Discussion:
Biden Just Erased *All* My Federal Income Taxes
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BTR1701
2021-05-04 09:31:52 UTC
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BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."

https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21

Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?

Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
FPP
2021-05-04 11:03:18 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
He specifically said "raise your taxes". That's called 'context'.
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"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

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BTR1701
2021-05-04 16:59:21 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
He specifically said "raise your taxes". That's called 'context'.
No, the quote is what he specifically and actually said. And the link is
a video of him saying it.
moviePig
2021-05-04 18:16:02 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
He specifically said "raise your taxes". That's called 'context'.
No, the quote is what he specifically and actually said. And the link is
a video of him saying it.
I'm guessing that no one was misled... or concerned...
FPP
2021-05-04 21:03:33 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
He specifically said "raise your taxes". That's called 'context'.
No, the quote is what he specifically and actually said. And the link is
a video of him saying it.
I'm guessing that no one was misled... or concerned...
Only Captain Fapp, apparently... the only lawyer that doesn't
understand how English works.
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Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
FPP
2021-05-04 21:02:55 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
He specifically said "raise your taxes". That's called 'context'.
No, the quote is what he specifically and actually said. And the link is
a video of him saying it.
Nope, you're a liar. That's a fact not in dispute, Mr. 'Kamala Harris's
Invisible Book Giveaway'.
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
trotsky
2021-05-07 14:45:49 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
He specifically said "raise your taxes". That's called 'context'.
No, the quote is what he specifically and actually said. And the link is
a video of him saying it.
Oh it totally was a gaffe.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9539307/Biden-says-Americans-earning-400-000-not-pay-single-penny-taxes.html


How does this compare to the elder Bush telling people to read his lips
you stupid motherfucking hypocrite?
Ubiquitous
2021-05-04 16:59:21 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
He specifically said "raise your taxes". That's called 'context'.
Oh, the irony!

Oh course, had you actually looked, it's exactly what he said.

--
Trump won.
Ubiquitous
2021-05-04 11:20:36 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Enjoy your federal tax refund!
Post by BTR1701
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
What makes you think you didn't?

--
Trump won.
trotsky
2021-05-04 11:51:12 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I thought you were happy with the dipshits that voted for the tax scam.
number6
2021-05-04 12:42:00 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
suzeeq
2021-05-04 15:59:49 UTC
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Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
anim8rfsk
2021-05-04 16:10:26 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
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EGK
2021-05-04 16:57:29 UTC
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Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
anim8rfsk
2021-05-04 17:16:38 UTC
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Post by EGK
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
Ugh

A friend has been trying to get me to move near him in Dallas/Fort Worth
but the property taxes on the house similar to mine in Arizona were like
$10,000 a year!
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“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
BTR1701
2021-05-04 17:30:27 UTC
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Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
FPP
2021-05-04 21:06:00 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
Did you forget WHY we weren't ready for the pandemic already?

Maybe you should read the Pandemic Playbook Obama left for Trump... it's
right there in the trash, where Trump put it.
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
BTR1701
2021-05-04 23:21:34 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this state
and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to 'follow the
science' like every other state has done?

Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him for
a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.

Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
shawn
2021-05-05 01:02:32 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this state
and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to 'follow the
science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him for
a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread. That said it's certainly true
that the final decision on school closings is down to the state and
local municipalities. I'm not sure why they refuse to even consider
opening the schools in at least a partial mode.

Certainly if Pfizer is allowed to start providing vaccines to people
of age 16 and up it should be doable to at least open up high schools
for summer school and make preparations for opening the schools up
fully in the fall. While it's true that kids can and do become
infected with the disease and can spread it, it's also true that by
the fall every adult that wants to be vaccinated should be able to
vaccinated so if younger kids still can't be vaccinated the concern
about them becoming infected and spreading it to their
parents/grandparents should be removed.

I know that locally there seems to be no problem in getting people
vaccinated as the slots seem to fill up fairly quickly with people of
all ages, younger and older.
BTR1701
2021-05-05 03:53:35 UTC
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Post by shawn
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Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this state
and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to 'follow the
science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him for
a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread.
If Trump's early actions are why California's schools are still closed, ho
has literally every other state in the union managed to re-open theirs at thi
point? Trump was president of those states, also.
FPP
2021-05-05 10:06:00 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this state
and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to 'follow the
science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him for
a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread.
If Trump's early actions are why California's schools are still closed, how
has literally every other state in the union managed to re-open theirs at this
point? Trump was president of those states, also.
Yup... because he let things get so bad until we were the WORST country
for covid on Earth.

WE'RE NUMBER ONE!

https://www.movehub.com/blog/best-and-worst-covid-responses/

Letting the virus run wild while telling people it would go away when it
got warm.

Then telling them it wasn't that deadly.

Then telling them the federal government was going to let the states
fight it out among themselves.

Then by not setting up any kind of plan to get the vaccines out.
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
BTR1701
2021-05-05 18:00:06 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going
on over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers
are lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new
'progressive' kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a
service, then refuse to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this
state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to
'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread.
If Trump's early actions are why California's schools are still closed, how
has literally every other state in the union managed to re-open theirs at
this point? Trump was president of those states, also.
Yup... because he let things get so bad until we were the WORST country
for covid on Earth.
Letting the virus run wild while telling people it would go away when it
got warm.
Then telling them it wasn't that deadly.
Then telling them the federal government was going to let the states
fight it out among themselves.
Then by not setting up any kind of plan to get the vaccines out.
None of which has jack all to do with the reason why 49 out of 50 states
have open schools right now and California doesn't.
shawn
2021-05-05 23:21:09 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going
on over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers
are lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new
'progressive' kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a
service, then refuse to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this
state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to
'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread.
If Trump's early actions are why California's schools are still closed, how
has literally every other state in the union managed to re-open theirs at
this point? Trump was president of those states, also.
Yup... because he let things get so bad until we were the WORST country
for covid on Earth.
Letting the virus run wild while telling people it would go away when it
got warm.
Then telling them it wasn't that deadly.
Then telling them the federal government was going to let the states
fight it out among themselves.
Then by not setting up any kind of plan to get the vaccines out.
None of which has jack all to do with the reason why 49 out of 50 states
have open schools right now and California doesn't.
Except that it sets up a situation where the virus is widespread
throughout the nation. Yes, Newsom and the rest of the government in
control of schools have made a different decision about school
openings from the other states for reasons I don't understand and so
deserve the majority of the responsibility for that decision but that
doesn't abrogate Trump and his people from setting up the situation
where the virus is so widespread. So I blame Trump no more than 5-10%
for the situation in California schools.

Now the question is why are Newsom and the school officials being so
cautious about school openings? I haven't heard a good reason for or
against it in California but I'm sure it must have been widely
discussed in the state. Is it a fear of the spread of the disease? Is
it a fear of the political fallout of opening the schools? Whether
that be a fear of things going wrong or maybe there are just so many
parents that are fearful of their kids getting sick that opening the
schools might have negative political consequences for Newsom.
Whatever the case there must be some reason for the decision given
that so many apparently want the schools reopened.
BTR1701
2021-05-05 23:47:56 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going
on over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers
are lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new
'progressive' kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a
service, then refuse to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this
state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to
'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread.
If Trump's early actions are why California's schools are still closed, how
has literally every other state in the union managed to re-open theirs at
this point? Trump was president of those states, also.
Yup... because he let things get so bad until we were the WORST country
for covid on Earth.
Letting the virus run wild while telling people it would go away when it
got warm.
Then telling them it wasn't that deadly.
Then telling them the federal government was going to let the states
fight it out among themselves.
Then by not setting up any kind of plan to get the vaccines out.
None of which has jack all to do with the reason why 49 out of 50 states
have open schools right now and California doesn't.
Except that it sets up a situation where the virus is widespread
throughout the nation. Yes, Newsom and the rest of the government in
control of schools have made a different decision about school
openings from the other states for reasons I don't understand and so
deserve the majority of the responsibility for that decision
Not according to FPP. FPP says that it's Trump and only Trump. Contrary to
all logic and fact, he places none of the responsibility for the continued
school closure on Newsom and Garcetti. (And we all know why: they're
Democrats.)

but that
Post by shawn
doesn't abrogate Trump and his people from setting up the situation
where the virus is so widespread. So I blame Trump no more than 5-10%
for the situation in California schools.
Now the question is why are Newsom and the school officials being so
cautious about school openings?
They're not being cautious. The teachers union has a list of demands and
won't allow schools to reopen until those demands are met. And a lot of the
demands have nothing to do with the virus or even schooling: defund the
police, universal health care for all Californians, amnesty for all
illegals, abolishment of ICE, condemnation of Israel regarding
Palestinians, etc. Basically a Marxist wishlist and they're using the
health crisis as an opportunity to get what they've always wanted but could
never achieve in the normal collective bargaining process.

