Computer / radio isolation for digital (or even voice?)

Post by Gareth's Downstairs Computer
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio-Transformers-600-600-Ohm-Europe-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2

That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer to
isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC (extracting the
audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV and DRM pictures
using MMSTV and Easypal).

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Brian Reay

2018-02-09 22:03:49 UTC

It is, I ordered a pack this morning. At that price cheap enough for stock.

I have some on surplus/scrap boards which came my way (I think part of
the odd digital PMR radio system 'National One' when the local unit was
scrapped) but, unsoldering them is a pain. At under £2.50 for 10, inc
postage, it isn't worth it.

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Brian Reay

2018-02-09 22:06:41 UTC

BTW, did you know you are also supposedly a moderator for ulm, sorry a
tame moderator for ulm?

Ian Jackson

2018-02-09 22:15:16 UTC

That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer
to isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC
(extracting the audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV
and DRM pictures using MMSTV and Easypal).

BTW, did you know you are also supposedly a moderator for ulm, sorry a
tame moderator for ulm?

No!

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Brian Reay

2018-02-10 07:36:15 UTC

That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio transformer
to isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and the PC
(extracting the audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV
and DRM pictures using MMSTV and Easypal).

BTW, did you know you are also supposedly a moderator for ulm, sorry a
tame moderator for ulm?

No!

See unnm 5 Feb 20:59

Poster is referring to ulm mod who also, supposedly, posts here.

Poster is 'fond of' namesakes.

I have offered to assist your namesake join the hobby.

Brian Howie

2018-02-10 09:11:16 UTC

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio-Transformers-600-600-Ohm-Europe>>>>>-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash>>>>>=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2

That's a fantastic price. I'm using a 600/600 ohm audio
transformer to isolate an earth-loop problem between the rig and
(extracting the audio to feed into the sound card so I can get SSTV
and DRM pictures using MMSTV and Easypal).

BTW, did you know you are also supposedly a moderator for ulm, sorry
a tame moderator for ulm?

No!

See unnm 5 Feb 20:59
Poster is referring to ulm mod who also, supposedly, posts here.
Poster is 'fond of' namesakes.
I have offered to assist your namesake join the hobby.

I assumed that was Mike Tomlinson an erstwhile ukra poster. You're
confusing our Ian Jackson with the urcm moderator, unless our Ian is a
closet cyclist.

Http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~webstump/aside-index.html

Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

Brian

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Brian Howie

Brian Reay

2018-02-10 09:35:19 UTC

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/10x-Audio-Transformers-600-600-Ohm-Europe>>>>>-1-1
-EI14-Isolation-Transformer-Newest/172824007609?epid=2184088304&hash>>>>>=ite
m283d1d13b9:g:d2EAAOSwDmtZlWH2

BTW, did you know you are also supposedly a moderator for ulm, sorry
a tame moderator for ulm?

No!

See unnm 5 Feb 20:59
Poster is referring to ulm mod who also, supposedly, posts here.
Poster is 'fond of' namesakes.
I have offered to assist your namesake join the hobby.

I assumed that was Mike Tomlinson an erstwhile ukra poster. You're
confusing our Ian Jackson with the urcm moderator, unless our Ian is a
closet cyclist.

Mike isn't involved.

The 'confusion' is as you describe but not on Mike's or my part.
Another of Cummins' panic accusations.

If you read the transcripts referenced elsewhere, you will see
references to similar wild accusations etc.

Paul Cummins

2018-02-10 10:30:00 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
If you read the transcripts referenced elsewhere, you will see
references to similar wild accusations etc.

Yes, wild accusations made by a debt collection company against an
individual and company that costs them money every day.

But then Reay only ever takes one side of a story.

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Brian Reay

2018-02-10 11:21:58 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
If you read the transcripts referenced elsewhere, you will see
references to similar wild accusations etc.

Yes, wild accusations made by a debt collection company against an
individual and company that costs them money every day.

The Judge didn't see it that way, nor the Barrister.

Paul Cummins

2018-02-10 11:34:00 UTC

Post by Paul Cummins
Yes, wild accusations made by a debt collection company against an
individual and company that costs them money every day.

The Judge didn't see it that way, nor the Barrister.

So why not produce the September transcript? Or the December order? After
all, if they support your position, you'd be producing them right now.

Brian Reay

2018-02-10 11:41:45 UTC

Post by Paul Cummins
Yes, wild accusations made by a debt collection company against an
individual and company that costs them money every day.

The Judge didn't see it that way, nor the Barrister.

So why not produce the September transcript? Or the December order? After
all, if they support your position, you'd be producing them right now.

You are the only one who claims the exist.

You need to prove they do, not me.

As you aren't, then they clearly don't exist.

Paul Cummins

2018-02-10 12:13:00 UTC

Post by Paul Cummins
So why not produce the September transcript? Or the December

order? After

Post by Paul Cummins
all, if they support your position, you'd be producing them right now.

You are the only one who claims the exist.
You need to prove they do, not me.

You are the one running all over Usenet, libelling an established company
and a well-respected court advocate, you need to prove your case.

The fact that the transcripts you are producing refer to a September
hearing, but you don't have ANY detail of it, is telling.

