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Keema's Nan
2019-11-08 16:28:14 UTC
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Official emails and diplomatic telegrams marked as sensitive reveal for the
first time how the British government scrambled to understand a series of
alleged “sonic attacks” on US diplomats who became ill in mysterious
circumstances while on duty in Cuba.

The US government ordered all non-essential staff at its embassy in Havana to
return home after dozens of diplomats and family members developed headaches,
dizziness and problems with balance, concentration and sleeping in a wave of
illness that struck between 2016 and 2018.

Many reported falling ill in their homes or hotels after hearing penetrating
sounds, described variously as grinding, buffeting or cicada-like chirps. The
case reports fuelled speculation that the diplomats had been targeted with an
acoustic weapon or some other novel device. No evidence of any such attack
has been found.

The events prompted a dramatic breakdown in relations between the US and Cuba
less than two years after Barack Obama had sought to reestablish normal
diplomatic ties between the nations.

Documents released to the Guardian under the Freedom of Information Act shed
light on how the British embassy in Havana and senior Foreign Office staff in
London desperately sought to make sense of the unfolding events.

Though most are heavily redacted on grounds of national security and
international relations, they show how staff pored over press reports,
official statements and other communications to understand a situation that
one overnight update from August 2017 said was being presented by the media
as “a bizarre cold war-style confrontation”.

The update, copied to Anthony Stokes, the British ambassador to Cuba, noted
that the press “broadly buy the veracity” of a Cuban statement that
declared it had no involvement in the affair, and were now asking: “If it
wasn’t the Cubans who did it, who did?”

On the same day the update was sent, a brief for Alan Duncan, then minister
of state for Europe and the Americas
(https://www.theguardian.com/world/americas), described the continued
“fallout from the apparent sonic attacks”. In response to the then US
secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, declaring he might close the embassy in
Havana, Cuba’s foreign minister, Bruno Rodriguez, called Tillerson directly
to state he had no knowledge of the source and express his determination to
protect diplomats.

Two months later a diplomatic telegram sent from Havana to London, marked as
sensitive, described the expulsion of nearly all Cuban diplomats from the US
and the withdrawal of roughly two-thirds of US diplomats from Havana.

“Both the US and the Cuban embassies will now be neutered, just two years
after reopening,” the telegram pointed out. The same telegram described
Rodriguez as “combative in tone and delivery” during a press conference
held within hours of the US announcement to expel the Cuban diplomats, and
said he stopped “just short of accusing the US of making it all up”.

Further correspondence between British officials in London and Cuba suggests
they had no fresh insight into what happened to the diplomats. Over a number
of months they shared media reports that the strange sounds were caused by
crickets, and that the wave of illness might be psychosomatic and triggered
by the stressful conditions under which the diplomats operated.

The FCO released the emails and telegrams, spanning from June 2016 to June
2018, after the Information Commissioner’s Office said the department may
be held in contempt of court if it failed to comply with the Guardian’s
request.

Some of the documents were completely blacked out.

More than two years after the diplomats fell ill, doctors are still no
clearer about what happened. Two US medical studies that assessed some of
thse affected found they had concussion-like symptoms
(https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/14/cuban-acoustic-attack-report-
on-us-diplomats-flawed-say-neurologists)and possible brain abnormalities
(https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/23/brain-scans-of-us-embassy-
staff-to-cuba-show-abnormalities), but independent medical specialists have
criticised both studies. In arecent report
(https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/19007096v1)that has not yet been
peer-reviewed, Canadian scientists suggest excessive fumigation with
pesticides to keep mosquitoes under control may be to blame.

Mitchell Valdés-Sosa, the director of the Cuban Centre for Neurosciences,
who was part of a Cuban investigation into the incidents, said that without
more data it was difficult to draw any firm conclusions.

“But I am very sure what did not happen,” he said. “There is absolutely
no evidence for a mysterious weapon causing a new syndrome characterised by
brain damage and much less inner ear damage.

“Some diplomats may be ill due to natural causes, and we have not yet
tested the idea of insecticides causing intoxication in some cases, but the
results of what has been published tells us that there is no homogenous set
of symptoms or lab findings.

