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Dennis Marcus
2020-09-12 05:05:03 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Mike Duffy
2020-09-12 06:09:54 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves
to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Justice & injustice require a definition of good & evil (because justice
is when good is greater than evil).


For freedom, we can consider the quantum physics of a free particle vs. a
particle in a finite potential well:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_potential_well
Dennis Marcus
2020-09-13 10:03:31 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves
to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Justice & injustice require a definition of good & evil (because justice
is when good is greater than evil).
For freedom, we can consider the quantum physics of a free particle vs. a
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_potential_well
So you compare things to humans? A free particle is a living human particle? You are right insofar as this society treats humans as things, and reduces freedom to the motion of things.
Yap Honghor
2020-09-12 08:33:24 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Dennis Marcus
2020-09-12 16:27:49 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
So yap yap:

Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.

Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
Dennis Marcus
2020-09-12 22:40:25 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
c'mon yapper
Yap Honghor
2020-09-13 00:42:33 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!

But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
Dennis Marcus
2020-09-13 05:56:23 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.

2 Cor 3-4

"The Light of the Gospel
…3And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 4The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Yap Honghor
2020-09-13 08:39:13 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
Dennis Marcus
2020-09-13 09:57:30 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?


How to demolish an atheist


If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
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2020-09-13 12:59:37 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!

YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
Dennis Marcus
2020-09-14 01:19:00 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Dennis Marcus
2020-09-14 01:20:35 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
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2020-09-14 08:28:01 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
Yes, sand grains are being created non-stop in the rivers and seas!

Without a female, there would be no you and you call her mother!!!
Dennis Marcus
2020-09-14 23:30:18 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
Yes, sand grains are being created non-stop in the rivers and seas!
Without a female, there would be no you and you call her mother!!!
so who or what created Nature?
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2020-09-15 01:11:42 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
Yes, sand grains are being created non-stop in the rivers and seas!
Without a female, there would be no you and you call her mother!!!
so who or what created Nature?
Nature is the physical state created by the condition at the time...
No one is capable to create it, unlike the pixie created by human imagination for all types of religions!
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
Yes, sand grains are being created non-stop in the rivers and seas!
Without a female, there would be no you and you call her mother!!!
so who or what created Nature?
Nature is the physical state created by the condition at the time...
No one is capable to create it, unlike the pixie created by human imagination for all types of religions!
What you say makes no sense as usual. How did nature come out of nothing?
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2020-09-15 08:40:28 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
Yes, sand grains are being created non-stop in the rivers and seas!
Without a female, there would be no you and you call her mother!!!
so who or what created Nature?
Nature is the physical state created by the condition at the time...
No one is capable to create it, unlike the pixie created by human imagination for all types of religions!
What you say makes no sense as usual. How did nature come out of nothing?
You theists are really head broken people...incapable to understand what is Nature!
Nature builds itself according to any condition at the time, using physical properties! If you can't grasp this concept, it means you have no education!
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
Yes, sand grains are being created non-stop in the rivers and seas!
Without a female, there would be no you and you call her mother!!!
so who or what created Nature?
Nature is the physical state created by the condition at the time...
No one is capable to create it, unlike the pixie created by human imagination for all types of religions!
So, broken head yap, the probability that a pixie created Nature is far greater rather than the probability of it creating itself out of nothing.
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
Yes, sand grains are being created non-stop in the rivers and seas!
Without a female, there would be no you and you call her mother!!!
so who or what created Nature?
Nature is the physical state created by the condition at the time...
No one is capable to create it, unlike the pixie created by human imagination for all types of religions!
So, broken head yap, the probability that a pixie created Nature is far greater rather than the probability of it creating itself out of nothing.
There is no pixie, Nature is doing all the work by itself!
For example, the way our solar system is in existent and in that order is through Nature and no pixie has been able to alter the state...in the last billions of years!!!
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
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If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
Yes, sand grains are being created non-stop in the rivers and seas!
Without a female, there would be no you and you call her mother!!!
so who or what created Nature?
Nature is the physical state created by the condition at the time...
No one is capable to create it, unlike the pixie created by human imagination for all types of religions!
So, broken head yap, the probability that a pixie created Nature is far greater rather than the probability of it creating itself out of nothing.
There is no pixie, Nature is doing all the work by itself!
For example, the way our solar system is in existent and in that order is through Nature and no pixie has been able to alter the state...in the last billions of years!!!
Ok but where did Nature come from?
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
Yes, sand grains are being created non-stop in the rivers and seas!
Without a female, there would be no you and you call her mother!!!
so who or what created Nature?
Nature is the physical state created by the condition at the time...
No one is capable to create it, unlike the pixie created by human imagination for all types of religions!
So, broken head yap, the probability that a pixie created Nature is far greater rather than the probability of it creating itself out of nothing.
There is no pixie, Nature is doing all the work by itself!
For example, the way our solar system is in existent and in that order is through Nature and no pixie has been able to alter the state...in the last billions of years!!!
Ok but where did Nature come from?
Nature refers to the condition of physical state at the particular time...that is how it came from!!! This is my own words, not from dictionary!
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2020-09-16 16:03:47 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
Yes, sand grains are being created non-stop in the rivers and seas!
Without a female, there would be no you and you call her mother!!!
so who or what created Nature?
Nature is the physical state created by the condition at the time...
No one is capable to create it, unlike the pixie created by human imagination for all types of religions!
So, broken head yap, the probability that a pixie created Nature is far greater rather than the probability of it creating itself out of nothing.
There is no pixie, Nature is doing all the work by itself!
For example, the way our solar system is in existent and in that order is through Nature and no pixie has been able to alter the state...in the last billions of years!!!
Ok but where did Nature come from?
Nature refers to the condition of physical state at the particular time...that is how it came from!!! This is my own words, not from dictionary!
What about spiritual state? Does that exist?
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2020-09-17 06:57:10 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
Yes, sand grains are being created non-stop in the rivers and seas!
Without a female, there would be no you and you call her mother!!!
so who or what created Nature?
Nature is the physical state created by the condition at the time...
No one is capable to create it, unlike the pixie created by human imagination for all types of religions!
So, broken head yap, the probability that a pixie created Nature is far greater rather than the probability of it creating itself out of nothing.
There is no pixie, Nature is doing all the work by itself!
For example, the way our solar system is in existent and in that order is through Nature and no pixie has been able to alter the state...in the last billions of years!!!
Ok but where did Nature come from?
Exploding stars just like everything else.
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Nature refers to the condition of physical state at the particular time...that is how it came from!!! This is my own words, not from dictionary!
What about spiritual state? Does that exist?
Do you mean that as a part of spiritualism? If you do, then no.
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2020-09-17 08:50:03 UTC
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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
Have you ever seen a grain of sand create itself? Or when did evolution decide that a female was necessary to reproduce the human species?
Yes, sand grains are being created non-stop in the rivers and seas!
Without a female, there would be no you and you call her mother!!!
so who or what created Nature?
Nature is the physical state created by the condition at the time...
No one is capable to create it, unlike the pixie created by human imagination for all types of religions!
So, broken head yap, the probability that a pixie created Nature is far greater rather than the probability of it creating itself out of nothing.
There is no pixie, Nature is doing all the work by itself!
For example, the way our solar system is in existent and in that order is through Nature and no pixie has been able to alter the state...in the last billions of years!!!
Ok but where did Nature come from?
Nature refers to the condition of physical state at the particular time...that is how it came from!!! This is my own words, not from dictionary!
What about spiritual state? Does that exist?
There is no such thing as spiritual state, unless you can define it properly!
So many nonsense from theism...