Brian Reay

2018-02-10 12:36:27 UTC

Post by Paul Cummins
So why not produce the September transcript? Or the December

order? After

Post by Paul Cummins
all, if they support your position, you'd be producing them right now.

You are the only one who claims the exist.
You need to prove they do, not me.

You are the one running all over Usenet, libelling an established company
and a well-respected court advocate, you need to prove your case.
The fact that the transcripts you are producing refer to a September
hearing, but you don't have ANY detail of it, is telling.

You are bluffing.

Look at the date on the appeal ruling.

You've been caught out, again.

Paul Cummins

2018-02-10 13:47:00 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
Look at the date on the appeal ruling.

The appeals ruling is not the September costs hearing.

Post by Brian Reay
You've been caught out, again.

I think not, Inspector Clueless.

Brian Reay

2018-02-10 12:32:04 UTC

Post by Paul Cummins
Yes, wild accusations made by a debt collection company against an
individual and company that costs them money every day.

The Judge didn't see it that way, nor the Barrister.

So why not produce the September transcript? Or the December order? After
all, if they support your position, you'd be producing them right now.

You are the only one who claims the exist.
You need to prove they do, not me.
As you aren't, then they clearly don't exist.

No response?

To be clear, you are claiming the was another hearing in Sept which Mr
Wilkie would have attended and the costs were changed?

Yes or No.

If yes, produce the evidence or be proven a liar.

Paul Cummins

2018-02-10 13:47:00 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
No response?
To be clear, you are claiming the was another hearing in Sept which
Mr Wilkie would have attended and the costs were changed?

No, I am claiming that YOUR OWN EVIDENCE states that the judge will be
having a hearing in september where Mr Wilkie would have attended and
made representations on costs.

Your own evidence - so produce that hearing transcript, which is
different to the appeal hearing.

Also, the order you produces is not valid. Produce a valid one, certified
by the judge.

Or decide that you have dug a big enough hole...

Brian Reay

2018-02-10 14:04:30 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
No response?
To be clear, you are claiming the was another hearing in Sept which
Mr Wilkie would have attended and the costs were changed?

No, I am claiming that YOUR OWN EVIDENCE states that the judge will be
having a hearing in september where Mr Wilkie would have attended and
made representations on costs.
Your own evidence - so produce that hearing transcript, which is
different to the appeal hearing.
Also, the order you produces is not valid. Produce a valid one, certified
by the judge.
Or decide that you have dug a big enough hole...

Doesn't work like that Cummins, especially as the Appeal is dated in Oct.

So, unless you can produce something, you are caught out.

Just like on all the other points.

Paul Cummins

2018-02-10 15:44:00 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
Doesn't work like that Cummins,

OK - let me explain this to you simply.

YOU make the claim, YOU provide the evidence.

Your own "transcript" claims that there is to be a hearing in September.

The Appeal was an appeal against the judgment in July, not against the
hearing in September. That's what the Appeal transcript says, BTW.

So produce the hearing in September's transcript, where costs are to be
finally settled, or be shown to be nothing but a shite-stirring
cock-womble apron-wearing twat.

Do you really think that libelling a company is the best way to spend
your "autumn years" especially when we here already know, from your own
admission, that you have been transferring assets to evade any court
orders?

Brian Reay

2018-02-10 16:06:34 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
Doesn't work like that Cummins,

You sound a bit rattled.

You've proven nothing, other than you can't back up your claims.

Post by Paul Cummins
Do you really think that libelling a company is the best way to spend
your "autumn years" especially when we here already know, from your own
admission, that you have been transferring assets to evade any court
orders?

What admissions would those be, other than in your vivid imagination
that is?

Paul Cummins

2018-02-10 17:02:00 UTC

Post by Paul Cummins
Do you really think that libelling a company is the best way to

spend

Post by Paul Cummins
your "autumn years" especially when we here already know, from your own
admission, that you have been transferring assets to evade any court
orders?

What admissions would those be, other than in your vivid
imagination that is?

Misremembering your own posts. Good.

Brian Reay

2018-02-10 17:45:25 UTC

Post by Paul Cummins
Do you really think that libelling a company is the best way to

spend

Post by Paul Cummins
your "autumn years" especially when we here already know, from your own
admission, that you have been transferring assets to evade any court
orders?

What admissions would those be, other than in your vivid
imagination that is?

Misremembering your own posts. Good.

If I were you, I'd get some dandruff shampoo. Someone who confirmed the
photo commented on it.

Paul Cummins

2018-02-10 18:19:00 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
If I were you, I'd get some dandruff shampoo. Someone who confirmed
the photo commented on it.

in which case, you confirmed the wrong photo.

I'm bald.

Brian Reay

2018-02-10 18:24:18 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
If I were you, I'd get some dandruff shampoo. Someone who confirmed
the photo commented on it.

in which case, you confirmed the wrong photo.
I'm bald.

Bluffing again.

Rambo

2018-02-11 00:24:34 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
If I were you, I'd get some dandruff shampoo. Someone who confirmed
the photo commented on it.

in which case, you confirmed the wrong photo.
I'm bald.

Bluffing again.