“And whatever has been found overlaps very much with several frequent
medical conditions. The only common factor in most cases is a government
telling employees they were attacked, and a media barrage that has largely
reinforced this idea.”
Mike Smith
2019-11-10 02:21:40 UTC
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Post by Keema's Nan
Official emails and diplomatic telegrams marked as sensitive reveal for the
first time how the British government scrambled to understand a series of
alleged “sonic attacks” on US diplomats who became ill in mysterious
circumstances while on duty in Cuba.
The US government ordered all non-essential staff at its embassy in Havana to
return home after dozens of diplomats and family members developed headaches,
dizziness and problems with balance, concentration and sleeping in a wave of
illness that struck between 2016 and 2018.
Many reported falling ill in their homes or hotels after hearing penetrating
sounds, described variously as grinding, buffeting or cicada-like chirps. The
case reports fuelled speculation that the diplomats had been targeted with an
acoustic weapon or some other novel device. No evidence of any such attack
has been found.
The events prompted a dramatic breakdown in relations between the US and Cuba
less than two years after Barack Obama had sought to reestablish normal
diplomatic ties between the nations.
Documents released to the Guardian under the Freedom of Information Act shed
light on how the British embassy in Havana and senior Foreign Office staff in
London desperately sought to make sense of the unfolding events.
Though most are heavily redacted on grounds of national security and
international relations, they show how staff pored over press reports,
official statements and other communications to understand a situation that
one overnight update from August 2017 said was being presented by the media
as “a bizarre cold war-style confrontation”.
The update, copied to Anthony Stokes, the British ambassador to Cuba, noted
that the press “broadly buy the veracity” of a Cuban statement that
declared it had no involvement in the affair, and were now asking: “If it
wasn’t the Cubans who did it, who did?”
On the same day the update was sent, a brief for Alan Duncan, then minister
of state for Europe and the Americas
(https://www.theguardian.com/world/americas), described the continued
“fallout from the apparent sonic attacks”. In response to the then US
secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, declaring he might close the embassy in
Havana, Cuba’s foreign minister, Bruno Rodriguez, called Tillerson directly
to state he had no knowledge of the source and express his determination to
protect diplomats.
Two months later a diplomatic telegram sent from Havana to London, marked as
sensitive, described the expulsion of nearly all Cuban diplomats from the US
and the withdrawal of roughly two-thirds of US diplomats from Havana.
“Both the US and the Cuban embassies will now be neutered, just two years
after reopening,” the telegram pointed out. The same telegram described
Rodriguez as “combative in tone and delivery” during a press conference
held within hours of the US announcement to expel the Cuban diplomats, and
said he stopped “just short of accusing the US of making it all up”.
Further correspondence between British officials in London and Cuba suggests
they had no fresh insight into what happened to the diplomats. Over a number
of months they shared media reports that the strange sounds were caused by
crickets, and that the wave of illness might be psychosomatic and triggered
by the stressful conditions under which the diplomats operated.
The FCO released the emails and telegrams, spanning from June 2016 to June
2018, after the Information Commissioner’s Office said the department may
be held in contempt of court if it failed to comply with the Guardian’s
request.
Some of the documents were completely blacked out.
More than two years after the diplomats fell ill, doctors are still no
clearer about what happened. Two US medical studies that assessed some of
thse affected found they had concussion-like symptoms
(https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/14/cuban-acoustic-attack-report-
on-us-diplomats-flawed-say-neurologists)and possible brain abnormalities
(https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/23/brain-scans-of-us-embassy-
staff-to-cuba-show-abnormalities), but independent medical specialists have
criticised both studies. In arecent report
(https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/19007096v1)that has not yet been
peer-reviewed, Canadian scientists suggest excessive fumigation with
pesticides to keep mosquitoes under control may be to blame.
Mitchell Valdés-Sosa, the director of the Cuban Centre for Neurosciences,
who was part of a Cuban investigation into the incidents, said that without
more data it was difficult to draw any firm conclusions.
“But I am very sure what did not happen,” he said. “There is absolutely
no evidence for a mysterious weapon causing a new syndrome characterised by
brain damage and much less inner ear damage.
“Some diplomats may be ill due to natural causes, and we have not yet
tested the idea of insecticides causing intoxication in some cases, but the
results of what has been published tells us that there is no homogenous set
of symptoms or lab findings.
“And whatever has been found overlaps very much with several frequent
medical conditions. The only common factor in most cases is a government
telling employees they were attacked, and a media barrage that has largely
reinforced this idea.”
The insecticide is a good bet - There once was a thing called Vapona, a yellow strip you hung up to kill files. It was quietly taken off the market after people started dying in hospital due to the effects of exposure to what is in essence nerve gas. If fly killer was to blame the US Gov would be faced with massive claims for damages, so it would be cheaper to blame the 'enemy' and if there isn't one make one up.

