted because the spelling of the surname
was different.

The name SCP posted was correct I may have screwed up the lettering a
little I am dislexic

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You scared the hell out of that kid.

The kid should have been scared at the time he lied to a news group he
should have never been in to begin with. If ASH is truely connected to
the original Xanthia site or to ASBS is there not a warning these
topics are of an adult nature. Or are you just a fan of 16yrs old being
actually suicidal.

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And you and Wiser scared LuXx to the point where she was about to make
an attempt. She was very sensitive to the written word and all that
crap about "death threats" scared the crap out of her.

She made death threats in juest when actual death threats were flying
all around the news group. But we made up soon after.And had a laught
over it.

She was very

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dear to me, and you and Wiser hurt her.

I will not speak for Doug but Luxx did tell me you came out to see her
and defamed the way she looked because of her cutting. This really hurt
her I'm sure worse than I did.

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Posting the kid's name was the last straw.

If seeing peoples names posted bothers you so much why do you post
people names and adresses and phone #'s

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Why did you lie and state I threatened to kill you, and other

rubbish,

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like I posted as "Trent" and other crap?

Doug is convinced you were Trent,I am convinced you have so many
addy's you could just as easily been Trent.

And if you are not the person calling and threatening me in the middle
of the night with the Aussie acecnt who is???

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Do you get a kick out of hurting people?

Not at all I think people get a kick out of hurting me.

Actually I have a tend to make people feel better. Some even have
claimed I saved there lives.

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If you are found to have made a frivolous or false complaint, be aware
it is a felony in New York.

I have no desire to do that unless the state starts giving out lethal
injections for the above.

The police do have a statment from me in the form of a harrassement
claim and a copy of all your threats via the net though.

You are a sick woman and I have no interest

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in suing sick people.

Then why claim you are going to sue a woman who has PTSD,Acute Atipical
Depression,Liver Disease and Fibromayalgia with Chronic Fatigue Auto
Immune Disoder.

Mari-Mac

2005-05-28 14:40:53 UTC

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there is a file
number; what is it?

Shut up, insect...

There is a file. She has a witness to that fact. But she won't be
posting the file number on ASH so you can flood it with your usual
crap, Robert. Nor should other people be posting their file numbers.
People aren't stoopid like you, like when you bragged about Doug's file
and the file in Canada and the names of people you contacted in AU
etc..

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If you are found to have made a frivolous or false complaint, be aware
it is a felony in New York.

I'd be damn careful in NYC, bobby boi... They hate terrorists there.

I hope you get locked up, Robert, I sincerely hope you do after all you
did to people here. I hope you get 8 years in jail, you stalking freak,
you ko0k

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Queensland

CRIMINAL CODE

(STALKING) AMENDMENT

ACT 1999

Act No. 18 of 1999

Queensland

CRIMINAL CODE (STALKING)

AMENDMENT ACT 1999

TABLE OF PROVISIONS

Section Page

PART 1—PRELIMINARY

1 Short title . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4

PART 2—AMENDMENT OF CRIMINAL CODE

2 Code amended in pt 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4

3 Replacement of s 359A (Unlawful stalking) . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . 4

CHAPTER 33A—UNLAWFUL STALKING

359A Definitions for ch 33A . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4

359B What is unlawful stalking . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6

359C What is immaterial for unlawful stalking . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . 7

359D Particular conduct that is not unlawful stalking . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . 7

359E Punishment of unlawful stalking . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . 8

359F Court may restrain unlawful stalking . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . 8

4 Insertion of new ch and pt headings . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9

5 Insertion of new ch 72 pt 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10

PART 2—TRANSITIONAL PROVISION FOR THE CRIMINAL

CODE (STALKING) AMENDMENT ACT 1999

709 Transitional—Criminal Code (Stalking) Amendment Act 1999 . . . 10

PART 3—MISCELLANEOUS

6 Acts amended in schedule . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10

SCHEDULE . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11

MINOR CONSEQUENTIAL AMENDMENTS

TRANSPORT OPERATIONS (PASSENGER TRANSPORT)

ACT 1994 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11

TRANSPORT OPERATIONS (ROAD USE MANAGEMENT)

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ACT 1995 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11

Queensland

Criminal Code (Stalking) Amendment Act

Act No. 18 of 1999

An Act to amend the Criminal Code, and for other purposes

[Assented to 30 April 1999]

s 1 4

Criminal Code (Stalking) Amendment

s 3

No. 18, 1999

The Parliament of Queensland enacts—

†PART 1—PRELIMINARY

˙Short title

1. This Act may be cited as the Criminal Code (Stalking) Amendment Act

1999.

†PART 2—AMENDMENT OF CRIMINAL CODE

˙Code amended in pt 2

2. This part amends the Criminal Code.

˙Replacement of s 359A (Unlawful stalking)

3. Section 359A—

omit, insert—

†‘CHAPTER 33A—UNLAWFUL STALKING

˙‘Definitions for ch 33A

‘359A. In this chapter—

“circumstances” means the following circumstances—

(a) the alleged stalker’s circumstances;

(b) the circumstances of the stalked person known, foreseen or

reasonably foreseeable by the alleged stalker;

(c) the circumstances surrounding the unlawful stalking;

(d) any other relevant circumstances.

“detriment” includes the following—

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No. 18, 1999

(a) apprehension or fear of violence to, or against property of, the

stalked person or another person;

(b) serious mental, psychological or emotional harm;

(c) prevention or hindrance from doing an act a person is lawfully

entitled to do;

(d) compulsion to do an act a person is lawfully entitled to abstain

from doing.

Examples of paragraph (c)—

A person no longer walks outside the person’s place of residence or
employment.

A person significantly changes the route or form of transport the
person would

ordinarily use to travel to work or other places.

Example of paragraph (d)—

A person sells a property the person would not otherwise sell.

“property”, of a person, means—

(a) property in which the person has an interest,1 whether or not the

defendant also has an interest in the property; or

(b) property that is otherwise—

(i) used and enjoyed by the person; or

(ii) available for the person’s use or enjoyment; or

(iii) in the person’s care or custody; or

(iv) at the premises at which the person is residing.

“stalked person” see section 359B.

“unlawful stalking” see section 359B.

1 The Acts Interpretation Act 1954, section 36 defines “interest”,
in relation to land

or other property, as meaning—

‘(a) a legal or equitable estate in the land or other property; or

(b) a right, power or privilege over, or in relation to, the land or
other

property.’.

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s 3

No. 18, 1999

“violence”—

(a) does not include any force or impact within the limits of what is

acceptable as incidental to social interaction or to life in the

community; and

(b) against a person includes an act depriving a person of liberty; and

(c) against property includes an act of damaging, destroying,

removing, using or interfering with the property.

˙‘What is unlawful stalking

‘359B. “Unlawful stalking” is conduct—

(a) intentionally directed at a person (the “stalked person”); and

(b) engaged in on any 1 occasion if the conduct is protracted or on

more than 1 occasion; and

(c) consisting of 1 or more acts of the following, or a similar,
type—

(i) following, loitering near, watching or approaching a person;

(ii) contacting a person in any way, including, for example, by

telephone, mail, fax, e-mail or through the use of any

technology;

(iii) loitering near, watching, approaching or entering a place

where a person lives, works or visits;

(iv) leaving offensive material where it will be found by, given to

or brought to the attention of, a person;

(v) giving offensive material to a person, directly or indirectly;

(vi) an intimidating, harassing or threatening act against a person,

whether or not involving violence or a threat of violence;

(vii) an act of violence, or a threat of violence, against, or against

property of, anyone, including the defendant; and

(d) that—

(i) would cause the stalked person apprehension or fear,

reasonably arising in all the circumstances, of violence to, or

against property of, the stalked person or another person; or

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No. 18, 1999

(ii) causes detriment, reasonably arising in all the circumstances,

to the stalked person or another person.

