Post by mainframetechPost by bigdogPost by John McAdamshttps://www.mystatesman.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/alex-jones-faces-existential-courtroom-battle-over-limits-fake-news/
While there is no doubt Alex Jones is so full of shit that it oozes from
his ears, it would be a dangerous precedent if the government were allowed
to control the content of programs such as his. It is not the role of
government to decide what is legitimate news and what is propaganda.
Propaganda is protected by the First Amendment which is why MSNBC and CNN
are allowed to operate.
While you wander around blatting the 1st amendment, you forget as you
often do, that there are caveats to many of those amendments. You cannot
yell 'fire'! In a crowded theater, and you can't make hate statements
about others,
Yes you can. If you couldn't, that would stifle much of what MSNBC and CNN
have to say about Trump.
Post by mainframetechand you cannot make death threats to others. You forget
too, that there are clear laws about defamation, slander and libel.
Years ago, Alex Jones got onto the fact that as he investigated
various conspiracies. like the 9/11 tower collapse, and others, that he
was gaining more listeners every day. He was flushed with success, and he
went too far over to the 'dark force' and began making up stories for
everyone to worry about. He did indeed fake many of them. He deserves
whatever he gets for doing his 'thing' to children of the Sandy Hook
school.
I don't know of anything Jones has been involved in that wasn't a farce.
I'm sure he knows it but he also knows it sells. It attracts listeners
which is why he does it. He did nothing to the children of Sandy Hook. Any
harm he has done as been to the parents of those murdered children. While
I think what he has said is repulsive, repulsive speech is protected by
the First Amendment. The limits on free speech are confined to speech
which causes harm to others. Yelling "fire" in a crowded theater has the
potential to cause a stampede which could result in injury or death to
others. The principal established by the courts is that the speech must
present a "clear and present danger".
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Clear+and+Present+Danger
In order to restrict free speech, the government must show that the speech
created imminent danger to others. A speaker cannot be silenced simply
because his views are controversial and might cause an angry reaction by
those with opposing views. That is known as a "heckler's veto".
http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/H/HecklersVeto.aspx
Anitfa has adopted the tactic of the heckler's veto to prevent
conservatives from speaking on college campuses.
There was an outstanding made-for-TV movie called Skokie in 1981 that
dealt with these issues. The ACLU took up the cause of the American Nazi
Party who were denied a permit to stage a march in the heavily Jewish
Chicago suburb of Skokie. I don't see it available on DVD but if anyone
gets a chance to see it, I highly recommend it.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083090/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3