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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Why do you need for science to do that?
Ordinary people can list out the two and see for themselves...perhaps not in you as an uneducated person?
Since they are not verifiable they are like the pixie you like to mention.
Also, are we to say these concepts are based on mere opinion? That everyone has a different conception of what they mean, and that all definitions are equally valid?
If they are indeed different concepts or definition according to different people, then an neutral arbitrator is needed!
But, I would ask, is it the language problem or concept problem or simply a non-issue subject cooked up by a silly theist like you???
As we all know, justice and freedom do not exist for an atheist, neither does God, since are all scientifically unverifiable. All meaningless to those exploited and enslaved.
Why would theism or religion has the right to deny us the justice and freedom?
Because atheism is the ultimate hurdle to its scamming activities?
http://youtu.be/z0DT6uljSbg
How to demolish an atheist
Another delusion from a very silly theist whose brain is broken!
Post by Dennis Marcus
If the universe existed forever then it is eternal - therefore SUPERNATURAL... Yap, you piece of dust. May pixie have mercy on your perishing soul.
Who claims universe existed forever?
No body...therefore there was no such thing as supernatural...just nature!!!!!!
YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PIXIE, not now, not ever!!!!
You can't have it both ways: Either the universe was created or it is infinite. Who or what created the Universe? Or did it create itself?
You do know there is Nature, don't you?

When you ask about the Universe, you have to talk about whether it is before BB, after BB or one that is beyond both!
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2020-09-12 10:43:17 UTC
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sociology?
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Don Kresch
2020-09-12 11:34:28 UTC
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It can show that any ethic which does not follow the
non-aggression principle and which does recognize self-ownership is
necessarily internally contradictory.

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Can science verify that justice and freedom are superior in themselves to injustice and unfreedom? Are these concepts verifiable by science?
Justice has nothing to do with science. It has to do with ethics,
treating people right and giving people what they deserve. That
depends on the kind of society they live in.
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