In case you think 100% female DW fans are enthralled wi th a female Doctor at the helm

[The Doctor]

Let quote a female Doctor Who Fan:

Frankly, I don't think some people realize just how sadistic the Radical Left are! Those who sadly think they were born the wrong sex/gender don't realize that this is an scientific impossibility. And never mind about the gender role crap! Men can be stay at Dads and Women can be Nuclear Physicists. So that whole "gender role" thing is just a moronic smokescreen and a highly insulting one at that.
Now if you'll forgive me for sounding a bit insulting but there are those on the Radical Left with High IQ'S but no common sense (hence the term pinhead) who think of themselves as the "Intellectually elite" and those with lower IQ's who agree with that with which the stuck-up, pompous elite CHOOSES to share with them are regarded as "Useful Idiots". They're told just enough to be convinced that THEIR side is the correct side and that those who don't agree with them are evil, selfish, overly-judgemental, etc, etc ad nauseum! The usual B.S that makes gullible fools angry and eager to endorse whatever "Noble and Inclusive" B.S that the Elitists tell them will make them good and caring people BUT alas those "evil conservatives" who don't understand science (Never mind the one's whose IQ's are higher than even the stuck up elitist pricks) and "hate" those who are different, etc, etc, ad nauseum!
This is of course PURE BILE!! Conservatives do not hate those who are different (90% do not! as for the 10%? You can find that sort in ANY group!!) we actually feel sorry for them and actually want to help them. We see ourselves (which is what one should at least take into consideration when judging us. At least those who wish to do so fairly) as trying to throw a life-preserver to someone who is caught in a whirlpool that is slowly but surely sucking them in and downward at leisurely pace. Or throwing up road-blocks to try and stop someone from slowly driving over a cliff. And when we do we get yelled at, called names, laughed at, mocked and accused of being hateful. Yeah, because trying to save people is really a hateful thing to do. Again, you don't have to agree with our point of view BUT knock off with all the ignorant bile-spewing. Since Jan some on the left have become completely unhinged. It's at an all time low. How about everyone (especially those who came here to troll which is something only a socially maladjusted loser would do) try to see things from the moderates point of view. Radicals on either side are too far gone to be reasoned with. Both suffer from delusions of grandeur! And both know how to wind people who are somewhat on their side, to start behaving in a very inappropriate manner.
People who think they're the wrong sex need psychiatric help! Not some sick plastic surgery. And many feel just as depressed as they did before the operation. And it has NOTHING to with any religious or political group! That's what cowards and liars who want to score some cheap political points do. NO! The harsh cold reality is that THE PERSON THEMSELVES don't like what they've done because they know deep down inside that what they've done wasn't right. And so they change back. But whatever made them loathe themselves (there have been proven cases where some sick, psychotic mothers groomed their sons into being women.) so they change back. Still not happy so they change back yet again! And then some (40% of them!!!) end up committing suicide. And again, the Radical Left, like some demented bunch of sociopaths, blame those who oppose this type of operation and behavior when the reality is THEY'RE they ones who are to blame for not allowing these mentally ill people get the treatment they need! That like denying Cancer treatment to a cancer patient and then blaming conservatives when they die. THAT, my friends is the sick, azz-backwards and upside down world we live in today. SMH

[Idlehands]

<CHOP OF NONSENSE>

No link, no context, no paragraphs, just a solid block of unreadable
nonsense.

Start by posting proof where anybody said "100% female DW fans are
enthralled wi th a female Doctor at the helm" and go from there.

[David Johnston]

Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

[Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy]

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Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI
agents."
--
Terry Austin

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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI
agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

[The Doctor]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI
agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

Bah!

Post by Dimensional Traveler
--
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation
instinct are running screaming.

[Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

[Dimensional Traveler]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your "children
are FBI agents".

[Agamemnon]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your "children
are FBI agents".

It's on script since its referring to the fact that FBI agents are
posing as children on the internet in order to entrap child molesters.

[The Doctor]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your "children
are FBI agents".

It's on script since its referring to the fact that FBI agents are
posing as children on the internet in order to entrap child molesters.

Correct

[J. Clarke]

On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:53:22 +0000, Agamemnon

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your "children
are FBI agents".

It's on script since its referring to the fact that FBI agents are
posing as children on the internet in order to entrap child molesters.

And it's even worse, there are bots that pose as children on the
internet to entrap people who wouldn't intentionally molest a child
into responding in legally actionable ways.

Quis custodiet ipso custodes?

[Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy]

Post by J. Clarke
On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:53:22 +0000, Agamemnon

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On 11/10/2017 6:32 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

Post by Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who
fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and
children are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is
usually used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where
it refers to Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your
"children are FBI agents".

It's on script since its referring to the fact that FBI agents
are posing as children on the internet in order to entrap child
molesters.

And it's even worse, there are bots that pose as children on the
internet to entrap people who wouldn't intentionally molest a
child into responding in legally actionable ways.

You can't entrap someone without their cooperation. A normal person
would respond to such an event by reporting it to authorities. It
happens, but isn't newsworthy enough to read about on the internet.
(On rare occasions, two law enforcement groups will end up trying
to entrap each other. That's noteworthy enough to show up regularly
in movies and TV shows.)

Post by J. Clarke
Quis custodiet ipso custodes?

The eternal question.
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

[Dimensional Traveler]

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Post by Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your
"children are FBI agents".

It's on script since its referring to the fact that FBI agents are
posing as children on the internet in order to entrap child molesters.

The original is "Where men are men, women are men and sheep are
nervous." But when the kids are FBI agents its best not to ask what the
sheep are.

[Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy]

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On 11/10/2017 6:32 PM, Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

Post by Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who
fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and
children are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is
usually used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where
it refers to Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your
"children are FBI agents".

It's on script since its referring to the fact that FBI agents
are posing as children on the internet in order to entrap child
molesters.

The original is "Where men are men, women are men and sheep are
nervous." But when the kids are FBI agents its best not to ask
what the sheep are.

Actually, the original "let's make fun of the Scots (or Welsh)"
joke was "where men are men, women are *scarce* and sheep are
nervous."

The "and children are FBI agents" bit is an early internet joke,
unlreated to the other one.
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

[Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy]

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Post by Dimensional Traveler

Post by Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who
fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and
children are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is
usually used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where
it refers to Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your
"children are FBI agents".

It's on script since its referring to the fact that FBI agents
are posing as children on the internet in order to entrap child
molesters.

And the cliche predates when that was actually a common tactic. In
the mid 90s, the FBI had something like two agents assigned - part
time - to keep an eye on the internet.
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

[Your Name]

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Post by Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy

Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your
"children are FBI agents".

Google Maps used cameras strapped to sheep to be able to add the Fareo
Islands to Street View. :-)

<https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2017/nov/02/faroe-islands-added-to-google-street-view-sheep-cameras>

[Dimensional Traveler]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your
"children are FBI agents".

Google Maps used cameras strapped to sheep to be able to add the Fareo
Islands to Street View.  :-)
<https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2017/nov/02/faroe-islands-added-to-google-street-view-sheep-cameras>

I told you not to ask about the sheep!

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your
"children are FBI agents".

Google Maps used cameras strapped to sheep to be able to add the Fareo
Islands to Street View.  :-)
<https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2017/nov/02/faroe-islands-added-to-google-street-view-sheep-cameras>

I told you not to ask about the sheep!

Apparently, various sheep parts were used in the "Alien Autopsy" film
from 1995, which was faked by someone who did the special effects on
Doctor Who ... just to bring it back semi-on-topic: Doctor Who AND
sheep. ;-)

<http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sheep-organs-london-flat-doctor-11236317>

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your
"children are FBI agents".

Google Maps used cameras strapped to sheep to be able to add the Fareo
Islands to Street View.  :-)

<https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2017/nov/02/faroe-islands-added-to-google-street-view-sheep-cameras>
I told you not to ask about the sheep!
--
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation
instinct are running screaming.

Bah!

[Adam H. Kerman]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your
"children are FBI agents".

Google Maps used cameras strapped to sheep to be able to add the Fareo
Islands to Street View. :-)
<https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2017/nov/02/faroe-islands-added-to-google-street-view-sheep-cameras>

Hah! Sheep view.

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your
"children are FBI agents".

Google Maps used cameras strapped to sheep to be able to add the Fareo
Islands to Street View. :-)
<https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2017/nov/02/faroe-islands-added-to-google-street-view-sheep-cameras>

Hah! Sheep view.

Bah!!

[Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who
fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is
usually used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it
refers to Wales).

Yes, I know that but you had already gone off script with your
"children are FBI agents".

No, that was the cliche in the early days of the internet.
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

[suzeeq]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

But what about Montana...?

[The Doctor]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

But what about Montana...?

Where is there sheep in Montana?

[Dimensional Traveler]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to Wales).

But what about Montana...?

I heard it as applying to New Zealand since sheep actually outnumber
people there IIRC.

[anim8rfsk]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to Wales).

But what about Montana...?

I heard it as applying to New Zealand since sheep actually outnumber
people there IIRC.

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/agribusiness/sheep/the-ratio-of-person-t
o-sheep-in-new-zealand-has-dropped/news-story/1a6dbd5575198cb0e70ccb5c2b8
57f22

There used to be 20 sheep for every person in NZ.
Now the latest statistics from Beef and Lamb NZ show it has fallen to
about seven to one, or about 30 million sheep.
The sheep-to-person ratio is still higher than Australia’s, where there
are 74 million sheep to 23.5 million ?people — a ratio of three to one.

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to Wales).

But what about Montana...?

I heard it as applying to New Zealand since sheep actually outnumber
people there IIRC.

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/agribusiness/sheep/the-ratio-of-person-t
o-sheep-in-new-zealand-has-dropped/news-story/1a6dbd5575198cb0e70ccb5c2b8
57f22
There used to be 20 sheep for every person in NZ.
Now the latest statistics from Beef and Lamb NZ show it has fallen to
about seven to one, or about 30 million sheep.
The sheep-to-person ratio is still higher than Australia’s, where there
are 74 million sheep to 23.5 million ?people — a ratio of three to one.

A lot of New Zealand is quite hilly, so it better to farm (some breeds
of) sheep than say cattle or crops.

Visit almost any country on the planet and you'll find more ants than
people. ;-)

[The Doctor]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to Wales).

But what about Montana...?

I heard it as applying to New Zealand since sheep actually outnumber
people there IIRC.

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/agribusiness/sheep/the-ratio-of-person-t
o-sheep-in-new-zealand-has-dropped/news-story/1a6dbd5575198cb0e70ccb5c2b8
57f22
There used to be 20 sheep for every person in NZ.
Now the latest statistics from Beef and Lamb NZ show it has fallen to
about seven to one, or about 30 million sheep.
The sheep-to-person ratio is still higher than Australia’s, where there
are 74 million sheep to 23.5 million ?people — a ratio of three to one.

A lot of New Zealand is quite hilly, so it better to farm (some breeds
of) sheep than say cattle or crops.
Visit almost any country on the planet and you'll find more ants than
people. ;-)

True :-(

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Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to Wales).

But what about Montana...?

I heard it as applying to New Zealand since sheep actually outnumber
people there IIRC.

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/agribusiness/sheep/the-ratio-of-person-t
o-sheep-in-new-zealand-has-dropped/news-story/1a6dbd5575198cb0e70ccb5c2b8
57f22
There used to be 20 sheep for every person in NZ.
Now the latest statistics from Beef and Lamb NZ show it has fallen to
about seven to one, or about 30 million sheep.
The sheep-to-person ratio is still higher than Australia’s, where there
are 74 million sheep to 23.5 million ?people — a ratio of three to one.

A lot of New Zealand is quite hilly, so it better to farm (some breeds
of) sheep than say cattle or crops.
Visit almost any country on the planet and you'll find more ants than
people.

That reminds me of Houston and Atlanta and those fireant that bite.

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Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to Wales).

But what about Montana...?

I heard it as applying to New Zealand since sheep actually outnumber
people there IIRC.

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/agribusiness/sheep/the-ratio-of-person-t
o-sheep-in-new-zealand-has-dropped/news-story/1a6dbd5575198cb0e70ccb5c2b8
57f22
There used to be 20 sheep for every person in NZ.
Now the latest statistics from Beef and Lamb NZ show it has fallen to
about seven to one, or about 30 million sheep.
The sheep-to-person ratio is still higher than Australia’s, where there
are 74 million sheep to 23.5 million ?people — a ratio of three to one.

A lot of New Zealand is quite hilly, so it better to farm (some breeds
of) sheep than say cattle or crops.
Visit almost any country on the planet and you'll find more ants than
people.  ;-)

I do NOT want to even know of the existence of studies on human-ant
sexual relations.

[Your Name]

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Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to Wales).

But what about Montana...?

I heard it as applying to New Zealand since sheep actually outnumber
people there IIRC.

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/agribusiness/sheep/the-ratio-of-person-t
o-sheep-in-new-zealand-has-dropped/news-story/1a6dbd5575198cb0e70ccb5c2b8
57f22
There used to be 20 sheep for every person in NZ.
Now the latest statistics from Beef and Lamb NZ show it has fallen to
about seven to one, or about 30 million sheep.
The sheep-to-person ratio is still higher than Australia’s, where there
are 74 million sheep to 23.5 million ?people â€" a ratio of three to one.

A lot of New Zealand is quite hilly, so it better to farm (some breeds
of) sheep than say cattle or crops.
Visit almost any country on the planet and you'll find more ants than
people.  ;-)

I do NOT want to even know of the existence of studies on human-ant
sexual relations.

Then you'd better stay away from the Ant-Man movie(s). ;-)

[The Doctor]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to Wales).

But what about Montana...?

I heard it as applying to New Zealand since sheep actually outnumber
people there IIRC.

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/agribusiness/sheep/the-ratio-of-person-t
o-sheep-in-new-zealand-has-dropped/news-story/1a6dbd5575198cb0e70ccb5c2b8
57f22
There used to be 20 sheep for every person in NZ.
Now the latest statistics from Beef and Lamb NZ show it has fallen to
about seven to one, or about 30 million sheep.
The sheep-to-person ratio is still higher than Australia’s,

where there

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are 74 million sheep to 23.5 million ?people â€" a ratio of three to one.

A lot of New Zealand is quite hilly, so it better to farm (some breeds
of) sheep than say cattle or crops.
Visit almost any country on the planet and you'll find more ants than
people.  ;-)

I do NOT want to even know of the existence of studies on human-ant
sexual relations.

Then you'd better stay away from the Ant-Man movie(s). ;-)

Good one!

[The Doctor]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to Wales).

But what about Montana...?

I heard it as applying to New Zealand since sheep actually outnumber
people there IIRC.

http://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/agribusiness/sheep/the-ratio-of-person-t
o-sheep-in-new-zealand-has-dropped/news-story/1a6dbd5575198cb0e70ccb5c2b8
57f22
There used to be 20 sheep for every person in NZ.
Now the latest statistics from Beef and Lamb NZ show it has fallen to
about seven to one, or about 30 million sheep.
The sheep-to-person ratio is still higher than Australia’s, where there
are 74 million sheep to 23.5 million ?people — a ratio of three to one.

Baah!

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Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to Wales).

But what about Montana...?

I heard it as applying to New Zealand since sheep actually outnumber
people there IIRC.
--
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation
instinct are running screaming.

Ba!

[Pudentame]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

And the usual response in Scotland and in Wales is "The sheep lie!"

[The Doctor]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children
are FBI agents."

"And don't ask about the sheep."

The actual line there is "and sheep are nervous," but it is usually
used to refer to Scotland (except in Scotland, where it refers to
Wales).

And the usual response in Scotland and in Wales is "The sheep lie!"

Bah!

[The Doctor]

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Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

"The internet, where men are men, women are men, and children are FBI
agents."

Good one!!

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--
Terry Austin
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

[The Doctor]

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Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

Come on over to Facebook.

[RichA]

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Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

If women had the intellectual capacity of men, they'd write their own scifis instead of having to steal ones (taking parts) written by and for men.

[suzeeq]

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Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

If women had the intellectual capacity of men, they'd write their own scifis instead of having to steal ones (taking parts) written by and for men.

There are lots of scifi shows who have women writers, and a few written
entirely by women.

[Adam H. Kerman]

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Post by David Johnston
Or at least someone pretending to be a female Doctor Who fan.

If women had the intellectual capacity of men, they'd write their own scifis instead of having to steal ones (taking parts) written by and for men.

There are lots of scifi shows who have women writers, and a few written
entirely by women.

Verity Lambert was the producer and first show runner of Doctor Who.

[Agamemnon]

Post by The Doctor
Frankly, I don't think some people realize just how sadistic the Radical Left are! Those who sadly think they were born the wrong sex/gender don't realize that this is an scientific impossibility. And never mind about the gender role crap! Men can be stay at Dads and Women can be Nuclear Physicists. So that whole "gender role" thing is just a moronic smokescreen and a highly insulting one at that.
Now if you'll forgive me for sounding a bit insulting but there are those on the Radical Left with High IQ'S but no common sense (hence the term pinhead) who think of themselves as the "Intellectually elite" and those with lower IQ's who agree with that with which the stuck-up, pompous elite CHOOSES to share with them are regarded as "Useful Idiots". They're told just enough to be convinced that THEIR side is the correct side and that those who don't agree with them are evil, selfish, overly-judgemental, etc, etc ad nauseum! The usual B.S that makes gullible fools angry and eager to endorse whatever "Noble and Inclusive" B.S that the Elitists tell them will make them good and caring people BUT alas those "evil conservatives" who don't understand science (Never mind the one's whose IQ's are higher than even the stuck up elitist pricks) and "hate" those who are different, etc, etc, ad nauseum!
This is of course PURE BILE!! Conservatives do not hate those who are different (90% do not! as for the 10%? You can find that sort in ANY group!!) we actually feel sorry for them and actually want to help them. We see ourselves (which is what one should at least take into consideration when judging us. At least those who wish to do so fairly) as trying to throw a life-preserver to someone who is caught in a whirlpool that is slowly but surely sucking them in and downward at leisurely pace. Or throwing up road-blocks to try and stop someone from slowly driving over a cliff. And when we do we get yelled at, called names, laughed at, mocked and accused of being hateful. Yeah, because trying to save people is really a hateful thing to do. Again, you don't have to agree with our point of view BUT knock off with all the ignorant bile-spewing. Since Jan some on the left have become completely unhinged. It's at an all time low. How about everyone (especially those who came here to troll which is something only a socially maladjusted loser would do) try to see things from the moderates point of view. Radicals on either side are too far gone to be reasoned with. Both suffer from delusions of grandeur! And both know how to wind people who are somewhat on their side, to start behaving in a very inappropriate manner.
People who think they're the wrong sex need psychiatric help! Not some sick plastic surgery. And many feel just as depressed as they did before the operation. And it has NOTHING to with any religious or political group! That's what cowards and liars who want to score some cheap political points do. NO! The harsh cold reality is that THE PERSON THEMSELVES don't like what they've done because they know deep down inside that what they've done wasn't right. And so they change back. But whatever made them loathe themselves (there have been proven cases where some sick, psychotic mothers groomed their sons into being women.) so they change back. Still not happy so they change back yet again! And then some (40% of them!!!) end up committing suicide. And again, the Radical Left, like some demented bunch of sociopaths, blame those who oppose this type of operation and behavior when the reality is THEY'RE they ones who are to blame for not allowing these mentally ill people get the treatment they need! That like denying Cancer treatment to a cancer patient and then blaming conservatives when they die. THAT, my friends is the sick, azz-backwards and upside down world we live in today. SMH

Totally agree.

It's time the PC lunacy ended. People are sick and tired of it and it's
attempt to disguise racism, bigotry, and minority extremism and make out
that th

[The Doctor]

Post by The Doctor

Post by The Doctor
Frankly, I don't think some people realize just how sadistic the

Radical Left are! Those who sadly think they were born the wrong
sex/gender don't realize that this is an scientific impossibility. And
never mind about the gender role crap! Men can be stay at Dads and Women
can be Nuclear Physicists. So that whole "gender role" thing is just a
moronic smokescreen and a highly insulting one at that.

Post by The Doctor
Now if you'll forgive me for sounding a bit insulting but there are

those on the Radical Left with High IQ'S but no common sense (hence the
term pinhead) who think of themselves as the "Intellectually elite" and
those with lower IQ's who agree with that with which the stuck-up,
pompous elite CHOOSES to share with them are regarded as "Useful
Idiots". They're told just enough to be convinced that THEIR side is the
correct side and that those who don't agree with them are evil, selfish,
overly-judgemental, etc, etc ad nauseum! The usual B.S that makes
gullible fools angry and eager to endorse whatever "Noble and Inclusive"
B.S that the Elitists tell them will make them good and caring people
BUT alas those "evil conservatives" who don't understand science (Never
mind the one's whose IQ's are higher than even the stuck up elitist
pricks) and "hate" those who are different, etc, etc, ad nauseum!

