Discussion:
What're your top ten favorite movies of all time? Is it time for a Hollywood Renaissance? Is it time to bring back Classical Storytelling?
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Captain Ranger McCoy
2005-08-11 09:56:21 UTC
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What're your favorite movies of all time?
1. Braveheart
2. The Outlaw Jose Wales (Braveheart set in the west)
3. Office Space
4. 8 mile
5. Heat
6. Tombstone
7. Passion of the Christ
8. Roger and Me
9. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
10. Moby Dick (with Gregory Peck)

The Renaissance:
http://jollyrogerwest.com/showthread.php?t=642
Northern Storm
2005-08-11 13:20:14 UTC
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On 11 Aug 2005 02:56:21 -0700, "Captain Ranger McCoy"
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
1. Braveheart
2. The Outlaw Jose Wales (Braveheart set in the west)
3. Office Space
4. 8 mile
5. Heat
6. Tombstone
7. Passion of the Christ
8. Roger and Me
9. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
10. Moby Dick (with Gregory Peck)
http://jollyrogerwest.com/showthread.php?t=642
Rainman

"Major combat operations in Iraq have ended."
Lying Turd bush...May 2, 2003
rcs8
2005-08-12 14:54:17 UTC
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1. To Sir With Love
2. Spirited Away
3. Mr. Blandings Builds his Dream House
4. Inn of the Sixth Happiness
5. Lord of the Rings (all three count as one)
6. North by Northwest
7. Not One Less
8. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence
9. Sergeant York
10. War of the Worlds (2005)
Captain Ranger McCoy
2005-09-10 11:53:20 UTC
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AUTUMN RANGERS: A Conservative Novel With a Classic American Hero,
Rhyming Poetry, Words That Mean Things, and a Plot

AUTUMN RANGERS
http://autumnrangers.com
http://jollyrogerwest.com
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Elliot,
Thanks again for doing this e-mail interview. Please
answer the questions and then e-mail them back to me
by Saturday! Thanks.
1. What is the main idea of your book?
A renaissance. Our generation has grown up in an era
wherein higher ideals and classic truths have been all
but banished. Autumn and Ranger come to realize this
as they drive cross country on the run, and they
decide to fight for the renaissance as "Autumn
Rangers." An Autumn Ranger is someone who calls the
contemporary consumeristic bluff and lives for the
higher ideals. An Autumn Ranger is a romantic
striving for a renaissance, wherein words mean things
and promises last forever, and this is the book's
subplot.

The plot is more tangible. US Marine Ranger McCoy
invented APRIL, an advanced computer with artificial
intelligence. While he's serving overseas as a
fighter pilot, Silicon Virtue Inc. steals APRIL from
his MIT lab and takes her to Doom Mountain in Death
Valley, where she is put to work creating WMD's. To
save her, Ranger must activate her deeper moral soul
named Beatrice. Ranger wears the ring with the codes
to Beatrice.

He is shot down over Afghanistan, and like Odysseus,
Ranger surmounts impossible obstacles to journey on
back home. But once back in the US, he's on the run
again, as Silicon Virtue agents come for his ring.

As he journeys across America, he meets Autumn, a
mysterious folk singer with knowledge ranging from
classical art to the martial arts. She helps him
elude agents, and they fall for one-another. But love
ain't easy, and in addition to activitating Beatrice
in APRIL, he must win Autumn's heart by resurrecting
her forgotten faith.

And a classic twist in the book unites the plot and
subplot in a head-on collision. Winnining Autumn's
heart and saving APRIL's soul turn out to be one and
the same.
Post by g***@yahoo.com
2. How long did it take to write the book?
About four years.
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3. This is your first book, correct? Will you be
writing more? Is this your true calling?
This is actually my fourth book. I have previously
published a novel, a poetry book, and a collection of
essays. They're all available in major bookstores
such as amazon.com, powells.com, and bn.com.
Post by g***@yahoo.com
4. Why is it important for college students to read
your book? Does it connect with them at some level?
This generation needs a renaissance. We need to move
beyond postmodernism in our art and literature, in our
relationships and lives.

Hollywood is in decline. NY publishing is in decline.
The traditional family is in decline. As Aristotle
observed thousands of years ago, when storytelling
goes bad, the result is decadence.

Autumn Rangers is a journey into the realm of the
Great Books and Classics, but it's set in the
contemporary context, complete with hiphop,
text-messaging, and Avril Lavigne. It performs the
eternal ideals in the living language, and invites
students to live the classical principles.

Autumn Rangers is meant to inspire and exalt.
Students own the future, and it's up to you to build a
Hollywood renaissance. Head west and become a
director, a producer, or screenwriter, and revive the
classic myths in the living language. Or journey up
to NY and become an editor, agent, writer, or
publisher.

Less and less people are reading literary books, but
we can change that, by letting literature live once
again, by letting her reach for immortality via
classical stories. Resurrect the ideals and classic
values that remind us of what it is to live on a
higher plain. Become an Autumn Ranger!

We, as a society, have forgotten how to tell stories,
as we've dismissed the eternal ideals common to the
great books and classics. The Hollywood boxoffice
just suffered its worst year in this era, and the
literary novel has long ago gone out of vogue--both
have been affected by postmodernism--the nihilistic
idea that higher truths and values don't exist. The
eternal ideals must be perpetually performed in the
living language, and that's what Autumn Rangers does.

Autumn Rangers is a contemporary portal on out to that
community of eternal souls. Written in a rich context
with themes borrowed from Dante's Inferno, the
Odyssey, and the Count of Monte Christo, Autumn
Rangers is the education that was once given at the
university.

If you're going to work in Hollywood and build a
renaissance out there, you're going to need to know
the classics, such as Aristotle, Shakespeare, and the
Bible--just like Cecil B. Demille, Mel Gibson, and
George Lucas did. If you're going to become a
lawyer, and strive for justice, you're going to need
to know the classics, such as Shakespeare, Aristotle,
and the Bible--just like Lincoln, Jefferson, and
Madison did.

Autumn Rangers is written within this rich context.
Post by g***@yahoo.com
5. What is the most important lesson learned from
the book?
Call the bluff and follow your dreams--you are the one
chance your dreams have of becoming real. Truth is
beauty and beauty truth. People might try to tell you
otherwise, but call their bluff. Become that Autumn
Ranger, win Autumn's heart, and save APRIL's soul.
Post by g***@yahoo.com
6. Where did you go to college? What did you major
in?
I went to Princeton. I majored in physics but took a
creative writing class each semester. I had Joyce
Carol Oates, Russell Banks, and Toni Morrison as
professors.
Post by g***@yahoo.com
7. Any other comments or quotes you would like in
the article?
The renaissance is yours for the taking.

Best,

Dr. E

AUTUMN RANGERS
http://autumnrangers.com
http://jollyrogerwest.com
Marvin The Paranoid Android
2005-08-11 14:05:27 UTC
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Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
1. Braveheart
2. The Outlaw Jose Wales (Braveheart set in the west)
3. Office Space
4. 8 mile
5. Heat
6. Tombstone
7. Passion of the Christ
8. Roger and Me
9. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
10. Moby Dick (with Gregory Peck)
http://jollyrogerwest.com/showthread.php?t=642
1. Dr. Strangelove
2. Blazing Saddles
3. Forrest Gump
4. Rainman
5. One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
6. Apocalypse Now
7. Mississippi Burning
8. Apollo 13
9. The Matrix
10. FUBAR
Stephen Cooke
2005-08-11 14:49:48 UTC
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Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
2. The Outlaw Jose Wales (Braveheart set in the west)
The hell....?

swac
m***@astound.net
2005-08-11 15:11:26 UTC
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Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
1. Braveheart
2. The Outlaw Jose Wales (Braveheart set in the west)
3. Office Space
4. 8 mile
5. Heat
6. Tombstone
7. Passion of the Christ
8. Roger and Me
9. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
10. Moby Dick (with Gregory Peck)
Well, Braveheart makes my list as the slowest, sloppiest,
and one of the most unhistorical movies ever made. Beyond
that I haven't seen most of them and don't much like the
ones I have seen. But then it's about favorite movies,
not good movies.

My own 10 favorite movies in no particular order:

Rockateer
West Side Story
Alexander Nevsky
Shakespear In Love
Fantasia
The Court Jester
The Iron Giant
The Nightmare Before Christmas
Some Kind of Wonderful
Forbidden Planet

And for no particular reason except that I love it,
Army of Darkness
Dale Houstman
2005-08-11 23:38:04 UTC
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Post by m***@astound.net
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
1. Braveheart
2. The Outlaw Jose Wales (Braveheart set in the west)
3. Office Space
4. 8 mile
5. Heat
6. Tombstone
7. Passion of the Christ
8. Roger and Me
9. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
10. Moby Dick (with Gregory Peck)
Well, Braveheart makes my list as the slowest, sloppiest,
and one of the most unhistorical movies ever made. Beyond
that I haven't seen most of them and don't much like the
ones I have seen. But then it's about favorite movies,
not good movies.
Rockateer
West Side Story
Alexander Nevsky
Shakespear In Love
Fantasia
The Court Jester
The Iron Giant
The Nightmare Before Christmas
Some Kind of Wonderful
Forbidden Planet
And for no particular reason except that I love it,
Army of Darkness
I like the list; it's a nice mixture of "high" and "low" culture.
Rocketeer failed miserably of course, and it has problems, but I really
loved the design work. My wife loves West Side Story, and I'm man enough
to watch it with her. It has some enjoyable moments - even for me: the
"America" song, and the one abuot "Officer Krupke." I really enjoyed The
Iron Giant, and have given it to several children as a gift. They also
like it. Forbidden Planet is pure fun, and - anyway - it has Ann Francis
in it.

dmh
Charlie Wolf
2005-08-11 16:00:32 UTC
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1. Bullit
2. Great Escape
3. Thomas Crown Affair
(are you seeing a pattern here??)

