[plasmashell] [Bug 390177] New: Upgrade to 5.12 activated window decoration menu button, making in-app menu bars disappear

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

Bug ID: 390177
Summary: Upgrade to 5.12 activated window decoration menu
button, making in-app menu bars disappear
Product: plasmashell
Version: 5.12.0
Platform: Other
OS: Linux
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: NOR
Component: general
Assignee: ***@davidedmundson.co.uk
Reporter: ***@zoho.com
CC: plasma-***@kde.org
Target Milestone: 1.0

Just what the title says. I have now seen three unique reports of this issue,
all on different distros:

1. I experienced it myself (Kubuntu 17.10); see
https://phabricator.kde.org/T7905

2. https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/7vpwb5/plasma_512_bug_thread/dtv3t4y/
(KD Neon)

3.
https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/7wgdj7/all_the_menus_disappeared_after_the_512_update/
(Arch)

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #1 from Nate Graham <***@zoho.com> ---
Workaround: remove the Application Menu window decoration item.

[b***@kde.org]

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--- Comment #2 from ***@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #1)

Post by Nate Graham
Workaround: remove the Application Menu window decoration item.

You mean the Application Menu button? Because removing it does not fix this for
me. Or maybe you need a logout?

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #3 from Nate Graham <***@zoho.com> ---
Yes, the Application Menu button. Once you remove it from your Window
Decorations, affected apps will need to be restarted, or you can reboot the
machine.

[b***@kde.org]

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--- Comment #4 from ***@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #3)

Post by Nate Graham
Yes, the Application Menu button. Once you remove it from your Window
Decorations, affected apps will need to be restarted, or you can reboot the
machine.

Unfortunately they do not for me, even after a reboot. Arch, 5.12.

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #5 from Nate Graham <***@zoho.com> ---
OK, then you have a different issue, or there's some complicating factor at
play. Do you use KWin, or another window manager? Do your apps normally have
titlebars?

[b***@kde.org]

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--- Comment #6 from ***@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Nate Graham from comment #5)

Post by Nate Graham
OK, then you have a different issue, or there's some complicating factor at
play. Do you use KWin, or another window manager? Do your apps normally have
titlebars?

I do use KWin. I usually do not have titlebars: I have a window-specific
override (in Window decorations) to disable them. However of course I
re-enabled titlebars for this testing, and for now the only way I can have the
menus is to have the titlebars + the burger menu.

[David Edmundson]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #7 from David Edmundson <***@davidedmundson.co.uk> ---
Pre 5.12 appmenu was managed by 2 config keys on separate places, it was
possible to be in a corrupt state where a user had explicitly enabled in window
deco menus, but chose not to export menus.

In 5.12 it was consolidated into 1.

Any user with this had previously added the application menu to kwin at some
point, and now we've "fixed" it so it works.

Not really a bug, but maybe I can craft a kconf update script to remove the
button if it wasn't exported.

[b***@kde.org]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #8 from ***@gmail.com ---
(In reply to David Edmundson from comment #7)

Post by David Edmundson
Pre 5.12 appmenu was managed by 2 config keys on separate places, it was
possible to be in a corrupt state where a user had explicitly enabled in
window deco menus, but chose not to export menus.
In 5.12 it was consolidated into 1.
Any user with this had previously added the application menu to kwin at some
point, and now we've "fixed" it so it works.
Not really a bug, but maybe I can craft a kconf update script to remove the
button if it wasn't exported.

So basically this is a misconfigured config flag somewhere that has been
deprecated by the update, but before it sat there doing nothing and now it
breaks menus? Can you tell me where this could be, what to look for, so that I
can confirm (and fix)?

[b***@kde.org]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #9 from ***@gmail.com ---
Removing `~/.config/katerc` in `~/.config/katerc` fixed it... for those
programs, at least.

[David Edmundson]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

Can you tell me where this could be, what to look for, so that I can confirm (and fix)

System settings -> application style -> window decorations -> buttons

If you don't want menus in the window titles, don't have the application menu
icon in your list of buttons.

Similar situation can happen with the global menu applet being placed on the
desktop.

[b***@kde.org]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #11 from ***@gmail.com ---
(In reply to David Edmundson from comment #10)

Post by David Edmundson

Can you tell me where this could be, what to look for, so that I can confirm (and fix)

System settings -> application style -> window decorations -> buttons
If you don't want menus in the window titles, don't have the application
menu icon in your list of buttons.
Similar situation can happen with the global menu applet being placed on the
desktop.

Unfortunately I do not have the menus even if I remove the burger menu from the
title bar. I had to manually modify katerc and okularrc to get menus back, as
per previous post.

