The Starmaker
2008-12-20 18:27:48 UTC
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The Starmaker
2008-12-20 19:08:23 UTC
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
The Starmaker
2008-12-20 19:23:21 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
The Starmaker
2008-12-20 19:54:14 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
The Starmaker
2008-12-20 22:43:45 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
The Starmaker
2008-12-20 23:17:01 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
How many years did O.J. get for stealing his own stuff?
Liberal Whisperer
2008-12-21 14:17:25 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
How many years did O.J. get for stealing his own stuff?- Hide quoted text -
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More than he did for murdering two typical white folks.Post by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
How many years did O.J. get for stealing his own stuff?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The Starmaker
2008-12-24 08:39:58 UTC
Post by Liberal Whisperer
one of them wasn't white...Post by The Starmaker
How many years did O.J. get for stealing his own stuff?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
More than he did for murdering two typical white folks.Post by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
How many years did O.J. get for stealing his own stuff?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
The Starmaker
2009-01-15 00:27:57 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
The Starmaker
2009-01-15 18:00:30 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
2009-01-15 19:01:59 UTC
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He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
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Don't put him is jail, Please.
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
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Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Hatunen
2009-01-15 19:43:36 UTC
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:01:59 -0800, The Starmaker
other words, you're talking to yourself. That's not a very good
sign.
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Weird. You're the only one posting in that whole long cascade. Inhttp://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
other words, you're talking to yourself. That's not a very good
sign.
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The Starmaker
2009-01-15 23:33:16 UTC
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
2009-01-22 18:25:34 UTC
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Post by The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
2009-01-22 21:49:48 UTC
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
Post by The Starmaker
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Post by The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
2009-01-23 18:43:00 UTC
I mean, I don't trust the "justice system", you know what I mean?
I don't think he's getting the electric chair....
If he does time it will probably be 20 years with a suspended sentence.
In otherwords, he won't do a day in jail...
and you know, ...Nature does not care about "Justice". Nature does not care
who you steal from or who you kill. "Justice" is a made up term...it does not exist.
That is why he would be dead now if she was my mother.
The Starmaker
I certaintly cannot understand why Mr. Goldman lets O.J. run around freely after he killed his son.
He's either greedy or a coward, or both.
Would you like to see Bernie Mardoff play golf?
I mean, if I have it in for somebody, and they are in jail...I cannot not wait for them to get out
of jail and let nature take it's course...
Did you know there is a nigger in the house? You people are in trouble.
Invest in Suntan lotion companies and Suntan Salons!
I notice a lot of Black people in stores spending more money then they usually would...
There is a Change alright, ...but not the Change you were expecting...
I won't be surprised right now if Israel is conspiring to send someone to assinate the President.
I don't think he's getting the electric chair....
If he does time it will probably be 20 years with a suspended sentence.
In otherwords, he won't do a day in jail...
and you know, ...Nature does not care about "Justice". Nature does not care
who you steal from or who you kill. "Justice" is a made up term...it does not exist.
That is why he would be dead now if she was my mother.
The Starmaker
I certaintly cannot understand why Mr. Goldman lets O.J. run around freely after he killed his son.
He's either greedy or a coward, or both.
Would you like to see Bernie Mardoff play golf?
I mean, if I have it in for somebody, and they are in jail...I cannot not wait for them to get out
of jail and let nature take it's course...
Did you know there is a nigger in the house? You people are in trouble.
Invest in Suntan lotion companies and Suntan Salons!
I notice a lot of Black people in stores spending more money then they usually would...
There is a Change alright, ...but not the Change you were expecting...
I won't be surprised right now if Israel is conspiring to send someone to assinate the President.
Post by The Starmaker
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
Post by The Starmaker
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Post by The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
weary flake
2009-01-28 17:26:19 UTC
Jews are evil and it is important to spread the word. But
can't you be anti-Jewish without making stupid threats?
can't you be anti-Jewish without making stupid threats?
Post by The Starmaker
I mean, I don't trust the "justice system", you know what I mean?
I don't think he's getting the electric chair....
If he does time it will probably be 20 years with a suspended sentence.
In otherwords, he won't do a day in jail...
and you know, ...Nature does not care about "Justice". Nature does not care
who you steal from or who you kill. "Justice" is a made up term...it does not exist.
That is why he would be dead now if she was my mother.
The Starmaker
I certaintly cannot understand why Mr. Goldman lets O.J. run around freely
after he killed his son.
He's either greedy or a coward, or both.
Would you like to see Bernie Mardoff play golf?
I mean, if I have it in for somebody, and they are in jail...I cannot not
wait for them to get out
of jail and let nature take it's course...
Did you know there is a nigger in the house? You people are in trouble.
Invest in Suntan lotion companies and Suntan Salons!
I notice a lot of Black people in stores spending more money then they usually would...
There is a Change alright, ...but not the Change you were expecting...
I won't be surprised right now if Israel is conspiring to send someone to
assinate the President.
I mean, I don't trust the "justice system", you know what I mean?
I don't think he's getting the electric chair....
If he does time it will probably be 20 years with a suspended sentence.
In otherwords, he won't do a day in jail...
and you know, ...Nature does not care about "Justice". Nature does not care
who you steal from or who you kill. "Justice" is a made up term...it does not exist.
That is why he would be dead now if she was my mother.
The Starmaker
I certaintly cannot understand why Mr. Goldman lets O.J. run around freely
after he killed his son.
He's either greedy or a coward, or both.
Would you like to see Bernie Mardoff play golf?
I mean, if I have it in for somebody, and they are in jail...I cannot not
wait for them to get out
of jail and let nature take it's course...
Did you know there is a nigger in the house? You people are in trouble.
Invest in Suntan lotion companies and Suntan Salons!
I notice a lot of Black people in stores spending more money then they usually would...
There is a Change alright, ...but not the Change you were expecting...
I won't be surprised right now if Israel is conspiring to send someone to
assinate the President.
Post by The Starmaker
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_ric
hes-to-rags_story.html
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_ric
hes-to-rags_story.html
Post by The Starmaker
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Post by The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever
do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever
do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
rnie_now_bulletproof_150272.htm
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed
by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to
jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the
role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bePost by The Starmaker
an impossibility, inconcievable.
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
person's name behind this atrocity!
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that'sPost by The Starmaker
conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an
alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the
streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot
"freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his
boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=649885
0&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want aPost by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is
that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each
billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bailHe deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is
that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each
billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an
alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the
streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot
"freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his
boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=649885
0&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
person's name behind this atrocity!
an impossibility, inconcievable.
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to
jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the
role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
rnie_now_bulletproof_150272.htm
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed
by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
2009-01-28 17:34:37 UTC
Post by weary flake
Jews are evil and it is important to spread the word. But
can't you be anti-Jewish without making stupid threats?
I didn't tell him to put on a bullet-proof vest. And the majority ofJews are evil and it is important to spread the word. But
can't you be anti-Jewish without making stupid threats?
his victims are Jewish...
And where did you get this "anti-jewish" idea from? Is it
something I said??
Post by weary flake
Post by The Starmaker
I mean, I don't trust the "justice system", you know what I mean?
I don't think he's getting the electric chair....
If he does time it will probably be 20 years with a suspended sentence.