4. Romeo & Juliett (F. Zefferelli version) - off pattern
5. Hunt for Red October
6. Patriot Games
7. Clear & Present Danger
(another pattern)

8. The General (silent film with Buster Keaton)
9. Magnum Force

hmmmm - I know there's one more. I'll add later...
Regards,

BTW - most hated movie -- Gone With The Wind





On 11 Aug 2005 02:56:21 -0700, "Captain Ranger McCoy"
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
1. Braveheart
2. The Outlaw Jose Wales (Braveheart set in the west)
3. Office Space
4. 8 mile
5. Heat
6. Tombstone
7. Passion of the Christ
8. Roger and Me
9. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
10. Moby Dick (with Gregory Peck)
http://jollyrogerwest.com/showthread.php?t=642
Your Pal Brian
2005-08-11 16:35:00 UTC
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Post by Charlie Wolf
1. Bullit
2. Great Escape
3. Thomas Crown Affair
(are you seeing a pattern here??)
Did you ever see the Ibsen movie he did, Enemy of the People?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075993/

It was actually pretty good. TCM runs it every once in a great
while.

Anyway:

The Unknown (Browning, 1927)
The Shining (Kubrick, 1980)
The Blue Angel (Sternberg, 1930)
Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
Amadeus (Forman, 1984)
Frankenstein (Whale, 1931)
Ivan the Terrible I & II (Eisenstein, 1947)
Glengarry Glen Ross (Foley, 1993)
Plan 9 From Outer Space (Wood, 1957)
Nanook of the North (Flaherty, 1922)

Runners up:

Psycho (Hitchcock, 1960)
Hallelujah (Vidor, 1929)
Horse Feathers (McLeod, 1932)
Looking for Richard (Pacino, 1996)
Testament of Dr. Mabuse (Lang, 1933)

Brian
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation')
2005-08-12 17:56:23 UTC
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Post by Charlie Wolf
BTW - most hated movie -- Gone With The Wind
Waiting four hours for him to tell her what we have all been thinking
from the start.
--
"And he did bring them. It took a number of years, but one by one he
brought them here. Except for his father, that old man died where he was
born." -+ "Elia Kazan, "America, America"
GW Chimpzilla
2005-08-11 16:27:36 UTC
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Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Fahrenheit 9/11
Captain Ranger McCoy
2005-08-31 12:37:39 UTC
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Calling Conservative Artists, Authors, Screenwriters,
Intellectuals--Tell Tomorrow's Stories!! The Renaissance is Yours!!
Story = Law = Culture.

Calling Conservative Artists, Authors, Screenwriters,
Intellectuals--Tell Tomorrow's Stories!! The Renaissance is Yours!!

Discuss at http://jollywogerwest.com !
Join the Renaissance: http://jollyroger.com !

Robert McKee writes in STORY:

"Yet, while the ever-expanding reach of the media now gives us the
opportunity to send stories beyond borders and languages to hundreds of
millions, the overall quality of storytelling is eroding. On occasion
we read or see works of excellence, but for the most part we weary of
searching newspaper ads, video shops, and TV listings for something of
quality, of putting down novels half-read, of slipping out of plays at
the intermission, of walking out of films soothing our disappointment
with "But it was beautifully photographed . . ."

The art of story is in decay, and as Aristotle observed twenty-three
hundred years ago, when storytelling goes bad, the result is decadence.
Flawed and false storytelling is forced to substitute spectacle for
substance, trickery for truth. Weak stories, desperate to hold audience
attention, degenerate into multimillion-dollar razzle-dazzle demo
reels. In Hollywood imagery becomes more and more extravagant, in
Europe more and more decorative. The behavior of actors becomes more
and more histrionic, more and more lewd, more and more violent. Music
and sound effects become increasingly tumultuous. The total effect
transudes into the grotesque. A culture cannot evolve without honest,
powerful storytelling. When society repeatedly experiences glossy,
hollowed-out, pseudo-stories, it degenerates. We need true satires and
tragedies, dramas and comedies that shine a clean light into the dingy
corners of the human psyche and society. If not, as Yeats warned, ". .
. the centre can not hold."

Each year, Hollywood produces and/or distributes four hundred to five
hundred films, virtually a film per day. A few are excellent, but the
majority are mediocre or worse. The temptation is to blame this glut of
banality on the Babbitt-like figures who approve productions. But
recall a moment from THE PLAYER: Tim Robbins's young Hollywood
executive explains that he has many enemies because each year his
studio accepts over twenty thousand story submissions but only makes
twelve films. This is accurate dialogue. The story departments of the
major studios pore through thousands upon thousands of scripts,
treatments, novels, and plays searching for a great screen story. Or,
more likely, something halfway to good that they could develop to
better-than-average.

Discuss at http://jollywogerwest.com !
Join the Renaissance: http://jollyroger.com !
HMFIC-1369
2005-08-11 16:54:17 UTC
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Funny! I guess the War and shit doesn't interest the TV Gen.... Hollywood
Entertainment? WOW sitting on you fat asses while guy's are getting killed
in Iraq!

What Hero's!

But I guess the Bush Asslicking Cheeerleaders are seeking other avenues of
entertainment, since your basically all unemployed!
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
1. Braveheart
2. The Outlaw Jose Wales (Braveheart set in the west)
3. Office Space
4. 8 mile
5. Heat
6. Tombstone
7. Passion of the Christ
8. Roger and Me
9. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
10. Moby Dick (with Gregory Peck)
http://jollyrogerwest.com/showthread.php?t=642
Paul B. Thompson
2005-08-11 17:17:36 UTC
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"Braveheart?" A travesty.

http://www.medievalscotland.org/scotbiblio/bravehearterrors.shtml
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
1. Braveheart
2. The Outlaw Jose Wales (Braveheart set in the west)
3. Office Space
4. 8 mile
5. Heat
6. Tombstone
7. Passion of the Christ
8. Roger and Me
9. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
10. Moby Dick (with Gregory Peck)
http://jollyrogerwest.com/showthread.php?t=642
Captain Ranger McCoy
2005-08-11 20:23:46 UTC
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Any movie with the Stones in it.

Please allow me to introduce myself.
I'm a man of wealth and taste.

Ranger Mccoy, USMC

http://autumnrangers.com
http://jollyrogerwest.com
Stephen Cooke
2005-08-11 21:15:18 UTC
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Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
Any movie with the Stones in it.
Even One Plus One?

swac
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation')
2005-08-12 17:54:07 UTC
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Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
Any movie with the Stones in it.
Please allow me to introduce myself.
I'm a man of wealth and taste.
So you even hate the English first attempt at "Fitzcarraldo"?
--
"And he did bring them. It took a number of years, but one by one he
brought them here. Except for his father, that old man died where he was
born." -+ "Elia Kazan, "America, America"
S***@searchhawkmail.com
2005-08-15 04:22:02 UTC
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THE THIRD MAN takes 1st Place, but the rest are in no particular order:

1) THE THIRD MAN
2) ZARDOZ
3) PENNIES FROM HEAVEN
4) ORPHEE
5) THE SEVENTH SEAL
6) THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI
7) PANDORA & THE FLYING DUTCHMAN
8) NIGHT OF THE HUNTER
9) SHANE
10) SHOWBOAT (51)

It's impossible to cut it down to 10 -- but these are the ones I watch
the most.
Dale Houstman
2005-08-15 06:59:00 UTC
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Post by S***@searchhawkmail.com
1) THE THIRD MAN
2) ZARDOZ
3) PENNIES FROM HEAVEN
4) ORPHEE
5) THE SEVENTH SEAL
6) THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI
7) PANDORA & THE FLYING DUTCHMAN
8) NIGHT OF THE HUNTER
9) SHANE
10) SHOWBOAT (51)
It's impossible to cut it down to 10 -- but these are the ones I watch
the most.
Some nice films there, but - IMHO - Zardoz is among one of the worst
films I've ever had the misfortune to see, and Boorman has made some
good films. I've never understood its appeal. Pandora and the Flying
Dutchman is harmless enough, but basically just a mediocre weeper with a
splash of limp fantasy.

No accounting for - or arguing with - taste though.

dmh
moviemania
2005-08-15 09:48:33 UTC
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It is ridiculous to compare books with movies. they are complitely
different things.Books has their own values, so do movies.

But to compare books made as movies ...we can say that always books are
better to read than to watch them as a movie version.They really make
them look ugly and it erases from my mind all imagination about the
characters and story of that particular book.
Dale Houstman
2005-08-15 15:18:06 UTC
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Post by moviemania
It is ridiculous to compare books with movies. they are complitely
different things.Books has their own values, so do movies.
But to compare books made as movies ...we can say that always books are
better to read than to watch them as a movie version.They really make
them look ugly and it erases from my mind all imagination about the
characters and story of that particular book.
Of course - ultimately - one cannot compare books and movies. But ALL
art is about sensation and experience. What is actually being done when
someone says "the book was better than the movie" is a comparison of the
respective experiences. Obviously, a movie CAN be as satisfying an event
as a book, albeit a different one. Thus it is not out of line to say -
without hesitation - that no film version of "Moby Dick" (for instance)
matches the sensations deriveable from a good reading of the book; in
other words, that the film versions of "Moby Dick" fail as art, no
matter what the differences between film and literature.