˙‘What is immaterial for unlawful stalking

‘359C.(1) For section 359B(a), it is immaterial whether the person
doing

the unlawful stalking—

(a) intends that the stalked person be aware the conduct is directed at

the stalked person; or

(b) has a mistaken belief about the identity of the person at whom the

conduct is intentionally directed.

‘(2) For section 359B(a) and (c), it is immaterial whether the
conduct

directed at the stalked person consists of conduct carried out in
relation to

another person or property of another person.

‘(3) For section 359B(b), it is immaterial whether the conduct
throughout

the occasion on which the conduct is protracted, or the conduct on each
of a

number of occasions, consists of the same or different acts.

‘(4) For section 359B(d), it is immaterial whether the person doing
the

unlawful stalking intended to cause the apprehension or fear, or the

detriment, mentioned in the section.

‘(5) For section 359B(d)(i), it is immaterial whether the
apprehension or

fear, or the violence, mentioned in the section is actually caused.

˙‘Particular conduct that is not unlawful stalking

‘359D. “Unlawful stalking” does not include the following acts—

(a) acts done in the execution of a law or administration of an Act or

for a purpose authorised by an Act;

(b) acts done for the purposes of a genuine industrial dispute;

(c) acts done for the purposes of a genuine political or other genuine

public dispute or issue carried on in the public interest;

(d) reasonable conduct engaged in by a person for the person’s

lawful trade, business or occupation;

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No. 18, 1999

(e) reasonable conduct engaged in by a person to obtain or give

information that the person has a legitimate interest in obtaining

or giving.

˙‘Punishment of unlawful stalking

‘359E.(1) A person who unlawfully stalks another person is guilty of
a

crime.

‘(2) A person who commits the crime of unlawful stalking is liable to
a

maximum penalty of imprisonment for 5 years.

‘(3) However, a person is liable to a maximum penalty of imprisonment

for 7 years if, for any of the acts constituting the unlawful stalking,
the

person—

(a) uses or intentionally threatens to use, violence against anyone or

anyone’s property; or

(b) possesses a weapon within the meaning of the Weapons Act

1990; or

(c) contravenes or intentionally threatens to contravene an injunction

or order imposed or made by a court or tribunal under a law of

the Commonwealth or a State.

˙‘Court may restrain unlawful stalking

‘359F.(1) This section applies on the hearing before a court of a
charge

against a person of unlawful stalking.

‘(2) Whether the person is found guilty or not guilty or the
prosecution

ends in another way, if the presiding judge or magistrate considers it

desirable, the judge or magistrate may constitute the court to consider

whether a restraining order should be made against the person.

‘(3) The judge or magistrate may act under subsection (2) on
application

by the Crown or an interested person or on the judge’s or
magistrate’s own

initiative.

‘(4) Also, if the restraining order proceeding is started before the

Supreme Court or the District Court, the court may order the proceeding
to

be transferred to a Magistrates Court.

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s 4

No. 18, 1999

‘(5) If a court makes an order under subsection (4), the registrar of
the

court must send to the clerk of the relevant Magistrates Court a copy
of the

order and the record of proceedings of the hearing of the charge and
any

application mentioned in subsection (3).

‘(6) The court hearing the restraining order proceeding may make a

restraining order against the person in relation to any person or any
property

if it considers it desirable to do so having regard to the evidence
given at the

hearing of the charge and any application under subsection (3) and any

further evidence the court may admit.

‘(7) A restraining order may be varied or revoked at any time by the

court, and, if the order provides, by another court.

‘(8) A person who knowingly contravenes a restraining order commits

an offence.

Maximum penalty—40 penalty units or 1 year’s imprisonment.

‘(9) A restraining order may be made against a person whether or not

another order is made against the person in the proceeding for the
charge.

‘(10) A restraining order proceeding is not a criminal proceeding.

‘(11) A question of fact for a decision under subsection (2) and in a

restraining order proceeding must be decided on the balance of
probabilities.

‘(12) In this section—

“charge” means the charge of unlawful stalking mentioned in

subsection (1).

“restraining order” against a person means any order considered

appropriate for the purpose of prohibiting particular conduct,
including,

for example, contact for a stated period by the person with a stated

person or the property of a stated person.

“restraining order proceeding” means a proceeding started under

subsection (2).’.

˙Insertion of new ch and pt headings

4. After section 707—

insert—

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s 6

No. 18, 1999

‘CHAPTER 72—TRANSITIONAL PROVISIONS

‘PART 1—TRANSITIONAL PROVISION FOR THE

COURTS REFORM AMENDMENT ACT 1997’.

˙Insertion of new ch 72 pt 2

5. After section 708—

insert—

†‘PART 2—TRANSITIONAL PROVISION FOR THE

CRIMINAL CODE (STALKING) AMENDMENT ACT

1999

˙‘Transitional—Criminal Code (Stalking) Amendment Act 1999

‘709. On a charge of unlawful stalking committed after the

commencement of the Criminal Code (Stalking) Amendment Act 1999 (the

“commencement”), evidence of an act described in section 359B(c)
done

before the commencement may be admitted for the purpose of deciding

whether an act done after the commencement constituted unlawful

stalking.’.

†PART 3—MISCELLANEOUS

˙Acts amended in schedule

6. The schedule amends the Acts it mentions.

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Criminal Code (Stalking) Amendment No. 18, 1999

¡SCHEDULE

†MINOR CONSEQUENTIAL AMENDMENTS

section 6

´TRANSPORT OPERATIONS (PASSENGER

TRANSPORT) ACT 1994

1. Schedule 1, part 1—

insert—

‘11A. Section 359E (Punishment of unlawful stalking)’.

´TRANSPORT OPERATIONS (ROAD USE

MANAGEMENT) ACT 1995

1. Schedule 1, part 1—

insert—

‘9A. Section 359E (Punishment of unlawful stalking)’.

Ó State of Queensland 1999

~ vera ~

2005-05-28 15:01:37 UTC

Please stop this.

Love,

~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Requiscant In Pace

2005-05-28 15:10:42 UTC

Post by ~ vera ~
Please stop this.
Love,
~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Vera,

It's not going to stop any time soon. You'll notice that Griffin made
that post on May 24 and even though he hasn't said much since then,
Patrick just had to respond four days later in an effort to drag
Griffin back into the fray. That's your friend for ya.

~RIP~

Mari-Mac

2005-05-28 15:30:43 UTC

Post by ~ vera ~
Please stop this.
Love,
~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Vera,
It's not going to stop any time soon. You'll notice that Griffin made
that post on May 24 and even though he hasn't said much since then,
Patrick just had to respond four days later in an effort to drag
Griffin back into the fray. That's your friend for ya.

You have no friends, Grace. Even your bird hates you now. I now know
why you slept with Griffin - it's because you two are both birds of a
feather.

Requiscant In Pace

2005-05-28 16:18:51 UTC

Post by ~ vera ~
Please stop this.
Love,
~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Vera,
It's not going to stop any time soon. You'll notice that Griffin made
that post on May 24 and even though he hasn't said much since then,
Patrick just had to respond four days later in an effort to drag
Griffin back into the fray. That's your friend for ya.

You have no friends, Grace. Even your bird hates you now. I now know
why you slept with Griffin - it's because you two are both birds of a
feather.

LMAO. You are such a hateful person. Actually, Pat-hon, I have
several close friends, live with someone that cares about me a great
deal (we've been together for about 1.5 years now, live with my
children, own my own home now, have a good job that allows me to make a
decent amount of money and things are pretty much okay today.

It's a real shame that you have turned out like this. Yes, we used to
be able to talk about actual issues at one time. However, your hate
and obsession seems to have taken over any part of you that was still
human. It's sad.

