Atheists claim a 'thing' happened.

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

"nothing can create itself ??"...someone tell Stevie that he doesn't
understand "nothing".

Ted

2020-02-08 02:55:47 UTC

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.
Michael Christ

Nobody is making that claim, liar.

Michael Christ

2020-02-08 21:41:06 UTC

Post by John Locke
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.
Michael Christ

Nobody is making that claim, liar.

All atheists are making that claim, Goofy.

If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??

Simple.

Isn't it?

Well??

However I can tell you now, whatever your atheist claim it will
inevitably boil down to, yeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa, everything just up
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).

You are wankers.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Lucifer

2020-02-08 22:35:20 UTC

On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by John Locke
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.
Michael Christ

Nobody is making that claim, liar.

All atheists are making that claim, Goofy.
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??

My claim is nobody knows.

Post by Michael Christ
Simple.
Isn't it?
Well??
However I can tell you now, whatever your atheist claim it will
inevitably boil down to, yeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa, everything just up
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).
You are wankers.

You don't know either.

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Kevrob

2020-02-08 23:41:40 UTC

Post by Lucifer
You don't know either.

The theists, religious-minded and advocates of totalist
theories of all types )e.g. Marxists) are loathe to admit
to themselves that their systems don't completely explain
the universe, let alone that they may be fundamentally flawed.

"We don't know that bit yet" sticks in their craw. If the
ideology/theology were to be re-examined, it might fall apart
like the tissue-paper structure it is. People with a mindset
of philosophical and methodological naturalism can deal with
an incomplete or falsified theory. It's just "back to the
old drawing board!"

Sometimes having a cherished belief overturned is the best
opportunity for discovering amazing new ideas. When one is
in the grip of "received wisdom" rather than doing one's own
thinking, one misses out on that.

--
Kevin R
a.a #2310

Davej

2020-02-08 23:03:08 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
[...]
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??
[...]

Time began at the Big Bang.
There was no time before the Big Bang.
The universe has existed for 13+ billion years.
The earth has existed for 4.5+ billion years.
Life has existed for 3.7+ billion years.
Fossils provide evidence that life evolved from
simple forms to increasingly complex forms.
Approximately 99% of species are now extinct.

Michael Christ

2020-02-08 23:14:34 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
[...]
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??
[...]

And so...everything just up and maded itself.

Now do you see what I am saying?

You are playing with minutia and not looking at the big picture. Your
claim is impossible!

The non-existent cannot bring forth existence.

I have to thank Cloud Hobbit for being the vessel for that reality, but
not the source. Sorry.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Davej

2020-02-09 01:35:34 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
[...]
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??
[...]

And so...everything just up and maded itself.
Now do you see what I am saying?

You're saying that you want to pretend that you know something
with zero evidence to support it.

Peter Pan

2020-02-11 00:03:12 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
And so...everything just up and maded itself.
Now do you see what I am saying?

Mike McChrist, some time and in some way you are going to
have go beyond, MX says-so. How can the world know of
your brilliance if you can't explain what you say. At
least show something in terms of define, analyse,
compare, relate, contrast; y'know, show us the money.

Michael Christ

2020-02-11 00:17:31 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
And so...everything just up and maded itself.
Now do you see what I am saying?

Snipping inept dickheads.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Cloud Hobbit

2020-02-11 00:35:52 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
The non-existent cannot bring forth existence.

And nobody has said otherwise.

There has never been a time when a literal nothing ever existed.

Nothing "made itself" from nothing because nothing is not another kind of something and does not and never has existed.

Michael Christ

2020-02-11 02:27:40 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
The non-existent cannot bring forth existence.

And nobody has said otherwise.
There has never been a time when a literal nothing ever existed.
Nothing "made itself" from nothing because nothing is not another kind of something and does not and never has existed.

Whatever you are bullshiting about does not sound like what I have said,
Cloudoatheistowanker.

"No thing, nothing can create itself", which is something you subscribed
to when I first said it. Then your brain realised the fatal
ramifications of that truth in relation to your moron atheism and then
you back-peddled. :-).

And don't forget, 'Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief'
for our foundation is what we choose to believe.

Which brings me to a thank you for offering to us all what you believe.
Sadly though, it cannot be proven and you don't even know what you
believe. :-).

Yet...if you can comprehend...the truth will reveal itself at some point
or another no matter what anyone testifies as their belief.

I know I'm relaxed.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Yap Honghor

2020-02-13 02:10:21 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
The non-existent cannot bring forth existence.

And nobody has said otherwise.
There has never been a time when a literal nothing ever existed.
Nothing "made itself" from nothing because nothing is not another kind of something and does not and never has existed.

Whatever you are bullshiting about does not sound like what I have said,
Cloudoatheistowanker.
"No thing, nothing can create itself", which is something you subscribed
to when I first said it. Then your brain realised the fatal
ramifications of that truth in relation to your moron atheism and then
you back-peddled. :-).
And don't forget, 'Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief'
for our foundation is what we choose to believe.
Which brings me to a thank you for offering to us all what you believe.
Sadly though, it cannot be proven and you don't even know what you
believe. :-).
Yet...if you can comprehend...the truth will reveal itself at some point
or another no matter what anyone testifies as their belief.
I know I'm relaxed.

I know you are so stressed....because there is no fucking pixie up in the sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your fucking religion just sucks money from the fools, enough to sustain you skill-less idiots for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael Christ

2020-02-13 08:08:04 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
The non-existent cannot bring forth existence.

And nobody has said otherwise.
There has never been a time when a literal nothing ever existed.
Nothing "made itself" from nothing because nothing is not another kind of something and does not and never has existed.

Whatever you are bullshiting about does not sound like what I have said,
Cloudoatheistowanker.
"No thing, nothing can create itself", which is something you subscribed
to when I first said it. Then your brain realised the fatal
ramifications of that truth in relation to your moron atheism and then
you back-peddled. :-).
And don't forget, 'Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief'
for our foundation is what we choose to believe.
Which brings me to a thank you for offering to us all what you believe.
Sadly though, it cannot be proven and you don't even know what you
believe. :-).
Yet...if you can comprehend...the truth will reveal itself at some point
or another no matter what anyone testifies as their belief.
I know I'm relaxed.