In otherwords, he won't do a day in jail...
and you know, ...Nature does not care about "Justice". Nature does not care
who you steal from or who you kill. "Justice" is a made up term...it does not exist.
That is why he would be dead now if she was my mother.
The Starmaker
I certaintly cannot understand why Mr. Goldman lets O.J. run around freely
after he killed his son.
He's either greedy or a coward, or both.
Would you like to see Bernie Mardoff play golf?
I mean, if I have it in for somebody, and they are in jail...I cannot not
wait for them to get out
of jail and let nature take it's course...
Did you know there is a nigger in the house? You people are in trouble.
Invest in Suntan lotion companies and Suntan Salons!
I notice a lot of Black people in stores spending more money then they usually would...
There is a Change alright, ...but not the Change you were expecting...
I won't be surprised right now if Israel is conspiring to send someone to
assinate the President.
I mean, I don't trust the "justice system", you know what I mean?
I don't think he's getting the electric chair....
If he does time it will probably be 20 years with a suspended sentence.
In otherwords, he won't do a day in jail...
and you know, ...Nature does not care about "Justice". Nature does not care
who you steal from or who you kill. "Justice" is a made up term...it does not exist.
That is why he would be dead now if she was my mother.
The Starmaker
I certaintly cannot understand why Mr. Goldman lets O.J. run around freely
after he killed his son.
He's either greedy or a coward, or both.
Would you like to see Bernie Mardoff play golf?
I mean, if I have it in for somebody, and they are in jail...I cannot not
wait for them to get out
of jail and let nature take it's course...
Did you know there is a nigger in the house? You people are in trouble.
Invest in Suntan lotion companies and Suntan Salons!
I notice a lot of Black people in stores spending more money then they usually would...
There is a Change alright, ...but not the Change you were expecting...
I won't be surprised right now if Israel is conspiring to send someone to
assinate the President.
Post by The Starmaker
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_ric
hes-to-rags_story.html
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_ric
hes-to-rags_story.html
Post by The Starmaker
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Post by The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever
do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever
do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
rnie_now_bulletproof_150272.htm
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed
by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to
jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the
role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bePost by The Starmaker
an impossibility, inconcievable.
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
person's name behind this atrocity!
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that'sPost by The Starmaker
conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an
alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the
streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot
"freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his
boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=649885
0&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want aPost by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is
that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each
billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bailHe deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is
that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each
billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an
alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the
streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot
"freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his
boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=649885
0&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
person's name behind this atrocity!
an impossibility, inconcievable.
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to
jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the
role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
rnie_now_bulletproof_150272.htm
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed
by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
weary flake
2009-01-28 18:55:39 UTC
You're not anti-jewish? Pardon me, I mistook you for someone
with brains.
with brains.
The Starmaker
2009-01-28 20:21:41 UTC
No one ever mistoke me for with someone with brians..
The Starmaker
2009-02-03 08:01:48 UTC
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
Post by The Starmaker
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
Post by The Starmaker
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Post by The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
2009-02-05 08:01:58 UTC
Anybody you know?
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
Post by The Starmaker
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
Post by The Starmaker
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
Post by The Starmaker
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Post by The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
2009-02-05 08:04:56 UTC
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoffclientlist020409.pdf
Post by The Starmaker
Anybody you know?
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
Anybody you know?
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
Post by The Starmaker
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
Post by The Starmaker
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
Post by The Starmaker
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Post by The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
2009-02-11 23:07:28 UTC
There goes Za Za Garbor's ten million!
Ruth Madoff, the wife of Bernard Madoff, withdrew $15.5 million from a Madoff-related brokerage
firm in the weeks before Mr. Madoff's arrest, according to the Massachusetts Secretary of State.
A complaint filed Wednesday by Secretary William Galvin's office said Ruth Madoff withdrew $5.5 million
on Nov. 25 and $10 million on Dec. 10, according to documents from Cohmad Securities,
which was co-owned by Mr. Madoff and which the Massachusetts office is investigating.
Ruth Madoff, the wife of Bernard Madoff, withdrew $15.5 million from a Madoff-related brokerage
firm in the weeks before Mr. Madoff's arrest, according to the Massachusetts Secretary of State.
A complaint filed Wednesday by Secretary William Galvin's office said Ruth Madoff withdrew $5.5 million
on Nov. 25 and $10 million on Dec. 10, according to documents from Cohmad Securities,
which was co-owned by Mr. Madoff and which the Massachusetts office is investigating.
Post by The Starmaker
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoffclientlist020409.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoffclientlist020409.pdf
Post by The Starmaker
Anybody you know?
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
Anybody you know?
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
Post by The Starmaker
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
Post by The Starmaker
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
Post by The Starmaker
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Post by The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
2009-02-13 08:05:36 UTC
Bernard Madoff, the disgraced financier accused of the biggest fraud in corporate history,
was accused of having blood on his hands after a former soldier killed himself over
the loss of his familys life savings.
The son of William Foxton, 65, said his father was so distraught after
losing his familys entire savings in the alleged Ponzi scheme that he
shot himself in a park in Southampton on Tuesday with a handgun.
Mr Madoff, 70, is under penthouse arrest and 24-hour surveillance
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5720211.ece
----
I wish people would at least take the time to shoot Bernie before shooting themselves.
The Starmaker
was accused of having blood on his hands after a former soldier killed himself over
the loss of his familys life savings.
The son of William Foxton, 65, said his father was so distraught after
losing his familys entire savings in the alleged Ponzi scheme that he
shot himself in a park in Southampton on Tuesday with a handgun.
Mr Madoff, 70, is under penthouse arrest and 24-hour surveillance
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5720211.ece
----
I wish people would at least take the time to shoot Bernie before shooting themselves.
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
There goes Za Za Garbor's ten million!
Ruth Madoff, the wife of Bernard Madoff, withdrew $15.5 million from a Madoff-related brokerage
firm in the weeks before Mr. Madoff's arrest, according to the Massachusetts Secretary of State.
A complaint filed Wednesday by Secretary William Galvin's office said Ruth Madoff withdrew $5.5 million
on Nov. 25 and $10 million on Dec. 10, according to documents from Cohmad Securities,
which was co-owned by Mr. Madoff and which the Massachusetts office is investigating.
There goes Za Za Garbor's ten million!
Ruth Madoff, the wife of Bernard Madoff, withdrew $15.5 million from a Madoff-related brokerage
firm in the weeks before Mr. Madoff's arrest, according to the Massachusetts Secretary of State.
A complaint filed Wednesday by Secretary William Galvin's office said Ruth Madoff withdrew $5.5 million
on Nov. 25 and $10 million on Dec. 10, according to documents from Cohmad Securities,
which was co-owned by Mr. Madoff and which the Massachusetts office is investigating.
Post by The Starmaker
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoffclientlist020409.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoffclientlist020409.pdf
Post by The Starmaker
Anybody you know?
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
Anybody you know?
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
Post by The Starmaker
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
Post by The Starmaker
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
Post by The Starmaker
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Post by The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
2009-02-13 17:35:14 UTC
What I like to see in the headlines of the New York Post is:
MAN SHOOTS BERNARD MADOFF THEN SHOOTS HIMSELF
I'm pretty sure The New York Post has the type set-up already. They
are just waiting for it to happen so they can print it....