How can someone bluff about being bald......

Oh wait you wear a wig LOL

FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI

2018-02-11 12:36:20 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
If I were you, I'd get some dandruff shampoo. Someone who confirmed
the photo commented on it.

in which case, you confirmed the wrong photo.
I'm bald.

Bluffing again.

How can someone bluff about being bald......
Oh wait you wear a wig LOL

I've still got one of my old passports from 1971. Where did all that
shoulder length hair go?

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mm0fmf

2018-02-11 12:52:06 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
If I were you, I'd get some dandruff shampoo. Someone who confirmed
the photo commented on it.

in which case, you confirmed the wrong photo.
I'm bald.

Bluffing again.

How can someone bluff about being bald......
Oh wait you wear a wig LOL

I've still got one of my old passports from 1971. Where did all that
shoulder length hair go?

Rambo bluffs about having a FULL licence.

Brian Reay

2018-02-11 13:07:15 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
If I were you, I'd get some dandruff shampoo. Someone who confirmed
the photo commented on it.

in which case, you confirmed the wrong photo.
I'm bald.

Bluffing again.

How can someone bluff about being bald......
Oh wait you wear a wig LOL

I've still got one of my old passports from 1971. Where did all that
shoulder length hair go?

Rambo bluffs about having a FULL licence.

Cummins bluffs all the time, he isn't even up to Rambo's standard.

Brian Howie

2018-02-11 13:12:47 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
If I were you, I'd get some dandruff shampoo. Someone who confirmed
the photo commented on it.

in which case, you confirmed the wrong photo.
I'm bald.

Bluffing again.

How can someone bluff about being bald......
Oh wait you wear a wig LOL

I've still got one of my old passports from 1971. Where did all that
shoulder length hair go?

Loading Image...

Eat your heart out David Bedford.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/15/article-1278687-0998843C000005D
C-616_306x587.jpg

I've still got my hair , but it's shorter and grey.

Brian

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Brian Reay

2018-02-11 13:20:34 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
If I were you, I'd get some dandruff shampoo. Someone who confirmed
the photo commented on it.

in which case, you confirmed the wrong photo.
I'm bald.

Bluffing again.

How can someone bluff about being bald......
Oh wait you wear a wig LOL

I've still got one of my old passports from 1971. Where did all that
shoulder length hair go?

Http://www.b-howie.demon.co.uk/laser_flasher.jpg
Eat your heart out David Bedford.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/05/15/article-1278687-0998843C000005D
C-616_306x587.jpg

Goatie beards seem to have been popular.

Post by Brian Howie
I've still got my hair , but it's shorter and grey.

Indeed, although I've had short even at Uni.

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2018-02-11 13:22:30 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
If I were you, I'd get some dandruff shampoo. Someone who confirmed
the photo commented on it.

in which case, you confirmed the wrong photo.
I'm bald.

Bluffing again.

How can someone bluff about being bald......
Oh wait you wear a wig LOL

I've still got one of my old passports from 1971. Where did all that
shoulder length hair go?

the way of all flesh.....unless you get a wig like brian .....

Brian Reay

2018-02-11 08:01:46 UTC

Post by Paul Cummins
Do you really think that libelling a company is the best way to

spend

Post by Paul Cummins
your "autumn years" especially when we here already know, from your own
admission, that you have been transferring assets to evade any court
orders?

What admissions would those be, other than in your vivid
imagination that is?

Misremembering your own posts. Good.

Then you can produce the posts. But you can't, just like you can't
produce evidence of the supposed Sept hearing that never happened.

What happened to the offer to swallow the costs, BTW?

Brian Reay

2018-02-11 08:27:26 UTC

Post by Paul Cummins
Do you really think that libelling a company is the best way to

spend

Post by Paul Cummins
your "autumn years" especially when we here already know, from your own
admission, that you have been transferring assets to evade any court
orders?

What admissions would those be, other than in your vivid
imagination that is?

Misremembering your own posts. Good.

Then you can produce the posts. But you can't, just like you can't
produce evidence of the supposed Sept hearing that never happened.
What happened to the offer to swallow the costs, BTW?

Post 83 here:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=114690&hl=indigo%20win&st=80

Post 5:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=102756&hl=hilsden

Post 19:

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=99785&st=0&p=1174152&

Oh look at Companies House!

Another alias and an address & look at the dates of birth.

You do let you mouth, or keyboard, give you away. All in the public domain.

I'd not be surprised if those you go up against have found it as well.

Paul Cummins

2018-02-11 11:46:00 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
What happened to the offer to swallow the costs, BTW?

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=114690&hl=indigo%20win
&st=80

Read the post - If he is joined, he'll swallow the costs. But he hadn't
been joined.

Post by Brian Reay
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=102756&hl=hilsden

A two year old comment, which shows I wasn't involved in the company even
then.

Post by Brian Reay
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=99785&st=0&p=1174152&

Which proves MY point, not yours. Wouldn't it be clever of me to have
pre-posted this two years before you started stalking me on pepipoo, just
to proe you wrong?

You really don't get it, do you?