Post by The Doctor
This is of course PURE BILE!! Conservatives do not hate those who are

different (90% do not! as for the 10%? You can find that sort in ANY
group!!) we actually feel sorry for them and actually want to help them.
We see ourselves (which is what one should at least take into
consideration when judging us. At least those who wish to do so fairly)
as trying to throw a life-preserver to someone who is caught in a
whirlpool that is slowly but surely sucking them in and downward at
leisurely pace. Or throwing up road-blocks to try and stop someone from
slowly driving over a cliff. And when we do we get yelled at, called
names, laughed at, mocked and accused of being hateful. Yeah, because
trying to save people is really a hateful thing to do. Again, you don't
have to agree with our point of view BUT knock off with all the ignorant
bile-spewing. Since Jan some on the left have become completely
unhinged. It's at an all time low. How about everyone (especially those
who came here to troll which is something only a socially maladjusted
loser would do) try to see things from the moderates point of view.
Radicals on either side are too far gone to be reasoned with. Both
suffer from delusions of grandeur! And both know how to wind people who
are somewhat on their side, to start behaving in a very inappropriate
manner.

Post by The Doctor
People who think they're the wrong sex need psychiatric help! Not some

sick plastic surgery. And many feel just as depressed as they did before
the operation. And it has NOTHING to with any religious or political
group! That's what cowards and liars who want to score some cheap
political points do. NO! The harsh cold reality is that THE PERSON
THEMSELVES don't like what they've done because they know deep down
inside that what they've done wasn't right. And so they change back. But
whatever made them loathe themselves (there have been proven cases where
some sick, psychotic mothers groomed their sons into being women.) so
they change back. Still not happy so they change back yet again! And
then some (40% of them!!!) end up committing suicide. And again, the
Radical Left, like some demented bunch of sociopaths, blame those who
oppose this type of operation and behavior when the reality is THEY'RE
they ones who are to blame for not allowing these mentally ill people
get the treatment they need! That like denying Cancer treatment to a
cancer patient and then blaming conservatives when they die. THAT, my
friends is the sick, azz-backwards and upside down world we live in
today. SMH
Totally agree.
It's time the PC lunacy ended. People are sick and tired of it and it's
attempt to disguise racism, bigotry, and minority extremism and make out
that this is something to aspire to. It isn't.

This is the sentiment to see off Chibnall and Whittaker!

Speak out now!!!

[The Last Doctor]

Post by The Doctor
Frankly, I don't think some people realize just how sadistic the Radical
Left are! Those who sadly think they were born the wrong sex/gender don't
realize that this is an scientific impossibility. And never mind about
the gender role crap! Men can be stay at Dads and Women can be Nuclear
Physicists. So that whole "gender role" thing is just a moronic
smokescreen and a highly insulting one at that.
Now if you'll forgive me for sounding a bit insulting but there are those
on the Radical Left with High IQ'S but no common sense (hence the term
pinhead) who think of themselves as the "Intellectually elite" and those
with lower IQ's who agree with that with which the stuck-up, pompous
elite CHOOSES to share with them are regarded as "Useful Idiots". They're
told just enough to be convinced that THEIR side is the correct side and
that those who don't agree with them are evil, selfish,
overly-judgemental, etc, etc ad nauseum! The usual B.S that makes
gullible fools angry and eager to endorse whatever "Noble and Inclusive"
B.S that the Elitists tell them will make them good and caring people BUT
alas those "evil conservatives" who don't understand science (Never mind
the one's whose IQ's are higher than even the stuck up elitist pricks)
and "hate" those who are different, etc, etc, ad nauseum!
This is of course PURE BILE!! Conservatives do not hate those who are
different (90% do not! as for the 10%? You can find that sort in ANY
group!!) we actually feel sorry for them and actually want to help them.
We see ourselves (which is what one should at least take into
consideration when judging us. At least those who wish to do so fairly)
as trying to throw a life-preserver to someone who is caught in a
whirlpool that is slowly but surely sucking them in and downward at
leisurely pace. Or throwing up road-blocks to try and stop someone from
slowly driving over a cliff. And when we do we get yelled at, called
names, laughed at, mocked and accused of being hateful. Yeah, because
trying to save people is really a hateful thing to do. Again, you don't
have to agree with our point of view BUT knock off with all the ignorant
bile-spewing. Since Jan some on the left have become completely unhinged.
It's at an all time low. How about everyone (especially those who came
here to troll which is something only a socially maladjusted loser would
do) try to see things from the moderates point of view. Radicals on
either side are too far gone to be reasoned with. Both suffer from
delusions of grandeur! And both know how to wind people who are somewhat
on their side, to start behaving in a very inappropriate manner.
People who think they're the wrong sex need psychiatric help! Not some
sick plastic surgery. And many feel just as depressed as they did before
the operation. And it has NOTHING to with any religious or political
group! That's what cowards and liars who want to score some cheap
political points do. NO! The harsh cold reality is that THE PERSON
THEMSELVES don't like what they've done because they know deep down
inside that what they've done wasn't right. And so they change back. But
whatever made them loathe themselves (there have been proven cases where
some sick, psychotic mothers groomed their sons into being women.) so
they change back. Still not happy so they change back yet again! And then
some (40% of them!!!) end up committing suicide. And again, the Radical
Left, like some demented bunch of sociopaths, blame those who oppose this
type of operation and behavior when the reality is THEY'RE they ones who
are to blame for not allowing these mentally ill people get the treatment
they need! That like denying Cancer treatment to a cancer patient and
then blaming conservatives when they die. THAT, my friends is the sick,
azz-backwards and upside down world we live in today. SMH

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn’t about Doctor Who. It was a bunch of
reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn’t understand a whole lot
about psychology and is railing against transgender gender reassignment.

Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to do with
Doctor Who.

An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard as
magical because it’s beyond our knowledge) to change their form, is
absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

[The Other Doctor]

<Let's not. Copied and pasted irrelevant rant snipped.>

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn't about Doctor Who. It was a bunch of
reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn't understand a whole lot
about psychology and is railing against transgender gender reassignment.
Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to do with
Doctor Who.
An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard as
magical because it's beyond our knowledge) to change their form, is
absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

So let me see if I've got this straight.

Both Yads and Agamemnon claim to be fans of Doctor Who. They are both quite
happy with the idea of an alien being travelling through time and space in a
ship that looks like a police box. They are both quite happy with the idea
that in just a few seconds he can completely alter his body - including
height, mass, hair colour, eye colour, etc. They're both quite happy with
the idea that human beings can turn into wolves (but only during a full
moon). They both got quite angry when the BBC cancelled Doctor Who in 1989.

Yet now that it's in production, they want to see it cancelled again.
Because it's not being done the way they think it should be done. They can't
cope with the lead being played by a woman. Despite not having seen a single
episode under Chibnall, they've already decided they hate him, all his
stories, and every member of the regular cast. Aggy thinks he could do a
better job - despite all the evidence that shows even an episode of
Teletubbies would be well beyond him. And Yads hangs on to his coattails.

Aggy wants a conservative show written in the same style as stories by Greek
writers from a couple of thousand years ago, featuring pretty young women he
can get excited over. Yads wants a conservative show written by Christian
fundamentalists. In fact they are the complete opposite of fans of Doctor
Who. There is nothing about the show that appears to appeal to them. Isn't
it about time they stopped claiming to be fans, stopped watching the show,
and found the sort of shows they might actually enjoy instead?

[The Doctor]

Post by The Other Doctor
<Let's not. Copied and pasted irrelevant rant snipped.>

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn't about Doctor Who. It was a bunch of
reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn't understand a whole lot
about psychology and is railing against transgender gender reassignment.
Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to do with
Doctor Who.
An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard as
magical because it's beyond our knowledge) to change their form, is
absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

So let me see if I've got this straight.
Both Yads and Agamemnon claim to be fans of Doctor Who. They are both quite
happy with the idea of an alien being travelling through time and space in a
ship that looks like a police box. They are both quite happy with the idea
that in just a few seconds he can completely alter his body - including
height, mass, hair colour, eye colour, etc. They're both quite happy with
the idea that human beings can turn into wolves (but only during a full
moon). They both got quite angry when the BBC cancelled Doctor Who in 1989.
Yet now that it's in production, they want to see it cancelled again.
Because it's not being done the way they think it should be done. They can't
cope with the lead being played by a woman. Despite not having seen a single
episode under Chibnall, they've already decided they hate him, all his
stories, and every member of the regular cast. Aggy thinks he could do a
better job - despite all the evidence that shows even an episode of
Teletubbies would be well beyond him. And Yads hangs on to his coattails.
Aggy wants a conservative show written in the same style as stories by Greek
writers from a couple of thousand years ago, featuring pretty young women he
can get excited over. Yads wants a conservative show written by Christian
fundamentalists. In fact they are the complete opposite of fans of Doctor
Who. There is nothing about the show that appears to appeal to them. Isn't
it about time they stopped claiming to be fans, stopped watching the show,
and found the sort of shows they might actually enjoy instead?

What a bunch of reality deniers Wilson, Idlehands and Mike are!

[Agamemnon]

Post by The Other Doctor
<Let's not. Copied and pasted irrelevant rant snipped.>

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn't about Doctor Who. It was a bunch
of reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn't understand a
whole lot about psychology and is railing against transgender
gender reassignment.
Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to
do with Doctor Who.
An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard
as magical because it's beyond our knowledge) to change their form,
is absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

So let me see if I've got this straight.
Both Yads and Agamemnon claim to be fans of Doctor Who. They are both
quite happy with the idea of an alien being travelling through time
and space in a ship that looks like a police box. They are both quite
happy with the idea that in just a few seconds he can completely
alter his body - including height, mass, hair colour, eye colour,
etc. They're both quite happy with the idea that human beings can
turn into wolves (but only during a full moon). They both got quite
angry when the BBC cancelled Doctor Who in 1989.

Shocked, not angry. But the way it was going they way it was going with
JNT totally ruining it they didn't have much of an alternative.

Post by The Other Doctor
Yet now that it's in production, they want to see it cancelled

The way it is being produced after being hijacked by extremist minority
interest groups and bigots who have alienated the majority of viewers it
is heading for the axe.

Post by The Other Doctor
again. Because it's not being done the way they think it should be
done.

It is not being done the way the majority of viewers think it should be
done.

Post by The Other Doctor
They can't cope with the lead being played by a woman. Despite

I can cope perfectly well with a women in the lead. See my treatment in
Jodie S11E01.

What I cannot abide is the way Moffat destroyed the show in the last 2
series and the way Chibnall is going to destroy it in the next.

Now is not the time for a female Doctor. Now is not the time for along
with that, divisive companions and the show being turned into The Sarah
Jane Adventures. Now is also not the time for a stupid costume that
could have come straight out of the failed JNT era--all that it's
missing is some question marks.

What is needed with the ratings at an all time low is a formula to bring
back viewers, not one which alienates and disenfranchises even more. For
that there must be a male Doctor and attractive female and male
companions who represent the majority of British society.

The remit of Doctor Who is for a British heterosexual audience not for
minority interest groups. Minorities should have their own specialist
programmes catering directly for them and produced by and staring people
from their community, and written by people fully cognizant and
conversant with that culture, as they have demanded time and time again
and which the racist BBC refuses to provide. Doctor Who is not there to
be hijacked by PC loonies as an alternative.

Post by The Other Doctor
not having seen a single episode under Chibnall, they've already
decided they hate him, all his stories, and every member of the

I don't need to see a single episode under Chibnall. I can still
remember Killercunt and his other feeble and immature contributions to
Torchwood and how much better it was when RTD retook possession of it.

Post by The Other Doctor
regular cast. Aggy thinks he could do a better job - despite all the
evidence that shows even an episode of Teletubbies would be well
beyond him. And Yads hangs on to his coattails.

I'm not writing an episode of Teletubbies and have no desire to. All the
evidence shows that my treatment for Series 11 was way superior to
Stephen Moffat's last two series, and that he even copied ideas from my
stories to use in Series 10, such as an Egyptian pyramid surround by
UNIT being used as the base for an alien invasion of Earth.

Post by The Other Doctor
Aggy wants a conservative show written in the same style as stories
by Greek writers from a couple of thousand years ago, featuring

I was not aware that Edgar Rice Burroughs, E. E. Smith, Isaac Asimov, or
Frank Herbert, who were my main influences directly or indirectly, were
either Greek or were popular two thousand years ago.

Post by The Other Doctor
pretty young women he can get excited over. Yads wants a conservative

That is what the majority of the viewers want as well, and stuff the
repressive sexist PC loonies.

Post by The Other Doctor
show written by Christian fundamentalists. In fact they are the
complete opposite of fans of Doctor Who. There is nothing about the

Wrong! We represent the true fans, not the sycophants who when given
shit to eat on a plat will say how delightful it was and honoured they
were to be given it.

Post by The Other Doctor
show that appears to appeal to them. Isn't it about time they stopped
claiming to be fans, stopped watching the show, and found the sort of
shows they might actually enjoy instead?

Ah, the new culture of Doctor Who. The producers don't give a toss about
attracting viewers to watch the show anymore. They're only making it for
themselves to proselytize their disgusting, repressive, loony left
political agenda, at license fee payers' expense.

We want Doctor Who to enjoy the way we enjoyed it in the past.

[Ed Stasiak]

Post by The Other Doctor
Agamemnon
Now is not the time for a female Doctor.

Let me preface this by saying I don’t watch Doctor Who, beyond some episodes
from the Tom Baker era that were rerun on public tv back in the 1970s but I’d also
say that a female Doctor should have happened years ago.

Regeneration is a part of the character, so there’s no reason why the Doctor couldn’t
be regenerated as a female and it’s my understanding the modern tv show is pretty
popular with girls, in addition to Jodie Whittaker being attractive and a good actress.

Now I’ll agree that feminism is being pushed into our faces nowadays but in this case,
I’d say its not an issue.

[anim8rfsk]

Post by The Other Doctor
Agamemnon
Now is not the time for a female Doctor.

Let me preface this by saying I don’t watch Doctor Who, beyond some episodes
from the Tom Baker era that were rerun on public tv back in the 1970s but I’d
also
say that a female Doctor should have happened years ago.
Regeneration is a part of the character, so there’s no reason why the Doctor
couldn’t
be regenerated as a female and it’s my understanding the modern tv show is
pretty
popular with girls, in addition to Jodie Whittaker being attractive and a good actress.
Now I’ll agree that feminism is being pushed into our faces nowadays but in
this case,
I’d say its not an issue.

The Doctors used to have 2 genders, Time Lords and Time Ladies.
Transexual regeneration is a recton that doesn't seem to be real
popular. I won't be watching, but I stopped during the last series,
because it was crap.

[Ed Stasiak]

anim8rfsk

Ed Stasiak
Regeneration is a part of the character, so there’s no reason why
the Doctor couldn’t be regenerated as a female

The Doctors used to have 2 genders, Time Lords and Time Ladies.

And their title would depend on which gender they regenerate as.

I don’t see this as a big deal, considering the setting and essentially
demigod nature of the character.

Transexual regeneration is a recton that doesn't seem to be real
popular.

*meh* You can escape the Daleeks by simply running up the stairs.

I won't be watching, but I stopped during the last series, because it
was crap.

I won’t be watching either but not because the new Doctor is a chick,
but because the show will no doubt beat the viewers over the head
with SJW clap-trap in every episode…

[anim8rfsk]

Post by Ed Stasiak

anim8rfsk

Ed Stasiak
Regeneration is a part of the character, so there’s no reason why
the Doctor couldn’t be regenerated as a female

The Doctors used to have 2 genders, Time Lords and Time Ladies.

And their title would depend on which gender they regenerate as.

No, they regenerated per their titles. There was no sex changing.

Post by Ed Stasiak
I don’t see this as a big deal, considering the setting and essentially
demigod nature of the character.

Transexual regeneration is a recton that doesn't seem to be real
popular.

*meh* You can escape the Daleeks by simply running up the stairs.

I won't be watching, but I stopped during the last series, because it
was crap.

I won’t be watching either but not because the new Doctor is a chick,
but because the show will no doubt beat the viewers over the head
with SJW clap-trap in every episode


[The Doctor]

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
<Let's not. Copied and pasted irrelevant rant snipped.>

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn't about Doctor Who. It was a bunch
of reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn't understand a
whole lot about psychology and is railing against transgender
gender reassignment.
Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to
do with Doctor Who.
An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard
as magical because it's beyond our knowledge) to change their form,
is absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

So let me see if I've got this straight.
Both Yads and Agamemnon claim to be fans of Doctor Who. They are both
quite happy with the idea of an alien being travelling through time
and space in a ship that looks like a police box. They are both quite
happy with the idea that in just a few seconds he can completely
alter his body - including height, mass, hair colour, eye colour,
etc. They're both quite happy with the idea that human beings can
turn into wolves (but only during a full moon). They both got quite
angry when the BBC cancelled Doctor Who in 1989.

Shocked, not angry. But the way it was going they way it was going with
JNT totally ruining it they didn't have much of an alternative.

Disgusted in my case so much that Chibnall Whittaker and the whole
immoral lot should be sacked.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
Yet now that it's in production, they want to see it cancelled

The way it is being produced after being hijacked by extremist minority
interest groups and bigots who have alienated the majority of viewers it
is heading for the axe.

Stop the axe, fire Chibnall!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
again. Because it's not being done the way they think it should be
done.

It is not being done the way the majority of viewers think it should be
done.

Even some homosexuals are angry!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
They can't cope with the lead being played by a woman. Despite

I can cope perfectly well with a women in the lead. See my treatment in
Jodie S11E01.
What I cannot abide is the way Moffat destroyed the show in the last 2
series and the way Chibnall is going to destroy it in the next.
Now is not the time for a female Doctor. Now is not the time for along
with that, divisive companions and the show being turned into The Sarah
Jane Adventures. Now is also not the time for a stupid costume that
could have come straight out of the failed JNT era--all that it's
missing is some question marks.
What is needed with the ratings at an all time low is a formula to bring
back viewers, not one which alienates and disenfranchises even more. For
that there must be a male Doctor and attractive female and male
companions who represent the majority of British society.
The remit of Doctor Who is for a British heterosexual audience not for
minority interest groups. Minorities should have their own specialist
programmes catering directly for them and produced by and staring people
from their community, and written by people fully cognizant and
conversant with that culture, as they have demanded time and time again
and which the racist BBC refuses to provide. Doctor Who is not there to
be hijacked by PC loonies as an alternative.

Did you not read the original post from a female poster Mike?

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
not having seen a single episode under Chibnall, they've already
decided they hate him, all his stories, and every member of the

I don't need to see a single episode under Chibnall. I can still
remember Killer*t and his other feeble and immature contributions to
Torchwood and how much better it was when RTD retook possession of it.

The most dreadful imagery is coming to mind.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
regular cast. Aggy thinks he could do a better job - despite all the
evidence that shows even an episode of Teletubbies would be well
beyond him. And Yads hangs on to his coattails.

I'm not writing an episode of Teletubbies and have no desire to. All the
evidence shows that my treatment for Series 11 was way superior to
Stephen Moffat's last two series, and that he even copied ideas from my
stories to use in Series 10, such as an Egyptian pyramid surround by
UNIT being used as the base for an alien invasion of Earth.

Chibnall is turning Doctor Who into BroadWho!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
Aggy wants a conservative show written in the same style as stories
by Greek writers from a couple of thousand years ago, featuring

I was not aware that Edgar Rice Burroughs, E. E. Smith, Isaac Asimov, or
Frank Herbert, who were my main influences directly or indirectly, were
either Greek or were popular two thousand years ago.

HA! HA!!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
pretty young women he can get excited over. Yads wants a conservative

That is what the majority of the viewers want as well, and stuff the
repressive sexist PC loonies.

Exactly! Stop living a sheltered life!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
show written by Christian fundamentalists. In fact they are the
complete opposite of fans of Doctor Who. There is nothing about the

Wrong! We represent the true fans, not the sycophants who when given
s*t to eat on a plat will say how delightful it was and honoured they
were to be given it.

More mad than glad!!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
show that appears to appeal to them. Isn't it about time they stopped
claiming to be fans, stopped watching the show, and found the sort of
shows they might actually enjoy instead?

Ah, the new culture of Doctor Who. The producers don't give a toss about
attracting viewers to watch the show anymore. They're only making it for
themselves to proselytize their disgusting, repressive, loony left
political agenda, at license fee payers' expense.
We want Doctor Who to enjoy the way we enjoyed it in the past.