Cheers

Mike
Keema's Nan
2019-11-10 09:01:21 UTC
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Post by Mike Smith
Post by Keema's Nan
Official emails and diplomatic telegrams marked as sensitive reveal for the
first time how the British government scrambled to understand a series of
alleged “sonic attacks” on US diplomats who became ill in mysterious
circumstances while on duty in Cuba.
The US government ordered all non-essential staff at its embassy in Havana to
return home after dozens of diplomats and family members developed headaches,
dizziness and problems with balance, concentration and sleeping in a wave of
illness that struck between 2016 and 2018.
Many reported falling ill in their homes or hotels after hearing penetrating
sounds, described variously as grinding, buffeting or cicada-like chirps. The
case reports fuelled speculation that the diplomats had been targeted with an
acoustic weapon or some other novel device. No evidence of any such attack
has been found.
The events prompted a dramatic breakdown in relations between the US and Cuba
less than two years after Barack Obama had sought to reestablish normal
diplomatic ties between the nations.
Documents released to the Guardian under the Freedom of Information Act shed
light on how the British embassy in Havana and senior Foreign Office staff in
London desperately sought to make sense of the unfolding events.
Though most are heavily redacted on grounds of national security and
international relations, they show how staff pored over press reports,
official statements and other communications to understand a situation that
one overnight update from August 2017 said was being presented by the media
as “a bizarre cold war-style confrontation”.
The update, copied to Anthony Stokes, the British ambassador to Cuba, noted
that the press “broadly buy the veracity” of a Cuban statement that
declared it had no involvement in the affair, and were now asking: “If it
wasn’t the Cubans who did it, who did?”
On the same day the update was sent, a brief for Alan Duncan, then minister
of state for Europe and the Americas
(https://www.theguardian.com/world/americas), described the continued
“fallout from the apparent sonic attacks”. In response to the then US
secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, declaring he might close the embassy in
Havana, Cuba’s foreign minister, Bruno Rodriguez, called Tillerson directly
to state he had no knowledge of the source and express his determination to
protect diplomats.
Two months later a diplomatic telegram sent from Havana to London, marked as
sensitive, described the expulsion of nearly all Cuban diplomats from the US
and the withdrawal of roughly two-thirds of US diplomats from Havana.
“Both the US and the Cuban embassies will now be neutered, just two years
after reopening,” the telegram pointed out. The same telegram described
Rodriguez as “combative in tone and delivery” during a press conference
held within hours of the US announcement to expel the Cuban diplomats, and
said he stopped “just short of accusing the US of making it all up”.
Further correspondence between British officials in London and Cuba suggests
they had no fresh insight into what happened to the diplomats. Over a number
of months they shared media reports that the strange sounds were caused by
crickets, and that the wave of illness might be psychosomatic and triggered
by the stressful conditions under which the diplomats operated.
The FCO released the emails and telegrams, spanning from June 2016 to June
2018, after the Information Commissioner’s Office said the department may
be held in contempt of court if it failed to comply with the Guardian’s
request.
Some of the documents were completely blacked out.
More than two years after the diplomats fell ill, doctors are still no
clearer about what happened. Two US medical studies that assessed some of
thse affected found they had concussion-like symptoms
(https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/14/cuban-acoustic-attack-report-
on-us-diplomats-flawed-say-neurologists)and possible brain abnormalities
(https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/23/brain-scans-of-us-embassy-
staff-to-cuba-show-abnormalities), but independent medical specialists have
criticised both studies. In arecent report
(https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/19007096v1)that has not yet been
peer-reviewed, Canadian scientists suggest excessive fumigation with
pesticides to keep mosquitoes under control may be to blame.
Mitchell Valdés-Sosa, the director of the Cuban Centre for Neurosciences,
who was part of a Cuban investigation into the incidents, said that without
more data it was difficult to draw any firm conclusions.
“But I am very sure what did not happen,” he said. “There is absolutely
no evidence for a mysterious weapon causing a new syndrome characterised by
brain damage and much less inner ear damage.
“Some diplomats may be ill due to natural causes, and we have not yet
tested the idea of insecticides causing intoxication in some cases, but the
results of what has been published tells us that there is no homogenous set
of symptoms or lab findings.
“And whatever has been found overlaps very much with several frequent
medical conditions. The only common factor in most cases is a government
telling employees they were attacked, and a media barrage that has largely
reinforced this idea.”
The insecticide is a good bet - There once was a thing called Vapona, a
yellow strip you hung up to kill files. It was quietly taken off the market
after people started dying in hospital due to the effects of exposure to what
is in essence nerve gas. If fly killer was to blame the US Gov would be faced
with massive claims for damages, so it would be cheaper to blame the 'enemy'
and if there isn't one make one up.
Cheers
Mike
I think you could be right. Wasn’t there a school of thought with blamed
some form of organophosphate spray for mad cow disease, but the chemical
companies could not take the financial hit if the truth were known; so they
conjured up some fancy sounding scientific disease in order to divert the
blame onto animal feeding habits.
Keema's Nan
2019-12-19 12:07:46 UTC
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Another strange incident.....