Brian Reay

2018-02-11 11:58:22 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
What happened to the offer to swallow the costs, BTW?

http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=114690&hl=indigo%20win
&st=80

Read the post - If he is joined, he'll swallow the costs. But he hadn't
been joined.

Post by Brian Reay
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=102756&hl=hilsden

A two year old comment, which shows I wasn't involved in the company even
then.

Post by Brian Reay
http://forums.pepipoo.com/index.php?showtopic=99785&st=0&p=1174152&

Which proves MY point, not yours. Wouldn't it be clever of me to have
pre-posted this two years before you started stalking me on pepipoo, just
to proe you wrong?
You really don't get it, do you?

Your bluffing get less convincing day by day.

Don't forget the cost discussion transcript.

Your imaginary Sept hearing didn't happen.

Paul Cummins

2018-02-11 12:30:00 UTC

Post by Paul Cummins
You really don't get it, do you?

Your bluffing get less convincing day by day.
Don't forget the cost discussion transcript.
Your imaginary Sept hearing didn't happen.

Yawn

Tell someone who cares, like a Policeman.

You can hand over your dossier at the same time, and try to get me "done"
for so many things.

Oh wait... you already tried that, and got absolutely nowhere.

Paul Cummins

2018-02-11 11:46:00 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
What happened to the offer to swallow the costs, BTW?

You need to ask that of Mr Wilkie.

Bernie

2018-02-10 17:55:55 UTC

On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 09:11:16 +0000

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?
Brian

Don't be silly.

Brian Reay

2018-02-10 18:05:41 UTC

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 09:11:16 +0000

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?
Brian

Don't be silly.

I've given him a way out, he chose not to take it.

mm0fmf

2018-02-10 18:29:28 UTC

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 09:11:16 +0000

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?
Brian

Don't be silly.

Anyway, they started it.

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2018-02-11 13:18:37 UTC

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 09:11:16 +0000

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?
Brian

Don't be silly.

Anyway, they started it.

the bad boys always start it .....

Catweazel

2018-02-11 14:56:25 UTC

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 09:11:16 +0000

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?
Brian

Don't be silly.

Anyway, they started it.

the bad boys always start it .....

..and then run away ?

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2018-02-11 15:01:17 UTC

Post by Catweazel

Post by Bernie
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 09:11:16 +0000

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?
Brian

Don't be silly.

Anyway, they started it.

the bad boys always start it .....

..and then run away ?

yes ....the fat boys like reay anf FMF couldn't catch us ....tee hee

Stephen Thomas Cole

2018-02-11 17:13:10 UTC

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

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http://twitter.com/ukradioamateur

Ian Jackson

2018-02-11 17:27:42 UTC

In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the outside world
thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

--
Ian

mm0fmf

2018-02-11 17:34:39 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the outside world
thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

You should ask that of those that started it Ian.

Roger Hayter

2018-02-11 19:51:25 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the outside world
thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

You should ask that of those that started it Ian.

That *is* the usual first step in an argument between 6 year olds.
Some adults can do better.

--
Roger Hayter

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2018-02-11 20:04:04 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the outside world
thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

You should ask that of those that started it Ian.

That *is* the usual first step in an argument between 6 year olds.
Some adults can do better.

they have bounce ups .....

--
Resisting Freemasonry for 39 years .....

Spike

2018-02-11 17:36:43 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the outside world
thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

It hasn't done much either for the image of freemasonry and freemasons.
--
Spike

"RSGBTech is meant for everyone", or so the RSGB says. The group is
moderated 'to
ensure that the questions are on topic', but the group's own admissions
policy mention
(a pre-) 'vet', 'known', 'trouble', and 'maker', but not the vetting
policy! None of these are
mentioned in the RSGB's Guidelines, which they claim the group should
follow.

Brian Howie

2018-02-11 17:44:29 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the outside
world thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

I first subscribed in 1998 and the Howard Oakley squabble was on-going.
My first post was April 1998. There were a lot of sensible people on at
that time.

Brian

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Aeolus 14 Umbra

2018-02-11 18:59:37 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the outside world
thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

I first subscribed in 1998 and the Howard Oakley squabble was on-going.
My first post was April 1998. There were a lot of sensible people on at
that time.
Brian

Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a clueless nuby
.........good start

A. non Eyemouse

2018-02-11 19:07:30 UTC

Post by Aeolus 14 Umbra
Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a clueless nuby
.........good start

The sign of a good RTTY Operator. At least you didn't get FIGS and LTRS
mixed up.

--
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Where Morse meets House.

Aeolus 14 Umbra

2018-02-11 19:29:57 UTC

Post by Aeolus 14 Umbra
Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a clueless nuby
.........good start

The sign of a good RTTY Operator. At least you didn't get FIGS and LTRS
mixed up.

don't get that?

A. non Eyemouse

2018-02-11 19:37:43 UTC

Post by Aeolus 14 Umbra
Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a clueless nuby
.........good start

The sign of a good RTTY Operator. At least you didn't get FIGS and LTRS
mixed up.

don't get that?

You'd also get similar odd effects if you had the sidebands reversed
when operating FSK or AFSK into a SSB rig.

--
Mouse.
Where Morse meets House.