Find the formula of sucess from 1963 to 1981!!

[Agamemnon]

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
<Let's not. Copied and pasted irrelevant rant snipped.>

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn't about Doctor Who. It was a bunch
of reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn't understand a
whole lot about psychology and is railing against transgender
gender reassignment.
Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to
do with Doctor Who.
An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard
as magical because it's beyond our knowledge) to change their form,
is absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

So let me see if I've got this straight.
Both Yads and Agamemnon claim to be fans of Doctor Who. They are both
quite happy with the idea of an alien being travelling through time
and space in a ship that looks like a police box. They are both quite
happy with the idea that in just a few seconds he can completely
alter his body - including height, mass, hair colour, eye colour,
etc. They're both quite happy with the idea that human beings can
turn into wolves (but only during a full moon). They both got quite
angry when the BBC cancelled Doctor Who in 1989.

Shocked, not angry. But the way it was going they way it was going with
JNT totally ruining it they didn't have much of an alternative.

Disgusted in my case so much that Chibnall Whittaker and the whole
immoral lot should be sacked.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
Yet now that it's in production, they want to see it cancelled

The way it is being produced after being hijacked by extremist minority
interest groups and bigots who have alienated the majority of viewers it
is heading for the axe.

Stop the axe, fire Chibnall!

That's the only way. Chibnall has totally lost the plot. He wants to
resurrect the JNT era with a woman and get the series killed off
completely.

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
again. Because it's not being done the way they think it should be
done.

It is not being done the way the majority of viewers think it should be
done.

Even some homosexuals are angry!

They've had enough of the negative repercussions.

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
They can't cope with the lead being played by a woman. Despite

I can cope perfectly well with a women in the lead. See my treatment in
Jodie S11E01.
What I cannot abide is the way Moffat destroyed the show in the last 2
series and the way Chibnall is going to destroy it in the next.
Now is not the time for a female Doctor. Now is not the time for along
with that, divisive companions and the show being turned into The Sarah
Jane Adventures. Now is also not the time for a stupid costume that
could have come straight out of the failed JNT era--all that it's
missing is some question marks.
What is needed with the ratings at an all time low is a formula to bring
back viewers, not one which alienates and disenfranchises even more. For
that there must be a male Doctor and attractive female and male
companions who represent the majority of British society.
The remit of Doctor Who is for a British heterosexual audience not for
minority interest groups. Minorities should have their own specialist
programmes catering directly for them and produced by and staring people
from their community, and written by people fully cognizant and
conversant with that culture, as they have demanded time and time again
and which the racist BBC refuses to provide. Doctor Who is not there to
be hijacked by PC loonies as an alternative.

Did you not read the original post from a female poster Mike?

It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
not having seen a single episode under Chibnall, they've already
decided they hate him, all his stories, and every member of the

I don't need to see a single episode under Chibnall. I can still
remember Killer*t and his other feeble and immature contributions to
Torchwood and how much better it was when RTD retook possession of it.

The most dreadful imagery is coming to mind.

And yet they chose this person who defiles women to produce Doctor Who
with a woman.

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
regular cast. Aggy thinks he could do a better job - despite all the
evidence that shows even an episode of Teletubbies would be well
beyond him. And Yads hangs on to his coattails.

I'm not writing an episode of Teletubbies and have no desire to. All the
evidence shows that my treatment for Series 11 was way superior to
Stephen Moffat's last two series, and that he even copied ideas from my
stories to use in Series 10, such as an Egyptian pyramid surround by
UNIT being used as the base for an alien invasion of Earth.

Chibnall is turning Doctor Who into BroadWho!

He better not.

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
Aggy wants a conservative show written in the same style as stories
by Greek writers from a couple of thousand years ago, featuring

I was not aware that Edgar Rice Burroughs, E. E. Smith, Isaac Asimov, or
Frank Herbert, who were my main influences directly or indirectly, were
either Greek or were popular two thousand years ago.

HA! HA!!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
pretty young women he can get excited over. Yads wants a conservative

That is what the majority of the viewers want as well, and stuff the
repressive sexist PC loonies.

Exactly! Stop living a sheltered life!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
show written by Christian fundamentalists. In fact they are the
complete opposite of fans of Doctor Who. There is nothing about the

Wrong! We represent the true fans, not the sycophants who when given
s*t to eat on a plat will say how delightful it was and honoured they
were to be given it.

More mad than glad!!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
show that appears to appeal to them. Isn't it about time they stopped
claiming to be fans, stopped watching the show, and found the sort of
shows they might actually enjoy instead?

Ah, the new culture of Doctor Who. The producers don't give a toss about
attracting viewers to watch the show anymore. They're only making it for
themselves to proselytize their disgusting, repressive, loony left
political agenda, at license fee payers' expense.
We want Doctor Who to enjoy the way we enjoyed it in the past.

Find the formula of sucess from 1963 to 1981!!

1981 was when the rot set in. You could tell by the stupid burgundy
costume they made Tom Baker wear. He said it was his favorite thing
about the JNT era, meaning the scripts were crap, and that's why he
decided to quit.

Now Chibnall is so far gone up JNT's arse that he's even making Jodie
wear Tom Baker's scarf across her bosom. Maybe he's sneaked the JNT
question-marks inside the trench coat interior. He's become totally
crazy with the power he's been given.

[The Doctor]

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
<Let's not. Copied and pasted irrelevant rant snipped.>

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn't about Doctor Who. It was a bunch
of reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn't understand a
whole lot about psychology and is railing against transgender
gender reassignment.
Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to
do with Doctor Who.
An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard
as magical because it's beyond our knowledge) to change their form,
is absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

So let me see if I've got this straight.
Both Yads and Agamemnon claim to be fans of Doctor Who. They are both
quite happy with the idea of an alien being travelling through time
and space in a ship that looks like a police box. They are both quite
happy with the idea that in just a few seconds he can completely
alter his body - including height, mass, hair colour, eye colour,
etc. They're both quite happy with the idea that human beings can
turn into wolves (but only during a full moon). They both got quite
angry when the BBC cancelled Doctor Who in 1989.

Shocked, not angry. But the way it was going they way it was going with
JNT totally ruining it they didn't have much of an alternative.

Disgusted in my case so much that Chibnall Whittaker and the whole
immoral lot should be sacked.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
Yet now that it's in production, they want to see it cancelled

The way it is being produced after being hijacked by extremist minority
interest groups and bigots who have alienated the majority of viewers it
is heading for the axe.

Stop the axe, fire Chibnall!

That's the only way. Chibnall has totally lost the plot. He wants to
resurrect the JNT era with a woman and get the series killed off
completely.

CHibnall represent the Immoral RTD. Stop this alltogether!

Time for a complete overhaull with someone
who knows why the show was popular from 1963 to 1981.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
again. Because it's not being done the way they think it should be
done.

It is not being done the way the majority of viewers think it should be
done.

Even some homosexuals are angry!

They've had enough of the negative repercussions.

And Chibnall adds fuel to this flame.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
They can't cope with the lead being played by a woman. Despite

I can cope perfectly well with a women in the lead. See my treatment in
Jodie S11E01.
What I cannot abide is the way Moffat destroyed the show in the last 2
series and the way Chibnall is going to destroy it in the next.
Now is not the time for a female Doctor. Now is not the time for along
with that, divisive companions and the show being turned into The Sarah
Jane Adventures. Now is also not the time for a stupid costume that
could have come straight out of the failed JNT era--all that it's
missing is some question marks.
What is needed with the ratings at an all time low is a formula to bring
back viewers, not one which alienates and disenfranchises even more. For
that there must be a male Doctor and attractive female and male
companions who represent the majority of British society.
The remit of Doctor Who is for a British heterosexual audience not for
minority interest groups. Minorities should have their own specialist
programmes catering directly for them and produced by and staring people
from their community, and written by people fully cognizant and
conversant with that culture, as they have demanded time and time again
and which the racist BBC refuses to provide. Doctor Who is not there to
be hijacked by PC loonies as an alternative.

Did you not read the original post from a female poster Mike?

It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
not having seen a single episode under Chibnall, they've already
decided they hate him, all his stories, and every member of the

I don't need to see a single episode under Chibnall. I can still
remember Killer*t and his other feeble and immature contributions to
Torchwood and how much better it was when RTD retook possession of it.

The most dreadful imagery is coming to mind.

And yet they chose this person who defiles women to produce Doctor Who
with a woman.

As proven in Torchwood.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
regular cast. Aggy thinks he could do a better job - despite all the
evidence that shows even an episode of Teletubbies would be well
beyond him. And Yads hangs on to his coattails.

I'm not writing an episode of Teletubbies and have no desire to. All the
evidence shows that my treatment for Series 11 was way superior to
Stephen Moffat's last two series, and that he even copied ideas from my
stories to use in Series 10, such as an Egyptian pyramid surround by
UNIT being used as the base for an alien invasion of Earth.

Chibnall is turning Doctor Who into BroadWho!

He better not.

That is the way he is going.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
Aggy wants a conservative show written in the same style as stories
by Greek writers from a couple of thousand years ago, featuring

I was not aware that Edgar Rice Burroughs, E. E. Smith, Isaac Asimov, or
Frank Herbert, who were my main influences directly or indirectly, were
either Greek or were popular two thousand years ago.

HA! HA!!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
pretty young women he can get excited over. Yads wants a conservative

That is what the majority of the viewers want as well, and stuff the
repressive sexist PC loonies.

Exactly! Stop living a sheltered life!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
show written by Christian fundamentalists. In fact they are the
complete opposite of fans of Doctor Who. There is nothing about the

Wrong! We represent the true fans, not the sycophants who when given
s*t to eat on a plat will say how delightful it was and honoured they
were to be given it.

More mad than glad!!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Other Doctor
show that appears to appeal to them. Isn't it about time they stopped
claiming to be fans, stopped watching the show, and found the sort of
shows they might actually enjoy instead?

Ah, the new culture of Doctor Who. The producers don't give a toss about
attracting viewers to watch the show anymore. They're only making it for
themselves to proselytize their disgusting, repressive, loony left
political agenda, at license fee payers' expense.
We want Doctor Who to enjoy the way we enjoyed it in the past.

Find the formula of sucess from 1963 to 1981!!

1981 was when the rot set in. You could tell by the stupid burgundy
costume they made Tom Baker wear. He said it was his favorite thing
about the JNT era, meaning the scripts were crap, and that's why he
decided to quit.

That 1980 when JN-T took over from Douglas Adams.

Post by Agamemnon
Now Chibnall is so far gone up JNT's arse that he's even making Jodie
wear Tom Baker's scarf across her bosom. Maybe he's sneaked the JNT
question-marks inside the trench coat interior. He's become totally
crazy with the power he's been given.

More like insane than crazy.

Have you ever visited Chiball's facebook page?

[The Last Doctor]

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that you described
as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and responded in
full.

That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.

It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.

As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.

Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.

So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

[Agamemnon]

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that you described
as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and responded in
full.
That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.

There was nothing ignorant about it at all. In fact it was very educated
and very well written.

Post by The Last Doctor
It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.

Wrong. It referred to the PC loony agenda and how their fail to
understand science and pretend to be the intellectual elite attempting
to brainwash the foolish and the ignorant, in the same manner as the
conmen who sold the Emperor his invisible birthday suit, by constantly
deriding everyone who saw the truth, and the idiots fell for it, which
is blatantly evident from watching their depraved version of Doctor Who

Post by The Last Doctor
As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.

Oh really. Wasn't there one in series 9? Even if it was a hermaphrodite
its clear that Doctor Who has been hijacked and enslaved to serve an
LGBT agenda. Just look at the lesbian companion last series. Sick! This
is supposed to be a family ENTERTAINMENT show and there is nothing
entertaining about the LGBT agenda especially when it's being imposed on
an overwhelmingly heterosexual audience.

Post by The Last Doctor
Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.

Bollocks. Some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender
just like Time Lords can and the mechanism has long been explained.
Protandrous/Protogynous hermaphrodites is what they are called.

That ability also makes the Doctor transgender.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21332-zoologger-transgender-fish-perform-reverse-sex-flip/

Post by The Last Doctor
So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

Wrong. The whole quote was totally relevant and exposed the PC loonies
and their tactics for what they really are, a form of brainwashing with
no scientific, or sociological reasoning or justification whatsoever.

[The Last Doctor]

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that you described
as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and responded in
full.
That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.

There was nothing ignorant about it at all. In fact it was very educated
and very well written.

That you think that says a lot about you that we already knew. It was bile
laden fact free vitriol, badly composed, incoherent and - wait, was it you
who wrote it?

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.

Wrong. It referred to the PC loony agenda and how their fail to
understand science and pretend to be the intellectual elite attempting
to brainwash the foolish and the ignorant, in the same manner as the
conmen who sold the Emperor his invisible birthday suit, by constantly
deriding everyone who saw the truth, and the idiots fell for it, which
is blatantly evident from watching their depraved version of Doctor Who

You and Dave are making this connection but it’s entirely in your heads.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.

Oh really. Wasn't there one in series 9? Even if it was a hermaphrodite

If you don’t know the difference between a transexual and a hermaphrodite,
you have no business spouting ignorant nonsense in this discussion at all.

[Bigoted homophobic rant snipped]

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.

Bollocks. Some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender
just like Time Lords can

Regenerating into entire new physiognomies? Really? On Earth? Don’t be such
a twat. Or maybe you feedlot believe this, in which case, again, you have
no business spouting your ignorant bollocks here. Go learn some basic
biology. GCSE should be enough.

Post by Agamemnon
That ability also makes the Doctor transgender.

Bullshit, as it’s not the same kind of transformation at all. Trying to
make it match makes you look like a bigger idiot than Dave.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

[False reactionary “refutation” snipped]

[Agamemnon]

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that you described
as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and responded in
full.
That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.

There was nothing ignorant about it at all. In fact it was very educated
and very well written.

That you think that says a lot about you that we already knew. It was bile
laden fact free vitriol, badly composed, incoherent and - wait, was it you
who wrote it?

You are totally deranged. You would be a useless literary critic. And no.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.

Wrong. It referred to the PC loony agenda and how their fail to
understand science and pretend to be the intellectual elite attempting
to brainwash the foolish and the ignorant, in the same manner as the
conmen who sold the Emperor his invisible birthday suit, by constantly
deriding everyone who saw the truth, and the idiots fell for it, which
is blatantly evident from watching their depraved version of Doctor Who

You and Dave are making this connection but it’s entirely in your heads.

You are so brainwashed that it's impossible for you to see that the
Emperor is completely naked.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.

Oh really. Wasn't there one in series 9? Even if it was a hermaphrodite

If you don’t know the difference between a transexual and a hermaphrodite,

It makes no difference when one tries to impersonate either a man or a
woman.

Post by The Last Doctor
you have no business spouting ignorant nonsense in this discussion at all.
[Bigoted homophobic rant snipped]

There was nothing bigoted not homophobic about it.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.

Bollocks. Some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender
just like Time Lords can

Regenerating into entire new physiognomies? Really? On Earth? Don’t be such
a twat. Or maybe you feedlot believe this, in which case, again, you have
no business spouting your ignorant bollocks here. Go learn some basic
biology. GCSE should be enough.

You are the one in need of a lesson in basic biology. As I said some
species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender just like Time
Lords can and the mechanism has long been explained.
Protandrous/Protogynous hermaphrodites is what they are called.

Other species are able to regenerate lost body parts.

Caterpillars are able to change their physicals froms into butterflies.

Put all of that together and what do you have?

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Post by Agamemnon
That ability also makes the Doctor transgender.

Bullshit, as it’s not the same kind of transformation at all. Trying to
make it match makes you look like a bigger idiot than Dave.

You clearly have no grasp of the English language. Since the Doctor has
changed sex that makes it transgender. Gender meaning sex and trans
meaning to move. Go figure.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

[False reactionary “refutation” snipped]

Scientifically reasoned refutation reinstated. The whole quote was
totally relevant and exposed the PC loonies and their tactics for what
they really are, a form of brainwashing with no scientific, or
sociological reasoning or justification whatsoever.

[The Last Doctor]

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that you described
as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and responded in
full.
That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.

There was nothing ignorant about it at all. In fact it was very educated
and very well written.

That you think that says a lot about you that we already knew. It was bile
laden fact free vitriol, badly composed, incoherent and - wait, was it you
who wrote it?

You are totally deranged.

No, that would be you.

Post by Agamemnon
You would be a useless literary critic.

My reviews have generally been well received, in magazines, by authors and
on this forum among other places. Which would seem to indicate that as a
literary critic, I’m far from useless. Not great though. You however filter
everything through your political agenda bias, making every critique you
deliver utterly worthless. Except to Dave, of course. Good old Dave. Where
would you be without him? Well, maybe be you can find a larger audience
among the gullible intellectually-challenged Biblical fundamentalist
demographic.

Post by Agamemnon
And no.

No desire to take credit for that pile of shit? Don’t blame you.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.

Wrong. It referred to the PC loony agenda and how their fail to
understand science and pretend to be the intellectual elite attempting
to brainwash the foolish and the ignorant, in the same manner as the
conmen who sold the Emperor his invisible birthday suit, by constantly
deriding everyone who saw the truth, and the idiots fell for it, which
is blatantly evident from watching their depraved version of Doctor Who

You and Dave are making this connection but it’s entirely in your heads.

You are so brainwashed that it's impossible for you to see that the
Emperor is completely naked.

What Emperor? You’re at Dave levels of intellectual cohesion again.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.

Oh really. Wasn't there one in series 9? Even if it was a hermaphrodite

If you don’t know the difference between a transexual and a hermaphrodite,

It makes no difference when one tries to impersonate either a man or a
woman.

Neither hermaphrodites or transexuals are trying to impersonate anything.
I’d ask what kind of idiot you are, but you seem to be aiming for the full
set.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
you have no business spouting ignorant nonsense in this discussion at all.
[Bigoted homophobic rant snipped]

There was nothing bigoted not homophobic about it.

Yes, there was.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.

Bollocks. Some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender
just like Time Lords can

Regenerating into entire new physiognomies? Really? On Earth? Don’t be such
a twat. Or maybe you feedlot believe this, in which case, again, you have
no business spouting your ignorant bollocks here. Go learn some basic
biology. GCSE should be enough.

You are the one in need of a lesson in basic biology. As I said some
species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender just like Time
Lords can

“Just like Time Lords can”. Please show use of regeneration energy, the
apparent existence of a cycle of twelve regenerations, and the ability to
change to an entirely different phenotype expression then, I n any one of
these species. Go ahead, PROVE this equivalence instead of making shit up.

Post by Agamemnon
You clearly have no grasp of the English language. Since the Doctor has
changed sex that makes it transgender.

Incorrect. No transgender person has actually yet changed sex other than
legally. Maybe one day. Idiot.

Timelords, using their fictional process of regeneration, can do that, or
so it would appear. We have no idea what the underlying TIMELORD DNA looks
like of if it changes in regeneration, even one that makes the Timelord
appear to change gender in their humanlike appearance.

It bears no relationship or comparison to human gender reassignment. You
really are stupider than Dave, aren’t you?


Gender meaning sex and trans

Post by Agamemnon
meaning to move. Go figure.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

[False reactionary “refutation” snipped]

Scientifically reasoned refutation reinstated. The whole quote was
totally relevant and exposed the PC loonies and their tactics for what
they really are, a form of brainwashing with no scientific, or
sociological reasoning or justification whatsoever.

“Scientifically reasoned”? This from someone who sees no difference between
a hermaphrodite, a transexual, and John Cleese in a dress? LOL.

[Agamemnon]

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that you described
as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and responded in
full.
That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.

There was nothing ignorant about it at all. In fact it was very educated
and very well written.

That you think that says a lot about you that we already knew. It was bile
laden fact free vitriol, badly composed, incoherent and - wait, was it you
who wrote it?

You are totally deranged.

No, that would be you.

You are deluded as well as deranged.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
You would be a useless literary critic.

My reviews have generally been well received, in magazines, by authors and
on this forum among other places. Which would seem to indicate that as a
literary critic, I’m far from useless. Not great though. You however filter

The job of a critic is to descriptive what they are reviewing is
literally like. Your reviews would fail to do that, given you are
suffering from Emperor's New Clothes syndrome.

Post by The Last Doctor
everything through your political agenda bias, making every critique you

You mean I tell it like it is.

Post by The Last Doctor
deliver utterly worthless. Except to Dave, of course. Good old Dave. Where

No. Making everything I write a true reflective of what I am describing.
If a movie or an episode of a TV series is shit I say it's shit. If I
see a piece of modern art the looks like it was painted by a monkey then
I say it could have been painted by a monkey.

Post by The Last Doctor
would you be without him? Well, maybe be you can find a larger audience
among the gullible intellectually-challenged Biblical fundamentalist
demographic.

