“I’ve been an organizer and an agitator”

Are you even aware that women, the young, and minorities are as likely
to oppose abortion as are males, older people, and whites?

The world doesn't correspond to you politically correct stereotypes.

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-12 12:42:24 UTC

Are you even aware that women, the young, and minorities are as likely
to oppose abortion as are males, older people, and whites?

False. Look at the polls. Don't make up a claim that you can't back up
with numbers.

http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

Post by John McAdams
The world doesn't correspond to you politically correct stereotypes.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

John McAdams

2018-10-12 12:51:11 UTC

On 12 Oct 2018 08:42:24 -0400, Anthony Marsh

Are you even aware that women, the young, and minorities are as likely
to oppose abortion as are males, older people, and whites?

False. Look at the polls. Don't make up a claim that you can't back up
with numbers.
http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

Why do you keep posting things that don't show what you say they do?

Pew shows 59% of women, and 55% of men saying abortion should be legal
in all/most cases. That is a 4% difference.

Pew shows young people more pro-abortion by 12% (although the General
Social Survey does not show that).

Pew shows blacks on 4% more likely than whites to be pro-abortion.

Here is Gallup on gender:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/235646/men-women-generally-hold-similar-abortion-attitudes.aspx

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-13 03:49:58 UTC

Post by John McAdams
On 12 Oct 2018 08:42:24 -0400, Anthony Marsh

Are you even aware that women, the young, and minorities are as likely
to oppose abortion as are males, older people, and whites?

False. Look at the polls. Don't make up a claim that you can't back up
with numbers.
http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/public-opinion-on-abortion/

Why do you keep posting things that don't show what you say they do?
Pew shows 59% of women, and 55% of men saying abortion should be legal
in all/most cases. That is a 4% difference.

Only one of the questions. Look at them all.

Post by John McAdams
Pew shows young people more pro-abortion by 12% (although the General
Social Survey does not show that).
Pew shows blacks on 4% more likely than whites to be pro-abortion.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/235646/men-women-generally-hold-similar-abortion-attitudes.aspx

So now when it suits you you believe in polls?

Post by John McAdams
.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Piotr Mancini

2018-10-13 03:48:15 UTC

I could not believe my eyes when I read this, written by no less than a

Post by John McAdams
Are you even aware that women, the young, and minorities are as likely
to oppose abortion as are males, older people, and whites?
The world doesn't correspond to you politically correct stereotypes.
.John
-----------------------

Conservatives suffer from a grave shortcoming: their lack of understanding
about the principles upon which this great nation was founded. "Their
country" (definitely not mine!) is succinctly illustrated as follows:

[3 million views! One day they will be jealous of the numbers reached by
the JFK Numbers YouTube Channel]

This country is a Republic, based on *representative* Democracy. See
composition of the House and Electoral College. Does this mean that we
should legislate that 51% of Congress are female? 18% Latinos? Some
percentage of gays? Read on.

Are you righties comfortable with the fact that some 92% (now, probably
higher) of the Formerly Great, now definitely Old Party are:

- White
- Christian
- Hetero (yeah, suuuuure, wink, wink. I guess we'll have to take their
word for it.)

See the Congressional White Anglo Caucus:

http://politicsthatwork.com/showGraph.php?id=34

plus aging and living in the LSA (Lagging States of America)?

Back to the basic pillar known as representativity (I hope you folks are
familiar with the fundamentals of statistics, such as *sampling*). In the
OP, that broad Cecile Richards demands 50% of Democrat positions to be of
the female persuasion. Is that good? Should it be codified and enforced?
Definitely not! It would be ridiculous to insist that 10.5% of
congresspeople be south paws, or shorter than 5.5 feet, some percent
having A+ blood type, etc.

Why is that, you ask? Because the needs, concerns and issues of people
with hemotype across bloody the spectrum are, essentially identical.

Can we say the same about the needs, concerns and issues of various:

- Races and ethnicities? [*]
- Ages?
- Genders? (there are four or something)

Bottom line: When those highly desirable percentages (17% of Senators of
the Black persuasion, etc), that composition that reflects the whole
America is being approached (never reached, let's be realistic: that is an
impossibility) there is a reason for ALL OF US to celebrate.

[Plug warning] Any similarity with ALL OF US being obligated to celebrate
the advances of sci+tech:

[That is where Sweet Caroline tells us: "Shame on you!!"]

reached toward the numeric clarification of the most important crime in
the history of America is NOT coincidental.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

[*] Quick example: Blacks and Latinos have a higher tendency to be
afflicted by diabetes.

bigdog

2018-10-14 00:50:45 UTC

Post by Piotr Mancini
I could not believe my eyes when I read this, written by no less than a

Conservatives suffer from a grave shortcoming: their lack of understanding
about the principles upon which this great nation was founded. "Their
http://youtu.be/2zfqw8nhUwA
[3 million views! One day they will be jealous of the numbers reached by
the JFK Numbers YouTube Channel]
This country is a Republic, based on *representative* Democracy. See
composition of the House and Electoral College. Does this mean that we
should legislate that 51% of Congress are female? 18% Latinos? Some
percentage of gays? Read on.
Are you righties comfortable with the fact that some 92% (now, probably
- White
- Christian
- Hetero (yeah, suuuuure, wink, wink. I guess we'll have to take their
word for it.)
http://politicsthatwork.com/showGraph.php?id=34
plus aging and living in the LSA (Lagging States of America)?
Back to the basic pillar known as representativity (I hope you folks are
familiar with the fundamentals of statistics, such as *sampling*). In the
OP, that broad Cecile Richards demands 50% of Democrat positions to be of
the female persuasion. Is that good? Should it be codified and enforced?
Definitely not! It would be ridiculous to insist that 10.5% of
congresspeople be south paws, or shorter than 5.5 feet, some percent
having A+ blood type, etc.
Why is that, you ask? Because the needs, concerns and issues of people
with hemotype across bloody the spectrum are, essentially identical.
- Races and ethnicities? [*]
- Ages?
- Genders? (there are four or something)
Bottom line: When those highly desirable percentages (17% of Senators of
the Black persuasion, etc), that composition that reflects the whole
America is being approached (never reached, let's be realistic: that is an
impossibility) there is a reason for ALL OF US to celebrate.
[Plug warning] Any similarity with ALL OF US being obligated to celebrate
http://youtu.be/2_U46KG2KeA
[That is where Sweet Caroline tells us: "Shame on you!!"]
reached toward the numeric clarification of the most important crime in
the history of America is NOT coincidental.

I really don't care what the demographic make up of Congress is and I
wouldn't have known had I been asked. I only have one congressmen and two
senators to represent me and I only care about their positions on the
issues that are important to me. Why would I care about anything else?

bigdog

2018-10-12 12:35:25 UTC

Post by Piotr Mancini
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/women-rule-podcast-cecile-richards-885857
Have you guys (*) seen the pictures of the congressional committee (by
Republicans, of course) where the issues related to abortion and related
women's health were being decided?
Number of women = 0
Number of minorities = 0
Number of young congressmen = 0
Seems like stacking the deck in order to obtain preordained results,
doesn't it?
Any similarity to the HSCA FPP is not coincidental.
-Ramon The Disorganizer and Agitator
JFK Numbers
(*) and gals of course, but I don't see one. It is evident that this NG is
moderated by a Republican.

Is it your belief that all women are pro-choice, that all minorities and
young people are Democrats?

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-13 03:50:15 UTC

Is it your belief that all women are pro-choice, that all minorities and
young people are Democrats?

No. silly straw man argument. More women than men are pro-choice. More
minorities and young people are Democrats than Republicans.

Piotr Mancini

2018-10-13 15:57:13 UTC

[Purina Chow's Poster Puppy wrote:]

Post by bigdog
Is it your belief that all women are pro-choice, that all minorities and
young people are Democrats?

How many times do I have to repeat the JFK Numbers credo?

Universities, numbers, when it comes to The Truth, the only possible reference is our universities.

The distribution of voters by gender, religion, race (which is not quite
the same as ethnicity: Cruz, Rubio, Yours Truly and millions more a
Hispanic White), economic level, education, geography, etc. has been
extensively documented. At least prof. McAdams had the professionalism of
including some links. You provide zero references. There are people, very
well educated/compensated collecting and analyzing those *NUMBERS* (my
specialty) in and out political parties.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

====================
"Study: Youth vote was decisive"

Mitt Romney would have cruised to the White House had he managed to split
the youth vote with Barack Obama, according to an analysis released
Wednesday.

Obama easily won the youth vote nationally, 67 percent to 30 percent, with
young voters proving the decisive difference in Florida, Virginia,
Pennsylvania and Ohio, according to an analysis by the Center for Research
and Information on Civic Learning and Engagement at Tufts University.
Obama won at least 61 percent of the youth vote in four of those states,
and if Romney had achieved a 50-50 split, he could have flipped those
states to his column, the study said.

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/11/study-youth-vote-was-decisive-083510#ixzz472EXzes5
-------------------------------------------------
Which is the party where hatred is most concentrated and distilled, one
wonders?

The only ones qualified to make a statement are the victims of prejudice,
discrimination, persecution and racism themselves. Let's ask them, shall
we?

Here's their response, in 2008:

- Black folks voted for Obama, by a 96% margin.
- Jewish folks voted for Obama, by a 75% margin.
- Hispanic folks voted for Obama, by a 66% margin.
- Asian folks voted for Obama, by a 63% margin.
- Gay folks voted for Obama, by an unknown margin.

ps: Oh, I almost forgot the largest minority of all:

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2012 was even better:

According to exit polls, in 2012, support for Obama came from:

- 93% of blacks
- 71% of Latinos
- 73% of Asian Americans
- 76% of gays and lesbians
- 69% of Jews
- 60% of voters under 30
- 55% of women.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/nov/09/local/la-me-banks-campaign-20121110

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/jewish-voter-exit-polls_n_2084008.html

It is over.
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Share of the White Vote:

Dukakis (1988) - 40%
Clinton (1992) - 39%
Clinton (1996) - 44%
Gore (2000) - 42%
Kerry (2004) - 41%
Obama (2008) - 43%
Obama (2012) - 39%

It holds around the 40% mark while the minority vote only CLIMBS.

It is over.
-------------------------------------------------

John McAdams

2018-10-13 16:22:31 UTC

Post by Piotr Mancini
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/women-rule-podcast-cecile-richards-885857

-------------------------------------------------
Which is the party where hatred is most concentrated and distilled, one
wonders?

We don't have to wonder.

Which party throws a tantrum when they can't defeat a Supreme Court
nominee they don't like?

Which party is the party of Antifa?

Which party has the people who believe it is OK to stalk and verbally
assault people in the other party?

Which party has people who try to assassinate members of Congress?

Which party has people who shout down, and even assault campus
speakers they don't like?

Which party views people in the other party as "deplorables" or
"bitter clingers?"

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-14 00:57:44 UTC

Post by Piotr Mancini
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/women-rule-podcast-cecile-richards-885857

-------------------------------------------------
Which is the party where hatred is most concentrated and distilled, one
wonders?

We don't have to wonder.
Which party throws a tantrum when they can't defeat a Supreme Court
nominee they don't like?

Which party refused to allow a vote on a Supreme court nominee for 11
months?

Post by John McAdams
Which party is the party of Antifa?

Which party is the party of the John Birch Society?

Post by John McAdams
Which party has the people who believe it is OK to stalk and verbally
assault people in the other party?

The Republican Party.

Which party's Presidential candidate openly called for his supporters to
assault protestors at his rallies? Trump. OK, noe you can argue that Trump
does not represent the Republican party.

Post by John McAdams
Which party has people who try to assassinate members of Congress?

Did the attacker say he was doing it for a certain party? Why don't you
try this same Straw Man nonsense about the Lincoln assassination or the
JFK assassination?

I could easily use your trick to claim that Oswald must have been a
Republican sent to assassinate a Democrat, but there's no more room in the
gutter you occupy.

Post by John McAdams
Which party has people who shout down, and even assault campus
speakers they don't like?

Wow, people shout? You mean like your Tea Party?

Post by John McAdams
Which party views people in the other party as "deplorables" or
"bitter clingers?"

She didn't say all. You are misquoting her for propaganda purposes. I
never said that all WC defenders here are Nazis.

BTW, I tried the Bitter clingers at Trader Joe's and they weren't that
good. Too much caramel.

Post by John McAdams
.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Kyle Kenley Kopitke

2018-11-16 14:59:48 UTC

Post by Piotr Mancini
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/women-rule-podcast-cecile-richards-885857

-------------------------------------------------
Which is the party where hatred is most concentrated and distilled, one
wonders?

We don't have to wonder.
Which party throws a tantrum when they can't defeat a Supreme Court
nominee they don't like?
Which party is the party of Antifa?
Which party has the people who believe it is OK to stalk and verbally
assault people in the other party?
Which party has people who try to assassinate members of Congress?
Which party has people who shout down, and even assault campus
speakers they don't like?
Which party views people in the other party as "deplorables" or
"bitter clingers?"
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Thank you John; very well written. We do have "negative" data and words
and worse coming from both sides, though it seems that one side is more
aggressive than the other -- If we want our country to survive we will
need to pull it together. This will be difficult given that the Mainstream
News Media seeks to divide America and promote their One World Government
of a New World Order agenda. His Peace to you, Kyle
PresidentKopitke2016.info

Ramon F Herrera

2018-11-17 05:50:44 UTC

the Mainstream News Media seeks to divide America.