~RIP~

Mari-Mac

2005-05-29 02:41:13 UTC

Post by ~ vera ~
Please stop this.
Love,
~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Vera,
It's not going to stop any time soon. You'll notice that Griffin made
that post on May 24 and even though he hasn't said much since then,
Patrick just had to respond four days later in an effort to drag
Griffin back into the fray. That's your friend for ya.

You have no friends, Grace. Even your bird hates you now. I now know
why you slept with Griffin - it's because you two are both birds of a
feather.

LMAO. You are such a hateful person.

No I'm not. But you did say, "That's your friend for ya." And that was
not nice.

Post by Requiscant In Pace
Actually, Pat-hon, I have
several close friends, live with someone that cares about me a great
deal (we've been together for about 1.5 years now, live with my
children, own my own home now, have a good job that allows me to make a
decent amount of money and things are pretty much okay today.

I'm happy for you, Grace.

Post by Requiscant In Pace
It's a real shame that you have turned out like this. Yes, we used to
be able to talk about actual issues at one time.

That's odd. Just the other day you said it was bad judgment that you
talked with me previously.

Post by Requiscant In Pace
However, your hate
and obsession seems to have taken over any part of you that was still
human. It's sad.

I don't hate anything or anyone. And I am not obsessed. I hope this
clears the record.

Post by Requiscant In Pace
~RIP~

But you stole TKC's squiggly lines "~ ~".

I wish you peace and happiness.

--
An only child, alone and wild, a cabinet maker's son
His hands were meant for different work
And his heart was known to none
He left his home, and went his lone, and solitary way
And he gave to me a gift I know I never can repay

A quiet man of music, denied a simpler fate
He tried to be a soldier once, but his music wouldn't wait
He earned his love through discipline, a thundering velvet hand
His gentle means of sculpting souls, took me years to understand

The leader of the band is tired
And his eyes are growing old
But his blood runs through my instrument
And his song is in my soul

My life has been a poor attempt, to imitate the man
I'm just a living legacy, to the leader of the band

My brothers' lives were different, for they heard another call
One went to Chicago, and the other to St. Paul
And I'm in Colorado, when I'm not in some hotel
Living out this life I've chose, and come to know so well

I thank you for the music, and your stories of the road
I thank you for the freedom, when it came my time to go
I thank you for the kindness, and the times when you got tough
And, papa, I don't think I said "I love you" near enough...

The leader of the band is tired
And his eyes are growing old
But his blood runs through my instrument
And his song is in my soul

My life has been a poor attempt to imitate the man
I'm just a living legacy to the leader of the band
I am the living legacy to the leader of the band...

-- Dan Fogelberg "Leader Of The Band"

Mari-Mac

2005-05-28 15:44:51 UTC

Post by ~ vera ~
Please stop this.
Love,
~ vera ~

Well, it 90 degrees here in the shade and much hotter in the sun. And I
have to go mix and pour concrete for the next 8 hours - yee haw!

Vera, I hear what you are saying. But Griffin stated that he just
wanted to be left in peace. He wanted to "out" all of us (real names,
addresses, ph. #s etc.) then leave and go and be happy while the rest
of us wonder if the reason we did not get that job is because some
employer GOOGLED our name and the thought "What the f*&^ is this shit?"
and never hired us. Look what he did to Lou? What the hell did Lou do
that was so wrong that Lou has to wonder for the rest of his life if
Griff's postings are going to come back at him, or same for the rest of
us. This is not acceptable.

Please call me later. I received all your emails and we can talk away
from ASH. I will be in around 5 PM my time. I know you mean well. But
Griff is evil and he needs to be held accountable for all he did to
everyone here on ASH.

And keep in mind, as a friend told me via email, that Griff has a way
of infecting friendships between people here. So if you find yourself
arguing with others here over this, then recognize it's just his evil.
And Griff will laugh to see this happen to you and to others. We are
talking of true evil here.

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-28 16:17:47 UTC

Post by ~ vera ~
Please stop this.
Love,
~ vera ~

Well, it 90 degrees here in the shade and much hotter in the sun. And I
have to go mix and pour concrete for the next 8 hours - yee haw!

You have not to apologize for having posted and spoke your mind, Mari
Mac.
Vera and Grace are wrong telling you to stop posting and stop posting
your opinions. You have a right to do that as everybody else.

Post by Mari-Mac
Vera, I hear what you are saying. But Griffin stated that he just
wanted to be left in peace.

Yes, he is saying that, but while he is saying that, "poor suicidal
victim" (in Vera's eyes) files one false report about the other with
maliciously false information about me and Patrick Sullivan to all
kinds of authorities. And when we find the loads of evidence of his
criminal activities, we are not allowed to post that? I am being told
by Vera that she loves me, but when you read her posting, she makes me
to the bad person and Griffin to the innocent victim. Thanks a lot, I
do not want such "love". It is not honest. What kind of justice! That
is like defending Judas.

Post by Mari-Mac
He wanted to "out" all of us (real names,
addresses, ph. #s etc.) then leave and go and be happy while the rest
of us wonder if the reason we did not get that job is because some
employer GOOGLED our name and the thought "What the f*&^ is this shit?"
and never hired us. Look what he did to Lou? What the hell did Lou do
that was so wrong that Lou has to wonder for the rest of his life if
Griff's postings are going to come back at him, or same for the rest of
us. This is not acceptable.

Yes, I forgot to mention how Griffin, the "poor suicidal victim"
stalked Louis. Did Griffin not file one false complaint after the other
to the FBI about him? Once again for all of you, false complaints filed
to authorities is wasting governmental resources and is a felony! And
Vera just does want to forgive felonies?

Post by Mari-Mac
Please call me later. I received all your emails and we can talk away
from ASH. I will be in around 5 PM my time. I know you mean well. But
Griff is evil and he needs to be held accountable for all he did to
everyone here on ASH.

Yes, the reason why the Christians did not create a better world within
2000 years is because they pamper the criminals and the innocent people
are not being defended and protected.

Post by Mari-Mac
And keep in mind, as a friend told me via email, that Griff has a way
of infecting friendships between people here.

He is like a snake. He sure got into Vera's system. She completely fell
for that guy.

Post by Mari-Mac
So if you find yourself
arguing with others here over this, then recognize it's just his evil.
And Griff will laugh to see this happen to you and to others. We are
talking of true evil here.

That is so true. I am sure he is grinning like the fox in the henhouse
over how Vera took his side.

Well, I don't need her. All I need is evidence, the 26 false complaints
that fanatical anti-free speech nut Griffin filed, and I will also get
those which he filed earlier and those that he filed to other
authorities.
Griffin does not need to be forgiven, he needs to be held accountable.

Barbara Schwarz

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-28 18:38:52 UTC

Barbara Schwarz is so utterly insane and psychotic she spews lie after
lie on a daily basis that she can't keep track of them.

Barbara Schwarz, in addition to be a convicted thief (arrested by Salt
Lake City Police and sentenced by the criminal court for theft) is a
well-established delusional kook who will say anything to draw
attention to herself.

She is a FOIA terrorist; a mental patient who spent over five years
incarcerated in the Utah State Psychiatric Hospital in Provo, Utah and
has long refused to follow her doctor's instructions to take the very
medications that prevent her from living with grandiose delusions and
suffering psychotic breaks.

She is hated by all who comes in contact with her in Utah and no one
believes a word she has to say about anything...she is a very angry,
bitter woman who posted very hateful & hostile comments about her
mother, the very parent that financially supported her for years,
because Barbara Schwarz is far too mentally ill to hold a job and
support herself.

Schwarz is a monumental liar who claims to be a Scientologist and that
any Scientologists critical of her are either infiltrators or spies.
Many of her comments are proof that Schwarz suffers from paranoid
schizophrenia.