The fact that they're perfectly willing to teach the illegal alien kids in
person in the convention centers, which are hotbeds for Wuhan Flu, is all
the evidence you need that they're not really afraid of the virus. They
just say they are as an excuse to keep the schools closed and maintain
their leverage.

And every politician in California is terrified of the California teachers
union. It's been called the most powerful union in America and any
politician that opposes them is destroyed by the union in the next election
when they primary him/her and throw millions of dollars to the opposition.

It's come to the point now where a governor who wasn't bought and paid for
by the union, who actually cared about the people of the state,
particularly the kids whose futures are being slowly destroyed by this
political bullshit, should just issue an order saying the schools will
reopen in two weeks. Any teacher who doesn't show up for work is fired.
Period. Don't like it? Sue me, but the schools are reopening.
shawn
2021-05-06 01:05:36 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going
on over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers
are lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new
'progressive' kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a
service, then refuse to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this
state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to
'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread.
If Trump's early actions are why California's schools are still closed, how
has literally every other state in the union managed to re-open theirs at
this point? Trump was president of those states, also.
Yup... because he let things get so bad until we were the WORST country
for covid on Earth.
Letting the virus run wild while telling people it would go away when it
got warm.
Then telling them it wasn't that deadly.
Then telling them the federal government was going to let the states
fight it out among themselves.
Then by not setting up any kind of plan to get the vaccines out.
None of which has jack all to do with the reason why 49 out of 50 states
have open schools right now and California doesn't.
Except that it sets up a situation where the virus is widespread
throughout the nation. Yes, Newsom and the rest of the government in
control of schools have made a different decision about school
openings from the other states for reasons I don't understand and so
deserve the majority of the responsibility for that decision
Not according to FPP. FPP says that it's Trump and only Trump. Contrary to
all logic and fact, he places none of the responsibility for the continued
school closure on Newsom and Garcetti. (And we all know why: they're
Democrats.)
but that
Post by shawn
doesn't abrogate Trump and his people from setting up the situation
where the virus is so widespread. So I blame Trump no more than 5-10%
for the situation in California schools.
Now the question is why are Newsom and the school officials being so
cautious about school openings?
They're not being cautious. The teachers union has a list of demands and
won't allow schools to reopen until those demands are met. And a lot of the
demands have nothing to do with the virus or even schooling: defund the
police, universal health care for all Californians, amnesty for all
illegals, abolishment of ICE, condemnation of Israel regarding
Palestinians, etc. Basically a Marxist wishlist and they're using the
health crisis as an opportunity to get what they've always wanted but could
never achieve in the normal collective bargaining process.
They have to know that isn't going to happen. Even if Newsom was 100%
in support of their demands it can't happen as it has to go through
the process to get even the things that are under California control
and things like the abolishment of ICE aren't under the control of
Newsom. So what they are asking for is an impossible demand which can
only end with either them giving in or being fired ala Regan and the
air traffic control. Something I'm sure the actual teachers don't want
to see happen.
Post by BTR1701
The fact that they're perfectly willing to teach the illegal alien kids in
person in the convention centers, which are hotbeds for Wuhan Flu, is all
the evidence you need that they're not really afraid of the virus. They
just say they are as an excuse to keep the schools closed and maintain
their leverage.
Is that coming from the teachers or the union? I ask because from what
I've seen sometimes the union pushes for things that just aren't as
important to the rank and file but isn't a big enough issue to push
for new union leadership.
Post by BTR1701
And every politician in California is terrified of the California teachers
union. It's been called the most powerful union in America and any
politician that opposes them is destroyed by the union in the next election
when they primary him/her and throw millions of dollars to the opposition.
That may be but this isn't going to end well if the demands you've
described are what they actually want. Either they get removed along
with any teacher that refuses to teach and get replaced (even though
that will be a painful process) or the union is going to have to give
in on their demands and thereby lose some of their power (even if it
may take some months before they change their stance.) I can't really
see any other option.
Post by BTR1701
It's come to the point now where a governor who wasn't bought and paid for
by the union, who actually cared about the people of the state,
particularly the kids whose futures are being slowly destroyed by this
political bullshit, should just issue an order saying the schools will
reopen in two weeks. Any teacher who doesn't show up for work is fired.
Period. Don't like it? Sue me, but the schools are reopening.
I don't know if that's necessary now as the school year is about to
end but certainly the situation can't be allowed to persist into the
fall when school reopens.
BTR1701
2021-05-06 01:27:17 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going
on over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers
are lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new
'progressive' kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a
service, then refuse to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for
that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this
state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to
'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread.
If Trump's early actions are why California's schools are still closed, how
has literally every other state in the union managed to re-open theirs at
this point? Trump was president of those states, also.
Yup... because he let things get so bad until we were the WORST country
for covid on Earth.
Letting the virus run wild while telling people it would go away when it
got warm.
Then telling them it wasn't that deadly.
Then telling them the federal government was going to let the states
fight it out among themselves.
Then by not setting up any kind of plan to get the vaccines out.
None of which has jack all to do with the reason why 49 out of 50 states
have open schools right now and California doesn't.
Except that it sets up a situation where the virus is widespread
throughout the nation. Yes, Newsom and the rest of the government in
control of schools have made a different decision about school
openings from the other states for reasons I don't understand and so
deserve the majority of the responsibility for that decision
Not according to FPP. FPP says that it's Trump and only Trump. Contrary to
all logic and fact, he places none of the responsibility for the continued
school closure on Newsom and Garcetti. (And we all know why: they're
Democrats.)
but that
Post by shawn
doesn't abrogate Trump and his people from setting up the situation
where the virus is so widespread. So I blame Trump no more than 5-10%
for the situation in California schools.
Now the question is why are Newsom and the school officials being so
cautious about school openings?
They're not being cautious. The teachers union has a list of demands and
won't allow schools to reopen until those demands are met. And a lot of the
demands have nothing to do with the virus or even schooling: defund the
police, universal health care for all Californians, amnesty for all
illegals, abolishment of ICE, condemnation of Israel regarding
Palestinians, etc. Basically a Marxist wishlist and they're using the
health crisis as an opportunity to get what they've always wanted but could
never achieve in the normal collective bargaining process.
They have to know that isn't going to happen. Even if Newsom was 100%
in support of their demands it can't happen as it has to go through
the process to get even the things that are under California control
and things like the abolishment of ICE aren't under the control of
Newsom. So what they are asking for is an impossible demand which can
only end with either them giving in or being fired ala Regan and the
air traffic control. Something I'm sure the actual teachers don't want
to see happen.
Post by BTR1701
The fact that they're perfectly willing to teach the illegal alien kids in
person in the convention centers, which are hotbeds for Wuhan Flu, is all
the evidence you need that they're not really afraid of the virus. They
just say they are as an excuse to keep the schools closed and maintain
their leverage.
Is that coming from the teachers or the union? I ask because from what
I've seen sometimes the union pushes for things that just aren't as
important to the rank and file but isn't a big enough issue to push
for new union leadership.
If they're not willing to push for new leadership when the union is playing
games like this with the futures of millions of kids, then as far as I'm
concerned, the union *is* the teachers. There's no difference between the
goons running it and the working teachers.
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
And every politician in California is terrified of the California teachers
union. It's been called the most powerful union in America and any
politician that opposes them is destroyed by the union in the next election
when they primary him/her and throw millions of dollars to the opposition.
That may be but this isn't going to end well if the demands you've
described are what they actually want. Either they get removed along
with any teacher that refuses to teach and get replaced (even though
that will be a painful process) or the union is going to have to give
in on their demands and thereby lose some of their power (even if it
may take some months before they change their stance.) I can't really
see any other option.
Post by BTR1701
It's come to the point now where a governor who wasn't bought and paid for
by the union, who actually cared about the people of the state,
particularly the kids whose futures are being slowly destroyed by this
political bullshit, should just issue an order saying the schools will
reopen in two weeks. Any teacher who doesn't show up for work is fired.
Period. Don't like it? Sue me, but the schools are reopening.
I don't know if that's necessary now as the school year is about to
end but certainly the situation can't be allowed to persist into the
fall when school reopens.
The teachers union has already issued a statement that they "can't commit to
opening the schools in the fall".
shawn
2021-05-06 02:50:24 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
That may be but this isn't going to end well if the demands you've
described are what they actually want. Either they get removed along
with any teacher that refuses to teach and get replaced (even though
that will be a painful process) or the union is going to have to give
in on their demands and thereby lose some of their power (even if it
may take some months before they change their stance.) I can't really
see any other option.
Post by BTR1701
It's come to the point now where a governor who wasn't bought and paid for
by the union, who actually cared about the people of the state,
particularly the kids whose futures are being slowly destroyed by this
political bullshit, should just issue an order saying the schools will
reopen in two weeks. Any teacher who doesn't show up for work is fired.
Period. Don't like it? Sue me, but the schools are reopening.
I don't know if that's necessary now as the school year is about to
end but certainly the situation can't be allowed to persist into the
fall when school reopens.
The teachers union has already issued a statement that they "can't commit to
opening the schools in the fall".
Of course not. That would be equivalent to announcing their surrender.
No point in doing that at this time but that doesn't mean they won't
come around by the fall because I just can't see the state allowing
this to continue through the fall without taking some action against
the union. Given the recall petition Newsom has to realize he will
have to do something to make sure the kids are back in school in the
fall or else his job is done for.
FPP
2021-05-06 07:45:09 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going
on over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers
are lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new
'progressive' kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a
service, then refuse to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for
that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this
state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to
'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread.
If Trump's early actions are why California's schools are still closed, how
has literally every other state in the union managed to re-open theirs at
this point? Trump was president of those states, also.
Yup... because he let things get so bad until we were the WORST country
for covid on Earth.
Letting the virus run wild while telling people it would go away when it
got warm.
Then telling them it wasn't that deadly.
Then telling them the federal government was going to let the states
fight it out among themselves.
Then by not setting up any kind of plan to get the vaccines out.
None of which has jack all to do with the reason why 49 out of 50 states
have open schools right now and California doesn't.
Except that it sets up a situation where the virus is widespread
throughout the nation. Yes, Newsom and the rest of the government in
control of schools have made a different decision about school
openings from the other states for reasons I don't understand and so
deserve the majority of the responsibility for that decision
Not according to FPP. FPP says that it's Trump and only Trump. Contrary to
all logic and fact, he places none of the responsibility for the continued
school closure on Newsom and Garcetti. (And we all know why: they're
Democrats.)
but that
Post by shawn
doesn't abrogate Trump and his people from setting up the situation
where the virus is so widespread. So I blame Trump no more than 5-10%
for the situation in California schools.
Now the question is why are Newsom and the school officials being so
cautious about school openings?
They're not being cautious. The teachers union has a list of demands and
won't allow schools to reopen until those demands are met. And a lot of the
demands have nothing to do with the virus or even schooling: defund the
police, universal health care for all Californians, amnesty for all
illegals, abolishment of ICE, condemnation of Israel regarding
Palestinians, etc. Basically a Marxist wishlist and they're using the
health crisis as an opportunity to get what they've always wanted but could
never achieve in the normal collective bargaining process.
They have to know that isn't going to happen. Even if Newsom was 100%
in support of their demands it can't happen as it has to go through
the process to get even the things that are under California control
and things like the abolishment of ICE aren't under the control of
Newsom. So what they are asking for is an impossible demand which can
only end with either them giving in or being fired ala Regan and the
air traffic control. Something I'm sure the actual teachers don't want
to see happen.
Post by BTR1701
The fact that they're perfectly willing to teach the illegal alien kids in
person in the convention centers, which are hotbeds for Wuhan Flu, is all
the evidence you need that they're not really afraid of the virus. They
just say they are as an excuse to keep the schools closed and maintain
their leverage.
Is that coming from the teachers or the union? I ask because from what
I've seen sometimes the union pushes for things that just aren't as
important to the rank and file but isn't a big enough issue to push
for new union leadership.
If they're not willing to push for new leadership when the union is playing
games like this with the futures of millions of kids, then as far as I'm
concerned, the union *is* the teachers. There's no difference between the
goons running it and the working teachers.
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
And every politician in California is terrified of the California teachers
union. It's been called the most powerful union in America and any
politician that opposes them is destroyed by the union in the next election
when they primary him/her and throw millions of dollars to the opposition.
That may be but this isn't going to end well if the demands you've
described are what they actually want. Either they get removed along
with any teacher that refuses to teach and get replaced (even though
that will be a painful process) or the union is going to have to give
in on their demands and thereby lose some of their power (even if it
may take some months before they change their stance.) I can't really
see any other option.
Post by BTR1701
It's come to the point now where a governor who wasn't bought and paid for
by the union, who actually cared about the people of the state,
particularly the kids whose futures are being slowly destroyed by this
political bullshit, should just issue an order saying the schools will
reopen in two weeks. Any teacher who doesn't show up for work is fired.
Period. Don't like it? Sue me, but the schools are reopening.
I don't know if that's necessary now as the school year is about to
end but certainly the situation can't be allowed to persist into the
fall when school reopens.
The teachers union has already issued a statement that they "can't commit to
opening the schools in the fall".
Who know what fuckups Republicans can manage in the next 4 months?
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
trotsky
2021-05-06 10:05:45 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
The fact that they're perfectly willing to teach the illegal alien kids in
person in the convention centers, which are hotbeds for Wuhan Flu, is all
the evidence you need that they're not really afraid of the virus. They
just say they are as an excuse to keep the schools closed and maintain
their leverage.
Is that coming from the teachers or the union? I ask because from what
I've seen sometimes the union pushes for things that just aren't as
important to the rank and file but isn't a big enough issue to push
for new union leadership.
If they're not willing to push for new leadership when the union is playing
games like this with the futures of millions of kids,
Say what? Isn't the proper "conservative" answer to pick yourself up by
your dickstraps and put your kids in private school?
GLOBUS
2021-05-07 03:00:00 UTC
Permalink
On May 5, 2021 at 6:05:36 PM PDT, "shawn"
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
The fact that they're perfectly willing to teach the illegal alien kids in
person in the convention centers, which are hotbeds for Wuhan Flu, is all
the evidence you need that they're not really afraid of the virus. They
just say they are as an excuse to keep the schools closed and maintain
their leverage.
Is that coming from the teachers or the union? I ask because from what
I've seen sometimes the union pushes for things that just aren't as
important to the rank and file but isn't a big enough issue to push
for new union leadership.
If they're not willing to push for new leadership when the union is playing
games like this with the futures of millions of kids,
Say what?  Isn't the proper "conservative" answer to pick yourself up by
your dickstraps and put your kids in private school?
Give us a property tax refund, fecal-skin.
FPP
2021-05-06 07:44:04 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going
on over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers
are lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new
'progressive' kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a
service, then refuse to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this
state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to
'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread.
If Trump's early actions are why California's schools are still closed, how
has literally every other state in the union managed to re-open theirs at
this point? Trump was president of those states, also.
Yup... because he let things get so bad until we were the WORST country
for covid on Earth.
Letting the virus run wild while telling people it would go away when it
got warm.
Then telling them it wasn't that deadly.
Then telling them the federal government was going to let the states
fight it out among themselves.
Then by not setting up any kind of plan to get the vaccines out.
None of which has jack all to do with the reason why 49 out of 50 states
have open schools right now and California doesn't.
Except that it sets up a situation where the virus is widespread
throughout the nation. Yes, Newsom and the rest of the government in
control of schools have made a different decision about school
openings from the other states for reasons I don't understand and so
deserve the majority of the responsibility for that decision
Not according to FPP. FPP says that it's Trump and only Trump. Contrary to
all logic and fact, he places none of the responsibility for the continued
school closure on Newsom and Garcetti. (And we all know why: they're
Democrats.)
Who left it to the states to fight it out among themselves?
Right... Trump.