I know you are so stressed....because there is no fucking pixie up in the sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your fucking religion just sucks money from the fools, enough to sustain you skill-less idiots for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop being an embarrassment to embarrassed atheists, Yapling.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Lucifer

2020-02-13 08:16:23 UTC

On Thu, 13a Feb 2020 19:08:04 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
The non-existent cannot bring forth existence.

And nobody has said otherwise.
There has never been a time when a literal nothing ever existed.
Nothing "made itself" from nothing because nothing is not another kind of something and does not and never has existed.

Whatever you are bullshiting about does not sound like what I have said,
Cloudoatheistowanker.
"No thing, nothing can create itself", which is something you subscribed
to when I first said it. Then your brain realised the fatal
ramifications of that truth in relation to your moron atheism and then
you back-peddled. :-).
And don't forget, 'Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief'
for our foundation is what we choose to believe.
Which brings me to a thank you for offering to us all what you believe.
Sadly though, it cannot be proven and you don't even know what you
believe. :-).
Yet...if you can comprehend...the truth will reveal itself at some point
or another no matter what anyone testifies as their belief.
I know I'm relaxed.

I know you are so stressed....because there is no fucking pixie up in the sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your fucking religion just sucks money from the fools, enough to sustain you skill-less idiots for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop being an embarrassment to embarrassed atheists, Yapling.
Michael Christ

Yap Honghor

2020-02-21 09:05:21 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
The non-existent cannot bring forth existence.

And nobody has said otherwise.
There has never been a time when a literal nothing ever existed.
Nothing "made itself" from nothing because nothing is not another kind of something and does not and never has existed.

Whatever you are bullshiting about does not sound like what I have said,
Cloudoatheistowanker.
"No thing, nothing can create itself", which is something you subscribed
to when I first said it. Then your brain realised the fatal
ramifications of that truth in relation to your moron atheism and then
you back-peddled. :-).
And don't forget, 'Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief'
for our foundation is what we choose to believe.
Which brings me to a thank you for offering to us all what you believe.
Sadly though, it cannot be proven and you don't even know what you
believe. :-).
Yet...if you can comprehend...the truth will reveal itself at some point
or another no matter what anyone testifies as their belief.
I know I'm relaxed.

I know you are so stressed....because there is no fucking pixie up in the sky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your fucking religion just sucks money from the fools, enough to sustain you skill-less idiots for life!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop being an embarrassment to embarrassed atheists, Yapling.

You need to stop your miserable life...agonizing the non-existence of a pixie won't help you in any way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ted

2020-02-09 17:13:02 UTC

On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by John Locke
On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.
Michael Christ

Nobody is making that claim, liar.

All atheists are making that claim, Goofy.
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??
Simple.
Isn't it?
Well??
However I can tell you now, whatever your atheist claim it will
inevitably boil down to, yeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa, everything just up
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).
You are wankers.
Michael Christ

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase. So why
you wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

Michael Christ

2020-02-09 21:27:37 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ >

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.

Post by Michael Christ
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.
Michael Christ

Nobody is making that claim, liar.

All atheists are making that claim, Goofy.
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??
Simple.
Isn't it?
Well??
However I can tell you now, whatever your atheist claim it will
inevitably boil down to, yeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa, everything just

Post by Michael Christ
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).
You are wankers.
Michael Christ

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase. So why you
wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

State your case. Don't just waffle into the air, Teddy. Then we can
have a good look at it. :-).

But you haven't got one have you.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Peter Pan

2020-02-11 00:23:04 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ >

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.

Post by Michael Christ
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.
Michael Christ

Nobody is making that claim, liar.

All atheists are making that claim, Goofy.
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??
Simple.
Isn't it?
Well??
However I can tell you now, whatever your atheist claim it will
inevitably boil down to, yeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa, everything just

Post by Michael Christ
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).
You are wankers.
Michael Christ

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase. So why you
wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

State your case. Don't just waffle into the air, Teddy. Then we can
have a good look at it. :-).
But you haven't got one have you.

You're claiming atheists claim this and claim that. So
state your case already.

Lying doesn't give you the right to sit in judgment, even
if you are Christ Lite.

Michael Christ

2020-02-11 02:20:33 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ >

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.

Post by Michael Christ
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.
Michael Christ

Nobody is making that claim, liar.

All atheists are making that claim, Goofy.
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??
Simple.
Isn't it?
Well??
However I can tell you now, whatever your atheist claim it will
inevitably boil down to, yeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa, everything just

Post by Michael Christ
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).
You are wankers.
Michael Christ

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase. So why you
wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

State your case. Don't just waffle into the air, Teddy. Then we can
have a good look at it. :-).
But you haven't got one have you.

You're claiming atheists claim this and claim that. So
state your case already.
Lying doesn't give you the right to sit in judgment, even
if you are Christ Lite.

I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

Perhaps you'd like to have a go to try and help Ted out??

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Peter Pan

2020-02-11 03:15:17 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).
You are wankers.
Michael Christ

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase. So why you
wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

State your case. Don't just waffle into the air, Teddy. Then we can
have a good look at it. :-).
But you haven't got one have you.

You're claiming atheists claim this and claim that. So
state your case already.
Lying doesn't give you the right to sit in judgment, even
if you are Christ Lite.

I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

You've made assertions many times over, as if your say-so
is the gold standard. Assertions do not a "case" make.

"Eternal God or you made yourself" is not a case.

"I can't understand, so it's impossible" is not a case.

"I'm christ and i said so" is not a case.

You don't respond well to rational discussion. You flop
around from non-sequitur to leap of illogic to science
denialism to name-calling to masturbation to dick
fantasies. You are incoherent, never mind the case.

A real christ at least uses parables and illustrative
metaphors. It's time to accept that you suck at this
christing thing.

Post by Michael Christ
Perhaps you'd like to have a go to try and help Ted out??

Ted can take care of you on his own. I am free to jump
in and speak my TRVTH, and let the cards fall where they
may, as someone often says. Dry your tears, cupcake.
Take it like a christ.

Michael Christ

2020-02-11 03:26:17 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).
You are wankers.
Michael Christ

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase. So why you
wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

State your case. Don't just waffle into the air, Teddy. Then we can
have a good look at it. :-).
But you haven't got one have you.