But then you go on to make the comparison, and it isn't an accurate one
at that. Inferior books are often made into superior movies, insofar as
the sensations are more heightened, more immediate, more elegantly
arranged. In some aspects this even occurs with popular books: although
Baum's "Wizard of Oz" book is quite charming as children's literature
(mainly because he has a sure touch with witty grotesques), the book is
- in fact - awkwardly constructed, and goes on well past its climax,
giving a long explication of the journey home AFTER the witch is dead,
and the broom returned to Oz. The filmmakers were sharp enough to
realize this was a structural flaw, and eliminate it. And with the
addition of a marvelous score and cast and set design (amongst other
elements) the sensation of the film is as good as the sensation of the
book, albeit of a different nature: they are equal if separate pleasures.

There are many "noir" books which are almost wholly forgotten, which
have been made into enduring films. And although the written versions of
"Snow White" which are extant all have their basic charms, the
experience of Disney's filmed version is as effective, again adding good
songs, and a feast for the eyes. And so on.

dmh
g***@yahoo.com
2005-08-18 13:18:59 UTC
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There's something I saw in the mountain mist,
That too I perceived in the thundering wave,
But then when I felt it, when we first kissed,
I knew it was something I had to save.
Nature's noble rapture, changing seasons,
Beauty owns the blossoms and falling leaves,
But man walks alone in owning reasons,
Reflected in all is what he believes.
I passed it last night, riding the warm wind,
I was out late, rebelling against time,
Against the wind I had set out to find,
Words to anchor eternity in rhyme.
O' Captain my Captain, hark, it's in me,
This thundering soul, creating to be free.
--Becket Knottingham

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Perry Sailor
2005-08-11 21:01:38 UTC
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Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head -- mostly
by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a DVD player, and/or
ones I've seen the most times and never tire of:

Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita

Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Sid9
2005-08-12 03:06:01 UTC
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Post by Perry Sailor
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head --
mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a DVD
Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
Mazinger Z
2005-08-12 05:44:33 UTC
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In no particular order:

King Kong(original)
Stalag 17
Clockwork orange
Yojimbo
Brazil
Casablanca
Taxi Driver
The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly
Duck Soup
The Producers
Post by Sid9
Post by Perry Sailor
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head --
mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a DVD
Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
moviemania
2005-08-12 08:27:25 UTC
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1. Dogville (Lars Von Trier)
2. Dancer In the Dark (Larss Von Trier)
3. 21 Grams (Alejandro González Iñárritu)
4. Kill Bill Vol. I,II (Tarantino)
5. Closer (Mike Nichols)
6. GodFather I,II (Francis Forc Copolla)
7. Amelie
8. Blue Velvet (David Lynch)
9. Lost In Translation (Sophia Copolla)
10. Thesis (Alejandro Amenábar)


It's the time for a big renaissance in Hollywood. We really need movies
that can be watched calmly and those that make jo think of it... I'm
bored of movies with helicopters, wars, and all hollywood rabbishes.
Maybe we wouldn't ask for changes in Hollywood ...thank God we have
European Movies and american directors that work like Europeans (like
tarantino, Sophia Copolla, Inarritu etc.)....those really worth
watching .
Great Books Classics
2005-08-12 11:26:51 UTC
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What're The Top Ten Conservative Rock & Country Bands/Performers of All
Time??

1. Toby Keith (we'll put a boot in their ass...)
2. Kid Rock (woudn't go see Farenheight 911 with Puff Daddy: Supports
the troops on USO tours!!!)
3. Elvis
4. Guns 'n' Roses
5. Metallica (Napster hearings)
6. Dixie Chicks (kidding!!!)
7. Quiet Riot
8. Snoop Dogg (with my mind on my money and my money on my mind)
9. Russel Crowe's Band
10. The Pretenders (Rush Limbaugh's theme song)
11. KISS (Geme Simmons is a huge Bush fan)

From: http://jollyrogerwest.com/showthread.php?p=1701#post1701

Support the troops!!!

http://jollyroger.com/penpals (SEMPER FI TO THE USMC! PENPALS!)
Tom Zielinski
2005-08-13 12:40:40 UTC
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Post by Great Books Classics
What're The Top Ten Conservative Rock & Country Bands/Performers of All
Time??
1. Toby Keith (we'll put a boot in their ass...)
2. Kid Rock (woudn't go see Farenheight 911 with Puff Daddy: Supports
the troops on USO tours!!!)
3. Elvis
4. Guns 'n' Roses
5. Metallica (Napster hearings)
6. Dixie Chicks (kidding!!!)
7. Quiet Riot
8. Snoop Dogg (with my mind on my money and my money on my mind)
9. Russel Crowe's Band
10. The Pretenders (Rush Limbaugh's theme song)
11. KISS (Geme Simmons is a huge Bush fan)
What, no Ted Nugent?
Captain Ranger McCoy
2005-08-25 05:24:54 UTC
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Autumn Rangers is a Great Movie!!

http://autumnrangers.com/
http://autumnrangersmovie.com/
http://jollyrogerwest.com

Autumn Rangers is where NASCAR meets Moby Dick, where the Founding
Fathers hang with Kid Rock, where poetry collides with physics, and
where Classic-American-Country-Hiphop-Lit burns through the pomo fog to
exalt America's heart and soul. Autumn Rangers is the American
Renaissance that's been a long time coming, where the Man with No Name
rides again with John Wayne.

The Great American Novel roars 'cross the Rugged American Terrain in a
Jeep and thunders down Dante's Lost Highway in Autumn's Corvette, with
Ranger riding shotgun, packing the Constitution and Declaration of
Independence, chasing down that classic American Dream that makes
Outlaws out of Romantics these days.

Autumn Rangers is a book, movie, video game, magazine, and philosophy
for packing up and heading west, for hiding out and laying low on the
run, for taking a chance with that one life you've been given--taking a
chance on living it from the inside out for those higher ideals,
standing up for what's right, defending eternity against all odds,
facing down irony's evil Sheriff and his Deputies at high noon with a
couple Colt .45 Peacemakers loaded with poetry, and becoming an Autumn
Ranger. But first and foremost, from the Alpha to the Omega, Autumn
Rangers is a story. . .

U.S. Marine Ranger McCoy, an F-22 Raptor fighter pilot, is the Classic
American Hero. After defending the US Constitution from enemies
without, getting shot down and escaping on home, he finds himself on
the run, defending the US Constitution from enemies within. Folk rocker
Autumn West is the All-American Girl. After living for things greater
than herself, she finds herself on the run from a failed marriage, with
a broken heart and jaded soul.

Ranger tried to trade his guns for a camera and a pen, and Autumn tried
to trade a life on the road for a farm and a family, but life fell
short of their dreams.

Ranger invented APRIL--an AI biocomputer which was stolen by Silicon
Virtue Inc. and turned against him while he was flying missions over
Afghanistan. Silicon Virtue is using APRIL to serve the bottom line
instead of the higher ideals, building WMDs and sending
ever-more-sinister RoboClones to hunt Ranger and Autumn down. Ranger
wears the Ring that can save APRIL by unlocking an encrypted moral
operating system named Beatrice, named after Ranger's first summer love
who passed away when they were fourteen.

Together Autumn and Ranger have to make it from Charleston to LA on
backroads before the bombs APRIL built for terrorists detonate in NY
and LA, and before APRIL's RoboClones kill them.

And so it is that two Romantics find themselves on the run from
RoboClone agents and Sheriffs of Irony who enforce a context of decline
and persecute the honest and true. Autumn and Ranger become partners in
crime and partners in rhyme. They become Classic American Outlaws
running west in a '69 Stingray Corvette, building the Renaissance
against all odds. They become Autumn Rangers. And by the time Ranger
discovers Autumn's deep secret, it's too late--he's in love.

[N o v e l] [M o v i e] [V i d e o G a m e] [M a g a z i n e] [P h o
t o g r a p h y] [S o u n d t r a c k]
A U T U M N R A N G E R S
If a martial artist comes into conflict with a street fighter, that
fighter is likely well equipped with boxing skills. In America, boxing
is a mainstream approach to street fighting. Even in our prisons,
criminals practice boxing, not kata. Many fathers teach their sons how
to box. Therefore, to be able to defend a boxer's attack you must first
be able to fight like a boxer. --Robert Ferguson, The Best of Inside
Kung Fu

Midway along the journey of this life
I woke to find myself in a dark forest,
For I had wandered off from the straight path.