Let me get this straight.... The Democrat Party (and therefore, MSM) is
composed of:

• Every single race on the face of the Earth
• All genders (all 4 of them)
• All sexual orientations (and positions :-)
• From the filthy rich to the poorest among the poor
• All religious denominations, PLUS the Atheists.
• National origin: from all corners of the globe.
• From the purest Mayflower pedigree to the recently sworn newcomers
• Wall Street types, greedy employers AND Unions

AND WE ARE THE RACISTS/DIVIDERS !!!????

-Ramon The Uniter
JFK Numbers

Anthony Marsh

2018-11-18 00:19:13 UTC

the Mainstream News Media seeks to divide America.

Let me get this straight.... The Democrat Party (and therefore, MSM) is
• Every single race on the face of the Earth
• All genders (all 4 of them)

Why limit it to only 4? Ar you prejudiced?

Post by Ramon F Herrera
• All sexual orientations (and positions :-)

Are you including the sadists and the rapists?

Post by Ramon F Herrera
• From the filthy rich to the poorest among the poor
• All religious denominations, PLUS the Atheists.

Including Satanists and witches?

Post by Ramon F Herrera
• National origin: from all corners of the globe.

But not allowing anyone who lives under the land or on the water?

Post by Ramon F Herrera
• From the purest Mayflower pedigree to the recently sworn newcomers

Hard to find ANY purest pedigree now. The US is a melting pot.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
• Wall Street types, greedy employers AND Unions
AND WE ARE THE RACISTS/DIVIDERS !!!????
-Ramon The Uniter
JFK Numbers

Ramon F Herrera

2018-11-17 05:51:49 UTC

Post by Kyle Kenley Kopitke
Thank you John; very well written. We do have "negative" data and words
and worse coming from both sides, though it seems that one side is more
aggressive than the other.

It is time for my automated AI based debater to take over. I used to
post the following, in consecutive items in descending order.

Kyle: You are cordially invited to find something equivalent from the
"aggressive" party.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

As you can see below I don't have to use ONE word from by fellow
Liberals. Most of those words come from the leaders of YOUR party.

=====================================
(19) Let's hear it from the horse's mouth, as it were:

Interviewer: "Why do you hate Mexicans?"
Tea Party Member: "Because they are filthy, stinky ANIMALS!!!"

------------------------------------------------
(18) Republicans Admit Racism Is Big Obstacle To Passing Immigration Reform

“Part of it, I think — and I hate to say this, because these are my
people — but I hate to say it, but it’s racial,” said the REPUBLICAN
lawmaker, who remained anonymous. “If you go to town halls people say
things like, ‘These people have different CULTURAL customs than we do.’
And that’s code for race.”

http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/01/30/3226951/immigration-gop-racism/
------------------------------------------------
(17) Republican Arizona Official Under Pressure To Resign After Calling
Welfare Recipients 'Lazy Pigs'

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/24/john-huppenthal-racist-comments_n_5527107.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
------------------------------------------------
(16) Hispanic Judge Bolts the GOP: "I cannot tolerate a political party
that demeans Texans based on their sexual orientation, the color of
their skin or their economic status"

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/21/2811661/san-antonio-judge-bolts-gop/
------------------------------------------------
(15) Republican congressman: GOP can seem like ‘knuckle-dragging
Neanderthals’

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/17/republican-congressman-gop-can-seem-like-knuckle-dragging-neanderthals/
------------------------------------------------
(14) Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman apologized to
one of the nation's largest black civil rights groups Thursday, saying
Republicans had not done enough to court blacks in the past and had
exploited racial strife to court white voters, particularly in the South.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-07-14-GOP-racial-politics_x.htm?csp=34

That was back in 2005: The situation has gotten worse since.
------------------------------------------------
(13) Confederate flags at Tea Party Rallies

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Confederate+Flags+at+Tea+Party+Rallies
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Confederate+Flags+at+Tea+Party+Rallies
------------------------------------------------
(12) 20 of The Most Racist TEApublican Political Signs

http://aattp.org/20-of-the-most-racist-teapublican-political-signs/
------------------------------------------------
(11) Rand Paul:

“Republicans have been losing both the respect and votes of a group of
people who already identify with many of our beliefs in family, faith
and conservative values. Hispanics should be a natural and sizable part
of the Republican base,” Rand Paul said. “But they have steadily drifted
away from the GOP in each election. I think this says more about
Republicans than it does about Hispanics.”

[Washington Post:]

http://goo.gl/qO89v4
------------------------------------------------
See below what the best and brightest, the future of the GOP have to say:

(10) College Republicans:

Voters believe that the Republican party is closed-minded, racist, rigid
and old-fashioned, according to a College Republican National Committee
(CNRC) report.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57587346/college-republicans-gop-has-dismal-situation-with-young-voters/

The group above is composed of the best and the brightest, the FUTURE of
the Republican Party. The ones who believe that MIT should be involved
in solving the numerical aspect of the JFK case.
------------------------------------------------
(9) Judge Edith Jones

Texas Judge, Bush candidate to the Supreme Court: "Blacks and Latinos
are prone to crime and violence"

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/06/justice/texas-judge-racial-allegations/
------------------------------------------------
(8) Colin Powell:

"Colin Powell Accuses GOP Of Racism: They ‘Still Look Down On Minorities’"

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/colin-powell-accuses-gop-of-racism-they-still-look-down-on-minorities/
------------------------------------------------
(7) Colin Powell's former chief of staff: "My party is full of racists":

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/27/colin-powells-former-chief-of-staff-gop-is-full-of-racists/
[He quit the GOP recently]
------------------------------------------------
(6) Check with this guy:

“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham
(SC). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business
for the long term.”

http://tinyurl.com/8knh2ul
------------------------------------------------
(5) Texas GOP official -- "Hispanics and Asian Americans are "maggots"
who voted for Obama"

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/11/08/4399621/hardin-county-gop-official-wants.html
------------------------------------------------
(4) Check with Jeb Bush:

http://tinyurl.com/6drgb6h
http://tinyurl.com/7d3l9cr
http://swampland.time.com/2012/02/24/did-jeb-bush-actually-say-that/

Jeb married a Mexican lady, and they lived here in Houston. After she
was ostracized in the country clubs, they decided to move to a city
where Hispanics rule: Miami. He has been one of the most popular
politicians in Florida's history. Founded some Hispanic group (not for
the poor!!).
------------------------------------------------
(3) O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How do we undo
this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How can we
possibly get them back?'"

Steve Schmidt, Top Republican Strategist (*), agreeing: "If we [the GOP]
had a deliberate strategy to antagonize every Latino voter in this
country, it is not possible that we could have done a better job".

"The Republican Party cannot be a national party if it doesn't compete
in the Hispanic market - Look at those numbers: we have big, big problems."

(*) Played by Woody Harrelson in the McCain campaign HBO movie.
------------------------------------------------
(2) You may want to ask Dick Armey, Founder and Funder of the Tea Party:

"With Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc in the nation,
Armey says the GOP seems to be saying, “Let’s go out and alienate them.”
Armey said socially conservative Latino and African American voters are
natural constituents for the GOP ... if Republicans don’t push them
away. “The party was born with the Emancipation Proclamation,” he said.
But today, he added, “it can’t get a black [or Hispanic] vote to save
its life.” (**)

http://tinyurl.com/6bb6tes

Dick Armey, Founder and Funder of the Tea Party.

(**) I am sure you folks wonder what happened after Mr. Armey made those
sensible statements. The likes of Michelle Bachmann and Glenn Beck told
him to STFU, and he obliged: the angry bagger_mobs drowned his calls for
rationality.
------------------------------------------------
1) Ask this lady:

"Of course it is racist! My dad cannot say it, but I can".

-Meghan McCain, born and raised in Arizona, when asked about AZ SB-1070
(aka. "Papiere, bitte").
------------------------------------------------
"Those shithole countries"
- The Pussy Grabber in Chief, temporarily in the House of the People.
------------------------------------------------
"Let them call you racists, wear it as a badge of Honor"
-Steve Bannon
------------------------------------------------

Anthony Marsh

2018-11-18 14:26:47 UTC

Thank you John; very well written. We do have "negative" data and words
and worse coming from both sides, though it seems that one side is more
aggressive than the other.

It is time for my automated AI based debater to take over. I used to
post the following, in consecutive items in descending order.

Are you alpha testing Windows Ai?

Post by Ramon F Herrera
Kyle: You are cordially invited to find something equivalent from the
"aggressive" party.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
As you can see below I don't have to use ONE word from by fellow
Liberals. Most of those words come from the leaders of YOUR party.
=====================================
Interviewer: "Why do you hate Mexicans?"
Tea Party Member: "Because they are filthy, stinky ANIMALS!!!"
http://youtu.be/ZXaILy3GE7U
------------------------------------------------
(18) Republicans Admit Racism Is Big Obstacle To Passing Immigration Reform
“Part of it, I think — and I hate to say this, because these are my
people — but I hate to say it, but it’s racial,” said the REPUBLICAN
lawmaker, who remained anonymous. “If you go to town halls people say
things like, ‘These people have different CULTURAL customs than we do.’
And that’s code for race.”
http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/01/30/3226951/immigration-gop-racism/
------------------------------------------------
(17) Republican Arizona Official Under Pressure To Resign After Calling
Welfare Recipients 'Lazy Pigs'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/24/john-huppenthal-racist-comments_n_5527107.html?utm_hp_ref=politics
------------------------------------------------
(16) Hispanic Judge Bolts the GOP: "I cannot tolerate a political party
that demeans Texans based on their sexual orientation, the color of
their skin or their economic status"
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/10/21/2811661/san-antonio-judge-bolts-gop/
------------------------------------------------
(15) Republican congressman: GOP can seem like ‘knuckle-dragging
Neanderthals’
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/12/17/republican-congressman-gop-can-seem-like-knuckle-dragging-neanderthals/
------------------------------------------------
(14) Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman apologized to
one of the nation's largest black civil rights groups Thursday, saying
Republicans had not done enough to court blacks in the past and had
exploited racial strife to court white voters, particularly in the South.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-07-14-GOP-racial-politics_x.htm?csp=34
That was back in 2005: The situation has gotten worse since.
------------------------------------------------
(13) Confederate flags at Tea Party Rallies
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Confederate+Flags+at+Tea+Party+Rallies
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Confederate+Flags+at+Tea+Party+Rallies
------------------------------------------------
(12) 20 of The Most Racist TEApublican Political Signs
http://aattp.org/20-of-the-most-racist-teapublican-political-signs/
------------------------------------------------
“Republicans have been losing both the respect and votes of a group of
people who already identify with many of our beliefs in family, faith
and conservative values. Hispanics should be a natural and sizable part
of the Republican base,” Rand Paul said. “But they have steadily drifted
away from the GOP in each election. I think this says more about
Republicans than it does about Hispanics.”
[Washington Post:]
http://goo.gl/qO89v4
------------------------------------------------
Voters believe that the Republican party is closed-minded, racist, rigid
and old-fashioned, according to a College Republican National Committee
(CNRC) report.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57587346/college-republicans-gop-has-dismal-situation-with-young-voters/
The group above is composed of the best and the brightest, the FUTURE of
the Republican Party. The ones who believe that MIT should be involved
in solving the numerical aspect of the JFK case.
------------------------------------------------
(9) Judge Edith Jones
Texas Judge, Bush candidate to the Supreme Court: "Blacks and Latinos
are prone to crime and violence"
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/06/justice/texas-judge-racial-allegations/
------------------------------------------------
"Colin Powell Accuses GOP Of Racism: They ‘Still Look Down On Minorities’"
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/colin-powell-accuses-gop-of-racism-they-still-look-down-on-minorities/
------------------------------------------------
http://youtu.be/u3HsZ_4fZoU
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/27/colin-powells-former-chief-of-staff-gop-is-full-of-racists/
[He quit the GOP recently]
------------------------------------------------
“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham
(SC). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business
for the long term.”
http://tinyurl.com/8knh2ul
------------------------------------------------
(5) Texas GOP official -- "Hispanics and Asian Americans are "maggots"
who voted for Obama"
http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/11/08/4399621/hardin-county-gop-official-wants.html
------------------------------------------------
http://tinyurl.com/6drgb6h
http://tinyurl.com/7d3l9cr
http://swampland.time.com/2012/02/24/did-jeb-bush-actually-say-that/
Jeb married a Mexican lady, and they lived here in Houston. After she
was ostracized in the country clubs, they decided to move to a city
where Hispanics rule: Miami. He has been one of the most popular
politicians in Florida's history. Founded some Hispanic group (not for
the poor!!).
------------------------------------------------
(3) O'Donnell: "You Republican strategists are saying: 'How do we undo
this!? Look what we have done to the Latino voters... How can we
possibly get them back?'"
Steve Schmidt, Top Republican Strategist (*), agreeing: "If we [the GOP]
had a deliberate strategy to antagonize every Latino voter in this
country, it is not possible that we could have done a better job".
"The Republican Party cannot be a national party if it doesn't compete
in the Hispanic market - Look at those numbers: we have big, big problems."
(*) Played by Woody Harrelson in the McCain campaign HBO movie.
------------------------------------------------
"With Latinos forming the fastest-growing electoral bloc in the nation,
Armey says the GOP seems to be saying, “Let’s go out and alienate them.”
Armey said socially conservative Latino and African American voters are
natural constituents for the GOP ... if Republicans don’t push them
away. “The party was born with the Emancipation Proclamation,” he said.
But today, he added, “it can’t get a black [or Hispanic] vote to save
its life.” (**)
http://tinyurl.com/6bb6tes
Dick Armey, Founder and Funder of the Tea Party.
(**) I am sure you folks wonder what happened after Mr. Armey made those
sensible statements. The likes of Michelle Bachmann and Glenn Beck told
him to STFU, and he obliged: the angry bagger_mobs drowned his calls for
rationality.
------------------------------------------------
"Of course it is racist! My dad cannot say it, but I can".
-Meghan McCain, born and raised in Arizona, when asked about AZ SB-1070
(aka. "Papiere, bitte").
------------------------------------------------
"Those shithole countries"
- The Pussy Grabber in Chief, temporarily in the House of the People.
------------------------------------------------
"Let them call you racists, wear it as a badge of Honor"
-Steve Bannon
------------------------------------------------

Ramon F Herrera

2018-11-17 05:48:44 UTC

Post by Piotr Mancini
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/women-rule-podcast-cecile-richards-885857

-------------------------------------------------
Which is the party where hatred is most concentrated and distilled, one
wonders?