You're claiming atheists claim this and claim that. So
state your case already.
Lying doesn't give you the right to sit in judgment, even
if you are Christ Lite.

I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

You've made assertions many times over, as if your say-so
is the gold standard. Assertions do not a "case" make.

Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief.

Believe it or not.

And you are not the case master of the universe, Poopy.

Post by Peter Pan
"Eternal God or you made yourself" is not a case.

Not the way I put it.

I put it this way, if that is alright with you??

Eternal God or nothing would be here.

Why?

No thing, nothing can create itself.

Take it or leave it, Oh Glorious Case Master of the Universe.

Post by Peter Pan
"I can't understand, so it's impossible" is not a case.

Huh, Poopdom stuff?!

Post by Peter Pan
"I'm christ and i said so" is not a case.

More Poopdom.

Post by Peter Pan
You don't respond well to rational discussion.

You don't lay down the foundation of what rational discussion is, Lord
God of Cases.

You flop

Post by Peter Pan
around from non-sequitur to leap of illogic to science
denialism to name-calling to masturbation to dick
fantasies. You are incoherent, never mind the case.

You can believe what you want but you don't tell me what to do and what
is and what isn't, Poopy. You should know that by now.

Post by Peter Pan
A real christ at least uses parables and illustrative
metaphors. It's time to accept that you suck at this
christing thing.

As above.

Post by Michael Christ
Perhaps you'd like to have a go to try and help Ted out??

Ted can take care of you on his own. I am free to jump
in and speak my TRVTH, and let the cards fall where they
may, as someone often says. Dry your tears, cupcake.
Take it like a christ.

Of course, you got nothing but Poopdom poop. Poor Ted is left
floundering with you, you heartless ape.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Peter Pan

2020-02-11 03:56:59 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

You've made assertions many times over, as if your say-so
is the gold standard. Assertions do not a "case" make.

Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief.
Believe it or not.

Thanks, I'll take "or not".

Post by Peter Pan
"Eternal God or you made yourself" is not a case.

Not the way I put it.

Of course. Nothing makes sense the way you put it.

Post by Michael Christ
I put it this way, if that is alright with you??
Eternal God or nothing would be here.
Why?
No thing, nothing can create itself.

Is that a deductive argument? Or an inductive one.
Or merely an infallible ex cathedra christly decree?

Post by Michael Christ
Take it or leave it, Oh Glorious Case Master of the Universe.

Wow. I'm promoted to Glorious Case Master of the
Universe. Does that come with annointment to the office
of Junior Christ?

Post by Peter Pan
You don't respond well to rational discussion.

You don't lay down the foundation of what rational discussion is, Lord
God of Cases.

You're demanding that I explain what rational discussion
is, so you can finally win an argument? What kind of
christ are you anyway?

Michael Christ

2020-02-11 04:04:12 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

You've made assertions many times over, as if your say-so
is the gold standard. Assertions do not a "case" make.

Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief.
Believe it or not.

Thanks, I'll take "or not".

Post by Peter Pan
"Eternal God or you made yourself" is not a case.

Not the way I put it.

Of course. Nothing makes sense the way you put it.

Post by Michael Christ
I put it this way, if that is alright with you??
Eternal God or nothing would be here.
Why?
No thing, nothing can create itself.

Is that a deductive argument? Or an inductive one.
Or merely an infallible ex cathedra christly decree?

Its an un-challengeable reality.

Post by Michael Christ
Take it or leave it, Oh Glorious Case Master of the Universe.

Wow. I'm promoted to Glorious Case Master of the
Universe. Does that come with annointment to the office
of Junior Christ?

You can be whatever you want. Just say whatever you want.

Post by Peter Pan
You don't respond well to rational discussion.

You don't lay down the foundation of what rational discussion is, Lord
God of Cases.

You're demanding that I explain what rational discussion
is, so you can finally win an argument? What kind of
christ are you anyway?

You are just another snipping coward, Peter Poop, dancing around in the
shadows hoping to be light.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Peter Pan

2020-02-11 04:32:57 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

You've made assertions many times over, as if your say-so
is the gold standard. Assertions do not a "case" make.

Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief.
Believe it or not.

Thanks, I'll take "or not".

Post by Peter Pan
"Eternal God or you made yourself" is not a case.

Not the way I put it.

Of course. Nothing makes sense the way you put it.

Post by Michael Christ
I put it this way, if that is alright with you??
Eternal God or nothing would be here.
Why?
No thing, nothing can create itself.

Is that a deductive argument? Or an inductive one.
Or merely an infallible ex cathedra christly decree?

Its an un-challengeable reality.

I have challenged it a thousand times, and you can't
explain how you made your leap of illogic.

So much for your christly unchallengeability.

Post by Peter Pan
You don't respond well to rational discussion.

You don't lay down the foundation of what rational discussion is, Lord
God of Cases.

You're demanding that I explain what rational discussion
is, so you can finally win an argument? What kind of
christ are you anyway?

You are just another snipping coward, Peter Poop, dancing around in the
shadows hoping to be light.

Oh, cry me a river. What I snipped was what I wrote,
plus your content-free poop-talk reply. If you want to
see your poop talk again, go back and read it. It's
still there, waste of electrons though it is.

Michael Christ

2020-02-11 20:39:35 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

You've made assertions many times over, as if your say-so
is the gold standard. Assertions do not a "case" make.

Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief.
Believe it or not.

Thanks, I'll take "or not".

Post by Peter Pan
"Eternal God or you made yourself" is not a case.

Not the way I put it.

Of course. Nothing makes sense the way you put it.

Post by Michael Christ
I put it this way, if that is alright with you??
Eternal God or nothing would be here.
Why?
No thing, nothing can create itself.

Is that a deductive argument? Or an inductive one.
Or merely an infallible ex cathedra christly decree?

Its an un-challengeable reality.

I have challenged it a thousand times,

Why is that? :-).

You can challenge Le Bron too but reality is not going to yield to you!
:-).

Post by Peter Pan
and you can't
explain how you made your leap of illogic.
So much for your christly unchallengeability.

As above.

You can't challenge reality with delusion, Bud.

Post by Peter Pan
You don't respond well to rational discussion.