Aeolus 14 Umbra

2018-02-12 07:23:31 UTC

Post by Aeolus 14 Umbra
Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a clueless nuby
.........good start

The sign of a good RTTY Operator. At least you didn't get FIGS and LTRS
mixed up.

don't get that?

ITA5 as used by teleprinters only had capitals, figures, punctuation and a
few control characters. Each key had a figure(or punctuation) and a
letter, so the RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY tuning signal could appear as 4646464646
if the LTRS shift was missed during signal decode, of if the OP failed to
hit the key!
http://youtu.be/1t7q2TdYLDE
You'd also get similar odd effects if you had the sidebands reversed when
operating FSK or AFSK into a SSB rig.

oh right .......that would have suited me then could it do ............... ?

Brian Howie

2018-02-11 19:57:35 UTC

Post by Aeolus 14 Umbra
Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a clueless nuby
.........good start

The sign of a good RTTY Operator. At least you didn't get FIGS and LTRS
mixed up.

The short wave propagation and noise does that for you.

Brian

--
Brian Howie

mm0fmf

2018-02-11 20:37:08 UTC

Post by Aeolus 14 Umbra
Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a clueless nuby
.........good start

The sign of a good RTTY Operator. At least you didn't get FIGS and
LTRS mixed up.

The short wave propagation and noise does that for you.
Brian

But which of them had unshift on space as an option. Was it the TTY28?
Or was it a Creed thing?

Brian Howie

2018-02-11 21:06:53 UTC

In message <p5q9hq$3em$***@dont-email.me>, mm0fmf <***@invalid.com>
writes

Post by Aeolus 14 Umbra
Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a clueless nuby
.........good start

The sign of a good RTTY Operator. At least you didn't get FIGS and
LTRS mixed up.

The short wave propagation and noise does that for you.
Brian

But which of them had unshift on space as an option. Was it the TTY28?
Or was it a Creed thing?

I've no idea. I had a Creed 7B , which belonged to GM8BJF. I never used
it on transmit. I just used it to read the news agencies.

Brian GM4DIJ

--
Brian Howie

A. non Eyemouse

2018-02-11 21:49:31 UTC

Post by Aeolus 14 Umbra
Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a clueless nuby
.........good start

The sign of a good RTTY Operator. At least you didn't get FIGS and
LTRS mixed up.

The short wave propagation and noise does that for you.
Brian

But which of them had unshift on space as an option. Was it the TTY28?
Or was it a Creed thing?

I've no idea. I had a Creed 7B , which belonged to GM8BJF. I never used
it on transmit. I just used it to read the news agencies.
Brian GM4DIJ

50 Bauds with a wide shift TU then. I used to find RTTY worked well on
144.6 but there was always some interesting stuff from the utilities
particularly when the Gulf war and other conflicts were happening.

--
Mouse.
Where Morse meets House.

mm0fmf

2018-02-11 22:05:32 UTC

Post by Aeolus 14 Umbra
Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a clueless nuby
.........good start

The sign of a good RTTY Operator. At least you didn't get FIGS and
LTRS mixed up.

The short wave propagation and noise does that for you.
Brian

But which of them had unshift on space as an option. Was it the
TTY28? Or was it a Creed thing?

I've no idea. I had a Creed 7B , which belonged to GM8BJF. I never
used it on transmit. I just used it to read the news agencies.
Brian GM4DIJ

I did my news copying in the early to late 70s. All wide shift 50 Bauds
copying TASS, TANJUG et al. AR88, CR100 then FRG-7/FRG-7000 with
TTY14/TTY15/TTY28 with a selector magnet supply that had a mercury
rectifier in it so you had funky purple flashes in time to the data.
Also Creed 7b. But the 7b was shit compared the TTY28. I had a Creed 444
but had to dump it when I moved house. Nobody wanted it then. Worth
money now :-(

Still find the rhythmic noise and oil smell a fantastic draw. So much
better than glass teletypes and computers. Total magic.

ISTR unshift on space was something the actual teleprinter did so as
soon as a space came in it would drop to LTRS. I gave up and Googled it,
it was the TTY28 that did it.

A. non Eyemouse

2018-02-12 00:02:57 UTC

Post by Aeolus 14 Umbra
Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a clueless nuby
.........good start

The sign of a good RTTY Operator. At least you didn't get FIGS and
LTRS mixed up.

The short wave propagation and noise does that for you.
Brian

But which of them had unshift on space as an option. Was it the
TTY28? Or was it a Creed thing?

I've no idea. I had a Creed 7B , which belonged to GM8BJF. I never
used it on transmit. I just used it to read the news agencies.
Brian GM4DIJ

I turned down a 444 or two many years ago when they were dumping them
from TELEX service. I took the easy route with a C64 and built my own
ST5C. Other people I knew had Creed stuff though, with a reperforators
and tape readers. I recall lots of early BAUDOT art (as opposed to
ASCII art) pictures of stuff like the PO Tower.

Post by mm0fmf
Still find the rhythmic noise and oil smell a fantastic draw. So much
better than glass teletypes and computers. Total magic.
ISTR unshift on space was something the actual teleprinter did so as
soon as a space came in it would drop to LTRS. I gave up and Googled it,
it was the TTY28 that did it.