You are deranged.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
And no.

No desire to take credit for that pile of shit? Don’t blame you.

It was nothing of the kind. It was an intellectually enlightened and
scientifically based article.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.

Wrong. It referred to the PC loony agenda and how their fail to
understand science and pretend to be the intellectual elite attempting
to brainwash the foolish and the ignorant, in the same manner as the
conmen who sold the Emperor his invisible birthday suit, by constantly
deriding everyone who saw the truth, and the idiots fell for it, which
is blatantly evident from watching their depraved version of Doctor Who

You and Dave are making this connection but it’s entirely in your heads.

You are so brainwashed that it's impossible for you to see that the
Emperor is completely naked.

What Emperor? You’re at Dave levels of intellectual cohesion again.

The Emperor that fell for the scam of the invisible birthday suit.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.

Oh really. Wasn't there one in series 9? Even if it was a hermaphrodite

If you don’t know the difference between a transexual and a hermaphrodite,

It makes no difference when one tries to impersonate either a man or a
woman.

Neither hermaphrodites or transexuals are trying to impersonate anything.

They are if they dress as someone of a sex they were not born with.

Post by The Last Doctor
I’d ask what kind of idiot you are, but you seem to be aiming for the full
set.

More evidence of your derangement.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
you have no business spouting ignorant nonsense in this discussion at all.
[Bigoted homophobic rant snipped]

There was nothing bigoted not homophobic about it.

Yes, there was.

No there was not!

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.

Bollocks. Some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender
just like Time Lords can

Regenerating into entire new physiognomies? Really? On Earth? Don’t be such
a twat. Or maybe you feedlot believe this, in which case, again, you have
no business spouting your ignorant bollocks here. Go learn some basic
biology. GCSE should be enough.

You are the one in need of a lesson in basic biology. As I said some
species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender just like Time
Lords can

“Just like Time Lords can”. Please show use of regeneration energy, the
apparent existence of a cycle of twelve regenerations, and the ability to
change to an entirely different phenotype expression then, I n any one of
these species. Go ahead, PROVE this equivalence instead of making shit up.

You show again that you still do not understand English.

I said nothing about the exact mechanism, limit or energy requirement.
The fact stands that some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change
their gender and so can Time Lords.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
You clearly have no grasp of the English language. Since the Doctor has
changed sex that makes it transgender.

Incorrect. No transgender person has actually yet changed sex other than
legally. Maybe one day. Idiot.

Let me explain the term transgender to you again. Gender meaning sex and
trans meaning to move across. Go figure.

Post by The Last Doctor
Timelords, using their fictional process of regeneration, can do that, or
so it would appear. We have no idea what the underlying TIMELORD DNA looks
like of if it changes in regeneration, even one that makes the Timelord
appear to change gender in their humanlike appearance.

Transgender = changed sex

Post by The Last Doctor
It bears no relationship or comparison to human gender reassignment. You
really are stupider than Dave, aren’t you?

You are a complete and utter fool.

Post by The Last Doctor
Gender meaning sex and trans

Post by Agamemnon
meaning to move. Go figure.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

[False reactionary “refutation” snipped]

Scientifically reasoned refutation reinstated. The whole quote was
totally relevant and exposed the PC loonies and their tactics for what
they really are, a form of brainwashing with no scientific, or
sociological reasoning or justification whatsoever.

“Scientifically reasoned”? This from someone who sees no difference between
a hermaphrodite, a transexual, and John Cleese in a dress? LOL.

A hermaphrodite can decide to act as whatever sex it wants. A
transsexual decides to do the same thing but does not have the required
genitalia.

[The Doctor]

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that

you described

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and

responded in

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

full.
That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.

There was nothing ignorant about it at all. In fact it was very educated
and very well written.

That you think that says a lot about you that we already knew. It was bile
laden fact free vitriol, badly composed, incoherent and - wait, was it you
who wrote it?

You are totally deranged.

No, that would be you.

You are deluded as well as deranged.

Looks like a Chibnall apologist to me.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
You would be a useless literary critic.

My reviews have generally been well received, in magazines, by authors and
on this forum among other places. Which would seem to indicate that as a
literary critic, I’m far from useless. Not great though. You however filter

The job of a critic is to descriptive what they are reviewing is
literally like. Your reviews would fail to do that, given you are
suffering from Emperor's New Clothes syndrome.

Definitely.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor
everything through your political agenda bias, making every critique you

You mean I tell it like it is.

Hear! Hear!!

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor
deliver utterly worthless. Except to Dave, of course. Good old Dave. Where

No. Making everything I write a true reflective of what I am describing.
If a movie or an episode of a TV series is s*t I say it's s*t. If I
see a piece of modern art the looks like it was painted by a monkey then
I say it could have been painted by a monkey.

Good one!

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor
would you be without him? Well, maybe be you can find a larger audience
among the gullible intellectually-challenged Biblical fundamentalist
demographic.

You are deranged.

SW is worts. STill ...

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
And no.

No desire to take credit for that pile of s*t? Don’t blame you.

It was nothing of the kind. It was an intellectually enlightened and
scientifically based article.

Hear!! Hear!!

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.

Wrong. It referred to the PC loony agenda and how their fail to
understand science and pretend to be the intellectual elite attempting
to brainwash the foolish and the ignorant, in the same manner as the
conmen who sold the Emperor his invisible birthday suit, by constantly
deriding everyone who saw the truth, and the idiots fell for it, which
is blatantly evident from watching their depraved version of Doctor Who

You and Dave are making this connection but it’s entirely in your heads.

You are so brainwashed that it's impossible for you to see that the
Emperor is completely naked.

What Emperor? You’re at Dave levels of intellectual cohesion again.

The Emperor that fell for the scam of the invisible birthday suit.

Does Mike get the analogy?

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.

Oh really. Wasn't there one in series 9? Even if it was a hermaphrodite

If you don’t know the difference between a transexual and a hermaphrodite,

It makes no difference when one tries to impersonate either a man or a
woman.

Neither hermaphrodites or transexuals are trying to impersonate anything.

They are if they dress as someone of a sex they were not born with.

Exactly

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor
I’d ask what kind of idiot you are, but you seem to be aiming for the full
set.

More evidence of your derangement.

Sad about Mike.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
you have no business spouting ignorant nonsense in this discussion at all.
[Bigoted homophobic rant snipped]

There was nothing bigoted not homophobic about it.

Yes, there was.

No there was not!

Correct you are AGA.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.

Bollocks. Some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender
just like Time Lords can

Regenerating into entire new physiognomies? Really? On Earth?

Don’t be such

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
a twat. Or maybe you feedlot believe this, in which case, again, you have
no business spouting your ignorant bollocks here. Go learn some basic
biology. GCSE should be enough.

You are the one in need of a lesson in basic biology. As I said some
species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender just like Time
Lords can

“Just like Time Lords can”. Please show use of regeneration energy, the
apparent existence of a cycle of twelve regenerations, and the ability to
change to an entirely different phenotype expression then, I n any one of
these species. Go ahead, PROVE this equivalence instead of making s*t up.

You show again that you still do not understand English.
I said nothing about the exact mechanism, limit or energy requirement.
The fact stands that some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change
their gender and so can Time Lords.

All right.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
You clearly have no grasp of the English language. Since the Doctor has
changed sex that makes it transgender.

Incorrect. No transgender person has actually yet changed sex other than
legally. Maybe one day. Idiot.

Let me explain the term transgender to you again. Gender meaning sex and
trans meaning to move across. Go figure.

I got you.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor
Timelords, using their fictional process of regeneration, can do that, or
so it would appear. We have no idea what the underlying TIMELORD DNA looks
like of if it changes in regeneration, even one that makes the Timelord
appear to change gender in their humanlike appearance.

Transgender = changed sex

Post by The Last Doctor
It bears no relationship or comparison to human gender reassignment. You
really are stupider than Dave, aren’t you?

You are a complete and utter fool.

Sad from Mike yet again.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor
Gender meaning sex and trans

Post by Agamemnon
meaning to move. Go figure.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

[False reactionary “refutation” snipped]

Scientifically reasoned refutation reinstated. The whole quote was
totally relevant and exposed the PC loonies and their tactics for what
they really are, a form of brainwashing with no scientific, or
sociological reasoning or justification whatsoever.

“Scientifically reasoned”? This from someone who sees no

difference between

Post by The Last Doctor
a hermaphrodite, a transexual, and John Cleese in a dress? LOL.

A hermaphrodite can decide to act as whatever sex it wants. A
transsexual decides to do the same thing but does not have the required
genitalia.

ANd no I do not apologise for being the Original POSter.

[The Last Doctor]

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
You are totally deranged.

No, that would be you.

You are deluded as well as deranged.

No, that would DEFINITELY be you.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
You would be a useless literary critic.

My reviews have generally been well received, in magazines, by authors and
on this forum among other places. Which would seem to indicate that as a
literary critic, I’m far from useless. Not great though. You however filter

The job of a critic is to descriptive what they are reviewing is
literally like.

The construction of the above sentence, using “descriptive” instead of
“describe”, then poorly using “what” for the subject and also the object
(you needed to use “what what”, or choose better words) demonstrates how
you would never make either a writer or a critic.

The job of a critic is to give enough information about the subject of the
criticism for the reader to decide whether they want to invest their time
in reading, listening to, viewing or participating in the subject. A
critical article should also convey the reviewer’s opinion on the subject,
with justification for that opinion. The reader can then make an informed
decision based on the information given as well as in whether they usually
agree or disagree with the reviewer’s perspective. I learn as much from
good reviews by critics who don’t share my tastes as from those by critics
who do.

Post by Agamemnon
Your reviews would fail to do that, given you are
suffering from Emperor's New Clothes syndrome.

Nonsensical argument from you, as you can’t point to something that does
not exist that I am being persuaded to agree with even though I can’t see
it. This simply isn’t the case.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
everything through your political agenda bias, making every critique you

You mean I tell it like it is.

You tell it like the fundamentalist right wing idiots see it. That is
everyone who agrees with you, as far as we can see here.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
deliver utterly worthless. Except to Dave, of course. Good old Dave. Where

No. Making everything I write a true reflective of what I am describing.

A true reflective? Learn ENGLISH.

Post by Agamemnon
If a movie or an episode of a TV series is shit I say it's shit.

No. If your opinion is that something is shit, you claim that as
indisputable truth. Not the same. Some things may be shot to you but not to
others. You never come across as recognising that.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
Good old Dave. Where would you be without him? Well, maybe be you can
find a larger audience
among the gullible intellectually-challenged Biblical fundamentalist
demographic.

You are deranged.

Fair shout. Your audience and constituency is Dave and Dave alone, it was
deranged of me to think that even other gullible intellectually-challenged
Biblical fundamentalists would agree with you.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
And no.

No desire to take credit for that pile of shit? Don’t blame you.

It was nothing of the kind. It was an intellectually enlightened and
scientifically based article.

Aw bless. Two coherent sentences in a row. Pity they are entirely incorrect
in their content.

Post by Agamemnon

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Post by Agamemnon
You are so brainwashed that it's impossible for you to see that the
Emperor is completely naked.

What Emperor? You’re at Dave levels of intellectual cohesion again.

The Emperor that fell for the scam of the invisible birthday suit.

Yes. I know the fairy tale. It is the thing you’re trying to apply it to
that you’ve never made clear.

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As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.

Oh really. Wasn't there one in series 9? Even if it was a hermaphrodite

If you don’t know the difference between a transexual and a hermaphrodite,

It makes no difference when one tries to impersonate either a man or a
woman.

Neither hermaphrodites or transexuals are trying to impersonate anything.

They are if they dress as someone of a sex they were not born with.

So you’re indeed trying to be every kind of idiot. Thanks for clarifying.
At least that’s one ambition within your reach (unlike scriptwriter, critic
or rational disputant.)

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you have no business spouting ignorant nonsense in this discussion at all.
[Bigoted homophobic rant snipped]

There was nothing bigoted not homophobic about it.

Yes, there was.

No there was not!

It was utterly so. Only your wilful blindness to anything other than
“alternative facts” and your ground in conservatism prevent you from seeing
it.

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Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.

Bollocks. Some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender
just like Time Lords can

Regenerating into entire new physiognomies? Really? On Earth? Don’t be such
a twat. Or maybe you feedlot believe this, in which case, again, you have
no business spouting your ignorant bollocks here. Go learn some basic
biology. GCSE should be enough.

You are the one in need of a lesson in basic biology. As I said some
species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender just like Time
Lords can

“Just like Time Lords can”. Please show use of regeneration energy, the
apparent existence of a cycle of twelve regenerations, and the ability to
change to an entirely different phenotype expression then, I n any one of
these species. Go ahead, PROVE this equivalence instead of making shit up.

You show again that you still do not understand English.
I said nothing about the exact mechanism, limit or energy requirement.

No, you show that you don’t understand the English you attempt to employ.
Your statement “some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their
gender just like Time Lords can” uses the construction “just like” which,
in English, explicitly means that you believe that the mechanisms are
strictly comparable, if not the same.

If you didn’t mean that similar mechanisms, which you could show to be
“just like” each other, were in play, then in English you would not use the
phrase “just like”. You’d use the phrase “a completely different way from
how”. Which would be accurate, of course, and would carry the correct
implication that they have fuck all to do with each other and that your
argument is specious. Which is why you tried to backtrack and claim
something different while STILL hoping to sustain your patently ridiculous
position.

Admit defeat graciously and back away from your broken bullshit argument.

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Let me explain the term transgender to you again. Gender meaning sex and
trans meaning to move across. Go figure.

Modern English words do not have the precise meaning of their root
elements. We don’t watch TV shows on a farsight. Try using modern English
dictionary definitions and the meanings the general public give to words.
You’ll sound like a bit less of an idiot.

Only a bit, though.

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It bears no relationship or comparison to human gender reassignment. You
really are stupider than Dave, aren’t you?

You are a complete and utter fool.

I’m prepared to go as far as “only as stupid as Dave” if that makes you
feel better.

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“Scientifically reasoned”? This from someone who sees no difference between
a hermaphrodite, a transexual, and John Cleese in a dress? LOL.

A hermaphrodite can decide to act as whatever sex it wants. A
transsexual decides to do the same thing but does not have the required
genitalia.

Do you want a spade to help you dig even deeper into that hole?

[Agamemnon]

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You are totally deranged.

No, that would be you.

You are deluded as well as deranged.

No, that would DEFINITELY be you.

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You would be a useless literary critic.

My reviews have generally been well received, in magazines, by authors and
on this forum among other places. Which would seem to indicate that as a
literary critic, I’m far from useless. Not great though. You however filter

The job of a critic is to descriptive what they are reviewing is
literally like.

The construction of the above sentence, using “descriptive” instead of
“describe”, then poorly using “what” for the subject and also the object
(you needed to use “what what”, or choose better words) demonstrates how
you would never make either a writer or a critic.

No. It demonstrates how totally useless spellcheckers are. "Descriptive"
should have been corrected to "describe" and "what what" got deleted
along the way for some reason or other, probably because I was
correcting what I thought were errors rather than actually reading if
still made sense afterward.

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The job of a critic is to give enough information about the subject of the
criticism for the reader to decide whether they want to invest their time
in reading, listening to, viewing or participating in the subject. A
critical article should also convey the reviewer’s opinion on the subject,
with justification for that opinion. The reader can then make an informed
decision based on the information given as well as in whether they usually
agree or disagree with the reviewer’s perspective. I learn as much from
good reviews by critics who don’t share my tastes as from those by critics
who do.

Unfortunately most so-called professional reviewers fail to grasp that.
What you want to know when you buy something like a piece of computer
hardware, mobile phone, TV, or a car, is if it's reliable, and what
issues it might have. You're better off reading what's written by people
who have bought something on Amazon than the so-called reviews written
by the morons writing for magazines who just copy the crap sent to them
about the manufacturer and say how beautiful it looks and oh looks it's
got a bigger screen than last year's model.

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Your reviews would fail to do that, given you are
suffering from Emperor's New Clothes syndrome.

Nonsensical argument from you, as you can’t point to something that does
not exist that I am being persuaded to agree with even though I can’t see
it. This simply isn’t the case.

You see the Emperor wearing clothes when he is stark naked.

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everything through your political agenda bias, making every critique you

You mean I tell it like it is.

You tell it like the fundamentalist right wing idiots see it. That is
everyone who agrees with you, as far as we can see here.

I am a conservative centrist. I sit in the middle ground.

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deliver utterly worthless. Except to Dave, of course. Good old Dave. Where

No. Making everything I write a true reflective of what I am describing.

A true reflective? Learn ENGLISH.

Reflection. Learn to interpolate.

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If a movie or an episode of a TV series is shit I say it's shit.

No. If your opinion is that something is shit, you claim that as
indisputable truth. Not the same. Some things may be shot to you but not to
others. You never come across as recognising that.

"shot"? You means shit. If's it's shit I say it's shit, because shit is
what it is. I don't try to disguise the fact.

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Good old Dave. Where would you be without him? Well, maybe be you can
find a larger audience
among the gullible intellectually-challenged Biblical fundamentalist
demographic.

You are deranged.

Fair shout. Your audience and constituency is Dave and Dave alone, it was
deranged of me to think that even other gullible intellectually-challenged
Biblical fundamentalists would agree with you.

Biblical fundamentalists? I don't believe in Yad's evangelical and
heretical falsification of Christianity. I'm an Orthodox Christian.

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And no.

No desire to take credit for that pile of shit? Don’t blame you.

It was nothing of the kind. It was an intellectually enlightened and
scientifically based article.

Aw bless. Two coherent sentences in a row. Pity they are entirely incorrect
in their content.

You are deluded.

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You are so brainwashed that it's impossible for you to see that the
Emperor is completely naked.

What Emperor? You’re at Dave levels of intellectual cohesion again.

The Emperor that fell for the scam of the invisible birthday suit.

Yes. I know the fairy tale. It is the thing you’re trying to apply it to
that you’ve never made clear.

I made it perfectly clear.

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As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.

Oh really. Wasn't there one in series 9? Even if it was a hermaphrodite

If you don’t know the difference between a transexual and a hermaphrodite,

It makes no difference when one tries to impersonate either a man or a
woman.

Neither hermaphrodites or transexuals are trying to impersonate anything.

They are if they dress as someone of a sex they were not born with.

So you’re indeed trying to be every kind of idiot. Thanks for clarifying.
At least that’s one ambition within your reach (unlike scriptwriter, critic
or rational disputant.)

You are a fool. I don't subscribe to you deranged loony left agenda. A
human with is born a boy is always a boy. Letting them impersonate a
girl and encouraging them in that fantasy only serves to prolong their
mental illness.

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you have no business spouting ignorant nonsense in this discussion at all.
[Bigoted homophobic rant snipped]

There was nothing bigoted not homophobic about it.

Yes, there was.

No there was not!

It was utterly so. Only your wilful blindness to anything other than
“alternative facts” and your ground in conservatism prevent you from seeing
it.

There was nothing bigoted nor homophobic about it at all. Only your
loony left extremism makes you think the contrary.

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You show again that you still do not understand English.
I said nothing about the exact mechanism, limit or energy requirement.

No, you show that you don’t understand the English you attempt to employ.
Your statement “some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their
gender just like Time Lords can” uses the construction “just like” which,
in English, explicitly means that you believe that the mechanisms are
strictly comparable, if not the same.

No it doesn't. The subject of the sentence is changing gender, therefore
just like implies that these Time Lords can change gender too.

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If you didn’t mean that similar mechanisms, which you could show to be
“just like” each other, were in play, then in English you would not use the
phrase “just like”. You’d use the phrase “a completely different way from
how”. Which would be accurate, of course, and would carry the correct
implication that they have fuck all to do with each other and that your
argument is specious. Which is why you tried to backtrack and claim
something different while STILL hoping to sustain your patently ridiculous
position.

You are totally and utterly deranged.

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Admit defeat graciously and back away from your broken bullshit argument.

You need to admit defeat.

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Let me explain the term transgender to you again. Gender meaning sex and
trans meaning to move across. Go figure.

Modern English words do not have the precise meaning of their root
elements.

Yes they do. You just don't understand them.

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We don’t watch TV shows on a farsight. Try using modern English

Television is a made up Greek-Latin word.

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dictionary definitions and the meanings the general public give to words.

The ignorant clueless general public. No. I know what words mean. I
idiots dictate their misunderstanding of their true meanings to me.

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You’ll sound like a bit less of an idiot.
Only a bit, though.

You are the idiot here.

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It bears no relationship or comparison to human gender reassignment. You
really are stupider than Dave, aren’t you?

You are a complete and utter fool.