A decorated Metropolitan police
(https://www.theguardian.com/uk/metropolitan-police) superintendent convicted
of possessing a child abuse video has formally asked the court of appeal to
strike down her conviction.

Lawyers for Robyn Williams
(https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/26/police-officer-robyn-
williams-sentenced-unpaid-work-possessing-child-abuse-video), 54, this week
lodged the appeal against the guilty verdict reached by a jury after a
controversial investigation and prosecution, that now sees her treated like a
child sex offender.

Williams was convicted in November after her sister sent her unsolicited
video of a child being abused in February 2018, wanting the paedophile behind
it hunted down and caught.

The Met police want to dismiss Williams from the force under a
(https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/10/met-officer-in-child-abuse-
video-case-faces-fast-track-dismissal) fast-track procedure
(https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/10/met-officer-in-child-abuse-
video-case-faces-fast-track-dismissal) that could see her within months
sacked from policing after a 36-year career.

Williams’ lawyers have asked for the case to be expedited and are arguing
that the conviction under anti-paedophile laws is unsafe. The first stage is
a court of appeal judge deciding whether the case should be heard.

The Old Bailey jury convicted Williams of having the video on her phone.
Under the law, she had to show she had a lawful reason to have it in her
possession. Williams insisted she never realised the video was there and that
it was not clear, from a still from the video shown in her WhatsApp account,
what it was about.

She insisted that, despite spending a long time with her sister after the
video was sent to her, the video and its contents were never discussed, as
the two sisters enjoyed a spa day. The jury convicted Williams of the charge
by majority verdict.

But the jury unanimously acquitted her of failing for corrupt reasons to
report the video, with the prosecution claiming she failed to do so because
she feared her sister would get in trouble. Seemingly, they accepted that she
was unaware of the video.

Some of Williams’ supporters saw these verdicts as perverse, and some
others as worrying.

The appeal by Williams will say the conviction is unsafe because the jury
appears to have dismissed key evidence. This includes two people who also
received the video who said they could not tell, from the still in WhatsApp,
what its content was.

They also appear, lawyers will argue, to have dismissed an expert who said
there was no evidence that Williams ever played the video. The appeal also
claims that a recording of a phone call between Williams and her sister,
after the sister was arrested, supports the senior police officer’s claim
her sister never mentioned the video to her when they spent time together.

Williams was sentenced to community service and placed on the sex offender
register despite the prosecution accepting she had no sexual interest in
children. She has already started her community service working in a charity
shop.

Williams, one of the most senior female African-Caribbean officers in
Britain, was praised for her work after the Grenfell fire disaster. She was a
founder member of the National Black Police Association, helped to set up a
gay police association, campaigned for more women in policing, and had
received the Queen’s Police (https://www.theguardian.com/uk/police) Medal.

Her sister, Jennifer Hodge, 56, was convicted of distributing an indecent
image of a child. She sent it via WhatsApp to 17 people, including Williams,
who was the only one charged.