Who refused to plan to distribute the vaccine?
Right... Trump.

Who appointed a radiologist to head his covid team?
Right... Trump.

Who fucked up every single decision (except Operation Warp Speed)?
Right... Trump.

Stop making excuses for him. Had ANYONE else been in charge, we
wouldn't be where we were on January 21st.
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
trotsky
2021-05-06 10:03:49 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going
on over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers
are lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new
'progressive' kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a
service, then refuse to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this
state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to
'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread.
If Trump's early actions are why California's schools are still closed, how
has literally every other state in the union managed to re-open theirs at
this point? Trump was president of those states, also.
Yup... because he let things get so bad until we were the WORST country
for covid on Earth.
Letting the virus run wild while telling people it would go away when it
got warm.
Then telling them it wasn't that deadly.
Then telling them the federal government was going to let the states
fight it out among themselves.
Then by not setting up any kind of plan to get the vaccines out.
None of which has jack all to do with the reason why 49 out of 50 states
have open schools right now and California doesn't.
Except that it sets up a situation where the virus is widespread
throughout the nation. Yes, Newsom and the rest of the government in
control of schools have made a different decision about school
openings from the other states for reasons I don't understand and so
deserve the majority of the responsibility for that decision
Not according to FPP. FPP says that it's Trump and only Trump.
And what is it you're saying FPP is the final arbiter of?
FPP
2021-05-06 13:36:04 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
On May 4, 2021 at 6:02:32 PM PDT, "shawn"
On Tue, 04 May 2021 18:21:34 -0500, BTR1701
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going
on over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers
are lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new
'progressive' kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a
service, then refuse to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject
Bleach for
that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except
California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency worldwide
has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who control this
state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have refused to
'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread.
If Trump's early actions are why California's schools are still closed, how
has literally every other state in the union managed to re-open theirs at
this point? Trump was president of those states, also.
Yup... because he let things get so bad until we were the WORST country
for covid on Earth.
Letting the virus run wild while telling people it would go away when it
got warm.
Then telling them it wasn't that deadly.
Then telling them the federal government was going to let the states
fight it out among themselves.
Then by not setting up any kind of plan to get the vaccines out.
None of which has jack all to do with the reason why 49 out of 50 states
have open schools right now and California doesn't.
Except that it sets up a situation where the virus is widespread
throughout the nation. Yes, Newsom and the rest of the government in
control of schools have made a different decision about school
openings from the other states for reasons I don't understand and so
deserve the majority of the responsibility for that decision
Not according to FPP. FPP says that it's Trump and only Trump.
Funny how well things have gone since he's been gone, isn't it?