The NewsMaker
MAN SHOOTS BERNARD MADOFF THEN SHOOTS HIMSELF
I'm pretty sure The New York Post has the type set-up already. They
are just waiting for it to happen so they can print it....
The NewsMaker
Post by The Starmaker
Bernard Madoff, the disgraced financier accused of the biggest fraud in corporate history,
was accused of having blood on his hands after a former soldier killed himself over
the loss of his familys life savings.
The son of William Foxton, 65, said his father was so distraught after
losing his familys entire savings in the alleged Ponzi scheme that he
shot himself in a park in Southampton on Tuesday with a handgun.
Mr Madoff, 70, is under penthouse arrest and 24-hour surveillance
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5720211.ece
----
I wish people would at least take the time to shoot Bernie before shooting themselves.
The Starmaker
Bernard Madoff, the disgraced financier accused of the biggest fraud in corporate history,
was accused of having blood on his hands after a former soldier killed himself over
the loss of his familys life savings.
The son of William Foxton, 65, said his father was so distraught after
losing his familys entire savings in the alleged Ponzi scheme that he
shot himself in a park in Southampton on Tuesday with a handgun.
Mr Madoff, 70, is under penthouse arrest and 24-hour surveillance
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5720211.ece
----
I wish people would at least take the time to shoot Bernie before shooting themselves.
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
There goes Za Za Garbor's ten million!
Ruth Madoff, the wife of Bernard Madoff, withdrew $15.5 million from a Madoff-related brokerage
firm in the weeks before Mr. Madoff's arrest, according to the Massachusetts Secretary of State.
A complaint filed Wednesday by Secretary William Galvin's office said Ruth Madoff withdrew $5.5 million
on Nov. 25 and $10 million on Dec. 10, according to documents from Cohmad Securities,
which was co-owned by Mr. Madoff and which the Massachusetts office is investigating.
There goes Za Za Garbor's ten million!
Ruth Madoff, the wife of Bernard Madoff, withdrew $15.5 million from a Madoff-related brokerage
firm in the weeks before Mr. Madoff's arrest, according to the Massachusetts Secretary of State.
A complaint filed Wednesday by Secretary William Galvin's office said Ruth Madoff withdrew $5.5 million
on Nov. 25 and $10 million on Dec. 10, according to documents from Cohmad Securities,
which was co-owned by Mr. Madoff and which the Massachusetts office is investigating.
Post by The Starmaker
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoffclientlist020409.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoffclientlist020409.pdf
Post by The Starmaker
Anybody you know?
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
Anybody you know?
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
Post by The Starmaker
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
Post by The Starmaker
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
Post by The Starmaker
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Post by The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
The Starmaker
2009-02-16 18:37:02 UTC
At least in Russia, they are not afraid and know how to handle a guy like Bernie...
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123480036507593325.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123480036507593325.html
Post by The Starmaker
MAN SHOOTS BERNARD MADOFF THEN SHOOTS HIMSELF
I'm pretty sure The New York Post has the type set-up already. They
are just waiting for it to happen so they can print it....
The NewsMaker
MAN SHOOTS BERNARD MADOFF THEN SHOOTS HIMSELF
I'm pretty sure The New York Post has the type set-up already. They
are just waiting for it to happen so they can print it....
The NewsMaker
Post by The Starmaker
Bernard Madoff, the disgraced financier accused of the biggest fraud in corporate history,
was accused of having blood on his hands after a former soldier killed himself over
the loss of his familys life savings.
The son of William Foxton, 65, said his father was so distraught after
losing his familys entire savings in the alleged Ponzi scheme that he
shot himself in a park in Southampton on Tuesday with a handgun.
Mr Madoff, 70, is under penthouse arrest and 24-hour surveillance
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5720211.ece
----
I wish people would at least take the time to shoot Bernie before shooting themselves.
The Starmaker
Bernard Madoff, the disgraced financier accused of the biggest fraud in corporate history,
was accused of having blood on his hands after a former soldier killed himself over
the loss of his familys life savings.
The son of William Foxton, 65, said his father was so distraught after
losing his familys entire savings in the alleged Ponzi scheme that he
shot himself in a park in Southampton on Tuesday with a handgun.
Mr Madoff, 70, is under penthouse arrest and 24-hour surveillance
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5720211.ece
----
I wish people would at least take the time to shoot Bernie before shooting themselves.
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
There goes Za Za Garbor's ten million!
Ruth Madoff, the wife of Bernard Madoff, withdrew $15.5 million from a Madoff-related brokerage
firm in the weeks before Mr. Madoff's arrest, according to the Massachusetts Secretary of State.
A complaint filed Wednesday by Secretary William Galvin's office said Ruth Madoff withdrew $5.5 million
on Nov. 25 and $10 million on Dec. 10, according to documents from Cohmad Securities,
which was co-owned by Mr. Madoff and which the Massachusetts office is investigating.
There goes Za Za Garbor's ten million!
Ruth Madoff, the wife of Bernard Madoff, withdrew $15.5 million from a Madoff-related brokerage
firm in the weeks before Mr. Madoff's arrest, according to the Massachusetts Secretary of State.
A complaint filed Wednesday by Secretary William Galvin's office said Ruth Madoff withdrew $5.5 million
on Nov. 25 and $10 million on Dec. 10, according to documents from Cohmad Securities,
which was co-owned by Mr. Madoff and which the Massachusetts office is investigating.
Post by The Starmaker
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoffclientlist020409.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoffclientlist020409.pdf
Post by The Starmaker
Anybody you know?
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
Anybody you know?
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
Post by The Starmaker
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
The next big thing, I believe will be bigger than Bernie Mardoff is, ...Medical-Billing Fraud.
What doctor is commiting the biggest medical-billing fraud? Bigger than Bernie??
It sure ain't no slumdog doctor...
Post by The Starmaker
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
If she was my mother, he would be dead right now!
http://www.philly.com/philly/hp/news_update/20090122_West_Goshen_widow_s_riches-to-rags_story.html
Post by The Starmaker
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Posted on Thu, Jan. 22, 2009
West Goshen widow's riches-to-rags story
By Harold Brubaker
Inquirer Staff Writer
When Maureen Ebel's uncle called her at 10:45 p.m. Dec. 11, she feared a
death in the family.
Instead, her Uncle Leonard gave Ebel news of another kind of disaster
that would upend her life: New York investment manager Bernard L. Madoff
had been charged with massive fraud.
Ebel, 60, a widow who lives outside West Chester and winters near West
Palm Beach, thought she had $7.3 million with Madoff.
It became sickeningly clear over the next day or so that all her money
was gone. "The thought that I have to work now as long as I can stand up
to feed myself" shattered her comfortable world, she said.
Six days after Madoff's arrest for allegedly bilking investors in a $50
billion Ponzi scheme, Ebel had a strenuous temporary job caring for a
wealthy friend's 93-year-old mother and keeping her house, pushing the
vacuum cleaner and ironing.
"The first day, I went home and cried," Ebel said.
Ebel, a retired nurse with blond hair and big blue eyes set on a broad
face that turns red with emotion, is no stranger to hard work. She got
her first job at age 14. But she believed she had moved on for good.
Not so.