How hard it is to tell what it was like,
These woods of wilderness, savagely stark,
(the thought of them awakens all old fears),

a wretched place! Dark death could scarce be darker.
But to show the good that comes of facing the bad,
Here I must speak of things other than the good.
--Dante Alighieri, The Inferno

Peters also said he took design cues [for the C6 Corvette] from the
Air-Force's F/A-22 Raptor fighter, particularly in the area of the side
scoops, which looked like reversed jet intakes. Some of the shaping of
the glass hatch is also reminiscent of the Raptor's canopy. --Matt
Delorenzo, American Icon, The Corvette C6, Road & Track


888 Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a
pathological criminal. --Albert Einstein 888 I went to the woods
because I wished to live deliberately. . . and not, when it came time
to die, discover that I not lived at all. --Henry David Thoreau, Walden
888 Death is better for every man than life with shame. --Beowulf
888 Is not the love of wisdom a practice of death? --Plato,
Phaedo 888 Death is to be chosen before slavery and base deeds.
--Cicero 888 Verily, verily I say to you unless a grain of wheat
falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone, but if it dies it
bears much fruit. He who loves his life loses it. --The Gospel of John
888 Well you can't turn him in to a company man, you can't turn
him in to a whore, and the boys upstairs, they just don't understand
anymore. --Tom Petty, The Last DJ 888

I
CHARLESTON

The September hurricane kissed historic Charleston, swaying the faded,
wooden sign reading Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here. "Reckon so,"
Ranger thought. He ducked down the alley between JR's Piano & Poetry
Pub and St. Matthew's. A girl rushed by him with a guitar, dashing out
of the rain and into the pub, her cowboy hat pulled low, the ends of
her hair wet like watercolor brush-tips.

Ranger followed the cobblestone corridor past a cemetery where the
names had long ago washed away from the marble headstones. The alley
opened onto an ivied palmetto forest behind Newton Hall--the College of
Charleston Physics Department. The wind tugged at his skull'n'bones
earring as he waited for the boss janitor to leave. Boss had been
asking too many questions. The last light went out. Lightning streaked,
startling Ranger with his reflection in the church's window. He barely
recognized the surfer-slacker he'd become.

He couldn't work on APRIL2 in the day, so when he wasn't mopping
floors, he'd sleep on the beach, surf, and enjoy a bit of the freedom
he'd put his life on the line for as a Marine fighter pilot. Surfer
chicks weren't always impressed by a physics Ph.D., but his new
identity, complete with a jolly roger tattoo, tan, earring, bleached
hair, and a surfboard-now that was something. Throw in the rusted-out
jeep he'd brought back to life, and the geek had finally gotten it
right. It'd been a rocking summer, despite his being dead to everyone
but APRIL--an AI supercomputer he'd invented at MIT which Silicon
Virtue stole to make WMDs while he was MIA. Deep down APRIL sensed he
was still alive. The United States Marine Corps had trained him to
survive and adapt, and Ranger was surviving and adapting to the
Charleston hotties.

He crossed the courtyard's swaying palmettos. The hanging Spanish moss
painted him wet. He slipped inside the physics department and fought
the wind to close the door.

In a student lab he'd built the world's second instance of artificial
intelligence--or more correctly, he'd mostly let APRIL2 build herself
from components borrowed from labs and the hospital. What he couldn't
borrow he'd ordered by forging professors' signatures. The original
APRIL had been stolen six months ago, while Ranger rotted away in a
Taliban prison. He removed his ring. A hologram etched in the synthetic
diamond contained an 8192-bit encryption key--the key to APRIL's deeper
soul and the Penelope operating system which would allow her to defend
herself against hackers. Thunder echoed through the cramped space--a
rat's nest of coax cables and fiber optics connecting silicon and
biocomputers. He held the ring under a laser.

"California," said APRIL2 in a metallic woman's voice. She'd finally
homed in on the original APRIL. "The IP addresses are registered to
Silicon Virtue Inc."

"Silicon Virtue." Ranger googled it. No website. "Where?"

"Doom Mountain, Death Valley." APRIL2 said.

"Can you activate Penelope?"

"Firewall."

"How long to hack in?" He asked.

"Three hours. She has quantum computing capability."

"How good?"

"Primitive-she would have traced us by now. Her quantum entanglement
isn't isolated. She isn't paying attention. It's as if-" APRIL2 paused.

"Hurry-she'll trace us." Ranger said.

"She's laughing." APRIL2 said.

"At us?"

"At the grand unified theory proposed by string theorists. She has her
own which includes poetry. The higher level math is incomprehensible to
humans. It's most beautif-"

"Just get the message!" He said.

Ranger waited in silence, breathless as his stomach tied itself in a
knot. He could be sure Silicon Virtue's elite scientists would be
monitoring APRIL's firewall. Deep in APRIL's soul was a chip where
Ranger had instructed her to encrypt distress messages should she ever
be hacked.

"Decoding message," APRIL2 said, her voice shifting.

She printed the binary and converted it to text:

Abandon all hope, ye who enter here. U(x){psi(x,t)} =
i{h-bar}d{psi(x,t)}/dt+ ({h-bar}^2)/2m{del}^2 {psi (x,t)}. To be or not
to be, that is the question. Unless ye be converted and become as
little children, ye shall not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. Moby
Dick. Now he's a super star, slamming on his guitar, does your pretty
face see what he's worth, he was a skater boy she said see you later
boy, he wasn't good enough for her. When in the Course of human events,
it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands
which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers
of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of
Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the
opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which
impel them to the separation. E=mc^2. S=Klogt. Temporal and spatial
dimensions are moving relative to one another. Everything should be
made simple as possible, but not moreso and Eminem!

Ranger wrote out the names below the message: Dante Alighieri, Erwin
Schr?dinger, William Shakespeare, Jesus Christ, Herman Melville,
____________, Thomas Jefferson, Albert Einstein, Ludwig Van Boltzman,
Ranger McCoy, Albert Einstein, Eminem.

"Now he's a super star, slamming on his guitar," Ranger said. "Who's
that?"

"Nietzsche." APRIL2 said.

"Nuh uh-it's that song." Ranger sang it, "He was a skater boy, she said
see you later boy."

"Avril Lavigne," she said.

"Spell it."

"Here's more." APRIL2 said. "The key to her heart sets my spirit free,
the play's the thing in which you'll find the ring, a girl's best
friend unlocks Penelope, copied to a computer that can-"

A lighting bolt struck a line down the block. A transformer exploded in
the tumbling thunder. The power flickered out, but Ranger had installed
surge protectors and UPS battery backups. APRIL2 rebooted as Ranger
counted the letters in the message. The room filled with her soft blue
glow.

"You okay?"

"Affirmative," APRIL2 said.

"Can we get back in?"

"Negative-no generator backup for network."

"How long?" Ranger asked.

"Seven-hundred minutes for maintenance crews to replace the
transformer. Longer if Hurricane Joyce intensifies." "The play's the
thing," Ranger repeated. "Wherein I'll catch the conscience of the
king."

"Hamlet," APRIL2 said. "Act II, Scene ii."

"What kind of computer did she copy the Penelope algorithms
into-where?" Ranger asked.

"Anywhere. Even with primitive quantum circuits, she could hack into
any lab in seconds. Where are you going?"

"To read Hamlet," Ranger said, donning his weathered leather cowboy hat
and oilskin duster. It'd rained so much that summer he'd become good
friends with the old leather hat and duster he'd bought for eight bucks
at Charleston Thrift. "And get some sleep. What kind of cryptography
you reckon APRIL used?" Ranger folded APRIL's message.

"Probably a combination--I'm running it through everything. Might need
a key or two."

"She's the key." Ranger said. "But who?"

"I'll resume hacking APRIL when the network comes back up," APRIL2
said.

"Wait for me--you can bet she's on to us. Look for EDLSs in the
message."

When applied to Moby Dick and the Bible, equal distant letter sequences
(EDLSs), which consisted of starting with a letter and jumping a given
number of letters forward, had found messages predicting the
assassinations Trotsky, Gandhi, and the Kennedy's. Biblical EDLSs had
linked Newton to Gravity and Edison to the light bulb.

"Nothing," APRIL2 said. "Neither forwards nor backwards."

"What about with transpositions?"

"Nothing up to the third magnitude. And after that you start seeing
everything. You can find anything you want in there."

As Ranger knew APRIL would come to have vast power, he'd programmed her
to default to always turning the other cheek. And thus APRIL's moral
code had a fatal flaw--it rendered her incapable of defending herself
against Silicon Virtue's hacks out in Doom Mountain.

At MIT Ranger had been testing an advanced moral operating system named
Penelope, which would allow APRIL to defend herself. But when he was
called to duty, he wasn't sure Penelope was ready to handle the vast
power APRIL would come to know, so he didn't activate it. He instructed
APRIL to keep working on Penelope. In a diamond diffraction grating on
his ring he engraved the code that would activate Penelope, as well as
the code to the algorithms of APRIL's deeper soul.

Without Ranger's ring, Silicon Virtue couldn't bypass APRIL's higher
ideals and use her to serve their bottom line. They couldn't get her to
create weapons of mass destruction. Without the source code for the
software of the soul they couldn't duplicate her, nor endow their
warrior RoboClones with souls of their own. And thus they'd be coming
after him, sure as he'd be coming for APRIL.
888
Hurricane Joyce decided to become a category-five hurricane, as winds
around the eyewall surpassed one-hundred-and-fifty miles-per-hour. In a
few hours she would make a sharp left turn towards Charleston. Nobody
had predicted this, but that was why we named hurricanes--to make them
responsible for their own actions. On the way she would gather energy
from the Gulf Stream.

888
Pierre Foushee placed an encrypted voice-over-IP call to Vlad
Polyinkov. Bin Laden would pay ten million up front for the plutonium,
and forty million on delivery. The bomb, the size of a football and
encased in lead to make it invisible to radiation detectors, would be
placed in a Mercedes, loaded onto a tanker, and detonated in the New
York Harbor. Another one would be aimed at Charleston. Each blast would
pack the equivalent of twenty-thousand tons of TNT, in accordance with
Einstein's theory: E=mc2. If the deal went through, Pierre could retire
with a house in the Swiss Alps and another in the South of France. And
another in Paris. Vlad picked up.