We don't have to wonder.
Which party throws a tantrum when they can't defeat a Supreme Court
nominee they don't like?
Which party is the party of Antifa?
Which party has the people who believe it is OK to stalk and verbally
assault people in the other party?
Which party has people who try to assassinate members of Congress?
Which party has people who shout down, and even assault campus
speakers they don't like?
Which party views people in the other party as "deplorables" or
"bitter clingers?"
.John

The term "Deplorables" has been sanctioned by the Deplorable in Chief,
who has also said: "I the uneducated".

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201609/the-psychology-behind-donald-trumps-unwavering-support

Additionally, the term "racist" has been declared a badge of honor by
the top appointee to the White House, Steve Bannon. He has since been
sent to Europe as an envoy to address racist organizations and spread
the word of hatred and separation.

https://goo.gl/XXZjck

Finally: Are *you* trying to tell *me* that I don't know the identity of
the party that has its guns pointed at me?

Are you aware of how insulting that is?

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

ps: Do you agree with the mantra among Deplorables (again: term
sanctioned by *your* president) about our universities being a nest of
Marxists, communists? Do you trust our universities, say MIT? Should
they be involved (for the first time in 55+ years) in addressing the
numerical aspects of the most important crime in our history?

pps: Please answer item by item, as a questionnaire in your Harvard days.

John McAdams

2018-11-17 05:50:11 UTC

Post by Piotr Mancini
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/women-rule-podcast-cecile-richards-885857

-------------------------------------------------
Which is the party where hatred is most concentrated and distilled, one
wonders?

We don't have to wonder.
Which party throws a tantrum when they can't defeat a Supreme Court
nominee they don't like?
Which party is the party of Antifa?
Which party has the people who believe it is OK to stalk and verbally
assault people in the other party?
Which party has people who try to assassinate members of Congress?
Which party has people who shout down, and even assault campus
speakers they don't like?
Which party views people in the other party as "deplorables" or
"bitter clingers?"
.John

No party has guns pointed at you. You sound paranoid.

And I'm going to start rejected posts that insert politics that have
nothing to do with the JFK assassination.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Anthony Marsh

2018-11-18 14:27:07 UTC

Post by Piotr Mancini
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/women-rule-podcast-cecile-richards-885857

-------------------------------------------------
Which is the party where hatred is most concentrated and distilled, one
wonders?

We don't have to wonder.
Which party throws a tantrum when they can't defeat a Supreme Court
nominee they don't like?
Which party is the party of Antifa?
Which party has the people who believe it is OK to stalk and verbally
assault people in the other party?
Which party has people who try to assassinate members of Congress?
Which party has people who shout down, and even assault campus
speakers they don't like?
Which party views people in the other party as "deplorables" or
"bitter clingers?"
.John

No party has guns pointed at you. You sound paranoid.

The Republican Party likes to shoot people.

Post by John McAdams
And I'm going to start rejected posts that insert politics that have
nothing to do with the JFK assassination.

WTF? Does that mean that YOU are going to stop posting here? Say it
ain't so, Joe. I would miss your rabid commentary.
What you really mean is that you only allow speech which praises Trump
and the Nazis.

Post by John McAdams
.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Mark

2018-11-19 02:25:36 UTC

Post by Piotr Mancini
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/women-rule-podcast-cecile-richards-885857

-------------------------------------------------
Which is the party where hatred is most concentrated and distilled, one
wonders?

We don't have to wonder.
Which party throws a tantrum when they can't defeat a Supreme Court
nominee they don't like?
Which party is the party of Antifa?
Which party has the people who believe it is OK to stalk and verbally
assault people in the other party?
Which party has people who try to assassinate members of Congress?
Which party has people who shout down, and even assault campus
speakers they don't like?
Which party views people in the other party as "deplorables" or
"bitter clingers?"
.John

No party has guns pointed at you. You sound paranoid.

The Republican Party likes to shoot people.

I guess you're referring to Steve Scalice.

Post by John McAdams
And I'm going to start rejected posts that insert politics that have
nothing to do with the JFK assassination.

I don't know about anybody else, but this kind of continuous juvenile
diatribe reminds me again that he deserves to be ignored.

Mark

Ramon F Herrera

2018-11-18 21:42:24 UTC

Post by John McAdams
No party has guns pointed at you. You sound paranoid.

Loading Image...

-RFH
JFK Nos.

John McAdams

2018-11-19 02:58:11 UTC

Post by John McAdams
No party has guns pointed at you. You sound paranoid.

http://www.jfknumbers.org/~ramon/politics/Guns-R-Us.gif

That's an editorial cartoon. Here is a real gun pointed at a Latino
kid:

Loading Image...

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Mark

2018-11-19 21:23:32 UTC

Post by John McAdams
No party has guns pointed at you. You sound paranoid.

http://www.jfknumbers.org/~ramon/politics/Guns-R-Us.gif

That's an editorial cartoon. Here is a real gun pointed at a Latino
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/06/26/ap_00042201955-1099887aa1180f43a8210f9a429f754126f78373-s1500-c85.jpg
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Oh, Man! Or should I say, ah...snap! Mark

Anthony Marsh

2018-11-20 15:52:14 UTC

Post by John McAdams
No party has guns pointed at you. You sound paranoid.

http://www.jfknumbers.org/~ramon/politics/Guns-R-Us.gif

That's an editorial cartoon. Here is a real gun pointed at a Latino
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/06/26/ap_00042201955-1099887aa1180f43a8210f9a429f754126f78373-s1500-c85.jpg

Looks like a fake. Why would a professional cameraman be situated there
waiting to take such a photo?

Post by John McAdams
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Mark

2018-11-21 15:01:22 UTC

Post by John McAdams
No party has guns pointed at you. You sound paranoid.

http://www.jfknumbers.org/~ramon/politics/Guns-R-Us.gif

That's an editorial cartoon. Here is a real gun pointed at a Latino
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/06/26/ap_00042201955-1099887aa1180f43a8210f9a429f754126f78373-s1500-c85.jpg

Looks like a fake. Why would a professional cameraman be situated there
waiting to take such a photo?

Can Marsh be trusted to get anything right? That picture was given wide
media coverage in 2000. Of course Fidel and Raul made certain Elian got
the finest treatment to make sure he would become a good Cuban socialist.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/elian-gonzalez-leaves-cuba-time-2000-article-1.1542035

Mark

Anthony Marsh

2018-11-22 16:34:34 UTC

Post by John McAdams
No party has guns pointed at you. You sound paranoid.

http://www.jfknumbers.org/~ramon/politics/Guns-R-Us.gif

That's an editorial cartoon. Here is a real gun pointed at a Latino
https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2015/06/26/ap_00042201955-1099887aa1180f43a8210f9a429f754126f78373-s1500-c85.jpg

Looks like a fake. Why would a professional cameraman be situated there
waiting to take such a photo?

Can Marsh be trusted to get anything right? That picture was given wide
media coverage in 2000. Of course Fidel and Raul made certain Elian got
the finest treatment to make sure he would become a good Cuban socialist.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/elian-gonzalez-leaves-cuba-time-2000-article-1.1542035
Mark

Again you don't anser my questions. It looks like they planned it. Why
would the professional cameraman be in that room waitng for the guys with
guns? Was that ICE back in those days? I don't think it's a real candid
photo.

And the fact that you refuse to answer my questions makes me even more
suspicious.

John McAdams

2018-10-13 16:32:26 UTC

Post by Piotr Mancini
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/women-rule-podcast-cecile-richards-885857

http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/politics/GOP-Hates-Women-and-Feeling-is-Mutual.jpg

In 2016 a majority of white women voted for Trump:

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

What I don't think you understand is that the identity politics of the
Democrats -- demeaning males, whites, Christians and so on -- is one
of the reasons Trump won.

Democrats have been saying to a broad swath of the population "we
really hate you," and those folks drew the logical conclusion: vote
for a very questionable candidate who at least doesn't hate you, as
opposed to a very questionable candidate who clearly does.

.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-14 00:58:19 UTC

Post by Piotr Mancini
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/10/women-rule-podcast-cecile-richards-885857

http://www.dealey-plaza.org/~ramon/politics/GOP-Hates-Women-and-Feeling-is-Mutual.jpg

Yes, the KKK still has women in it.

Post by John McAdams
https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls
What I don't think you understand is that the identity politics of the
Democrats -- demeaning males, whites, Christians and so on -- is one
of the reasons Trump won.

Exactly. pointing out their fight against racism gave the racists no
choice about supporting the other party, no matter which moron they chose.
At least it wouldn't be a black man.

Post by John McAdams
Democrats have been saying to a broad swath of the population "we
really hate you," and those folks drew the logical conclusion: vote
for a very questionable candidate who at least doesn't hate you, as
opposed to a very questionable candidate who clearly does.

At least he wasn't black. Maybe a Nazi, but at least a WHITE Nazi.

Post by John McAdams
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Ramon F Herrera

2018-10-15 01:18:28 UTC

Victim shtick, anyone?

See obligatory proposed responses from my automatic debater below.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

ps: Any similarity between the younger generation willing to work elbow
to elbow with people of all ages, genders, races, national origins and
sexual orientations on one hand the definite resolution by young people
of the JFK Numbers is NOT coincidental.

=========================================
"The left hates ideas (which is fine!!!)...
.... the Right, people"
-Moi
=========================================
I am sure you have EVERY reason to feel hated.
=========================================
Why on earth would we Democrats and Liberals have anything against White
people? Why would Obama?

White Americans happen to be:
• The largest source of VOTES
• The largest source of MONEY

for Obama and the Democrats.
=========================================
This is an excellent opportunity to remind the readers about the
Democrat's and Obama's voting base.

I am talking, of course, about the WHITE voters.

By far, most Democrat and Obama voters are White.

Obama and the Democrats get more votes from white folks than from all
races, colors and ethnicities COMBINED.

Therefore, the advice is: Revise your racist notions.
=========================================
You have earned your rubles today, Boris. Say... did you have a chance
to go to any of the World Soccer Cup games?
https://goo.gl/3qTm66
=========================================

John McAdams

2018-10-15 01:23:22 UTC

Victim shtick, anyone?
See obligatory proposed responses from my automatic debater below.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
ps: Any similarity between the younger generation willing to work elbow
to elbow with people of all ages, genders, races, national origins and
sexual orientations on one hand the definite resolution by young people
of the JFK Numbers is NOT coincidental.
=========================================
"The left hates ideas (which is fine!!!)...
.... the Right, people"
-Moi
=========================================
I am sure you have EVERY reason to feel hated.
=========================================
Why on earth would we Democrats and Liberals have anything against White
people? Why would Obama?
The largest source of VOTES
The largest source of MONEY
for Obama and the Democrats.
=========================================
This is an excellent opportunity to remind the readers about the
Democrat's and Obama's voting base.
I am talking, of course, about the WHITE voters.
By far, most Democrat and Obama voters are White.
Obama and the Democrats get more votes from white folks than from all
races, colors and ethnicities COMBINED.
Therefore, the advice is: Revise your racist notions.
=========================================
You have earned your rubles today, Boris. Say... did you have a chance
to go to any of the World Soccer Cup games?
https://goo.gl/3qTm66
=========================================

Interesting, since in the last post white were the evil Republicans
who were going to be swamped by the good, progressive blacks,
Hispanics and so on.

Simple fact: Trump got the majority of white votes in the 2016
election.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls

Now, let's have another post from you about how whites are evil.

.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-16 00:11:09 UTC

Victim shtick, anyone?
See obligatory proposed responses from my automatic debater below.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
ps: Any similarity between the younger generation willing to work elbow
to elbow with people of all ages, genders, races, national origins and
sexual orientations on one hand the definite resolution by young people
of the JFK Numbers is NOT coincidental.
=========================================
"The left hates ideas (which is fine!!!)...
.... the Right, people"
-Moi
=========================================
I am sure you have EVERY reason to feel hated.
=========================================
Why on earth would we Democrats and Liberals have anything against White
people? Why would Obama?
• The largest source of VOTES
• The largest source of MONEY
for Obama and the Democrats.
=========================================
This is an excellent opportunity to remind the readers about the
Democrat's and Obama's voting base.
I am talking, of course, about the WHITE voters.
By far, most Democrat and Obama voters are White.
Obama and the Democrats get more votes from white folks than from all
races, colors and ethnicities COMBINED.
Therefore, the advice is: Revise your racist notions.
=========================================
You have earned your rubles today, Boris. Say... did you have a chance
to go to any of the World Soccer Cup games?
https://goo.gl/3qTm66
=========================================

Interesting, since in the last post white were the evil Republicans

Is that a typo? Did you mean to say WHITES as a race, not just the color
WHITE? Not ALL WHITES are evil and not all Republicans are EVIL.
Did you intend to make the point that all WHITE Republicans are EVIL?
That could be fun to debate, but you have define it and limit it to today.