You don't lay down the foundation of what rational discussion is, Lord
God of Cases.

You're demanding that I explain what rational discussion
is, so you can finally win an argument? What kind of
christ are you anyway?

You are just another snipping coward, Peter Poop, dancing around in the
shadows hoping to be light.

Oh, cry me a river. What I snipped was what I wrote,
plus your content-free poop-talk reply.

Yeah.

If you want to

Post by Peter Pan
see your poop talk again, go back and read it. It's
still there, waste of electrons though it is.

Peter Poopdom is not my King.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Peter Pan

2020-02-12 22:32:36 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

You've made assertions many times over, as if your say-so
is the gold standard. Assertions do not a "case" make.

Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief.
Believe it or not.

Thanks, I'll take "or not".

Post by Peter Pan
"Eternal God or you made yourself" is not a case.

Not the way I put it.

Of course. Nothing makes sense the way you put it.

Post by Michael Christ
I put it this way, if that is alright with you??
Eternal God or nothing would be here.
Why?
No thing, nothing can create itself.

Is that a deductive argument? Or an inductive one.
Or merely an infallible ex cathedra christly decree?

Its an un-challengeable reality.

I have challenged it a thousand times,

Why is that? :-).
You can challenge Le Bron too but reality is not going to yield to you!
:-).

Here's the difference between you and LeBron: When
LeBron is challenged at hoops, he is ready and willing to
come out onto the court and play the game.

When Michael the Christ is challenged on his silly ex
cathedra assertions, he repeats himself, equivocates,
dances around, then goes into pooptalk mode.

Your unchallengeable reality loses the challenge by
forfeit.

<snippage of more pooptalk>

Michael Christ

2020-02-13 04:47:13 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

You've made assertions many times over, as if your say-so
is the gold standard. Assertions do not a "case" make.

Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief.
Believe it or not.

Thanks, I'll take "or not".

Post by Peter Pan
"Eternal God or you made yourself" is not a case.

Not the way I put it.

Of course. Nothing makes sense the way you put it.

Post by Michael Christ
I put it this way, if that is alright with you??
Eternal God or nothing would be here.
Why?
No thing, nothing can create itself.

Is that a deductive argument? Or an inductive one.
Or merely an infallible ex cathedra christly decree?

Its an un-challengeable reality.

I have challenged it a thousand times,

Why is that? :-).
You can challenge Le Bron too but reality is not going to yield to you!
:-).

Here's the difference between you and LeBron: When
LeBron is challenged at hoops, he is ready and willing to
come out onto the court and play the game.
When Michael the Christ is challenged on his silly ex
cathedra assertions, he repeats himself, equivocates,
dances around, then goes into pooptalk mode.
Your unchallengeable reality loses the challenge by
forfeit.
<snippage of more pooptalk>

An implant of pooptalk, by Peter Poop.

If I told you LeBron was bouncing a ball on your head, you would still
go what, where?? It wouldn't matter how many basketballs were to wear out!

So flog yourself to death, unless you have an attitude change, nothing
is going to change. It is not me preventing you, it is you.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

JWS

2020-02-13 05:10:59 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

You've made assertions many times over, as if your say-so
is the gold standard. Assertions do not a "case" make.

Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief.
Believe it or not.

Thanks, I'll take "or not".

Post by Peter Pan
"Eternal God or you made yourself" is not a case.

Not the way I put it.

Of course. Nothing makes sense the way you put it.

Post by Michael Christ
I put it this way, if that is alright with you??
Eternal God or nothing would be here.
Why?
No thing, nothing can create itself.

Is that a deductive argument? Or an inductive one.
Or merely an infallible ex cathedra christly decree?

Its an un-challengeable reality.

I have challenged it a thousand times,

Why is that? :-).
You can challenge Le Bron too but reality is not going to yield to you!
:-).

Here's the difference between you and LeBron: When
LeBron is challenged at hoops, he is ready and willing to
come out onto the court and play the game.
When Michael the Christ is challenged on his silly ex
cathedra assertions, he repeats himself, equivocates,
dances around, then goes into pooptalk mode.
Your unchallengeable reality loses the challenge by
forfeit.
<snippage of more pooptalk>

An implant of pooptalk, by Peter Poop.
If I told you LeBron was bouncing a ball on your head, you would still
go what, where?? It wouldn't matter how many basketballs were to wear out!
So flog yourself to death, unless you have an attitude change, nothing
is going to change. It is not me preventing you, it is you.
Michael Christ

And look at this, Peter Pan. MC comes back
with a post that proves you correct. He
does exactly what you said he would do. And
he shows no sign of embarrassment. He's
proud of his idiocy.

Michael Christ

2020-02-13 19:44:25 UTC

Post by JWS

Post by Michael Christ
I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

You've made assertions many times over, as if your say-so
is the gold standard. Assertions do not a "case" make.

Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief.
Believe it or not.

Thanks, I'll take "or not".

Post by Peter Pan
"Eternal God or you made yourself" is not a case.

Not the way I put it.

Of course. Nothing makes sense the way you put it.

Post by Michael Christ
I put it this way, if that is alright with you??
Eternal God or nothing would be here.
Why?
No thing, nothing can create itself.

Is that a deductive argument? Or an inductive one.
Or merely an infallible ex cathedra christly decree?

Its an un-challengeable reality.

I have challenged it a thousand times,

Why is that? :-).
You can challenge Le Bron too but reality is not going to yield to you!
:-).

Here's the difference between you and LeBron: When
LeBron is challenged at hoops, he is ready and willing to
come out onto the court and play the game.
When Michael the Christ is challenged on his silly ex
cathedra assertions, he repeats himself, equivocates,
dances around, then goes into pooptalk mode.
Your unchallengeable reality loses the challenge by
forfeit.
<snippage of more pooptalk>

An implant of pooptalk, by Peter Poop.
If I told you LeBron was bouncing a ball on your head, you would still
go what, where?? It wouldn't matter how many basketballs were to wear out!
So flog yourself to death, unless you have an attitude change, nothing
is going to change. It is not me preventing you, it is you.
Michael Christ

And look at this, Peter Pan. MC comes back
with a post that proves you correct. He
does exactly what you said he would do. And
he shows no sign of embarrassment. He's
proud of his idiocy.

Another basket ball case!