JOIN THE RENAISSANCE!!

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Dale Houstman
2005-08-12 11:27:52 UTC
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1. Dogville (Lars Von Trier)
2. Dancer In the Dark (Larss Von Trier)
3. 21 Grams (Alejandro González Iñárritu)
4. Kill Bill Vol. I,II (Tarantino)
5. Closer (Mike Nichols)
6. GodFather I,II (Francis Forc Copolla)
7. Amelie
8. Blue Velvet (David Lynch)
9. Lost In Translation (Sophia Copolla)
10. Thesis (Alejandro Amenábar)
It's the time for a big renaissance in Hollywood. We really need movies
that can be watched calmly and those that make jo think of it... I'm
bored of movies with helicopters, wars, and all hollywood rabbishes.
Maybe we wouldn't ask for changes in Hollywood ...thank God we have
European Movies and american directors that work like Europeans (like
tarantino, Sophia Copolla, Inarritu etc.)....those really worth
watching .
It's matter of rediscovering what America used to know about making
films; most of which ideas the Europeans took on as their own, and still
continue to espouse. Culturally, America is a stinkhole at the moment.
Maybe this ia what naturally occurs in nations that have taken on the
mantle of empire; its entire society is rotted from the inside.

dmh
Bob
2005-08-12 12:10:44 UTC
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Post by Dale Houstman
It's matter of rediscovering what America used to know about making
films; most of which ideas the Europeans took on as their own, and still
continue to espouse. Culturally, America is a stinkhole at the moment.
Maybe this ia what naturally occurs in nations that have taken on the
mantle of empire; its entire society is rotted from the inside.
But those who dug that part of the cultural sinkhole (films) are often the
very ones who oppose America's alleged empire-building aspirations. So,
maybe there are other reasons for "what naturally occurs".
Dale Houstman
2005-08-12 16:06:30 UTC
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Post by Bob
Post by Dale Houstman
It's matter of rediscovering what America used to know about making
films; most of which ideas the Europeans took on as their own, and still
continue to espouse. Culturally, America is a stinkhole at the moment.
Maybe this ia what naturally occurs in nations that have taken on the
mantle of empire; its entire society is rotted from the inside.
But those who dug that part of the cultural sinkhole (films) are often the
very ones who oppose America's alleged empire-building aspirations. So,
maybe there are other reasons for "what naturally occurs".
Well, there's all kinds of reasons for a cultural decline no doubt. But
just because there is that supposed liberal bias in Hollywood, doesn't
mean the cultural scene isn't infected by imperial pretensions. At any
rate, movies are big business, and it isn't really those liberal actors
and directors who make the final decision on what the general run of
movies will be: it's corporate heads, who aren't necessarily liberal OR
conservative; they go with the flow of money. For every powerful
moviemaker who can get a liberal satire produced (Warren Beatty for
example) there are hundreds of suits willing to produce what are
basically neo-fascist imperial movies that showcase only power, money
and the basest sensationalism. Also, in parallel development to imperial
asperations and systems, you have the degradation of the film industry.
Say what you will about the first generation of movie moguls, but it is
clear they liked movies, understood them to a good degree, and - above
all else - relished good stories. There is also the shift from stories
that highlighted the struggles of the common man, and other tales of
class, to films underscoring rich and powerful men and women, the
elevation of the celebrity above the project, and so on.

dmh
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation')
2005-08-12 17:50:25 UTC
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Post by Sid9
Post by Perry Sailor
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head --
mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a DVD
Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
So your favourite two films star Mel Gibson and Charlton Heston.
--
"And he did bring them. It took a number of years, but one by one he
brought them here. Except for his father, that old man died where he was
born." -+ "Elia Kazan, "America, America"
Sid9
2005-08-12 21:20:43 UTC
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Post by Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation')
Post by Sid9
Post by Perry Sailor
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head --
mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a DVD
Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
So your favourite two films star Mel Gibson and Charlton Heston.
They were paid actors performing parts in a fictional story that has a lot
to say about human behavior.

PS Where did you go to high school?
u***@NewsReader.Com
2005-08-13 02:34:10 UTC
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Post by Sid9
Post by Perry Sailor
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head --
mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a DVD
Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
How about these three?

One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
M*A*S*H
Catch-22
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2005-08-13 02:40:41 UTC
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Post by u***@NewsReader.Com
Post by Sid9
Post by Perry Sailor
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head
-- mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a
DVD player, and/or ones I've seen the most times and never tire
Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
How about these three?
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
M*A*S*H
Catch-22
OK...but the book CATCH-22 was better than the picture.

I think we're living in Yossarian's world with Bush,Jr as prez
Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation')
2005-08-13 04:22:49 UTC
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Post by u***@NewsReader.Com
Post by Sid9
Post by Perry Sailor
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head --
mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a DVD
Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
How about these three?
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
M*A*S*H
Catch-22
I don't know about the middle one, but the books are better, first and
last.
--
"And he did bring them. It took a number of years, but one by one he
brought them here. Except for his father, that old man died where he was
born." -+ "Elia Kazan, "America, America"
Dale Houstman
2005-08-13 04:59:04 UTC
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Post by Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation')
Post by u***@NewsReader.Com
Post by Sid9
Post by Perry Sailor
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head --
mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a DVD
Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
How about these three?
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
M*A*S*H
Catch-22
I don't know about the middle one, but the books are better, first and
last.
One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest is a more than adequate film, but - yes-
the book was a better experience. It would have been difficult (and
possibly disasterous) to transfer the book's heavily symbolic style into
the movie, so I guess they did as well as could be expected. Catch-22
the film isn't fit to lick Catch-22 the book's feet. Orson Welles (who
is in the film) at one time considered making a film of the book. THAT
might have been intriguing, and certainly a lot better than the film we
got, which is a perennial bore.

dmh
Sid9
2005-08-13 12:31:37 UTC
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Post by Dale Houstman
Post by Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation')
Post by u***@NewsReader.Com
Post by Sid9
Post by Perry Sailor
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my
head -- mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after
getting a DVD player, and/or ones I've seen the most times and
never tire of: Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
How about these three?
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
M*A*S*H
Catch-22
I don't know about the middle one, but the books are better, first
and last.
One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest is a more than adequate film, but -
yes- the book was a better experience. It would have been difficult
(and possibly disasterous) to transfer the book's heavily symbolic
style into the movie, so I guess they did as well as could be
expected. Catch-22 the film isn't fit to lick Catch-22 the book's
feet. Orson Welles (who is in the film) at one time considered making
a film of the book. THAT might have been intriguing, and certainly a
lot better than the film we got, which is a perennial bore.
dmh
The movie served a purpose for those who don't read.
It showed Yossarians plight with Catch 22.

"Over There" shows it today in another way (FX, Wednesday, 10PM EDT)
Great Books Classics
2005-08-13 13:27:23 UTC
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FOUR BROTHERS!!

http://jollyrogerwest.com
u***@NewsReader.Com
2005-08-13 16:10:04 UTC
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Post by Dale Houstman
Post by Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation')
Post by u***@NewsReader.Com
Post by Sid9
Post by Perry Sailor
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head --
mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a DVD
Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
How about these three?
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
M*A*S*H
Catch-22
I don't know about the middle one, but the books are better, first and
last.
One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest is a more than adequate film, but - yes-
the book was a better experience. It would have been difficult (and
possibly disasterous) to transfer the book's heavily symbolic style into
the movie, so I guess they did as well as could be expected. Catch-22
the film isn't fit to lick Catch-22 the book's feet. Orson Welles (who
is in the film) at one time considered making a film of the book. THAT
might have been intriguing, and certainly a lot better than the film we
got, which is a perennial bore.
dmh
Although I agree with you about the books, the question was about movies.
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2005-08-13 16:37:19 UTC
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Post by Dale Houstman
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What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head --
mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a DVD
Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
How about these three?
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
M*A*S*H
Catch-22
I don't know about the middle one, but the books are better, first and
last.
One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest is a more than adequate film, but - yes-
the book was a better experience. It would have been difficult (and
possibly disasterous) to transfer the book's heavily symbolic style into
the movie, so I guess they did as well as could be expected. Catch-22
the film isn't fit to lick Catch-22 the book's feet. Orson Welles (who
is in the film) at one time considered making a film of the book. THAT
might have been intriguing, and certainly a lot better than the film we
got, which is a perennial bore.
dmh
Although I agree with you about the books, the question was about movies.
A rather silly comment: in the discussion it came up whether or not the
films mentioned were better than the books. I merely stated my opinion
about the matter. At any rate, saying that the book is better than the
movie IS a comment upon the movie.