[Brecht Vercruyce]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

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--- Comment #12 from Brecht Vercruyce <***@vercruyce.eu> ---
I have the same issue. I never used the global menu feature before. After the
update to 5.12 menu bars disappeared in several applications. It took me quite
a while to figure out what happened and eventually I ended up here.

Setting Show Menu Bar=true in for example ~/.config/katerc did not bring back
the menu bar. So far, I have found no way to bring the menu bar back, so I am
forced to use the "application menu" button on the title bar to have at least
some way of accessing the menu. I created a new account and with these clean
settings everything works.

[b***@kde.org]

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***@laposte.net changed:

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--- Comment #13 from ***@laposte.net ---
Same Here :(
Some users have no more menu bar after upgrading to 5.12.
Please, provide us a workaround (ie: editing the setting in the right config
file), I don't want delete my kde profile !

[David Edmundson]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #14 from David Edmundson <***@davidedmundson.co.uk> ---
Please include the output of:

qdbus org.kde.kappmenuview

[Brecht Vercruyce]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #15 from Brecht Vercruyce <***@vercruyce.eu> ---
$ qdbus org.kde.kappmenuview
/
/DataEngine
/DataEngine/applicationjobs
/DataEngine/applicationjobs/JobWatcher
/FileUndoManager
/MainApplication
/PlasmaShell
/Unity
/klipper
/org
/org/freedesktop
/org/freedesktop/Notifications
/org/kde
/org/kde/osdService
/org/kde/plasmashell

[David Edmundson]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #16 from David Edmundson <***@davidedmundson.co.uk> ---
So you have a global menu plasmoid somewhere

Next request: ~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc
also can I have a screenshot of your desktop please

[Brecht Vercruyce]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #17 from Brecht Vercruyce <***@vercruyce.eu> ---
The contents of plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc:
https://gist.github.com/vercruyce/beefbe21464ae030512934f0a67f06c4
Screenshot of desktop: Loading Image...

[David Edmundson]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #18 from David Edmundson <***@davidedmundson.co.uk> ---
According to the config there are 3 panels

One (containment 93) has the appmenu in it - and we're clearly loading it as
it's registered the DBus iface.

Yet I can't see it in the screenshot.


Can I have your ~/.config/plasmashellrc too please

[Brecht Vercruyce]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #19 from Brecht Vercruyce <***@vercruyce.eu> ---
Well, I'm an idiot. There is indeed another panel that is not on the
screenshot. I have a second monitor attached which was not included in the
screenshot. And there was indeed a panel there, and that panel did indeed
contain a global menu widget. I completely mistook it for that button you click
to configure the panel (when the widgets are not locked). I'm sorry to have
troubled your with this, the feature does indeed work as intended, it was a
complete oversight by me.

In any case, thank you very much for your effort and time in helping me fix
this.

[David Edmundson]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #20 from David Edmundson <***@davidedmundson.co.uk> ---
no problem.

***@laposte.net

can you post the same information and we'll go through it with you too.

[b***@kde.org]

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--- Comment #21 from ***@laposte.net ---
I have been to see the user :
the issue was between the chair and the keyboard.
All is ok, sorry for the inconvenience.
many thanks for your work.

[b***@kde.org]

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[David Edmundson]

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--- Comment #22 from David Edmundson <***@davidedmundson.co.uk> ---
cool, thanks all for reporting back.

[Евгений]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

Евгений <***@yandex.ru> changed:

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Version|5.12.0 |5.12.2
Status|RESOLVED |VERIFIED
Resolution|INVALID |WONTFIX

--- Comment #23 from Евгений <***@yandex.ru> ---
Hi,
same issue. Still no menu in Kate, Okteta, Okular etc. In attached screenshots
and configs you can see, that nowhere global menu or decoration menu button is
active.

plasmashell 5.12.2

screenshots:
https://ibb.co/gaSgxc
https://ibb.co/k3BVqx
https://ibb.co/hiMkOH

plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc:
plasmashellrc:
https://pastebin.com/znH3BAZx
https://pastebin.com/L6ZsVCLZ

$ qdbus org.kde.kappmenuview

/
/0
/ColorCorrect
/ColorPicker
/Compositor
/Effects
/KWin
/Screenshot
/Scripting

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

--- Comment #24 from Nate Graham <***@kde.org> ---
Did you mean to mark this bug VERIFIED WONTFIX, or re-open it?

[Евгений]

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Евгений <***@yandex.ru> changed:

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--- Comment #25 from Евгений <***@yandex.ru> ---
Re-open it, please. It's not fixed.

[Nero]

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[Christoph Feck]

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--- Comment #26 from Christoph Feck <***@kde.org> ---
Please read the previous comments and provide the information needed to
investigate why it does not work on your system.