Vaccinations are among the top in the world.
The economy is zooming along at 6% growth.
The grate border 'crisis' is DOWN 82%.
Government is competent again.

Refresh my memory... what's changed?
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
trotsky
2021-05-05 13:28:33 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him for
a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was* still
president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of state and
local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti, and all the
other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not. And
that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread.
If Trump's early actions are why California's schools are still closed, how
has literally every other state in the union managed to re-open theirs at this
point? Trump was president of those states, also.
Maybe your gal Caitlin Jenner is behind it.
Micky DuPree
2021-05-15 13:28:46 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California
has opened its schools?
[yadda yadda]
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread. That said it's certainly true
that the final decision on school closings is down to the state and
local municipalities. I'm not sure why they refuse to even consider
opening the schools in at least a partial mode.
Don't get taken in. According to the _Los Angeles Times_ coronavirus
newsletter, 50% of California students have had the option of returning
to the classroom since at least April 21 (that's the oldest newsletter I
have saved), and the current figure of students who have returned is
48%. No, it's not 100%, but it ain't zero either.

Also don't get taken in by the more outrageous claims of demands by
teachers.

-Micky
BTR1701
2021-05-15 17:51:16 UTC
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Post by Micky DuPree
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California
has opened its schools?
[yadda yadda]
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread. That said it's certainly true
that the final decision on school closings is down to the state and
local municipalities. I'm not sure why they refuse to even consider
opening the schools in at least a partial mode.
Don't get taken in. According to the _Los Angeles Times_ coronavirus
newsletter, 50% of California students have had the option of returning
to the classroom since at least April 21
Don't get taken in.

They can return to the classroom and do Zoom-in-a-room, where they just
sit there and do the same online learning they did at home. No actual
teachers teaching, no ability to interact with other students, just five
hours in front of a screen in a glorified study hall, and they can only
do that a couple days a week.

This is being done only so Newsom can declare he "opened the schools" in
the face of his recall, but it's all a lie to fool voters into thinking
he did something significant. A school counts as "open" under Newsom's
rubric if it allows students in the building for as little as a few
hours one day out of the week.

And the El Segundo Times (nee the L.A. Times) is happy to perpetuate
this fiction for him because it's nothing more than a mouthpiece for the
Democrat Party at this point.

Once again, there's an absolutely unassailable fact that neither the El
Segundo Times, Emperor Newsom, FPP, nor Mickey have been able to
explain: why 49 out of 50 states have open schools and only one does
not.

And it's not because of Trump.
FPP
2021-05-15 22:00:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California
has opened its schools?
[yadda yadda]
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread. That said it's certainly true
that the final decision on school closings is down to the state and
local municipalities. I'm not sure why they refuse to even consider
opening the schools in at least a partial mode.
Don't get taken in. According to the _Los Angeles Times_ coronavirus
newsletter, 50% of California students have had the option of returning
to the classroom since at least April 21
Don't get taken in.
They can return to the classroom and do Zoom-in-a-room, where they just
sit there and do the same online learning they did at home. No actual
teachers teaching, no ability to interact with other students, just five
hours in front of a screen in a glorified study hall, and they can only
do that a couple days a week.
This is being done only so Newsom can declare he "opened the schools" in
the face of his recall, but it's all a lie to fool voters into thinking
he did something significant. A school counts as "open" under Newsom's
rubric if it allows students in the building for as little as a few
hours one day out of the week.
And the El Segundo Times (nee the L.A. Times) is happy to perpetuate
this fiction for him because it's nothing more than a mouthpiece for the
Democrat Party at this point.
Once again, there's an absolutely unassailable fact that neither the El
Segundo Times, Emperor Newsom, FPP, nor Mickey have been able to
explain: why 49 out of 50 states have open schools and only one does
not.
And it's not because of Trump.
Trust Burger Boy... he never lies.

Just ask Kamala Harris about her book, or Joe Biden about his 'meat ban'.
--
Burger Boy wants a quote: "We all want to live to be a hundred, but
some of us don't want to live that long if it means a hundred years
without sugar, cheeseburgers, and the morning bite of that first drag
off a Newport 100." - B(urger Boy)TR1701 4-29-21

Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
trotsky
2021-05-16 11:32:22 UTC
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Post by Micky DuPree
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California
has opened its schools?
[yadda yadda]
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread. That said it's certainly true
that the final decision on school closings is down to the state and
local municipalities. I'm not sure why they refuse to even consider
opening the schools in at least a partial mode.
Don't get taken in. According to the _Los Angeles Times_ coronavirus
newsletter, 50% of California students have had the option of returning
to the classroom since at least April 21
Don't get taken in.
They can return to the classroom and do Zoom-in-a-room, where they just
sit there and do the same online learning they did at home. No actual
teachers teaching, no ability to interact with other students,
They'd be sitting in empty classrooms? That sounds rather silly. And
false.
BTR1701
2021-05-16 18:14:39 UTC
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Post by trotsky
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California
has opened its schools?
[yadda yadda]
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread. That said it's certainly true
that the final decision on school closings is down to the state and
local municipalities. I'm not sure why they refuse to even consider
opening the schools in at least a partial mode.
Don't get taken in. According to the _Los Angeles Times_ coronavirus
newsletter, 50% of California students have had the option of returning
to the classroom since at least April 21
Don't get taken in.
They can return to the classroom and do Zoom-in-a-room, where they just
sit there and do the same online learning they did at home. No actual
teachers teaching, no ability to interact with other students,
They'd be sitting in empty classrooms? That sounds rather silly. And
false.
Wrong as usual, Hutt.

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trotsky
2021-05-17 10:28:33 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by trotsky
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by Micky DuPree
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California
has opened its schools?
[yadda yadda]
Post by shawn
Post by BTR1701
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
I would place part of the fault with Trump but only part. That's
because he didn't want to take the virus seriously and do what was
necessary early on to limit the spread. That said it's certainly true
that the final decision on school closings is down to the state and
local municipalities. I'm not sure why they refuse to even consider
opening the schools in at least a partial mode.
Don't get taken in. According to the _Los Angeles Times_ coronavirus
newsletter, 50% of California students have had the option of returning
to the classroom since at least April 21
Don't get taken in.
They can return to the classroom and do Zoom-in-a-room, where they just
sit there and do the same online learning they did at home. No actual
teachers teaching, no ability to interact with other students,
They'd be sitting in empty classrooms? That sounds rather silly. And
false.
Wrong as usual, Hutt.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/o506bgo60lks21g/Zoom.jpg?dl=0
I've said it multiple times before and I'll just keep saying it because
you're so fucking stupid:

A REPRESENTATIVE SAMPLING OF ONE IS STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT.

This translates to your dropbox image isn't proof of jack shit. Per usual.
FPP
2021-05-05 10:02:09 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that...
It was called "2020".
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
BTR1701
2021-05-05 17:57:41 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men
with guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in
NY. It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have
three separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village
tax in June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone
are a thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency
worldwide has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who
control this state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have
refused to 'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was*
still president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of
state and local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti,
and all the other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all
Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
It was called "2020".
So no answer, then.
FPP
2021-05-05 21:16:54 UTC
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Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by FPP
Post by BTR1701
Post by anim8rfsk
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men
with guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in
NY. It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have
three separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village
tax in June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone
are a thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency
worldwide has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who
control this state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have
refused to 'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was*
still president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of
state and local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti,
and all the other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all
Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
It was called "2020".
So no answer, then.
Yup. Trump fucked up every single person in America.

And you complain when politicians mandate anything... but they should
when YOU want them to.
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
BTR1701
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Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men
with guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in
NY. It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have
three separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village
tax in June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone
are a thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency
worldwide has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who
control this state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have
refused to 'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was*
still president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of
state and local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti,
and all the other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all
Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
It was called "2020".
So no answer, then.
Yup. Trump fucked up every single person in America.
And you complain when politicians mandate anything... but they should
when YOU want them to.
So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the schools are
closed in only one state when he's not even in office anymore is...