Williams has returned to work and is on restricted duties.
Post by Keema's Nan
Official emails and diplomatic telegrams marked as sensitive reveal for the
first time how the British government scrambled to understand a series of
alleged “sonic attacks” on US diplomats who became ill in mysterious
circumstances while on duty in Cuba.
The US government ordered all non-essential staff at its embassy in Havana to
return home after dozens of diplomats and family members developed headaches,
dizziness and problems with balance, concentration and sleeping in a wave of
illness that struck between 2016 and 2018.
Many reported falling ill in their homes or hotels after hearing penetrating
sounds, described variously as grinding, buffeting or cicada-like chirps. The
case reports fuelled speculation that the diplomats had been targeted with an
acoustic weapon or some other novel device. No evidence of any such attack
has been found.
The events prompted a dramatic breakdown in relations between the US and Cuba
less than two years after Barack Obama had sought to reestablish normal
diplomatic ties between the nations.
Documents released to the Guardian under the Freedom of Information Act shed
light on how the British embassy in Havana and senior Foreign Office staff in
London desperately sought to make sense of the unfolding events.
Though most are heavily redacted on grounds of national security and
international relations, they show how staff pored over press reports,
official statements and other communications to understand a situation that
one overnight update from August 2017 said was being presented by the media
as “a bizarre cold war-style confrontation”.
The update, copied to Anthony Stokes, the British ambassador to Cuba, noted
that the press “broadly buy the veracity” of a Cuban statement that
declared it had no involvement in the affair, and were now asking: “If it
wasn’t the Cubans who did it, who did?”
On the same day the update was sent, a brief for Alan Duncan, then minister
of state for Europe and the Americas
(https://www.theguardian.com/world/americas), described the continued
“fallout from the apparent sonic attacks”. In response to the then US
secretary of state, Rex Tillerson, declaring he might close the embassy in
Havana, Cuba’s foreign minister, Bruno Rodriguez, called Tillerson directly
to state he had no knowledge of the source and express his determination to
protect diplomats.
Two months later a diplomatic telegram sent from Havana to London, marked as
sensitive, described the expulsion of nearly all Cuban diplomats from the US
and the withdrawal of roughly two-thirds of US diplomats from Havana.
“Both the US and the Cuban embassies will now be neutered, just two years
after reopening,” the telegram pointed out. The same telegram described
Rodriguez as “combative in tone and delivery” during a press conference
held within hours of the US announcement to expel the Cuban diplomats, and
said he stopped “just short of accusing the US of making it all up”.
Further correspondence between British officials in London and Cuba suggests
they had no fresh insight into what happened to the diplomats. Over a number
of months they shared media reports that the strange sounds were caused by
crickets, and that the wave of illness might be psychosomatic and triggered
by the stressful conditions under which the diplomats operated.
The FCO released the emails and telegrams, spanning from June 2016 to June
2018, after the Information Commissioner’s Office said the department may
be held in contempt of court if it failed to comply with the Guardian’s
request.
Some of the documents were completely blacked out.
More than two years after the diplomats fell ill, doctors are still no
clearer about what happened. Two US medical studies that assessed some of
thse affected found they had concussion-like symptoms
(https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/14/cuban-acoustic-attack-report-
on-us-diplomats-flawed-say-neurologists)and possible brain abnormalities
(https://www.theguardian.com/science/2019/jul/23/brain-scans-of-us-embassy-
staff-to-cuba-show-abnormalities), but independent medical specialists have
criticised both studies. In arecent report
(https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/19007096v1)that has not yet been
peer-reviewed, Canadian scientists suggest excessive fumigation with
pesticides to keep mosquitoes under control may be to blame.
Mitchell Valdés-Sosa, the director of the Cuban Centre for Neurosciences,
who was part of a Cuban investigation into the incidents, said that without
more data it was difficult to draw any firm conclusions.
“But I am very sure what did not happen,” he said. “There is absolutely
no evidence for a mysterious weapon causing a new syndrome characterised by
brain damage and much less inner ear damage.
“Some diplomats may be ill due to natural causes, and we have not yet
tested the idea of insecticides causing intoxication in some cases, but the
results of what has been published tells us that there is no homogenous set
of symptoms or lab findings.
“And whatever has been found overlaps very much with several frequent
medical conditions. The only common factor in most cases is a government
telling employees they were attacked, and a media barrage that has largely
reinforced this idea.”
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