I’m prepared to go as far as “only as stupid as Dave” if that makes you
feel better.

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“Scientifically reasoned”? This from someone who sees no difference between
a hermaphrodite, a transexual, and John Cleese in a dress? LOL.

A hermaphrodite can decide to act as whatever sex it wants. A
transsexual decides to do the same thing but does not have the required
genitalia.

Do you want a spade to help you dig even deeper into that hole?

You are a clueless fool.

[Dimensional Traveler]

Will the two of you please go get a motel room and stop annoying the
rest of us?

[The Doctor]

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Will the two of you please go get a motel room and stop annoying the
rest of us?

No thnk you!

This is what the thread is for.

Post by Dimensional Traveler
--
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation
instinct are running screaming.

[The Last Doctor]

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Will the two of you please go get a motel room and stop annoying the
rest of us?

I’m done. He’s reduced to nothing but insults and spluttering attempts to
justify his madness. Killfiling him again now.

[Agamemnon]

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Will the two of you please go get a motel room and stop annoying the
rest of us?

I’m done. He’s reduced to nothing but insults and spluttering attempts to
justify his madness. Killfiling him again now.

The liar here is you. Every sane person know you can't justify any of
your loony left arguments with logic and reason.

[The Doctor]

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Will the two of you please go get a motel room and stop annoying the
rest of us?

I’m done. He’s reduced to nothing but insults and spluttering attempts to
justify his madness. Killfiling him again now.

The liar here is you. Every sane person know you can't justify any of
your loony left arguments with logic and reason.

Mike just ran away.

[The Last Doctor]

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Will the two of you please go get a motel room and stop annoying the
rest of us?

I’m done. He’s reduced to nothing but insults and spluttering attempts to
justify his madness. Killfiling him again now.

The liar here is you. Every sane person know you can't justify any of
your loony left arguments with logic and reason.

Mike just ran away.

No, I’m still here. But having totally annihilated Ag’s insanity in
everyone’s eyes except yours and his, there’s no point in carrying on.

For example see above, where he calls me a liar as though I accused him of
that. I didn’t. Delusion isn’t intended deception.

His persistent categorisation of anyone with even moderate intelligence and
superior empathy to him as “loony left” and his inability to recognise
logic or reason don’t help him either.

So I’m ignoring him. His obsessions do not deserve the validation of
arguing against.

[Dimensional Traveler]

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Will the two of you please go get a motel room and stop annoying the
rest of us?

I’m done. He’s reduced to nothing but insults and spluttering attempts to
justify his madness. Killfiling him again now.

The liar here is you. Every sane person know you can't justify any of
your loony left arguments with logic and reason.

Mike just ran away.

No, I’m still here. But having totally annihilated Ag’s insanity in
everyone’s eyes except yours and his, there’s no point in carrying on.
For example see above, where he calls me a liar as though I accused him of
that. I didn’t. Delusion isn’t intended deception.
His persistent categorisation of anyone with even moderate intelligence and
superior empathy to him as “loony left” and his inability to recognise
logic or reason don’t help him either.
So I’m ignoring him. His obsessions do not deserve the validation of
arguing against.

*PLONK*

[Agamemnon]

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Will the two of you please go get a motel room and stop annoying the
rest of us?

I’m done. He’s reduced to nothing but insults and spluttering attempts to
justify his madness. Killfiling him again now.

The liar here is you. Every sane person know you can't justify any of
your loony left arguments with logic and reason.

Mike just ran away.

No, I’m still here. But having totally annihilated Ag’s insanity in
everyone’s eyes except yours and his, there’s no point in carrying on.

The only person insane here is you.

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For example see above, where he calls me a liar as though I accused him of
that. I didn’t. Delusion isn’t intended deception.

You are the one who is deluded. The PC brainwashing has turned your mind
into mush.

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His persistent categorisation of anyone with even moderate intelligence and
superior empathy to him as “loony left” and his inability to recognise
logic or reason don’t help him either.

As was exposed by the original female wirier it is the PC loony left
that suffer from the inability to recognise logic or reason.

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So I’m ignoring him. His obsessions do not deserve the validation of
arguing against.

You are deranged. It's not too later to throw off your conditioning and
see the truth.

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 11/14/2017 11:10 AM, Agamemnon wrote:

*PLONK*

[The Doctor]

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Will the two of you please go get a motel room and stop annoying the
rest of us?

I’m done. He’s reduced to nothing but insults and spluttering attempts to
justify his madness. Killfiling him again now.

Well I might just follow up on Agamemnon more often.

[Doc O'Leary]

For your reference, records indicate that

Post by Dimensional Traveler
Will the two of you please go get a motel room and stop annoying the
rest of us?

Just killfile them and enjoy the quiet.

[Your Name]

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For your reference, records indicate that

Post by Dimensional Traveler
Will the two of you please go get a motel room and stop annoying the
rest of us?

Just killfile them and enjoy the quiet.

Just killfile the Doctor Who newsgroups and messages ... the show has
now been turned into unwatchable crap anyway.

[The Doctor]

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You are totally deranged.

No, that would be you.

You are deluded as well as deranged.

No, that would DEFINITELY be you.

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You would be a useless literary critic.

My reviews have generally been well received, in magazines, by authors and
on this forum among other places. Which would seem to indicate that as a
literary critic, I’m far from useless. Not great though. You

however filter

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The job of a critic is to descriptive what they are reviewing is
literally like.

The construction of the above sentence, using “descriptive” instead of
“describe”, then poorly using “what” for the subject and also

the object

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(you needed to use “what what”, or choose better words) demonstrates how
you would never make either a writer or a critic.

No. It demonstrates how totally useless spellcheckers are. "Descriptive"
should have been corrected to "describe" and "what what" got deleted
along the way for some reason or other, probably because I was
correcting what I thought were errors rather than actually reading if
still made sense afterward.

LOCALEs for you.

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The job of a critic is to give enough information about the subject of the
criticism for the reader to decide whether they want to invest their time
in reading, listening to, viewing or participating in the subject. A
critical article should also convey the reviewer’s opinion on the subject,
with justification for that opinion. The reader can then make an informed
decision based on the information given as well as in whether they usually
agree or disagree with the reviewer’s perspective. I learn as much from
good reviews by critics who don’t share my tastes as from those by critics
who do.

Unfortunately most so-called professional reviewers fail to grasp that.
What you want to know when you buy something like a piece of computer
hardware, mobile phone, TV, or a car, is if it's reliable, and what
issues it might have. You're better off reading what's written by people
who have bought something on Amazon than the so-called reviews written
by the morons writing for magazines who just copy the crap sent to them
about the manufacturer and say how beautiful it looks and oh looks it's
got a bigger screen than last year's model.

Everyone is a critic.

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Your reviews would fail to do that, given you are
suffering from Emperor's New Clothes syndrome.

Nonsensical argument from you, as you can’t point to something that does
not exist that I am being persuaded to agree with even though I can’t see
it. This simply isn’t the case.

You see the Emperor wearing clothes when he is stark naked.

Exactly

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everything through your political agenda bias, making every critique you

You mean I tell it like it is.

You tell it like the fundamentalist right wing idiots see it. That is
everyone who agrees with you, as far as we can see here.

I am a conservative centrist. I sit in the middle ground.

Hence why I am Liberal in my polity.

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deliver utterly worthless. Except to Dave, of course. Good old Dave. Where

No. Making everything I write a true reflective of what I am describing.

A true reflective? Learn ENGLISH.

Reflection. Learn to interpolate.

You got him there.

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If a movie or an episode of a TV series is shit I say it's shit.

No. If your opinion is that something is shit, you claim that as
indisputable truth. Not the same. Some things may be shot to you but not to
others. You never come across as recognising that.

"shot"? You means s*t. If's it's s*t I say it's s*t, because s*t is
what it is. I don't try to disguise the fact.

SAY Junk and that works better.

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Good old Dave. Where would you be without him? Well, maybe be you can
find a larger audience
among the gullible intellectually-challenged Biblical fundamentalist
demographic.

You are deranged.

Fair shout. Your audience and constituency is Dave and Dave alone, it was
deranged of me to think that even other gullible intellectually-challenged
Biblical fundamentalists would agree with you.

Biblical fundamentalists? I don't believe in Yad's evangelical and
heretical falsification of Christianity. I'm an Orthodox Christian.

LEave that aside for now. Mike is trying to bait you.

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And no.

No desire to take credit for that pile of shit? Don’t blame you.

It was nothing of the kind. It was an intellectually enlightened and
scientifically based article.

Aw bless. Two coherent sentences in a row. Pity they are entirely incorrect
in their content.

You are deluded.

Proven yet denied by Wilson and Mike.

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You are so brainwashed that it's impossible for you to see that the
Emperor is completely naked.

What Emperor? You’re at Dave levels of intellectual cohesion again.

The Emperor that fell for the scam of the invisible birthday suit.

Yes. I know the fairy tale. It is the thing you’re trying to apply it to
that you’ve never made clear.

I made it perfectly clear.

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As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made

in Doctor

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Who.

Oh really. Wasn't there one in series 9? Even if it was a hermaphrodite

If you don’t know the difference between a transexual and a

hermaphrodite,

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It makes no difference when one tries to impersonate either a man or a
woman.

Neither hermaphrodites or transexuals are trying to impersonate anything.

They are if they dress as someone of a sex they were not born with.

So you’re indeed trying to be every kind of idiot. Thanks for clarifying.
At least that’s one ambition within your reach (unlike scriptwriter, critic
or rational disputant.)

You are a fool. I don't subscribe to you deranged loony left agenda. A
human with is born a boy is always a boy. Letting them impersonate a
girl and encouraging them in that fantasy only serves to prolong their
mental illness.

And such people like Mike, Wilson and IDlehands prlongs the falsehood.

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you have no business spouting ignorant nonsense in this discussion at all.
[Bigoted homophobic rant snipped]

There was nothing bigoted not homophobic about it.

Yes, there was.

No there was not!

It was utterly so. Only your wilful blindness to anything other than
“alternative facts” and your ground in conservatism prevent you

from seeing

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it.

There was nothing bigoted nor homophobic about it at all. Only your
loony left extremism makes you think the contrary.

Met another of those this morning.

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You show again that you still do not understand English.
I said nothing about the exact mechanism, limit or energy requirement.

No, you show that you don’t understand the English you attempt to employ.
Your statement “some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their
gender just like Time Lords can” uses the construction “just

like” which,

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in English, explicitly means that you believe that the mechanisms are
strictly comparable, if not the same.

No it doesn't. The subject of the sentence is changing gender, therefore
just like implies that these Time Lords can change gender too.

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If you didn’t mean that similar mechanisms, which you could show to be
“just like” each other, were in play, then in English you would

not use the

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phrase “just like”. You’d use the phrase “a completely

different way from

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how”. Which would be accurate, of course, and would carry the correct
implication that they have fuck all to do with each other and that your
argument is specious. Which is why you tried to backtrack and claim
something different while STILL hoping to sustain your patently ridiculous
position.

You are totally and utterly deranged.

True of you to say that AGA.

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Admit defeat graciously and back away from your broken bulls*t argument.

You need to admit defeat.

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Let me explain the term transgender to you again. Gender meaning sex and
trans meaning to move across. Go figure.

Modern English words do not have the precise meaning of their root
elements.

Yes they do. You just don't understand them.

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We don’t watch TV shows on a farsight. Try using modern English

Television is a made up Greek-Latin word.

Got you.

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dictionary definitions and the meanings the general public give to words.

The ignorant clueless general public. No. I know what words mean. I
idiots dictate their misunderstanding of their true meanings to me.

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You’ll sound like a bit less of an idiot.
Only a bit, though.

You are the idiot here.

He feuls the Fire of Stupidity

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Post by The Last Doctor
It bears no relationship or comparison to human gender reassignment. You
really are stupider than Dave, aren’t you?

You are a complete and utter fool.

I’m prepared to go as far as “only as stupid as Dave” if that makes you
feel better.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
“Scientifically reasoned”? This from someone who sees no

difference between

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Post by The Last Doctor
a hermaphrodite, a transexual, and John Cleese in a dress? LOL.

A hermaphrodite can decide to act as whatever sex it wants. A
transsexual decides to do the same thing but does not have the required
genitalia.

Do you want a spade to help you dig even deeper into that hole?

You are a clueless fool.

True indeed. PAm would have fun.

[solar penguin]

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Post by Agamemnon
Scientifically reasoned refutation reinstated. The whole quote was
totally relevant and exposed the PC loonies and their tactics for what
they really are, a form of brainwashing with no scientific, or
sociological reasoning or justification whatsoever.

“Scientifically reasoned”? This from someone who sees no difference between
a hermaphrodite, a transexual, and John Cleese in a dress? LOL.

On the bright side, at least Aggy is now admitting that biology can be
scientific. In the past, he's insisted that "Biology is not a true
science", and people who think it is "don't have a clue about science."
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.drwho/l-jcfVv53-k/dssqiXwWn2cJ>
or <http://preview.tinyurl.com/AggyBiology1>
So at least that's some progress.

When it comes to Gallifreyan biology, Aggy has previously insisted that
"all biology texts books" say that "the biology of an Amoeba is not all
that different from that of a Human" because "all muscles are made of
cells," and therefore "What is True for one living creature is true for
every other", meaning that "What's true for human bodies is true for
Gallifreyan bodies."
<http://groups.google.co.uk/group/rec.arts.drwho/msg/77dae07be68acfd0>
or <http://preview.tinyurl.com/AggyBiology2>
No progress there ten.

[The Doctor]

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Post by Agamemnon

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Post by Agamemnon

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Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that you

described

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and

responded in

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Post by The Last Doctor

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full.
That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.

There was nothing ignorant about it at all. In fact it was very educated
and very well written.

That you think that says a lot about you that we already knew. It was bile
laden fact free vitriol, badly composed, incoherent and - wait, was it you
who wrote it?

You are totally deranged.

No, that would be you.

Post by Agamemnon
You would be a useless literary critic.

My reviews have generally been well received, in magazines, by authors and
on this forum among other places. Which would seem to indicate that as a
literary critic, I’m far from useless. Not great though. You however filter
everything through your political agenda bias, making every critique you
deliver utterly worthless. Except to Dave, of course. Good old Dave. Where
would you be without him? Well, maybe be you can find a larger audience
among the gullible intellectually-challenged Biblical fundamentalist
demographic.

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And no.

No desire to take credit for that pile of s*t? Don’t blame you.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

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It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.

Wrong. It referred to the PC loony agenda and how their fail to
understand science and pretend to be the intellectual elite attempting
to brainwash the foolish and the ignorant, in the same manner as the
conmen who sold the Emperor his invisible birthday suit, by constantly
deriding everyone who saw the truth, and the idiots fell for it, which
is blatantly evident from watching their depraved version of Doctor Who

You and Dave are making this connection but it’s entirely in your heads.

You are so brainwashed that it's impossible for you to see that the
Emperor is completely naked.

What Emperor? You’re at Dave levels of intellectual cohesion again.

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Post by Agamemnon

As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.

Oh really. Wasn't there one in series 9? Even if it was a hermaphrodite

If you don’t know the difference between a transexual and a hermaphrodite,

It makes no difference when one tries to impersonate either a man or a
woman.

Neither hermaphrodites or transexuals are trying to impersonate anything.
I’d ask what kind of idiot you are, but you seem to be aiming for the full
set.

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Post by The Last Doctor
you have no business spouting ignorant nonsense in this discussion at all.
[Bigoted homophobic rant snipped]

There was nothing bigoted not homophobic about it.

Yes, there was.

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Post by Agamemnon

Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.

Bollocks. Some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender
just like Time Lords can

Regenerating into entire new physiognomies? Really? On Earth? Don’t be such
a twat. Or maybe you feedlot believe this, in which case, again, you have
no business spouting your ignorant bollocks here. Go learn some basic
biology. GCSE should be enough.

You are the one in need of a lesson in basic biology. As I said some
species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender just like Time
Lords can

“Just like Time Lords can”. Please show use of regeneration energy, the
apparent existence of a cycle of twelve regenerations, and the ability to
change to an entirely different phenotype expression then, I n any one of
these species. Go ahead, PROVE this equivalence instead of making s*t up.

Post by Agamemnon
You clearly have no grasp of the English language. Since the Doctor has
changed sex that makes it transgender.

Incorrect. No transgender person has actually yet changed sex other than
legally. Maybe one day. Idiot.
Timelords, using their fictional process of regeneration, can do that, or
so it would appear. We have no idea what the underlying TIMELORD DNA looks
like of if it changes in regeneration, even one that makes the Timelord
appear to change gender in their humanlike appearance.
It bears no relationship or comparison to human gender reassignment. You
really are stupider than Dave, aren’t you?
Gender meaning sex and trans

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meaning to move. Go figure.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

[False reactionary “refutation” snipped]

Scientifically reasoned refutation reinstated. The whole quote was
totally relevant and exposed the PC loonies and their tactics for what
they really are, a form of brainwashing with no scientific, or
sociological reasoning or justification whatsoever.

“Scientifically reasoned”? This from someone who sees no difference between
a hermaphrodite, a transexual, and John Cleese in a dress? LOL.

You are sounding like a Theresa MAy brainwashed drone each day Mike.

[The Doctor]

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Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that you

described

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and responded in
full.
That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.

There was nothing ignorant about it at all. In fact it was very educated
and very well written.

That you think that says a lot about you that we already knew. It was bile
laden fact free vitriol, badly composed, incoherent and - wait, was it you
who wrote it?

You are totally deranged. You would be a useless literary critic. And no.

And that is putting it mildly.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.

Wrong. It referred to the PC loony agenda and how their fail to
understand science and pretend to be the intellectual elite attempting
to brainwash the foolish and the ignorant, in the same manner as the
conmen who sold the Emperor his invisible birthday suit, by constantly
deriding everyone who saw the truth, and the idiots fell for it, which
is blatantly evident from watching their depraved version of Doctor Who

You and Dave are making this connection but it’s entirely in your heads.

You are so brainwashed that it's impossible for you to see that the
Emperor is completely naked.

Good analogy

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Post by Agamemnon

As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.

Oh really. Wasn't there one in series 9? Even if it was a hermaphrodite

If you don’t know the difference between a transexual and a hermaphrodite,

It makes no difference when one tries to impersonate either a man or a
woman.

As you were saying AGA.

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Post by The Last Doctor
you have no business spouting ignorant nonsense in this discussion at all.
[Bigoted homophobic rant snipped]

There was nothing bigoted not homophobic about it.

Talk about out of context.

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Post by Agamemnon

Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.

Bollocks. Some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender
just like Time Lords can

Regenerating into entire new physiognomies? Really? On Earth? Don’t be such
a twat. Or maybe you feedlot believe this, in which case, again, you have
no business spouting your ignorant bollocks here. Go learn some basic
biology. GCSE should be enough.

You are the one in need of a lesson in basic biology. As I said some
species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender just like Time
Lords can and the mechanism has long been explained.
Protandrous/Protogynous hermaphrodites is what they are called.
Other species are able to regenerate lost body parts.
Caterpillars are able to change their physicals froms into butterflies.
Put all of that together and what do you have?

We await.

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Post by Agamemnon
That ability also makes the Doctor transgender.

Bulls*t, as it’s not the same kind of transformation at all. Trying to
make it match makes you look like a bigger idiot than Dave.

You clearly have no grasp of the English language. Since the Doctor has
changed sex that makes it transgender. Gender meaning sex and trans
meaning to move. Go figure.

WElcome to the immoral agenda

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Post by Agamemnon

So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

[False reactionary “refutation” snipped]

Scientifically reasoned refutation reinstated. The whole quote was
totally relevant and exposed the PC loonies and their tactics for what
they really are, a form of brainwashing with no scientific, or
sociological reasoning or justification whatsoever.

Right on!

[The Doctor]

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Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that you described
as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and responded in
full.
That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.

There was nothing ignorant about it at all. In fact it was very educated
and very well written.

Hear! Hear!!

Post by Agamemnon

It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.

Wrong. It referred to the PC loony agenda and how their fail to
understand science and pretend to be the intellectual elite attempting
to brainwash the foolish and the ignorant, in the same manner as the
conmen who sold the Emperor his invisible birthday suit, by constantly
deriding everyone who saw the truth, and the idiots fell for it, which
is blatantly evident from watching their depraved version of Doctor Who

Exactly!!

Post by Agamemnon

As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.

Oh really. Wasn't there one in series 9? Even if it was a hermaphrodite
its clear that Doctor Who has been hijacked and enslaved to serve an
LGBT agenda. Just look at the lesbian companion last series. Sick! This
is supposed to be a family ENTERTAINMENT show and there is nothing
entertaining about the LGBT agenda especially when it's being imposed on
an overwhelmingly heterosexual audience.