"This is my fate," said Ebel, who is still pained by her husband's death
in 2000, when he was just 53.
"I was married, had a fabulous marriage to a man I loved and worshiped,
a physician. We traveled. We had a very fine life. And he's dead. He
died, and every penny I had in the world has been stolen."
During an interview in the living room of her four-bedroom colonial on a
West Goshen Township cul-de-sac, Ebel swung between despair over her
losses, anger that Madoff still calls a Manhattan penthouse home after
ruining thousands, and determination to build a new life.
Her friends are not surprised. "Her attitude is: This is not going to
lick me," said Marlene Bezark, a West Conshohocken resident who has
known Ebel for 35 years.
Ebel, who was born in Philadelphia and has lived in Chester County since
she was 6 years old, is making big and small moves to battle back.
She listed her Florida condo with a real estate agent and put her Lexus
SUV up for sale on eBay, hoping to sell it before the next $690 payment
is due Feb. 15.
Selling the two-bedroom condo, which was appraised at $400,000 several
years ago, is excruciating because her late husband was so happy there.
"It was like a chunk of my husband that I still had," Ebel said.
But if the condo fails to sell in the miserable Florida real estate
market, she cannot imagine what will happen.
To have any hope of making the $2,400-a-month payments on her house in
West Chester, she will have to get recertified as a nurse, go back to
work and take in a boarder, said Ebel, speaking with her hands to
illustrate her feeling that parts of her body are being torn away.
She has already sold small items to scrape dollars together: a Ping-Pong
table from her basement for $400, a painting for $1,500, jewelry for
$1,100.
When she got to Florida on Monday to work on selling the condo, she
remembered that she could return a $1,300 television to Costco.
Already last month, she returned thousands of dollars of items she had
paid for with her American Express card, including a $5,400 set of porch
furniture bought Dec. 9, a $5,000 club membership, and a $1,200 pair of
earrings.
The first time she went to her local Publix supermarket in Florida after
Madoff's fraud came out, she had a new experience picking out cream for
her coffee.
Normally she would take whatever she wanted and put it in the cart, not
paying much attention to prices on such a small item. But that time, she
looked at the price of every single cream until she spotted a
two-for-one sale. "Ah! That's for me," she recalled.
Then she came to a big display of two-for-one canned goods. "I'm rooting
through the canned goods. What do I eat? Corn, I'll eat that. String
beans, I'll eat that. Two-for-one. This is what it is after having had
an income of $400,000 a year."
Ebel's uncle, 80, a longtime Madoff investor, got Ebel into Madoff's
fund after her husband's death, thinking he was setting her up for life,
Ebel said. "At that time, when he got me into Madoff, he had been a
Madoff investor for 25 years, and now he's a Madoff investor and broke
after 30 years," she said.
Ebel invested $4.5 million with Madoff starting in 2003. That was all of
her assets except for one $50,000 bond, which she cashed last month.
Ebel kept her monthly statements from Madoff (that, for all the world,
look real), collecting each year's in a separate folder. On the outside
of each folder Ebel wrote detailed summaries of the statements.
"When you look at the statements, which are probably all bogus, you can
see that he's just trading blue chips, Johnson & Johnson, Microsoft,
Coca-Cola, Wachovia, Abbott, Pfizer," said Ebel, showing an example from
December 2007. "I got one of these every single month, and without fail
I got my check every quarter."
In disgust, Ebel flipped through a 6-inch stack of transaction receipts
on supposed trades for her account.
Ebel, who has registered with the FBI as a Madoff victim and is
preparing documents to substantiate a claim, has decided that Madoff is
a sociopath. Asked what she would do if she were alone with him, she
said: "You can't print it."
She has suffered indignities, and kindnesses.
She was finally dating someone, but he is gone. "I wasn't the person I
was. I got up and went to work everyday," she said. "I was working six
days a week, and I'm tired when I get home."
On the other hand, a doctor who treated her for depression after her
husband's death found her a sleep aid that costs just $4 a month, Ebel
said.
Getting a good night's sleep is a relief, but it has not cast off her
sense of irreality.
"Down in Florida, I live in this beautiful place, and I feel like an
alien walking around. Everyone is going riding their horses and playing
tennis, playing golf," Ebel said.
"If there's a nickel on the street, I'm picking it up."
Post by The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Now, I find it an impossibility and inconcievable that Bernie will ever do a day in jail...
(from what I understand how the justice system in the U.S. works)
but there is a possibility that he'll die before the years end.
I would say within the next 3 months.
Either he kills himself, or somebody kills him first.
So how much you wanna bet (A Dead Pool)
that he doesn't live to see 90 days more?
I'm predicting that within 90 days he'll be dead.
I'm collecting a Dead Pool Hedge Fund. I'm calling it
"The Bernie Mardoff Dead Pool Hedge Fund". That means all the
other dead pools go into my dead pool fund.
He might jump
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
or get shot to death on Park Avenue...
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
90 days and he'll be dead.
So, if you want to get in on my Bernie Dead Pool,
it's by Invitation Only...
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/madoff.jpg
He needs a bullet proof vest covering his head
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/photos/new0m.jpg
Don't put him is jail, Please.
Post by The Starmaker
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/01152009/news/regionalnews/frightened_bernie_now_bulletproof_150272.htmPost by The Starmaker
JANUARY 14, 2009, 6:32 P.M. ETPost by The Starmaker
Of course we all know he won't do a day in jail because that's an impossibility, inconcievable.Post by The Starmaker
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's name behind this atrocity!Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions of alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff,He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
eliminating a provision that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to "freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
NEW YORK -- A federal judge denied another bid by prosecutors to jail disgraced financier Bernard Madoff pending trial.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123195892891982219.html
You don't put a guy like this in jail....
you let him walk down Park Avenue, Central Park...
and let anybody that wants to, to shoot him.
It is much much better than our U.S. court system.
In otherwords, a death sentence.
The Starmaker
It will make great TV two!
Think of the ratings!
The movie deals!
Of course Hollywood would have to get an Italian guy to play the role of Bernie Madoff...
They will probably change his name to Bernito Madoffa!!
FRIGHTENED BERNIE NOW BULLETPROOF
DONS VEST AS MOB RAGES ON PARK AVE.
Despite remaining free - albeit under house arrest -
there were several signs that Madoff's days and nights are consumed by fear that he'll be killed by one of his enraged investors.
Shoot for the head!
The Starmaker
Pogrom
2009-02-14 00:32:40 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
Bernard Madoff, the disgraced financier accused of the biggest fraud
in corporate history, was accused of having blood on his hands after
a former soldier killed himself over the loss of his familys life
savings.
The son of William Foxton, 65, said his father was so distraught after
losing his familys entire savings in the alleged Ponzi scheme that he
shot himself in a park in Southampton on Tuesday with a handgun.
Mr Madoff, 70, is under penthouse arrest and 24-hour surveillance
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking
_and_finance/article5720211.ece
----
I wish people would at least take the time to shoot Bernie before shooting themselves.
Wouldn't make any difference.Bernard Madoff, the disgraced financier accused of the biggest fraud
in corporate history, was accused of having blood on his hands after
a former soldier killed himself over the loss of his familys life
savings.
The son of William Foxton, 65, said his father was so distraught after
losing his familys entire savings in the alleged Ponzi scheme that he
shot himself in a park in Southampton on Tuesday with a handgun.