Post by John McAdams
who were going to be swamped by the good, progressive blacks,
Hispanics and so on.

Swamped by White College-educated women who tried Trump and are fed up
with him. It's not that they mind being raped, it's just that he's so
sloppy the way he does it.

Post by John McAdams
Simple fact: Trump got the majority of white votes in the 2016
election.
https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls
Now, let's have another post from you about how whites are evil.

ALL WHITES, everywhere, all the time? That's a lot of work. Most are
just too lazy to be evil all the time.

Post by John McAdams
.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Jason Burke

2018-10-16 00:03:31 UTC

Victim shtick, anyone?
See obligatory proposed responses from my automatic debater below.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
ps: Any similarity between the younger generation willing to work elbow
to elbow with people of all ages, genders, races, national origins and
sexual orientations on one hand the definite resolution by young people
of the JFK Numbers is NOT coincidental.
=========================================
"The left hates ideas (which is fine!!!)...
.... the Right, people"
-Moi
=========================================
I am sure you have EVERY reason to feel hated.
=========================================
Why on earth would we Democrats and Liberals have anything against White
people? Why would Obama?
• The largest source of VOTES
• The largest source of MONEY
for Obama and the Democrats.
=========================================
This is an excellent opportunity to remind the readers about the
Democrat's and Obama's voting base.
I am talking, of course, about the WHITE voters.
By far, most Democrat and Obama voters are White.
Obama and the Democrats get more votes from white folks than from all
races, colors and ethnicities COMBINED.
Therefore, the advice is: Revise your racist notions.
=========================================
You have earned your rubles today, Boris. Say... did you have a chance
to go to any of the World Soccer Cup games?
https://goo.gl/3qTm66
=========================================

Does this due just use a random phrase generator?
He certainly uses a random name generator.

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-16 23:55:21 UTC

Victim shtick, anyone?
See obligatory proposed responses from my automatic debater below.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
ps: Any similarity between the younger generation willing to work
elbow to elbow with people of all ages, genders, races, national
origins and sexual orientations on one hand the definite resolution by
young people of the JFK Numbers is NOT coincidental.
=========================================
"The left hates ideas (which is fine!!!)...
.... the Right, people"
-Moi
=========================================
I am sure you have EVERY reason to feel hated.
=========================================
Why on earth would we Democrats and Liberals have anything against
White people? Why would Obama?
• The largest source of VOTES
• The largest source of MONEY
for Obama and the Democrats.
=========================================
This is an excellent opportunity to remind the readers about the
Democrat's and Obama's voting base.
I am talking, of course, about the WHITE voters.
By far, most Democrat and Obama voters are White.
Obama and the Democrats get more votes from white folks than from all
races, colors and ethnicities COMBINED.
Therefore, the advice is: Revise your racist notions.
=========================================
You have earned your rubles today, Boris. Say... did you have a chance
to go to any of the World Soccer Cup games?
https://goo.gl/3qTm66
=========================================

Does this due just use a random phrase generator?
He certainly uses a random name generator.

He has pre-programmed memes on his function keys.

Ramon F Herrera

2018-10-17 14:29:30 UTC

Obsequiously supporting his master,

Does this dude just use a random phrase generator?
He certainly uses a random name generator.

Actually, my world famous forum debater against the Deplorables has worked
against the esteemed LNs (two groups with a high degree of overlap) so
well that I am fine tuning it in order to make an automated LN debating
generator.

The most used comment?

"You believe in science and the power of the numbers and petitions, right?
After all, it is a right consecrated in our Constitution (Right to
Petition for Redress of Grievances).

If there is a petition to have the ultimate authoritative entities (MIT,
Stanford, worldwide centers of scientific research, etc.) working toward
the clarification of the JFK Numbers...

.... would you support it?"

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_petition

bigdog

2018-10-14 00:51:15 UTC

[Purina Chow's Poster Puppy wrote:]

Post by bigdog
Is it your belief that all women are pro-choice, that all minorities and
young people are Democrats?

That's a lot of verbiage to avoid answering a question that could have
simply been answered YES or NO.

Ramon F Herrera

2018-10-15 01:27:33 UTC

Post by bigdog
That's a lot of verbiage to avoid answering a question that could have
simply been answered YES or NO.

See response proposed by my notorious automated debater below.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

================================
Why exactly should I follow your indications on the weaponry allowed in
and wielded from *my* arsenal?

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-13 03:49:47 UTC

zi don't get the comparison.
Are you trying to imply that most doctors are white men? You just
figured this out?

Post by Piotr Mancini
-Ramon The Disorganizer and Agitator
JFK Numbers
(*) and gals of course, but I don't see one. It is evident that this NG is
moderated by a Republican.

Amy Joyce

2018-10-16 23:51:41 UTC

If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-18 02:03:32 UTC

If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

Silly. Democrats do not pay protestors. Stop misrepresenting events for
political points. Is your point that the Democrats have no chance in 2020?
Is that because your dictatorship will be in place by 2020. You should
start worrying about 2018.

Why don't you come up with another phony theory like the Democrats killed
the reporter in the Saudi consulate to stir up trouble for Trump? Please,
try to get more creative.

John McAdams

2018-10-18 02:06:14 UTC

On 17 Oct 2018 22:03:32 -0400, Anthony Marsh

If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

Silly. Democrats do not pay protestors.

I think it is true that individual protestors are not paid, although
I've seen evidence that their bail money is provided.

But big bucks leftists are supporting the riots with money.

https://nypost.com/2018/10/01/look-who-was-behind-the-jeff-flake-elevator-setup/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/george-soross-march-on-washington-1538951025

.John
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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-19 17:56:02 UTC

Post by John McAdams
On 17 Oct 2018 22:03:32 -0400, Anthony Marsh

If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

Silly. Democrats do not pay protestors.

I don't get your point. Are you saying that the elevator encounter was a
RIOT or that Jeff Flack's fake performance was a real riot? Did somebody
drive over him with a Dodge or did he try to Dodge the two women?

Post by John McAdams
https://www.wsj.com/articles/george-soross-march-on-washington-1538951025

XSS Cross script hijacking attempt

To Read the Full Story SUBCRIBE

No thanks.
Now, can you explain how you are allowed to hijack this newsgroup to
vent your extreme rightwing conspiracy theories?
We get that you hate Soros. BFD. You don't show any proof of anything,
just paranoid delusions.

Post by John McAdams
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

John McAdams

2018-10-19 17:59:05 UTC

On 19 Oct 2018 13:56:02 -0400, Anthony Marsh

Post by John McAdams
On 17 Oct 2018 22:03:32 -0400, Anthony Marsh

If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

Silly. Democrats do not pay protestors.

Post by John McAdams
https://www.wsj.com/articles/george-soross-march-on-washington-1538951025

XSS Cross script hijacking attempt
To Read the Full Story SUBCRIBE
No thanks.
Now, can you explain how you are allowed to hijack this newsgroup to
vent your extreme rightwing conspiracy theories?
We get that you hate Soros. BFD. You don't show any proof of anything,
just paranoid delusions.

Look to the top.

It was Ramon who made the political post, mixed in with just a bit of
JFK stuff, so I approved it.

But the Amy responded to the political part, which she had every right
to do.

The NEW YORK POST and WALL STREET JOURNAL articles were solid
information.

.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-20 14:43:07 UTC

Post by John McAdams
On 19 Oct 2018 13:56:02 -0400, Anthony Marsh

Post by John McAdams
On 17 Oct 2018 22:03:32 -0400, Anthony Marsh

If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

Silly. Democrats do not pay protestors.

Post by John McAdams
https://www.wsj.com/articles/george-soross-march-on-washington-1538951025

XSS Cross script hijacking attempt
To Read the Full Story SUBCRIBE
No thanks.
Now, can you explain how you are allowed to hijack this newsgroup to
vent your extreme rightwing conspiracy theories?
We get that you hate Soros. BFD. You don't show any proof of anything,
just paranoid delusions.

Look to the top.
It was Ramon who made the political post, mixed in with just a bit of
JFK stuff, so I approved it.
But the Amy responded to the political part, which she had every right
to do.
The NEW YORK POST and WALL STREET JOURNAL articles were solid
information.

Just paranoid delusions from Gingrich.

Post by John McAdams
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Ramon F Herrera

2018-10-22 01:09:45 UTC

Post by John McAdams
Look to the top.
It was Ramon who made the political post, mixed in with just a bit of
JFK stuff, so I approved it.
.John
-----------------------

For a long time, many misguided and/or clueless -perhaps with good
intentions, the pavement to you know where- people and groups have been
trying to claim that the positions respect to JFK and political ideology
are not related, or very little.

After telling them (Newman, Morley, CAPA): "That is bullshit. We are
partisan. Very." I provide evidence.

In the Houston Trial of Lee during the banquet, the loudest, standing
ovations were after the guest of honor, Alec Baldwin stated:

"Step number one: to remove that idiot from the White House"

After the event I -a dues paying CAPA member against my wishes- asked in
their website: "Do we have the video or audio?" and "Don't we owe the
contents of that event to The People"?

No reply.

Always the futurist, I unsuccessfully tried to post here stuff about the
recently ignited immigration issue (circa 2007) and they were all blocked.
Another from a overly racist (which I actually respect at least they are
not hypocrites) celebrating the murder of Kennedy. I tracked down his
e-mail address: Guy-***@something.

http://www.wbur.org/news/2009/08/27/kennedy-immigration

I am glad to see that we are making progress in that respect. Not to
mention the fact that this is the only relevant JFK forum from which I
am not banned.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

ps: Ironically, guess who was supposed to be supervising/helping the
camera people? That's right, Moi. Bill Kelly told me that there were not
enough rooms (all reserved for the Big Wigs: Wechts, Aguilar, Mantik,
etc.) and "If I had been able to go, I would have crashed in your couch".
About the camera duties, I replied to my e-boss the exact same words that
I told my former, Jeff Morley when we called me at home, pleading for the
existence of JFK Facts. He also wanted my rather crappy video editing
skills ("one per week") and as translator.

"I am sorry, chief, but I have a bigger fish to fry".

In Houston, the fishes were The Notables who I had to meet, lobby,
pressure to move their fat assets. Aguilar first words: "Vamos a ver".
Merrily, for some reason all my requests seem to be approved lately:

Loading Image...

PBS, Scientific Analysis, JFK Library, National Archives, CAPA and
others which I will take under advisement.

bigdog

2018-10-23 21:02:15 UTC

Post by John McAdams
Look to the top.
It was Ramon who made the political post, mixed in with just a bit of
JFK stuff, so I approved it.
.John
-----------------------

Did he say how? Was he referring to the 2020 election or talking about
overturning the 2016 election?

Post by Ramon F Herrera
After the event I -a dues paying CAPA member against my wishes- asked in
their website: "Do we have the video or audio?" and "Don't we owe the
contents of that event to The People"?
No reply.

Gee, your own people are ignoring you. Hint, hint.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
Always the futurist, I unsuccessfully tried to post here stuff about the
recently ignited immigration issue (circa 2007) and they were all blocked.
Another from a overly racist (which I actually respect at least they are
not hypocrites) celebrating the murder of Kennedy. I tracked down his
http://www.wbur.org/news/2009/08/27/kennedy-immigration
I am glad to see that we are making progress in that respect. Not to
mention the fact that this is the only relevant JFK forum from which I
am not banned.

That should be another hint.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
ps: Ironically, guess who was supposed to be supervising/helping the
camera people? That's right, Moi. Bill Kelly told me that there were not
enough rooms (all reserved for the Big Wigs: Wechts, Aguilar, Mantik,
etc.) and "If I had been able to go, I would have crashed in your couch".
About the camera duties, I replied to my e-boss the exact same words that
I told my former, Jeff Morley when we called me at home, pleading for the
existence of JFK Facts. He also wanted my rather crappy video editing
skills ("one per week") and as translator.
"I am sorry, chief, but I have a bigger fish to fry".
In Houston, the fishes were The Notables who I had to meet, lobby,
pressure to move their fat assets. Aguilar first words: "Vamos a ver".
http://www.jfknumbers.org/~ramon/jfk/Donations-to-CAPA-Are-Now-Tax-Deductible.png
PBS, Scientific Analysis, JFK Library, National Archives, CAPA and
others which I will take under advisement.

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-25 13:44:53 UTC

Post by John McAdams
Look to the top.
It was Ramon who made the political post, mixed in with just a bit of
JFK stuff, so I approved it.
.John
-----------------------

Did he say how? Was he referring to the 2020 election or talking about
overturning the 2016 election?

Neither. Today. 25th amendment. We can't wait until 2020.
We might be dead by then. I don't think they allow dead people to vote.

Gee, your own people are ignoring you. Hint, hint.

That should be another hint.

Jason Burke

2018-10-18 18:35:09 UTC

If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

Silly. Democrats do not pay protestors.

Dang. I think Anthony Anthony thinks he's actually serious...