Barbara Schwarz is a laughable mental space case... a whining, bag of
hot air to be laughed at and ignored as absolutely having absolutely
nothing worthwhile to offer anyone.

Analytical Publications

2005-05-28 20:47:22 UTC

Post by Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz is so utterly insane and psychotic she spews lie after
lie on a daily basis that she can't keep track of them.

This above posting was not made by Barbara Schwarz or Marty Rathbun or
Mark de Rothschild. It is a forgery of vulgar and criminal Garry
Scarff. He posts through Earthlink, Barbara Schwarz not. And she is no
liar. Scarff is.

Joblesss bum and Earthlink terrorist and death treat maker and cross
dresser Garry Lynn Scarff from Hollywood California hates, harasses,
stalks and lies about Barbara Schwarz because she does not want him and
he never will get a chance with her. LAPD investigates Scarff currently
under case no: 04-4693. He is lying that this case against him is
dismissed. Ask him to post the letter of dismissal. If the criminal
investigation indeed would be dismissed, the LAPD would provide him
with a letter of dismissal. But he continues to commit crimes against
federal and state laws. They can't let him come away.

Call the Salt Lake City jail or the Provo Mental Hospital: Barbara
Schwarz was never in them. Scarff is criminally fabricating that.

If you ask me, Scarff is beyond his snapping point. One day he will
board Greyhound and harm her or kill her.

http://www.webelievers.com/26838-Open-Letter-to-Episcopal-Church-Rev-Frank-Griswold-and-other-executives.html

Post by Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz, in addition to be a convicted thief (arrested by Salt
Lake City Police and sentenced by the criminal court for theft) is a
well-established delusional kook who will say anything to draw
attention to herself.
She is a FOIA terrorist; a mental patient who spent over five years
incarcerated in the Utah State Psychiatric Hospital in Provo, Utah and
has long refused to follow her doctor's instructions to take the very
medications that prevent her from living with grandiose delusions and
suffering psychotic breaks.
She is hated by all who comes in contact with her in Utah and no one
believes a word she has to say about anything...she is a very angry,
bitter woman who posted very hateful & hostile comments about her
mother, the very parent that financially supported her for years,
because Barbara Schwarz is far too mentally ill to hold a job and
support herself.
Schwarz is a monumental liar who claims to be a Scientologist and that
any Scientologists critical of her are either infiltrators or spies.
Many of her comments are proof that Schwarz suffers from paranoid
schizophrenia.
Barbara Schwarz is a laughable mental space case... a whining, bag of
hot air to be laughed at and ignored as absolutely having absolutely
nothing worthwhile to offer anyone.

~ vera ~

2005-05-28 23:29:55 UTC

Post by Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz is

Please stop this.

~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ~
~ http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Growing-Deeper ~
~ http://www.e-sword.net ~

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-28 23:38:51 UTC

Post by Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz is

Please stop this.
~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I don't want you to speak for me, Vera, Griffin and Scarff are laughing
their heads off about your "peace" attempts anyway. They are career
criminals, they need jail, not an overzealous and intolerant to other
religions kind of person.

I found something interesting. You do the same like Caberta does in
regards of SCN.

I read in a website that Caberta is proud to be called Goebbels. She
apparently said that to the press. So, not much has changed in Germany
since I had to flee it.

Barbara Schwarz

www.religousfreedomwatch.org
URSULA CABERTA (continued)
On January 14, 2003, the Hamburg Administrative Court issued a
preliminary injunction prohibiting the Interior Ministry from allowing
Caberta from repeating certain public statements of a false and
derogatory character about the Church of Scientology.

The Churches brought the case on the grounds that Caberta should be
restrained as she has blatantly violated her duty of neutrality as a
government employee - evidenced by her having personally received on
June 26, 2000 a sum of $75,000 from a private individual who at that
time was funding anti-Scientology litigation in the United States.

Under German law, a government employee may be sentenced for up to
three years if the individual accepts an advantage for oneself in
exchange for the execution of an official function on another's
behalf. A penal investigation regarding this matter resulted in Ms.
Caberta being fined 7,500 euros in June 2002. The Ministry apparently
made no requirement that Caberta pay back the money: Nor did it
restrain her due to the obvious conflict in any way.

The Hamburg Administrative Court, in its January 14, 2003 decision,
found the loan and the circumstances under which it was given
constituted a violation of neutrality. Caberta, the Court noted, "has
not shown the slightest indication that she understands the
inadmissibility of the acceptance of private financial support under
the legal provisions for how official duties should be conducted."

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About Gmail terrorist stalker Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-29 04:01:22 UTC

Coherent translation from The Schizophrenic:
blah..blah...blah...blah...blah..

Barbara Schwarz is a laughable mental space case... a whining, bag of
hot air to be laughed at and ignored as having absolutely nothing
worthwhile to offer anyone.

Analytical Publications

2005-05-29 21:37:53 UTC

Post by About Gmail terrorist stalker Barbara Schwarz
blah..blah...blah...blah...blah..
Barbara Schwarz is a laughable mental space case... a whining, bag of
hot air to be laughed at and ignored as having absolutely nothing
worthwhile to offer anyone.

This above posting was not made by Barbara Schwarz or Marty Rathbun or
Mark de Rothschild. It is a forgery of vulgar and criminal Garry
Scarff. He posts through Earthlink, Barbara Schwarz not.

Scarff also forges now a person who was the first person to post with
author name "Spacetraveler". Scarff posts with wohega and Garry in his
e-mail address.

Joblesss bum and Earthlink terrorist and death treat maker and cross
dresser Garry Lynn Scarff from Hollywood California hates, harasses,
stalks and lies about Barbara Schwarz because she does not want him and
he never will get a chance with her. LAPD investigates Scarff currently
under case no: 04-4693. He is lying that this case against him is
dismissed. Ask him to post the letter of dismissal. If the criminal
investigation indeed would be dismissed, the LAPD would provide him
with a letter of dismissal. But he continues to commit crimes against
federal and state laws. They can't let him come away.

Call the Salt Lake City jail or the Provo Mental Hospital: Barbara
Schwarz was never in them. Scarff is criminally fabricating that.

If you ask me, Scarff is beyond his snapping point. One day he will
board Greyhound and harm her or kill her.

http://www.webelievers.com/26838-Open-Letter-to-Episcopal-Church-Rev-Frank-Griswold-and-other-executives.html

Meifumado

2005-05-29 23:02:15 UTC

what does this thread have to do with ASH?
why is it cross-posted to so many places?

Pete

Post by About Gmail terrorist stalker Barbara Schwarz
blah..blah...blah...blah...blah..

m***@yahoo.com

2005-05-30 01:21:12 UTC

Post by Meifumado
what does this thread have to do with ASH?
why is it cross-posted to so many places?
Pete

Post by About Gmail terrorist stalker Barbara Schwarz
blah..blah...blah...blah...blah..

--
Not a damn thing. Groups have to constantly snip these intentional
harassing posts from their groups and type in alt.usenet.kooks on the
followup line and send it back to the flamers. Only when the groups are
dilligent will the morons get the message.

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-28 16:00:41 UTC

Post by ~ vera ~
Please stop this.
Love,
~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Vera, you want to make peace in this newsgroup or other newsgroups
because you say you are a Christian. While I am absolutely for peace, I
am against the way you pamper the lawless harasser and cyber stalker
Griffin and the way you try to blame Patrick and me. Is that your kind
of justice? He sure wrapped you around his little finger and grins
about how gullible you are.

Griffin's girlfriend posted that Griffin did not post here for days. We
don't know that as he is known to posts with lots of sock puppets.
However, it is not about posting alone. That rotten man files false
complaints to authorities to deny other people their free speech.
Filing false charges to authotities are felonies. You can't forgive
felonies that is against the law.