When I was at school we had a Model 33 with acoustically coupled modem
for computer studies, but that would have been ASCII rather than BAUDOT.

--
Mouse.
Where Morse meets House.

Brian Howie

2018-02-12 06:35:11 UTC

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writes

Post by Aeolus 14 Umbra
Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a clueless nuby
.........good start

The sign of a good RTTY Operator. At least you didn't get FIGS and
LTRS mixed up.

The short wave propagation and noise does that for you.
Brian

But which of them had unshift on space as an option. Was it the
TTY28? Or was it a Creed thing?

I've no idea. I had a Creed 7B , which belonged to GM8BJF. I never
used it on transmit. I just used it to read the news agencies.
Brian GM4DIJ

I did my news copying in the early to late 70s. All wide shift 50 Bauds
copying TASS, TANJUG et al. AR88, CR100 then FRG-7/FRG-7000 with
TTY14/TTY15/TTY28 with a selector magnet supply that had a mercury
rectifier in it so you had funky purple flashes in time to the data.
Also Creed 7b. But the 7b was shit compared the TTY28. I had a Creed
444 but had to dump it when I moved house. Nobody wanted it then. Worth
money now :-(
Still find the rhythmic noise and oil smell a fantastic draw. So much
better than glass teletypes and computers. Total magic.
ISTR unshift on space was something the actual teleprinter did so as
soon as a space came in it would drop to LTRS. I gave up and Googled
it, it was the TTY28 that did it.

Mine was just taking up space. I offered it on here, but no takers. A
local geek group took it and were fascinated as I powered it up one
last time. They remarked it was a mechanical computer, which amused me.
There was still printout on it from one of the weather services.

Brian

--
Brian Howie

Bernie

2018-02-11 19:33:06 UTC

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:59:37 -0000

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception)
into the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the
outside world thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

I first subscribed in 1998 and the Howard Oakley squabble was
on-going. My first post was April 1998. There were a lot of
sensible people on at that time.
Brian

Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a
clueless nuby .........good start

I met Walt at a rally in the early 80s - didn't like him.

A. non Eyemouse

2018-02-11 19:38:54 UTC

Post by Bernie
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:59:37 -0000

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception)
into the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the
outside world thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

I first subscribed in 1998 and the Howard Oakley squabble was
on-going. My first post was April 1998. There were a lot of
sensible people on at that time.
Brian

Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a
clueless nuby .........good start

I met Walt at a rally in the early 80s - didn't like him.

Was he square bashing at the time?

--
Mouse.
Where Morse meets House.

Bernie

2018-02-11 20:39:28 UTC

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 14:38:54 -0500

Post by Bernie
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:59:37 -0000

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without
exception) into the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven
knows what the outside world thinks of amateur radio and radio
amateurs.

I first subscribed in 1998 and the Howard Oakley squabble was
on-going. My first post was April 1998. There were a lot of
sensible people on at that time.
Brian

Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a
clueless nuby .........good start

I met Walt at a rally in the early 80s - didn't like him.

Was he square bashing at the time?

No idea. I overheard him talking to someone else about RFI.

We talked about bikes, mostly.

Couldn't wait to get away from him, TBH.

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2018-02-11 20:01:47 UTC

Post by Bernie
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:59:37 -0000

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception)
into the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the
outside world thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

I first subscribed in 1998 and the Howard Oakley squabble was
on-going. My first post was April 1998. There were a lot of
sensible people on at that time.
Brian

Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a
clueless nuby .........good start

I met Walt at a rally in the early 80s - didn't like him.

he probably didn't like you ....

--
Resisting Freemasonry for 39 years .....

Bernie

2018-02-11 20:34:59 UTC

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 20:01:47 +0000

Post by Bernie
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:59:37 -0000

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without
exception) into the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven
knows what the outside world thinks of amateur radio and radio
amateurs.

I first subscribed in 1998 and the Howard Oakley squabble was
on-going. My first post was April 1998. There were a lot of
sensible people on at that time.
Brian

Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a
clueless nuby .........good start

I met Walt at a rally in the early 80s - didn't like him.

he probably didn't like you ....

shocking.....!..!....

Aeolus 14 Umbra

2018-02-12 07:25:27 UTC

Post by Bernie
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 20:01:47 +0000

Post by Bernie
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:59:37 -0000

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without
exception) into the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven
knows what the outside world thinks of amateur radio and radio
amateurs.

I first subscribed in 1998 and the Howard Oakley squabble was
on-going. My first post was April 1998. There were a lot of
sensible people on at that time.
Brian

Think I came on in 2001 with ALL CAPITALS ...Walt called me a
clueless nuby .........good start

I met Walt at a rally in the early 80s - didn't like him.

he probably didn't like you ....

shocking.....!..!....

sure it wouldn't have been hard to do ......

Stephen Thomas Cole

2018-02-11 18:19:51 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match?

Because most radio amateurs are hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers?

Post by Ian Jackson
Heaven knows what the outside world
thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

That most are hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers.

--
STC / M0TEY /
http://twitter.com/ukradioamateur

Aeolus 14 Umbra

2018-02-11 19:00:44 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match?