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Peter Pan

2020-02-14 00:03:01 UTC

Post by JWS

Post by Michael Christ
I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

You've made assertions many times over, as if your say-so
is the gold standard. Assertions do not a "case" make.

Everything is belief and you can't prove a belief.
Believe it or not.

Thanks, I'll take "or not".

Post by Peter Pan
"Eternal God or you made yourself" is not a case.

Not the way I put it.

Of course. Nothing makes sense the way you put it.

Post by Michael Christ
I put it this way, if that is alright with you??
Eternal God or nothing would be here.
Why?
No thing, nothing can create itself.

Is that a deductive argument? Or an inductive one.
Or merely an infallible ex cathedra christly decree?

Its an un-challengeable reality.

I have challenged it a thousand times,

Why is that? :-).
You can challenge Le Bron too but reality is not going to yield to you!
:-).

Here's the difference between you and LeBron: When
LeBron is challenged at hoops, he is ready and willing to
come out onto the court and play the game.
When Michael the Christ is challenged on his silly ex
cathedra assertions, he repeats himself, equivocates,
dances around, then goes into pooptalk mode.
Your unchallengeable reality loses the challenge by
forfeit.
<snippage of more pooptalk>

An implant of pooptalk, by Peter Poop.
If I told you LeBron was bouncing a ball on your head, you would still
go what, where?? It wouldn't matter how many basketballs were to wear out!
So flog yourself to death, unless you have an attitude change, nothing
is going to change. It is not me preventing you, it is you.
Michael Christ

And look at this, Peter Pan. MC comes back
with a post that proves you correct. He
does exactly what you said he would do. And
he shows no sign of embarrassment. He's
proud of his idiocy.

Yep. He's pretty predictable. And he's not the
brightest christ on the block.

Peter Pan

2020-02-13 22:55:43 UTC

It's not me preventing you from accepting the tangy
tomatoey grace of The FSM. It's only you.

Ramen.

temm

2020-12-14 04:59:44 UTC

Post by Peter Pan
It's not me preventing you from accepting the tangy
tomatoey grace of The FSM. It's only you.
Ramen.

pass the sauce

Ted

2020-02-13 00:29:00 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).
You are wankers.
Michael Christ

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase. So why you
wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

State your case. Don't just waffle into the air, Teddy. Then we can
have a good look at it. :-).
But you haven't got one have you.

You're claiming atheists claim this and claim that. So
state your case already.
Lying doesn't give you the right to sit in judgment, even
if you are Christ Lite.

I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

Well said, Peter, thank you.

Post by Peter Pan
You don't respond well to rational discussion. You flop
around from non-sequitur to leap of illogic to science
denialism to name-calling to masturbation to dick
fantasies. You are incoherent, never mind the case.
A real christ at least uses parables and illustrative
metaphors. It's time to accept that you suck at this
christing thing.

Post by Michael Christ
Perhaps you'd like to have a go to try and help Ted out??

Ted can take care of you on his own. I am free to jump
in and speak my TRVTH, and let the cards fall where they
may, as someone often says. Dry your tears, cupcake.
Take it like a christ.

LOL.

Michael Christ

2020-02-13 07:59:39 UTC

Post by Lucifer

Post by Lucifer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).
You are wankers.
Michael Christ

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase.

So why you

Post by Lucifer
wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

State your case. Don't just waffle into the air, Teddy. Then

we can

have a good look at it. :-).
But you haven't got one have you.

You're claiming atheists claim this and claim that. So
state your case already.

Post by Lucifer
Lying doesn't give you the right to sit in judgment, even

if you are Christ Lite.
I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still

waiting to

hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and >

insanely ignorant.
You've made assertions many times over, as if your say-so
is the gold standard. Assertions do not a "case" make.
"Eternal God or you made yourself" is not a case.
"I can't understand, so it's impossible" is not a case.
"I'm christ and i said so" is not a case.

Well said, Peter, thank you.

Yes, thank you Peter.

Michael Christ

Post by Lucifer

Post by Michael Christ
You don't respond well to rational discussion. You flop
around from non-sequitur to leap of illogic to science
denialism to name-calling to masturbation to dick
fantasies. You are incoherent, never mind the case.
A real christ at least uses parables and illustrative
metaphors. It's time to accept that you suck at this
christing thing.

Perhaps you'd like to have a go to try and help Ted out??

Ted can take care of you on his own. I am free to jump
in and speak my TRVTH, and let the cards fall where they
may, as someone often says. Dry your tears, cupcake.
Take it like a christ.

LOL.

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Yap Honghor

2020-02-13 02:07:15 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ >

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.

Post by Michael Christ
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.
Michael Christ

Nobody is making that claim, liar.

All atheists are making that claim, Goofy.
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??
Simple.
Isn't it?
Well??
However I can tell you now, whatever your atheist claim it will
inevitably boil down to, yeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa, everything just

Post by Michael Christ
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).
You are wankers.
Michael Christ

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase. So why you
wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

State your case. Don't just waffle into the air, Teddy. Then we can
have a good look at it. :-).
But you haven't got one have you.

You're claiming atheists claim this and claim that. So
state your case already.
Lying doesn't give you the right to sit in judgment, even
if you are Christ Lite.

I've made my case many times over, Peter Poop, and I am still waiting to
hear from your side something that is not totally ridiculous and
insanely ignorant.

What case? Where is your fucking worm up in the sky???????????

Ted

2020-02-12 21:46:19 UTC

On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 08:27:37 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Lucifer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ >

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.

Post by Michael Christ
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.
Michael Christ

Nobody is making that claim, liar.

All atheists are making that claim, Goofy.
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??
Simple.
Isn't it?
Well??
However I can tell you now, whatever your atheist claim it will
inevitably boil down to, yeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa, everything just

Post by Michael Christ
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).
You are wankers.
Michael Christ

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase. So why you
wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

State your case. Don't just waffle into the air, Teddy. Then we can
have a good look at it. :-).
But you haven't got one have you.
Michael Christ

My "case" is that you're fulla shit.

Yap Honghor

2020-02-13 02:05:38 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ >

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.

Post by Michael Christ
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.
Michael Christ

Nobody is making that claim, liar.