"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
FPP
2021-05-06 07:40:46 UTC
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Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men
with guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in
NY. It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have
three separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village
tax in June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone
are a thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency
worldwide has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who
control this state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have
refused to 'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was*
still president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of
state and local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti,
and all the other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all
Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
It was called "2020".
So no answer, then.
Yup. Trump fucked up every single person in America.
And you complain when politicians mandate anything... but they should
when YOU want them to.
So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the schools are
closed in only one state when he's not even in office anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem and
letting it get out of hand nationwide.

And Biden is fixing it. No more pretending to 'round the corner'...
Biden is ACTUALLY rounding the corner.
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
BTR1701
2021-05-06 10:07:34 UTC
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Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men
with guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in
NY. It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have
three separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village
tax in June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone
are a thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency
worldwide has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who
control this state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have
refused to 'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was*
still president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of
state and local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti,
and all the other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all
Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
It was called "2020".
So no answer, then.
Yup. Trump fucked up every single person in America.
And you complain when politicians mandate anything... but they should
when YOU want them to.
So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the schools are
closed in only one state when he's not even in office anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem and
letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?

All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic bogeyman,
yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
FPP
2021-05-06 13:36:41 UTC
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Post by anim8rfsk
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men
with guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in
NY. It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have
three separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village
tax in June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone
are a thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency
worldwide has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who
control this state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have
refused to 'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was*
still president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of
state and local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti,
and all the other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all
Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
It was called "2020".
So no answer, then.
Yup. Trump fucked up every single person in America.
And you complain when politicians mandate anything... but they should
when YOU want them to.
So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the schools are
closed in only one state when he's not even in office anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem and
letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic bogeyman,
yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
BTR1701
2021-05-06 17:10:05 UTC
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Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men
with guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in
NY. It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have
three separate property tax bills. Town and county in January,
village
tax in June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone
are a thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for
that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency
worldwide has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who
control this state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have
refused to 'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was*
still president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of
state and local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti,
and all the other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all
Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
It was called "2020".
So no answer, then.
Yup. Trump fucked up every single person in America.
And you complain when politicians mandate anything... but they should
when YOU want them to.
So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the schools are
closed in only one state when he's not even in office anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem and
letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic bogeyman,
yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
FPP
2021-05-06 22:22:50 UTC
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Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men
with guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in
NY. It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have
three separate property tax bills. Town and county in January,
village
tax in June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone
are a thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for
that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency
worldwide has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who
control this state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have
refused to 'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was*
still president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of
state and local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti,
and all the other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all
Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
It was called "2020".
So no answer, then.
Yup. Trump fucked up every single person in America.
And you complain when politicians mandate anything... but they should
when YOU want them to.
So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the schools are
closed in only one state when he's not even in office anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem and
letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic bogeyman,
yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
Morons beget morons...
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
BTR1701
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Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep
men
with guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here
in
NY. It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I
have
three separate property tax bills. Town and county in January,
village
tax in June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes
alone
are a thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're
going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers
are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new
'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then
refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for
that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency
worldwide has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who
control this state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes have
refused to 'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was*
still president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of
state and local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom, Garcetti,
and all the other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all
Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
It was called "2020".
So no answer, then.
Yup. Trump fucked up every single person in America.
And you complain when politicians mandate anything... but they should
when YOU want them to.
So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the schools are
closed in only one state when he's not even in office anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem and
letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic bogeyman,
yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm allegedly
preventing California from re-opening its schools. Which means your assertion
was bullshit.
FPP
2021-05-07 03:00:52 UTC
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Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep
men
with guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here
in
NY. It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I
have
three separate property tax bills. Town and county in January,
village
tax in June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes
alone
are a thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're
going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers
are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new
'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then
refuse
to provide that service.
Well, you can thank your Grate Leeder... President Inject Bleach for
that.
How exactly is it Trump's doing that every state except California
has
opened its schools? That the CDC and every public health agency
worldwide has said it's safe to open schools but the Democrats who
control this state and the teachers unions that hold their leashes
have
refused to 'follow the science' like every other state has done?
Trump isn't even in office anymore but retards like FPP are blaming
him
for a situation that wouldn't be under his control even if he *was*
still president. Opening the schools (or not) is purely a matter of
state and local jurisdiction. That means it's down to Newsom,
Garcetti,
and all the other 'progressives' that supposedly run this place-- all
Democrats.
Once again, 49 out of 50 states have open schools. Only one does not.
And that's not because of Trump.
It was called "2020".
So no answer, then.
Yup. Trump fucked up every single person in America.
And you complain when politicians mandate anything... but they should
when YOU want them to.
So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the schools are
closed in only one state when he's not even in office anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem and
letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic bogeyman,
yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm allegedly
preventing California from re-opening its schools. Which means your assertion
was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation. Or are we supposed to
believe you act normally outside of Usenet?
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
BTR1701
2021-05-07 04:11:46 UTC
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm allegedly
preventing California from re-opening its schools. Which means your
assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation with
its schools closed? Seriously?

That Newsom and Garcetti and all those Democrats are (1) looking to me
to decide whether to open schools around the state, and (2) are so
stupid as to be fooled by whatever 'misinformation' you claim I'm
spreading.

Okaaayyy... FPPAnon
FPP
2021-05-07 07:41:56 UTC
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm allegedly
preventing California from re-opening its schools. Which means your
assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation with
its schools closed? Seriously?
Yup. You and everybody LIKE you. I never said you were alone in your
fuckwittery.

Everybody you meet, and everybody you come across on-line.
Just like you do here.
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
BTR1701
2021-05-07 17:02:42 UTC
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm allegedly
preventing California from re-opening its schools. Which means your
assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation with
its schools closed? Seriously?
Yup. You and everybody LIKE you. I never said you were alone in your
fuckwittery.
Everybody you meet, and everybody you come across on-line.
Just like you do here.
Okay, FPPAnon. Whatever you say, just calm down and eat your pudding.
FPP
2021-05-07 20:53:59 UTC
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm allegedly
preventing California from re-opening its schools. Which means your
assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation with
its schools closed? Seriously?
Yup. You and everybody LIKE you. I never said you were alone in your
fuckwittery.
Everybody you meet, and everybody you come across on-line.
Just like you do here.
Okay, FPPAnon. Whatever you say, just calm down and eat your pudding.
Great comeback! Can I use that when I don't have an argument to make too?
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm allegedly
preventing California from re-opening its schools. Which means your
assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation with
its schools closed? Seriously?
Yup. You and everybody LIKE you. I never said you were alone in your
fuckwittery.
Me and everyone like me is saying the science-supported *truth*; we're
saying what the CDC and every other health organization around the world is
saying: the schools are safe to open.

It's the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid for
politicians that are in the business of spreading misinformation on the
subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools (except for when
we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive illegals, that is), oh
and by the way, here's a list of proto-communist demands that, if met, will
suddenly make the schools safe again."
FPP
2021-05-08 07:07:43 UTC
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm allegedly
preventing California from re-opening its schools. Which means your
assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation with
its schools closed? Seriously?
Yup. You and everybody LIKE you. I never said you were alone in your
fuckwittery.
Me and everyone like me is saying the science-supported *truth*; we're
saying what the CDC and every other health organization around the world is
saying: the schools are safe to open.
It's the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid for
politicians that are in the business of spreading misinformation on the
subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools (except for when
we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive illegals, that is), oh
and by the way, here's a list of proto-communist demands that, if met, will
suddenly make the schools safe again."
What does that have to do with you spreading misinformation, fuckwit.
Try and concentrate on what we're talking about.

Tell us again how masks don't stop the virus because the particles are
too small.