RTD started this.

Post by Agamemnon

Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.

Bollocks. Some species of fish, eels, and frogs can change their gender
just like Time Lords can and the mechanism has long been explained.
Protandrous/Protogynous hermaphrodites is what they are called.
That ability also makes the Doctor transgender.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21332-zoologger-transgender-fish-perform-reverse-sex-flip/

All right ...

Post by Agamemnon

So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

Wrong. The whole quote was totally relevant and exposed the PC loonies
and their tactics for what they really are, a form of brainwashing with
no scientific, or sociological reasoning or justification whatsoever.

exactly!!

[The Doctor]

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that you described
as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and responded in
full.
That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.
It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.
As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.
Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.
So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

I disagree therefore i dismiss eh Mike?

[The Last Doctor]

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Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that you described
as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and responded in
full.
That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.
It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.
As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.
Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.
So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

I disagree therefore i dismiss eh Mike?

No Dave. Do try to pay attention. Yes, like any educated and insightful
person, I completely disagree with the ignorant position held by your
friend.

However, I’m not dismissing it because I disagree with it. I’m dismissing
it because it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH DOCTOR WHO OR TIMELORD
REGENERATION, which is something both fictional and COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

So it’s utterly irrelevant to the discussion, exactly as if you were
telling me that the Doctor will now be subject to the doctrine of Original
Sin once she becomes female because, you know, Eve.

Not human, so not a daughter of Eve. Not human and not undergoing or
desiring human gender reassignment, therefore not transexual. Got it yet?

[The Doctor]

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Post by The Doctor

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Post by Agamemnon
It's not one of those stupid bloody female Michaels again, is it? The
one in Star Trek: Discovery is bad enough as it is.

Argh! Still I wonder if Mike ever read PJ's quote.

If “PJ” is the person who wrote that unattributed rant that you described
as from “a female Dr Who fan” then yes, Dave, I read it and responded in
full.
That rant was an ignorant diatribe against human transexuals and human
gender reassignment.
It had nothing to do with Doctor Who and made no reference to Doctor Who.
As far as I know no reference to human transexuals has been made in Doctor
Who.
Regeneration, even where it involves a change of gender, is a fictional
scientific process that can rejuvenate at least some members of one alien
species (plus at least one human who was infused with artron energy while
still a foetus) using a mechanism that hasn’t been explained and that is
currently unexplainable by humans. It has no relationship to human gender
reassignment or to transexuals.
So the whole “quote” was irrelevant as well as wrong-headed.

I disagree therefore i dismiss eh Mike?

No Dave. Do try to pay attention. Yes, like any educated and insightful
person, I completely disagree with the ignorant position held by your
friend.
However, I’m not dismissing it because I disagree with it. I’m dismissing
it because it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH DOCTOR WHO OR TIMELORD
REGENERATION, which is something both fictional and COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
So it’s utterly irrelevant to the discussion, exactly as if you were
telling me that the Doctor will now be subject to the doctrine of Original
Sin once she becomes female because, you know, Eve.
Not human, so not a daughter of Eve. Not human and not undergoing or
desiring human gender reassignment, therefore not transexual. Got it yet?

No So you say aline can change gender from male to female?

[The Doctor]

Post by The Doctor
Frankly, I don't think some people realize just how sadistic the Radical
Left are! Those who sadly think they were born the wrong sex/gender don't
realize that this is an scientific impossibility. And never mind about
the gender role crap! Men can be stay at Dads and Women can be Nuclear
Physicists. So that whole "gender role" thing is just a moronic
smokescreen and a highly insulting one at that.
Now if you'll forgive me for sounding a bit insulting but there are those
on the Radical Left with High IQ'S but no common sense (hence the term
pinhead) who think of themselves as the "Intellectually elite" and those
with lower IQ's who agree with that with which the stuck-up, pompous
elite CHOOSES to share with them are regarded as "Useful Idiots". They're
told just enough to be convinced that THEIR side is the correct side and
that those who don't agree with them are evil, selfish,
overly-judgemental, etc, etc ad nauseum! The usual B.S that makes
gullible fools angry and eager to endorse whatever "Noble and Inclusive"
B.S that the Elitists tell them will make them good and caring people BUT
alas those "evil conservatives" who don't understand science (Never mind
the one's whose IQ's are higher than even the stuck up elitist pricks)
and "hate" those who are different, etc, etc, ad nauseum!
This is of course PURE BILE!! Conservatives do not hate those who are
different (90% do not! as for the 10%? You can find that sort in ANY
group!!) we actually feel sorry for them and actually want to help them.
We see ourselves (which is what one should at least take into
consideration when judging us. At least those who wish to do so fairly)
as trying to throw a life-preserver to someone who is caught in a
whirlpool that is slowly but surely sucking them in and downward at
leisurely pace. Or throwing up road-blocks to try and stop someone from
slowly driving over a cliff. And when we do we get yelled at, called
names, laughed at, mocked and accused of being hateful. Yeah, because
trying to save people is really a hateful thing to do. Again, you don't
have to agree with our point of view BUT knock off with all the ignorant
bile-spewing. Since Jan some on the left have become completely unhinged.
It's at an all time low. How about everyone (especially those who came
here to troll which is something only a socially maladjusted loser would
do) try to see things from the moderates point of view. Radicals on
either side are too far gone to be reasoned with. Both suffer from
delusions of grandeur! And both know how to wind people who are somewhat
on their side, to start behaving in a very inappropriate manner.
People who think they're the wrong sex need psychiatric help! Not some
sick plastic surgery. And many feel just as depressed as they did before
the operation. And it has NOTHING to with any religious or political
group! That's what cowards and liars who want to score some cheap
political points do. NO! The harsh cold reality is that THE PERSON
THEMSELVES don't like what they've done because they know deep down
inside that what they've done wasn't right. And so they change back. But
whatever made them loathe themselves (there have been proven cases where
some sick, psychotic mothers groomed their sons into being women.) so
they change back. Still not happy so they change back yet again! And then
some (40% of them!!!) end up committing suicide. And again, the Radical
Left, like some demented bunch of sociopaths, blame those who oppose this
type of operation and behavior when the reality is THEY'RE they ones who
are to blame for not allowing these mentally ill people get the treatment
they need! That like denying Cancer treatment to a cancer patient and
then blaming conservatives when they die. THAT, my friends is the sick,
azz-backwards and upside down world we live in today. SMH

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn’t about Doctor Who. It was a bunch of
reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn’t understand a whole lot
about psychology and is railing against transgender gender reassignment.
Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to do with
Doctor Who.
An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard as
magical because it’s beyond our knowledge) to change their form, is
absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

Are you as secluded as Stephen Wilson?

[Agamemnon]

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by The Doctor
Frankly, I don't think some people realize just how sadistic the Radical
Left are! Those who sadly think they were born the wrong sex/gender don't
realize that this is an scientific impossibility. And never mind about
the gender role crap! Men can be stay at Dads and Women can be Nuclear
Physicists. So that whole "gender role" thing is just a moronic
smokescreen and a highly insulting one at that.
Now if you'll forgive me for sounding a bit insulting but there are those
on the Radical Left with High IQ'S but no common sense (hence the term
pinhead) who think of themselves as the "Intellectually elite" and those
with lower IQ's who agree with that with which the stuck-up, pompous
elite CHOOSES to share with them are regarded as "Useful Idiots". They're
told just enough to be convinced that THEIR side is the correct side and
that those who don't agree with them are evil, selfish,
overly-judgemental, etc, etc ad nauseum! The usual B.S that makes
gullible fools angry and eager to endorse whatever "Noble and Inclusive"
B.S that the Elitists tell them will make them good and caring people BUT
alas those "evil conservatives" who don't understand science (Never mind
the one's whose IQ's are higher than even the stuck up elitist pricks)
and "hate" those who are different, etc, etc, ad nauseum!
This is of course PURE BILE!! Conservatives do not hate those who are
different (90% do not! as for the 10%? You can find that sort in ANY
group!!) we actually feel sorry for them and actually want to help them.
We see ourselves (which is what one should at least take into
consideration when judging us. At least those who wish to do so fairly)
as trying to throw a life-preserver to someone who is caught in a
whirlpool that is slowly but surely sucking them in and downward at
leisurely pace. Or throwing up road-blocks to try and stop someone from
slowly driving over a cliff. And when we do we get yelled at, called
names, laughed at, mocked and accused of being hateful. Yeah, because
trying to save people is really a hateful thing to do. Again, you don't
have to agree with our point of view BUT knock off with all the ignorant
bile-spewing. Since Jan some on the left have become completely unhinged.
It's at an all time low. How about everyone (especially those who came
here to troll which is something only a socially maladjusted loser would
do) try to see things from the moderates point of view. Radicals on
either side are too far gone to be reasoned with. Both suffer from
delusions of grandeur! And both know how to wind people who are somewhat
on their side, to start behaving in a very inappropriate manner.
People who think they're the wrong sex need psychiatric help! Not some
sick plastic surgery. And many feel just as depressed as they did before
the operation. And it has NOTHING to with any religious or political
group! That's what cowards and liars who want to score some cheap
political points do. NO! The harsh cold reality is that THE PERSON
THEMSELVES don't like what they've done because they know deep down
inside that what they've done wasn't right. And so they change back. But
whatever made them loathe themselves (there have been proven cases where
some sick, psychotic mothers groomed their sons into being women.) so
they change back. Still not happy so they change back yet again! And then
some (40% of them!!!) end up committing suicide. And again, the Radical
Left, like some demented bunch of sociopaths, blame those who oppose this
type of operation and behavior when the reality is THEY'RE they ones who
are to blame for not allowing these mentally ill people get the treatment
they need! That like denying Cancer treatment to a cancer patient and
then blaming conservatives when they die. THAT, my friends is the sick,
azz-backwards and upside down world we live in today. SMH

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn’t about Doctor Who. It was a bunch of

There was nothing disturbed about it at all. It was totally logical and
coherent unlike you PC loony leftists.

Post by The Last Doctor
reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn’t understand a whole lot

She was actually a moderate centrist conservative.

Post by The Last Doctor
about psychology and is railing against transgender gender reassignment.

She knows more about psychology than you do. These people are suffering
from a psychiatric disorder and any medical professional who agrees to
mutilate them the way they are demanding is guilty of medical misconduct
and praying on the vulnerable and should be stuck off.

Post by The Last Doctor
Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to do with
Doctor Who.

It speak out against political correctness and shows that there is
nothing correct about it at all and is nothing more than loony left-wing
brainwashing, therefore it has every relevance to Doctor Who since it is
being used for the same despicable purpose.

Post by The Last Doctor
An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard as
magical because it’s beyond our knowledge) to change their form, is
absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

BULLSHIT! Doctor Who has been politicized in per suite of a bigoted,
racist, and sexist loony left agenda and the viewing figures have
completely collapsed as a result. The way it's going it will not be long
before it is cancelled. The revolt against it has intensified with the
majority of fandom now against Chibnall and Whittaker.

[The Doctor]

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Doctor
Frankly, I don't think some people realize just how sadistic the Radical
Left are! Those who sadly think they were born the wrong sex/gender don't
realize that this is an scientific impossibility. And never mind about
the gender role crap! Men can be stay at Dads and Women can be Nuclear
Physicists. So that whole "gender role" thing is just a moronic
smokescreen and a highly insulting one at that.
Now if you'll forgive me for sounding a bit insulting but there are those
on the Radical Left with High IQ'S but no common sense (hence the term
pinhead) who think of themselves as the "Intellectually elite" and those
with lower IQ's who agree with that with which the stuck-up, pompous
elite CHOOSES to share with them are regarded as "Useful Idiots". They're
told just enough to be convinced that THEIR side is the correct side and
that those who don't agree with them are evil, selfish,
overly-judgemental, etc, etc ad nauseum! The usual B.S that makes
gullible fools angry and eager to endorse whatever "Noble and Inclusive"
B.S that the Elitists tell them will make them good and caring people BUT
alas those "evil conservatives" who don't understand science (Never mind
the one's whose IQ's are higher than even the stuck up elitist pricks)
and "hate" those who are different, etc, etc, ad nauseum!
This is of course PURE BILE!! Conservatives do not hate those who are
different (90% do not! as for the 10%? You can find that sort in ANY
group!!) we actually feel sorry for them and actually want to help them.
We see ourselves (which is what one should at least take into
consideration when judging us. At least those who wish to do so fairly)
as trying to throw a life-preserver to someone who is caught in a
whirlpool that is slowly but surely sucking them in and downward at
leisurely pace. Or throwing up road-blocks to try and stop someone from
slowly driving over a cliff. And when we do we get yelled at, called
names, laughed at, mocked and accused of being hateful. Yeah, because
trying to save people is really a hateful thing to do. Again, you don't
have to agree with our point of view BUT knock off with all the ignorant
bile-spewing. Since Jan some on the left have become completely unhinged.
It's at an all time low. How about everyone (especially those who came
here to troll which is something only a socially maladjusted loser would
do) try to see things from the moderates point of view. Radicals on
either side are too far gone to be reasoned with. Both suffer from
delusions of grandeur! And both know how to wind people who are somewhat
on their side, to start behaving in a very inappropriate manner.
People who think they're the wrong sex need psychiatric help! Not some
sick plastic surgery. And many feel just as depressed as they did before
the operation. And it has NOTHING to with any religious or political
group! That's what cowards and liars who want to score some cheap
political points do. NO! The harsh cold reality is that THE PERSON
THEMSELVES don't like what they've done because they know deep down
inside that what they've done wasn't right. And so they change back. But
whatever made them loathe themselves (there have been proven cases where
some sick, psychotic mothers groomed their sons into being women.) so
they change back. Still not happy so they change back yet again! And then
some (40% of them!!!) end up committing suicide. And again, the Radical
Left, like some demented bunch of sociopaths, blame those who oppose this
type of operation and behavior when the reality is THEY'RE they ones who
are to blame for not allowing these mentally ill people get the treatment
they need! That like denying Cancer treatment to a cancer patient and
then blaming conservatives when they die. THAT, my friends is the sick,
azz-backwards and upside down world we live in today. SMH

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn’t about Doctor Who. It was a bunch of

There was nothing disturbed about it at all. It was totally logical and
coherent unlike you PC loony leftists.

Hear!! Hear!!

Post by Agamemnon

reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn’t understand a whole lot

She was actually a moderate centrist conservative.

And is trying her best to keep trolls of a Facebook grop.

Post by Agamemnon

about psychology and is railing against transgender gender reassignment.

She knows more about psychology than you do. These people are suffering
from a psychiatric disorder and any medical professional who agrees to
mutilate them the way they are demanding is guilty of medical misconduct
and praying on the vulnerable and should be stuck off.

LGBT bullies all right.

Post by Agamemnon

Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to do with
Doctor Who.

It speak out against political correctness and shows that there is
nothing correct about it at all and is nothing more than loony left-wing
brainwashing, therefore it has every relevance to Doctor Who since it is
being used for the same despicable purpose.

Exactly why the Chibnall foreruning of Dcotor Who could actually
make Jonthan Powell rub his hands in glee.

Post by Agamemnon

An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard as
magical because it’s beyond our knowledge) to change their form, is
absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

BULL! Doctor Who has been politicized in per suite of a bigoted,
racist, and sexist loony left agenda and the viewing figures have
completely collapsed as a result. The way it's going it will not be long
before it is cancelled. The revolt against it has intensified with the
majority of fandom now against Chibnall and Whittaker.

Exactly! And I am hepling these rebels as much as I can .

Ag you are a witness to this.

[The Last Doctor]

[Snip rabid load of bigoted crap. I re-posted it once, that’s more than
enough].

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
Dave, that disturbed rant wasn’t about Doctor Who.

There was nothing disturbed about it at all. It was totally logical and
coherent unlike you PC loony leftists.

Well, as a rabid, disturbed ultra-conservative yourself, of course it would
resonate with you. One easy way to spot such a person: they fling the term
“PC loony leftist” at anyone with views less reactionary than Enoch Powell,
Norman Tebbitt (or, say, Goldwater and the Birchers for those of you
reading from across the water. “SJW” is their similar scent-marker.)

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
It was a bunch of reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn’t
understand a whole lot

She was actually a moderate centrist conservative.

Or so Thatcher or Schickelgruber might have said.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
about psychology and is railing against transgender gender reassignment.

She knows more about psychology than you do.

Definitely not, since she and you seemingly know fuck all about it.

Post by Agamemnon
These people are suffering from a psychiatric disorder

Yes. This part is correct.

Post by Agamemnon
and any medical professional who agrees to
mutilate them the way they are demanding is guilty of medical misconduct
and [preying] on the vulnerable and should be [struck] off.

This part however is not. Contrary to your ultra conservative beliefs there
is nothing abnormal about their psychiatric state any more than there is
about someone who is gay. It can’t be “cured” by psychiatric or chemical
means. If we had the means to fundamentally alter their DNA so that they
redeveloped physiologically to align with their mental sex then that would
be ideal; however without that biotechnical capability the best we can do
is to alllow them to live the way they choose and make such surgical
adjustments as we can to let them feel more comfortable in their bodies.

Your fascistic desire to force them to live as a sex they don’t identify
with is an attempt to limit their freedom and is tantamount to mental
mutilation and even torture, as can be evidenced by suicide rates among
such people when their psychological needs are denied or oppressed.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to do with
Doctor Who.

It speak out against political correctness and shows that there is
nothing correct about it at all and is nothing more than loony left-wing
brainwashing, therefore it has every relevance to Doctor Who since it is
being used for the same despicable purpose.

You’re first of all just agreeing with a moron and then conflating that
with Doctor Who, as Dave is. The original poster that Dave dredged up
wasn’t making that utterly false connection, just ranting.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard as
magical because it’s beyond our knowledge) to change their form, is
absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

BULLSHIT!

OK then: demonstrate with some justification other than your usual radical
right vitriol how regeneration, an alien process of rejuvenation whose
mechanism we don’t understand, is the same as allowing someone with gender
dysphoria to live as the sex they want to be.

Post by Agamemnon
Doctor Who has been politicized in [pursuit] of a bigoted,
racist, and sexist loony left agenda

You can’t find one significant bit of evidence for this in Doctor Who. It
does align more with the modern, more liberal views of today’s society than
those of the 1950s, but that’s not pursuing an agenda - it’s moving with
the times. That which does not evolve, stagnates.

(I’m not including Torchwood or Class, which did have a distinct
liberalising and pro-gay bias. But those are spinoffs on minority channels
and not Doctor Who which has maintained its mainstream, socially centrist
position. What has moved over the last thirty years is where the centre is
- see, for example, the social acceptance of gay marriage by the general
population and the recent popularity of transgender characters in TV shows.

Post by Agamemnon
and the viewing figures have
completely collapsed as a result.

Viewing figures have declined broadly in line with those of all long
running TV shows. There is no relationship between that and your imaginary
“PC LOONY LEFTIST” agenda

Post by Agamemnon
The way it's going it will not be long
before it is cancelled.

If Jodie’s stint is a disaster, it will be short lived but the show will
get another shot at reinvigorating itself. It makes the BBC a whole ton of
money and is an iconic brand globally, almost completely regardless of its
UK viewership. If I had to guess, I’d say that even 2 million viewers would
be enough to keep the show alive. After all, Dave (the channel, not your
Canadian fellow-traveller) is keeping Red Dwarf in production on barely 2/3
of that.

Post by Agamemnon
The revolt against it has intensified with the
majority of fandom now against Chibnall and Whittaker.

There is no evidence for this. There’s a tiny vocal opposition of extreme
right wing bigots (such as personified in you and Dave (your Canadian
fellow-traveller, not the channel) - or “the immoral minority” for short -
and a small proportion of stick-in-the-mud old Whovians. You’re all
entitled to your opinions, and more than entitled to abandon Doctor Who and
seek out TV shows that align to your prejudices or rewatch old McCoy
episodes on DVD.

In the meantime, Doctor Who with Jodie Whittaker is in production and we’ll
see what that’s like this time next year. I’m looking forward to it
hopefully but without huge expectations, and I could well end up
disappointed. But having not seen it, I won’t know that for a year or so. I
don’t condemn things I know nothing about out of hand.

[J. Clarke]

On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:58:55 -0400, The Last Doctor

[Snip rabid load of bigoted crap. I re-posted it once, that’s more than
enough].

Post by Agamemnon

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn’t about Doctor Who.

There was nothing disturbed about it at all. It was totally logical and
coherent unlike you PC loony leftists.

Well, as a rabid, disturbed ultra-conservative yourself, of course it would
resonate with you. One easy way to spot such a person: they fling the term
“PC loony leftist” at anyone with views less reactionary than Enoch Powell,
Norman Tebbitt (or, say, Goldwater and the Birchers for those of you
reading from across the water. “SJW” is their similar scent-marker.)