Vera, it appears to me that you want me to be the bad guy because I am
a Scientologist. You seem to be poisoned against my religion as so many
Germans are. Germany is traditional in harassing other religions and
persecuting them. You wrote that you were accused on Usenet of being a
cultist or even a cult-leader but you say that this is not true. How
come you don't imagine that L. Ron Hubbard and Scientologists are
similarly defamed?

Once again: Google the names Barbara Schwarz+Patrick Sullivan, google
the name Barbara Schwarz+Robert Griffin, google name Doug Wiser+Robert
Griffin, google name Robert Griffin+Patrick Sullivan, google Robert
Griffin+Karin Spaink, and go to the first postings that were made. Then
you see who started it, and that is was your "poor suicidal victim" Bob
Griffin and not Doug, his wife (who never posted but was maliciously
defamed by Griffin) Patrick or I.

And the worst of all, Griffin did not stop. I posted this thread
because I got now evidence of Griffins criminal activities against me
and Patrick from the U of U. I will provide Patrick with everything he
needs to make his case against the man, and an affidavit. I am offended
by your prior posting making suggestions that these documents do not
exist. I am no liar. Griffin is.

Posting is not the entire world, Vera and Grace. There is also the real
world out there. And when defamer, harasser and false complaint maker
Griffin does not post, he files "high priority" false reports to
authorities with malicious lies and attacks against people.

Griffin does not just file these false reports on his own behalf, no,
he goes to ARS and defends the anti-religious extremists. Check these
lawless folks out and the official documents that prove how deep in
troubles they are with the law. www.religiousfreedomwach.org He even
speaks for cyber stalker and forger and death threat maker Scarff. He
does not want me to defend myself against that man, despite it is none
of Griffin's business at all.

You say you do not want to take sides, but you do. Mari Mac has the
same right to post here like anybody else. I am glad that you are no
judge, Vera, as that would be very sad and painful for the innocent.

Barbara Schwarz

h***@yahoo.com.au

2005-06-06 16:18:06 UTC

Barbara, it is good what you say to Vera.
She is a goodie goodie christian and thinks if everybody loves Jesus
that is all that matters and the world will be perfect, and people like
her have such closed minds they can't even begin to accept that
reincarnation might be true.
However, I am more sceptical myself and think there may be something in
scientology after all, but not because Tom Cruise is a scientologist or
Kirsty Alley. No, the reason I say it is because of what William R.
Lynne says that, "If it wasn't true, it wouldn't be suppressed".
Yes, I note there is a lot of suppression around scientology and just
the mention of the word is enough to bring emotive outbursts and
stories of deaths, extortion, black magic and so on. I am determined to
get to the bottom of the matter and find out the truth one day.
Your writings intrigue me and I must say for the benefit of those who
would ridicule you because you speak of unusual things beyond what is
commonly accepted, that so far you sound perfectly rational and just
because some ideas sound far fetched, this is not so great an obstacle
as I am prepared to accept alternate theories.
Let's face it, anybody who believes the official 911 story is believing
the far-fetched so they may as well believe anything, because they have
already proved they have no ability to judge fact from fantasy.

Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/conspiracy.htm

Barbara Schwarz

2005-06-06 23:47:26 UTC

Post by h***@yahoo.com.au
Barbara, it is good what you say to Vera.
She is a goodie goodie christian and thinks if everybody loves Jesus
that is all that matters and the world will be perfect, and people like
her have such closed minds they can't even begin to accept that
reincarnation might be true.

I think that Vera is no good example for a Christian as she tries to
ruin friendships between people of other religions. In order to obtain
peace on earth we need such friendships. Understand what I mean?
Tolerance is very important and Vera does not has any.

Post by h***@yahoo.com.au
However, I am more sceptical myself and think there may be something in
scientology after all, but not because Tom Cruise is a scientologist or
Kirsty Alley. No, the reason I say it is because of what William R.
Lynne says that, "If it wasn't true, it wouldn't be suppressed".

Right. That is an interesting thought. There is a proverb that says:
"Many enemies, much honor."

Post by h***@yahoo.com.au
Yes, I note there is a lot of suppression around scientology and just
the mention of the word is enough to bring emotive outbursts and
stories of deaths, extortion, black magic and so on. I am determined to
get to the bottom of the matter and find out the truth one day.

I think you will make a great job digging for the truth.

Post by h***@yahoo.com.au
Your writings intrigue me and I must say for the benefit of those who
would ridicule you because you speak of unusual things beyond what is
commonly accepted, that so far you sound perfectly rational and just
because some ideas sound far fetched, this is not so great an obstacle
as I am prepared to accept alternate theories.

Thanks, Carole. People who say new things or matters that the average
person does not are often defamed. But I guess if they would not, we
still would live in caves and believe that the earth is flat. People
are defamed often for no other reason but that others don't like their
free speech. Perhaps they are afraid to change their own horizont.

Post by h***@yahoo.com.au
Let's face it, anybody who believes the official 911 story is believing
the far-fetched so they may as well believe anything, because they have
already proved they have no ability to judge fact from fantasy.

It is not easy to find the truth in a world with so much information
but also lies, but I think it is doable to figure out and discart what
makes no sense and keep information that makes sense, Carole.

Barbara Schwarz

Post by h***@yahoo.com.au
Carole
http://www.austarmetro.com.au/~hubbca/conspiracy.htm

Barbara Schwarz

2005-06-06 23:50:47 UTC

It will take me a time to get through your website, Carole. It is quite
informative. Do you know www.datafilter.com/mc ? It is a non kooky
website about techniques and registered patents concerning mindcontrol.
The link might interest you.

Barbara Schwarz

corinne

2005-06-07 01:53:04 UTC

Post by Barbara Schwarz
It will take me a time to get through your website, Carole. It is quite
informative. Do you know www.datafilter.com/mc ? It is a non kooky
website about techniques and registered patents concerning mindcontrol.
The link might interest you.
Barbara Schwarz

---
SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOUR DISCUSSION WHICH HAS BEEN CROSS-POSTED TO
ALT.CULTURE.ALASKA.

THE TITLE IS VERY APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY. YOU SEE MY
GROUP, ALT.CULTURE.ALASKA HAS BEEN INVADED AND OCCUPIED FOR 7 MONTHS
NOW, WITH IRRELEVANT POSTS FOR OUR GROUP.

IN ADDITION, THERE HAS BEEN A FORGER WHO HAS FORGED MY I.D. AND POSTED
SOME OF THE MOST VILE POSTS FOR WHICH MY GROUP BLAMES ME.

HE THEN TOOK UP THE EFFORT TO ELIMINATE ALL OF MY POSTS BY CHANGING THE
SUBJECT TITLE AND TYPING IN "GANG CRAP", YET HE HAS LEFT THE OTHER
REGULAR ACA POSTERS ALONE AS WELL AS ALL OF THESE IRRELEVANT
CROSS-POSTS COMING FROM OTHER FLAME GROUPS.

SO, IN THE SPIRIT OF "FREE SPEECH", I AM NOW PASTING MY POSTS ON TO
EVERYBODY ELSES POSTS, SO IF MY POST IS GOING TO BE ELIMINATED SO WILL
THOSE THAT I AM PASTING MY POSTS TO. SO "MY WAR" IS NOW "YOUR WAR
ALSO", UNLESS YOU CAN HELP US IDENTIFY THIS FORGER AND GET RID OF HIM.
HE HAS MADE OVER 400 FORGERIES OF MY NAME ALONE.

YOU MIGHT EVEN LIKE MY POSTS, ESPECIALLY THIS ONE. AGAIN,
SO SORRY, BUT MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH WITHOUT HARASSMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT
TO ME. AND ALSO PLEASE EXCEPT MY APOLOGIES FOR THE CAPS, I HAVE A
PHYSICAL DISABILITY. THXS SYLVIA
--
NOTE: YOU CAN SEE THE FORGER'S POST IN THIS LINK.