All atheists are making that claim, Goofy.
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??
Simple.
Isn't it?
Well??
However I can tell you now, whatever your atheist claim it will
inevitably boil down to, yeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa, everything just

Post by Michael Christ
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase. So why you
wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

State your case. Don't just waffle into the air, Teddy. Then we can
have a good look at it. :-).

What fucking case?
You theists imagined that there is a worm up in the sky, not atheists!!!!!!!

Post by Michael Christ
But you haven't got one have you.

You do not have one......that is the case, wanker!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael Christ

2020-02-13 08:06:39 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ >

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.

Post by Michael Christ
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.
Michael Christ

Nobody is making that claim, liar.

All atheists are making that claim, Goofy.
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??
Simple.
Isn't it?
Well??
However I can tell you now, whatever your atheist claim it will
inevitably boil down to, yeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa, everything just

Post by Michael Christ
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase. So why you
wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

State your case. Don't just waffle into the air, Teddy. Then we can
have a good look at it. :-).

What fucking case?

Exactly. Thank you Mr Hongdong.

Michael Christ

Post by Yap Honghor
You theists imagined that there is a worm up in the sky, not atheists!!!!!!!

Post by Michael Christ
But you haven't got one have you.

You do not have one......that is the case, wanker!!!!!!!!!!!!!

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Yap Honghor

2020-02-21 09:03:05 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 08:41:06 +1100, Michael Christ

On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 14:59:31 +1100, Michael Christ >

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.

Post by Michael Christ
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.
Michael Christ

Nobody is making that claim, liar.

All atheists are making that claim, Goofy.
If you say that is not true, then what is your claim??
Simple.
Isn't it?
Well??
However I can tell you now, whatever your atheist claim it will
inevitably boil down to, yeeeeeeehhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa, everything just

Post by Michael Christ
and all done dided went 'poop' and maded itself. :-).

That's an intentionally misleading very liberal paraphrase. So why you
wanna lie about it, motherfucker??

State your case. Don't just waffle into the air, Teddy. Then we can
have a good look at it. :-).

What fucking case?

Exactly. Thank you Mr Hongdong.

You theists have a case to look at?
2000 years have passed and am looking at it for the next 2 billion years, moron!

Michael Christ

2020-02-08 21:42:45 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Apparently the Big Bang always existed.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha...all hail big bang then!

Atheism, dumber and dumberer by the day!!

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Yap Honghor

2020-02-09 01:10:34 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Yes, no pixie can create itself if it had no parents!!!!!!!!!!!

Nature did create itself, a fact no one can deny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

michellemalkingmail.com

2020-02-21 18:33:33 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Yes, no pixie can create itself if it had no parents!!!!!!!!!!!
Nature did create itself, a fact no one can deny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nature did not create itself. Nature evolved.

MyNews Hot-Text

2020-02-08 05:05:13 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

I Said Nothig Is My God

Michael Christ
My Nothing Lives And Was Not Create

The Nonliving Can't Create A Thing
With Out The Help Of The Living

This Saith The Holy Guost
All Thing Came Out Of Nothing

I Am
0 Root Of All-Things
TAV
The End
ALEF
The Begenning
SHIN
Unto The Son

The One And Only
LAMED
I Am

That No Man Created
ALEPH

Atheists Claim A 'Thing' Happened

Just Happened That

Dan Collect And Return

From The End To The Begenning

All Things
Too IT's Rightful Owner
Heaven Or Earth

ravn

2020-02-11 21:06:51 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.

Perhaps things look deep when you're in a metaphysical hole, digging yourself in even further down the hole of whimsy.

Post by Michael Christ
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Are you sure about that? Really? "According to present-day understanding of what is called the vacuum state or the quantum vacuum, it is "by no means a simple empty space".[1][2] According to quantum mechanics, the vacuum state is not truly empty but instead contains fleeting electromagnetic waves and particles that pop into and out of existence.[3][4][5]"

[1]Astrid Lambrecht (2002). Hartmut Figger; Dieter Meschede; Claus Zimmermann (eds.). Observing mechanical dissipation in the quantum vacuum: an experimental challenge; in Laser physics at the limits. Berlin/New York: Springer. p. 197. ISBN 978-3-540-42418-5.

[2] Christopher Ray (1991). Time, space and philosophy. London/New York: Routledge. Chapter 10, p. 205. ISBN 978-0-415-03221-6.

[3]AIP Physics News Update,1996
[4] Physical Review Focus Dec. 1998

[5] Walter Dittrich & Gies H (2000). Probing the quantum vacuum: perturbative effective action approach. Berlin: Springer. ISBN 978-3-540-67428-3.

But atheism isn't a claim that something came out of nothing in the first place. You're assuming that because you're insisting that god did it, & if nothing like god did it, then in your mind, things would have to come out of nothing. But that might just be literally the case. So, now what? What objective force does your belief have over the facts?

Philosophically speaking, you would also have to consider where did god come from? If a thing as complex as god can just exist, why couldn't that be the case for anything else far less complex?

Michael Christ

2020-02-12 03:22:23 UTC

Post by ravn

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.

Perhaps things look deep when you're in a metaphysical hole, digging yourself in even further down the hole of whimsy.

Post by Michael Christ
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Are you sure about that? Really? "According to present-day understanding of what is called the vacuum state or the quantum vacuum, it is "by no means a simple empty space".[1][2] According to quantum mechanics, the vacuum state is not truly empty but instead contains fleeting electromagnetic waves and particles that pop into and out of existence.[3][4][5]"
[1]Astrid Lambrecht (2002). Hartmut Figger; Dieter Meschede; Claus Zimmermann (eds.). Observing mechanical dissipation in the quantum vacuum: an experimental challenge; in Laser physics at the limits. Berlin/New York: Springer. p. 197. ISBN 978-3-540-42418-5.
[2] Christopher Ray (1991). Time, space and philosophy. London/New York: Routledge. Chapter 10, p. 205. ISBN 978-0-415-03221-6.
[3]AIP Physics News Update,1996
[4] Physical Review Focus Dec. 1998
[5] Walter Dittrich & Gies H (2000). Probing the quantum vacuum: perturbative effective action approach. Berlin: Springer. ISBN 978-3-540-67428-3.
But atheism isn't a claim that something came out of nothing in the first place. You're assuming that because you're insisting that god did it, & if nothing like god did it, then in your mind, things would have to come out of nothing. But that might just be literally the case. So, now what? What objective force does your belief have over the facts?
Philosophically speaking, you would also have to consider where did god come from? If a thing as complex as god can just exist, why couldn't that be the case for anything else far less complex?