Because most radio amateurs are hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers?

Post by Ian Jackson
Heaven knows what the outside world
thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

That most are hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers.

You say that as if it was a bad thing .........are there and records going
back to 2001?......

Roger Hayter

2018-02-11 19:59:16 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match?

Because most radio amateurs are hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers?

Ok, what's *your* excuse, then?

Post by Ian Jackson
Heaven knows what the outside world
thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

That most are hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers.

--
Roger Hayter

Stephen Thomas Cole

2018-02-12 06:32:20 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match?

Because most radio amateurs are hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers?

Ok, what's *your* excuse, then?

I enjoy winding up hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers.

--
STC / M0TEY /
http://twitter.com/ukradioamateur

Aeolus 14 Umbra

2018-02-12 07:26:24 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match?

Because most radio amateurs are hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers?

Ok, what's *your* excuse, then?

I enjoy winding up hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers.

It's good to have a hobby you're good at.......

Stephen Thomas Cole

2018-02-12 08:02:38 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match?

Because most radio amateurs are hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers?

Ok, what's *your* excuse, then?

I enjoy winding up hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers.

It's good to have a hobby you're good at.......

I excel at it, just like I do in everything I put my hand to. I'm a
goddamn'd Renaissance Man, Jim.

--
STC / M0TEY /
http://twitter.com/ukradioamateur

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2018-02-12 10:35:33 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match?

Because most radio amateurs are hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers?

Ok, what's *your* excuse, then?

I enjoy winding up hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers.

It's good to have a hobby you're good at.......

I excel at it, just like I do in everything I put my hand to. I'm a
goddamn'd Renaissance Man, Jim.

and so modest .....

--
Resisting Freemasonry for 39 years .....

Spike

2018-02-12 11:28:57 UTC

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole
I excel at it, just like I do in everything I put my hand to. I'm a
goddamn'd Renaissance Man, Jim.

and so modest .....

I think he's saying he's a 400-year-old hysterical, histrionic, senile
wanker.
--
Spike

"RSGBTech is meant for everyone", or so the RSGB says. The group is
moderated 'to
ensure that the questions are on topic', but the group's own admissions
policy mention
(a pre-) 'vet', 'known', 'trouble', and 'maker', but not the vetting
policy! None of these are
mentioned in the RSGB's Guidelines, which they claim the group should
follow.

Stephen Thomas Cole

2018-02-12 11:43:49 UTC

Post by Spike

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole
I excel at it, just like I do in everything I put my hand to. I'm a
goddamn'd Renaissance Man, Jim.

and so modest .....

I think he's saying he's a 400-year-old hysterical, histrionic, senile
wanker.

Half-term, Burt. Have you taken precautions and removed your car aerial?
Only leave the cheeky scamps the option of smearing dog dirt on the door
handles, mate. Cheaper that way.

--
STC / M0TEY /
http://twitter.com/ukradioamateur

Brian Reay

2018-02-12 12:21:48 UTC

Post by Spike

Post by Stephen Thomas Cole
I excel at it, just like I do in everything I put my hand to. I'm a
goddamn'd Renaissance Man, Jim.

and so modest .....

I think he's saying he's a 400-year-old hysterical, histrionic, senile
wanker.

Half-term, Burt.

Is it really? You don't bother monitoring such things when you are
enjoying 'grand vacance', as Frenchman we met on holiday described
retirement.

Off down to Hythe later in the week- somethings to collect first but
also a walk on the beach planned. If you've not taken the family down
that way, I can recommend it. Fishing is good too, although a bit early
for my chosen fish.

Stephen Thomas Cole

2018-02-12 11:43:48 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match?

Because most radio amateurs are hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers?

Ok, what's *your* excuse, then?

I enjoy winding up hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers.

It's good to have a hobby you're good at.......

I excel at it, just like I do in everything I put my hand to. I'm a
goddamn'd Renaissance Man, Jim.

and so modest .....

I'm the best at humility, the absolute fucking greatest of all time at
being humble.

--
STC / M0TEY /
http://twitter.com/ukradioamateur

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2018-02-12 12:25:28 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match?

Because most radio amateurs are hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers?

Ok, what's *your* excuse, then?

I enjoy winding up hysterical, histrionic, senile wankers.

It's good to have a hobby you're good at.......

I excel at it, just like I do in everything I put my hand to. I'm a
goddamn'd Renaissance Man, Jim.

and so modest .....

I'm the best at humility, the absolute fucking greatest of all time at
being humble.

we could tell .......

--
Resisting Freemasonry for 39 years .....

Aeolus 14 Umbra

2018-02-11 18:57:01 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception) into
the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the outside world
thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

I took me until the early 80's to realise what hams were really like .....

Bernie

2018-02-11 19:31:40 UTC

On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:57:01 -0000

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception)
into the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the
outside world thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

I took me until the early 80's to realise what hams were really like .....

I managed to get a licence without ever meeting a ham.

Roger Hayter

2018-02-11 19:59:17 UTC

Post by Bernie
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:57:01 -0000

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception)
into the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the
outside world thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

I took me until the early 80's to realise what hams were really like .....