Mr Madoff, 70, is under penthouse arrest and 24-hour surveillance
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking
_and_finance/article5720211.ece
----
I wish people would at least take the time to shoot Bernie before shooting themselves.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3327787/Der_Ewige_Jude_-
_The_Eternal_Jew_-_1940_-_(English_subs)
Bluuuue Rajah
2008-12-21 14:11:01 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
behind this atrocity!
You're talking to yourself.Post by The Starmaker
alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff, eliminating a provision
that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to
"freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely
walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
And what do they mean by "The U.S. Government"? I want a person's namePost by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
"The U.S. Government moved today to tighten the bail conditions ofHe deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
alleged financial fraudster Bernard Madoff, eliminating a provision
that allowed the man behind an alleged $50 billion Ponzi scheme to
"freely walk the streets"."
Whoa! The U.S. Government is getting tough now!! He cannot "freely
walk the streets". He must be shaking in his boots...
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Blotter/WallStreet/story?id=6498850&page=1
That is really harsh.
What's next?
behind this atrocity!
Bryan Olson
2008-12-22 00:49:50 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
First there's this little matter of convicting him in court.He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
--
--Bryan
--Bryan
Adam H
2008-12-23 02:30:51 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
Other countries would execute him. 50 billion is a lot. Maybe we shouldHe deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
execute him.
The Starmaker
2008-12-24 09:01:49 UTC
Post by Adam H
execute him.
"The broad reach of the alleged scandal was on stark display with thePost by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
Other countries would execute him. 50 billion is a lot. Maybe we shouldHe deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
execute him.
apparent suicide of Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, the co-founder of
Access International Advisors, who was found dead Tuesday in his
Manhattan office after apparently suffering losses of $1.5 billion in
the alleged fraud perpetrated by Mr. Madoff."
Maybe all the people who lost money should all commit suicide, ...in
front of Paula Abdul's house.
The Starmaker
2008-12-24 09:27:22 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
apparent suicide of Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, the co-founder of
Access International Advisors, who was found dead Tuesday in his
Manhattan office after apparently suffering losses of $1.5 billion in
the alleged fraud perpetrated by Mr. Madoff."
Maybe all the people who lost money should all commit suicide, ...in
front of Paula Abdul's house.
The co-founder of an investment advisory firm that lost $1.5 billion inPost by Adam H
execute him.
"The broad reach of the alleged scandal was on stark display with thePost by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
Other countries would execute him. 50 billion is a lot. Maybe we shouldHe deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
execute him.
apparent suicide of Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, the co-founder of
Access International Advisors, who was found dead Tuesday in his
Manhattan office after apparently suffering losses of $1.5 billion in
the alleged fraud perpetrated by Mr. Madoff."
Maybe all the people who lost money should all commit suicide, ...in
front of Paula Abdul's house.
the Madoff scandal was found dead Tuesday in an apparent suicide in his
Manhattan office, police said.
Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, 65 years old, was pronounced dead about
8 a.m. New York City police said they believe the death to be a suicide
but were awaiting results of an autopsy to be completed Wednesday.
[Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, found with pills, box cutter nearby.]
Patrick McMullan/Sipa
Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, found with pills, box cutter nearby.
Workers discovered Mr. de La Villehuchet's body about 7:30 Tuesday
morning at the Madison Avenue offices of Access International Advisors,
police said. Mr. de La Villehuchet had lacerations on his arms, and
police found a box cutter nearby as well as a bottle of what appeared to
be sleeping pills.
If the death was associated with Mr. Madoff's alleged fraud scheme, it
will be the highest-profile tragedy yet in a case that has touched
investors world-wide.
--------------
I don't understand...
Why don't they or these people just *shoot* Mr. Madoff? adoff? Bernie?
Whatever his name is.
If they are wondering where the money went, he's living in it now! Shoot
him and he won't be
living in it...
Stop asking where the money went, it's simple, ...he spent it.
The Starmaker
2008-12-26 19:28:40 UTC
"Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
Thank God, in the U.S. they don't allow the Bernie's in the world to own Banks.
A Hedge Fund is really a unregulated bank...
The lesson here is...
If you want to rip-off Jewish people of their money, and you're not Jewish...
hire Jewish people to work for you, front for you...because they have this thing
called "Trust" among them that you can take advantage of and profit from.
The Starmaker
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
Thank God, in the U.S. they don't allow the Bernie's in the world to own Banks.
A Hedge Fund is really a unregulated bank...
The lesson here is...
If you want to rip-off Jewish people of their money, and you're not Jewish...
hire Jewish people to work for you, front for you...because they have this thing
called "Trust" among them that you can take advantage of and profit from.
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
the Madoff scandal was found dead Tuesday in an apparent suicide in his
Manhattan office, police said.
Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, 65 years old, was pronounced dead about
8 a.m. New York City police said they believe the death to be a suicide
but were awaiting results of an autopsy to be completed Wednesday.
[Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, found with pills, box cutter nearby.]
Patrick McMullan/Sipa
Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, found with pills, box cutter nearby.
Workers discovered Mr. de La Villehuchet's body about 7:30 Tuesday
morning at the Madison Avenue offices of Access International Advisors,
police said. Mr. de La Villehuchet had lacerations on his arms, and
police found a box cutter nearby as well as a bottle of what appeared to
be sleeping pills.
If the death was associated with Mr. Madoff's alleged fraud scheme, it
will be the highest-profile tragedy yet in a case that has touched
investors world-wide.
--------------
I don't understand...
Why don't they or these people just *shoot* Mr. Madoff? adoff? Bernie?
Whatever his name is.
If they are wondering where the money went, he's living in it now! Shoot
him and he won't be
living in it...
Stop asking where the money went, it's simple, ...he spent it.
Post by The Starmaker
apparent suicide of Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, the co-founder of
Access International Advisors, who was found dead Tuesday in his
Manhattan office after apparently suffering losses of $1.5 billion in
the alleged fraud perpetrated by Mr. Madoff."
Maybe all the people who lost money should all commit suicide, ...in
front of Paula Abdul's house.
The co-founder of an investment advisory firm that lost $1.5 billion inPost by Adam H
execute him.
"The broad reach of the alleged scandal was on stark display with thePost by The Starmaker
He deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
Other countries would execute him. 50 billion is a lot. Maybe we shouldHe deserves at least *one* night in jail. Come on, is that too much to ask?
Come on, just one night...
Okay, I'll be reasonable, how about a couple of hours?
That's still too much. How about a minute for each billion?
50 minutes.
Is that too much to ask?
50 minutes, come on!
Come on, he's a nice guy...he made a mistake, so what.
execute him.
apparent suicide of Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, the co-founder of
Access International Advisors, who was found dead Tuesday in his
Manhattan office after apparently suffering losses of $1.5 billion in
the alleged fraud perpetrated by Mr. Madoff."
Maybe all the people who lost money should all commit suicide, ...in
front of Paula Abdul's house.
the Madoff scandal was found dead Tuesday in an apparent suicide in his
Manhattan office, police said.
Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, 65 years old, was pronounced dead about
8 a.m. New York City police said they believe the death to be a suicide
but were awaiting results of an autopsy to be completed Wednesday.
[Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, found with pills, box cutter nearby.]
Patrick McMullan/Sipa
Thierry Magon de La Villehuchet, found with pills, box cutter nearby.
Workers discovered Mr. de La Villehuchet's body about 7:30 Tuesday
morning at the Madison Avenue offices of Access International Advisors,
police said. Mr. de La Villehuchet had lacerations on his arms, and
police found a box cutter nearby as well as a bottle of what appeared to
be sleeping pills.
If the death was associated with Mr. Madoff's alleged fraud scheme, it
will be the highest-profile tragedy yet in a case that has touched
investors world-wide.
--------------
I don't understand...
Why don't they or these people just *shoot* Mr. Madoff? adoff? Bernie?
Whatever his name is.
If they are wondering where the money went, he's living in it now! Shoot
him and he won't be
living in it...
Stop asking where the money went, it's simple, ...he spent it.
The Starmaker
2008-12-27 21:06:47 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
"Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
I know you're saying to yourself....lawyers and doctors are not criminal enterprises."Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
The Starmaker
2008-12-28 05:43:22 UTC
The most dangerous gangster in the world is Semion Mogilevich.
He just happen to be Jewish. Do you know how he got started?
He took advantage of this thing called "trust" between Jewish
people, like Bernie Madoff did.....
"Semion Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the
mid 1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
profits."
If Bernie sons had kept their mouth quiet, Bernie would still be doing
business as usual.
I guess Bernie made a mistake, he "trusted" his sons.
In Hollywood, the movie factory...do you know what "Trust Me" means?
Q: How do you say Fuck You in Hollywood?
A: Trust me.
He just happen to be Jewish. Do you know how he got started?
He took advantage of this thing called "trust" between Jewish
people, like Bernie Madoff did.....
"Semion Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the
mid 1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
profits."
If Bernie sons had kept their mouth quiet, Bernie would still be doing
business as usual.
I guess Bernie made a mistake, he "trusted" his sons.
In Hollywood, the movie factory...do you know what "Trust Me" means?
Q: How do you say Fuck You in Hollywood?
A: Trust me.
Post by The Starmaker
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
Post by The Starmaker
"Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
I know you're saying to yourself....lawyers and doctors are not criminal enterprises."Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
The Starmaker
2008-12-29 02:23:05 UTC
besides everybody else....
Does anybody know exactly how much money did Steven Spielberg lose?
I know that Jeffery Katzenberg lost millions.
And I know that Steven Spielberg was a "long time" client of Bernie....
And I know that Steven Spielberg has more money than Jeffery Katzenberg...
But I don't know how much Steven Spielberg lost...
Does anybody know?
The Starmaker
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/SKG/skg.html
I think Jeffery is the one on the left...
Does anybody know exactly how much money did Steven Spielberg lose?
I know that Jeffery Katzenberg lost millions.
And I know that Steven Spielberg was a "long time" client of Bernie....
And I know that Steven Spielberg has more money than Jeffery Katzenberg...
But I don't know how much Steven Spielberg lost...
Does anybody know?
The Starmaker
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/SKG/skg.html
I think Jeffery is the one on the left...
Post by The Starmaker
The most dangerous gangster in the world is Semion Mogilevich.
He just happen to be Jewish. Do you know how he got started?
He took advantage of this thing called "trust" between Jewish
people, like Bernie Madoff did.....
"Semion Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the
mid 1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
profits."
If Bernie sons had kept their mouth quiet, Bernie would still be doing
business as usual.
I guess Bernie made a mistake, he "trusted" his sons.
In Hollywood, the movie factory...do you know what "Trust Me" means?
Q: How do you say Fuck You in Hollywood?
A: Trust me.
The most dangerous gangster in the world is Semion Mogilevich.
He just happen to be Jewish. Do you know how he got started?
He took advantage of this thing called "trust" between Jewish
people, like Bernie Madoff did.....
"Semion Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the
mid 1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
profits."
If Bernie sons had kept their mouth quiet, Bernie would still be doing
business as usual.
I guess Bernie made a mistake, he "trusted" his sons.
In Hollywood, the movie factory...do you know what "Trust Me" means?
Q: How do you say Fuck You in Hollywood?
A: Trust me.
Post by The Starmaker
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
Post by The Starmaker
"Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
I know you're saying to yourself....lawyers and doctors are not criminal enterprises."Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
The Starmaker
2008-12-30 22:48:43 UTC
Now, you people in soc.culture.jewish newsgroup...
you're going to have to re-think about this "culture" thing of
yours about easily trusting other Jewish people just because they happen to be
Jewish, whether friends, family or strangers. That's a jewsih culture lie.
You cannot trust nobody! Especially if they are Jewish!!
So stop telling your children that if they do business with
another Jewish person, you can trust them. That's a lie.
It's never been true.
What is that sign you put in your stores say, "IN God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash".
"All" is the operative word.
Yet, I continue to see two Jewish persons meeting for the first time and
automatically trusting one another...
I'm flabergasted when I see that.
Especially when I know both of them are gonifs.
The Starmaker
you're going to have to re-think about this "culture" thing of
yours about easily trusting other Jewish people just because they happen to be
Jewish, whether friends, family or strangers. That's a jewsih culture lie.
You cannot trust nobody! Especially if they are Jewish!!
So stop telling your children that if they do business with
another Jewish person, you can trust them. That's a lie.
It's never been true.
What is that sign you put in your stores say, "IN God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash".
"All" is the operative word.
Yet, I continue to see two Jewish persons meeting for the first time and
automatically trusting one another...
I'm flabergasted when I see that.
Especially when I know both of them are gonifs.
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
The most dangerous gangster in the world is Semion Mogilevich.
He just happen to be Jewish. Do you know how he got started?
He took advantage of this thing called "trust" between Jewish
people, like Bernie Madoff did.....
"Semion Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the
mid 1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
profits."
If Bernie sons had kept their mouth quiet, Bernie would still be doing
business as usual.
I guess Bernie made a mistake, he "trusted" his sons.
In Hollywood, the movie factory...do you know what "Trust Me" means?
Q: How do you say Fuck You in Hollywood?
A: Trust me.
The most dangerous gangster in the world is Semion Mogilevich.
He just happen to be Jewish. Do you know how he got started?
He took advantage of this thing called "trust" between Jewish
people, like Bernie Madoff did.....
"Semion Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the
mid 1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
profits."
If Bernie sons had kept their mouth quiet, Bernie would still be doing
business as usual.
I guess Bernie made a mistake, he "trusted" his sons.
In Hollywood, the movie factory...do you know what "Trust Me" means?
Q: How do you say Fuck You in Hollywood?
A: Trust me.
Post by The Starmaker
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
Post by The Starmaker
"Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
I know you're saying to yourself....lawyers and doctors are not criminal enterprises."Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
The Starmaker
2009-01-10 00:49:13 UTC
He steals 50 billion and all of a sudden they are "considering" throwing him
in jail because of a watch?
Something is wrong in the world but I cannot figure out what it is.
Let me get this straight, it's okay to steal 50 billion dollars, but don't
take off your watch and mail it to Florida cause that can get you in jail?
I'm missing something here...
but I'm not going to wear a watch anymore!
Does anybody know what time it is?
in jail because of a watch?
Something is wrong in the world but I cannot figure out what it is.