Sorry Raving, wank on till your dick falls off if you like,
non-existence cannot produce existence.

See how simple it is with God? :-).

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

ravn

2020-02-12 21:36:21 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
See how simple it is with God? :-).

See what a simpleton you are using god as an excuse. (That's not a question. Look at yourself, dummy.) "God" is your excuse to be a degenerate. Who are you kidding? Even yourself? Your depravity is apparently complete. Anybody with half a brain can tear the arms off of any of your assertions & stupid arguments & beat you to death with them. Feel free to keep posting your to oblige them. You must like dwelling in the world of pain.

Cloud Hobbit

2020-02-12 22:24:53 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
Sorry Raving, wank on till your dick falls off if you like,

non-existence cannot produce existence.

And still nobody here says that it did.

Nothing does not exist.
SOMETHING went bang.
SOMETHING had to already exist in order to go bang.

Nothing can cause something to do anything because nothing does not exist.
Whatever happens in the universe has SOMETHING that causes it to happen.

Should we assume a god when there is no evidence of one?

Should we ignore all the evidence for the big bang?

Should all evidence that contradicts your beliefs be ignored?

Better to accept the evidence rather than ignore it based on your beliefs.

Michael Christ

2020-02-13 04:42:59 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
Sorry Raving, wank on till your dick falls off if you like,

non-existence cannot produce existence.
And still nobody here says that it did.
Nothing does not exist.
SOMETHING went bang.
SOMETHING had to already exist in order to go bang.
Nothing can cause something to do anything because nothing does not exist.
Whatever happens in the universe has SOMETHING that causes it to happen.
Should we assume a god when there is no evidence of one?
Should we ignore all the evidence for the big bang?
Should all evidence that contradicts your beliefs be ignored?
Better to accept the evidence rather than ignore it based on your beliefs.

Like a sound belief in a something?? :-).

Did you read the Subject Title, Dickhead?

Thank you for agreeing.

Plunging into the shallows as usual, Cloudly. Everything made itself is
impossible.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Malcolm McMahon

2020-02-13 10:41:01 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Generally the idea is not that things create them selves, but that one thing creates another.

Recently physics has been looking at "retrocausality", the idea that cause and effect are not necessarily in that order. In a way, it could be that conscious life (us) guided the universe into a development path that made us possible.

Siri Cruise

2020-02-13 11:03:45 UTC

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Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Generally the idea is not that things create them selves, but that one thing
creates another.
Recently physics has been looking at "retrocausality", the idea that cause
and effect are not necessarily in that order. In a way, it could be that
conscious life (us) guided the universe into a development path that made us
possible.

So maybe we evolved by Intelligent Design and we are the
Designers.

--
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'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
The first law of discordiamism: The more energy This post / \
to make order is nore energy made into entropy. insults Islam. Mohammed

Malcolm McMahon

2020-02-13 11:38:59 UTC

Post by Siri Cruise
In article

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Generally the idea is not that things create them selves, but that one thing
creates another.
Recently physics has been looking at "retrocausality", the idea that cause
and effect are not necessarily in that order. In a way, it could be that
conscious life (us) guided the universe into a development path that made us
possible.

So maybe we evolved by Intelligent Design and we are the
Designers.

Except that intelligence is not required, just consciousness.

aaa

2020-02-14 16:37:28 UTC

Post by Siri Cruise
In article

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Generally the idea is not that things create them selves, but that one thing
creates another.
Recently physics has been looking at "retrocausality", the idea that cause
and effect are not necessarily in that order. In a way, it could be that
conscious life (us) guided the universe into a development path that made us
possible.

So maybe we evolved by Intelligent Design and we are the
Designers.

Except that intelligence is not required, just consciousness.

Same difference. Intelligence is simply consciousness on a certain level.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!

Michael Christ

2020-02-13 19:51:48 UTC

Post by Siri Cruise
In article

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Generally the idea is not that things create them selves, but that one thing
creates another.
Recently physics has been looking at "retrocausality", the idea that cause
and effect are not necessarily in that order. In a way, it could be that
conscious life (us) guided the universe into a development path that made us
possible.

So maybe we evolved by Intelligent Design and we are the
Designers.

Man is God, yeah. :-). That reminds me of a cartoon I saw once of a
man eating his own intestines.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Cloud Hobbit

2020-02-13 20:43:03 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
Man is God, yeah. :-). That reminds me of a cartoon I saw once of a

man eating his own intestines.

A selfie?

Yap Honghor

2020-02-21 09:06:47 UTC

Post by Siri Cruise
In article

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Generally the idea is not that things create them selves, but that one thing
creates another.
Recently physics has been looking at "retrocausality", the idea that cause
and effect are not necessarily in that order. In a way, it could be that
conscious life (us) guided the universe into a development path that made us
possible.

So maybe we evolved by Intelligent Design and we are the
Designers.

We are....we design all the ways we want to live and pixies are not involved!

Post by Siri Cruise
--
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\
The first law of discordiamism: The more energy This post / \
to make order is nore energy made into entropy. insults Islam. Mohammed

Malcolm McMahon

2020-02-14 08:38:16 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Generally the idea is not that things create them selves, but that one thing creates another.

Awesome, simply awesome, Malcolm. That explains how no thing, nothing
can create itself...one thing creates another! Awesome!

Post by Malcolm McMahon
Recently physics has been looking at "retrocausality", the idea that cause and effect are not necessarily in that order. In a way, it could be that conscious life (us) guided the universe into a development path that made us possible.

Conscious life did not create itself.

So, is your God not conscious, or not alive?

aaa

2020-02-14 18:29:54 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Generally the idea is not that things create them selves, but that one thing creates another.

Awesome, simply awesome, Malcolm. That explains how no thing, nothing
can create itself...one thing creates another! Awesome!

Conscious life did not create itself.

So, is your God not conscious, or not alive?