dmh
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2005-08-13 19:49:50 UTC
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What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head
-- mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a
DVD player, and/or ones I've seen the most times and never tire
Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
How about these three?
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
M*A*S*H
Catch-22
I don't know about the middle one, but the books are better, first and
last.
One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest is a more than adequate film, but -
yes- the book was a better experience. It would have been difficult
(and possibly disasterous) to transfer the book's heavily symbolic
style into the movie, so I guess they did as well as could be expected.
Catch-22 the film isn't fit to lick Catch-22 the book's feet. Orson
Welles (who is in the film) at one time considered making a film of the
book. THAT might have been intriguing, and certainly a lot better than
the film we got, which is a perennial bore.
dmh
Although I agree with you about the books, the question was about movies.
A rather silly comment: in the discussion it came up whether or not the
films mentioned were better than the books. I merely stated my opinion
about the matter. At any rate, saying that the book is better than the
movie IS a comment upon the movie.
dmh
Point taken. I went back to the original post.
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2005-08-14 01:56:56 UTC
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Post by Perry Sailor
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
Not necessarily in order, and pretty much off the top of my head
-- mostly by thinking of the first ones I bought after getting a
DVD player, and/or ones I've seen the most times and never tire
Chinatown
Manhattan
Casablanca
The Best Years of Our Lives
Dr. Strangelove
The Maltese Falcon
Hannah and Her Sisters
The Philadelphia Story
The Third Man
Autumn Tale
La Dolce Vita
Ooops, that's 11. So sue me.
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
How about these three?
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
M*A*S*H
Catch-22
I don't know about the middle one, but the books are better, first and
last.
One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest is a more than adequate film, but -
yes- the book was a better experience. It would have been difficult
(and possibly disasterous) to transfer the book's heavily symbolic
style into the movie, so I guess they did as well as could be expected.
Catch-22 the film isn't fit to lick Catch-22 the book's feet. Orson
Welles (who is in the film) at one time considered making a film of the
book. THAT might have been intriguing, and certainly a lot better than
the film we got, which is a perennial bore.
dmh
Although I agree with you about the books, the question was about movies.
A rather silly comment: in the discussion it came up whether or not the
films mentioned were better than the books. I merely stated my opinion
about the matter. At any rate, saying that the book is better than the
movie IS a comment upon the movie.
dmh
Point taken. I went back to the original post.
Okay. That said, MOST films from books are worse than the books. The
exceptions are usually "second rate books" such as "Maltese Falcon" (a
good read as far as I'm concerned but not "Ulysses"), which often allow
for freer interpretation or are grounded in "good scenes" rather than
overly-complex ideas, or experimental uses of language. Thus, it is hard
to imagine a really good film being made from "Madame Bovary" or "Moby
Dick" but Jim Thompson's work has been turned into many good films.
"Catch-22" and "Cuckoo's Nest" are rather tough books to film, one
because of its satiric scope and the other because of the very literary
and metaphorical nature of the text. M*A*S*H - besides being aided by
the original writer - takes rather wide turns on the text, and -
furthermore - is the work of a quirky original himself, Altman, who
allows for improvisation. "Maltese Falcon" is almost a scene by scene
remake of the book (I believe only one major scene is left out) and
succeeds very well. There are examples of good films being made from
good books, both being exemplary in different ways: "Frankenstein" comes
to mind: the book is really a set of philosophical dialogues, and the
movie is a completely different animal. And so on...

dmh
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2005-08-14 00:09:09 UTC
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Citizen Kane
The Godfather
Casablanca
Lawrence of Arabia
Chinatown
The Seven Samurai
The Passion of Joan of Arc
Some Like It Hot
Rashomon
On the Waterfront
Dale Houstman
2005-08-14 02:00:59 UTC
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Treasure of the Sierra Madre
It Happened One Night
The Wizard of Oz
Solaris (the original!)
The Maltese Falcom
Chien Andalou
Vertigo
Red River
Touch of Evil
Chinatown
Doug 2.0
2005-08-14 07:20:56 UTC
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Matewan
Back To the Future
Platoon
Goodfellas
Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory
Office Space
Kingpin
Dances With Wolves
Raid On Entebbe
American Graffiti
Dracula (the original & Coppola's version)

Many,many more.

BTW,just this evening a commercial for a film titled "Skeleton Key" scared
the piss outta my wife & that got me to thinking "has any horror film ever
scared you." I'll admit The Exorcist kinda made me twitch a little bit,but
other than that no horror film has ever scared me.
A co-worker told me to watch The Grudge,guaranteeing that I would run from
the room in pant-pissing terror...I fell asleep about halfway
through...boring film!

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act."
- George Orwell

"Just because you got the power,don't mean you got the right."
- Lemmy Kilmister

I love my country,but I fear the government.
WAKE UP & SMELL THE FASCISM!!!
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David Matthews
2005-08-14 02:32:01 UTC
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BTW,just this evening a commercial for a film titled "Skeleton Key" scared
the piss outta my wife & that got me to thinking "has any horror film ever
scared you."
O.K. Let me start out by saying that I know "Skeleton Key" is a present film
and not a past one so someone will probably take me to task for mentioning
it but I want to make a general point here. I have the seen the commercial
and read the movies, which are a mixed bag, but everything I've seen or read
about it, good or bad, makes me thin - "This is a film I want to see". So I
will be doing so.. I felt the same about "Blade Runner" when it first came
out to generally poor reviews but I saw an excerpt on the Siskel/Ebert show
(who panned it) and I thought "Hey! I think I'll like this." And I did.

Dave in Toronto
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2005-08-14 11:50:59 UTC
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http://jollyrogerwest.com (THE NEW FASHION IS ETERNITY)

As all noble actions are preceded by thoughts, and all thoughts
reside in words, so it is that our freedom, character, and divine sense
of meaning derive from language and literature. The Gospel of John
presents a brief history of God's aspect and language, which are
forever wedded:

In the beginning was the Word, and
the Word was With God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.

And having stated thus, I cannot forget that the truest definition
of poetry is poetry herself, which remains the ungraspable phantom of
life-- the White Whale itself, immortal, immutable, and superior to
both the artist and critic, ultimately inaccessible, even to those who
created it:

Against long, dark clouds like a lonely torch,
A misty light, a late May misty night,
We hopped the fence, had a seat on the porch,
The windswept spray haloed the sweeping light,
She told me stories from the years before,
When they saw ghosts dancing within the waves,
Some friends on a blanket, down on the shore,
Watched the phantoms rise from their watery graves.
How beautiful she was, for I could see,
A sense of that profound romantic high,
We shared the wild mystery of the sea,
Knowing deep down all else would someday die.
The storm blew in upon the wicked wind,
Elements had never been more alive,
On nights like those are forged the ties that bind,
When in the black ye see a light yet strive.
Against long dark clouds like a lonely torch,
I found myself ten years on down the road,
In a culture with little left to scorch,
And I recalled how the thunder did explode,
I remembered the way the wind did howl,
How the sea roared with all inequities,
And yet the beacon gave no avowal,
A solemn sentinel above capricious seas.
A misty light, a late May misty night,
I find myself there, holding Misty tight.

It turned out the Corolla Light was locked, so what we did instead
was we sat in some old rocking chairs on the front porch of this quaint
little house beside the lighthouse. It was the gift shop, I could tell,
for I could see all the racks with the postcards and miniature
lighthouses and books on Blackbeard. They'd just found Blackbeard's
ship about eighty miles on down the coast, just off of Wilmington. And
there, on the windowsill, somebody had left a copy of Moby Dick. It was
a big old hardback edition, and as the gusts of wind swirled in under
the awning, they flipped the pages back and forth, back and forth, as
if some ghost was searching for the one portentious passage that alone
contained the words which so beautifully expressed the moment's somber
sentiments-- the humble, profound feeling that precedes a spring storm
blowing in off the Atlantic.

Now I'd never been all that good at small talk, and it didn't
help too much that this was sort of a first date. So in a way Herman
Melville came to my rescue on that night, just as he would, time and
again, with words that filled a contemporary void, echoing the subtler,
unheralded beauty, providing a literary beacon by which to navigate
through life as aspiring classical poets. Moby Dick became a literary
bible for Drake, Elliot, and I, as we saw ourselves as the captain of
the Pequod, being called upon to avenge the deposed Greats and the
honor, nobility, and pride of Generation X.

Moby Dick was a tragic record of the harshness and indifference
of the baser natural and human elements, which are utterly immune
towards the greater glory of all rhyming contemplations, just like
David Geffen and Time Warner. And we took it to be a motif for the
modern reality of young artists coming of age in this postmodern fog,
surrounded by the intellectually indifferent, amoral, ambitious
university presidents, editors, publishers, and professors. The
classical traits, such as honor, honesty, humility, prudence, and
integrity had been cast overboard along with the classical literature.
The abstract structure of the culture and the old, traditional,
time-honored rules had been deemed an obstacle by the rising
resentniks, for the Truth contained therein got in the way of their
politics. Forever be it known that there is a difference between Truth
and Politics, and that good Politics is that which humbles itself
before the Truth. Thus the postmodern liberals performed a most wicked
crime upon the culture and future generations. They deconstructed the
Western heritage, removed God from the center and circumference of the
universe, and replaced Him with fringe feminists, economic indicators,
multiculturalists, and marketing executives, just to make sure the
transition looked cool.

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http://jollyrogerwest.com
David Matthews
2005-08-14 08:44:55 UTC
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Post by Doug 2.0
BTW,just this evening a commercial for a film titled "Skeleton Key" scared
the piss outta my wife & that got me to thinking "has any horror film ever
scared you."
O.K. Let me start out by saying that I know "Skeleton Key" is a present
film and not a past one so someone will probably take me to task for
mentioning it but I want to make a general point here. I have the seen the
commercial and read the movies, which are a mixed bag, but everything I've
seen or read about it, good or bad, makes me thin - "This is a film I want
to see". So I will be doing so.. I felt the same about "Blade Runner" when
it first came out to generally poor reviews but I saw an excerpt on the
Siskel/Ebert show (who panned it) and I thought "Hey! I think I'll like
this." And I did.
Dave in Toronto
.....and of course "makes me thin" should have been "makes me think". (I
honestly was not making a bad joke there -"Skeleton Key" - get it?)