Then you can go on to Kamala's book, and Biden's burgers.
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
BTR1701
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm allegedly
preventing California from re-opening its schools. Which means your
assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation with
its schools closed? Seriously?
Yup. You and everybody LIKE you. I never said you were alone in your
fuckwittery.
Me and everyone like me is saying the science-supported *truth*; we're
saying what the CDC and every other health organization around the world is
saying: the schools are safe to open.
It's the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid for
politicians that are in the business of spreading misinformation on the
subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools (except for when
we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive illegals, that is), oh
and by the way, here's a list of proto-communist demands that, if met, will
suddenly make the schools safe again."
What does that have to do with you spreading misinformation, fuckwit.
Because what I'm saying isn't misinformation; it's the science-supported
*truth*; it's what the CDC and every other health organization around the
world is saying: the schools are safe to open.
Post by FPP
Try and concentrate on what we're talking about.
For several days now, we've been talking about how California is the only
state in in the union that's ignoring the science on school re-openings,
and how the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid
for politicians are in the business of spreading misinformation on the
subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools (except for when
we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive illegals, that is), oh,
and by the way, here's a list of proto-communist demands that, if met, will
suddenly make the schools safe again."
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2021-05-08 11:44:27 UTC
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm allegedly
preventing California from re-opening its schools. Which means your
assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation with
its schools closed? Seriously?
Yup. You and everybody LIKE you. I never said you were alone in your
fuckwittery.
Me and everyone like me is saying the science-supported *truth*; we're
saying what the CDC and every other health organization around the world is
saying: the schools are safe to open.
It's the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid for
politicians that are in the business of spreading misinformation on the
subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools (except for when
we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive illegals, that is), oh
and by the way, here's a list of proto-communist demands that, if met, will
suddenly make the schools safe again."
What does that have to do with you spreading misinformation, fuckwit.
Because what I'm saying isn't misinformation; it's the science-supported
*truth*; it's what the CDC and every other health organization around the
world is saying: the schools are safe to open.
When are you planning to pull the truth for such a thing out of your
arse as usual?
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2021-05-08 13:18:03 UTC
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm allegedly
preventing California from re-opening its schools. Which means your
assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation with
its schools closed? Seriously?
Yup. You and everybody LIKE you. I never said you were alone in your
fuckwittery.
Me and everyone like me is saying the science-supported *truth*; we're
saying what the CDC and every other health organization around the world is
saying: the schools are safe to open.
It's the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid for
politicians that are in the business of spreading misinformation on the
subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools (except for when
we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive illegals, that is), oh
and by the way, here's a list of proto-communist demands that, if met, will
suddenly make the schools safe again."
What does that have to do with you spreading misinformation, fuckwit.
Because what I'm saying isn't misinformation; it's the science-supported
*truth*; it's what the CDC and every other health organization around the
world is saying: the schools are safe to open.
Post by FPP
Try and concentrate on what we're talking about.
For several days now, we've been talking about how California is the only
state in in the union that's ignoring the science on school re-openings,
and how the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid
for politicians are in the business of spreading misinformation on the
subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools (except for when
we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive illegals, that is), oh,
and by the way, here's a list of proto-communist demands that, if met, will
suddenly make the schools safe again."
You know practically nobody believes you about anything any more.

That's what happens when you get caught lying multiple times a week, and
never address it.

Continue with your rant.
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
BTR1701
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in
office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the
problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm
allegedly preventing California from re-opening its schools.
Which means your assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation
with its schools closed? Seriously?
Yup. You and everybody LIKE you. I never said you were alone in your
fuckwittery.
Me and everyone like me is saying the science-supported *truth*; we're
saying what the CDC and every other health organization around the world
is saying: the schools are safe to open.
It's the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid
for politicians that are in the business of spreading misinformation
on the subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools
(except for when we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive
illegals, that is), oh and by the way, here's a list of proto-
communist demands that, if met, will suddenly make the schools safe
again."
What does that have to do with you spreading misinformation, fuckwit.
Because what I'm saying isn't misinformation; it's the science-supported
*truth*; it's what the CDC and every other health organization around the
world is saying: the schools are safe to open.
Post by FPP
Try and concentrate on what we're talking about.
For several days now, we've been talking about how California is the only
state in in the union that's ignoring the science on school re-openings,
and how the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid
for politicians are in the business of spreading misinformation on the
subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools (except for
when we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive illegals, that is),
oh, and by the way, here's a list of proto-communist demands that, if
met, will suddenly make the schools safe again."
You know practically nobody believes you about anything any more.
More lies. How can you possibly know what everyone else does and does
not believe?

Are you adding 'psychic' to your list of talents?
Post by FPP
Continue with your rant.
I accept your inability to refute what I said, beyond ridiculously
accusing me of somehow influencing politicians hundreds of miles of away
by spreading the same 'misinformation' that the the CDC and every other
health organization around the world is spreading. But if I did
influence them, the schools would be open, not closed, so even that
doesn't make any sense.
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2021-05-08 22:06:47 UTC
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in
office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the
problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm
allegedly preventing California from re-opening its schools.
Which means your assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation
with its schools closed? Seriously?
Yup. You and everybody LIKE you. I never said you were alone in your
fuckwittery.
Me and everyone like me is saying the science-supported *truth*; we're
saying what the CDC and every other health organization around the world
is saying: the schools are safe to open.
It's the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid
for politicians that are in the business of spreading misinformation
on the subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools
(except for when we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive
illegals, that is), oh and by the way, here's a list of proto-
communist demands that, if met, will suddenly make the schools safe
again."
What does that have to do with you spreading misinformation, fuckwit.
Because what I'm saying isn't misinformation; it's the science-supported
*truth*; it's what the CDC and every other health organization around the
world is saying: the schools are safe to open.
Post by FPP
Try and concentrate on what we're talking about.
For several days now, we've been talking about how California is the only
state in in the union that's ignoring the science on school re-openings,
and how the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid
for politicians are in the business of spreading misinformation on the
subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools (except for
when we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive illegals, that is),
oh, and by the way, here's a list of proto-communist demands that, if
met, will suddenly make the schools safe again."
You know practically nobody believes you about anything any more.
More lies. How can you possibly know what everyone else does and does
not believe?
Look up the phrase "practically nobody".
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in
office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the
problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm
allegedly preventing California from re-opening its schools.
Which means your assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation
with its schools closed? Seriously?
Yup. You and everybody LIKE you. I never said you were alone in your
fuckwittery.
Me and everyone like me is saying the science-supported *truth*; we're
saying what the CDC and every other health organization around the world
is saying: the schools are safe to open.
It's the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid
for politicians that are in the business of spreading misinformation
on the subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools
(except for when we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive
illegals, that is), oh and by the way, here's a list of proto-
communist demands that, if met, will suddenly make the schools safe
again."
What does that have to do with you spreading misinformation, fuckwit.
Because what I'm saying isn't misinformation; it's the science-supported
*truth*; it's what the CDC and every other health organization around the
world is saying: the schools are safe to open.
Post by FPP
Try and concentrate on what we're talking about.
For several days now, we've been talking about how California is the only
state in in the union that's ignoring the science on school re-openings,
and how the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid
for politicians are in the business of spreading misinformation on the
subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools (except for
when we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive illegals, that is),
oh, and by the way, here's a list of proto-communist demands that, if
met, will suddenly make the schools safe again."
You know practically nobody believes you about anything any more.
More lies. How can you possibly know what everyone else does and does
not believe?
Look up the phrase "practically nobody".
So you're only mostly psychic, then?
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2021-05-08 22:09:33 UTC
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So FPP's answer as to how exactly it's Trump's fault that the
schools are closed in only one state when he's not even in
office
anymore is...
"But Trump! Orange man bad!"
They're closed because he spent an entire year denying the
problem
and letting it get out of hand nationwide.
Then how have the other 49 states managed to open?
All 50 states labored under the same yoke of your orange demonic
bogeyman, yet only one hasn't managed to re-open.
They don't have fuckwits like you living there I'd imagine.
What exactly do I have to do with California's failure to re-open?
Well, if you've been doing there what you do here - a lot.
So you're unable to provide an exact description of how I'm
allegedly preventing California from re-opening its schools.
Which means your assertion was bullshit.
Same way you're doing it here. Misinformation.
So it's your contention that I'm running around the state spreading
misinformation and that's why California stands alone in the nation
with its schools closed? Seriously?
Yup. You and everybody LIKE you. I never said you were alone in your
fuckwittery.
Me and everyone like me is saying the science-supported *truth*; we're
saying what the CDC and every other health organization around the world
is saying: the schools are safe to open.
It's the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid
for politicians that are in the business of spreading misinformation
on the subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools
(except for when we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive
illegals, that is), oh and by the way, here's a list of proto-
communist demands that, if met, will suddenly make the schools safe
again."
What does that have to do with you spreading misinformation, fuckwit.
Because what I'm saying isn't misinformation; it's the science-supported
*truth*; it's what the CDC and every other health organization around the
world is saying: the schools are safe to open.
Post by FPP
Try and concentrate on what we're talking about.
For several days now, we've been talking about how California is the only
state in in the union that's ignoring the science on school re-openings,
and how the Democrat-supported teachers unions and their bought-and-paid
for politicians are in the business of spreading misinformation on the
subject by saying, "It's too dangerous to open the schools (except for
when we're teaching a population of 10% Wuhan-positive illegals, that is),
oh, and by the way, here's a list of proto-communist demands that, if
met, will suddenly make the schools safe again."
You know practically nobody believes you about anything any more.
More lies. How can you possibly know what everyone else does and does
not believe?
Let's see... we have the Harris Book Lie, the Biden Burger Lie, the
Obama Encouraged Illegals to vote Lie, the FBI SEIZED Hillary's Server
Lie, the "Barack the Magic Negro" Isn't Racist Lie.