God is eternal. There is no beginning or end as far as God's existence
is concerned. Consciousness or life is only a gift of the eternal God.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!

Michael Christ

2020-02-14 20:44:28 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Generally the idea is not that things create them selves, but that one thing creates another.

Awesome, simply awesome, Malcolm. That explains how no thing, nothing
can create itself...one thing creates another! Awesome!

Conscious life did not create itself.

So, is your God not conscious, or not alive?

He is eternal life or nothing would be here (including consciousness).
No thing, nothing can create itself. The non-existent cannot bring
about existence.

It is not going change, Malcolm, no matter what spin you want to put on it.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Peter Pan

2020-02-14 22:49:42 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

Generally the idea is not that things create them selves, but that one thing creates another.

Awesome, simply awesome, Malcolm. That explains how no thing, nothing
can create itself...one thing creates another! Awesome!

Conscious life did not create itself.

So, is your God not conscious, or not alive?

He is eternal life or nothing would be here (including consciousness).
No thing, nothing can create itself. The non-existent cannot bring
about existence.
It is not going change, Malcolm, no matter what spin you want to put on it.

You're just like duke -- everything whooshes right over
you.

--
"I know the answer to every question that matters,
therefore thought is no longer necessary."
--the heart of MXian theology

LinuxGal

2020-02-15 13:07:31 UTC

Physics hasn't been "looking" at it, certain men who embrace
the Copenhagen Interpretation rather than Many Worlds or
the Pilot Wave angles are resorting to woo.

--
I have spoken.

https://twitter.com/LinuxGal

Malcolm McMahon

2020-02-13 11:40:59 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

We don't know why there's something rather than nothing and neither do you. You just use an unknowable God to hide from the unknown. Because, if there's a God, there's something.

Michael Christ

2020-02-13 19:55:59 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

We don't know why

I do!

Post by Malcolm McMahon
there's something rather than nothing and neither do you. You just use an unknowable God

He is not unknowable!

Post by Malcolm McMahon
to hide from the unknown. Because, if there's a God, there's something.

In the real world, you cannot have creation without a Creator.

The basis of your reality is you...that is your problem, self is God but
unfortunately you are not all that all-knowing.

Michael Christ

--
Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
yet sinners, Christ died for us.

"If God is not first in everything He is not first in anything."

Davej

2020-02-14 17:42:59 UTC

Post by Malcolm McMahon
there's something rather than nothing and neither do you. You
just use an unknowable God

He is not unknowable!

Oh gosh and this god is so busy sending telepathic messages
to his kook followers that he hardly has enough spare time to
take a piss. And the kook followers never accept the fact that
hearing voices in your head is a common mental disorder.

aaa

2020-02-14 16:16:47 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
I know, so deeeeeeeeeeeeppppppppppppppppppppppp.
Well, someone tell them, no thing, nothing can create itself.

We don't know why there's something rather than nothing and neither
do you. You just use an unknowable God to hide from the unknown.
Because, if there's a God, there's something.

God is spiritual. The spiritual isn't a thing. It's the reality.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!

Davej

2020-02-14 18:07:48 UTC

Post by aaa
God is spiritual. The spiritual isn't a thing. It's the reality.

Nope. The spiritual isn't a thing, and it isn't reality.

aaa

2020-02-14 18:49:53 UTC

Post by aaa
God is spiritual. The spiritual isn't a thing. It's the reality.

Nope. The spiritual isn't a thing, and it isn't reality.

Blind denial.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!

Cloud Hobbit

2020-02-14 20:00:48 UTC

Post by aaa
God is spiritual. The spiritual isn't a thing. It's the reality.

Nope. The spiritual isn't a thing, and it isn't reality.

Blind denial.

Standard response from aaa meaning I can't prove anything I just said.

Jesus is heartbroken with sadness whenever you try to speak for him.

aaa

2020-02-15 16:41:17 UTC

Post by aaa
God is spiritual. The spiritual isn't a thing. It's the reality.

Nope. The spiritual isn't a thing, and it isn't reality.

Blind denial.

Standard response from aaa meaning I can't prove anything I just said.

Just pointing out the fact.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Jesus is heartbroken with sadness whenever you try to speak for him.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!

Cloud Hobbit

2020-02-15 21:13:58 UTC

Post by Davej
Nope. The spiritual isn't a thing, and it isn't reality.

Blind denial.

Standard response from aaa meaning I can't prove anything I just said.

Just pointing out the fact.

Based on what evidence?

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Jesus is heartbroken with sadness whenever you try to speak for him.

You say the spiritual exists.
Prove it.

Cue evasion.

aaa

2020-02-16 00:13:59 UTC

Post by Davej
Nope. The spiritual isn't a thing, and it isn't reality.

Blind denial.

Standard response from aaa meaning I can't prove anything I just said.

Just pointing out the fact.

Based on what evidence?

The fact is the evidence.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Jesus is heartbroken with sadness whenever you try to speak for him.

You say the spiritual exists.
Prove it.
Cue evasion.

No evasion is needed. My signature proves it.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!

Cloud Hobbit

2020-02-17 20:16:54 UTC

Post by aaa
No evasion is needed. My signature proves it.

And there's one now.

Your Sig is just more word salad. It is proof of nothing.

2020-02-17 20:19:14 UTC

Post by aaa
No evasion is needed. My signature proves it.

And there's one now.
Your Sig is just more word salad. It is proof of nothing.

you think it's easy to prove nothing ,
at least he's proving something ,
you aren't doing anything

aaa

2020-02-18 13:41:48 UTC

Post by aaa
No evasion is needed. My signature proves it.

And there's one now.
Your Sig is just more word salad. It is proof of nothing.

That only shows your lack of understanding.
--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

God's spiritual evidence is evident in everyone.
Find it and treasure it because it's the covenant of God.
It's the reason why we are given this life on earth.
It's the foundation why we can have meaning in life.

Let's all honor our personal spiritual evidence of God for the sake of
Christ!

Davej

2020-02-14 20:56:41 UTC

Post by aaa
God is spiritual. The spiritual isn't a thing. It's the reality.

Nope. The spiritual isn't a thing, and it isn't reality.

Blind denial.

I'm not blind. You claim your gawd is INVISIBLE and SILENT.

aaa

2020-02-15 16:42:59 UTC