I managed to get a licence without ever meeting a ham.

Me too. I did meet one or two people on nearby bands though.

--
Roger Hayter

A. non Eyemouse

2018-02-11 21:51:40 UTC

Post by Bernie
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:57:01 -0000

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception)
into the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the
outside world thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

I took me until the early 80's to realise what hams were really like .....

I managed to get a licence without ever meeting a ham.

Me too. I did meet one or two people on nearby bands though.

US Air Force or the Police?

--
Mouse.
Where Morse meets House.

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2018-02-11 20:02:39 UTC

Post by Bernie
On Sun, 11 Feb 2018 18:57:01 -0000

Post by Ian Jackson
In message

Post by Brian Howie
Can you guys not give all this bickering a rest ?

You must be new here. Welcome to ukra!

Why does ANY subject raised in this NG descend (without exception)
into the same 20 year-old slanging match? Heaven knows what the
outside world thinks of amateur radio and radio amateurs.

I took me until the early 80's to realise what hams were really like .....

I managed to get a licence without ever meeting a ham.

best way ...

--
Resisting Freemasonry for 39 years .....

Rambo

2018-02-09 22:29:06 UTC

BTW, did you know you are also supposedly a moderator for ulm, sorry a
tame moderator for ulm?

Oh dear, searching for support are we?

Paul Cummins

2018-02-09 22:43:00 UTC

Post by Brian Reay
BTW, did you know you are also supposedly a moderator for ulm,

sorry a >tame moderator for ulm?
Oh dear, searching for support are we?

He's also really displaying his stupidity. Or ignorance.

Or wilful refusal to accept the truth.

Brian Reay

2018-02-10 07:39:51 UTC

BTW, did you know you are also supposedly a moderator for ulm, sorry a
tame moderator for ulm?

Oh dear, searching for support are we?

You chum was whining at the ulm mods at the time, I was just observing.

The claims re tame moderators didn't go down well at all with those who
run ulm.

Lucifer Morningstar

2018-02-10 09:08:42 UTC

On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 21:53:50 +0000, Ian Jackson

I intend to try transmitting DVB-T on 438 Mhz but from what I have
read doing such will result in extra bandwidth due to sidebands.

Ian Jackson

2018-02-10 11:21:17 UTC

Post by Lucifer Morningstar
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 21:53:50 +0000, Ian Jackson

I intend to try transmitting DVB-T on 438 Mhz but from what I have
read doing such will result in extra bandwidth due to sidebands.

I'm not sure how wide a single 'programme' DVB-T MUX is - but I suspect
it should fit inside the top end of the band. However, be aware of the
presence of certain non-standard repeater shifts (some up to 7.6MHz, I
think). Aren't some people trying live digital in the 1MHz extension of
2m? You need to check with the BATC.
http://www.batc.org.uk

--
Ian

Lucifer Morningstar

2018-02-12 05:15:46 UTC

On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:21:17 +0000, Ian Jackson

Post by Lucifer Morningstar
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 21:53:50 +0000, Ian Jackson

I intend to try transmitting DVB-T on 438 Mhz but from what I have
read doing such will result in extra bandwidth due to sidebands.

I have DVB-T encoder modulator that can do 4 programs anywhere
from 30 to 960 Mhz.

Ian Jackson

2018-02-12 08:01:39 UTC

Post by Lucifer Morningstar
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:21:17 +0000, Ian Jackson

Post by Lucifer Morningstar
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 21:53:50 +0000, Ian Jackson

I intend to try transmitting DVB-T on 438 Mhz but from what I have
read doing such will result in extra bandwidth due to sidebands.

I have DVB-T encoder modulator that can do 4 programs anywhere
from 30 to 960 Mhz.

But how wide is it when it carries only one 'programme'?

--
Ian

Rob

2018-02-12 09:13:14 UTC

Post by Lucifer Morningstar
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:21:17 +0000, Ian Jackson

Post by Lucifer Morningstar
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 21:53:50 +0000, Ian Jackson

I intend to try transmitting DVB-T on 438 Mhz but from what I have
read doing such will result in extra bandwidth due to sidebands.

I have DVB-T encoder modulator that can do 4 programs anywhere
from 30 to 960 Mhz.

But how wide is it when it carries only one 'programme'?

In theory it could omit carriers and transmit a narrower signal at
lower bitrate, but in practice "standard DVB-T transmitters" cannot
do this. I heard some amateurs produced modulators and alternative
firmware that can do e.g. a 2 MHz wide DVB-T signal.

FranK Turner-Smith G3VKI

2018-02-12 09:57:00 UTC

Post by Lucifer Morningstar
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:21:17 +0000, Ian Jackson

Post by Lucifer Morningstar
On Fri, 9 Feb 2018 21:53:50 +0000, Ian Jackson

I intend to try transmitting DVB-T on 438 Mhz but from what I have
read doing such will result in extra bandwidth due to sidebands.

I have DVB-T encoder modulator that can do 4 programs anywhere
from 30 to 960 Mhz.

But how wide is it when it carries only one 'programme'?

Its width will always be the same, even when switched off.

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Ian Jackson

2018-02-12 10:35:49 UTC