Post by Anthony Marsh
Stop misrepresenting events for
political points. Is your point that the Democrats have no chance in
2020? Is that because your dictatorship will be in place by 2020. You
should start worrying about 2018.
Why don't you come up with another phony theory like the Democrats
killed the reporter in the Saudi consulate to stir up trouble for Trump?
Please, try to get more creative.

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-19 18:01:04 UTC

If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

Silly. Democrats do not pay protestors.

Dang. I think Anthony Anthony thinks he's actually serious...

I know they don't. So once you start this line of attack is it OK for me
to say that Trump pays for fake crowds?

Home / Money & Career /
How Much Does Trump Pay People to Cheer at His Rallies?

Barri Segal | More Articles

March 4, 2018

The practice of hiring paid crowds ??? also known as ???astroturfing???
??? is not new. The concept of there being popular support ??? or at least
an illusion of it ??? at courts, theaters, games, funerals, and politics
goes as far back as the Greeks and Romans. In fact, Nero paid a group to
watch him sing ??? and applaud loudly, of course ??? in the theater.

Donald Trump was accused of breaking the law during his campaign by hiring
paid actors to attend his rallies. Although the Federal Election
Commission dismissed the charges, a lot of U.S. citizens haven???t. Read
evidence that points to the fact that Trump really did hire actors to
support him, and other interesting facts about the ???tradition.???
1. It appears Trump really did hire people to come to rallies

Trump paid people to cheer him as he announced his candidacy at Trump
Tower in June 2015. | Christopher Gregory/Getty Images

Trump has been accused of using actors during his campaign since he
announced he would run for president in June 2015. What???s worse is that
he paid them a measly $50 apiece to come out and cheer, according to
Business Insider. Corey Lewandowski, Trump???s campaign manager at the
time, denied the charges and in an interview with Business Insider said,
?????? It???s just not true, unequivocally. The Donald Trump campaign and
Donald Trump did not pay anybody to attend his announcement.???

The American Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint in 2015 with the
Federal Election Commission, saying that Trump should have disclosed the
fact that he paid people. And because he didn???t, he was breaking the
rules regarding reporting provisions.

The commission closed the case, saying that the Trump campaign admitted it
paid $12,000 to Gotham Government Relations on October 8. Gotham hired
Extra Mile ??? a full-service event and incentive marketing company ???
with that money so it could ???provide administrative support at Trump???s
announcement.???

Next: It only gets worse for Trump.
2. Trump never actually paid his bill
donald trump meeting with the press at the white house

Trump stiffed his hired supporters. | Dietsch-Pool/Getty Images

According to The Washington Post, Trump???s campaign never paid Gotham the
$12,000 it was owed until a month after the FEC received a complaint. What
makes that even worse is that during the four months that Trump wasn???t
paying his bill, Gotham was actually ???loaning money??? to the campaign
??? which could be construed as a contribution.

Next: Trump is not alone.
3. Others have created the illusion of grassroots enthusiasm
Trump supporters Georgia

Trump supporters, or paid Trump supporters? | Mark Wallheiser/Getty Images

According to The Atlantic, politically paid support can actually turn into
genuine support. As the candidate gets more media coverage for his
campaign ??? because he seems popular ??? voters might change their minds
as they become more aware of him and get to know his policies better.

Many political candidates have been accused of astroturfing. For example,
The Tea Party movement???s left-leaning adversaries accused it of using
the practice when it was in its formative years. And George W. Bush faced
the same accusation when a newspaper editor received letters of support
from Bush???s own website.

Next: These actors were hired for jeers, not cheers.
4. Astroturfing at political protests
Ohio Statehouse

Unions have been hiring protestors for years. | Mike Munden/Getty Images

The New York Times reported in 2015 that a group of anti-gay marriage
???protesters??? at the NYC Pride Parade were fakes. The group turned out to
be a bunch of hired day laborers.

Unions have been astroturfing for years. The Mid-Atlantic Regional
Council of Carpenters routinely pays people to walk in picket lines when
local unions strike. Many of the hired hands are temporary workers and
homeless people.

Next: Find out who does this kind of work.
5. Who do you call to fill a room?
Smiling people waving American flags and looking up in crowd

Real crowd or paid stand-ins? | Martin Barraud/Getty Images

It???s simple to arrange for a crowd at an event ??? Crowds on Demand, a
company based in Los Angeles, can rent out a crowd for anything from a
rally to a protest. Founded in 2012 by UCLA graduate Adam Swart, it???s
one of the few of these types of companies. Crowds for Rent and Extra Mile
Casting (the one Trump ???inadvertently??? hired) pretty much have the
market to themselves.

Crowds on Demand can provide more than 1,000 people for an event, and
its services don???t stop there. The company creates PR stunts like
providing a 100-person flash mob for a corporate event and having fake
paparazzi chase clients to generate some buzz.

Next: Here???s how much it costs.

Post by Anthony Marsh
Stop misrepresenting events for political points. Is your point that
the Democrats have no chance in 2020? Is that because your
dictatorship will be in place by 2020. You should start worrying about
2018.
Why don't you come up with another phony theory like the Democrats
killed the reporter in the Saudi consulate to stir up trouble for
Trump? Please, try to get more creative.

Jason Burke

2018-10-20 00:15:55 UTC

If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

Silly. Democrats do not pay protestors.

Dang. I think Anthony Anthony thinks he's actually serious...

I know they don't.

Sure, Anthony Anthony. You the great and powerful Oz!
You're actually getting quite boring.
You do realize no one is buying your BS.
Don't you?

Post by Anthony Marsh
So once you start this line of attack is it OK for me
to say that Trump pays for fake crowds?
Home / Money & Career /
How Much Does Trump Pay People to Cheer at His Rallies?
Barri Segal | More Articles
March 4, 2018
The practice of hiring paid crowds ??? also known as ???astroturfing???
??? is not new. The concept of there being popular support ??? or at
least an illusion of it ??? at courts, theaters, games, funerals, and
politics goes as far back as the Greeks and Romans. In fact, Nero paid a
group to watch him sing ??? and applaud loudly, of course ??? in the
theater.
Donald Trump was accused of breaking the law during his campaign by
hiring paid actors to attend his rallies. Although the Federal Election
Commission dismissed the charges, a lot of U.S. citizens haven???t. Read
evidence that points to the fact that Trump really did hire actors to
support him, and other interesting facts about the ???tradition.???
1. It appears Trump really did hire people to come to rallies
Trump paid people to cheer him as he announced his candidacy at Trump
Tower in June 2015. | Christopher Gregory/Getty Images
Trump has been accused of using actors during his campaign since he
announced he would run for president in June 2015. What???s worse is
that he paid them a measly $50 apiece to come out and cheer, according
to Business Insider. Corey Lewandowski, Trump???s campaign manager at
the time, denied the charges and in an interview with Business Insider
said, ?????? It???s just not true, unequivocally. The Donald Trump
campaign and Donald Trump did not pay anybody to attend his
announcement.???
The American Democracy Legal Fund filed a complaint in 2015 with the
Federal Election Commission, saying that Trump should have disclosed the
fact that he paid people. And because he didn???t, he was breaking the
rules regarding reporting provisions.
The commission closed the case, saying that the Trump campaign admitted
it paid $12,000 to Gotham Government Relations on October 8. Gotham
hired Extra Mile ??? a full-service event and incentive marketing
company ??? with that money so it could ???provide administrative
support at Trump???s announcement.???
Next: It only gets worse for Trump.
2. Trump never actually paid his bill
donald trump meeting with the press at the white house
Trump stiffed his hired supporters. | Dietsch-Pool/Getty Images
According to The Washington Post, Trump???s campaign never paid Gotham
the $12,000 it was owed until a month after the FEC received a
complaint. What makes that even worse is that during the four months
that Trump wasn???t paying his bill, Gotham was actually ???loaning
money??? to the campaign ??? which could be construed as a contribution.
Next: Trump is not alone.
3. Others have created the illusion of grassroots enthusiasm
Trump supporters Georgia
Trump supporters, or paid Trump supporters? | Mark Wallheiser/Getty Images
According to The Atlantic, politically paid support can actually turn
into genuine support. As the candidate gets more media coverage for his
campaign ??? because he seems popular ??? voters might change their
minds as they become more aware of him and get to know his policies better.
Many political candidates have been accused of astroturfing. For
example, The Tea Party movement???s left-leaning adversaries accused it
of using the practice when it was in its formative years. And George W.
Bush faced the same accusation when a newspaper editor received letters
of support from Bush???s own website.
Next: These actors were hired for jeers, not cheers.
4. Astroturfing at political protests
Ohio Statehouse
Unions have been hiring protestors for years. | Mike Munden/Getty Images
The New York Times reported in 2015 that a group of anti-gay marriage
???protesters??? at the NYC Pride Parade were fakes. The group turned
out to be a bunch of hired day laborers.
Unions have been astroturfing for years. The Mid-Atlantic Regional
Council of Carpenters routinely pays people to walk in picket lines when
local unions strike. Many of the hired hands are temporary workers and
homeless people.
Next: Find out who does this kind of work.
5. Who do you call to fill a room?
Smiling people waving American flags and looking up in crowd
Real crowd or paid stand-ins? | Martin Barraud/Getty Images
It???s simple to arrange for a crowd at an event ??? Crowds on Demand, a
company based in Los Angeles, can rent out a crowd for anything from a
rally to a protest. Founded in 2012 by UCLA graduate Adam Swart, it???s
one of the few of these types of companies. Crowds for Rent and Extra
Mile Casting (the one Trump ???inadvertently??? hired) pretty much have
the market to themselves.
Crowds on Demand can provide more than 1,000 people for an event, and
its services don???t stop there. The company creates PR stunts like
providing a 100-person flash mob for a corporate event and having fake
paparazzi chase clients to generate some buzz.
Next: Here???s how much it costs.

Post by Anthony Marsh
Stop misrepresenting events for political points. Is your point that
the Democrats have no chance in 2020? Is that because your
dictatorship will be in place by 2020. You should start worrying
about 2018.
Why don't you come up with another phony theory like the Democrats
killed the reporter in the Saudi consulate to stir up trouble for
Trump? Please, try to get more creative.

bigdog

2018-10-18 02:10:47 UTC

If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

The Democrat Party has moved too far to the left to suit middle Americans
and it seems intent on going farther left. There was a time when the
liberal Democrats were actually reasonable people. Those days are long
gone.

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-19 18:01:16 UTC

If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

That's partially true because of Obama, but we still have the majority.

Ramon F Herrera

2018-10-18 02:21:57 UTC

Post by Amy Joyce
If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

"our company would be fired. I estimate that we can do your Dealey Plaza
work for between $500K to $750K. [Larry Schnapf was not happy with that
quotation, told me to send them to Hades]

"My recommendation is that you persuade Bill Gates to sponsor your
project."

My reply:

"Even if Bill Gates (Soros, the Kennedys discreetly) gave me a check I
would politely reject it:

"My credo: Sex and militant work are better and more enjoyable when done
for love than for money"

Obviously our esteemed Amy disagrees. Must have some experience in the
matter (of activism) that I don't.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

ps: "Joyce"? As in "Joy"? You surely jest. A well known principle of you
Alt. Righties, followers of the Pussy Grabber in Chief is: "The Pursuit
of Unhappiness". You are a perfect exponent.

Jason Burke

2018-10-18 18:35:31 UTC

Post by Amy Joyce
If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

Amy: Other than your feverish imagination (and wishes, of course), do
you have anything to back up your assertions? Any authoritative sources?
It is your contention that people are incapable of doing activism unless
money exchanges hands. That much is obvious.
That must be the greatest news for you, as an LN, a person who obviously
is not interested in seeing the JFK Numbers clarified by the
authoritative entities. I guess I have no choice but to send everybody
home and close shop, since I don't have mucho dinero. :-(
[Maybe the Kochs, Haags, Myers or Sturdivan will pay me well if I
promise to tweak the distances and angles? And privatize the project, of
course.]
An engineer who specializes in digitalization of X-rays (with house
visits) and does extremely detailed 3D models for the US military,
"Ramon, you will only need 1/8" accuracy. If I did that with this, our
http://www.jfknumbers.org/~ramon/jfk/Aerospace-Accuracy-Standard.png
"our company would be fired. I estimate that we can do your Dealey Plaza
work for between $500K to $750K. [Larry Schnapf was not happy with that
quotation, told me to send them to Hades]
"My recommendation is that you persuade Bill Gates to sponsor your
project."
"Even if Bill Gates (Soros, the Kennedys discreetly) gave me a check I
"My credo: Sex and militant work are better and more enjoyable when done
for love than for money"
Obviously our esteemed Amy disagrees. Must have some experience in the
matter (of activism) that I don't.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
ps: "Joyce"? As in "Joy"? You surely jest. A well known principle of you
Alt. Righties, followers of the Pussy Grabber in Chief is: "The Pursuit
of Unhappiness". You are a perfect exponent.

Random phrase generator again.

Ramon F Herrera

2018-10-19 18:46:22 UTC

Post by Jason Burke
Random phrase generator again.

I dare you to find *one* forum participant that supports your contention.

It will be interesting to see who is willing to attach their credibility
to yours.

A reminder to folks of all persuasions respect to the crime and
political ideologies:

The most valuable possession of an individual or entity is their
reputation and credibility.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

Ramon F Herrera

2018-10-22 00:52:55 UTC

Hold the presses! I have a much, much better, smart ass reply to Jason
The Insolent.

Post by Jason Burke
Random phrase generator again.

Given a large number of typing monkeys and a large number of years (say,
55), eventually one of them will write the Great American Novel.