[Christoph Feck]

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--- Comment #27 from Christoph Feck <***@kde.org> ---
Sorry, did not see comment #23.

David, does comment #23 help to pinpoint the issue for this user?

[Francesco Riosa]

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--- Comment #28 from Francesco Riosa <vivo75+***@gmail.com> ---
Even after disabling the "Application Menu button" I had the menu explicitly
disabled in these apps:

$ cd ~/.config
$ grep -sl MenuBar=Disabled *
arkrc
dolphinrc
gwenviewrc
katerc
kmail2rc
komparerc
krdcrc
kritarc
kwriterc
okularrc
systemsettingsrc

If memory serves me well kate menu - was there after removing the button - but
NOT after rebooting the PC - most probably there was a kde update in the
meantime (5.12.3 => 5.12.4)

[Francesco Riosa]

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--- Comment #29 from Francesco Riosa <vivo75+***@gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 111784
--> https://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=111784&action=edit
~/.config/plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc

This is my "plasma-org.kde.plasma.desktop-appletsrc" the menu button is
currently disabled (it hide menus in libreoffice)
As described in previous comment menus were disabled after disabling the button
, and rebooting the PC

[Francesco Riosa]

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--- Comment #30 from Francesco Riosa <vivo75+***@gmail.com> ---
example of the content of the files after manually changing MenuBar=Disabled to
MenuBar=Enabled (and thus solving the problem)

$ grep MenuBar -B3 -A9 okularrc

[MainWindow]
Height 1440=889
MenuBar=Enabled
State=AAAA/wAAAAD9AAAAAAAABp4AAANTAAAABAAAAAQAAAAIAAAACPwAAAABAAAAAgAAAAEAAAAWAG0AYQBpAG4AVABvAG8AbABCAGEAcgEAAAAA/////wAAAAAAAAAA
ToolBarsMovable=Disabled
Width 2560=1694

[Print Preview]
Height 1440=500
Width 2560=600

[Recent Files]

[Евгений]

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--- Comment #31 from Евгений <***@yandex.ru> ---
I executed find ./ -type f -exec sed -i 's/MenuBar=Disabled/MenuBar=Enabled/g'
{} \; in .config folder, then was not changed anything: still there is not
menubar in applications.

[Tom Kijas]

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--- Comment #32 from Tom Kijas <***@gmail.com> ---
Same here, I will probably have to remove all kde configs and start from the
scratch. Shame!

[David Edmundson]

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--- Comment #33 from David Edmundson <***@davidedmundson.co.uk> ---
@Tom then attach the two files requested earlier.

[Michal]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

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--- Comment #34 from Michal <***@unige.ch> ---
Have the still same problem standard installation on Linux Mint 18.3 KDE
Edition, with KDE Plasma 5.8.9 and KDE Frameworks 5.36.0 running on a ThinkPad
X1 Carbon.

Affected programs (as far I noticed): Okular, Amarok, FreeCAD

The menu bar is visible in the top of the window when the program is running,
the buttons light up blue when the cursor is approached, but the pulldown menus
do not appear. Problem appeared after working several weeks with the system.

Tried of the obvious solutions described in this post, but none worked. In
particular, the "application menu" button workaround does not work on my distro
either.

[Nero]

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[Nate Graham]

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Nate Graham <***@kde.org> changed:

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--- Comment #35 from Nate Graham <***@kde.org> ---
I don't think that's the same bug. Plasma 5.8.9 is old and predates the changes
in 5.12 that caused this bug for myself and others.

[Michal]

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--- Comment #36 from Michal <***@unige.ch> ---
Finally found the solution, which was posted on one of the linux mint forums -
unfortunately I cannot locate the post again.

System Settings -> Application Style -> Widget Style -> Applications
Widget Style: Choose GTK+ instead of Breeze.
Click “Apply”.

This solved the problem for me, at least for the time being. All other widget
styles seem to work fine too, except “Breeze”.

No idea what prompts the issue. Have seen this problem appearing on two
different freshly installed machines. Seems to me quite a serious bug, as it
completely cripples the affected programs.

[Nate Graham]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390177

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--- Comment #37 from Nate Graham <***@kde.org> ---
(In reply to Michal from comment #36)

Post by Michal
No idea what prompts the issue. Have seen this problem appearing on two
different freshly installed machines. Seems to me quite a serious bug, as it
completely cripples the affected programs.

Seems like we should re-open the bug then, and not mark it as RESOLVED FIXED.
:)

[David Edmundson]

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Have the still same problem with KDE Plasma 5.8.9

Then it's definitely not the problem in the title.

Please open a new bug. Mixing them gets very confusing.