And about 20 others I'm not going to even bother looking up.
Bottom Line: You're a Fucking Liar (tm).
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
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BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
We’d be better off if they didn’t provide the service. The catalog for our
community colleges includes things like how to swindle people by being a
pet medium.
--
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
trotsky
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BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
It's especially fun paying those school taxes here while we're going on
over a year that the schools have been shuttered and the teachers are
lobbying to never go back to work again. This is the new 'progressive'
kind of taxation, where they tax you to pay for a service, then refuse
to provide that service.
Grow a pair of balls and not pay them out of protest.
number6
2021-05-04 21:07:32 UTC
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Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
Property tax here in NJ for a nice but not extravagant home runs about 15 K a year ... we're in a "low taxed" town and pay about 12 K ... NJ rates near the top 5 in each of property, sales, income and gasoline taxes ...
anim8rfsk
2021-05-04 23:31:43 UTC
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Post by number6
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
Property tax here in NJ for a nice but not extravagant home runs about 15
K a year ... we're in a "low taxed" town and pay about 12 K ... NJ rates
near the top 5 in each of property, sales, income and gasoline taxes ...
Gah
--
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
Adam H. Kerman
2021-05-05 20:15:41 UTC
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Post by EGK
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
I'm glad I rent.
Bonk

What makes you think that the portion of the rent you pay that goes
toward the value of the location is renters-equivalant property tax?
Just because you don't receive the bill doesn't mean you don't pay.
suzeeq
2021-05-05 20:30:26 UTC
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Post by Adam H. Kerman
Post by EGK
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired
on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I
still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them
pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
Ditto, But I pay a lot in county property tax extortion to keep men with
guns from taking my home.
Same here. I'm on social sec but pay a lot in property taxes here in NY.
It's one of the most heavily taxed states in the country. I have three
separate property tax bills. Town and county in January, village tax in
June and separate school taxes in Sept. My school taxes alone are a
thousand dollars a year.
I'm glad I rent.
Bonk
What makes you think that the portion of the rent you pay that goes
toward the value of the location is renters-equivalant property tax?
Just because you don't receive the bill doesn't mean you don't pay.
I realize that property tax is a portion of the rent. But I don't have
the actual bill and until this year, the rent hasn't gone up
appreciably. The unit sold last year and I got hit with a $100 raise.
That's due mostly to the new owner and real estate prices going up a lot
in this part of the country because people are fleeing BTRland.
number6
2021-05-04 21:01:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
A Friend
2021-05-04 21:59:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on
social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still
pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay
taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are
called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine
on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you
have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us
taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package
cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
What he said. We *have* to start taking out the money when my wife
turns 70-1/2 next year, and at that point it will be taxable. We've
been doing just fine on SS, since we paid off the mortgage several
years ago, and our needs are few. They're *making* us do this for no
good reason.

We were careful and thrifty, we still are, and now we're going to be
made to pay for it.
number6
2021-05-04 22:52:21 UTC
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What he said. We *have* to start taking out the money when my wife
turns 70-1/2 next year, and at that point it will be taxable. We've
been doing just fine on SS, since we paid off the mortgage several
years ago, and our needs are few. They're *making* us do this for no
good reason.
We were careful and thrifty, we still are, and now we're going to be
made to pay for it.
It gets easy to be thrifty when retired ... matinees at the movies ... senior discounts in restaurants etc ...
No commuting expenses ... my 2012 car just broke 50K miles ... It's less than 5 miles to the mall, good restaurants, nice parks and lakes ... and pajamas with a bathrobe is called work clothes ... Even only 4 haircuts a year from the 12 when working gives a decent casino stake ...
BTR1701
2021-05-04 23:21:34 UTC
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Post by A Friend
Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on
social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still
pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay
taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are
called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine
on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you
have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us
taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package
cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
What he said. We *have* to start taking out the money when my wife
turns 70-1/2 next year, and at that point it will be taxable. We've
been doing just fine on SS, since we paid off the mortgage several
years ago, and our needs are few. They're *making* us do this for no
good reason.
We were careful and thrifty, we still are, and now we're going to be
made to pay for it.
The people who play by the rules, work hard, do the right thing, are always
the people the government fraks over the hardest.
anim8rfsk
2021-05-04 23:45:36 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by A Friend
Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on
social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still
pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay
taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are
called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine
on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you
have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us
taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package
cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
What he said. We *have* to start taking out the money when my wife
turns 70-1/2 next year, and at that point it will be taxable. We've
been doing just fine on SS, since we paid off the mortgage several
years ago, and our needs are few. They're *making* us do this for no
good reason.
We were careful and thrifty, we still are, and now we're going to be
made to pay for it.
The people who play by the rules, work hard, do the right thing, are always
the people the government fraks over the hardest.
The IRS specializes in that
--
“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
FPP
2021-05-05 10:00:56 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
Post by A Friend
Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on
social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still
pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay
taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are
called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine
on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you
have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us
taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package
cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
What he said. We *have* to start taking out the money when my wife
turns 70-1/2 next year, and at that point it will be taxable. We've
been doing just fine on SS, since we paid off the mortgage several
years ago, and our needs are few. They're *making* us do this for no
good reason.
We were careful and thrifty, we still are, and now we're going to be
made to pay for it.
The people who play by the rules, work hard, do the right thing, are always
the people the government fraks over the hardest.
After you clowns had control of the White House and Congress, why didn't
you fix it?

Is that what your only accomplishment - a tax cut for the rich - was
supposed to do?
--
Memoriam for the Turd Reich: "Truth isn't truth!" (Yes, it is.)*
"What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."
(Yes, it is.)*
"Our press secretary gave alternative facts" (No, he lied.)*
"I will never lie to you, you have my word on that" (Yes, you did... a
lot.)*

* Under New Management -January 20, 2021
anim8rfsk
2021-05-04 23:31:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by A Friend
Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on
social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still
pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay
taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are
called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine
on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you
have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us
taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package
cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
What he said. We *have* to start taking out the money when my wife
turns 70-1/2 next year, and at that point it will be taxable. We've
been doing just fine on SS, since we paid off the mortgage several
years ago, and our needs are few. They're *making* us do this for no
good reason.
We were careful and thrifty, we still are, and now we're going to be
made to pay for it.
My parents were very careful and conservative with where they put their
wealth. It was in stuff like savings bonds with incredibly low interest
that they thought were secure. Under Obama they actually devalued their
mature savings bonds. Crap like that cost them about half what my dad had
managed to save in his life.


“The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it’s still on my list.”
Hass
2021-05-05 00:33:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on
social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still
pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay
taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are
called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine
on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you
have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us
taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package
cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
What he said. We *have* to start taking out the money when my wife
turns 70-1/2 next year, and at that point it will be taxable. We've
been doing just fine on SS, since we paid off the mortgage several
years ago, and our needs are few. They're *making* us do this for no
good reason.
We were careful and thrifty, we still are, and now we're going to be
made to pay for it.
My parents were very careful and conservative with where they put their
wealth. It was in stuff like savings bonds with incredibly low interest
that they thought were secure. Under Obama they actually devalued their
mature savings bonds. Crap like that cost them about half what my dad had
managed to save in his life.
Your father made terrible financial decisions.
suzeeq
2021-05-05 01:06:22 UTC
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Post by anim8rfsk
Post by A Friend
Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on
social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still
pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay
taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are
called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine
on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you
have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us
taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package
cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
What he said. We *have* to start taking out the money when my wife
turns 70-1/2 next year, and at that point it will be taxable. We've
been doing just fine on SS, since we paid off the mortgage several
years ago, and our needs are few. They're *making* us do this for no
good reason.
We were careful and thrifty, we still are, and now we're going to be
made to pay for it.
My parents were very careful and conservative with where they put their
wealth. It was in stuff like savings bonds with incredibly low interest
that they thought were secure. Under Obama they actually devalued their
mature savings bonds. Crap like that cost them about half what my dad had
managed to save in his life.
My parent put them in stocks, and investments like Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.
shawn
2021-05-05 02:37:58 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by A Friend
Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on
social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still
pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay
taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are
called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine
on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you
have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us
taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package
cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
What he said. We *have* to start taking out the money when my wife
turns 70-1/2 next year, and at that point it will be taxable. We've
been doing just fine on SS, since we paid off the mortgage several
years ago, and our needs are few. They're *making* us do this for no
good reason.
We were careful and thrifty, we still are, and now we're going to be
made to pay for it.
My parents were very careful and conservative with where they put their
wealth. It was in stuff like savings bonds with incredibly low interest
that they thought were secure. Under Obama they actually devalued their
mature savings bonds. Crap like that cost them about half what my dad had
managed to save in his life.
My parent put them in stocks, and investments like Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.
Stocks have been the way to go over the past decade or so as they've
mostly gone up. Some have gone up quite a bit to my surprise like
Netflix. I knew it was doing well but I never saw the stock going up
so much in value. Though the biggest increases have been in those damn
crypto currencies as some have gone up over 600x their initial value.
For something that has no physical backing and for the longest time no
support from the banking system or other commercial interests, it
amazes me how well they've all done. Though clearly some like
Ethereum/Bitcoin and now Dogecoin have been the real winners.
number6
2021-05-05 20:24:53 UTC
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Post by shawn
Post by suzeeq
Post by anim8rfsk
Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me
to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on
social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still
pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay
taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are
called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine
on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you
have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us
taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package
cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
What he said. We *have* to start taking out the money when my wife
turns 70-1/2 next year, and at that point it will be taxable. We've
been doing just fine on SS, since we paid off the mortgage several
years ago, and our needs are few. They're *making* us do this for no
good reason.
We were careful and thrifty, we still are, and now we're going to be
made to pay for it.
My parents were very careful and conservative with where they put their
wealth. It was in stuff like savings bonds with incredibly low interest
that they thought were secure. Under Obama they actually devalued their
mature savings bonds. Crap like that cost them about half what my dad had
managed to save in his life.
My parent put them in stocks, and investments like Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac.
Stocks have been the way to go over the past decade or so as they've
mostly gone up. Some have gone up quite a bit to my surprise like
Netflix. I knew it was doing well but I never saw the stock going up
so much in value. Though the biggest increases have been in those damn
crypto currencies as some have gone up over 600x their initial value.
For something that has no physical backing and for the longest time no
support from the banking system or other commercial interests, it
amazes me how well they've all done. Though clearly some like
Ethereum/Bitcoin and now Dogecoin have been the real winners.
Most of the value of my portfolio is in what I call the "A" stocks ...
Amazon.Alphabet.Apple.AliBaba.Amd.Adobe -
The rest is the 100 shares of Berkshire Hathaway that is held in an overseas account .. ( :-) - I wish)
Adam H. Kerman
2021-05-15 13:50:34 UTC
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Post by number6
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what
are called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are
living fine on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the
government says ... you have to take out these many dollars whether
you want to or not and pay us taxes and even make some of you SS
taxable ... Trump's covid relief package cancelled that requirement
for a year ... but it's back now ...
What he said. We *have* to start taking out the money when my wife
turns 70-1/2 next year, and at that point it will be taxable. We've
been doing just fine on SS, since we paid off the mortgage several
years ago, and our needs are few. They're *making* us do this for no
good reason.
We were careful and thrifty, we still are, and now we're going to be
made to pay for it.
The traditional IRA was intended to replace the old company pension
plan to provide retirement income in a lower tax bracket than when you
were at peak earning level.
Oh, goody. Micky is now making her pronouncements in ignorance on tax
law and penions.