Q.E.D.

-Ramon The Monkey That Hit The Jackpot Much to His Own Amazement
JFK Numbers

References:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

Jason Burke

2018-10-22 23:34:51 UTC

Post by Ramon F Herrera
Hold the presses! I have a much, much better, smart ass reply to Jason
The Insolent.

Post by Jason Burke
Random phrase generator again.

Given a large number of typing monkeys and a large number of years (say,
55), eventually one of them will write the Great American Novel.
Q.E.D.
-Ramon The Monkey That Hit The Jackpot Much to His Own Amazement
JFK Numbers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

Sooo, ya still got nuffin', eh, Ramon, Pitor, Ringo, Paul, George, John,
whoever?

Amy Joyce

2018-10-19 01:52:53 UTC

Post by Amy Joyce
If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

Amy: Other than your feverish imagination (and wishes, of course), do
you have anything to back up your assertions? Any authoritative sources?
It is your contention that people are incapable of doing activism unless
money exchanges hands. That much is obvious.
That must be the greatest news for you, as an LN, a person who obviously
is not interested in seeing the JFK Numbers clarified by the authoritative
entities. I guess I have no choice but to send everybody home and close
shop, since I don't have mucho dinero. :-(
[Maybe the Kochs, Haags, Myers or Sturdivan will pay me well if I
promise to tweak the distances and angles? And privatize the project, of
course.]
An engineer who specializes in digitalization of X-rays (with house
visits) and does extremely detailed 3D models for the US military,
"Ramon, you will only need 1/8" accuracy. If I did that with this, our
http://www.jfknumbers.org/~ramon/jfk/Aerospace-Accuracy-Standard.png
"our company would be fired. I estimate that we can do your Dealey Plaza
work for between $500K to $750K. [Larry Schnapf was not happy with that
quotation, told me to send them to Hades]
"My recommendation is that you persuade Bill Gates to sponsor your
project."
"Even if Bill Gates (Soros, the Kennedys discreetly) gave me a check I
"My credo: Sex and militant work are better and more enjoyable when done
for love than for money"
Obviously our esteemed Amy disagrees. Must have some experience in the
matter (of activism) that I don't.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
ps: "Joyce"? As in "Joy"? You surely jest. A well known principle of you
Alt. Righties, followers of the Pussy Grabber in Chief is: "The Pursuit
of Unhappiness". You are a perfect exponent.

Projection: If you're not a proponent of the radical left you are a) A LN
b) a member of the alt-right and a Trump cultist.

Are you sure Ramon?

Anyway:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-paid-protesters-huppke-20170227-story.html

Of course not all protesters are paid. Some people get caught up in the
frenzy while others are brainwashed and have too much time on their hands.
Believe all women no matter what? Half the zombies pounding on the Senate
doors and cornering innocent Senators in elevators were paid. And as an
adult woman I've spent man years in women's bathrooms and locker rooms and
can testify to overhearing lunatic fringe feminists brag about their
control over men.

Do some research about paid protesting. There is an abundance of proof
out there but as usual the liberal media won't report it.

Ramon F Herrera

2018-10-19 18:47:56 UTC

Post by Ramon F Herrera
"My credo: Sex and militant work are better and more enjoyable when done
for love than for money"
Obviously our esteemed Amy disagrees. Must have some experience in the
matter (of activism) that I don't.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers

Do some research about paid protesting. There is an abundance of proof
out there but as usual the liberal media won't report it.

In the JFK case, in politics and in general we are all searching for The
Truth, correct?

When it comes to the truth, the only possible reference is our
universities. That is trivially easy to prove.

The better the school, the more Liberal.

Do you dispute the above?

Finally, since you definitely despise our media, the best, most respected
in the world, how do you feel about out universities? Would you invite the
top ones to enter the JFK case and work on the numbers?

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

Amy Joyce

2018-10-20 00:40:39 UTC

Do some research about paid protesting. There is an abundance of proof
out there but as usual the liberal media won't report it.

In the JFK case, in politics and in general we are all searching for The
Truth, correct?
When it comes to the truth, the only possible reference is our
universities. That is trivially easy to prove.
The better the school, the more Liberal.
Do you dispute the above?
Finally, since you definitely despise our media, the best, most respected
in the world, how do you feel about out universities? Would you invite the
top ones to enter the JFK case and work on the numbers?
-Ramon
JFK Numbers

Modern liberalism is a joke.

Most of our media is currently a joke. Years ago it employed respectable,
investigative reporting but they are now owned by agenda driven Marxists
that are bias. I've even busted CNN and CBS for lying. America's
universities should stay out of politics completely. No I don't believe
they would take an honest approach to researching JFK.

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-22 00:52:23 UTC

Do some research about paid protesting. There is an abundance of proof
out there but as usual the liberal media won't report it.

In the JFK case, in politics and in general we are all searching for The
Truth, correct?
When it comes to the truth, the only possible reference is our
universities. That is trivially easy to prove.
The better the school, the more Liberal.
Do you dispute the above?
Finally, since you definitely despise our media, the best, most respected
in the world, how do you feel about out universities? Would you invite the
top ones to enter the JFK case and work on the numbers?
-Ramon
JFK Numbers

Such as?
Every time you comment you come across as farther and farther to the
right. There is no much more room left for you to move to the right.

Post by Amy Joyce
universities should stay out of politics completely. No I don't believe
they would take an honest approach to researching JFK.

bigdog

2018-10-20 22:08:04 UTC

Do some research about paid protesting. There is an abundance of proof
out there but as usual the liberal media won't report it.

In the JFK case, in politics and in general we are all searching for The
Truth, correct?

Incorrect. Many of us found the truth a long time ago and we are amazed so
many of you can't figure it out.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
When it comes to the truth, the only possible reference is our
universities. That is trivially easy to prove.

Universities have agendas. Most of them have liberal agendas.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal.
Do you dispute the above?

Absolutely.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
Finally, since you definitely despise our media, the best, most respected
in the world, how do you feel about out universities? Would you invite the
top ones to enter the JFK case and work on the numbers?

Our media is respected by the leftists. Why wouldn't they? They are both
on the same side. It's always been that way but they used to pretend to be
objective. Now they don't even bother with that. In 30 seconds you can
tell what the agenda is for virtually every talking head at both the
networks and the cable news channels.

Mark

2018-10-22 04:51:51 UTC

Do some research about paid protesting. There is an abundance of proof
out there but as usual the liberal media won't report it.

In the JFK case, in politics and in general we are all searching for The
Truth, correct?

Incorrect. Many of us found the truth a long time ago and we are amazed so
many of you can't figure it out.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
When it comes to the truth, the only possible reference is our
universities. That is trivially easy to prove.

Universities have agendas. Most of them have liberal agendas.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal.
Do you dispute the above?

Absolutely.

He doesn't get it. Between his leftwing identity politics, and his
torturous way of expressing himself, my eyes glaze over.

Mark

Ramon F Herrera

2018-11-15 21:11:26 UTC

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal.
Do you dispute the above?

Absolutely.

Care to produce some examples of the great American universities which
are on your side? I know of three:

- Washington University (my disowned Alma Mater. My adoptive one, MIT,
is better. For starters there is no racism, only the purest elitist
meritocracy)

- "Liberty" University. The irony, the cynicism, the insult to that
sacred word.

- Brigham Young University, where they teach Mohabed jsd lives in a
planet, Krypton?

Are there any others? Please don't include the typical

"School of Motorcycle and Motor Home Maintenance and Repair"

preferred by Trump voters, with a Dixie flag on top, of course.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

John McAdams

2018-11-15 21:14:09 UTC

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal.
Do you dispute the above?

Absolutely.

Care to produce some examples of the great American universities which
- Washington University (my disowned Alma Mater. My adoptive one, MIT,
is better. For starters there is no racism, only the purest elitist
meritocracy)
- "Liberty" University. The irony, the cynicism, the insult to that
sacred word.
- Brigham Young University, where they teach Mohabed jsd lives in a
planet, Krypton?
Are there any others? Please don't include the typical
"School of Motorcycle and Motor Home Maintenance and Repair"
preferred by Trump voters, with a Dixie flag on top, of course.

You know essentially nothing about academia.

Elite universities are not home to conspiracy theories, and certainly
not JFK conspiracy theories.

Whenever top-notch technical expertise has been applied to the
assassination, it has reinforced the LN theory.

.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Ramon F Herrera

2018-11-16 15:15:03 UTC

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal.
Do you dispute the above?

Absolutely.

Care to produce some examples of the great American universities which
- Washington University (my disowned Alma Mater. My adoptive one, MIT,
is better. For starters there is no racism, only the purest elitist
meritocracy)
- "Liberty" University. The irony, the cynicism, the insult to that
sacred word.
- Brigham Young University, where they teach that God lives in a
planet, Krypton, Kolob? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob
Are there any others? Please don't include the typical
"School of Motorcycle and Motor Home Maintenance and Repair"
preferred by Trump voters, with a Dixie flag on top, of course.

You know essentially nothing about academia.

Exactly. You are 110% correct. That is precisely the main strength of my
unprecedented proposal: Humility. Always defer questions to the most
Authoritative Institutions. For too long we have had too many self
proclaimed "experts" on both sides.

It is not science until MIT (*) is involved.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

(*) Et al.: Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Oxford ... Heck, even that
community college across Mass Av, Harvard. Furthermore: I am planning to
invite the Boston University School of Engineering, so see what they
have to say about the job by this trio:

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Anthony Marsh

2018-11-17 16:05:45 UTC

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal.
Do you dispute the above?

Absolutely.

You know essentially nothing about academia.
Elite universities are not home to conspiracy theories, and certainly
not JFK conspiracy theories.

So you say that elite universities are the homes of the cover-up? Then is
it only junior colleges or flaky jhippy colleges which are the home of
conspiracy theories? How do you know which camp they fall into just by the
name of the course? Did you think that Ken Rahn's course was a home for
consiracy theories? Think twice. I lectured at his course.

Post by John McAdams
Whenever top-notch technical expertise has been applied to the
assassination, it has reinforced the LN theory.

Such as what? High class lies?
You wish that you had credentials like the acoustical scientists.
Hand picked by the Acoustical Society of America.

Post by John McAdams
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Mark

2018-11-16 15:02:13 UTC

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal.
Do you dispute the above?

Absolutely.

What a selfish, pompous, elitist post. Like I said before, you just
can't stop yourself. Sure buddy, I'm gonna sign up with you.

Mark

John McAdams

2018-11-16 15:14:20 UTC

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal.
Do you dispute the above?

Absolutely.

What a selfish, pompous, elitist post. Like I said before, you just
can't stop yourself. Sure buddy, I'm gonna sign up with you.

The problem with Ramon is that he slathers his political biases all
over the issue.

He thinks Trump voters are evil, but Trump voters are just slightly
*more* likely to believe in a JFK conspiracy than Hillary voters --
61% to 59%.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-one-thing-in-politics-most-americans-believe-in-jfk-conspiracies/

Republicans and Democrats are equally likely to believe in a
conspiracy -- 60% Republicans and 61% Democrats. Within the margin of
error.

He is always touting academia, but white college graduates are the
only demographic group with a plurality believing the LN theory: 48%
to 46%.

All at the site above.

.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Anthony Marsh

2018-11-17 16:57:49 UTC

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal.
Do you dispute the above?

Absolutely.

What a selfish, pompous, elitist post. Like I said before, you just
can't stop yourself. Sure buddy, I'm gonna sign up with you.

The problem with Ramon is that he slathers his political biases all
over the issue.
He thinks Trump voters are evil, but Trump voters are just slightly

No, not all evil. Maybe just all stupid.

Post by John McAdams
*more* likely to believe in a JFK conspiracy than Hillary voters --
61% to 59%.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-one-thing-in-politics-most-americans-believe-in-jfk-conspiracies/
Republicans and Democrats are equally likely to believe in a
conspiracy -- 60% Republicans and 61% Democrats. Within the margin of
error.
He is always touting academia, but white college graduates are the
only demographic group with a plurality believing the LN theory: 48%
to 46%.
All at the site above.
.John
-----------------------
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm

Ramon F Herrera

2018-11-22 01:44:24 UTC

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal.
Do you dispute the above?

Absolutely.

What a selfish, pompous, elitist post. Like I said before, you just
can't stop yourself. Sure buddy, I'm gonna sign up with you.

The problem with Ramon is that he slathers his political biases all
over the issue.
He thinks Trump voters are evil, but Trump voters are just slightly
*more* likely to believe in a JFK conspiracy than Hillary voters --
61% to 59%.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-one-thing-in-politics-most-americans-believe-in-jfk-conspiracies/
Republicans and Democrats are equally likely to believe in a
conspiracy -- 60% Republicans and 61% Democrats. Within the margin of
error.
He is always touting academia, but white college graduates are the
only demographic group with a plurality believing the LN theory: 48%
to 46%.
All at the site above.
.John

I cannot believe that I have to use these elemental arguments in a debate
with a Harvard graduate.

Regardless of whether 7 billion people in this planet say that 2+2=5, it
is still 4. Numbers do not lie, are not biased. In familiar terms: The
solution of the Kennedy assassination case (numerically) will not done by
Democracy.

We should not give a rat's ass about the percentages of people who believe
this or the other: whether 99% believe in a LN or 99% believe in CTs, the
solutions of the equations, simulations and models will remain exactly the
same.

We are talking about Exact Sciences here. Political "science" need not
apply.