Subject:JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.culture.alaska/browse_frm/thread/736bf4703a9e813b/e478fde67b533537

Barbara Schwarz

2005-06-07 02:05:01 UTC

Post by corinne

---
SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOUR DISCUSSION WHICH HAS BEEN CROSS-POSTED TO
ALT.CULTURE.ALASKA.
THE TITLE IS VERY APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY. YOU SEE MY
GROUP, ALT.CULTURE.ALASKA HAS BEEN INVADED AND OCCUPIED FOR 7 MONTHS
NOW, WITH IRRELEVANT POSTS FOR OUR GROUP.
IN ADDITION, THERE HAS BEEN A FORGER WHO HAS FORGED MY I.D. AND POSTED
SOME OF THE MOST VILE POSTS FOR WHICH MY GROUP BLAMES ME.
HE THEN TOOK UP THE EFFORT TO ELIMINATE ALL OF MY POSTS BY CHANGING THE
SUBJECT TITLE AND TYPING IN "GANG CRAP", YET HE HAS LEFT THE OTHER
REGULAR ACA POSTERS ALONE AS WELL AS ALL OF THESE IRRELEVANT
CROSS-POSTS COMING FROM OTHER FLAME GROUPS.
SO, IN THE SPIRIT OF "FREE SPEECH", I AM NOW PASTING MY POSTS ON TO
EVERYBODY ELSES POSTS, SO IF MY POST IS GOING TO BE ELIMINATED SO WILL
THOSE THAT I AM PASTING MY POSTS TO. SO "MY WAR" IS NOW "YOUR WAR
ALSO", UNLESS YOU CAN HELP US IDENTIFY THIS FORGER AND GET RID OF HIM.
HE HAS MADE OVER 400 FORGERIES OF MY NAME ALONE.
YOU MIGHT EVEN LIKE MY POSTS, ESPECIALLY THIS ONE. AGAIN,
SO SORRY, BUT MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH WITHOUT HARASSMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT
TO ME. AND ALSO PLEASE EXCEPT MY APOLOGIES FOR THE CAPS, I HAVE A
PHYSICAL DISABILITY. THXS SYLVIA
--
NOTE: YOU CAN SEE THE FORGER'S POST IN THIS LINK.
Subject:JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.culture.alaska/browse_frm/thread/736bf4703a9e813b/e478fde67b533537

Kock yourself out, Corinne or Sylvia, if it goes after me, you can post
anywhere you like to. I understand what you mean as I am forged too.
Fight back, don't let this guy stomp all over you.

Barbara Schwarz

~ vera ~

2005-06-07 02:16:21 UTC

Barbara Schwarz <***@myway.com> wrote:

<snipped off-topic spam>

Patrick

2005-06-07 02:06:03 UTC

x-no-archive: yes

BTW, I hope the weather is good on the ALASKA HWY.

--
Even Siberia goes through the motions
Hold out and hold up -
~
- Outbound, river,
- Bluetail, tailfly,
- River running right on over my head...

-YES

Post by corinne

---
SO SORRY TO INTERRUPT YOUR DISCUSSION WHICH HAS BEEN CROSS-POSTED TO
ALT.CULTURE.ALASKA.
THE TITLE IS VERY APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY. YOU SEE MY
GROUP, ALT.CULTURE.ALASKA HAS BEEN INVADED AND OCCUPIED FOR 7 MONTHS
NOW, WITH IRRELEVANT POSTS FOR OUR GROUP.
IN ADDITION, THERE HAS BEEN A FORGER WHO HAS FORGED MY I.D. AND POSTED
SOME OF THE MOST VILE POSTS FOR WHICH MY GROUP BLAMES ME.
HE THEN TOOK UP THE EFFORT TO ELIMINATE ALL OF MY POSTS BY CHANGING THE
SUBJECT TITLE AND TYPING IN "GANG CRAP", YET HE HAS LEFT THE OTHER
REGULAR ACA POSTERS ALONE AS WELL AS ALL OF THESE IRRELEVANT
CROSS-POSTS COMING FROM OTHER FLAME GROUPS.
SO, IN THE SPIRIT OF "FREE SPEECH", I AM NOW PASTING MY POSTS ON TO
EVERYBODY ELSES POSTS, SO IF MY POST IS GOING TO BE ELIMINATED SO WILL
THOSE THAT I AM PASTING MY POSTS TO. SO "MY WAR" IS NOW "YOUR WAR
ALSO", UNLESS YOU CAN HELP US IDENTIFY THIS FORGER AND GET RID OF HIM.
HE HAS MADE OVER 400 FORGERIES OF MY NAME ALONE.
YOU MIGHT EVEN LIKE MY POSTS, ESPECIALLY THIS ONE. AGAIN,
SO SORRY, BUT MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH WITHOUT HARASSMENT IS VERY IMPORTANT
TO ME. AND ALSO PLEASE EXCEPT MY APOLOGIES FOR THE CAPS, I HAVE A
PHYSICAL DISABILITY. THXS SYLVIA
--
NOTE: YOU CAN SEE THE FORGER'S POST IN THIS LINK.
Subject:JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF THE EARTH
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.culture.alaska/browse_frm/thread/736bf4703a9e813b/e478fde67b533537

Heywood Jablomi

2005-05-24 08:45:38 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Why are Sullivan and Wasserman so afraid of the truth about

themselves?
I have no fear of truth

Post by Heywood Jablomi
because they dont have the guts to slit their wrists and end the

misery
Have you ever tryed to slit your wrist very unreliable method. Ask the
many who've tried it.

Not if you do it lengthwise.

DRKDOVE70

2005-05-24 08:57:25 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Why are Sullivan and Wasserman so afraid of the truth about

themselves?
I have no fear of truth

Post by Heywood Jablomi
because they dont have the guts to slit their wrists and end the

misery
Have you ever tryed to slit your wrist very unreliable method. Ask the
many who've tried it.

Not if you do it lengthwise.

This definitly incresses your chances of dying but you would have to
get over a huge amount of pain and cut half way throught your arms into
the arteries.
Mind you if you fail to die there is usually alot of nerve damage you
may lose moblity in both or one of your arms.
But hey they are your wrists
Cori

Mari-Mac

2005-05-24 02:25:10 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
That person has agreed to testify against Sullivan in court.

KBM? Hilarious! This outta be good! :-)~

BTW, KBM can explain all his other comments that he made, you know, his
lies about island.net and TS etc.. This should be fun.

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-24 06:51:35 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
That person has agreed to testify against Sullivan in court.

KBM? Hilarious! This outta be good! :-)~
BTW, KBM can explain all his other comments that he made, you know, his
lies about island.net and TS etc.. This should be fun.

Bastinado

2005-05-25 02:15:13 UTC

Post by Mari-Mac
A: Yes, there were. Again, please see the posting from Layhieu Haser

Is Alan James Brierly of Tucson, Arizona prepared to continue to allow
his post to be used by Patrick Michael Sullivan?
Is Brierley prepared to stand by his accusations in court?
Mr. Brierly would be well advised to make a statement on this matter,
*right now.*

My statement is as follows: Lick my sweaty nutsack, Robert.

Fuckin kook.