Let me get this straight, it's okay to steal 50 billion dollars, but don't
take off your watch and mail it to Florida cause that can get you in jail?
I'm missing something here...
but I'm not going to wear a watch anymore!
Does anybody know what time it is?
Post by The Starmaker
Now, you people in soc.culture.jewish newsgroup...
you're going to have to re-think about this "culture" thing of
yours about easily trusting other Jewish people just because they happen to be
Jewish, whether friends, family or strangers. That's a jewsih culture lie.
You cannot trust nobody! Especially if they are Jewish!!
So stop telling your children that if they do business with
another Jewish person, you can trust them. That's a lie.
It's never been true.
What is that sign you put in your stores say, "IN God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash".
"All" is the operative word.
Yet, I continue to see two Jewish persons meeting for the first time and
automatically trusting one another...
I'm flabergasted when I see that.
Especially when I know both of them are gonifs.
The Starmaker
Now, you people in soc.culture.jewish newsgroup...
you're going to have to re-think about this "culture" thing of
yours about easily trusting other Jewish people just because they happen to be
Jewish, whether friends, family or strangers. That's a jewsih culture lie.
You cannot trust nobody! Especially if they are Jewish!!
So stop telling your children that if they do business with
another Jewish person, you can trust them. That's a lie.
It's never been true.
What is that sign you put in your stores say, "IN God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash".
"All" is the operative word.
Yet, I continue to see two Jewish persons meeting for the first time and
automatically trusting one another...
I'm flabergasted when I see that.
Especially when I know both of them are gonifs.
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
The most dangerous gangster in the world is Semion Mogilevich.
He just happen to be Jewish. Do you know how he got started?
He took advantage of this thing called "trust" between Jewish
people, like Bernie Madoff did.....
"Semion Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the
mid 1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
profits."
If Bernie sons had kept their mouth quiet, Bernie would still be doing
business as usual.
I guess Bernie made a mistake, he "trusted" his sons.
In Hollywood, the movie factory...do you know what "Trust Me" means?
Q: How do you say Fuck You in Hollywood?
A: Trust me.
The most dangerous gangster in the world is Semion Mogilevich.
He just happen to be Jewish. Do you know how he got started?
He took advantage of this thing called "trust" between Jewish
people, like Bernie Madoff did.....
"Semion Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the
mid 1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
profits."
If Bernie sons had kept their mouth quiet, Bernie would still be doing
business as usual.
I guess Bernie made a mistake, he "trusted" his sons.
In Hollywood, the movie factory...do you know what "Trust Me" means?
Q: How do you say Fuck You in Hollywood?
A: Trust me.
Post by The Starmaker
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
Post by The Starmaker
"Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
I know you're saying to yourself....lawyers and doctors are not criminal enterprises."Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
Hatunen
2009-01-10 21:40:26 UTC
On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:49:13 -0800, The Starmaker
If so I cant imagine why
Post by The Starmaker
He steals 50 billion and all of a sudden they are "considering" throwing him
in jail because of a watch?
Something is wrong in the world but I cannot figure out what it is.
Let me get this straight, it's okay to steal 50 billion dollars, but don't
take off your watch and mail it to Florida cause that can get you in jail?
I'm missing something here...
but I'm not going to wear a watch anymore!
Does anybody know what time it is?
Does anybody really careHe steals 50 billion and all of a sudden they are "considering" throwing him
in jail because of a watch?
Something is wrong in the world but I cannot figure out what it is.
Let me get this straight, it's okay to steal 50 billion dollars, but don't
take off your watch and mail it to Florida cause that can get you in jail?
I'm missing something here...
but I'm not going to wear a watch anymore!
Does anybody know what time it is?
If so I cant imagine why
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* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
************* DAVE HATUNEN (***@cox.net) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
The Starmaker
2009-01-12 18:26:27 UTC
Judge allows money manager Madoff to remain free
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95LOC7G0&show_article=1
Thank God I can still wear a watch!
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95LOC7G0&show_article=1
Thank God I can still wear a watch!
Post by The Starmaker
He steals 50 billion and all of a sudden they are "considering" throwing him
in jail because of a watch?
Something is wrong in the world but I cannot figure out what it is.
Let me get this straight, it's okay to steal 50 billion dollars, but don't
take off your watch and mail it to Florida cause that can get you in jail?
I'm missing something here...
but I'm not going to wear a watch anymore!
Does anybody know what time it is?
He steals 50 billion and all of a sudden they are "considering" throwing him
in jail because of a watch?
Something is wrong in the world but I cannot figure out what it is.
Let me get this straight, it's okay to steal 50 billion dollars, but don't
take off your watch and mail it to Florida cause that can get you in jail?
I'm missing something here...
but I'm not going to wear a watch anymore!
Does anybody know what time it is?
Post by The Starmaker
Now, you people in soc.culture.jewish newsgroup...
you're going to have to re-think about this "culture" thing of
yours about easily trusting other Jewish people just because they happen to be
Jewish, whether friends, family or strangers. That's a jewsih culture lie.
You cannot trust nobody! Especially if they are Jewish!!
So stop telling your children that if they do business with
another Jewish person, you can trust them. That's a lie.
It's never been true.
What is that sign you put in your stores say, "IN God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash".
"All" is the operative word.
Yet, I continue to see two Jewish persons meeting for the first time and
automatically trusting one another...
I'm flabergasted when I see that.
Especially when I know both of them are gonifs.
The Starmaker
Now, you people in soc.culture.jewish newsgroup...
you're going to have to re-think about this "culture" thing of
yours about easily trusting other Jewish people just because they happen to be
Jewish, whether friends, family or strangers. That's a jewsih culture lie.
You cannot trust nobody! Especially if they are Jewish!!
So stop telling your children that if they do business with
another Jewish person, you can trust them. That's a lie.
It's never been true.
What is that sign you put in your stores say, "IN God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash".
"All" is the operative word.
Yet, I continue to see two Jewish persons meeting for the first time and
automatically trusting one another...
I'm flabergasted when I see that.
Especially when I know both of them are gonifs.
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
The most dangerous gangster in the world is Semion Mogilevich.
He just happen to be Jewish. Do you know how he got started?
He took advantage of this thing called "trust" between Jewish
people, like Bernie Madoff did.....
"Semion Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the
mid 1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
profits."
If Bernie sons had kept their mouth quiet, Bernie would still be doing
business as usual.
I guess Bernie made a mistake, he "trusted" his sons.
In Hollywood, the movie factory...do you know what "Trust Me" means?
Q: How do you say Fuck You in Hollywood?
A: Trust me.
The most dangerous gangster in the world is Semion Mogilevich.
He just happen to be Jewish. Do you know how he got started?
He took advantage of this thing called "trust" between Jewish
people, like Bernie Madoff did.....
"Semion Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the
mid 1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
profits."
If Bernie sons had kept their mouth quiet, Bernie would still be doing
business as usual.
I guess Bernie made a mistake, he "trusted" his sons.
In Hollywood, the movie factory...do you know what "Trust Me" means?
Q: How do you say Fuck You in Hollywood?
A: Trust me.
Post by The Starmaker
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
Post by The Starmaker
"Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
I know you're saying to yourself....lawyers and doctors are not criminal enterprises."Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
The Starmaker
2009-01-12 19:18:14 UTC
You don't put a guy like this in jail,
http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
You put him in a wax musuem!