IOW:

"Hey, Ramon! The percentages of CT/LNs is such and such"
Moi: "Really: So cool" or "That's a bummer. I demand a recount!"
Signed: Ramon's Highly Opinionated Right Brain Hemisphere

versus:

"Hey, Ramon! The percentages of CT/LNs is such and such"
Moi [robotic voice:] "That is not relevant information, proceeding to
solve the mathematical equations"
Signed: Ramon's Devoid of Emotions, Unbiased Left Brain Hemisphere

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

claviger

2018-11-24 22:23:41 UTC

A Ballistics expert and famous Detective agree an accidental
shot was involved in this ambush on the Presidential parade
through Dealey Plaza.

Anthony Marsh

2018-11-26 00:52:34 UTC

Post by claviger
A Ballistics expert and famous Detective agree an accidental
shot was involved in this ambush on the Presidential parade
through Dealey Plaza.

But no one else claims that the SS did it.

Ramon F Herrera

2018-12-24 20:26:23 UTC

What a selfish, pompous, elitist post. Like I said before, you just
can't stop yourself. Sure buddy, I'm gonna sign up with you.
Mark

(a) This is not a Miss Congeniality or Miss Sympathy contest.

(b) Those who are afraid to offend or be offended are not interested
in The Truth.

(c) So, what universities are on your side, again?

Hey! I guess we agree on something:

-Ramon The Selfish, Pompous, Elitist Who Can't Stop Himself
JFK Numbers

#FreeTheCranium
#FreeTheBlueprints

bigdog

2018-12-26 00:18:02 UTC

What a selfish, pompous, elitist post. Like I said before, you just
can't stop yourself. Sure buddy, I'm gonna sign up with you.
Mark

(a) This is not a Miss Congeniality or Miss Sympathy contest.
(b) Those who are afraid to offend or be offended are not interested
in The Truth.

Anyone who refuses to accept that Oswald was JFK's assassin has no
interest in the truth. They want an interesting story to be true. Truth
isn't a multiple choice exercise. There is only one. You don't get a
choice. You can accept it or not but you can't find or create another one.
That seems to be what your mission is.

Ramon F Herrera

2018-12-26 19:24:52 UTC

What a selfish, pompous, elitist post. Like I said before, you just
can't stop yourself. Sure buddy, I'm gonna sign up with you.
Mark

(a) This is not a Miss Congeniality or Miss Sympathy contest.
(b) Those who are afraid to offend or be offended are not interested
in The Truth.

Nobody is more interested to prove definitely, to everybody's
satisfaction that it was:

Oswald, Alone, 3 shots.

than the JFK Numbers project. No one. However, I cannot offer
preordained results. MIT would tell me/us to go perform
self-intercourse. I have way too much respect for my Vatican.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

ps: I ask again: Why do you Trumpites (and by extension, LNs) hate
capitalism and competitions, not to mention education, academia and
logic so much?

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-20 14:43:20 UTC

Post by Amy Joyce
If Democrats didn't pay their protesters and incite them to violence the
party might have in November and 2020. They have gone too far.

Amy: Other than your feverish imagination (and wishes, of course), do
you have anything to back up your assertions? Any authoritative sources?
It is your contention that people are incapable of doing activism unless
money exchanges hands. That much is obvious.
That must be the greatest news for you, as an LN, a person who obviously
is not interested in seeing the JFK Numbers clarified by the authoritative
entities. I guess I have no choice but to send everybody home and close
shop, since I don't have mucho dinero. :-(
[Maybe the Kochs, Haags, Myers or Sturdivan will pay me well if I
promise to tweak the distances and angles? And privatize the project, of
course.]
An engineer who specializes in digitalization of X-rays (with house
visits) and does extremely detailed 3D models for the US military,
"Ramon, you will only need 1/8" accuracy. If I did that with this, our
http://www.jfknumbers.org/~ramon/jfk/Aerospace-Accuracy-Standard.png
"our company would be fired. I estimate that we can do your Dealey Plaza
work for between $500K to $750K. [Larry Schnapf was not happy with that
quotation, told me to send them to Hades]
"My recommendation is that you persuade Bill Gates to sponsor your
project."
"Even if Bill Gates (Soros, the Kennedys discreetly) gave me a check I
"My credo: Sex and militant work are better and more enjoyable when done
for love than for money"
Obviously our esteemed Amy disagrees. Must have some experience in the
matter (of activism) that I don't.
-Ramon
JFK Numbers
ps: "Joyce"? As in "Joy"? You surely jest. A well known principle of you
Alt. Righties, followers of the Pussy Grabber in Chief is: "The Pursuit
of Unhappiness". You are a perfect exponent.

Projection: If you're not a proponent of the radical left you are a) A LN
b) a member of the alt-right and a Trump cultist.
Are you sure Ramon?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/huppke/ct-paid-protesters-huppke-20170227-story.html
Of course not all protesters are paid. Some people get caught up in the
frenzy while others are brainwashed and have too much time on their hands.
Believe all women no matter what? Half the zombies pounding on the Senate
doors and cornering innocent Senators in elevators were paid. And as an
adult woman I've spent man years in women's bathrooms and locker rooms and
can testify to overhearing lunatic fringe feminists brag about their
control over men.
Do some research about paid protesting. There is an abundance of proof
out there but as usual the liberal media won't report it.

Just more paranoid rightwing delusions. Never admit anything, just blame
somebody else.

Anthony Marsh

2018-10-16 23:55:09 UTC

Who is a Trump supporter.

claviger

2018-11-20 15:57:08 UTC

Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

They solve problems by creating more problems, sometimes much
worse. Exactly what happened in Venezuela.

Ramon F Herrera

2018-11-22 01:43:27 UTC

Post by claviger
Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

The better the school, the more Liberal. I am still waiting for a
counter example.

Post by claviger
They solve problems by creating more problems, sometimes much
worse. Exactly what happened in Venezuela.

The cancer is Venezuela es EXACTLY of the same nature as the one in the
US: intolerance, creating division (the worst sin of any governor, in
Madison terms), fomenting hatred, for the political and hence economic
benefit of El Bastardo.

Are you familiar with the Federalist Papers? Which is the most important
and why?

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

claviger

2018-11-24 16:08:49 UTC

Post by claviger
Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not, US Liberals have created enormous debt for Working Class
Americans to pay off with all kinds of giveaway programs, and they're
still teaching Socialism in all the colleges you listed. How's Socialism
working out in Venezuela? That beautiful country is now a toxic disaster
zone.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal. I am still waiting for a
counter example.

How has your Liberal elitism helped Venezuela?

Post by claviger
They solve problems by creating more problems, sometimes much
worse. Exactly what happened in Venezuela.

Exactly the same strategy used by Chavez and Maduro: divide and conquer.
They won and Venezuela conquered itself. At this point Venezuela needs to
deColonize and allow the native people to take over and go back to Nature.

Ramon F Herrera

2018-11-25 18:37:12 UTC

Post by claviger
Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not.

So NASA, GPS, the Human Genome, Nuclear, Laser, Transistor, Open Source
Software, Technicolor (*), etc., etc. were problems solved by the three
universities on your side then:

- Brigham Young, where they teach that your god lives in, what was it?
Krypton?

- "Liberty" University. The cynicism, the lack of respect for that
sacred word.

Not to mention the renowned:

School of Motorcycle (**) and Motor Home Maintenance and Repair

preferred by people in the Deep South, where Dixie still flies high,
above Ole' Glory.

Right?

There are THREE universities on your side, the rest in mine.

Feel free to correct that list. I have been waiting for years.

You people are not even trying. So little self respect.

-Ramon
JFK Numbers

(*) Named after The Institute.

(**) "Harleys only, those damn japs don't know how to make real bikes!"

claviger

2018-11-27 06:26:09 UTC

Post by claviger
Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not.

So NASA, GPS, the Human Genome, Nuclear, Laser, Transistor, Open Source
Software, Technicolor (*), etc., etc. were problems solved by the three

Send them to Venezuela for extreme damage control.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
- Brigham Young, where they teach that your god lives in, what was it?
Krypton?

God lives everywhere. Try reading The Bible.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
- "Liberty" University. The cynicism, the lack of respect for that
sacred word.

Socialists are interested in one thing: Control. Not whether their
theories work or not.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
School of Motorcycle (**) and Motor Home Maintenance and Repair

The World is in need of repair everyday, so you make fun of Blue Collar
repair experts? Typical Socialist arrogance. You continue to spout off
about your mental superiority, so go home and fix Venezuela, then you
can spray your Socialist propaganda around.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
preferred by people in the Deep South, where Dixie still flies high,
above Ole' Glory.
Right?

Actually no. People from the Southeastern part of the USA have served
in every war as the highest percentage of volunteers from any region of
the USA. I can't figure out why, perhaps rural poverty has something to
do with it. They grow up with less, but continue to serve in the military.
One prominent Senator from Massachusetts ridiculed them for that.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
There are THREE universities on your side, the rest in mine.

Such as?

Post by Ramon F Herrera
Feel free to correct that list. I have been waiting for years.

Waiting for what?

Post by Ramon F Herrera
You people are not even trying. So little self respect.

Who are "you people"? Would you say at this point in history
Venezuela has no self respect left after the complete failure of
virulent Socialism? Where did all the jobs go? Socialists would
ask what is a "job" and why do we need one if the government
is supposed to take care of us?

By the way, the most brilliant Venezuelan I mentioned graduated
from Oxford. He is making a positive impact on the Panamanian
government as a forward thinking Free Enterprise expert. One of
the most humble men I have ever met, to have such a superstar
resume.

I am told by people from Venezuela he and his wife come from a
Middle Class background, similar to the brilliant college professor
Donaldo Colosio of Mexico. He and his beautiful wife Diana would
have been the Jack and Jackie of Mexico. He believed in the same
economic philosophy as President Kennedy.

Anthony Marsh

2018-11-28 04:13:54 UTC

Post by claviger
Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not.

So NASA, GPS, the Human Genome, Nuclear, Laser, Transistor, Open Source
Software, Technicolor (*), etc., etc. were problems solved by the three

Send them to Venezuela for extreme damage control.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
- Brigham Young, where they teach that your god lives in, what was it?
Krypton?

God lives everywhere. Try reading The Bible.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
- "Liberty" University. The cynicism, the lack of respect for that
sacred word.

Socialists are interested in one thing: Control. Not whether their

So are Nazis like Hitler/Trump.

Post by claviger
theories work or not.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
School of Motorcycle (**) and Motor Home Maintenance and Repair

Post by Ramon F Herrera
preferred by people in the Deep South, where Dixie still flies high,
above Ole' Glory.
Right?

Are you claiming that they serve at a higher rate than people from the
Northeast? I am in the Northeast only because my father grew up in
Kentucky, but served in WWII and then had to stay in Washington to work at
NSA. After he resigned his boss gave him a job in Boston.

Post by claviger
do with it. They grow up with less, but continue to serve in the military.
One prominent Senator from Massachusetts ridiculed them for that.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
There are THREE universities on your side, the rest in mine.

Such as?

Post by Ramon F Herrera
Feel free to correct that list. I have been waiting for years.

Waiting for what?

Post by Ramon F Herrera
You people are not even trying. So little self respect.

Who are "you people"? Would you say at this point in history
Venezuela has no self respect left after the complete failure of
virulent Socialism? Where did all the jobs go? Socialists would
ask what is a "job" and why do we need one if the government
is supposed to take care of us?
By the way, the most brilliant Venezuelan I mentioned graduated
from Oxford. He is making a positive impact on the Panamanian
government as a forward thinking Free Enterprise expert. One of
the most humble men I have ever met, to have such a superstar
resume.
I am told by people from Venezuela he and his wife come from a
Middle Class background, similar to the brilliant college professor
Donaldo Colosio of Mexico. He and his beautiful wife Diana would
have been the Jack and Jackie of Mexico. He believed in the same
economic philosophy as President Kennedy.

Anthony Marsh

2018-11-26 00:52:53 UTC

Post by claviger
Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not, US Liberals have created enormous debt for Working Class
Americans to pay off with all kinds of giveaway programs, and they're

So you claim that we should not be building roads and bridges?
You're rich enough to build them yourself?

Post by claviger
still teaching Socialism in all the colleges you listed. How's Socialism
working out in Venezuela? That beautiful country is now a toxic disaster
zone.

Ever hear of The Great Depression?

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal. I am still waiting for a
counter example.

How has your Liberal elitism helped Venezuela?

Post by claviger
They solve problems by creating more problems, sometimes much
worse. Exactly what happened in Venezuela.

c***@gmail.com

2018-11-27 06:24:56 UTC

Post by claviger
Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not, US Liberals have created enormous debt for Working Class
Americans to pay off with all kinds of giveaway programs, and they're

So you claim that we should not be building roads and bridges?
You're rich enough to build them yourself?

The Sultan of Straw strikes again. Ever wonder how we built bridges and
dams and ran a military prior to a federal income tax, or how our economy
grew so rapidly when federal expenditures were at roughly 3%-5% of GDP?

Post by claviger
still teaching Socialism in all the colleges you listed. How's Socialism
working out in Venezuela? That beautiful country is now a toxic disaster
zone.

Ever hear of The Great Depression?

FDR's economy? Read 'The Forgotten Man' by Amity Shlaes.

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal. I am still waiting for a
counter example.

How has your Liberal elitism helped Venezuela?

Post by claviger
They solve problems by creating more problems, sometimes much
worse. Exactly what happened in Venezuela.