Post by Agamemnon

It was a bunch of reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn’t
understand a whole lot

She was actually a moderate centrist conservative.

Or so Thatcher or Schickelgruber might have said.

Comparing Thatcher to Hitler suggests a worldview so far to the left
that Obama looks conservative to you.

Post by Agamemnon

about psychology and is railing against transgender gender reassignment.

She knows more about psychology than you do.

Definitely not, since she and you seemingly know fuck all about it.

Post by Agamemnon
These people are suffering from a psychiatric disorder

Yes. This part is correct.

Post by Agamemnon
and any medical professional who agrees to
mutilate them the way they are demanding is guilty of medical misconduct
and [preying] on the vulnerable and should be [struck] off.

This part however is not. Contrary to your ultra conservative beliefs there
is nothing abnormal about their psychiatric state any more than there is
about someone who is gay.

So which is it, are they suffering from a psychatric disorder or
aren't they? If they have a psychiatric disorder the fix is to change
their brain, not their body.

It can’t be “cured” by psychiatric or chemical
means. If we had the means to fundamentally alter their DNA so that they
redeveloped physiologically to align with their mental sex then that would
be ideal; however without that biotechnical capability the best we can do
is to alllow them to live the way they choose and make such surgical
adjustments as we can to let them feel more comfortable in their bodies.

That statement is not consistent with your statement that they have a
psychiatric disorder. Your argument seems to be that from a
mental-health viewpoint they are fine and is their bodies that have
the disorder.

<remaining waste of bandwidth snipped>

[The Last Doctor]

Post by J. Clarke
On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:58:55 -0400, The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
She was actually a moderate centrist conservative.

Or so Thatcher or Schickelgruber might have said.

Comparing Thatcher to Hitler suggests a worldview so far to the left
that Obama looks conservative to you.

I wasn’t comparing the two. They were two points at the right side of the
scale, but very far apart.

Obama, from a British perspective, was a centrist liberal. Not
conservative, but far from left wing. The US doesn’t really have any
mainstream left wing politicians in the global scale.

Post by J. Clarke

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
These people are suffering from a psychiatric disorder

Yes. This part is correct.

Post by Agamemnon
and any medical professional who agrees to
mutilate them the way they are demanding is guilty of medical misconduct
and [preying] on the vulnerable and should be [struck] off.

This part however is not. Contrary to your ultra conservative beliefs there
is nothing abnormal about their psychiatric state any more than there is
about someone who is gay.

So which is it, are they suffering from a psychatric disorder or
aren't they? If they have a psychiatric disorder the fix is to change
their brain, not their body.

The terminology is all wrong. I’m not any kind of psychiatrist or
psychologist myself. I was probably wrong to agree the term “psychiatric
disorder”. They have a mental condition that differs significantly from the
norm but that seems to be fundamental to their psyche. Call it what you
will, it’s normal for them. They just aren’t who they deeply think they
should be.

Post by J. Clarke

Post by The Last Doctor
It can’t be “cured” by psychiatric or chemical
means. If we had the means to fundamentally alter their DNA so that they
redeveloped physiologically to align with their mental sex then that would
be ideal; however without that biotechnical capability the best we can do
is to alllow them to live the way they choose and make such surgical
adjustments as we can to let them feel more comfortable in their bodies

That statement is not consistent with your statement that they have a
psychiatric disorder. Your argument seems to be that from a
mental-health viewpoint they are fine and is their bodies that have
the disorder.

On the contrary, their mental health is not fine unless they can reassign
their gender. Surgery is optional but can make a huge difference to
feelings of self worth and well being.

[The Doctor]

Post by J. Clarke
On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:58:55 -0400, The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
She was actually a moderate centrist conservative.

Or so Thatcher or Schickelgruber might have said.

Comparing Thatcher to Hitler suggests a worldview so far to the left
that Obama looks conservative to you.

I wasn’t comparing the two. They were two points at the right side of the
scale, but very far apart.
Obama, from a British perspective, was a centrist liberal. Not
conservative, but far from left wing. The US doesn’t really have any
mainstream left wing politicians in the global scale.

Post by J. Clarke

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
These people are suffering from a psychiatric disorder

Yes. This part is correct.

Post by Agamemnon
and any medical professional who agrees to
mutilate them the way they are demanding is guilty of medical misconduct
and [preying] on the vulnerable and should be [struck] off.

This part however is not. Contrary to your ultra conservative beliefs there
is nothing abnormal about their psychiatric state any more than there is
about someone who is gay.

So which is it, are they suffering from a psychatric disorder or
aren't they? If they have a psychiatric disorder the fix is to change
their brain, not their body.

The terminology is all wrong. I’m not any kind of psychiatrist or
psychologist myself. I was probably wrong to agree the term “psychiatric
disorder”. They have a mental condition that differs significantly from the
norm but that seems to be fundamental to their psyche. Call it what you
will, it’s normal for them. They just aren’t who they deeply think they
should be.

Post by J. Clarke

Post by The Last Doctor
It can’t be “cured” by psychiatric or chemical
means. If we had the means to fundamentally alter their DNA so that they
redeveloped physiologically to align with their mental sex then that would
be ideal; however without that biotechnical capability the best we can do
is to alllow them to live the way they choose and make such surgical
adjustments as we can to let them feel more comfortable in their bodies

That statement is not consistent with your statement that they have a
psychiatric disorder. Your argument seems to be that from a
mental-health viewpoint they are fine and is their bodies that have
the disorder.

On the contrary, their mental health is not fine unless they can reassign
their gender. Surgery is optional but can make a huge difference to
feelings of self worth and well being.

Just got my canadian passport recently. The lady was nice
but she sounded and was built like a man.

[Agamemnon]

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by J. Clarke
On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:58:55 -0400, The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
These people are suffering from a psychiatric disorder

Yes. This part is correct.

Post by Agamemnon
and any medical professional who agrees to
mutilate them the way they are demanding is guilty of medical misconduct
and [preying] on the vulnerable and should be [struck] off.

This part however is not. Contrary to your ultra conservative beliefs there
is nothing abnormal about their psychiatric state any more than there is
about someone who is gay.

So which is it, are they suffering from a psychatric disorder or
aren't they? If they have a psychiatric disorder the fix is to change
their brain, not their body.

The terminology is all wrong. I’m not any kind of psychiatrist or
psychologist myself. I was probably wrong to agree the term “psychiatric
disorder”. They have a mental condition that differs significantly from the
norm but that seems to be fundamental to their psyche. Call it what you
will, it’s normal for them. They just aren’t who they deeply think they
should be.

These people have been brainwashed by society and that brainwashing
needs to be reversed. Injecting men with female hormones to turn them
into women and vica versa only reinforces that brainwashing. They need
to accept they way they were born. According to Facebook my brain is 90%
female based on the colours I like. Why aren't I demanding that my cock
is turned into a vagina and breast implants? Why do I fancy women and
not men? Because it's all loony leftist BULLSHIT!

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by J. Clarke

Post by The Last Doctor
It can’t be “cured” by psychiatric or chemical
means. If we had the means to fundamentally alter their DNA so that they
redeveloped physiologically to align with their mental sex then that would
be ideal; however without that biotechnical capability the best we can do
is to alllow them to live the way they choose and make such surgical
adjustments as we can to let them feel more comfortable in their bodies

That statement is not consistent with your statement that they have a
psychiatric disorder. Your argument seems to be that from a
mental-health viewpoint they are fine and is their bodies that have
the disorder.

On the contrary, their mental health is not fine unless they can reassign
their gender. Surgery is optional but can make a huge difference to
feelings of self worth and well being.

This is only going to make matters worse for them. It's a mental problem
they are suffering from not a physical one. Their fantasies should not
be encouraged and reinforced by the people entrusted to treat them. Any
practitioner doing this should be struck off.

[The Doctor]

Post by Agamemnon

Post by J. Clarke
On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:58:55 -0400, The Last Doctor

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
These people are suffering from a psychiatric disorder

Yes. This part is correct.

Post by Agamemnon
and any medical professional who agrees to
mutilate them the way they are demanding is guilty of medical misconduct
and [preying] on the vulnerable and should be [struck] off.

This part however is not. Contrary to your ultra conservative beliefs there
is nothing abnormal about their psychiatric state any more than there is
about someone who is gay.

So which is it, are they suffering from a psychatric disorder or
aren't they? If they have a psychiatric disorder the fix is to change
their brain, not their body.

The terminology is all wrong. I’m not any kind of psychiatrist or
psychologist myself. I was probably wrong to agree the term “psychiatric
disorder”. They have a mental condition that differs significantly from the
norm but that seems to be fundamental to their psyche. Call it what you
will, it’s normal for them. They just aren’t who they deeply think they
should be.

These people have been brainwashed by society and that brainwashing
needs to be reversed. Injecting men with female hormones to turn them
into women and vica versa only reinforces that brainwashing. They need
to accept they way they were born. According to Facebook my brain is 90%
female based on the colours I like. Why aren't I demanding that my cock
is turned into a vagina and breast implants? Why do I fancy women and
not men? Because it's all loony leftist BULLS*T!

LGBT agenda at work.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by J. Clarke

Post by The Last Doctor
It can’t be “cured” by psychiatric or chemical
means. If we had the means to fundamentally alter their DNA so that they
redeveloped physiologically to align with their mental sex then that would
be ideal; however without that biotechnical capability the best we can do
is to alllow them to live the way they choose and make such surgical
adjustments as we can to let them feel more comfortable in their bodies

That statement is not consistent with your statement that they have a
psychiatric disorder. Your argument seems to be that from a
mental-health viewpoint they are fine and is their bodies that have
the disorder.

On the contrary, their mental health is not fine unless they can reassign
their gender. Surgery is optional but can make a huge difference to
feelings of self worth and well being.

This is only going to make matters worse for them. It's a mental problem
they are suffering from not a physical one. Their fantasies should not
be encouraged and reinforced by the people entrusted to treat them. Any
practitioner doing this should be struck off.

And then we will wonder how DW when down in ratings.

[The Doctor]

Post by J. Clarke
On Sat, 11 Nov 2017 11:58:55 -0400, The Last Doctor

[Snip rabid load of bigoted crap. I re-posted it once, that’s more than
enough].

Post by Agamemnon

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn’t about Doctor Who.

There was nothing disturbed about it at all. It was totally logical and
coherent unlike you PC loony leftists.

Well, as a rabid, disturbed ultra-conservative yourself, of course it would
resonate with you. One easy way to spot such a person: they fling the term
“PC loony leftist” at anyone with views less reactionary than Enoch Powell,
Norman Tebbitt (or, say, Goldwater and the Birchers for those of you
reading from across the water. “SJW” is their similar scent-marker.)

Post by Agamemnon

It was a bunch of reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn’t
understand a whole lot

She was actually a moderate centrist conservative.

Or so Thatcher or Schickelgruber might have said.

Comparing Thatcher to Hitler suggests a worldview so far to the left
that Obama looks conservative to you.

Post by Agamemnon

about psychology and is railing against transgender gender reassignment.

She knows more about psychology than you do.

Definitely not, since she and you seemingly know fuck all about it.

Post by Agamemnon
These people are suffering from a psychiatric disorder

Yes. This part is correct.

Post by Agamemnon
and any medical professional who agrees to
mutilate them the way they are demanding is guilty of medical misconduct
and [preying] on the vulnerable and should be [struck] off.

This part however is not. Contrary to your ultra conservative beliefs there
is nothing abnormal about their psychiatric state any more than there is
about someone who is gay.

So which is it, are they suffering from a psychatric disorder or
aren't they? If they have a psychiatric disorder the fix is to change
their brain, not their body.

It can’t be “cured” by psychiatric or chemical
means. If we had the means to fundamentally alter their DNA so that they
redeveloped physiologically to align with their mental sex then that would
be ideal; however without that biotechnical capability the best we can do
is to alllow them to live the way they choose and make such surgical
adjustments as we can to let them feel more comfortable in their bodies.

That statement is not consistent with your statement that they have a
psychiatric disorder. Your argument seems to be that from a
mental-health viewpoint they are fine and is their bodies that have
the disorder.
<remaining waste of bandwidth snipped>

Good point sir!!

[The Doctor]

J. Clarke claimed...

Post by J. Clarke
Comparing Thatcher to Hitler suggests a worldview so far to the left
that Obama looks conservative to you.

Of course. _All_ American politicians are conservative by British
standards (with the possible exception of that Bernie Whatshisname
who's almost centrist.)

Even Obama?

BTW, J. Clarke is not a dw regualr IIRC

[Agamemnon]

Post by The Last Doctor
[Snip rabid load of bigoted crap. I re-posted it once, that’s more than
enough].

There was nothing rabid or bigoted about it at all. Your reply is the
prime example of rabid and bigoted crap.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
Dave, that disturbed rant wasn’t about Doctor Who.

There was nothing disturbed about it at all. It was totally logical and
coherent unlike you PC loony leftists.

Well, as a rabid, disturbed ultra-conservative yourself, of course it would

I am a centrist moderate. You are so far gone to the loony left that you
have lost all grasp of reality.

Post by The Last Doctor
resonate with you. One easy way to spot such a person: they fling the term
“PC loony leftist” at anyone with views less reactionary than Enoch Powell,
Norman Tebbitt (or, say, Goldwater and the Birchers for those of you
reading from across the water. “SJW” is their similar scent-marker.)

You are totally deranged. I have no affection for the likes of Enoch
Powell and Norman Tebbitt.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
It was a bunch of reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn’t
understand a whole lot

She was actually a moderate centrist conservative.

Or so Thatcher or Schickelgruber might have said.

I was always anti-Thatcher.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
about psychology and is railing against transgender gender reassignment.

She knows more about psychology than you do.

Definitely not, since she and you seemingly know fuck all about it.

You are the one who knows fuck all about it as has been illustrated by J
Clarke.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
These people are suffering from a psychiatric disorder

Yes. This part is correct.

So we agree on the fundamental issue.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
and any medical professional who agrees to
mutilate them the way they are demanding is guilty of medical misconduct
and [preying] on the vulnerable and should be [struck] off.

This part however is not. Contrary to your ultra conservative beliefs

I am a moderate centrist. You are so extreme left that everyone is ultra
conservative to you even the mainstream of the Labour Party.

Post by The Last Doctor
there
is nothing abnormal about their psychiatric state any more than there is

WRONG! You have agreed that they are suffering from a psychiatric
disorder therefore it follows that their psychiatric state is abnormal.

Post by The Last Doctor
about someone who is gay. It can’t be “cured” by psychiatric or chemical

People who are gay do not want to deprive themselves of their penis or
vagina nor deprive themselves of their breasts or grow them anew.

Post by The Last Doctor
means. If we had the means to fundamentally alter their DNA so that they
redeveloped physiologically to align with their mental sex then that would
be ideal; however without that biotechnical capability the best we can do
is to alllow them to live the way they choose and make such surgical
adjustments as we can to let them feel more comfortable in their bodies.

You've admitted that they are suffering from a psychiatric disorder. The
mind is so far gone that it is unable to accept the gender of the body.
Chopping bits off or adding other bits to a perfectly healthy body is
not the way of treating such as disorder. The condition is no different
to psychiatric patients who want perfectly healthy limbs amputated.
These people need to be counseled to accept the body they were born
with. That it makes no difference what they look like since they don't
have any physical deformities or dis-functionality. There's no reason
for healthy men to wear bras in order to dress like women since they
don't have any breasts to hold up. No one is stopping them from wearing
skirts. The Scots do it all the time.

All you have to do is look at the Girlyboys in places like Thailand to
describe this condition. It's predatory homosexual behavior.

Post by The Last Doctor
Your fascistic desire to force them to live as a sex they don’t identify
with is an attempt to limit their freedom and is tantamount to mental
mutilation and even torture, as can be evidenced by suicide rates among
such people when their psychological needs are denied or oppressed.

So basically you want child molesters who are also suffering from a
psychiatric disorder to be allowed to sexually molest children--as was
clearly evident from the overtones of your warped loony left Christmas
Special--because their psychological needs must not be denied or
oppressed and no one must attempt to limit their freedom nor the freedom
of psychopathic killers. You are totally deranged!

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to do with
Doctor Who.

It speak out against political correctness and shows that there is
nothing correct about it at all and is nothing more than loony left-wing
brainwashing, therefore it has every relevance to Doctor Who since it is
being used for the same despicable purpose.

You’re first of all just agreeing with a moron and then conflating that
with Doctor Who, as Dave is. The original poster that Dave dredged up
wasn’t making that utterly false connection, just ranting.

She was an intelligent woman and the connection with Doctor Who after it
was hijacked by the PC loonies is perfectly valid. Your arguments have
no logical validity at all. They're nothing more than extremist
unscientific dogma.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard as
magical because it’s beyond our knowledge) to change their form, is
absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

BULLSHIT!

OK then: demonstrate with some justification other than your usual radical
right vitriol how regeneration, an alien process of rejuvenation whose
mechanism we don’t understand, is the same as allowing someone with gender
dysphoria to live as the sex they want to be.

The Doctor has been changed into a woman for no logical reason. This has
been done solely to cater for the false dogma and ideology of the PC
loony extremists after the show has sung so far to the left that there's
nowhere remaining for it to land or land safely. There will be no reason
whatsoever plot-wise other than so-called gender dysphoria for the
Doctor to turn into a woman at all.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
Doctor Who has been politicized in [pursuit] of a bigoted,
racist, and sexist loony left agenda

You can’t find one significant bit of evidence for this in Doctor Who. It

You must be joking. It's been blatantly obvious for the past decade how
Doctor Who and its audience have been hijacked to proselytize a divisive
PC loony left agenda.

Post by The Last Doctor
does align more with the modern, more liberal views of today’s society than
those of the 1950s, but that’s not pursuing an agenda - it’s moving with
the times. That which does not evolve, stagnates.

This isn't evolution. It's regression and degeneration.

Post by The Last Doctor
(I’m not including Torchwood or Class, which did have a distinct
liberalising and pro-gay bias. But those are spinoffs on minority channels
and not Doctor Who which has maintained its mainstream, socially centrist
position. What has moved over the last thirty years is where the centre is
- see, for example, the social acceptance of gay marriage by the general
population and the recent popularity of transgender characters in TV shows.

Popularity? There is no popularity in them among the viewers at all.
It's all in the minded of the degenerate psychopathic writers and
producers and has totally alienated the general public. And as for gay
marriage, it's laughed at.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
and the viewing figures have
completely collapsed as a result.

Viewing figures have declined broadly in line with those of all long
running TV shows. There is no relationship between that and your imaginary
“PC LOONY LEFTIST” agenda

Poppycock. The ratings from the last two series fell off a cliff. A
decline of 25% in the audience in just a year between series 8 and 9 and
a fall of 33% in the audience share.

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
The way it's going it will not be long
before it is cancelled.

If Jodie’s stint is a disaster, it will be short lived but the show will
get another shot at reinvigorating itself. It makes the BBC a whole ton of
money and is an iconic brand globally, almost completely regardless of its
UK viewership. If I had to guess, I’d say that even 2 million viewers would
be enough to keep the show alive. After all, Dave (the channel, not your

LOL...!!! Because 2 million is just about the most it will get given how
many people have already been alienated and disenfranchised. A fan
production would get more than that on YouTube and that's what the BBC
are really afraid of.

Post by The Last Doctor
Canadian fellow-traveller) is keeping Red Dwarf in production on barely 2/3
of that.

Post by Agamemnon
The revolt against it has intensified with the
majority of fandom now against Chibnall and Whittaker.

There is no evidence for this. There’s a tiny vocal opposition of extreme
right wing bigots (such as personified in you and Dave (your Canadian

No. This is now a majority and these people are centrist moderates and
half of them are women.

Post by The Last Doctor
fellow-traveller, not the channel) - or “the immoral minority” for short -

You are thinking of the left wing PC loonies who allowed immorality to
carry unhindered just as long as it server their purpose.

Now it's all stating to implode and even your most famous flag bearer is
not immune.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/star-trek-actor-george-takei-11504125

Post by The Last Doctor
and a small proportion of stick-in-the-mud old Whovians. You’re all
entitled to your opinions, and more than entitled to abandon Doctor Who and
seek out TV shows that align to your prejudices or rewatch old McCoy
episodes on DVD.

So you want to torture us even more?

Post by The Last Doctor
In the meantime, Doctor Who with Jodie Whittaker is in production and we’ll
see what that’s like this time next year. I’m looking forward to it
hopefully but without huge expectations, and I could well end up
disappointed. But having not seen it, I won’t know that for a year or so. I
don’t condemn things I know nothing about out of hand.