This is Satan.
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http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/st_madoff_victims_20081215.html
You put him in a wax musuem!
This is Satan.
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Post by The Starmaker
Judge allows money manager Madoff to remain free
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95LOC7G0&show_article=1
Thank God I can still wear a watch!
Judge allows money manager Madoff to remain free
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95LOC7G0&show_article=1
Thank God I can still wear a watch!
Post by The Starmaker
He steals 50 billion and all of a sudden they are "considering" throwing him
in jail because of a watch?
Something is wrong in the world but I cannot figure out what it is.
Let me get this straight, it's okay to steal 50 billion dollars, but don't
take off your watch and mail it to Florida cause that can get you in jail?
I'm missing something here...
but I'm not going to wear a watch anymore!
Does anybody know what time it is?
He steals 50 billion and all of a sudden they are "considering" throwing him
in jail because of a watch?
Something is wrong in the world but I cannot figure out what it is.
Let me get this straight, it's okay to steal 50 billion dollars, but don't
take off your watch and mail it to Florida cause that can get you in jail?
I'm missing something here...
but I'm not going to wear a watch anymore!
Does anybody know what time it is?
Post by The Starmaker
Now, you people in soc.culture.jewish newsgroup...
you're going to have to re-think about this "culture" thing of
yours about easily trusting other Jewish people just because they happen to be
Jewish, whether friends, family or strangers. That's a jewsih culture lie.
You cannot trust nobody! Especially if they are Jewish!!
So stop telling your children that if they do business with
another Jewish person, you can trust them. That's a lie.
It's never been true.
What is that sign you put in your stores say, "IN God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash".
"All" is the operative word.
Yet, I continue to see two Jewish persons meeting for the first time and
automatically trusting one another...
I'm flabergasted when I see that.
Especially when I know both of them are gonifs.
The Starmaker
Now, you people in soc.culture.jewish newsgroup...
you're going to have to re-think about this "culture" thing of
yours about easily trusting other Jewish people just because they happen to be
Jewish, whether friends, family or strangers. That's a jewsih culture lie.
You cannot trust nobody! Especially if they are Jewish!!
So stop telling your children that if they do business with
another Jewish person, you can trust them. That's a lie.
It's never been true.
What is that sign you put in your stores say, "IN God We Trust, All Others Pay Cash".
"All" is the operative word.
Yet, I continue to see two Jewish persons meeting for the first time and
automatically trusting one another...
I'm flabergasted when I see that.
Especially when I know both of them are gonifs.
The Starmaker
Post by The Starmaker
The most dangerous gangster in the world is Semion Mogilevich.
He just happen to be Jewish. Do you know how he got started?
He took advantage of this thing called "trust" between Jewish
people, like Bernie Madoff did.....
"Semion Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the
mid 1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
profits."
If Bernie sons had kept their mouth quiet, Bernie would still be doing
business as usual.
I guess Bernie made a mistake, he "trusted" his sons.
In Hollywood, the movie factory...do you know what "Trust Me" means?
Q: How do you say Fuck You in Hollywood?
A: Trust me.
The most dangerous gangster in the world is Semion Mogilevich.
He just happen to be Jewish. Do you know how he got started?
He took advantage of this thing called "trust" between Jewish
people, like Bernie Madoff did.....
"Semion Mogilevich made his first millions fleecing fellow Jews. In the
mid 1980s, when tens of thousands of Jewish refugees were hurriedly
immigrating to Israel and America, Mogilevich made deals to buy their
assets--rubles, furniture, and art--cheaply, promising to exchange the
goods for fair market value and send refugees the proceeds in ''hard''
currency. Instead, he sold their valuables and pocketed the considerable
profits."
If Bernie sons had kept their mouth quiet, Bernie would still be doing
business as usual.
I guess Bernie made a mistake, he "trusted" his sons.
In Hollywood, the movie factory...do you know what "Trust Me" means?
Q: How do you say Fuck You in Hollywood?
A: Trust me.
Post by The Starmaker
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
Post by The Starmaker
"Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
I know you're saying to yourself....lawyers and doctors are not criminal enterprises."Mr. Madoff's two sons have said they knew nothing
about any fraud until their father confessed to them earlier this month."
I find this statement by the two sons, very easy to believe...
I know about the "Bernie" types.
These 'Bernie' criminals.
They have a history of not passing their criminal actitivies unto their children.
Unlike the Italian Mafia, the Italian Mafia pass on their criminal
enterprises unto their children, ....family.
But the Berine's of this world usually don't.
That's why you don't hear much of The Bernie Family Mafia. Just Bernie, the gonif.
Even the Russian Mafia don't bother to pass on their crimes to their children...
Instead, the Bernie's of this world turn their children into other criminal enterprises, like
lawyers and doctors.
It's a criminal enterprise if you happen to be a "Bernie".
Because the mother's of the "Bernies" tell them to be a doctor or lawyer.
And the *only* reason they tell them that is not to help others who are sick or need
legal help, ...it's the money that is the only interest.
Just go to any courtroom, and see a new "Bernie" working and you can see he has
no interest in helping his client...
Just talk to any nurse who works with a "Bernie" doctor and she'll tell you,
"Money, money, money, that's all he talks about."
The Starmaker
Anybody intereted in investing in my hedge funds? I'll send Bernie over if you don't trust me.
You can trust him, he's Jewish!
The Starmaker
2009-03-21 00:28:24 UTC
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:27:48 -0800, The Starmaker
What others are saying...
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_letters3_20_09-3.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-1.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-2.pdf
What others are saying...
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_letters3_20_09-3.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-1.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-2.pdf
B.H. Cramer
2009-03-21 02:30:24 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:27:48 -0800, The Starmaker
What others are saying...
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_letters3_20_09-3.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-1.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-2.pdf
Well - at least Madeoff wasn't racist in his thievery. He stole from yids asOn Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:27:48 -0800, The Starmaker
What others are saying...
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_letters3_20_09-3.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-1.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-2.pdf
well as gullible goyim.
Rich
2009-03-23 06:00:09 UTC
Post by B.H. Cramer
yids as well as gullible goyim.
The only reason it ever came to anything was that he stole from his ownPost by The Starmaker
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:27:48 -0800, The Starmaker
What others are saying...
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_letters3_20_09
-3.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-
1.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-
2.pdf
Well - at least Madeoff wasn't racist in his thievery. He stole fromOn Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:27:48 -0800, The Starmaker
What others are saying...
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_letters3_20_09
-3.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-
1.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-
2.pdf
yids as well as gullible goyim.
kind too. Otherwise, he'd be sunning himself in Israel like so many other
American crooks and traitors..
The Starmaker
2009-03-26 06:45:14 UTC
Post by The Starmaker
On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:27:48 -0800, The Starmaker
What others are saying...
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_letters3_20_09-3.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-1.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-2.pdf
We haven't gotten there yet....On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 10:27:48 -0800, The Starmaker
What others are saying...
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_letters3_20_09-3.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-1.pdf
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/madoff_emails3_20_09-2.pdf
Part 1
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/WSJ/WSJ-abc.html
Part 2
http://pw1.netcom.com/~starmaker/WSJ/WSJ-abcd.html