Mari-Mac

2005-05-24 01:03:48 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber thug

and

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sulivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?
Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

All demafation and libel will be used legally against you, Griffin,

Post by Barbara Schwarz
I really have had with you defamator, spammer, libeler, harasser and
stalker.
Barbara Schwarz

cutting

Post by DRKDOVE70
,That right Patrick was the first person who ever gave a dam that while
me a former rape survior was off the deep over all these lies was
cuting herself to peices.
I'll Alway Love You Patrick
Cori Wasserman

OK, Cori. Right back at you! :-)

BTW, don't mind Pym - looks like he may have gotten drunk tonight...
;-)

ID stealer Garry Scarff is afraid of Mark Rathbun's and Tom Cruise's attorney

2005-05-24 01:26:51 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber thug

and

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sulivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?
Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

All demafation and libel will be used legally against you, Griffin,

Post by Barbara Schwarz
I really have had with you defamator, spammer, libeler, harasser and
stalker.
Barbara Schwarz

cutting

Hi Cori, thanks for posting that link. I know you had to suffer a lot
and hope you are well.

Great to see that Patrick and you are the friends that you always were.
Robert Giffin hoped otherwise, but don't let the bad boy win.

Barbara Schwarz

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-24 00:39:34 UTC

Barbara Schwarz, self-cnfessed shoplifting thief, stil acts as Patrick

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber thug

and

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sulivan
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?
Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

All demafation and libel will be used legally against you, Griffin, as
I really have had with you defamator, spammer, libeler, harasser and
stalker.

Sue me, kook.

Mari-Mac

2005-05-24 00:44:20 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Barbara Schwarz, self-cnfessed shoplifting thief, stil acts as

Patrick

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber thug

and

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sulivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?
Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

All demafation and libel will be used legally against you, Griffin,

Post by Barbara Schwarz
I really have had with you defamator, spammer, libeler, harasser and
stalker.

Sue me, kook.

Sounds like an open invitation to me!

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-24 00:47:08 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Barbara Schwarz, self-cnfessed shoplifting thief, stil acts as

Patrick

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber thug

and

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sulivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?
Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

All demafation and libel will be used legally against you, Griffin,

Post by Barbara Schwarz
I really have had with you defamator, spammer, libeler, harasser and
stalker.

Sue me, kook.

I am talking for myself after I have read 26 false complaints from you,
above-the-law-geek.
Post you postal address or do you want to be sued over your Canadian
lawyer?

Barbara Schwarz

Mari-Mac

2005-05-24 00:54:37 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Barbara Schwarz, self-cnfessed shoplifting thief, stil acts as

Patrick

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber

thug

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sulivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?
Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

All demafation and libel will be used legally against you,

Griffin,

Post by a***@gmail.com
as

Post by Barbara Schwarz
I really have had with you defamator, spammer, libeler, harasser

and

Post by Barbara Schwarz
stalker.

Sue me, kook.

I am talking for myself after I have read 26 false complaints from you,
above-the-law-geek.
Post you postal address or do you want to be sued over your Canadian
lawyer?

Good plan, Barbara. How about a class action lawsuit. Pym has an
address for service in Vancouver. Let's approach him there.

How many people here were harmed by Griffin? Who wants to take action?

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-24 01:06:12 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Barbara Schwarz, self-cnfessed shoplifting thief, stil acts as

Patrick

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber

thug

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sulivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?
Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

All demafation and libel will be used legally against you,

Griffin,

Post by a***@gmail.com
as

Post by Barbara Schwarz
I really have had with you defamator, spammer, libeler,

harasser

Post by a***@gmail.com
and

Post by Barbara Schwarz
stalker.

Sue me, kook.

I am talking for myself after I have read 26 false complaints from

you,

Post by a***@gmail.com
above-the-law-geek.
Post you postal address or do you want to be sued over your

Canadian

Post by a***@gmail.com
lawyer?

Good plan, Barbara. How about a class action lawsuit. Pym has an
address for service in Vancouver. Let's approach him there.
How many people here were harmed by Griffin? Who wants to take

action?

Will all 80+ aliases of the morphing lying cyber stalking kook Patrick
Michael Sullivan count as different "victims" ?

Soho's Neon Glow

2005-05-24 01:42:12 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Will all 80+ aliases of the morphing lying cyber stalking kook

Patrick

Post by a***@gmail.com
Michael Sullivan count as different "victims" ?

No, how about just 2 of us from this group. Maybe 3. Or 4. Or 5.

How's that sound, Robert? Would you like to be papered?

Well, you are going to be. Your turn has come. And it's been coming for
a long while. And there is still lots of time left for us to act. And
you have an address for service. And you will be sued. And if you come
to Canada, you will be arrested. Do you know why, Robert? It's because
you are committing acts of CRIMINAL HARASSMENT and STALKING. Those are
indictable offences.

Do show up for court, Robert.

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-24 00:58:58 UTC

Post by a***@gmail.com
Barbara Schwarz, self-cnfessed shoplifting thief, stil acts as

Patrick

Post by a***@gmail.com
Patrick Michael Sullivan addreesses Schwarz, it's fellow cyber

thug

Post by Mari-Mac
Barbara, thanks for your posting.

Barbara Schwarz? Doesn't the cyber stalker Patrick Michael

Sulivan

Post by a***@gmail.com
claim to be Schwarz's "sis"?
Does this mean insanity runs in the family?

All demafation and libel will be used legally against you,

Griffin,

Post by a***@gmail.com
as

Post by Barbara Schwarz
I really have had with you defamator, spammer, libeler, harasser

and

Post by Barbara Schwarz
stalker.

Sue me, kook.

I am talking for myself after I have read 26 false complaints from you,
above-the-law-geek.
Post you postal address or do you want to be sued over your Canadian
lawyer?

Do it whichever way you want, kook.

What's the bet it ends up like your Salt Lake Tribune suit?

Bwhahaha.

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-23 17:15:29 UTC

EVER

Hey, Robert Griffin, how come that one law firm already quit that
harassing kook case against Patrick Sullivan already? How come that
your current attorney does not file any papers to make any judge hear
that case? Do you still have an attorney? Did Dan Burnett quit or is he
still representing you spammer and harasser who filed 26 wrongful
complaints about me to deny my freedom of speech to me? You are such an
obsessed stalker kook, Mister.

As you don't provide your postal address, people you harm can file
legal actions against you via Canadian attorney Dan Burnett if he still
represents you.

Barbara Schwarz

corinne

2005-05-23 17:23:55 UTC

EVER

Hey, Robert Griffin, how come that one law firm already quit that
harassing kook case against Patrick Sullivan already? How come that
your current attorney does not file any papers to make any judge hear
that case? Do you still have an attorney? Did Dan Burnett quit or is he
still representing you spammer and harasser who filed 26 wrongful
complaints about me to deny my freedom of speech to me? You are such an
obsessed stalker kook, Mister.
As you don't provide your postal address, people you harm can file
legal actions against you via Canadian attorney Dan Burnett if he still
represents you.
Barbara Schwarz

-------------------
Subject:Scientists create animals that are part-human -
and they live and die on usenet.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7681252/

Mari-Mac

2005-05-23 18:08:12 UTC

EVER

Hey, Robert Griffin, how come that one law firm already quit that
harassing kook case against Patrick Sullivan already? How come that
your current attorney does not file any papers to make any judge hear
that case? Do you still have an attorney? Did Dan Burnett quit or is he
still representing you spammer and harasser who filed 26 wrongful
complaints about me to deny my freedom of speech to me? You are such an
obsessed stalker kook, Mister.
As you don't provide your postal address, people you harm can file
legal actions against you via Canadian attorney Dan Burnett if he still
represents you.
Barbara Schwarz

Yes, I wondered the same thing. And Griffin talks about others sinking
the case. Griffin's own sickening comments and foolishness clearly show
that Griffin's case is out of control and spiraling down the toilet.

I think sending off all of Griffin's latest postings to his lawyer
should rack up some nice, long billable hours that Griffin will have to
pay for. But after all, Dan Burnett should be made aware that his
client, ROBERT GRIFFIN, is out of control on Usenet and sinking his own
case. How foolish.