The point is everyone now admits it's heading towards a disaster except
the three golden monkeys, the BBC, Chibnall, and Whittaker.

The production should be stopped, Chibnall and his cronies should be
sacked, and a new producer and production team appointed to choose a new
Doctor and new companions and provide a family entertainment show and
not a pulpit for divisive and inflammatory PC loony left extremism.

You claim the BBC wanted Doctor Who to change with the times. Well that
change means it has to take on a conservative tone. The last shift away
from the conservative center by JNT got the show promptly cancelled.

[The Doctor]

Post by Agamemnon

[Snip rabid load of bigoted crap. I re-posted it once, that’s more than
enough].

There was nothing rabid or bigoted about it at all. Your reply is the
prime example of rabid and bigoted crap.

Post by Agamemnon

Dave, that disturbed rant wasn’t about Doctor Who.

There was nothing disturbed about it at all. It was totally logical and
coherent unlike you PC loony leftists.

Well, as a rabid, disturbed ultra-conservative yourself, of course it would

I am a centrist moderate. You are so far gone to the loony left that you
have lost all grasp of reality.

Same here. Ag and I belong to many FB DW realted groups.

Post by Agamemnon

resonate with you. One easy way to spot such a person: they fling the term
“PC loony leftist” at anyone with views less reactionary than

Enoch Powell,

Norman Tebbitt (or, say, Goldwater and the Birchers for those of you
reading from across the water. “SJW” is their similar scent-marker.)

You are totally deranged. I have no affection for the likes of Enoch
Powell and Norman Tebbitt.

Same here.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by Agamemnon

It was a bunch of reactionary bile from a far right bigot who doesn’t
understand a whole lot

She was actually a moderate centrist conservative.

Or so Thatcher or Schickelgruber might have said.

I was always anti-Thatcher.

And MAy endorseing Whittker is a desparation move.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by Agamemnon

about psychology and is railing against transgender gender reassignment.

She knows more about psychology than you do.

Definitely not, since she and you seemingly know fuck all about it.

You are the one who knows f*k all about it as has been illustrated by J
Clarke.

You got that right.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by Agamemnon
These people are suffering from a psychiatric disorder

Yes. This part is correct.

So we agree on the fundamental issue.

Someone caught Mike is a contradiction.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by Agamemnon
and any medical professional who agrees to
mutilate them the way they are demanding is guilty of medical misconduct
and [preying] on the vulnerable and should be [struck] off.

This part however is not. Contrary to your ultra conservative beliefs

I am a moderate centrist. You are so extreme left that everyone is ultra
conservative to you even the mainstream of the Labour Party.

Sad but true.

Post by Agamemnon

there
is nothing abnormal about their psychiatric state any more than there is

WRONG! You have agreed that they are suffering from a psychiatric
disorder therefore it follows that their psychiatric state is abnormal.

Hear! Hear!!

Post by Agamemnon

about someone who is gay. It can’t be “cured” by psychiatric or chemical

People who are gay do not want to deprive themselves of their penis or
vagina nor deprive themselves of their breasts or grow them anew.

Got you.

Post by Agamemnon

means. If we had the means to fundamentally alter their DNA so that they
redeveloped physiologically to align with their mental sex then that would
be ideal; however without that biotechnical capability the best we can do
is to alllow them to live the way they choose and make such surgical
adjustments as we can to let them feel more comfortable in their bodies.

You've admitted that they are suffering from a psychiatric disorder. The
mind is so far gone that it is unable to accept the gender of the body.
Chopping bits off or adding other bits to a perfectly healthy body is
not the way of treating such as disorder. The condition is no different
to psychiatric patients who want perfectly healthy limbs amputated.
These people need to be counseled to accept the body they were born
with. That it makes no difference what they look like since they don't
have any physical deformities or dis-functionality. There's no reason
for healthy men to wear bras in order to dress like women since they
don't have any breasts to hold up. No one is stopping them from wearing
skirts. The Scots do it all the time.
All you have to do is look at the Girlyboys in places like Thailand to
describe this condition. It's predatory homosexual behavior.

Exactly!!

Post by Agamemnon

Your fascistic desire to force them to live as a sex they don’t identify
with is an attempt to limit their freedom and is tantamount to mental
mutilation and even torture, as can be evidenced by suicide rates among
such people when their psychological needs are denied or oppressed.

So basically you want child molesters who are also suffering from a
psychiatric disorder to be allowed to sexually molest children--as was
clearly evident from the overtones of your warped loony left Christmas
Special--because their psychological needs must not be denied or
oppressed and no one must attempt to limit their freedom nor the freedom
of psychopathic killers. You are totally deranged!

Correct you are!

Post by Agamemnon

Post by Agamemnon

Which, regardless of how moronic and bigoted it is, has nothing to do with
Doctor Who.

It speak out against political correctness and shows that there is
nothing correct about it at all and is nothing more than loony left-wing
brainwashing, therefore it has every relevance to Doctor Who since it is
being used for the same despicable purpose.

You’re first of all just agreeing with a moron and then conflating that
with Doctor Who, as Dave is. The original poster that Dave dredged up
wasn’t making that utterly false connection, just ranting.

She was an intelligent woman and the connection with Doctor Who after it
was hijacked by the PC loonies is perfectly valid. Your arguments have
no logical validity at all. They're nothing more than extremist
unscientific dogma.

You and must in the same group AGAmemnon.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by Agamemnon

An alien that uses an advanced scientific process (that we regard as
magical because it’s beyond our knowledge) to change their form, is
absolutely nothing to do with human gender reassignment.

BULLS*T!

OK then: demonstrate with some justification other than your usual radical
right vitriol how regeneration, an alien process of rejuvenation whose
mechanism we don’t understand, is the same as allowing someone with gender
dysphoria to live as the sex they want to be.

The Doctor has been changed into a woman for no logical reason. This has
been done solely to cater for the false dogma and ideology of the PC
loony extremists after the show has sung so far to the left that there's
nowhere remaining for it to land or land safely. There will be no reason
whatsoever plot-wise other than so-called gender dysphoria for the
Doctor to turn into a woman at all.

How coreupt can a regeneration become?

Post by Agamemnon

Post by Agamemnon
Doctor Who has been politicized in [pursuit] of a bigoted,
racist, and sexist loony left agenda

You can’t find one significant bit of evidence for this in Doctor Who. It

You must be joking. It's been blatantly obvious for the past decade how
Doctor Who and its audience have been hijacked to proselytize a divisive
PC loony left agenda.

Exctly what the Original Poster I quoted from said.

Post by Agamemnon

does align more with the modern, more liberal views of today’s society than
those of the 1950s, but that’s not pursuing an agenda - it’s moving with
the times. That which does not evolve, stagnates.

This isn't evolution. It's regression and degeneration.

Hear! Hear!!

Post by Agamemnon

(I’m not including Torchwood or Class, which did have a distinct
liberalising and pro-gay bias. But those are spinoffs on minority channels
and not Doctor Who which has maintained its mainstream, socially centrist
position. What has moved over the last thirty years is where the centre is
- see, for example, the social acceptance of gay marriage by the general
population and the recent popularity of transgender characters in TV shows.

Popularity? There is no popularity in them among the viewers at all.
It's all in the minded of the degenerate psychopathic writers and
producers and has totally alienated the general public. And as for gay
marriage, it's laughed at.

Downwards spiral.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by Agamemnon
and the viewing figures have
completely collapsed as a result.

Viewing figures have declined broadly in line with those of all long
running TV shows. There is no relationship between that and your imaginary
“PC LOONY LEFTIST” agenda

Poppycock. The ratings from the last two series fell off a cliff. A
decline of 25% in the audience in just a year between series 8 and 9 and
a fall of 33% in the audience share.

I saw the graphic

Post by Agamemnon

Post by Agamemnon
The way it's going it will not be long
before it is cancelled.

If Jodie’s stint is a disaster, it will be short lived but the show will
get another shot at reinvigorating itself. It makes the BBC a whole ton of
money and is an iconic brand globally, almost completely regardless of its
UK viewership. If I had to guess, I’d say that even 2 million viewers would
be enough to keep the show alive. After all, Dave (the channel, not your

LOL...!!! Because 2 million is just about the most it will get given how
many people have already been alienated and disenfranchised. A fan
production would get more than that on YouTube and that's what the BBC
are really afraid of.

IT is getting there.

Post by Agamemnon

Canadian fellow-traveller) is keeping Red Dwarf in production on barely 2/3
of that.

Post by Agamemnon
The revolt against it has intensified with the
majority of fandom now against Chibnall and Whittaker.

There is no evidence for this. There’s a tiny vocal opposition of extreme
right wing bigots (such as personified in you and Dave (your Canadian

No. This is now a majority and these people are centrist moderates and
half of them are women.

And even a group of antiChibnalls are organising.

Post by Agamemnon

fellow-traveller, not the channel) - or “the immoral minority” for short -

You are thinking of the left wing PC loonies who allowed immorality to
carry unhindered just as long as it server their purpose.
Now it's all stating to implode and even your most famous flag bearer is
not immune.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/star-trek-actor-george-takei-11504125

Noted.

Post by Agamemnon

and a small proportion of stick-in-the-mud old Whovians. You’re all
entitled to your opinions, and more than entitled to abandon Doctor Who and
seek out TV shows that align to your prejudices or rewatch old McCoy
episodes on DVD.

So you want to torture us even more?

He is asking for it.

Post by Agamemnon

In the meantime, Doctor Who with Jodie Whittaker is in production and we’ll
see what that’s like this time next year. I’m looking forward to it
hopefully but without huge expectations, and I could well end up
disappointed. But having not seen it, I won’t know that for a year or so. I
don’t condemn things I know nothing about out of hand.

The point is everyone now admits it's heading towards a disaster except
the three golden monkeys, the BBC, Chibnall, and Whittaker.
The production should be stopped, Chibnall and his cronies should be
sacked, and a new producer and production team appointed to choose a new
Doctor and new companions and provide a family entertainment show and
not a pulpit for divisive and inflammatory PC loony left extremism.
You claim the BBC wanted Doctor Who to change with the times. Well that
change means it has to take on a conservative tone. The last shift away
from the conservative center by JNT got the show promptly cancelled.

The Disaster can be averted! Chibnall and Whittaker out now!!

[Agamemnon]

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
and the viewing figures have
completely collapsed as a result.

Viewing figures have declined broadly in line with those of all long
running TV shows. There is no relationship between that and your imaginary
“PC LOONY LEFTIST” agenda

Poppycock. The ratings from the last two series fell off a cliff. A
decline of 25% in the audience in just a year between series 8 and 9 and
a fall of 33% in the audience share.

I saw the graphic

And did you notice how the admins deleted the entire thread when the
loony left posters' argument that Doctor Who has been going from
strength to strength was being totally cut down by the sane moderate
conservative posters who pointed to the graph? The loony left were
totally in disbelief and in denial that the statistics showed what they did.

Also did you notice how the admins are constantly allowing through
inflammatory pro-Whittaker content but never give the opposing moderate
posters a chance to submit their views.

Even with that it is clear now that after the reveal of the costume the
majority of fans are against Whittaker, Chibnall, and the loony left.

The costume was the final nail and gave people the change to post their
true opinions without being branded sexist or racists, or homophobic.

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
The way it's going it will not be long
before it is cancelled.

If Jodie’s stint is a disaster, it will be short lived but the show will
get another shot at reinvigorating itself. It makes the BBC a whole ton of
money and is an iconic brand globally, almost completely regardless of its
UK viewership. If I had to guess, I’d say that even 2 million viewers would
be enough to keep the show alive. After all, Dave (the channel, not your

LOL...!!! Because 2 million is just about the most it will get given how
many people have already been alienated and disenfranchised. A fan
production would get more than that on YouTube and that's what the BBC
are really afraid of.

IT is getting there.

The way things are heading a crowd funded fan made production is going
to be the only way to save the show.

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
Canadian fellow-traveller) is keeping Red Dwarf in production on barely 2/3
of that.

Post by Agamemnon
The revolt against it has intensified with the
majority of fandom now against Chibnall and Whittaker.

There is no evidence for this. There’s a tiny vocal opposition of extreme
right wing bigots (such as personified in you and Dave (your Canadian

No. This is now a majority and these people are centrist moderates and
half of them are women.

And even a group of antiChibnalls are organising.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
fellow-traveller, not the channel) - or “the immoral minority” for short -

You are thinking of the left wing PC loonies who allowed immorality to
carry unhindered just as long as it server their purpose.
Now it's all stating to implode and even your most famous flag bearer is
not immune.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/star-trek-actor-george-takei-11504125

Noted.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
and a small proportion of stick-in-the-mud old Whovians. You’re all
entitled to your opinions, and more than entitled to abandon Doctor Who and
seek out TV shows that align to your prejudices or rewatch old McCoy
episodes on DVD.

So you want to torture us even more?

He is asking for it.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
In the meantime, Doctor Who with Jodie Whittaker is in production and we’ll
see what that’s like this time next year. I’m looking forward to it
hopefully but without huge expectations, and I could well end up
disappointed. But having not seen it, I won’t know that for a year or so. I
don’t condemn things I know nothing about out of hand.

The point is everyone now admits it's heading towards a disaster except
the three golden monkeys, the BBC, Chibnall, and Whittaker.
The production should be stopped, Chibnall and his cronies should be
sacked, and a new producer and production team appointed to choose a new
Doctor and new companions and provide a family entertainment show and
not a pulpit for divisive and inflammatory PC loony left extremism.
You claim the BBC wanted Doctor Who to change with the times. Well that
change means it has to take on a conservative tone. The last shift away
from the conservative center by JNT got the show promptly cancelled.

The Disaster can be averted! Chibnall and Whittaker out now!!

I might now be too late to save the show.

What was going through the minds of the BBC heads when they commissioned
Chibnall to take the show even further to the extreme left when it could
be seen a mile away on the event horizon of a black hole that this was
killing the show? Didn't they watch Class? Of course they didn't. No one
did! And that's the point. No one watched it because it was devised as
extreme loony left propaganda not as entertainment.

The only way Doctor Who could have been saved, if the BBC had any sense
in their pin heads, is for it to have been brought back to the
conservative center where the majority of viewers reside. Don't any of
them have the remotest clue?

[The Doctor]

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
and the viewing figures have
completely collapsed as a result.

Viewing figures have declined broadly in line with those of all long
running TV shows. There is no relationship between that and your imaginary
“PC LOONY LEFTIST” agenda

Poppycock. The ratings from the last two series fell off a cliff. A
decline of 25% in the audience in just a year between series 8 and 9 and
a fall of 33% in the audience share.

I saw the graphic

And did you notice how the admins deleted the entire thread when the
loony left posters' argument that Doctor Who has been going from
strength to strength was being totally cut down by the sane moderate
conservative posters who pointed to the graph? The loony left were
totally in disbelief and in denial that the statistics showed what they did.

They deny what is real.

Post by Agamemnon
Also did you notice how the admins are constantly allowing through
inflammatory pro-Whittaker content but never give the opposing moderate
posters a chance to submit their views.

Some yes. I belong to nuumber of groups and some admins are standing up
against this tripe. Some of the pro-Whittaker lunatic admins are making
their stance know.

Post by Agamemnon
Even with that it is clear now that after the reveal of the costume the
majority of fans are against Whittaker, Chibnall, and the loony left.

The whole schmozzle you mean. I call for a police warrant to be served
against Whittaker and Chibnall for the attempted murder of Doctor Who.

Post by Agamemnon
The costume was the final nail and gave people the change to post their
true opinions without being branded sexist or racists, or homophobic.

Especially the stripes more represnting the LGBT flag than it doe TBaker's scarf

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
The way it's going it will not be long
before it is cancelled.

If Jodie’s stint is a disaster, it will be short lived but

the show will

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
get another shot at reinvigorating itself. It makes the BBC a whole ton of
money and is an iconic brand globally, almost completely regardless of its
UK viewership. If I had to guess, I’d say that even 2 million

viewers would

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
be enough to keep the show alive. After all, Dave (the channel, not your

LOL...!!! Because 2 million is just about the most it will get given how
many people have already been alienated and disenfranchised. A fan
production would get more than that on YouTube and that's what the BBC
are really afraid of.

IT is getting there.

The way things are heading a crowd funded fan made production is going
to be the only way to save the show.

Point well taken.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
Canadian fellow-traveller) is keeping Red Dwarf in production on barely 2/3
of that.

Post by Agamemnon
The revolt against it has intensified with the
majority of fandom now against Chibnall and Whittaker.

There is no evidence for this. There’s a tiny vocal

opposition of extreme

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
right wing bigots (such as personified in you and Dave (your Canadian

No. This is now a majority and these people are centrist moderates and
half of them are women.

And even a group of antiChibnalls are organising.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
fellow-traveller, not the channel) - or “the immoral

minority” for short -

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon
You are thinking of the left wing PC loonies who allowed immorality to
carry unhindered just as long as it server their purpose.
Now it's all stating to implode and even your most famous flag bearer is
not immune.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/star-trek-actor-george-takei-11504125

Post by The Doctor
Noted.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
and a small proportion of stick-in-the-mud old Whovians. You’re all
entitled to your opinions, and more than entitled to abandon Doctor Who and
seek out TV shows that align to your prejudices or rewatch old McCoy
episodes on DVD.

So you want to torture us even more?

He is asking for it.

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
In the meantime, Doctor Who with Jodie Whittaker is in production

and we’ll

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
see what that’s like this time next year. I’m looking

forward to it

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
hopefully but without huge expectations, and I could well end up
disappointed. But having not seen it, I won’t know that for a

year or so. I

Post by The Doctor

Post by Agamemnon

Post by The Last Doctor
don’t condemn things I know nothing about out of hand.

The point is everyone now admits it's heading towards a disaster except
the three golden monkeys, the BBC, Chibnall, and Whittaker.
The production should be stopped, Chibnall and his cronies should be
sacked, and a new producer and production team appointed to choose a new
Doctor and new companions and provide a family entertainment show and
not a pulpit for divisive and inflammatory PC loony left extremism.
You claim the BBC wanted Doctor Who to change with the times. Well that
change means it has to take on a conservative tone. The last shift away
from the conservative center by JNT got the show promptly cancelled.

The Disaster can be averted! Chibnall and Whittaker out now!!

I might now be too late to save the show.
What was going through the minds of the BBC heads when they commissioned
Chibnall to take the show even further to the extreme left when it could
be seen a mile away on the event horizon of a black hole that this was
killing the show? Didn't they watch Class? Of course they didn't. No one
did! And that's the point. No one watched it because it was devised as
extreme loony left propaganda not as entertainment.

Just remember what Powell did to JN-T in 1989/1990. Chball could ace the
same fate anyday soon.

Post by Agamemnon
The only way Doctor Who could have been saved, if the BBC had any sense
in their pin heads, is for it to have been brought back to the
conservative center where the majority of viewers reside. Don't any of
them have the remotest clue?

No.

[Ubiquitous]

Post by The Doctor
Frankly, I don't think some people realize just how sadistic the Radical Left are! Those who sadly think they were born the wrong sex/gender don't realize that this is an scientific impossibility. And never mind abou
Now if you'll forgive me for sounding a bit insulting but there are those on the Radical Left with High IQ'S but no common sense (hence the term pinhead) who think of themselves as the "Intellectually elite" and thos
This is of course PURE BILE!! Conservatives do not hate those who are different (90% do not! as for the 10%? You can find that sort in ANY group!!) we actually feel sorry for them and actually want to help them. We s
People who think they're the wrong sex need psychiatric help! Not some sick plastic surgery. And many feel just as depressed as they did before the operation. And it has NOTHING to with any religious or political gro

Please do not post articles while drunk.

[The Doctor]

Post by The Doctor

Post by The Doctor
Frankly, I don't think some people realize just how sadistic the

Radical Left are! Those who sadly think they were born the wrong
sex/gender don't realize that this is an scientific impossibility. And
never mind abou

Post by The Doctor
Now if you'll forgive me for sounding a bit insulting but there are

those on the Radical Left with High IQ'S but no common sense (hence the
term pinhead) who think of themselves as the "Intellectually elite" and
thos

Post by The Doctor
This is of course PURE BILE!! Conservatives do not hate those who are

different (90% do not! as for the 10%? You can find that sort in ANY
group!!) we actually feel sorry for them and actually want to help them.
We s

Post by The Doctor
People who think they're the wrong sex need psychiatric help! Not some

sick plastic surgery. And many feel just as depressed as they did before
the operation. And it has NOTHING to with any religious or political gro
Please do not post articles while drunk.

I never drink.

Post by The Doctor
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Dems & the media want Trump to be more like Obama, but then he'd
have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.