Anthony Marsh

2018-11-28 04:14:20 UTC

Post by claviger
Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not, US Liberals have created enormous debt for Working Class
Americans to pay off with all kinds of giveaway programs, and they're

So you claim that we should not be building roads and bridges?
You're rich enough to build them yourself?

It was cute when each town would build it's one bridges and roads, but as
the country grew we needed interstate roads and bridges. Who is going to
pay for those? YOU? No, the Federal government. Throught taxes. Not just
income taxes. You pay a gas tax and I don't see you refusing to drive. If
we all had electric cars how could they collect gad taxes?

Post by claviger
still teaching Socialism in all the colleges you listed. How's Socialism
working out in Venezuela? That beautiful country is now a toxic disaster
zone.

Ever hear of The Great Depression?

FDR's economy? Read 'The Forgotten Man' by Amity Shlaes.

How's your hero Trump doing? GM closing plants, laying off workers,
discontinuing models. Stock market drops 500 points every day?
How's your wall coming?

Post by Ramon F Herrera
The better the school, the more Liberal. I am still waiting for a
counter example.

How has your Liberal elitism helped Venezuela?

Post by claviger
They solve problems by creating more problems, sometimes much
worse. Exactly what happened in Venezuela.

claviger

2018-11-28 19:54:23 UTC

Post by Anthony Marsh
How's your hero Trump doing? GM closing plants, laying off workers,
discontinuing models. Stock market drops 500 points every day?

Sounds like a negative reaction to the recent election. Investors know
lower taxes are good for the economy and Democrats always vote for higher
taxes, that rob citizens of buying power which slows down the economy.
When taxes go up they have to postpone buying a new car.

Post by Anthony Marsh
How's your wall coming?

The chaotic situation in Tijuana demonstrates why border enforcement is a
growing problem. Mexico now has a southern border problem too.

BT George

2018-11-29 17:21:56 UTC

Post by Anthony Marsh
How's your hero Trump doing? GM closing plants, laying off workers,
discontinuing models. Stock market drops 500 points every day?

Post by Anthony Marsh
How's your wall coming?

The chaotic situation in Tijuana demonstrates why border enforcement is a
growing problem. Mexico now has a southern border problem too.

And what I find most hypocritical is when the MSM reports on many in
Mexico reacting negatively to to the illegal migrations into their
country, I haven't heard suggestions of xenophobia or racism. And
contrary to common belief, not all Mexicans are darker skinned Mestizos,
many are of pure European descent, so charges of racism could be leveled
if they wished to be consistent. (...But of course, only white American
Republicans can be racist.)

Anthony Marsh

2018-12-03 03:16:33 UTC

Post by BT George

Post by Anthony Marsh
How's your hero Trump doing? GM closing plants, laying off workers,
discontinuing models. Stock market drops 500 points every day?

Post by Anthony Marsh
How's your wall coming?

The chaotic situation in Tijuana demonstrates why border enforcement is a
growing problem. Mexico now has a southern border problem too.

As usual you are too afraid to answer my questions.
Because you knkow that you always loose.
Your dodge deflections from the point that the Wall is a hoax.
Trump is creating the situation on the border which leads to chaos so
that he can pretend that he's a tough guy. That's what cowards do.
He wasn't even brave enough to listen to the Khashoggi tape.

Post by BT George
And what I find most hypocritical is when the MSM reports on many in
Mexico reacting negatively to to the illegal migrations into their
country, I haven't heard suggestions of xenophobia or racism. And

They have. It'd cslled Xenophobia.

Post by BT George
contrary to common belief, not all Mexicans are darker skinned Mestizos,
many are of pure European descent, so charges of racism could be leveled
if they wished to be consistent. (...But of course, only white American
Republicans can be racist.)

A distinction without a difference. I've known Mexicans who are whiter
than I am.

And need I remind you that before the passage of the Democrats Voting
Rights Act all the racists Down South were Democrats who didn't like the
stuffy elite Northeast Republicans.

Anthony Marsh

2018-11-29 22:18:01 UTC

Post by Anthony Marsh
How's your hero Trump doing? GM closing plants, laying off workers,
discontinuing models. Stock market drops 500 points every day?

Post by Anthony Marsh
How's your wall coming?

The chaotic situation in Tijuana demonstrates why border enforcement is a
growing problem. Mexico now has a southern border problem too.

It's only a growing problem because Trump wants to create problems to
rile up his racist base. No matter how high his disapproval rate goes,
he always has his approval rate of 38% with his base.

Jason Burke

2018-11-29 17:22:09 UTC

Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want to
try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not, US Liberals have created enormous debt for Working Class
Americans to pay off with all kinds of giveaway programs, and they're

So you claim that we should not be building roads and bridges?
You're rich enough to build them yourself?

It was cute when each town would build it's one bridges and roads, but
as the country grew we needed interstate roads and bridges. Who is going
to pay for those? YOU? No, the Federal government. Throught taxes. Not
just income taxes. You pay a gas tax and I don't see you refusing to
drive. If we all had electric cars how could they collect gad taxes?

Post by claviger
still teaching Socialism in all the colleges you listed. How's
Socialism
working out in Venezuela? That beautiful country is now a toxic
disaster
zone.

Ever hear of The Great Depression?

FDR's economy? Read 'The Forgotten Man' by Amity Shlaes.

How's your hero Trump doing? GM closing plants, laying off workers,
discontinuing models. Stock market drops 500 points every day?
How's your wall coming?

So, uh, Anthony Anthony?
Did your broker E F Nuttin convince you to sell all your stock Tuesday?

Anthony Marsh

2018-11-30 15:19:39 UTC

Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want
to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not, US Liberals have created enormous debt for Working Class
Americans to pay off with all kinds of giveaway programs, and they're

So you claim that we should not be building roads and bridges?
You're rich enough to build them yourself?

It was cute when each town would build it's one bridges and roads, but
as the country grew we needed interstate roads and bridges. Who is
going to pay for those? YOU? No, the Federal government. Throught
taxes. Not just income taxes. You pay a gas tax and I don't see you
refusing to drive. If we all had electric cars how could they collect
gad taxes?

Post by claviger
still teaching Socialism in all the colleges you listed. How's
Socialism
working out in Venezuela? That beautiful country is now a toxic
disaster
zone.

Ever hear of The Great Depression?

FDR's economy? Read 'The Forgotten Man' by Amity Shlaes.

How's your hero Trump doing? GM closing plants, laying off workers,
discontinuing models. Stock market drops 500 points every day?
How's your wall coming?

So, uh, Anthony Anthony?
Did your broker E F Nuttin convince you to sell all your stock Tuesday?

Are you nuts? I would never buy or sell stock. In fact I dropped my 401K
when I found out how much they were stealing.

Jason Burke

2018-12-01 06:35:21 UTC

Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want
to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not, US Liberals have created enormous debt for Working Class
Americans to pay off with all kinds of giveaway programs, and they're

So you claim that we should not be building roads and bridges?
You're rich enough to build them yourself?

It was cute when each town would build it's one bridges and roads,
but as the country grew we needed interstate roads and bridges. Who
is going to pay for those? YOU? No, the Federal government. Throught
taxes. Not just income taxes. You pay a gas tax and I don't see you
refusing to drive. If we all had electric cars how could they collect
gad taxes?

Post by claviger
still teaching Socialism in all the colleges you listed. How's
Socialism
working out in Venezuela? That beautiful country is now a toxic
disaster
zone.

Ever hear of The Great Depression?

FDR's economy? Read 'The Forgotten Man' by Amity Shlaes.

How's your hero Trump doing? GM closing plants, laying off workers,
discontinuing models. Stock market drops 500 points every day?
How's your wall coming?

So, uh, Anthony Anthony?
Did your broker E F Nuttin convince you to sell all your stock Tuesday?

Are you nuts? I would never buy or sell stock. In fact I dropped my 401K
when I found out how much they were stealing.

Ah, yes. "they were stealing". Not too paranoid are we, Anthony Anthony?

Anthony Marsh

2018-12-02 19:18:08 UTC

Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want
to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not, US Liberals have created enormous debt for Working Class
Americans to pay off with all kinds of giveaway programs, and they're

So you claim that we should not be building roads and bridges?
You're rich enough to build them yourself?

It was cute when each town would build it's one bridges and roads,
but as the country grew we needed interstate roads and bridges. Who
is going to pay for those? YOU? No, the Federal government. Throught
taxes. Not just income taxes. You pay a gas tax and I don't see you
refusing to drive. If we all had electric cars how could they
collect gad taxes?

Post by claviger
still teaching Socialism in all the colleges you listed. How's
Socialism
working out in Venezuela? That beautiful country is now a toxic
disaster
zone.

Ever hear of The Great Depression?

FDR's economy? Read 'The Forgotten Man' by Amity Shlaes.

How's your hero Trump doing? GM closing plants, laying off workers,
discontinuing models. Stock market drops 500 points every day?
How's your wall coming?

So, uh, Anthony Anthony?
Did your broker E F Nuttin convince you to sell all your stock Tuesday?

Are you nuts? I would never buy or sell stock. In fact I dropped my
401K when I found out how much they were stealing.

Ah, yes. "they were stealing". Not too paranoid are we, Anthony Anthony?

Do a little research. Learn how to use Google if you weren't around and
working then.

Jason Burke

2018-12-01 06:35:29 UTC

Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want
to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not, US Liberals have created enormous debt for Working Class
Americans to pay off with all kinds of giveaway programs, and they're

So you claim that we should not be building roads and bridges?
You're rich enough to build them yourself?

It was cute when each town would build it's one bridges and roads,
but as the country grew we needed interstate roads and bridges. Who
is going to pay for those? YOU? No, the Federal government. Throught
taxes. Not just income taxes. You pay a gas tax and I don't see you
refusing to drive. If we all had electric cars how could they collect
gad taxes?

Post by claviger
still teaching Socialism in all the colleges you listed. How's
Socialism
working out in Venezuela? That beautiful country is now a toxic
disaster
zone.

Ever hear of The Great Depression?

FDR's economy? Read 'The Forgotten Man' by Amity Shlaes.

How's your hero Trump doing? GM closing plants, laying off workers,
discontinuing models. Stock market drops 500 points every day?
How's your wall coming?

So, uh, Anthony Anthony?
Did your broker E F Nuttin convince you to sell all your stock Tuesday?

Are you nuts? I would never buy or sell stock. In fact I dropped my 401K
when I found out how much they were stealing.

Is that the same "they" who shot JFK?

Anthony Marsh

2018-12-02 19:18:16 UTC

Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want
to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

Evidently not, US Liberals have created enormous debt for Working Class
Americans to pay off with all kinds of giveaway programs, and they're

So you claim that we should not be building roads and bridges?
You're rich enough to build them yourself?

It was cute when each town would build it's one bridges and roads,
but as the country grew we needed interstate roads and bridges. Who
is going to pay for those? YOU? No, the Federal government. Throught
taxes. Not just income taxes. You pay a gas tax and I don't see you
refusing to drive. If we all had electric cars how could they
collect gad taxes?

Post by claviger
still teaching Socialism in all the colleges you listed. How's
Socialism
working out in Venezuela? That beautiful country is now a toxic
disaster
zone.

Ever hear of The Great Depression?

FDR's economy? Read 'The Forgotten Man' by Amity Shlaes.

How's your hero Trump doing? GM closing plants, laying off workers,
discontinuing models. Stock market drops 500 points every day?
How's your wall coming?

So, uh, Anthony Anthony?
Did your broker E F Nuttin convince you to sell all your stock Tuesday?

Are you nuts? I would never buy or sell stock. In fact I dropped my
401K when I found out how much they were stealing.

Is that the same "they" who shot JFK?

Nope. Wall Street crooks.

claviger

2018-11-24 20:28:53 UTC

Post by claviger
Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

If they did, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Send all these
brilliant problem solvers down to fix the Socialist quagmire in Venezuela.
To do that they must drain the swamp of corruption that caused the manmade
national disaster. This onetime functional Free Enterprise economy was
shattered by Socialist stupidity. It is now a disorganized tribal economy
with no sense of cohesion and no light at the end of the tunnel.

The most brilliant Venezuelan in the Western Hemisphere lives in Panama
and is doing great things for that tiny nation. Given time he will raise
the standard of living in Panama using successful Free Enterprise
principals. The same guy who rescued PDVSA from going broke and for this
heroic effort was fired by Chavez for not being a Socialist.

Jason Burke

2018-11-25 00:38:26 UTC

Post by claviger
Agitation gets attention, but creates more enemies. Might want to try
problem solving. Liberals are unfamiliar with that concept.

So at MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Berkeley, Harvard... They don't know how
to solve problems.

If they did, we wouldn't be having this conversation. Send all these
brilliant problem solvers down to fix the Socialist quagmire in Venezuela.
To do that they must drain the swamp of corruption that caused the manmade
national disaster. This onetime functional Free Enterprise economy was
shattered by Socialist stupidity. It is now a disorganized tribal economy
with no sense of cohesion and no light at the end of the tunnel.
The most brilliant Venezuelan in the Western Hemisphere lives in Panama
and is doing great things for that tiny nation. Given time he will raise
the standard of living in Panama using successful Free Enterprise
principals. The same guy who rescued PDVSA from going broke and for this
heroic effort was fired by Chavez for not being a Socialist.

I thought Ramon was the most brilliant Venezuelan in the Western
Hemisphere. After all, he knows what a server is. And he strolled through
the MIT campus once or twice.

Ramon F Herrera

2018-11-25 18:37:54 UTC