You can all email Daniel W. Burnett here:

***@owenbird.com
OR
***@owenbird.com

Google users, take note:

dburnett @owenbird.com
OR
dwburnett @owenbird.com

And snail mail:

Daniel W. Burnett
OWEN BIRD LAW CORPORATION
PO BOX 49130
Three Bentall Centre
2900-595 Burrard Street
Vancouver, BC, Canada
V7X-1J5

SOURCE:
http://www.owenbird.com/law_pop_dwb.html

If anyone here on ASH ever had a beef with MAGNUS PYM, please feel free
to contact his attorney at the above addresses. Fill his boots...

Nazi doctor Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-23 18:12:36 UTC

I'm sure Daniel Burnett is very much aware of YOUR total absence of
personal credibility and integrity, buffoon.

Your rantings will be given the same degree of consideration as the
mentally retarded nonsense spewing from the mouth of your love muffin,
Barbara Schwarz.

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-23 18:35:10 UTC

Post by Nazi doctor Barbara Schwarz
I'm sure Daniel Burnett is very much aware of YOUR total absence of
personal credibility and integrity, buffoon.
Your rantings will be given the same degree of consideration as the
mentally retarded nonsense spewing from the mouth of your love

muffin,

Post by Nazi doctor Barbara Schwarz
Barbara Schwarz.

Get a job, worthless out of the job drunk bum Garry Scarff.

Robert Griffin, why don't you post all the complaints you made against
me in which you spoke on behalf of lots of people. I am sure they all
want know how you represented them and why.

Barbara Schwarz

n***@myway.com

2005-05-23 19:39:44 UTC

Post by Barbara Schwarz
Robert Griffin, why don't you post all the complaints you made

against

Post by Barbara Schwarz
me in which you spoke on behalf of lots of people. I am sure they all
want know how you represented them and why.
Barbara Schwarz

He won't. Because he knows all his complaints were filed with malicious
intent. You see, Robert never expected those records to become public
property. But it looks like they are now. And now he has to answer to
them all.

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-23 21:34:54 UTC

Post by Barbara Schwarz
Robert Griffin, why don't you post all the complaints you made

against

Post by Barbara Schwarz
me in which you spoke on behalf of lots of people. I am sure they all
want know how you represented them and why.
Barbara Schwarz

He won't. Because he knows all his complaints were filed with

malicious

Post by a***@gmail.com
intent. You see, Robert never expected those records to become public
property. But it looks like they are now. And now he has to answer to
them all.

He sent them to numerous officials, so he also should post them. Open a
thread, Griffin and hang all the 26 complaints at it, and we prove that
you attack people without reasons and are the abuser and harasser who
hates other people's free speech. (And tha tis what he is afraid of.)

Barbara Schwarz

a***@gmail.com

2005-05-23 23:10:30 UTC

Ever a moron, Patrick Michael Sullivan the Nanaimo cyber stalker, gets

Post by Barbara Schwarz
Robert Griffin, why don't you post all the complaints you made

against

Post by Barbara Schwarz
me in which you spoke on behalf of lots of people. I am sure they all
want know how you represented them and why.
Barbara Schwarz

He won't. Because he knows all his complaints were filed with

malicious

Post by a***@gmail.com
intent.

How can complaints of excessive BI constitute "malicious intent"?

How can complaints about unwelcome and unwanted messages made by
Schwarz at the request of, and for the benefit of, cyber kook Patrick
Michael Sullivan's stalking and smear campaigns be considered
"malicious intent"?

The UEN got backlisted because of Schwarz's own stupidity; I had no
part in it.

Post by a***@gmail.com
You see, Robert never expected those records to become public
property. But it looks like they are now. And now he has to answer to
them all.

No problem for me.

Big problems for the cyber stalker Patrick Michael Sullivan and it's
accessory Barbara Schwarz, methinks.

Barbara Schwarz

2005-05-23 21:32:35 UTC

EVER

Post by Barbara Schwarz
still representing you spammer and harasser who filed 26 wrongful
complaints about me to deny my freedom of speech to me? You are

such

Post by Mari-Mac
an

Post by Barbara Schwarz
obsessed stalker kook, Mister.
As you don't provide your postal address, people you harm can file
legal actions against you via Canadian attorney Dan Burnett if he

still

Post by Barbara Schwarz
represents you.
Barbara Schwarz

Yes, I wondered the same thing. And Griffin talks about others

sinking

Post by Mari-Mac
the case. Griffin's own sickening comments and foolishness clearly show
that Griffin's case is out of control and spiraling down the toilet.

I think Griffin is stittin in a glass house and should not throw with
stones.

Post by Mari-Mac
I think sending off all of Griffin's latest postings to his lawyer
should rack up some nice, long billable hours that Griffin will have to
pay for. But after all, Dan Burnett should be made aware that his
client, ROBERT GRIFFIN, is out of control on Usenet and sinking his own
case. How foolish.
OR
OR
Daniel W. Burnett
OWEN BIRD LAW CORPORATION
PO BOX 49130
Three Bentall Centre
2900-595 Burrard Street
Vancouver, BC, Canada
V7X-1J5
http://www.owenbird.com/law_pop_dwb.html
If anyone here on ASH ever had a beef with MAGNUS PYM, please feel free
to contact his attorney at the above addresses. Fill his boots...

I informed the lawyer about what Griffin did and still does to me.

Barbara Schwarz

Soho's Neon Glow

2005-05-23 22:58:41 UTC

EVER

Hey, Robert Griffin, how come that one law firm already quit that
harassing kook case against Patrick Sullivan already? How come that
your current attorney does not file any papers to make any judge

hear

Post by Barbara Schwarz
that case? Do you still have an attorney? Did Dan Burnett quit or

Post by Barbara Schwarz
still representing you spammer and harasser who filed 26 wrongful
complaints about me to deny my freedom of speech to me? You are

such

Post by Mari-Mac
an

Post by Barbara Schwarz
obsessed stalker kook, Mister.
As you don't provide your postal address, people you harm can file
legal actions against you via Canadian attorney Dan Burnett if he

still

Post by Barbara Schwarz
represents you.
Barbara Schwarz

Yes, I wondered the same thing. And Griffin talks about others

sinking

Post by Mari-Mac
the case. Griffin's own sickening comments and foolishness clearly

show

Post by Mari-Mac
that Griffin's case is out of control and spiraling down the

toilet.

Post by Mari-Mac
I think Griffin is stittin in a glass house and should not throw with
stones.

I think Griff will be freezing his butt off this winter with all those
broken windows! ;-)

Post by Mari-Mac
I think sending off all of Griffin's latest postings to his lawyer
should rack up some nice, long billable hours that Griffin will

have

Post by Mari-Mac
to

Post by Mari-Mac
pay for. But after all, Dan Burnett should be made aware that his
client, ROBERT GRIFFIN, is out of control on Usenet and sinking his

own

Post by Mari-Mac
case. How foolish.
OR
OR
Daniel W. Burnett
OWEN BIRD LAW CORPORATION
PO BOX 49130
Three Bentall Centre
2900-595 Burrard Street
Vancouver, BC, Canada
V7X-1J5
http://www.owenbird.com/law_pop_dwb.html
If anyone here on ASH ever had a beef with MAGNUS PYM, please feel

free

Post by Mari-Mac
to contact his attorney at the above addresses. Fill his boots...

I informed the lawyer about what Griffin did and still does to me.
Barbara Schwarz

That's an excellent plan. I will do the same and send his postings
along. His lawyer (and others) should know just what he is doing to not
only his kooksuit, but to his own emotional well-being. Robert needs
help. Maybe some Saint John's Wort tea, perhaps would help.

Anonymous

2005-05-29 16:36:38 UTC

"Soho's Neon Glow" <***@myway.com> wrote in message news:***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

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