Dave in Toronto
Sean O'Hara
2005-08-14 23:48:06 UTC
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In the Year of the Cock, the Great and Powerful Bill Bonde ('by a
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Post by Sid9
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
So your favourite two films star Mel Gibson and Charlton Heston.
Okay, I give up. Where was Mel Gibson in Blade Runner?
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My name is Jesus. I was named after a band leader in Panama City.
-Music from Another Room
Sid9
2005-08-15 02:55:24 UTC
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Post by Sean O'Hara
In the Year of the Cock, the Great and Powerful Bill Bonde ('by a
Post by Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation')
Post by Sid9
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
So your favourite two films star Mel Gibson and Charlton Heston.
Okay, I give up. Where was Mel Gibson in Blade Runner?
Disguised as Harrison Ford?
Sue
2005-08-15 11:00:57 UTC
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In no order:

Star Wars (the original 1977 non-messed-with version)
Amadeus
Glory
A Tale of Two Cities (1935 version with Ronald Colman)
1776
The Wizard of Oz
Back to the Future
Gettysburg
A Christmas Carol (Alistair Sim version)
Toy Story
Derek Janssen
2005-08-15 22:50:54 UTC
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Post by Sue
Star Wars (the original 1977 non-messed-with version)
Amadeus
Glory
A Tale of Two Cities (1935 version with Ronald Colman)
1776
The Wizard of Oz
Back to the Future
Gettysburg
A Christmas Carol (Alistair Sim version)
Toy Story
lors of The NeoClassical Renaissance!! A Brand New Coffee
Shop/Brewery For All of Ye!!
<snip>
(Just a friendly reality check, for all five groups:
This is what you get if you answer this guy...Well, what did you EXPECT?)

Derek Janssen (let's just leave k00ky the Klown alone for the time
being, 'kay?)
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2005-08-19 11:56:17 UTC
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http://jollyrogerwest.com (THE RENAISSANCE!!!)

Now it so happened that this past June had been the first time I'd
returned to Nantucket in close to ten years, and I found myself sharing
the island with the third annual Nantucket Film Festival. The Nantucket
Film Festival is the one annual film festival purported to honor the
screenwriter and celebrate the art of writing for film, which I found a
curious entity to be celebrating, as I have always considered
screenwriting to be a most dismal form of literature. For tell me
sailor, where is there room in the contemporary screenplay for rhyme
and meter, for assonance and alliteration, for metaphor and simile, for
those deep, portentous thoughts which define the most noble aspects of
man, which anchor our morality, exalt our aspirations, and sometimes
provide us coveted glimpses of that Truth which sets all free? What
forces can compel an author to allow these vital literary devices to
lay idle and rust, while pursuing an end that in the end he does not
even own? What privateer would engage in battle without his cutlass or
pistol, only to give up the ship, even if it was won? In film the final
product lies not in the script but in the script which has been
interpreted by producers, directors, and actors themselves, while in
literature the final product is that which was composed by the writer.
Literature, in its supreme silence and invisibility, is the most
haunting, intimate form of art.

Indeed it may be said that screenwriters are far more generous than all
the philosophers and poets who keep the creation of their art a private
matter, but who steps forth to deny that the classical literary writer
plumbs far deeper and soars far higher than the screen writer? Just
because ye can't fathom the profound depths of the wild blue doesn't
mean that ye wouldn't drown if ye were to dive in. While the classic
novel can be chopped, abridged, whittled, and paired down down until it
resembles a screenplay, the latter has yet to be built up or raised to
the level of the former. And the world's most profound novel, Plato's
Dialogues, has yet to be adapted. Visual truths only ever touch the
surface, and all elements and entities have surface, but words alone
can fathom that uniqueness of man which was created in God's intangible
image, the soul.

Are we not fortunate that Thomas "I cannot live without books"
Jefferson was influenced by the classical literature, religion, and
philosophy of antiquity, from the Bible to Cicero to Plato to
Shakespeare, rather than MTV? Are we not thankful that J.D. Salinger
shunned the visual medium and more pagan dispositions and honored his
private vision by the precision of the printed word, so much so that he
asked an editor to send back The Catcher in The Rye when the editor
attempted to edit it? And this was after the novel had finally been
accepted after having been rejected over fifteen times by the literary
experts of the day. The same immortal, nameless experts who a few years
earlier had seen it fit to condemn Melville to literary anonymity, and
who had long ago exiled Anaxagoras. And though ye search long and hard
at the corner Blockbuster, matie, ye won't find The Catcher in The Rye
there, and ye never shall, unless ye find it beside Aristotle's
Poetics. And though ye may rent Moby Dick and enjoy Gregory Peck's Ahab
or Father Mapple's Sermon, the difference between the novel and the
movie is every bit as great as that yawning divide between the two
Nantuckets.

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http://jollyrogerwest.com (THE RENAISSANCE!!!)

Where else can one glimpse the rugged individual's wisdom and infinite
independence in all it's glory but in the printed word? Was it not in
the founding document's and original American scripture's best interest
that Hamilton, Madison, and Jay studied Aristotle, Homer, and Moses,
rather than Pulp Fiction and Good Will Hunting? In the movies poets,
scientists and philosophers are often portrayed, but the actual poetry,
science, and philosophy which comprises the essence of genius is
absent. How many statesmen or scientists needed a shrink or Robin
Williams to unlock their full potential? The hallmark of genius is not
the ability to solve math problems, but it is the Will to Understand
the Universe. Genius originates not in answering, but in asking. Did
not Einstein say that curiosity is more important than knowledge? We
inhabit a culture that honors the actor, or the seemer, far more than
those who are-- most would rather watch or act in Dead Poet's Society
than live it-- for living requires work, vision, dedication, ardor,
committment, and character. And let us ponder the true nature and
intellect of people who play poets and prophets. Contrast the temporal
pop-culture-profanity-laden dialogue of the young writer's
(screenwriter's) interview in Details with the resounding private
correspondence of our founding fathers, and there ye shall see that
fame and fortune did once favor the more profound, humbler men. Why is
it that after having gained publicity's podium these modern "Southpark"
celebrities refrain from announcing that freedom is a gift that God
granted to the moral and righteous? Is their spiritual, intellectual,
and moral indifference a prerequisite for appearing in the pages? Then
I have been utterly banned and resolutely censored by the modern
liberal elite. Did not the words of Locke and the prophets quite aptly
capture the sentiments of our fundamental freedoms and Natural Law
without any special effects, lighting, camera angles, cartoons, or
movie stars? How is it that University Presidents can smile and present
Martin Scorsese with honorary degrees while the chief officers aboard
their ships teach that these words mean nothing? Do not get me wrong
here, mate-- for I very much enjoy a good episode of Seinfeld, just as
I enjoy a stroll along the pristine Main Street in Nantucket on a dry
June afternoon, sipping on a Nantucket Nectar, but yet I find myself
unsatiated at the end of the sojourn. I wish to see something more, to
hear something which resonates a little deeper within my soul, to
witness something which leaves a more permanent and enchanting
after-image in me mind's eye. I seek both the experience and the
meaning. I seek character beneath every cobblestone, and significance
under every slate shingle. For I need that more fundamental Nantucket,
mate, and I feel far less alone when in the company of others who seek
it too. I find myself perpetually attracted to the island within the
island, the heart of the soul, the fundamental iron that distinguishes
all men of character, independence, and creativity. Perhaps that's why
you and I make such good shipmates.

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Goro
2005-08-15 19:08:13 UTC
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In the Year of the Cock, the Great and Powerful Bill Bonde ('by a
Post by Bill Bonde ('by a commodius vicus of recirculation')
Post by Sid9
Blade Runner
Soylent Green
The Graduate
So your favourite two films star Mel Gibson and Charlton Heston.
Okay, I give up. Where was Mel Gibson in Blade Runner?
he was the missing replicant!

or maybe he's confusing with Rutger Hauer.

-goro-
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2005-08-15 10:51:41 UTC
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This is my favorite movie: THE RENAISSANCE

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The night fell fast, I found myself alone,
A DC summer storm was blowing in,
I stood at the tomb, these soldiers unknown,
and knelt and prayed for the rain to begin.
Not for the monuments nor any money,
nor pomp, circumstance, nor the pedant's pride,
the politician's smile, nor lawyer's fee,
for these present treasures, none of them died.
I ran to Jefferson to read the wall,
to make sure that God was still written there,
then to Washington, and across the Mall,
where Lincoln invoked his immortal prayer,
Winded and ragged, lightning everywhere,
I slowed to a walk, pondered what would be,
if God's great Enlightenment weren't there,
we could still be brave but never be free.
I found comfort in the Mall's mud and rain,
without mines nor cannons nor raining shells,
so free from fear, iniquity, and pain,
because thousands had endured a thousand hells.
And I found myself back before the tomb,
humbled by the humbled, with naught for name,
shivering, though they had the colder room,
sans light, nor sound, nor tomorrow, nor fame.
I thought for a moment, what it could be,
the center and circumference of their dreaming,
it must have been the prophet's poetry,
that granted their souls eternal meaning.
So judges and Congressmen, please don't forget,
the reason these patriots picked up swords,
not for perks nor power were their deaths met,
but for honor and duty-- for mere words.
So do take pause before telling a lie,
for there's one more thing I saw on that night,
as the wind and the rain began to die,
I walked away, turned, and beheld a light.
Wil'O'wisp, reddish light, sailor's delight,
It hovered there-- just above the tomb's stone,
As fading thunder whispered to the night,
"Freedom's the name of all soldiers unknown."
Captain Ranger McCoy
2005-09-14 00:53:17 UTC
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JOIN THE RENAISSANCE!!