IRAs were absolutely NOT intended to replace the company pension, which
was typically a defined benefit plan. The IRA was offered in workplaces
in which a defined benefit plan was impractical to set up or because the
employer didn't want the liability. With a defined contribution plan, as
long as the contributions are actually made, the employer has no long
term liability to fund the benefits. The liability is exclusively on the
plan and asset growth isn't guaranteed.

If a worker was a long-time participant in a defined benefit plan which
went bust, there's simply no time left for him to save for retirement
with a defined contribution plan as he's getting toward the end of his
working career.

Micky doesn't know what she's talking about here.
It wasn't intended to be a government subsidized inter-generational
wealth transfer.
This is a true statement, especially since zero taxpayer monies are
involved, so thanks for stating the obvious.
If leaving an untouched
inheritance was the aim, or you expected to be in a higher tax bracket
rather than a lower one as you got older, then suzeeq's plan of doing a
Roth IRA would be the way to go (but then you'd have to give up the
original tax deduction when you were likely in a higher bracket).
Despite "IRA" in its name, Roth IRA is just a savings account. There is
no deferred compensation involved.
danny burstein
2021-05-15 14:20:33 UTC
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In <s7ojja$cbs$***@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" <***@chinet.com> writes:

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Post by Adam H. Kerman
If a worker was a long-time participant in a defined benefit plan which
went bust, there's simply no time left for him to save for retirement
with a defined contribution plan as he's getting toward the end of his
working career.
cough cough

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pension_Benefit_Guaranty_Corporation

(yeah, it's only a partial guarantee, but still...)
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Adam H. Kerman
2021-05-15 15:28:39 UTC
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Post by danny burstein
[snip]
Post by Adam H. Kerman
If a worker was a long-time participant in a defined benefit plan which
went bust, there's simply no time left for him to save for retirement
with a defined contribution plan as he's getting toward the end of his
working career.
cough cough
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pension_Benefit_Guaranty_Corporation
(yeah, it's only a partial guarantee, but still...)
I am aware of the PBGC and that it hardly has enough money to make up
for decades of underfunding a defined benefit pension plan.

The point I'm making is that Micky was wrong that an IRA was intended to
replace the defined benefit plan. It was offered as an option to employers
and their workers who weren't offering or it wasn't practical to offer a
defined benefit plan. There were types of defined contribution plans
that were offered to the self-employed, who could contribute to an IRA.
401(k) (and previously, 403(b)) were offered through employers.

To contribute enough to a defined contribution plan to have monies to
retire on, one had to start relatively early in a working career and not
after one no longer had a defined benefit plan to participate in toward
the end of one's career.
suzeeq
2021-05-04 22:32:05 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
That's why I went with a Roth IRA - you don't get as much in deductions
when you pay into it, but there's no restrictions on taking out of it. I
don't take anything out of mine, hopefully it'll still be there when I
die and my sons inherit my portfolio.
number6
2021-05-04 22:36:42 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
That's why I went with a Roth IRA - you don't get as much in deductions
when you pay into it, but there's no restrictions on taking out of it. I
don't take anything out of mine, hopefully it'll still be there when I
die and my sons inherit my portfolio.
hehe ... we had 5 kids and when we are planning trips they tell us go first class ... and one said he'd be very angry if we left them any money and we'd better spend it all ...
anim8rfsk
2021-05-04 23:31:45 UTC
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Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s!
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force
me to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ...
retired on social security and the government works out a way to make
sure I still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not
having them pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what
are called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are
living fine on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the
government says ... you have to take out these many dollars whether you
want to or not and pay us taxes and even make some of you SS taxable
... Trump's covid relief package cancelled that requirement for a year
... but it's back now ...
That's why I went with a Roth IRA - you don't get as much in deductions
when you pay into it, but there's no restrictions on taking out of it. I
don't take anything out of mine, hopefully it'll still be there when I
die and my sons inherit my portfolio.
hehe ... we had 5 kids and when we are planning trips they tell us go
first class ... and one said he'd be very angry if we left them any money
and we'd better spend it all ...
Cool
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suzeeq
2021-05-05 01:04:56 UTC
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Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by suzeeq
Post by number6
Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I don't earn a penny ... so I don't pay taxes ... although they force me to take a RMD from my IRA to make me pay taxes ... Strange ... retired on social security and the government works out a way to make sure I still pay taxes ... How about helping senior citizens by not having them pay taxes on the RMD we are forced to take ...
I'm on social security, get a little income from the dividends and
interest in my IRA and mutual funds and don't pay any tax. The SS isn't
taxed below a certain level and with the standard deduction, that leaves
me with 0 taxable income.
I have a substantial IRA and at age 70 1/2 I had to start taking what are called RMDs or required minimum distributions even though we are living fine on our SS ... and had been paying no taxes ... the government says ... you have to take out these many dollars whether you want to or not and pay us taxes and even make some of you SS taxable ... Trump's covid relief package cancelled that requirement for a year ... but it's back now ...
That's why I went with a Roth IRA - you don't get as much in deductions
when you pay into it, but there's no restrictions on taking out of it. I
don't take anything out of mine, hopefully it'll still be there when I
die and my sons inherit my portfolio.
hehe ... we had 5 kids and when we are planning trips they tell us go first class ... and one said he'd be very angry if we left them any money and we'd better spend it all ...
I got most of my stash as inheritance from my parents. I think it's
almost doubled in the 13 years since.
anim8rfsk
2021-05-04 14:00:05 UTC
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Post by BTR1701
BIDEN: "Anybody making less than $400,000 a year will not pay a single
penny in taxes."
https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1389279329335529476?s=21
Holy shit. So now my federal tax bill is $0.00 and I only have to pay
California income tax?
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
I probably did.
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Ed Stasiak
2021-05-05 00:01:54 UTC
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BTR1701
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
lol

This one was even funnier;

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1389350608117841920

“You’re a Mexican racist and will always be a Mexican!”

And she is supposedly a teacher (or so she claims)…
BTR1701
2021-05-05 03:55:38 UTC
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Post by Ed Stasiak
BTR1701
Why didn't he say this during the campaign? I'd have voted for him twice!
lol
This one was even funnier;
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1389350608117841920
“You’re a Mexican racist and will always be a Mexican!”
And she is supposedly a teacher (or so she claims)…
Yes, we did a whole separate thread on that monstrosity: "One of Our Lovel
Woke California Teachers"
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