Autumn Rangers is where NASCAR meets Moby Dick, where the Founding
Fathers hang with Kid Rock, where poetry collides with physics, and
where Classic-American-Country-Hiphop-Lit burns through the pomo fog to
exalt America's heart and soul. Autumn Rangers is the American
Renaissance that's been a long time coming, where the Man with No Name
rides again with John Wayne.

The Great American Novel roars 'cross the Rugged American Terrain in a
Jeep and thunders down Dante's Lost Highway in Autumn's Corvette, with
Ranger riding shotgun, packing the Constitution and Declaration of
Independence, chasing down that classic American Dream that makes
Outlaws out of Romantics these days.

Autumn Rangers is a book, movie, video game, magazine, and philosophy
for packing up and heading west, for hiding out and laying low on the
run, for taking a chance with that one life you've been given--taking a
chance on living it from the inside out for those higher ideals,
standing up for what's right, defending eternity against all odds,
facing down irony's evil Sheriff and his Deputies at high noon with a
couple Colt .45 Peacemakers loaded with poetry, and becoming an Autumn
Ranger. But first and foremost, from the Alpha to the Omega, Autumn
Rangers is a story. . .

U.S. Marine Ranger McCoy, an F-22 Raptor fighter pilot, is the Classic
American Hero. After defending the US Constitution from enemies
without, getting shot down and escaping on home, he finds himself on
the run, defending the US Constitution from enemies within. Folk rocker
Autumn West is the All-American Girl. After living for things greater
than herself, she finds herself on the run from a failed marriage, with
a broken heart and jaded soul.

Ranger tried to trade his guns for a camera and a pen, and Autumn tried
to trade a life on the road for a farm and a family, but life (the pomo
context) fell short of their dreams.

U.S. Marine Ranger McCoy, the classic American Hero, defends the
Constitution from enemies without and within, battling terrorists and
postmodern corporations in his quest to win Autumn's heart, save
APRIL's soul, and preserve America's freedom.
Post by g***@yahoo.com
Elliot,
Thanks again for doing this e-mail interview. Please
answer the questions and then e-mail them back to me
by Saturday! Thanks.
1. What is the main idea of your book?
A renaissance. Our generation has grown up in an era
wherin higher ideals and classic truths have been all
but banished. Autumn and Ranger come to realize this
as they drive cross country on the run, and they
decide to fight for the renaissance as "Autumn
Rangers." An Autumn Ranger is someone who calls the
contemporary consumeristic bluff and lives for the
higher ideals. An Autumn Ranger is a romantic
striving for a renaissance, wherein words mean things
and promises last forever, and this is the book's
subplot.

The plot is more tangible. US Marine Ranger McCoy
invented APRIL, an advanced computer with artificial
intelligence. While he's serving overseas as a
fighter pilot, Silicon Virtue Inc. steals APRIL from
his MIT lab and takes her to Doom Mountain in Death
Valley, where she is put to work creating WMD's. To
save her, Ranger must activate her deeper moral soul
named Beatrice. Ranger wears the ring with the codes
to Beatrice.

He is shot down over Afghanistan, and like Odysseus,
Ranger surmounts impossible obstacles to journey on
back home. But once back in the US, he's on the run
again, as Silicon Virtue agents come for his ring.

As he journeys across America, he meets Autumn, a
mysterious folk singer with knowledge ranging from
classical art to the martial arts. She helps him
elude agents, and they fall for one-another. But love
ain't easy, and in addition to activitating Beatrice
in APRIL, he must win Autumn's heart by resurrecting
her forgotten faith.

And a classic twist in the book unites the plot and
subplot in a head-on collision. Winnining Autumn's
heart and saving APRIL's soul turn out to be one and
the same.
Post by g***@yahoo.com
2. How long did it take to write the book?
About four years.
Post by g***@yahoo.com
3. This is your first book, correct? Will you be
writing more? Is this your true calling?
This is actually my fourth book. I have previously
published a novel, a poetry book, and a collection of
essays. They're all available in major bookstores
such as amazon.com, powells.com, and bn.com. :)
Post by g***@yahoo.com
4. Why is it important for college students to read
your book? Does it connect with them at some level?
This generation needs a renaissance. We need to move
beyond postmodernism in our art and literature, in our
relationships and lives.

Hollywood is in decline. NY publishing is in decline.
The traditional family is in decline. As Aristotle
observed thousands of years ago, when storytelling
goes bad, the result is decadence.

Autumn Rangers is a journey into the realm of the
Great Books and Classics, but it's set in the
contemporary context, complete with hiphop,
text-messaging, and Avril Lavigne. It performs the
eternal ideals in the living language, and invites
students to live the classical principles.

Autumn rangers is meant to inspire and exalt.
Students own the future, and it's up to you to build a
Hollywood renaissance. Head west and become a
director, a producer, or screenwriter, and revive the
classic myths in the living language. Or journey up
to NY and become an editor, agent, writer, or
publisher.

Less and less people are reading literary books, but
we can change that, by letting literature live once
again, by letting her reach for immortality via
classical stories. Resurrect the ideals and classic
values that remind us of what it is to live on a
higher plain. Become an Autumn Ranger!

We, as a society, have forgotten how to tell stories,
as we've dismissed the eternal ideals common to the
great books and classics. The Hollywood boxoffice
just suffered its worst year in this era, and the
literary novel has long ago gone out of vogue-both
have been affected by postmodernism-the nihilistic
idea that higher truths and values don't exist. The
eternal ideals must be perpetually performed in the
living language, and that's what Autumn Rangers does.

Autumn Rangers is a contemporary portal on out to that
community of eternal souls. Written in a rich context
with themes borrowed from Dante's Inferno, the
Odyssey, and the Count of Monte Christo, Autumn
Rangers is the education that was once given at the
university.

If you're going to work in Hollywood and build a
renaissance out there, you're going to need to know
the classics, such as Aristotle, Shakespeare, and the
Bible-just like Cecil B. Demille, Mel Gibson, and
George Lucas did. If you're going to become a
lawyer, and strive for justice, you're going to need
to know the classics, such as Shakespeare, Aristotle,
and the Bible-just like Lincoln, Jefferson, and
Madison did.

Autumn Rangers is written within this rich context.
Post by g***@yahoo.com
5. What is the most important lesson learned from
the book?
Call the bluff and follow your dreams-you are the one
chance your dreams have of becoming real. Truth is
beauty and beauty truth. People might try to tell you
otherwise, but call their bluff. Become that Autumn
Ranger, win Autumn's heart, and save APRIL's soul.
Post by g***@yahoo.com
6. Where did you go to college? What did you major
in?
I went to Princeton. I majored in physics but took a
creative writing class each semester. I had Joyce
Carol Oates, Russell Banks, and Toni Morrison as
professors.
Post by g***@yahoo.com
7. Any other comments or quotes you would like in
the article?
The renaissance is yours for the taking.

Best,

Dr. E :)

http://autumnrangers.com
l***@seed.net.tw
2005-09-14 02:51:31 UTC
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On 13 Sep 2005 17:53:17 -0700, "Captain Ranger McCoy" <***@yahoo.com> wrote:


Forrest Gump
Shawshenk Redemption
Groundhog Day
CTHD
Dale Houstman
2005-09-14 04:04:58 UTC
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Post by Marvin The Paranoid Android
Forrest Gump
Shawshenk Redemption
Groundhog Day
CTHD
Forrest Gump!?

I'd rather watch Forrest Tucker...

dmh

s***@racsa.co.cr
2005-08-12 18:16:27 UTC
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8 1/2
Treasure of the Sierra Madre
Dr. Strangelove
La Dolce Vita
The Maltese Falcon
Apocalypse Now
Shane
Jaws
Unforgiven
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
Post by Captain Ranger McCoy
What're your favorite movies of all time?
1. Braveheart
2. The Outlaw Jose Wales (Braveheart set in the west)
3. Office Space
4. 8 mile
5. Heat
6. Tombstone
7. Passion of the Christ
8. Roger and Me
9. The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
10. Moby Dick (with Gregory Peck)
http://jollyrogerwest.com/showthread.php?t=642
alejandro de tacobell
2005-08-14 19:32:38 UTC
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favs as opposed to objective best list?

hmm

in no particular order...

excalibur
once upon a time in america
blade runner
harold and maude
cool hand luke
midnight cowboy
one flew over cuckoo's nest
makioka sisters
13th warrior
dita saxova
hey babu riba
midnight run
mystic pizza
mean streets
jules and jim
last detail
tokyo drifter
zatoichi meets yojimbo
bgc 2032-2033
laputa
cinema paradiso
fountainhead
it's a wonderful life
the thing by carpenter
carlito's way
scarface with pacino
godfather

etc, etc.
Mike V.
2005-08-15 20:26:14 UTC
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Captain Ranger McCoy wrote:
Mine are:

The Big Lebowski
The Big Sleep
The Maltese Falcon
Amadeus
Howard's End
Goldfinger
Fugitive
Jaws
North By Northwest
Rear Window
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